How could Jason Todd have enough time to become Robin, become familiar with Bruce Wayne, Alfred, and Dick by extension, get killed by The Joker, be brought back to life by Ra's Al Ghul, and then decide to become an evil criminal while Robin is possibly only 15 - 16 in this show?
I don't think the existence of another Robin would slip past him. Perhaps you could have Dick and Jason be like brothers, then Jason dying could be what caused Robin to leave.
I don't think the existence of another Robin would slip past him. Perhaps you could have Dick and Jason be like brothers, then Jason dying could be what caused Robin to leave.
You do know that Dick and Jason did share the robin mantle for a time, right? very briefly, and just a span of a few months in real life, but it was a thing. Partly pushed by Dick spending all his time on the Titans
Red X as a character represents the concept that the consequences of your mistakes live on even after you've learned from them and corrected them. The interpretation presented by actually lines up with what the character means thematically. What is the thematic significance of Red X being Jason Todd?
This makes the most sense. Suit develops a personality, seeks self-preservation, and tries to overcome its father figure/creator (Robin). Kind of like when Terry's Batman suit got overtaken by that weird AI but less creepy.
Pretty much the same arc. Dick Grayson makes this fake persona to test his team, in a later issue it's stolen by an unknown individual. Backstory is only really needed if you plan on a solo run.
In the show he did it to get close to Slade/Deathstroke, but in the comics Deathstroke wasn't really used in that way. So it would need to be reworked.
Right I was misremembering, still I think what I said would work. Dick tries to see if his team can function without him and puts them up against a foe who know how to handle them(that being himself). Leads to a small arc of them mistrusting him, it gets resolved. And a few arcs later introduce someone who stole the suit.
And what if he was? What does that mean? It's the same problem as unmasking Slade. The Titans don't have a life outside of being heroes so what would the reveal matter? It mattered originally because it was Robin abusing the trust of his teammates leaving the reveal to y'know....matter. But if he was revealed to be Jason Todd? What would that actually add in a show that very rarely alludes to the fact that Robin is even Batman's protégé let alone the idea that this was his unmentioned replacement who then died and now came back? What does that actually add other than an easter egg for nerds who care about that shit? Him being a literal who is just as impactful.
Red X was one of Slade's robots that gained sentience. They first appear in the original Red X episode. They last appear as a flashback in the later Red X episode. Slade had all the info he needed to upgrade one into a little robo-Robin. It's obvious.
Hear me out, maybe just maybe he’s a Teen Titan villain and not connected to Batman lore at all. In the 90’s there was a hero/villain that was a train
“Ninja” like Batman and Robin. My guess he’s Slade Wilson’s original son Ravager.g8-
I don't believe the creators made it to really be anyone other than Red X. But if it was to be anyone's cover, I believe it would be someone connected to Slade (one of his children, Rose joins the Teen Titans in the cartoon comics. animated, or a young clone of Slade). It doesn't make sense to be Jason Todd, he doesn't matter to the Titans.
How could Jason Todd have enough time to become Robin, become familiar with Bruce Wayne, Alfred, and Dick by extension, get killed by The Joker, be brought back to life by Ra's Al Ghul, and then decide to become an evil criminal while Robin is possibly only 15 - 16 in this show?
tiem travle
Got recruited at 11, trained by 12, died by 13, revived and trained by 14, go evil at 15
While Dick was still working with Batman?
Why do you think he went Solo? Either getting pushed out, or just found out Batman had another Robin behind his back.
I don't think the existence of another Robin would slip past him. Perhaps you could have Dick and Jason be like brothers, then Jason dying could be what caused Robin to leave.
This and this.
You do know that Dick and Jason did share the robin mantle for a time, right? very briefly, and just a span of a few months in real life, but it was a thing. Partly pushed by Dick spending all his time on the Titans
I didn't know that actually. I guess it could work then.
Red X =/= Red Hood
When people say Red X is Jason Todd, I think it's implied he'd go on a similar path like when he was Red Hood.
Doesn’t matter. Other anon explained Red Hood’s story; this isn’t Red Hood, it’s Red X.
Keep in mind between Jason dying and Red Hood showing up in Gotham all of like 3 years pass. Red Hood Jason is only 19.
It's actually Blackfire.
Imagine unbinding her sweaty breasts after a night of mischief.
It’s Grant Wilson.
these are the most probable impotheses. Jason? no way
Robin clone.
I'm pretty sure Red X is Dick Grayson. He created the identity.
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Red X is the suit itself having come to life.
This.
It's the only interpretation the lines up thematically.
Red X as a character represents the concept that the consequences of your mistakes live on even after you've learned from them and corrected them. The interpretation presented by actually lines up with what the character means thematically. What is the thematic significance of Red X being Jason Todd?
The creators didn't even list that as an opinion in their diagram.
>Thinking BB's joke of a theory list is canon
Also, Red X broke OUT of the vault, not IN.
Is that supposed to be a super monkey team reference?
This makes the most sense. Suit develops a personality, seeks self-preservation, and tries to overcome its father figure/creator (Robin). Kind of like when Terry's Batman suit got overtaken by that weird AI but less creepy.
How would you have introduced him in the comics?
Pretty much the same arc. Dick Grayson makes this fake persona to test his team, in a later issue it's stolen by an unknown individual. Backstory is only really needed if you plan on a solo run.
In the show he did it to get close to Slade/Deathstroke, but in the comics Deathstroke wasn't really used in that way. So it would need to be reworked.
Right I was misremembering, still I think what I said would work. Dick tries to see if his team can function without him and puts them up against a foe who know how to handle them(that being himself). Leads to a small arc of them mistrusting him, it gets resolved. And a few arcs later introduce someone who stole the suit.
No, it's not. He is simply nobody. It was made that way for people to be creating theories.
It's just some random guy.
Best answer by far. Just a common thief that lucked up and found Robin's stash and used the suit to up his game.
Red X should be Dick's son from the future.
Dumpster Fire had a brother?
the mysterious Red X episode first aired on September 4th, 2004
Meanwhile, the "Under the Hood" arc ran from November 2004 to March 2006.
Hush ended in 2003
This take is emblematic of the media illiteracy endemic to fan culture.
And what if he was? What does that mean? It's the same problem as unmasking Slade. The Titans don't have a life outside of being heroes so what would the reveal matter? It mattered originally because it was Robin abusing the trust of his teammates leaving the reveal to y'know....matter. But if he was revealed to be Jason Todd? What would that actually add in a show that very rarely alludes to the fact that Robin is even Batman's protégé let alone the idea that this was his unmentioned replacement who then died and now came back? What does that actually add other than an easter egg for nerds who care about that shit? Him being a literal who is just as impactful.
>an easter egg for nerds who care about that shit?
isn't that all that comics are about?
Red X was one of Slade's robots that gained sentience. They first appear in the original Red X episode. They last appear as a flashback in the later Red X episode. Slade had all the info he needed to upgrade one into a little robo-Robin. It's obvious.
It doesn't matter who Red X is for the same reason it doesn't matter whether Cobb is dreaming at the end of Inception.
It's some random guy.
No foolin'?
Hear me out, maybe just maybe he’s a Teen Titan villain and not connected to Batman lore at all. In the 90’s there was a hero/villain that was a train
“Ninja” like Batman and Robin. My guess he’s Slade Wilson’s original son Ravager.g8-
I don't believe the creators made it to really be anyone other than Red X. But if it was to be anyone's cover, I believe it would be someone connected to Slade (one of his children, Rose joins the Teen Titans in the cartoon comics. animated, or a young clone of Slade). It doesn't make sense to be Jason Todd, he doesn't matter to the Titans.
This page made me realize why I hated Robin in Teen Titans. It's his spiky hair.
Imagine it's actually Jericho and that's the in-series reason he doesn't talk.
>Brick
Who?
a response
Yes
It'd be fun if in one continuity Jason (As Active Robin) did steal the mantle to frick with Nightwing.
That's actually way funnier than it should be and it'll made the race cars episode Way better.
its actually me