The real bad guys aren't even white. The white king was slain by mutts he invited to his military and close personal circle. Every general shown other than Noble are some sort of Latino.
The theme the movie is going for, and this will become more apparent in the director's cut, is that expansionism and multiculturalism is a mixed bag because it dilutes the culture and identity of people, creating resentment and strife. The old king was slain by people from off-world that he tried to assimilate and befriend, Kora finds peace in a monocultural village where life is simple and its people have a strong connection to its land, several of the characters are people that lost their home and culture and are aimless.
The movie is a lot more red-pilled than this thread gives it credit. It is about the evil of multiculturalism/colonialism.
In the movie the old rightful king, played by Cary Elwes (The Princess Bride) is betrayed and killed by his close confident, a mutt from off world named Balisarius, played by Fra Fee (Les Misérables), who's then appointed as Regent of the Imperium.
The prophesied princess Issa mentioned in the trailers is also killed by Balisarius' people, aka Kora, played Sofia Boutella (Atomic Blond), who was groomed by Balisarius as a unfeeling soldier.
Kora then regrets her actions, because Balisarius as Regent of the Imperium turns the Imperium into a worse colonial power raising entire planets just for their resources. The culture and art also becomes neglect. The Imperium becomes mutt paradise.
So Kora escapes and goes to live in a secluded planet that is basically Norway. A monocultural farming planet where she can live a peaceful life.
>Regent Balisarius is far more vicious than the Slain King was. According to Zack Snyder, "the regent Balsarius, he's much more like a dictator. Like, as [Joseph] Stalin was. He'd be happy to raze a planet just for its natural resources rather than like 'oh, we should like land and see what the people are like and maybe some of them can fight for us' and you know like 'maybe we could assimilate their culture into ours' where it was a much more sort of you know 18th-century imperialism, with old king being based on the Nicholas II who was the last Tsar of the Russian Empire, where now the modern Imperium is much more aggressive than -- that was aggressive, and now it's worse."
I agree, synders proto-fascistic filmmaking has reached a fever pitch with the increase in budget.
this perpetuation of the rural nobility myth in how he portrayed the racially homogenous nordic (note the longhouse reference, which is an alt right dogwhistle) inspired farmers of veldt who live in a patriarchal society where woman like the main character are pressured to aschew casual sex in favor of marriage and literally pubically pressured into sex
This is unforgivable that these are meant to be the protagonist
while snyder does assemble a main cast thats on its face diverse, when we look closer we find its rife with harmful stereotypes, like the native american coded prince who has a magical bond with animals like the noble savage myth of old, or the mysterious asian swordswoman whos from, yep, a cyberpunk world with all the orientalist baggage that comes from, or the incredibly shallowed defined general whos meant to stereotype the nubian slaves used in roman arenas
Lets not forget the only lgbt representation is a a literal pig faced rapist
Drag queens are not necessarily LGBTQIA+ people, many are straight and only do it for entertainment though...
4 months ago
Anonymous
And the non binary rebel who takes over after the black guy defeats the spaceship by killing one gunner?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I really could have lived without dragging gender freaks into the film.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>And the non binary rebel who takes over after the black guy
This one? Is it ever stated in the film that she is non binary and not just a woman with a buzz cut?
4 months ago
Anonymous
The actress is non-binary, so Snyder let the character be non-binary. But in the director's cut they show she was a very feminine girl before being captured by the Imperium.
4 months ago
Anonymous
ah okay, totally spotted the non binary chick.. NOT
How does one do it?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>The actress is non-binary
Doesn't mean a thing, Emma d'Arcy is also non-binary, yet she plays the adult Rhaenyra in HOTD, who is clearly a female character.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Tell me about her. Why does she wear the mask?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>many drag queens are straight
4 months ago
Anonymous
This. There are lots of people who've had sex with men who aren't gay (like you)
But aren't the troons at the seedy bar meant to be looked at with disgust. Everything in that bar is shown as gross, dangerous, and degenerate. This in contrast to the farming village where everyone is kind, supportive, and there's a clear pro- you need to find a husband/wife and plow your seeds message.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Now this is cope
4 months ago
Anonymous
No, it isn't.
The Providence bar is a brothel. It is a dangerous place full of strange aliens, gay people, and cutthroat scum.
This in contrast to the idyllic village where everyone is human, white, and kind.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>1
Because it was thematic.
They needed to show the farmers as good old-fashioned people that live by the land and have a healthy relationship with each other and sex.
Whereas the soldiers are all degenerates that live in decayed spaceships and only know how to exploit and abuse people. They see sex as nothing but an excuse to exert their power and take.
It is more thematic than anything else. Snyder usually isn't that concerned about showing realistic moments and stuffs. So the rape was absolutely essential.
Because the entire movie is about the connection to nature. You've numerous visual and dialogue references to fields, seeds, and plowing. Comparisons about a good harvest meaning the the birth of children. The need for couples, intimacy, and sex for the health of a community.
Then in comparison you've the Imperium, with its degenerate genderless soldiers that connect themselves to a decayed technology, and only know how to conquer and blunder in their ever-growing hunt for resources. The first scene is literally a phalic space ship ripping the space's vegana. So that's why when they land in the idyllic village, they not only are going for the village's grains, but also attempt to rape one of its citizens.
Are you getting the contrast and theming here?
The movie is a lot more red-pilled than this thread gives it credit. It is about the evil of multiculturalism/colonialism.
In the movie the old rightful king, played by Cary Elwes (The Princess Bride) is betrayed and killed by his close confident, a mutt from off world named Balisarius, played by Fra Fee (Les Misérables), who's then appointed as Regent of the Imperium.
The prophesied princess Issa mentioned in the trailers is also killed by Balisarius' people, aka Kora, played Sofia Boutella (Atomic Blond), who was groomed by Balisarius as a unfeeling soldier.
Kora then regrets her actions, because Balisarius as Regent of the Imperium turns the Imperium into a worse colonial power raising entire planets just for their resources. The culture and art also becomes neglect. The Imperium becomes mutt paradise.
So Kora escapes and goes to live in a secluded planet that is basically Norway. A monocultural farming planet where she can live a peaceful life.
>Regent Balisarius is far more vicious than the Slain King was. According to Zack Snyder, "the regent Balsarius, he's much more like a dictator. Like, as [Joseph] Stalin was. He'd be happy to raze a planet just for its natural resources rather than like 'oh, we should like land and see what the people are like and maybe some of them can fight for us' and you know like 'maybe we could assimilate their culture into ours' where it was a much more sort of you know 18th-century imperialism, with old king being based on the Nicholas II who was the last Tsar of the Russian Empire, where now the modern Imperium is much more aggressive than -- that was aggressive, and now it's worse."
The real bad guys aren't even white. The white king was slain by mutts he invited to his military and close personal circle. Every general shown other than Noble are some sort of Latino.
The theme the movie is going for, and this will become more apparent in the director's cut, is that expansionism and multiculturalism is a mixed bag because it dilutes the culture and identity of people, creating resentment and strife. The old king was slain by people from off-world that he tried to assimilate and befriend, Kora finds peace in a monocultural village where life is simple and its people have a strong connection to its land, several of the characters are people that lost their home and culture and are aimless.
Shill alert
4 months ago
Anonymous
>look guys it's secretly le redpilled and le based please waste your time watching this sirs please redeem
4 months ago
Anonymous
Cope? How is it unrealistic for a degenerate society to have degenerates? It's like b***hing about trannies in cyberpunk. Of course a dystopian rogues gallery is going to have sexual deviants. Sometimes I think you people are disingenuous posting shit takes and are the same people who turn around and say "look what /misc/ is saying."
Cinematography in that scene is really bad. Rule of 3s would have made it look so much better
And I noticed there were lights burning into my eyes in so many scenes. Save a thought for some of us watching this on dissos
>dabs on gays by portraying them as ugly and aggressive rapists >dabs on troons by showing that they do not pass >makes the actor pose as a swastika with the sun in the background while the character tries to catch the bird, which resembles a Third Reich/NSDAP eagle
What did Sneeder mean by that?
>The prophesied princess Issa mentioned in the trailers is also killed by Balisarius' people, aka Kora, played Sofia Boutella
Yeah, clearly the twist isn't going to be that her "betrayal" was actually faking the princess' death and hiding her on that backwater farming planer, where her true nature is clearly visible to the badass loyalist robot
The movie is a lot more red-pilled than this thread gives it credit. It is about the evil of multiculturalism/colonialism.
In the movie the old rightful king, played by Cary Elwes (The Princess Bride) is betrayed and killed by his close confident, a mutt from off world named Balisarius, played by Fra Fee (Les Misérables), who's then appointed as Regent of the Imperium.
The prophesied princess Issa mentioned in the trailers is also killed by Balisarius' people, aka Kora, played Sofia Boutella (Atomic Blond), who was groomed by Balisarius as a unfeeling soldier.
Kora then regrets her actions, because Balisarius as Regent of the Imperium turns the Imperium into a worse colonial power raising entire planets just for their resources. The culture and art also becomes neglect. The Imperium becomes mutt paradise.
So Kora escapes and goes to live in a secluded planet that is basically Norway. A monocultural farming planet where she can live a peaceful life.
>Regent Balisarius is far more vicious than the Slain King was. According to Zack Snyder, "the regent Balsarius, he's much more like a dictator. Like, as [Joseph] Stalin was. He'd be happy to raze a planet just for its natural resources rather than like 'oh, we should like land and see what the people are like and maybe some of them can fight for us' and you know like 'maybe we could assimilate their culture into ours' where it was a much more sort of you know 18th-century imperialism, with old king being based on the Nicholas II who was the last Tsar of the Russian Empire, where now the modern Imperium is much more aggressive than -- that was aggressive, and now it's worse."
I agree, synders proto-fascistic filmmaking has reached a fever pitch with the increase in budget.
this perpetuation of the rural nobility myth in how he portrayed the racially homogenous nordic (note the longhouse reference, which is an alt right dogwhistle) inspired farmers of veldt who live in a patriarchal society where woman like the main character are pressured to aschew casual sex in favor of marriage and literally pubically pressured into sex
This is unforgivable that these are meant to be the protagonist
while snyder does assemble a main cast thats on its face diverse, when we look closer we find its rife with harmful stereotypes, like the native american coded prince who has a magical bond with animals like the noble savage myth of old, or the mysterious asian swordswoman whos from, yep, a cyberpunk world with all the orientalist baggage that comes from, or the incredibly shallowed defined general whos meant to stereotype the nubian slaves used in roman arenas
Lets not forget the only lgbt representation is a a literal pig faced rapist
So frick this hack filmmmaker and his chud fans
Because the entire movie is about the connection to nature. You've numerous visual and dialogue references to fields, seeds, and plowing. Comparisons about a good harvest meaning the the birth of children. The need for couples, intimacy, and sex for the health of a community.
Then in comparison you've the Imperium, with its degenerate genderless soldiers that connect themselves to a decayed technology, and only know how to conquer and blunder in their ever-growing hunt for resources. The first scene is literally a phalic space ship ripping the space's vegana. So that's why when they land in the idyllic village, they not only are going for the village's grains, but also attempt to rape one of its citizens.
Are you getting the contrast and theming here?
Oh great, the cope paragraphs are here. They were a fun read to see how morons cope with Snyder's hack shit back in the BvS days but I think I'll skip these.
It is not even polcope. Just things that stood out for me.
Here, i can try to frame it another way.
The movie is about nature, okay? The closer we are, as the farmers, the better. The further away, like the Imperium, the worse? It is a brutalism vs communion thing.
No talks about colonialism.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Zack Snyder has been beating that dead horse since MoS.
The kryptonians that treat science like religion and are all sexless automatons bad.
Humans or kryptonians that keep the old way, are married, make children, and have sex good.
Snyder for some odd reason is really hung up about old family unit and the need to have children.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>The movie is about nature, okay? The closer we are, as the farmers, the better. The further away, like the Imperium, the worse? It is a brutalism vs communion thing.
Did Snyder draw inspiration from Pentti Linkola, Ted Kaczynski, and other deep ecologists/ecofascists?
4 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know, but this has been happening so much in his movies that i feel he is probably into that shit.
In Man of Steel Krypton is doomed, not because the planet was going to blow up like in every other version but because the society had degenerated into a techno-nightmare where everyone is some sort of sexless clone, everyone follow directives the moment they're born, and they all see treat science as a dogma.
The good Kryptonians, meanwhile are aware that their society is doomed in every way and have decided to go back to monkey by having sex and having a child the old natural way, which is seen as sacrilege by others.
John and Marta, Superman adoptive parents, are super close to one another.
Superman and Lois, are so into each other they can sense when the other is in danger and are there the moment it happens, because their need to each other is that great, and this is what helps them save the day.
Meanwhile the other kryptonians that are all sexless work individually and are all killed because of it.
This is hammered again and again in the sequels where Martha or Lois are made to symbolically represent the entire world in their man's life, to the point Superman might lose his shit and become evil if Lois die.
Here you've the same points the visual motif of the village, the farming, the plowing of seeds, the festival with the orgy, the old man pressuring Kora to take a permanent lover to finally be accepted in the village as one of them, and so on.
Meanwhile the soldiers of Imperium or other aliens are all degenerates, all live in high-tech/low-life environments, are all part cybernetics, and all they try is exploit others. You constantly have the contract of the farming planet as an idyllic place and the Imperium as a decayed society. The Jimmy robot literally goes to wander in the wild and try and become one with nature in his attempt to find his own identity, whereas as before he was a tool used as nothing but a glorified fooklift.
4 months ago
Anonymous
What a profoundly gay thing of you to say, Anon.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Why?
4 months ago
Anonymous
I was searching for interviews to see if i wasn't looking too much into the movie and just seeing what isn't there, but i found an interview where someone related to the movie production unironically talk some points that fit with my reading of the movie.
>According to Dechant, the film “is a battle between brutality and harmony.” As Admiral Noble ominously traverses the galaxy, he brings destruction to civilizations and entire worlds. Veldt contrasts the nihilism of the Imperium with its kindness and integration with nature. It’s a “place worth fighting for,” >Dechant explained: “The aesthetic that we’ve been working with is brutality versus harmony. And we have this, the Imperium, it’s trying to clamp down on these systems with all the force of their power. And then we have our heroes, which we start our story out in Veldt, which is this is very retro-futuristic, yet harmonious village that's on the moon orbiting a gas giant. And that kind of sets up the aesthetic that kind of takes us through the world-building that we're doing….”
4 months ago
Anonymous
that's just big words to say "hippies good, imperialism bad" which any moron can see
4 months ago
Anonymous
They aren't hippies, though. Hippies were degenerate and didn't put actual work. They're meant to represent a Nordic village.
4 months ago
Anonymous
So it's kinda like Tolkien's Shire=GOOD because it's a rural and simple community, Isengard and Mordor (and Morgoth's kingdom before them)=BAD because they're destructive industrial powers that want to control and corrupt nature and its resources, and most elven, dwarven, and human kingdoms are somewhere in the middle because they take more from nature than they should, but they still don't exploit it to the limit like Sauron and Saruman do?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, though Zack Snyder have the weird thing about the need for a man to settle down with a woman and have a child, because apparently the only thing stopping society from dooming itself is the old family unit like a 50's propaganda movie.
Here you've the same points made by MoS, where Imperium distort and exploit sexual/romantic relationships as another instrument of war, with the Imperium soldiers all dressing the same and being genderless - see Kora as a soldier with a man's hairstyle and wearing a male soldiers uniform, and Kora in the village with her grown hair and wearing a dress. They're also all sort of like cyborgs, with Admiral Noble having a plate skull and engaging in drugs and weird sex again with Admiral Noble fricking an alien creature made of tentacles. Not to mention the Imperium soldiers wanting to rape the village girl because sex for them is just another excuse for them to exercise their power and abuse others.
In contrast the farming village is all about couples, and making children, and farming, and harvesting, and everyone's opinion mattering. Kora is pressured to get a husband so she can finally be accepted as one of them, otherwise she will remain forever an outsider. Kora, again, is finally able to be feminine with her sporting long hair and going to the festival in a dress. Then you've Gunnar, who is in love with Kora, and saves everyone in the end.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Forgot to mention the robot's "arc" with him fricking off and later being shown with an antler's horn, signifying him becoming one with nature.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Zack Snyder's a scientist Christian, which is a weird American cult based on ideas about Catholicism. That's where the weird ideas about family unit in his movies come from;
4 months ago
Anonymous
Based. To me the clearest visual raprasentation of this nature vs machine thematrics was when the rebel tribal african guy (WITH DREADS NO LESS) sprinted against a giant metal battleship and chucked it down with a STICK.
A FRICKING STICK.
This hulking giant metal behemoth built for space tech warfare was brought down by some guy with a STICK. I could not believe how mind numbing this scene was but holy sweet mother Gaia was it symbolically deep and meaningfuel.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, that was intentional despite it is also just a cool action scenes. The type Snyder likes.
But i also think that the heroes all being somewhat tech-less people with no chance in hell of winning going against this huge high-tech empire full of soldiers and spaceships is also intentional. One of the film's score is titled "A Good Place to Die".
Honestly, i think they might all die in part 2. Specially if Snyder decide to follow Seven Samurai to a T. He already pulled that shit with Army of the Dead.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Mind numbing is not a compliment
4 months ago
Anonymous
Filtered.. simply filtered
4 months ago
Anonymous
To me this meant that Snyder prefers sticcs over thiccs. The fact that the ship was a chunky boi was intentional
It's not the worst thing in the world, but it's VERY clearly a rejected Star Wars script that he just changed some of he names for and sold to a different company
Honestly this is a good sign. Star Wars has had a stranglehold on this sort of sci-fi/space opera shit for too long. George Lucas doesn't own spaceships and space ninjas. It's a travesty that he even has a monopoly on laser swords. The mother fricker didn't even design 90% of the iconic shit in Star Wars.
Directors rarely design anything, they exercise their aesthetic sensibilities on what their artists bring to the table. He absolutely was crucial in bringing together the look of those designs. Proof is in the pudding with Disneywars being aesthetically bankrupt.
Reminder that this movie is actually about Islam and the honorable fight that our brothers from Hamas are striking against the great Serpent that is Israel.
There is an Islamic belief that Isa (Jesus Christ peace be upon him) breathed into a clay bird and with God's permission gave life to the bird. In Rebel Moon a character called Princess Issa is seen giving life to a dead bird. Reference or coincidence?
It's as generic as it gets. Literally. It is basically the result of an extremely lazy ChatGPT prompt. That means it's not the worst thing ever, but still makes it extremely boring. Pretty much every scene feels like you have watched it before somewhere else and most of them feel like the worse version.
Even if this isn't an AI generated script it sure feels like it. This has to be one of the most basic and generic scripts ever written and just stinks of the superficial mashing of generic themes and ideas that AI produces so well. Not that humans can't do that without AI help.
I wanted to like it. I wanted a new universe to explore, that would be a setting for richer stories to come. Unfortunately it just felt trite and shallow. It also felt like half the movie was missing, which I guess it is. I was hoping for a full story, and that the promised "director's cut" would simply get into the geeky details and rabbit holes that might have bogged down the "theatrical cut." Instead, it felt like they took a 3+ hour movie with a lot of self-indulgent cinematic slow-motion and chopped out all the character interaction that would have made it feel like more of a lived in universe. I don't know, I still want to have hope for it as a franchise and nerd-friendly universe, but I fear it's just all flash and zero depth. I don't see other talented creators wanting to contribute to this universe either, which means the "EU" will likely consist of a handful of pozzed comics and novels, and not much else.
There's not a single damn element of this film that won't be better remembered when it was done in other movies.
The OT cribbed a lot of elements from old movies and made them iconic to Star Wars, but this forgettable pile of try-hard has nothing in it worth being nostalgic for in years hence.
Because the entire movie is about the connection to nature. You've numerous visual and dialogue references to fields, seeds, and plowing. Comparisons about a good harvest meaning the the birth of children. The need for couples, intimacy, and sex for the health of a community.
Then in comparison you've the Imperium, with its degenerate genderless soldiers that connect themselves to a decayed technology, and only know how to conquer and blunder in their ever-growing hunt for resources. The first scene is literally a phalic space ship ripping the space's vegana. So that's why when they land in the idyllic village, they not only are going for the village's grains, but also attempt to rape one of its citizens.
>1
Because it was thematic.
They needed to show the farmers as good old-fashioned people that live by the land and have a healthy relationship with each other and sex.
Whereas the soldiers are all degenerates that live in decayed spaceships and only know how to exploit and abuse people. They see sex as nothing but an excuse to exert their power and take.
It is more thematic than anything else. Snyder usually isn't that concerned about showing realistic moments and stuffs. So the rape was absolutely essential.
Because Snyder has a rape fetish and inserts it into everything, he also believes sexual violence to be a "mature and grown-up" subject and if you put it in your film it makes it more mature and grown-up.
Even the butchered/made for tv/abridged for little kiddies version is a solid 7/10. That patented Snyder earnestness doesn’t always hit the mark, but rarely misses too. The Sneeder cut will likely slap.
The movie knows it is so bland in the scene where the heroes get captured two (2) characters have to give you a literal explanation of who everyone is in case you forgot (which you probably did).
I will say this about my expectations. My expectations were low because i knew Netflix fricked around with it and made it pg13. This is a fatal error in my view. Star wars and this Rebel Moon are based on the same adult comics from the 70s and 80s. The old star wars is fun but it's also for kids. This really should have been an adult space opera. Because star wars left so much on the table what made those comics iconic in the first place. Because this is also pg13 it just operates in the same sphere as a worse version of star wars. Which is why my hype for this film died pretty quickly.
I did actually watch it however and i fully expected it to turn it off at some point during the movie. As it happens i finished and quite enjoyed it for its sci fi elements and the world building story. The actual story of the protagonist is incredibly bare bones and outright bad. Which given the former is quite a shame. Given my very low expectations and relative enjoyment at the end. I give it a 6/10. It's a shame it's a pg 13 flick.
Oh and I suspect the zack is secretly red pilled. All the sane people are white and all the aliens and super special main characters are not and taken to a bizarre extreme. Like he is mocking them and the idea of it.
I'm a different person to the anon you are nerd raging at and I'm not saying red pilled is a good or bad thing. Just that zack seems to be mocking wokery
Oh and I suspect the zack is secretly red pilled. All the sane people are white and all the aliens and super special main characters are not and taken to a bizarre extreme. Like he is mocking them and the idea of it.
I think my favorite scene of the whole movie is when the main character has to be established as someone who has forgotten how to love and what the concept of family is so she can have an arc
This is done by her literally stating straight to the camera that she is a child of war that had the concepts of love and family beaten out of her.
Lmao.
Yeah it's totally about them having a conversation. It has absolutely nothing to do with the terrible script being incapable of establishing its main character's traits by showing them instead of spelling them out loud.
Holy shit anon, are you completely moronic or is this your first movie?
Seven Samurai in space.
Suffers from the same shit all Snyder movies suffer from. He has no idea how to write or build characters or the relationships between them to make any specific moment impactful. He doesn't foreshadow anything, his movies are so consistently just edited together shots of this happened and then this happened,,, BUT IT LOOKS COOL. A lot of shit like always looks really cool. Nice aesthetic, awesome props super decent costuming. Slow motion, you like slow motion action scenes rights, of course you do, we all like slow motion in action scenes. But beyond that it's nothing. But also I'm an butthole because I'm judgeing Snyder on this movie and not the 5 hour directors cut coming out in a few months or because I think every part of something you release should be good and I'm not waiting till part two that will totally explain everything in a satisfying way.
It's very Bollywood tier. Everyone just shows up, poses, say whatever is on their mind (just exposition), everyone is posturing in a cringy way all the time, all show and zero depth, total lack of class and refinment, everything just face value "cool" as if written by a child
because it looks cool you fricking dimwit
lmao this homie is over here expecting some nerd with a calculator calculating the physics of how to build a fake space ship
>hey Zack since I pissed away my career for you you’re totally gonna make me a main character in your next franchise, right? >oh yeah Ray don’t worry buddy I’ll take care of you >dies in first movie
Best part of the movie
I guess if Snyder were directing Star Wars Episode IV, he would have Luke threatened with rape by the spider-like creature and the disfigured man who, in Lucas' version, told Luke that they don't like him.
Holy shit, Star Wars did this scene in like 3 lines/20 seconds max and we got the first lightsaber limb amputation in cinema history into the bargain.
This just goes on forever and we all know where it's going anyway. And the alien wasn't even interesting and Apple Cora didn't do anything actually surprising. When Ben nails butt-mouth and Dr israelite it's a total wow moment. Yeah, we'd seen 100 cowboy movies with the quick-draw six-shooter take down in a bar, but nothing like that. And again, it was one and done in 20 seconds and we were moving the frick along immediately.
Remember the "Star Wars was saved in the edit" meme? This is what that means. But now even TV Star Wars is full of these deathly slow, awkward, uninteresting trope-ish scenes unfolding at a snail's pace with no spark in them.
"Like Star Wars, but terrible!"
"Like Star Wars, but with all things still in it that when removed by talented editors saved Star Wars from failure!"
Extreme lame movie, made by Snyder and paid by israeliteflix.
- Another fricking evil space empire (and now they look like space-nazi because its 2023).
- Evil white dudes vs stronk woman + diverse farteched cast of ultra lame fighters.
- Not a single memorable character, with good character design. Its all shit, cant even sell toys.
- Edgy scenes with no substance: le ripped indian riding a flying beast, le swordwoman fighting spider, le general looks like a beat up drunked hobo...
- moronic onions takes: the male farmer who cant even drink a space drink, a homosexual alien, a villain with tentacle obsession, non binary dyke screaming....
Seriously... it was totally shit. Snyder is a fricking joke. With some effort, couls have been kino, but we all know its impossible, specially nowaday.
>Evil white dudes vs stronk woman + diverse farteched cast of ultra lame fighters
But in the end, it was the GOOD white dude who saved the strong woman and the diverse group of fighters, without him they'd be totally fricked.
please stop bankrolling Zack Snyder, he is a midwit psseudointellectual who neer matured beyond the brooding edgy teenager phase of emotional deveopment.
I actually think that a series would have been better at least that way the heroes would have gotten more than their 15 min intro and the info dump from the bad guy. How can you ruin such a simple concept by having none of the main group interact with each other.
This was my issue. They were literally just walking archetypes that might as well have been made of wax after their intros. I got no sense of their personalities, and definitely no bonding between them. Just nothing. They stood around and that's it.
How did civilizations in this universe become interplanetary without industrial scale agriculture? The premise of this movie is absurd. Snyder wanted to copy and paste Seven Samurai so bad that he didn't really think of anything else.
Look, i am trying to not go all /misc/, but according to Zack Snyder himself Imperium decayed after the old white king was slain by Balisarius, who's an off-worlder, and as you can see here
>MC was supposed to be played by BIPOC or multiracial female >Snyder casts white woman
Why?
, the casting call specifically asked for a Latino actor, although i don't think the actor they cast, Fa Free, is actually Latino.
The movie has this weird bent against colonialism/multiculturalism. The main heroes are all people that suffered under the Imperium expansion efforts. Their home planet were conquered, they were taken from their home to go live on the Imperium's home world, they were stripped from their home culture and identity to be conscripted as soldiers of the Imperium. Everyone's under Imperium's rule, but also everyone hates Imperium. Imperium is a multicultural society in war with itself.
In contrast the farming planet of Veidt is a clearly Nordic influenced monocultural society where even Kora as seen as a outsider, but it is still a place worth fighting and dying for to the point all these characters decide to join up what seems a losing fight. In the trailers you can see that each character came from a planet that was also monocultural inspired by the actors on birthplace. Sofia's character came from planet Algeria, Dijimon's character came from planet Nigeria, and so on.
But what actually makes this point so much overt is the old royal family, that were all white, being slain by a latino General, and then the old empire decaying and becoming worse under the Latino general rule.
Here's the Snyders talking about how the Imperium decayed after the royal family assassination.
>Regent Balisarius is far more vicious than the Slain King was. According to Zack Snyder, "the regent Balsarius, he's much more like a dictator. Like, as [Joseph] Stalin was. He'd be happy to raze a planet just for its natural resources rather than like 'oh, we should like land and see what the people are like and maybe some of them can fight for us' and you know like 'maybe we could assimilate their culture into ours' where it was a much more sort of you know 18th-century imperialism, with old king being based on the Nicholas II who was the last Tsar of the Russian Empire, where now the modern Imperium is much more aggressive than -- that was aggressive, and now it's worse."
>Under the more dictatorial leadership of Balisarius, the Imperium also begins to decay culturally. While there was an appreciate for art and culture, shown in impressive stained glass windows and towering architecture, the Imperium begins to decay into a more utilitarian focus and a more brutalist aesthetic. According to Producer Deborah Snyder, "there's the notion that after the royal family's death, everything became, there wasn't any need for formality, or they didn't try and advance, they just, they were war machines. So everything was very practical. And they let, you'll even see with the costumes, the way they looked and then the way they currently look, it's like they still have all the detail, but it's just not taken care of like it was when the king was alive. All of that kind of gets lost, that appreciation of the art of everything. "
Look, i am trying to not go all /misc/, but according to Zack Snyder himself Imperium decayed after the old white king was slain by Balisarius, who's an off-worlder, and as you can see here [...], the casting call specifically asked for a Latino actor, although i don't think the actor they cast, Fa Free, is actually Latino.
The movie has this weird bent against colonialism/multiculturalism. The main heroes are all people that suffered under the Imperium expansion efforts. Their home planet were conquered, they were taken from their home to go live on the Imperium's home world, they were stripped from their home culture and identity to be conscripted as soldiers of the Imperium. Everyone's under Imperium's rule, but also everyone hates Imperium. Imperium is a multicultural society in war with itself.
In contrast the farming planet of Veidt is a clearly Nordic influenced monocultural society where even Kora as seen as a outsider, but it is still a place worth fighting and dying for to the point all these characters decide to join up what seems a losing fight. In the trailers you can see that each character came from a planet that was also monocultural inspired by the actors on birthplace. Sofia's character came from planet Algeria, Dijimon's character came from planet Nigeria, and so on.
But what actually makes this point so much overt is the old royal family, that were all white, being slain by a latino General, and then the old empire decaying and becoming worse under the Latino general rule.
The old royal family despite being a colonial power were looking into incorporating the culture and lifestyle of the planets they conquered into their society, they also welcomed off-worlders in their close circle as one of their own, and spelled their doom. Balisarius got in and betrayed their trust, usurped power. Kora was his right hand in all of this.
>main character is named Arthelais >look it up >is Catholic Saint >patron saint of kidnapping and people forced into exiles
Kora didn't kill the princess, the village girl IS the princess. That's the twist.
it's shit
the dialogue and acting are wooden and unnatural
the plot is dumb, the characters are all superficial
every scene feels like it was stolen from something else and pasted together
the fact that this board likes it just goes to show how moronic and contrarian it is
>have interstellar wormhole tech >sentient robots >all manner of spaceships >convoluted virtual reality communication >any number of inhabited planets >random antigravity pillars on that one planet with the stupid alien king >etc...
BUT, the evil bad guys have to harass farmers for crops to feed billions of soldiers, so I can have le innocent farmers in my space movie.
C'mon, anon.
The bad guys came to the village because they're hunting the Bloodaxe rebels and knew that the village was selling their grains to the rebels. This is something that Admiral Noble says, as soon as he lands on the village. That he is hunting the rebels and if the villagers know of any information about them.:
Next we see the rebels' contact with the village, being dragged by bounty hunters. This a day after the bad guys landed on the village.
The bad guys knew the village was feeding the enemy, and decided to teach them a lesson.
I liked it. Snyder reminds me of Lars Von Trier. You never really enjoy their films, but there's something there worth watching. They both seem to have autism, in that they both have a mastery of film technique and have an undeniable style, but they also feel alien and soulless. Noticing their skill vs their inability to connect is always interesting.
Sofia Boutella makes my weener get big, but otherwise it's not a very good movie. There have been much worse movies, but this one just kind of sucks. Would have been better as a series where each episode they pick up a new crew member and learn their backstory. Maybe 8 30-40 minute episodes. That way I give a shit about at least one of them.
just finished it
absolute garbage
its like a synopsis of a film, like someone else watched a movie and theyre telling you what happened in it but they miss all the guts of it and just gloss over what generally happened
>Rome >Nazis >Magic >Star Wars >“I’m putting together a team”
Hack Snyder can’t write for shit. It seems like he is trying to milk a plot out of a bunch of themes and it just doesn’t work
Snyder literally recreated A New Hope with the numbers filed off and then was surprised that Disney rejected it as they have already done it with JJ Abrams. It's so unbelievably shit, makes you wonder if this is his love project and his own setting then Zack Znyder might actually be mentally moronic. I came up with better Star Wars scenarios when I was 12.
I think people are so used to hating everything that they can't step back and actually enjoy something. Rebel Moon might be the definition of "derivative" but it goes so hard into being derivative that I found it hilarious to point out all the shit it was pulling from >star wars >40k >Firefly >gladiator >john carter >turok the dinosaur hunter >dune >avatar >unforgiven >300
I could keep going.
I wasn't expecting this christmas season to even get an enjoyable movie. Maybe the bar is set really low but it was kind of a breath of fresh air.
I'll forgive Rebel Moon for being a ridiculous derivative mess, I enjoyed it.
Ever heard of something being not greater than the some of its parts? Turok and 40k deserve movies and this trash is potentially ruining their chances. Dune Part 1, Unforgiven, 300, and the OG Star Wars Trilogy are all better movies. Avatar and Firefly don't deserve to be copied. Zack the Hack essentially made a collage of all the pulpy sci fi stuff he likes then dunked that collage in a toilet filled with shit.
>Turok and 40k deserve movies
You don't want that. This is unironically a better 40k movie than it otherwise ever would have gotten. If mainstream Hollywood ever developed a 40k property it would be beyond an irredeemable abortion. I can only pray the morons at GW mismanage the situation and wienerblock any production from ever getting started.
>If mainstream Hollywood ever developed a 40k property it would be beyond an irredeemable abortion.
That's what Rebel Moon is to me. It's an aborted baby fetus Warhammer 40k clone that makes the Imperium the bad guys, features no cool Chaos Daemons, Orks, Eldar, Necrons, Nids, nor Tau, and shoves in current day bullshit social politics.
Why was this movie so fricking blurry, I felt like I was watching it through a fisheye lens. I understand depth of field, but this was like some awful radial blur filter applied over the whole movie.
Zack's recently developed an obsession with old low element prime lenses. They give a really creamy nice bokeh and a really interesting swirly quality to the out of focus portions of the image. The problem is they have more aberration and way less sharpness everywhere but the center of the image. They can get really nice artistic images for stills but they're not really appropriate for film use unless you really really really plan your shots around it.
It's the same reason so much of Army of the Dead was so soft and the focal plane was so unbelievably razor thin.
>omg Snyder is le epric based red-pill man look this movie is actually about israelites, therefore it's le kinooooo *sharts in slow-mo*
no one cares. this movie is absolute bottom of the barrel dogshit
>bad guys have all the good guys tied up >alright just don't do the one thing that could free them for no reason >they do the one thing that could free them for no reason
The whole movie kinda looks like a pro-natalist pro-White propaganda ngl, especially the first half, with the spaceship (representing life) coming out of the pussy, the Father of the village telling his fellow men to be fruitful and multiply, the young girl feeling something for the Asian guy and then becoming a kind of both mother & daughter figure for the droid when she gives him a towel and then puts the flower crown on him, making him one with Nature (Nature here being analogous to the Force in Star Wars), Kora realizing her maternal instincts by trying to save said girl from being raped by General Zod/Agent Van Alden and his colleagues, as any mother would do to her children, then the droid realizing his paternal instincts by killing Zod, and the White blonde blue-eyed Princess (who was the original girl the Droid was meant to protect) is shown as someone who "could have saved everyone and given life to dead things" (the part about resurrecting the dead is probably also Zack Snyder's personal grief after losing his daughter and wanting so much to bring her back from the dead). Oh, and don't forget the heterosexual countryside v. homosexual/queer city struggle, with rural/Amish community looking beautiful and healthy and urbanites looking weak and dysgenic. I think Zack has seen the latest fertility rate statistics (pic related) and is telling all his fans to abandon the urban way of life, make as many children as possible and to do everything they can to make sure that most of those children are healthy and connected to nature and don't commit suicide (an unnatural thing, real heroes only die of old age or on the battlefield fighting the industrialized imperialists/Nazis and killing them with the spear - the anarcho-primitivist weapon of choice). And making a movie is a great way to promote this point of view, just as Zack Snyder's Justice League promoted paying attention to each other's mental health and suicidal thoughts.
>the young girl feeling something for the Asian guy
This part probably is there to represent modern White/European young women's obsession with K-pop, anime, doramas and East Asian culture in general, as well as Asian men becoming the new sex idols after years of being neglected and seen as having little penises, being too weak, feminine and "ugly". At least that's how most people would probably interpret it, I guess.
6/10? Are you guys moronic? This movie is a borderline 4 nothing in it so awful that I can justly call it a dumpster fire. But its not even slightly entertaining for more than 20 minutes of its runtime.
It's like this frickwit said to himself "I want to make all the same mistakes CASSHERN (2004) made 20 years ago"
High Contrast, Optic-Nerve-Rape, Discordant, Photoshop-tastic, Crappy CGI, Visual Bloom Nightmare, Slip-Shod Digital Concept-Art In-Betweening masquerading as a movie.
Vid related:
You could literally play a game of "Rebel Moon or Casshern?" using still frames from either movie.
Awesome beginning, poorly paced middle act, hard to gauge how it works as a whole considering it ends on a cliffhanger for the sequel. Compared to Star Wars which it's loosely based on, it's a much more sophisticated evolution of the original trilogy than the sequels.
It's main problem is the pacing in the middle. Recruiting Nemesis and General Whatshisface just kind of went by without properly establishing the characters or their backstory. Which is really bizarre considering how careful and patient the first act before they left their home planet was.
I just don't know how this film is 135m long but still has zero character development for most characters, especially Titus, Tarak, and Nemesis. Titus has no conversations with any other character after being recruited. Even the recruitment scene is like 5 lines. Nemesis says nothing after her recruitment. Tarak says nothing after being recruited, the only thing we get is one line about him being a prince or something. What is all the runtime being used for?
All those characters were introduced by the villain(s) instead of being shown by subtle details.
Take for example how dumb they introduced the robot - a villain character stared at the camera and told the viewers. Compare that with how they introduced R2D2 and C3P0 in A New Hope.
I agree. It felt rushed by during the recruiting scenes. Even King Levitica's planet looked like unfinished concept art and watercolor paintings. I wouldn't be surprised if the screenplay was unfinished too. That's why they just threw one exposition after another. Now compare that with the recruiting scenes in Seven Samurai and Magnificent Seven.
>Velcome to ourr space village, vee arr a hearty people that live de olden medieval times which is fricking ridiculous because surely space travelling civilzations have agricultural developments beyond le alien ox and plow but no. >Alas, eet ees not quoite as ridiculous as our random, vaguely scandinavian accents
I've met Snyder it a convention and he seemed like a pretty down to earth kinda guy, but why does he have a cult of weirdoes that think he's some underappreciated genius? He's made like objectively 3 good flicks a decade ago but all of those were scripts he didn't write. Heck even his cinematography was handled by someone entirely different and it shows.
6.5/10. Lots of angry morons seething for no reason.
art direction is shit terrible scifi costumes
>space vikings to some ussrtype uniform under a rome system
>space vikings to some ussrtype uniform under a rome system
Picrel.
Reddit shit
The real bad guys aren't even white. The white king was slain by mutts he invited to his military and close personal circle. Every general shown other than Noble are some sort of Latino.
The theme the movie is going for, and this will become more apparent in the director's cut, is that expansionism and multiculturalism is a mixed bag because it dilutes the culture and identity of people, creating resentment and strife. The old king was slain by people from off-world that he tried to assimilate and befriend, Kora finds peace in a monocultural village where life is simple and its people have a strong connection to its land, several of the characters are people that lost their home and culture and are aimless.
The movie is a lot more red-pilled than this thread gives it credit. It is about the evil of multiculturalism/colonialism.
In the movie the old rightful king, played by Cary Elwes (The Princess Bride) is betrayed and killed by his close confident, a mutt from off world named Balisarius, played by Fra Fee (Les Misérables), who's then appointed as Regent of the Imperium.
The prophesied princess Issa mentioned in the trailers is also killed by Balisarius' people, aka Kora, played Sofia Boutella (Atomic Blond), who was groomed by Balisarius as a unfeeling soldier.
Kora then regrets her actions, because Balisarius as Regent of the Imperium turns the Imperium into a worse colonial power raising entire planets just for their resources. The culture and art also becomes neglect. The Imperium becomes mutt paradise.
So Kora escapes and goes to live in a secluded planet that is basically Norway. A monocultural farming planet where she can live a peaceful life.
>Regent Balisarius is far more vicious than the Slain King was. According to Zack Snyder, "the regent Balsarius, he's much more like a dictator. Like, as [Joseph] Stalin was. He'd be happy to raze a planet just for its natural resources rather than like 'oh, we should like land and see what the people are like and maybe some of them can fight for us' and you know like 'maybe we could assimilate their culture into ours' where it was a much more sort of you know 18th-century imperialism, with old king being based on the Nicholas II who was the last Tsar of the Russian Empire, where now the modern Imperium is much more aggressive than -- that was aggressive, and now it's worse."
I agree, synders proto-fascistic filmmaking has reached a fever pitch with the increase in budget.
this perpetuation of the rural nobility myth in how he portrayed the racially homogenous nordic (note the longhouse reference, which is an alt right dogwhistle) inspired farmers of veldt who live in a patriarchal society where woman like the main character are pressured to aschew casual sex in favor of marriage and literally pubically pressured into sex
This is unforgivable that these are meant to be the protagonist
while snyder does assemble a main cast thats on its face diverse, when we look closer we find its rife with harmful stereotypes, like the native american coded prince who has a magical bond with animals like the noble savage myth of old, or the mysterious asian swordswoman whos from, yep, a cyberpunk world with all the orientalist baggage that comes from, or the incredibly shallowed defined general whos meant to stereotype the nubian slaves used in roman arenas
Lets not forget the only lgbt representation is a a literal pig faced rapist
So frick this hack filmmmaker and his chud fans
>Lets not forget the only lgbt representation is a a literal pig faced rapist
Umm... Let's not forget about these cuties.
Drag queens are not necessarily LGBTQIA+ people, many are straight and only do it for entertainment though...
And the non binary rebel who takes over after the black guy defeats the spaceship by killing one gunner?
Yeah, I really could have lived without dragging gender freaks into the film.
>And the non binary rebel who takes over after the black guy
This one? Is it ever stated in the film that she is non binary and not just a woman with a buzz cut?
The actress is non-binary, so Snyder let the character be non-binary. But in the director's cut they show she was a very feminine girl before being captured by the Imperium.
ah okay, totally spotted the non binary chick.. NOT
How does one do it?
>The actress is non-binary
Doesn't mean a thing, Emma d'Arcy is also non-binary, yet she plays the adult Rhaenyra in HOTD, who is clearly a female character.
Tell me about her. Why does she wear the mask?
>many drag queens are straight
This. There are lots of people who've had sex with men who aren't gay (like you)
But aren't the troons at the seedy bar meant to be looked at with disgust. Everything in that bar is shown as gross, dangerous, and degenerate. This in contrast to the farming village where everyone is kind, supportive, and there's a clear pro- you need to find a husband/wife and plow your seeds message.
Now this is cope
No, it isn't.
The Providence bar is a brothel. It is a dangerous place full of strange aliens, gay people, and cutthroat scum.
This in contrast to the idyllic village where everyone is human, white, and kind.
Shill alert
>look guys it's secretly le redpilled and le based please waste your time watching this sirs please redeem
Cope? How is it unrealistic for a degenerate society to have degenerates? It's like b***hing about trannies in cyberpunk. Of course a dystopian rogues gallery is going to have sexual deviants. Sometimes I think you people are disingenuous posting shit takes and are the same people who turn around and say "look what /misc/ is saying."
>dabs on gays by portraying them as ugly and aggressive rapists
>dabs on troons by showing that they do not pass
>makes the actor pose as a swastika with the sun in the background while the character tries to catch the bird, which resembles a Third Reich/NSDAP eagle
What did Sneeder mean by that?
i will now watch your kino
>I agree, synders proto-fascistic filmmaking
lol
>any criticism of communism is fascist!
lamo
You're exaggerating a little bit probably but yeah, there's decent stuff in there.
>The prophesied princess Issa mentioned in the trailers is also killed by Balisarius' people, aka Kora, played Sofia Boutella
Yeah, clearly the twist isn't going to be that her "betrayal" was actually faking the princess' death and hiding her on that backwater farming planer, where her true nature is clearly visible to the badass loyalist robot
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/7rfQjN4KJQ-dzghN0pbLBg/
Oh great, the cope paragraphs are here. They were a fun read to see how morons cope with Snyder's hack shit back in the BvS days but I think I'll skip these.
Try to argue against the points raised. You can't. The movie isn't complex. These themes are in your face.
I like the movie, but the polcope is always cringe
It is not even polcope. Just things that stood out for me.
Here, i can try to frame it another way.
The movie is about nature, okay? The closer we are, as the farmers, the better. The further away, like the Imperium, the worse? It is a brutalism vs communion thing.
No talks about colonialism.
Zack Snyder has been beating that dead horse since MoS.
The kryptonians that treat science like religion and are all sexless automatons bad.
Humans or kryptonians that keep the old way, are married, make children, and have sex good.
Snyder for some odd reason is really hung up about old family unit and the need to have children.
>The movie is about nature, okay? The closer we are, as the farmers, the better. The further away, like the Imperium, the worse? It is a brutalism vs communion thing.
Did Snyder draw inspiration from Pentti Linkola, Ted Kaczynski, and other deep ecologists/ecofascists?
I don't know, but this has been happening so much in his movies that i feel he is probably into that shit.
In Man of Steel Krypton is doomed, not because the planet was going to blow up like in every other version but because the society had degenerated into a techno-nightmare where everyone is some sort of sexless clone, everyone follow directives the moment they're born, and they all see treat science as a dogma.
The good Kryptonians, meanwhile are aware that their society is doomed in every way and have decided to go back to monkey by having sex and having a child the old natural way, which is seen as sacrilege by others.
John and Marta, Superman adoptive parents, are super close to one another.
Superman and Lois, are so into each other they can sense when the other is in danger and are there the moment it happens, because their need to each other is that great, and this is what helps them save the day.
Meanwhile the other kryptonians that are all sexless work individually and are all killed because of it.
This is hammered again and again in the sequels where Martha or Lois are made to symbolically represent the entire world in their man's life, to the point Superman might lose his shit and become evil if Lois die.
Here you've the same points the visual motif of the village, the farming, the plowing of seeds, the festival with the orgy, the old man pressuring Kora to take a permanent lover to finally be accepted in the village as one of them, and so on.
Meanwhile the soldiers of Imperium or other aliens are all degenerates, all live in high-tech/low-life environments, are all part cybernetics, and all they try is exploit others. You constantly have the contract of the farming planet as an idyllic place and the Imperium as a decayed society. The Jimmy robot literally goes to wander in the wild and try and become one with nature in his attempt to find his own identity, whereas as before he was a tool used as nothing but a glorified fooklift.
What a profoundly gay thing of you to say, Anon.
Why?
I was searching for interviews to see if i wasn't looking too much into the movie and just seeing what isn't there, but i found an interview where someone related to the movie production unironically talk some points that fit with my reading of the movie.
>According to Dechant, the film “is a battle between brutality and harmony.” As Admiral Noble ominously traverses the galaxy, he brings destruction to civilizations and entire worlds. Veldt contrasts the nihilism of the Imperium with its kindness and integration with nature. It’s a “place worth fighting for,”
>Dechant explained: “The aesthetic that we’ve been working with is brutality versus harmony. And we have this, the Imperium, it’s trying to clamp down on these systems with all the force of their power. And then we have our heroes, which we start our story out in Veldt, which is this is very retro-futuristic, yet harmonious village that's on the moon orbiting a gas giant. And that kind of sets up the aesthetic that kind of takes us through the world-building that we're doing….”
that's just big words to say "hippies good, imperialism bad" which any moron can see
They aren't hippies, though. Hippies were degenerate and didn't put actual work. They're meant to represent a Nordic village.
So it's kinda like Tolkien's Shire=GOOD because it's a rural and simple community, Isengard and Mordor (and Morgoth's kingdom before them)=BAD because they're destructive industrial powers that want to control and corrupt nature and its resources, and most elven, dwarven, and human kingdoms are somewhere in the middle because they take more from nature than they should, but they still don't exploit it to the limit like Sauron and Saruman do?
Yes, though Zack Snyder have the weird thing about the need for a man to settle down with a woman and have a child, because apparently the only thing stopping society from dooming itself is the old family unit like a 50's propaganda movie.
Here you've the same points made by MoS, where Imperium distort and exploit sexual/romantic relationships as another instrument of war, with the Imperium soldiers all dressing the same and being genderless - see Kora as a soldier with a man's hairstyle and wearing a male soldiers uniform, and Kora in the village with her grown hair and wearing a dress. They're also all sort of like cyborgs, with Admiral Noble having a plate skull and engaging in drugs and weird sex again with Admiral Noble fricking an alien creature made of tentacles. Not to mention the Imperium soldiers wanting to rape the village girl because sex for them is just another excuse for them to exercise their power and abuse others.
In contrast the farming village is all about couples, and making children, and farming, and harvesting, and everyone's opinion mattering. Kora is pressured to get a husband so she can finally be accepted as one of them, otherwise she will remain forever an outsider. Kora, again, is finally able to be feminine with her sporting long hair and going to the festival in a dress. Then you've Gunnar, who is in love with Kora, and saves everyone in the end.
Forgot to mention the robot's "arc" with him fricking off and later being shown with an antler's horn, signifying him becoming one with nature.
Zack Snyder's a scientist Christian, which is a weird American cult based on ideas about Catholicism. That's where the weird ideas about family unit in his movies come from;
Based. To me the clearest visual raprasentation of this nature vs machine thematrics was when the rebel tribal african guy (WITH DREADS NO LESS) sprinted against a giant metal battleship and chucked it down with a STICK.
A FRICKING STICK.
This hulking giant metal behemoth built for space tech warfare was brought down by some guy with a STICK. I could not believe how mind numbing this scene was but holy sweet mother Gaia was it symbolically deep and meaningfuel.
Yeah, that was intentional despite it is also just a cool action scenes. The type Snyder likes.
But i also think that the heroes all being somewhat tech-less people with no chance in hell of winning going against this huge high-tech empire full of soldiers and spaceships is also intentional. One of the film's score is titled "A Good Place to Die".
Honestly, i think they might all die in part 2. Specially if Snyder decide to follow Seven Samurai to a T. He already pulled that shit with Army of the Dead.
Mind numbing is not a compliment
Filtered.. simply filtered
To me this meant that Snyder prefers sticcs over thiccs. The fact that the ship was a chunky boi was intentional
Solid analysis.
It's not the worst thing in the world, but it's VERY clearly a rejected Star Wars script that he just changed some of he names for and sold to a different company
Honestly this is a good sign. Star Wars has had a stranglehold on this sort of sci-fi/space opera shit for too long. George Lucas doesn't own spaceships and space ninjas. It's a travesty that he even has a monopoly on laser swords. The mother fricker didn't even design 90% of the iconic shit in Star Wars.
Directors rarely design anything, they exercise their aesthetic sensibilities on what their artists bring to the table. He absolutely was crucial in bringing together the look of those designs. Proof is in the pudding with Disneywars being aesthetically bankrupt.
Solid 6/10, but Netflix needs some kind of franchise right now so at least there’s more in store to hope for that could potentially elevate it further
Worst thing they could do is cuck out now. Stick with it, see where it goes.
Exactly. I’m ready for the comfy journey.
Reminder that this movie is actually about Islam and the honorable fight that our brothers from Hamas are striking against the great Serpent that is Israel.
There is an Islamic belief that Isa (Jesus Christ peace be upon him) breathed into a clay bird and with God's permission gave life to the bird. In Rebel Moon a character called Princess Issa is seen giving life to a dead bird. Reference or coincidence?
Jews created Islam in order to take back Jerusalem
it's total shit
i can't rate it because i'm already dead
Wasted potential, some cool ideas. bad script, cringe direction.
It's as generic as it gets. Literally. It is basically the result of an extremely lazy ChatGPT prompt. That means it's not the worst thing ever, but still makes it extremely boring. Pretty much every scene feels like you have watched it before somewhere else and most of them feel like the worse version.
It's very cliche, like a Dnd story being played out. Should have had less characters and been structured better but was watchable 6.5/10
GURL POWER/10 but at least Sofia is fit and likable enough for me to buy that she's a bad b***h.
Will be remembered as the first film a Director created a script for on ChatGP, with unimpressive results.
>I said the meme again, mom
Post some more soijacks, homosexual.
Even if this isn't an AI generated script it sure feels like it. This has to be one of the most basic and generic scripts ever written and just stinks of the superficial mashing of generic themes and ideas that AI produces so well. Not that humans can't do that without AI help.
What are the themes?
Reminder.
Fricking saved. Movie is tropes-a- plenty, but Snyder is a fricking trope Einstein, so it's like watching Eddie Van Halen play a ukelele.
this reddit / twitter midwits will never be able to enjoy true snyder kino
I wanted to like it. I wanted a new universe to explore, that would be a setting for richer stories to come. Unfortunately it just felt trite and shallow. It also felt like half the movie was missing, which I guess it is. I was hoping for a full story, and that the promised "director's cut" would simply get into the geeky details and rabbit holes that might have bogged down the "theatrical cut." Instead, it felt like they took a 3+ hour movie with a lot of self-indulgent cinematic slow-motion and chopped out all the character interaction that would have made it feel like more of a lived in universe. I don't know, I still want to have hope for it as a franchise and nerd-friendly universe, but I fear it's just all flash and zero depth. I don't see other talented creators wanting to contribute to this universe either, which means the "EU" will likely consist of a handful of pozzed comics and novels, and not much else.
There's not a single damn element of this film that won't be better remembered when it was done in other movies.
The OT cribbed a lot of elements from old movies and made them iconic to Star Wars, but this forgettable pile of try-hard has nothing in it worth being nostalgic for in years hence.
Why was there so much rape attempts in it?
Because the entire movie is about the connection to nature. You've numerous visual and dialogue references to fields, seeds, and plowing. Comparisons about a good harvest meaning the the birth of children. The need for couples, intimacy, and sex for the health of a community.
Then in comparison you've the Imperium, with its degenerate genderless soldiers that connect themselves to a decayed technology, and only know how to conquer and blunder in their ever-growing hunt for resources. The first scene is literally a phalic space ship ripping the space's vegana. So that's why when they land in the idyllic village, they not only are going for the village's grains, but also attempt to rape one of its citizens.
Are you getting the contrast and theming here?
Catering to his powerful Indian fanbase.
if at first you dont succeed
How would you know they're bad if they don't rape?
>1
Because it was thematic.
They needed to show the farmers as good old-fashioned people that live by the land and have a healthy relationship with each other and sex.
Whereas the soldiers are all degenerates that live in decayed spaceships and only know how to exploit and abuse people. They see sex as nothing but an excuse to exert their power and take.
It is more thematic than anything else. Snyder usually isn't that concerned about showing realistic moments and stuffs. So the rape was absolutely essential.
>Why was there so much rape attempts in it?
Zack Snyder
Because Snyder has a rape fetish and inserts it into everything, he also believes sexual violence to be a "mature and grown-up" subject and if you put it in your film it makes it more mature and grown-up.
Literally felt like I was watching a speed run of a Mass Effect 2.
Lmao I was thinking of Mass Effect and KOTOR halfway through.
Crap
Snyder is a hack.
Even the butchered/made for tv/abridged for little kiddies version is a solid 7/10. That patented Snyder earnestness doesn’t always hit the mark, but rarely misses too. The Sneeder cut will likely slap.
After a second watch its honestly just ok.
The movie knows it is so bland in the scene where the heroes get captured two (2) characters have to give you a literal explanation of who everyone is in case you forgot (which you probably did).
Can't believe that capture scene was greenlit. The villain literally gives a bio of each character lol
I think it is great it was left in. It exemplifies the movie as a whole.
I liked ho the imperial soliders took less than a day to try raping that chick lol Especially when they needed their grain.
Kek, is it a remake of suicide squad?
I fricking hate Snydergays.
Its like a TV show with a huge budget. Nothing is really happening. Director saw 40k and starwars
>the evil emperor looks like some soft-faced rando with a fake beard and an irish accent
what the frick is Snyder smoking
Just a string of cliches cobbled together.
generic sci-fi with a big budget.
6/10
it wasn't offensively bad but kind of boring and soulless.
I will say this about my expectations. My expectations were low because i knew Netflix fricked around with it and made it pg13. This is a fatal error in my view. Star wars and this Rebel Moon are based on the same adult comics from the 70s and 80s. The old star wars is fun but it's also for kids. This really should have been an adult space opera. Because star wars left so much on the table what made those comics iconic in the first place. Because this is also pg13 it just operates in the same sphere as a worse version of star wars. Which is why my hype for this film died pretty quickly.
I did actually watch it however and i fully expected it to turn it off at some point during the movie. As it happens i finished and quite enjoyed it for its sci fi elements and the world building story. The actual story of the protagonist is incredibly bare bones and outright bad. Which given the former is quite a shame. Given my very low expectations and relative enjoyment at the end. I give it a 6/10. It's a shame it's a pg 13 flick.
The running defense of this movie on Cinemaphile is so blatant it's a wonder they don't include links to merchandise.
If you disagree, why don't you argue against it?
There he is now.
I'm a different person to the anon you are nerd raging at and I'm not saying red pilled is a good or bad thing. Just that zack seems to be mocking wokery
Oh and I suspect the zack is secretly red pilled. All the sane people are white and all the aliens and super special main characters are not and taken to a bizarre extreme. Like he is mocking them and the idea of it.
I think my favorite scene of the whole movie is when the main character has to be established as someone who has forgotten how to love and what the concept of family is so she can have an arc
This is done by her literally stating straight to the camera that she is a child of war that had the concepts of love and family beaten out of her.
Lmao.
She is talking with the old man.
Yeah it's totally about them having a conversation. It has absolutely nothing to do with the terrible script being incapable of establishing its main character's traits by showing them instead of spelling them out loud.
Holy shit anon, are you completely moronic or is this your first movie?
Snyderkino.
Cinemaphile is irrelevant
but obligatory frick you i liked it
not watching this shit after army of the dead/10
Its way better than army of the dead but still not a good movie.
Seven Samurai in space.
Suffers from the same shit all Snyder movies suffer from. He has no idea how to write or build characters or the relationships between them to make any specific moment impactful. He doesn't foreshadow anything, his movies are so consistently just edited together shots of this happened and then this happened,,, BUT IT LOOKS COOL. A lot of shit like always looks really cool. Nice aesthetic, awesome props super decent costuming. Slow motion, you like slow motion action scenes rights, of course you do, we all like slow motion in action scenes. But beyond that it's nothing. But also I'm an butthole because I'm judgeing Snyder on this movie and not the 5 hour directors cut coming out in a few months or because I think every part of something you release should be good and I'm not waiting till part two that will totally explain everything in a satisfying way.
>He doesn't foreshadow anything
His DC movies were nothing but foreshadow and pay-offs.
It's very Bollywood tier. Everyone just shows up, poses, say whatever is on their mind (just exposition), everyone is posturing in a cringy way all the time, all show and zero depth, total lack of class and refinment, everything just face value "cool" as if written by a child
This slow-slow-mo tho.
we can go SLOWER
Oh yeah. Such a who cares and why is this guy even here moment.
Northern Irish guy actual seemed like a human.
>I'm a dick who wants to collect a bounty.
And he is killed quickly.
pic related gets more true with every new flick Snyder makes.
Cinematography in that scene is really bad. Rule of 3s would have made it look so much better
And I noticed there were lights burning into my eyes in so many scenes. Save a thought for some of us watching this on dissos
I didn’t realize it was out already
They Snyder cut will fix it
It's feminist Star Wars, but with a gay cantina.
Why does a spaceship have glass you can smash through with some regular old spear
To be honest, it wasn't even a spear, just a long piece of metal, I think it was shrapnel from one of the blown up ships.
because it looks cool you fricking dimwit
lmao this homie is over here expecting some nerd with a calculator calculating the physics of how to build a fake space ship
>hey Zack since I pissed away my career for you you’re totally gonna make me a main character in your next franchise, right?
>oh yeah Ray don’t worry buddy I’ll take care of you
>dies in first movie
Best part of the movie
That was Ray Fisher? Didn't notice. He was decent in ZSJL
>Black person
>spear
Do you think fans would be more receptive if instead of just releasing the Snyder Cut, he instead simply released the Snyder Butt to the public?
I guess if Snyder were directing Star Wars Episode IV, he would have Luke threatened with rape by the spider-like creature and the disfigured man who, in Lucas' version, told Luke that they don't like him.
The chair breaking with slow motion was weird but the rest of the scene was good.
Holy shit, Star Wars did this scene in like 3 lines/20 seconds max and we got the first lightsaber limb amputation in cinema history into the bargain.
This just goes on forever and we all know where it's going anyway. And the alien wasn't even interesting and Apple Cora didn't do anything actually surprising. When Ben nails butt-mouth and Dr israelite it's a total wow moment. Yeah, we'd seen 100 cowboy movies with the quick-draw six-shooter take down in a bar, but nothing like that. And again, it was one and done in 20 seconds and we were moving the frick along immediately.
Remember the "Star Wars was saved in the edit" meme? This is what that means. But now even TV Star Wars is full of these deathly slow, awkward, uninteresting trope-ish scenes unfolding at a snail's pace with no spark in them.
"Like Star Wars, but terrible!"
"Like Star Wars, but with all things still in it that when removed by talented editors saved Star Wars from failure!"
I usually watch movies on my pc but I threw this on in my living tv and the voices were quiet and music so loud wtf. it was beautiful tho
>MC was supposed to be played by BIPOC or multiracial female
>Snyder casts white woman
Why?
it's dogshit for morons.
Extreme lame movie, made by Snyder and paid by israeliteflix.
- Another fricking evil space empire (and now they look like space-nazi because its 2023).
- Evil white dudes vs stronk woman + diverse farteched cast of ultra lame fighters.
- Not a single memorable character, with good character design. Its all shit, cant even sell toys.
- Edgy scenes with no substance: le ripped indian riding a flying beast, le swordwoman fighting spider, le general looks like a beat up drunked hobo...
- moronic onions takes: the male farmer who cant even drink a space drink, a homosexual alien, a villain with tentacle obsession, non binary dyke screaming....
Seriously... it was totally shit. Snyder is a fricking joke. With some effort, couls have been kino, but we all know its impossible, specially nowaday.
>Evil white dudes vs stronk woman + diverse farteched cast of ultra lame fighters
But in the end, it was the GOOD white dude who saved the strong woman and the diverse group of fighters, without him they'd be totally fricked.
>Evil white dudes
The guy is hispanic
>Another fricking evil space empire (and now they look like space-nazi because its 2023)
Never watched Star Wars?
please stop bankrolling Zack Snyder, he is a midwit psseudointellectual who neer matured beyond the brooding edgy teenager phase of emotional deveopment.
As a woman I hate watching strong females because that is not who I want to be. Is this movie worth watching?
Where are all the screenshots/potter that shows us how Snyder's shitty new movie is le brilliant?
4 seasons, clockwise: spring, summer, fall, winter.
>autumn, autumn, winter, autumn
good albeit short
a movie?
i was expecting the usual 8 episodes format netflix have.
I actually think that a series would have been better at least that way the heroes would have gotten more than their 15 min intro and the info dump from the bad guy. How can you ruin such a simple concept by having none of the main group interact with each other.
This was my issue. They were literally just walking archetypes that might as well have been made of wax after their intros. I got no sense of their personalities, and definitely no bonding between them. Just nothing. They stood around and that's it.
Phantom menace (5) > RM (4.8)
comfy Legend of the Seeker vibes but the bollywood moneyshots kinda ruin it
How did civilizations in this universe become interplanetary without industrial scale agriculture? The premise of this movie is absurd. Snyder wanted to copy and paste Seven Samurai so bad that he didn't really think of anything else.
Look, i am trying to not go all /misc/, but according to Zack Snyder himself Imperium decayed after the old white king was slain by Balisarius, who's an off-worlder, and as you can see here
, the casting call specifically asked for a Latino actor, although i don't think the actor they cast, Fa Free, is actually Latino.
The movie has this weird bent against colonialism/multiculturalism. The main heroes are all people that suffered under the Imperium expansion efforts. Their home planet were conquered, they were taken from their home to go live on the Imperium's home world, they were stripped from their home culture and identity to be conscripted as soldiers of the Imperium. Everyone's under Imperium's rule, but also everyone hates Imperium. Imperium is a multicultural society in war with itself.
In contrast the farming planet of Veidt is a clearly Nordic influenced monocultural society where even Kora as seen as a outsider, but it is still a place worth fighting and dying for to the point all these characters decide to join up what seems a losing fight. In the trailers you can see that each character came from a planet that was also monocultural inspired by the actors on birthplace. Sofia's character came from planet Algeria, Dijimon's character came from planet Nigeria, and so on.
But what actually makes this point so much overt is the old royal family, that were all white, being slain by a latino General, and then the old empire decaying and becoming worse under the Latino general rule.
Here's the Snyders talking about how the Imperium decayed after the royal family assassination.
>Regent Balisarius is far more vicious than the Slain King was. According to Zack Snyder, "the regent Balsarius, he's much more like a dictator. Like, as [Joseph] Stalin was. He'd be happy to raze a planet just for its natural resources rather than like 'oh, we should like land and see what the people are like and maybe some of them can fight for us' and you know like 'maybe we could assimilate their culture into ours' where it was a much more sort of you know 18th-century imperialism, with old king being based on the Nicholas II who was the last Tsar of the Russian Empire, where now the modern Imperium is much more aggressive than -- that was aggressive, and now it's worse."
>Under the more dictatorial leadership of Balisarius, the Imperium also begins to decay culturally. While there was an appreciate for art and culture, shown in impressive stained glass windows and towering architecture, the Imperium begins to decay into a more utilitarian focus and a more brutalist aesthetic. According to Producer Deborah Snyder, "there's the notion that after the royal family's death, everything became, there wasn't any need for formality, or they didn't try and advance, they just, they were war machines. So everything was very practical. And they let, you'll even see with the costumes, the way they looked and then the way they currently look, it's like they still have all the detail, but it's just not taken care of like it was when the king was alive. All of that kind of gets lost, that appreciation of the art of everything. "
The old royal family despite being a colonial power were looking into incorporating the culture and lifestyle of the planets they conquered into their society, they also welcomed off-worlders in their close circle as one of their own, and spelled their doom. Balisarius got in and betrayed their trust, usurped power. Kora was his right hand in all of this.
This movie is subtle condemning multiculturalism.
>main character is named Arthelais
>look it up
>is Catholic Saint
>patron saint of kidnapping and people forced into exiles
Kora didn't kill the princess, the village girl IS the princess. That's the twist.
anon solved it
It was pretty obvious.
cute
>the water girl is the life giver
bravo snyder. tbh i don’t believe this.
worst movie about a rebel moon in 2023.
I watched it and think it was pretty okay with some cool moments, I dont get the amount of seething the movie got though.
it's shit
the dialogue and acting are wooden and unnatural
the plot is dumb, the characters are all superficial
every scene feels like it was stolen from something else and pasted together
the fact that this board likes it just goes to show how moronic and contrarian it is
Complete fricking garbage.
Leave it to Snyder to frick up his own take on Star Wars, which he had 100% creative freedom with.
3/10
Not great, not terrible. Let’s see where it goes
Sorry Snyder
all these posts about how the movie was written by a chatgpt bot ironically read like they were written by a chatgpt bot
>have interstellar wormhole tech
>sentient robots
>all manner of spaceships
>convoluted virtual reality communication
>any number of inhabited planets
>random antigravity pillars on that one planet with the stupid alien king
>etc...
BUT, the evil bad guys have to harass farmers for crops to feed billions of soldiers, so I can have le innocent farmers in my space movie.
C'mon, anon.
The bad guys came to the village because they're hunting the Bloodaxe rebels and knew that the village was selling their grains to the rebels. This is something that Admiral Noble says, as soon as he lands on the village. That he is hunting the rebels and if the villagers know of any information about them.:
Next we see the rebels' contact with the village, being dragged by bounty hunters. This a day after the bad guys landed on the village.
The bad guys knew the village was feeding the enemy, and decided to teach them a lesson.
The farmers are moronic on purpose. Normal farmers use robots and shit.
I liked it. Snyder reminds me of Lars Von Trier. You never really enjoy their films, but there's something there worth watching. They both seem to have autism, in that they both have a mastery of film technique and have an undeniable style, but they also feel alien and soulless. Noticing their skill vs their inability to connect is always interesting.
reminder that when shill threads appear here it's your duty to hit the imdb rating (currently 5.8 lmao)
Shit Moon
Really 7.5/10, but 9.5/10 for making trannies and israelites seethe s
Sofia Boutella makes my weener get big, but otherwise it's not a very good movie. There have been much worse movies, but this one just kind of sucks. Would have been better as a series where each episode they pick up a new crew member and learn their backstory. Maybe 8 30-40 minute episodes. That way I give a shit about at least one of them.
just finished it
absolute garbage
its like a synopsis of a film, like someone else watched a movie and theyre telling you what happened in it but they miss all the guts of it and just gloss over what generally happened
>day 3
>Rome
>Nazis
>Magic
>Star Wars
>“I’m putting together a team”
Hack Snyder can’t write for shit. It seems like he is trying to milk a plot out of a bunch of themes and it just doesn’t work
Yeah, same character.
Snyder literally recreated A New Hope with the numbers filed off and then was surprised that Disney rejected it as they have already done it with JJ Abrams. It's so unbelievably shit, makes you wonder if this is his love project and his own setting then Zack Znyder might actually be mentally moronic. I came up with better Star Wars scenarios when I was 12.
I think people are so used to hating everything that they can't step back and actually enjoy something. Rebel Moon might be the definition of "derivative" but it goes so hard into being derivative that I found it hilarious to point out all the shit it was pulling from
>star wars
>40k
>Firefly
>gladiator
>john carter
>turok the dinosaur hunter
>dune
>avatar
>unforgiven
>300
I could keep going.
I wasn't expecting this christmas season to even get an enjoyable movie. Maybe the bar is set really low but it was kind of a breath of fresh air.
I'll forgive Rebel Moon for being a ridiculous derivative mess, I enjoyed it.
Ever heard of something being not greater than the some of its parts? Turok and 40k deserve movies and this trash is potentially ruining their chances. Dune Part 1, Unforgiven, 300, and the OG Star Wars Trilogy are all better movies. Avatar and Firefly don't deserve to be copied. Zack the Hack essentially made a collage of all the pulpy sci fi stuff he likes then dunked that collage in a toilet filled with shit.
>Turok and 40k deserve movies
You don't want that. This is unironically a better 40k movie than it otherwise ever would have gotten. If mainstream Hollywood ever developed a 40k property it would be beyond an irredeemable abortion. I can only pray the morons at GW mismanage the situation and wienerblock any production from ever getting started.
>If mainstream Hollywood ever developed a 40k property it would be beyond an irredeemable abortion.
That's what Rebel Moon is to me. It's an aborted baby fetus Warhammer 40k clone that makes the Imperium the bad guys, features no cool Chaos Daemons, Orks, Eldar, Necrons, Nids, nor Tau, and shoves in current day bullshit social politics.
>Second line in the film is about the Longhouse
How did Sneeder get away with it?
>female protagonist
no thanks
KYS
Why was this movie so fricking blurry, I felt like I was watching it through a fisheye lens. I understand depth of field, but this was like some awful radial blur filter applied over the whole movie.
you summoned the monitor autist
Zack's recently developed an obsession with old low element prime lenses. They give a really creamy nice bokeh and a really interesting swirly quality to the out of focus portions of the image. The problem is they have more aberration and way less sharpness everywhere but the center of the image. They can get really nice artistic images for stills but they're not really appropriate for film use unless you really really really plan your shots around it.
It's the same reason so much of Army of the Dead was so soft and the focal plane was so unbelievably razor thin.
bokeh of fricking what, the backgrounds are all greenscreened in after the fact and he adds the effect digitally so it looks like ass
>omg Snyder is le epric based red-pill man look this movie is actually about israelites, therefore it's le kinooooo *sharts in slow-mo*
no one cares. this movie is absolute bottom of the barrel dogshit
Far superior to Disney wars, can't wait for part 2
thanks, Mudasir, much appreciated
>bad guys have all the good guys tied up
>alright just don't do the one thing that could free them for no reason
>they do the one thing that could free them for no reason
The whole movie kinda looks like a pro-natalist pro-White propaganda ngl, especially the first half, with the spaceship (representing life) coming out of the pussy, the Father of the village telling his fellow men to be fruitful and multiply, the young girl feeling something for the Asian guy and then becoming a kind of both mother & daughter figure for the droid when she gives him a towel and then puts the flower crown on him, making him one with Nature (Nature here being analogous to the Force in Star Wars), Kora realizing her maternal instincts by trying to save said girl from being raped by General Zod/Agent Van Alden and his colleagues, as any mother would do to her children, then the droid realizing his paternal instincts by killing Zod, and the White blonde blue-eyed Princess (who was the original girl the Droid was meant to protect) is shown as someone who "could have saved everyone and given life to dead things" (the part about resurrecting the dead is probably also Zack Snyder's personal grief after losing his daughter and wanting so much to bring her back from the dead). Oh, and don't forget the heterosexual countryside v. homosexual/queer city struggle, with rural/Amish community looking beautiful and healthy and urbanites looking weak and dysgenic. I think Zack has seen the latest fertility rate statistics (pic related) and is telling all his fans to abandon the urban way of life, make as many children as possible and to do everything they can to make sure that most of those children are healthy and connected to nature and don't commit suicide (an unnatural thing, real heroes only die of old age or on the battlefield fighting the industrialized imperialists/Nazis and killing them with the spear - the anarcho-primitivist weapon of choice). And making a movie is a great way to promote this point of view, just as Zack Snyder's Justice League promoted paying attention to each other's mental health and suicidal thoughts.
>the young girl feeling something for the Asian guy
This part probably is there to represent modern White/European young women's obsession with K-pop, anime, doramas and East Asian culture in general, as well as Asian men becoming the new sex idols after years of being neglected and seen as having little penises, being too weak, feminine and "ugly". At least that's how most people would probably interpret it, I guess.
bizarre turkey response
I thought it was pretty damned good.
Lmao there's a scene with a gay pig-humanoid alien hitting on the village guy, how does he keep getting away with chud films in 2023.
He's part of the tribe, he can do whatever he wants in his movies (at least until he's treated like Weinstein or Epstein by his own tribesmen).
He's Christian, I'd get it if he was a tribe member.
6/10? Are you guys moronic? This movie is a borderline 4 nothing in it so awful that I can justly call it a dumpster fire. But its not even slightly entertaining for more than 20 minutes of its runtime.
It's like this frickwit said to himself "I want to make all the same mistakes CASSHERN (2004) made 20 years ago"
High Contrast, Optic-Nerve-Rape, Discordant, Photoshop-tastic, Crappy CGI, Visual Bloom Nightmare, Slip-Shod Digital Concept-Art In-Betweening masquerading as a movie.
Vid related:
You could literally play a game of "Rebel Moon or Casshern?" using still frames from either movie.
Yeah, I also thought that Snyder's directing philosophy was similar to Kiriya's.
The show motion scenes were over the top and distracting. I lost interest.
Awesome beginning, poorly paced middle act, hard to gauge how it works as a whole considering it ends on a cliffhanger for the sequel. Compared to Star Wars which it's loosely based on, it's a much more sophisticated evolution of the original trilogy than the sequels.
It's main problem is the pacing in the middle. Recruiting Nemesis and General Whatshisface just kind of went by without properly establishing the characters or their backstory. Which is really bizarre considering how careful and patient the first act before they left their home planet was.
I just don't know how this film is 135m long but still has zero character development for most characters, especially Titus, Tarak, and Nemesis. Titus has no conversations with any other character after being recruited. Even the recruitment scene is like 5 lines. Nemesis says nothing after her recruitment. Tarak says nothing after being recruited, the only thing we get is one line about him being a prince or something. What is all the runtime being used for?
All those characters were introduced by the villain(s) instead of being shown by subtle details.
Take for example how dumb they introduced the robot - a villain character stared at the camera and told the viewers. Compare that with how they introduced R2D2 and C3P0 in A New Hope.
I agree. It felt rushed by during the recruiting scenes. Even King Levitica's planet looked like unfinished concept art and watercolor paintings. I wouldn't be surprised if the screenplay was unfinished too. That's why they just threw one exposition after another. Now compare that with the recruiting scenes in Seven Samurai and Magnificent Seven.
>Velcome to ourr space village, vee arr a hearty people that live de olden medieval times which is fricking ridiculous because surely space travelling civilzations have agricultural developments beyond le alien ox and plow but no.
>Alas, eet ees not quoite as ridiculous as our random, vaguely scandinavian accents
>character named Bloodaxe
>never uses an axe
I've met Snyder it a convention and he seemed like a pretty down to earth kinda guy, but why does he have a cult of weirdoes that think he's some underappreciated genius? He's made like objectively 3 good flicks a decade ago but all of those were scripts he didn't write. Heck even his cinematography was handled by someone entirely different and it shows.
The last scene was unnecessary, should've ended with the shot of the robot in the field.
Overall 5.5/10, not as bad as critics say but definitely one of Snyder's weaker films.
Caca stacked on caca
It's like Seven Samurai, but good