Reboots are metastasizing like cancer.

>Frasier is getting a reboot
Why? Why is this necessary or even wanted? Who are they going to market it to, septuagenarians?

Why so many reboots of 20+ year old TV shows, movies, sitcoms, cartoons, dramas, etc? Nobody wants them and they always fare spectacularly poorly.

Are the studios just that creatively bankrupt?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't mind a Frasier reboot if they could get most of the original cast and writers back, but they couldn't

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why stop there, lets soft reboot Cheers!

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        cheers era frasier was funnier than frasier era frasier because he was even more pathetic

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >cheers era frasier was funnier than frasier era frasier
          I agree, but my reasoning is that he's more consistent.
          Cheersier is a quack. Frasier2 is sometimes confused, but sometimes has you pegged. not by Lilith
          Is Frasier2 wise or a dipshit? It all depends on the episode.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >3rd Rock From the Sun Creators Address Potential Reboot

        >"Actually, we were in London at the same time that John Lithgow was there doing The Crown," Terry Turner shared with Variety. "We were sitting with John, and I thought, there's no reason why the aliens can't come back to London."

        https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/3rd-rock-from-the-sun-reboot-sequel-update-plans-future-reaction/

        Why even do something like this? It's so stupid, it's not even something a parodist would write in mockery. Thank dog there aren't any concrete plans to go through with it (yet).

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Holy shit what happened to French Stewart?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Clamato addiction ruins lives.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just glancing at the photo, I just assumed he was the director until I read this comment and scrolled back up.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >mfw need to hang out with my has-been co-stars while being the only one with a good career

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >while being the only one with a good career
            He's also the only one who's israeli.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        what would even be about? millennials are awfully boring and politically correct and zoomers don't drink

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't the guy playing Fraiser a racist? How did they get away recasting him?

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not gonna bother.

    The fatigue is real, bros.

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its technically not a reboot. This just seems like a vanity project for Kelsey Grammer

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      damn I love smoking

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      More like
      'I need cash holy frick the morgage on my mansion is due oh shit'

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      isnt that the blue homie in x men?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the blue homie in x men
        GET OUT
        yes, Kelsey Grammer played "the blue homie" in x men

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bebe is the best side character

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >that episode where Frasier fricks her and she walks around in Frasier's shirt the morning after.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not a reboot it's a sequel show. And it's pretty good.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't say "pretty good", but its still better than what I expected.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's solid. grammer still got it as does the other old dude. the rest of the cast is non-existent though so if they want to save the show they got to bring in some comedic talent

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't believe that's true. They're not going to reboot a show that they've only just revived.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The first episode was pretty decent, might be one of the better ones albeit pretty unnecessary

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    homie, the reboot came out a week ago
    it was mid, it was bad compared to the original, but the original is an oddity itself

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >new frasier
    >It's not about a radio guy trying to navigate podcasting

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      lmao can't believe noboy thought of this
      they'll probably do a podcast episode at least but to be fair podcasts are pretty gay and stupid, no mileage for a show there

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wouldn't have to actually be about podcasts. That's just the easy vehicle for "old man new world" shit. Good excuse to tie in him becoming more like Marty, etc.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      how THE FRICK is this set in boston yet he doesnt hang out with his old buddies ALL the fricking time?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It has been multiple decades. You grow apart when you don't grow together.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        They explored that on Frasier, whenever the Cheers characters visited him it was awkward and the moral of those stories was that they were friends for a time and place from which they have all moved on.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          there's no way he wouldnt reconnect in boston. watch more cheers.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can't see a world where Norm and Cliff are still alive. Diane is long gone. Carla is probably retired. Woody is a big success and wouldn't be hanging around the bar any more. The only people he'd even know at the bar are Sam if he's still working the bar himself, Rebecca, and possibly his ex-wife.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I dont understand the premise of some of these posts. 'Nobody wants to see them', 'who will they appeal to'.

      Frasier had some of the best writing in the 90s. If you want to learn how to put a scene together, watch a good episode of Frasier.

      Ive seen the first episode and it's got a solid framework. Grammar is actually very good in it. I don't think I would have gone the 'Frasier as academic celebrity' route so hard in the first episode. I'd also have introduced the kids differently.

      This could have been a bit more entertaining than the Frasier scenario we have now. Imagine having Joe Rogan do an episode, either as himself, or as a character--he is an actor and was on news radio. It could have been crazy having him do a modern take on a Bulldog type character.

      Being in Boston would also be a great excuse to bring comics on. He could be a frequent guest on a number of comics podcasts, just to give the character another space to inhabit and ground him a bit.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    New Frasier is wild

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      FRASIER: TAKE BACK THE NIGHT
      *CHK-CHK*
      *BOOM*

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Money Train

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/TqT2yqQ.jpg

      >Frasier is getting a reboot
      Why? Why is this necessary or even wanted? Who are they going to market it to, septuagenarians?

      Why so many reboots of 20+ year old TV shows, movies, sitcoms, cartoons, dramas, etc? Nobody wants them and they always fare spectacularly poorly.

      Are the studios just that creatively bankrupt?

      Does anyone remember that one show that Grammar was on where he was some powerful guy with a heart problem? Was it any good? Why did it ger canceled?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Boss. Starz canned it because it was crazy expensive. First season is absolutely worth watching, second falls hard imo.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Does the first season at least have some kind of resolution?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's hard to explain without massive spoilers. Both yes and no would be correct answers.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Metal Gear Rising

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I TOLD YOU TO PAIR IT WITH A CIANTI NILES

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        nobody pairs anything with chianti, chianti is cheap trash
        if anything they'd pair it with chianti classico riserva or gran selezione

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cam Winston upstaged one of Frasier's parties for the last time.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Do you guys think Frasier ever called Winston the N word?
        I think he did

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    People don’t like modern television, it’s soulless garbage so they try to bring back shows with soul and it doesn’t work. It’s not hard to comprehend why they do this. In my head the idea of a comfy show like Frasier coming back sounds terrific and in reality it will probably only make me sad to see how the cast has aged. When they brought the X-Files back years ago it was a huge success, so there’s that.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Are the studios just that creatively bankrupt?
    Yes

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its all about keeping people using your streaming service, so rebooting old schools might convince some people to carry on paying. Thats the idea anyway

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good
    >Frasier gets the best quips
    >the English professor friend gets the Gil persona but better jokes than Gil

    Bad
    >Freddy being an unhappy c**t
    >Niles son being a spastic when it’s not Niles

    That’s my review thank you
    It’s free on israelitetube

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the English professor friend gets the Gil persona but better jokes than Gil

      kek, I was trying to figure out who he reminded me of the show besides the british version of niles. Thanks anon

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I appreciate these continuation reboots trying to connect the new with the old but sadly it just don't hit right.
    Like the Night Court reboot created a daughter for one of the main characters, have one actor return, tried to recreate the same character tropes but it just felt soulless.
    Some old shows were all about the charm and natural chemistry of the cast.
    You just can't throw a bunch of people on screen as stand ins for long passed actors and hope for it to work.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even when you get the entire group back together, you're just as likely to get shit. It's like having a high school reunion and expecting the championship wrestling squad to bust out a tournament performance.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are people saying "reboot" about something that keeps the continuity intact and progresses the story? This is very frustrating to see.

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I watched both episodes this weekend with my girlfriend. You know what we both talked about afterwards? It wasn't the show, it was the fact that in two episodes with four or so commercial breaks each, every single commercial was almost entirely black actors with a few asians and mixed race people thrown in. Not a single white male the entire time. We lold hard and talked about how probably the entire audience for Frasier is old white people and yet they run these commercials. I say all this as a mixed race dude myself.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frasier is indeed a show for people in their fourties unless you watched it in one of the many reruns over the last 25 years.

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    you mean revival

    no one wants futurama
    no one wants more community
    no one wants more x-files

    it had its time and its place, if it died it died or just dont use it as another mouthpiece for some modern politik unless you want to continue its main plot mythos

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I certainly want more of shows I love, but like you said without all the modern political bullshit. I don't understand why current writers are incapable of writing an episode of a show with the same quality it had in the past. Just make a fun/interesting episode that isn't full of social commentary. Is that really so hard?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I want the Community movie.

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP here, yes, yes, the Paramount+ show is a continuity. I mean reboots, remakes, and revivals. Also not specifically Frasier, I just used that to start the thread, but all the reboots, etc. going on today.

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's just a yiddish humiliation ritual, OP. Stop being moronic.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >humiliation ritual
      I mean, I can see that for some franchises like Ghostbusters or Star Dreck, but some of these other ones feel like they're trying to make money on it, like (I almost feel sorry for mentioning it) the Beavis and Butt-Head reboot (which has been so far successful).

  21. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have they confirmed whether canonically Frasier killed Niles, Daphne, Roz, Martin and Eddie using omnislash, leaving Seattle a smoking ruin? I know they've heavily hinted at it but I'm not up to date on the latest eps.

  22. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't they just make new shows?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      People become attached to characters, settings, and the formula of shows they enjoy. Why wouldn't they want more of something they enjoy?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is the fundamental problem. People can't let things go. I loved Frasier. Then it ended, and I moved on. I don't desperately crave more episodes, and even if the revival has great writing, it's still a new series with different characters. The idea that 'I liked Frasier therefore I want a revival' is kind of a dumbfrick bit of logic that inevitable leads to every revival series' failure

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's the writing equivalent of what happened to anime- all the old school talented people aged out and their craft is a lost art. Every writer in the industry now has no idea what they're doing so the best they can hope for is to try and sell an inferior homage to the past with enough "clickbait" political commentary to get some traction in the press.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why don't they just make new shows?
      Because boomers are fricking lazy and risk averse. Back in the day, you would constantly be gearing your content for younger demographics but we live in a bizarre age where this isn't the case anymore. There is going to be this insane power vacuum created in 16 years where boomers have to relinquish power due to death and it will be the equivalence of plowing a sports car going 160 miles per hour into a brick wall. Our entire society is geared towards making them money and making their lives comfortable

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      They do, but a lot of the time studio execs will also just want to make some easy money.

  23. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Was this scene really artistically justified?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I prefer Cape Feare Sideshow Bob this is still scary it's just not ha ha scary

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's going on in this picture

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fraiser has left the building.

  24. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The problem is that isn’t that the original cast isn’t back. Cheers had a completely different cast and it was still quite good. It’s just that the characters have totally wrong characterisations and the premise is shit.

    Freddy has no business being a fireman considering he was ostensibly a child prodigy and raised by rich, cultured parents. Freddy’s characterisation in the show should have been as an actual elitist israelite who scoffs at psychology as a profession and is some lawyer/doctor. The conflict should’ve come from him actually being a real elitest stuck up rather than the superficial snobbery Frasier had. He looks down on his father because he was a pop psychologist, and not in the fun, playful way Niles employed. Perhaps he has a family of his own.

    David should have been more like Freddy’s character in the show. Like some Americanised football hooligan. It also ties back to the whole Daphne’s family plot and gives it some relevance. Daphne and Niles should’ve had more children, two daughters like they did in that episode where Niles was getting surgery, and David should’ve been sent away to live with Frasier because he’s a bit of a failure. Sort of like Fresh Prince. Over the course of the show he could become a respected fireman.

    The city really shouldn’t be Boston. They should’ve went with Chicago, which means Frasier would’ve lived on the east coast, west coast, and midwest in each iteration.

    These three could’ve then been the triumvirate of the show. You don’t really need a fleshed out extended cast. Also, they should’ve called it ‘Cranes’ or something.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      They should have just continued the Cheers spinoff tradition and expanded the CCU (Cheers Cinematic Universe) and gave Niles his own show. It actually would be neat if they just kept expanding on that for decades

  25. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    RIP John Mahoney :`(

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >over five years ago and counting
      >still no sticky
      OOoooOoOOoOoooo...

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        More than five years already? Damn.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks I hate it

  26. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    What was the point of this scene? Was it really necessary? I think it was a little over the top.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Hunting down Herschel Shlomo Attorney at Law
      Even Frasier knows TKD

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Now I want a Nazi Zombies movie starring Frasier

  27. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me, its Roz

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      "It's a pleasure"
      "It certainly is"

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        HHHHNNNNNRRRRRRGGGGGGGG

  28. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The black lady in new Frasier looked quite bangable in her black pencil skirt

  29. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sex with Lilith.

  30. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Who are they going to market it to, septuagenarians?
    Actually yes, that's most of the primetime TV sitcom market. Younger demos all watch online or play vidya. There is a legit dearth of quality material in this space.

  31. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The first episode of Fras wasn't as bad as everyone said

  32. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who the frick names their son “Kelsey”

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's the name of a sports bar, gay. He was probably conceived there.

  33. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Are the studios just that creatively bankrupt?
    Yes.

  34. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm guessing the actor has alimony bills to pay?

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