>realizes how meaningless living in luxury is
>wife leaves him due to his toxic attitude and anger issues
>fricks Sosa over
>kills his most trusted man
>all his men die one by one
>is genuinely sad and deeply regrets everything he's done up until that point
>his sister goes crazy and starts shooting at him; later, she gets gunned down in front of him
>he knows he fricked up, and there's nothing he can do anymore
>dies shortly after from a barrage of bullets
Is there a more depressing ending to a movie?
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>NOT LE HECKIN WIFE AND KIDS
The catalyst for all this was so insanely dumb and out of nowhere. Good movie but the finale was so hamfisted and had 'let's get this movie over with' type of feeling.
It’s a play on a Greek tragedy. The “joke” is that his fatal flaw that undoes him is the small bit of humanity that he has left.
you don't understand becouse the concept of honor eludes you. scarfacedude was a shit but he had a code. he never betrayed anyone, and only killed men.
>Oliver Stone
You expected what?
I told you mane no frickin kids but you didnt listen
The first time I watched Scarface, I thought Tony was pretending to understand the Spanish-speaking characters until Tony talked to Alberto in Spanish.
How exactly do you pretend to understand a language?
I'm English so have to do it all the time if I drive 10 miles outside of my home town
It was instead very well telegraphed and foreshadowed since the first half
You're a branlet who wants to see edgy shit and he still paid the price for not wanting to kill the kids and wife of that senator
It's an Icarus story of flying too close to the sun while being a mere mortal
Favorite movie?
avengers end game
The really stupid part is that Tony, a Pablo-tier drug kingpin by that point in the movie, would personally participate in an assassination instead of sending one of his trusted men. He could've sent Manny, Ernie, or that little Bruno Mars looking dude instead.
Tony was still some replaceable peasant no matter how big his operation got
He was bigger than when he started, but he was still a runt in the game.
He shouldn't have went after a white women
>have went
ginger
>got to the top by being a scumbag
>has some empathy and stops children being murdered
>dies for it
kino
Shouldn't have fricked over Frank. That alone made him deserve his fate
at least he didnt have to kill his own kids and doggoes like the nazis did
That's leftists for you.
>doesn’t kill children
Did he ever stop to think about the birth defects his drugs caused?
Not quite but The mist, Alfie, Old boy.
He never got the lemon.
You can trace all Tony's depression and spiraling out of control to the women in his life. Tony should have never married Elvira. He already saw she was a nothing person that Frank was very tired of. But he thought he could turn her into a loving tradwife mother. She was exactly as she appeared: an empty headed, drug addict, with no inclination towards motherhood and no ability to bear children. Tony desperately wanted children and it's the reason he refused to kill kids at the end. Then Tony's sister was the only thing pure and innocent in his life. He wanted to protect her and make he happy, but just by interacting with her it corrupted her. She immediately wanted into the degenerate life even though it would destroy her. She went from shy, calm decent person to coke head, crazy, ungrateful, idiotic screaming banshee in record time. If Tony had found a sweet young woman to marry who was interested in being a mother, and if his sister was way less of a psycho hoe beast, then Tony wouldn't have needed to turn to drugs and alcohol to cope
his wife even calls him Hispanic and other demeaning slurs in front of his right hand man and he doesn't even insult her back
i guess that is the kind of world you get by profiting of other peoples suffering
>But he thought he could turn her into a loving tradwife mother
its insane how many ppl fall for this and it also goes for women trying to change no good men
>Tony desperately wanted children and it's the reason he refused to kill kids at the end.
sad
>Then Tony's sister was the only thing pure and innocent in his life. He wanted to protect her and make he happy, but just by interacting with her it corrupted her. She immediately wanted into the degenerate life even though it would destroy her.
when he realized it was all too late
still at least he wasnt an accomplice to the murder of an entire family
He does insult her back. He calls her a White Piece of Bread. Tony does not have a B Word pass
>He calls her a White Piece of Bread
Brown people insults are so weak
>He does insult her back. He calls her a White Piece of Bread.
just fricking lol how is that even supposed to be framed as an insult? i mean cmon a criminal latino must know at least half a thousand derogatory words and actual swear words he didnt even call her honkey or something lmao
>Tony does not have a B Word pass
lmao
White people also known as honkeys, crackers, Edomites, pigskins, chimpanzees, albino gorillas, albino orangutans, Caucasian apes and inbred mutant albino Black folk,
https://encyclopediadramatica.online/White_Devils
That's the entire point of that scene. Tony was too much on his own dick to even muster a proper comeback.
When Elvira and Tony walk away on him he just stays in the pool watching TV and smoking because living in luxury made him ngaf about anything
B word pass? Is that like a pass to say b***h?
>dies
>didn't play The World is Yours where he made a kino escape from the mansion
The guy who wrote that game also wrote american history x and a few other good movies
The Mist. I've never actually had an ending make my stomach twist in knots, but that one did it
That one annoyed me because it was so contrived. Two seconds later the entire national guard just emerges from the mist along the very same road they just drove up. They must have driven past them to get where they were going. Artificial pathos.
The book's ending was far more ambiguous, they just drove off into the mist.
I would rather have seen the adventure of the lady who left the store to go and rescue her kid, and was seen riding with her kid with the national guard at the end. At least then we'd have some proper monster encounters.
This is such a stupid way to think about movies. There are a million ways this could have played out to have them be physically out of frame a few minutes earlier and get there in time for that scene.
Like I said, artificial pathos. It's a synthetic situation to make you go
>Ironic, isn't it! If only he had hesitated! And turns out the woman who left the grocery store was right to do so!
It's artificial and cheap, even stephen king didn't use such a cheap ending for his story.
The army walked way slower than the car. For the army to catch up immediately after shooting the family and before shooting himself, it means he literally passed them by 10 minutes before. Or else they couldnt have appeared that close.
I could party for a full month or more with that amount of cocaine. I probably wouldn't even sleep. Coke is the only good drug, if you are south american that is. Otherwise you'll probably snort shit
I don't think inhaling byproducts of gasoline, sulphuric acid and cement powder is a good idea. You should just chew on a leaf.
you don't, if it's done right all that stuff gets separated then they cut it with ajax
That shit, as I've said, is only for non south american chads. We snort the oure product
Best movie of all time. Just goes to show how getting high on your own supply is a very bad idea.
Of course not everybody follows the rules, huh?
I didn't find it depressing. b***hface deserved it, and he went down lika a champ.
Manny deserved his fate. He was too stupid. Goes AWOL when Tony left him in charge, no notice, no word, just disappears, then does the one thing Tony asked him not to do: bang his sister. Tony is an unhinged psycho murderer constantly on drugs and drinking too much, you have to know the guy might try to kill you for being such a frick up.
He didn't expect him to straight up kill him right on the spot
If Tony didn't ape out he might have accepted it. Even then in his office he mumbles that he regretted killing Manny over that
>>his sister goes crazy and starts shooting at him; later, she gets gunned down in front of him
Should've went down on him
reddit
this. should've been a good brother and please her sexual needs
Am I being trolled or is this board actually full of incestuous weirdos?
>toxic
He's talking about his attitude to her toxic womb
>handsome
>has a hot accent
>rich
The only reason to leave him was his attitude.
>violent psychopathic scumbag becomes miserable, loses everything, and dies violently as a result of his life of crime
>depressing
>violently
His death wasn't violent at all. He was too high to feel any pain.
EXTREMELY esl
I TOLD YOU MANG
having the top of your spine blown out through your chest isnt violent, chudsters.
>Download the movie cuz of this thread
>First scene I notice he has a scar on his face
>Mfw I just realized why its called 'Scarface'
PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT
WALK ALONG THE RAZOR'S EDGE
The dangers of eating pineapple
Rush rush to the yayo, anon!
The guys who want it all, chicas, champagne, flash. They don't last.
No wonder Feech la Manna had a problem with Tony. He used to be a king before he went to jail
Didn't realize how many other things he was in
god you get so many great shots of her armpits in this movie, sadly i was to lazy to take screenshots
OH MY
GOD
LOOK
IT'S ROBBERT LOGGIA
>That's Robert Loggia. "R" as in Robert Loggia, "O" as in "Oh, my God,
>it's Robert Loggia," "B" as in "By God, that's Robert Loggia,"
>"E" as in everybody loves Robert Loggia,
> "R" as in Robert Loggia,
>"T" as in "Tim, look over there, it's Robert Loggia,
>" space, "L" as in "Look, it's Robert Loggia... "
I thought that was Lee Van Cleef
Michael Corleone’s downfall is even more slow and depressing.
Who betrayed who first, Tony or Frank?
Tony betrayed Frank. Rather than be grateful, he was immediately scheming how to take over Frank's business and plotting to steal his wife.
Tony started fricking Frank over the night he met him, but Frank was a piece of shit too.
Tony obviously, but Frank was a piece of shit too. They were both ready to backstab each others and there were dirty cops and informants into the mix as well...
It's honestly amazing how fragile and on the brink of arrest Frank's little operation was
It's surprising how long they kept their police connections hidden from Tony. He didn't suspect even after Omar got killed for it
What I don't like is that it's left "ambiguous" that Omar was an informant
Frank justifies himself by saying that Sosa was just manipulating Tony and that there was no way his right-hand man was an informant, but logically there was no reason for Sosa to kill Omar out of nowhere, and he received that information mid-conversation with him
the way it plays out there's no way it was some trick for Tony
To me, Frank's friendship with Mel and setting him on Tony to force Tony to be an informant confirms that Omar and Frank were indeed stoolies
>>he knows he fricked up, and there's nothing he can do anymore
tbf he ultimately did do the right thing
Sosa's empire was over with, he just wanted revenge
>revenge
Then why didn't he order them to give Tony a slow death? Tony dies thinking he defeated Sosa's men.
>give Tony a slow death
doesn't seem Sosa's style, even salieri didn't have that; just De Palma's creative choice
Thematically it was to demonstrate that Sosa thought he could manipulate Tony's stupidity for his own gain, but that he couldn't manipulate Tony's humanity, and it fricked him over
he's sweating bullets on the phone saying, "You FRICKED me Tony" so I don't think he sees a way out for himself either
Scarface is a throwback to the gangster movies of the 1930s, and gangster movies always ended the same way, with the gangster's sins catching up with him and he gets gunned down.
>fricks Sosa over
well it was either that or kill the kids, so it was a happy ending minus the sister thing
The actress playing the girl Manny talks to came home to her mother after a few days of filming and said she was afraid someone was going to kill her. Days later she disappeared and was never seen again.
Who was she?
Tammy Lynn Leppert. She was an aspiring actress and model
>forget all of OP's greentext
He actually eats the lemon
the funny thing is that that is the reason sosa didnt kill him alongside omar
sosa realized tony wasnt close with omar
He wanted to frick his sister
So do I
>Black folk still don't get that it is a remake of an old goofy noir
It's supposed to be goofy. Pacino saw the original Scarface and said "I WANT TO STAR IN A REMAKE!" It has to end in a bombastic "Crime Doesn't Pay" ending.
it is goofy in a good way
>It has to end in a bombastic "Crime Doesn't Pay" ending.
btw what do you think is the percentage of drug dealers, hitmen racketeers and pimps that make it to 40? in the u.s.
i dont mean someone that does all those things
i mean someone who only does one of those crimes and makes it to 40