Red flag artstyle

I've wanted to make professional cartoons for years, but my drawings always have that red flag look to them. You know, the kind where you could make an educated guess that the artist has a deviantart account full of inflation fetish porn. How do I avoid falling into the pitfalls that makes an artstyle have an autistic and/or furry bad vibe? I'm not totally moronic, I use programs better than MS Paint and I do practise both traditional and digital and push myself outside of my comfort zone, I've read Preston Blair's book and also The Illusion of Life and I'm apparently decent enough to have done a few commissions over the years. But my art still has THAT look to it and I don't know how to get rid of it, it's embarrassing.

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Embrace the cringe, OP

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    how about you show us your art

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the kind where you could make an educated guess that the artist has a deviantart account full of inflation fetish porn.
    What? I don't even know what that means. I don't think the average person will be able to figure that out.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      "This looks like porn. I can tell from some of the pixels, and from seeing quite a few porns in my time."

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        How does it look like porn specifically? That doesn't make sense. Are you drawing suggestive art? If you are then just don't do that

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        seems like OP is talking about the average "toon" style. it's more like a skinwalker toon style

        i recommend stop drawing using cartoons as references and start drawing more from life
        do not draw or design based on exaggerations and caricatures, learn to draw the actual thing and then make it an exaggeration or caricature once you fully understand it

        these autists skip fundamentals and go straight to stylization with zero clue what they're doing, you're breaking the rules of art before you even learned what the rules are and how to break them properly. even if you're reading animation books you're still making the same mistakes by skipping essential steps and that's why your art looks reminiscent of theirs. i can immediately tell from the OP image that if you wanted to draw a skunk, you would look at Pepe Le Pew and other cartoon skunks for reference instead of studying real skunks, that's not how you do stylized art because you're abstracting what's already an abstraction

        look at Bambi's concept art, the artists drew anatomically correct deer, rabbits, skunks etc and developed a style from there, they didn't immediately draw big-eyed funny talking animals based on whatever Mickey Mouse shorts they'd been consuming

        the "bad vibe" is a sloppy, thoughtless, clunkiness, even if your art otherwise looks technically good through great rendering. i have a great example of this but sadly it's forbidden horse show so i can't post it

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've heard this before, and I agree there is a clear monkey-see monkey-do slop factor in cases like your pic related, but the general principle always comes off so... elitist. Did Jim Davis meticulously study realistic cats in order to draw Garfield?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Did Jim Davis meticulously study realistic cats in order to draw Garfield?
            Yes, in fact. He grew up on a farm full of cats.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, but you do need to have actual skill in seeing and expressing the art in your head well first.
            Getting to a baseline isn't that hard, but it does take time. Time that some choose not to spend.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Davis did study art in college, his original career goal was to be an art teacher. Classical animators like Blair, Thomas, and Johnston would have drilled themselves even harder on anatomy. If you're serious about being a professional, you'll have to accept some level of elitism unless you go full outsider like Gary Panter.

            If diving straight into life drawing is too big an ask, art anatomy books can help. I find George Bridgman's work pretty approachable. Another useful investment that's pricier than books but easier to manage than life drawing sessions are replica bones to practice on. Just a skull is good, if you can get a skeletal hand and/or a foot those can also help with the common problem areas.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wait, are you telling me autists have a difficult time comprehending the basic fundamentals of something and end up falling flat on their faces to make uncreative facsimiles of art? I never would have guessed.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's always inflation. Why is it always inflation?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            My leading theory is that since autists latch onto childhood impressions and nearly every child sees big round balloons at some point
            Combine that with saturday morning cartoons and there you go

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              What a sentence, sorry my sleep deprivation is kicking in

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            My leading theory is that since autists latch onto childhood impressions and nearly every child sees big round balloons at some point
            Combine that with saturday morning cartoons and there you go

            Autists are always stunted due to their slower development, they dont process sex as just sex because sex isnt a core aspect of life they've normalized and integrated within themselves, they feel arousal but cant make sense of titilation so they just adscribe it to other signals and sensations familiar to them. Being stuffed with food or bloated is a common one because they relate it as a form of discomfort and tension in need of release, and also as a form of embarrassing exposure. Autists also generally experience anxiety and need things like weighted blankets and tight squeezing to overcome it, inflation can be seen as a visual depiction of that, needing to be squeezed.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well said. Good post.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >anatomically correct
          Ohe of my favorite e6 tags.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            what's your least fav e six tag?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Is there a term for this effect? It seems way too widespread to not have one.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >learn to draw the actual thing and then
          >the artists drew anatomically correct deer, rabbits, skunks etc and developed a style from there
          "First off know how to draw"
          What a ground breaking idea.

          I've heard this before, and I agree there is a clear monkey-see monkey-do slop factor in cases like your pic related, but the general principle always comes off so... elitist. Did Jim Davis meticulously study realistic cats in order to draw Garfield?

          >but the general principle always comes off so... elitist.
          That's because it is.
          No-one who's succeeded will tell you how they did it.
          And everyone who's failed is happy to tell you how to succeed - "first succeed and then you are a success", because they're more ignorant than you.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            t. elitist

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          Autists are always stunted due to their slower development, they dont process sex as just sex because sex isnt a core aspect of life they've normalized and integrated within themselves, they feel arousal but cant make sense of titilation so they just adscribe it to other signals and sensations familiar to them. Being stuffed with food or bloated is a common one because they relate it as a form of discomfort and tension in need of release, and also as a form of embarrassing exposure. Autists also generally experience anxiety and need things like weighted blankets and tight squeezing to overcome it, inflation can be seen as a visual depiction of that, needing to be squeezed.

          Interesting autismo studies.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It means all the characters have been blown up like balloons.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Then, they pop.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well then don't draw the characters blown up like balloons? I don't understand how this is hard to avoid

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    When in doubt, make the eyes bigger.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    We need to see the art first, anon.

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >not posting art
    Pussy

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post art pussy

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Come on, it can't be that bad

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >he fled

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Show up the goods OP. Even a throwaway sketch will do if you're that afraid of revealing yourself. Let's see your implied inflation fetish art.

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    You know OP isn’t going to deliver, right? And that they probably aren’t even an artist? Right?

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Easy. Don’t post furry fetish shit anywhere.
    Nobody fricking cares except you. Just draw.

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Coward

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just have a nice day. The world will be better off with one fewer dog-raping furry.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bad

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop using twitter terms

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Show us an example, please.

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    What do you like to draw the most, OP?

  18. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    release the cringe

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