>Because of Reloaded I've never seen Revolutions.
same
Revolutions was boring and dumb. The "epic fight sequences" involved hundreds of agent smith clones being fought off by Neo was super boring, and Neo looked like a wooden plank through the whole thing. Were the Wachowskis already trannies by this point? Because Trinity sure looked like one.
the first two were solid and made so much money that the third was mostly a CGI cash grab. there was still some story left to tell so they just decided to wrap it all up with revolutions. it's a shame becuase the franchise could have kept on going if they didn't end it that way.
They were both fricking horrible and destroyed what seemed like an unsinkable franchise. Reloaded is fricking unwatchable and has the worst pacing of any movie. Every scene is so long that you just beg for it to end, whether it's talking or action they both last like four times longer than they should. And let's not start with how shit the story is or how Neo robs the story of all its stakes because he's so blatantly immune to harm. It's shit.
ur ritard
I've argued with you before. Guess what, I'm not taking the bait this time. homosexual.
Your taste is so shit, you obviously eat at the toilet.
Reloaded up to the end of the car chase was an amazing sequel. The third act was a bit shit, granted, but I'm tired of pretending it's anywhere near as dogshit as Revolutions.
"Let's just lock Neo in a subway station for 1/3 of the movie"
Not ideal, but Neo was so OP at that point that to create any tension he had to be shelved.
>"Let's just lock Neo in a subway station for 1/3 of the movie"
FRICKING THIS
GOD I STILL REMEMBER AS A KID WATCHING IT AND WONDERING WHEN THE FRICK IS NEO GOING TO DO SOME CRAZY SHIT >he started to do dbz shit with smith...
I actually really loved the conversation between neo and little Indian girl sati. She was wonderful. She was funny and charming.
Her dad was kino as well
It's feels like there's one epic movie of material and a ton of Zion filler. I wonder if they always just wanted one but those fat suits at WB chomping on cigars and fricking little girls in a pizzeria demanded 2 movies.
It would explain the hatred they have for WB and why 4 was as bad as it was.
i loved Reloaded as a kid, I watched it many more times than the original.
It hasn't held up as well as the original as an adult, but it's still a fun movie.
For some reason, same. Probably was that I saw Reloaded in theaters, and was excited for it. The first movie I was too young to see it when it came out.
I am still mad over the fact the execs forced Wachowskis to change the "machines use humans as extra CPUs" to "machines use humans as batteries" because they thought the audience wouldn't get it. Matrix is almost perfect but this ruins it for me a bit. My headcanon is that the machines fed Morpheus and others wrong information.
Holy shit I didn’t know that, that would make somewhat more sense because there would be a million more easier ways to simply get energy.
Most simply nuclear energy. But even if they only could rely on bio energy, farm animals like cows would’ve been so much easier, create much more energy, and don’t need a matrix.
Brain is a wetware using analog signal to run its software. It is specialized in specific types of computation that are not efficient on a digital sillicon chip.
Brain is a wetware using analog signal to run its software. It is specialized in specific types of computation that are not efficient on a digital sillicon chip.
In Three Body Problem, there was a part where the speed of light was reduced, and the spaceship had to switch to an analog brain computer to work. But that didn't even make sense to me, tbh.
Thermodynamically, the battery idea doesn't even work. To keep the humans alive, you must input more energy into each individual than you could ever extract. It would never work.
Keep in mind everything you know about thermodynamics you would have learned from the matrix itself. Wouldn't it try to convince you it wouldn't be possible for itself to exist?
Complete nonsense. In the animatrix you can see how the machines use humans as batteries to power their reaper drones. The giant robots use humans as batteries right after the nano cloud renders solar power impossible.
Eventually the machines dont "need" humans as batteries, but they do so anyways. Want to know why? Out of spite.
>Eventually the machines dont "need" humans as batteries, but they do so anyways. Want to know why? Out of spite.
Not spite. It's simply a means of control. Less random variables.
It's nonsense. You need more energy to feed the humans than the humans give back. The only reason that would make sense is if the machines wanted to make human soldiers apprehensive about bombing their drones.
Aside from making more sense, it would allow to add more interesting details to the lore. Like maybe dreams are the Matrix doing calculations with your brain.
Smith entering the real world was kino. Blind Neo being able to see Smith was kino. The moment they fly above the clouds is kino. Trinity's death is kino, and Neo's deal with the machines was kino. The Oracle seeing the sunrise made for Neo was kino. The music was fricking kino. Smith's dialogue is always kino.
Its some of the most hauntingly brutal worldbuilding and its incredible science fiction. The problem is that most people saw the Matrix and ironically never understand that its just a surface level simulation. The real story of the matrix is much deeper.
The problem is that most people saw the Matrix and ironically never understand that its just a surface level simulation. The real story of the matrix is much deeper.
Eh I don't think the real world/Zion/Machine City is supposed to be simulated. The One is supposed to be magical and having powers outside of the matrix gives the audience a "holy shit" moment like Morpheus had at the end of the fist movie
Because of Reloaded I've never seen Revolutions.
>Because of Reloaded I've never seen Revolutions.
same
Revolutions was boring and dumb. The "epic fight sequences" involved hundreds of agent smith clones being fought off by Neo was super boring, and Neo looked like a wooden plank through the whole thing. Were the Wachowskis already trannies by this point? Because Trinity sure looked like one.
the first two were solid and made so much money that the third was mostly a CGI cash grab. there was still some story left to tell so they just decided to wrap it all up with revolutions. it's a shame becuase the franchise could have kept on going if they didn't end it that way.
>ended
Um, sweaty, they made another movie.
revolutions came out 6 months after reloaded
And the movie exists because WB wanted it to. And they want money.
>mom I want to see morpheus
>we have morpheus at home
Sub-100 IQ post
'Reloaded' was exceptional. It took the crown from 'Terminator 2: Judgement Day' as the best sequel ever made.
Revolutions was gay.
i like my best ever sequels to have less gay rave scenes and more than 2 great action moments.
i like the second one but its not really great.
They were both fricking horrible and destroyed what seemed like an unsinkable franchise. Reloaded is fricking unwatchable and has the worst pacing of any movie. Every scene is so long that you just beg for it to end, whether it's talking or action they both last like four times longer than they should. And let's not start with how shit the story is or how Neo robs the story of all its stakes because he's so blatantly immune to harm. It's shit.
You are so moronic, holy shit.
ur ritard
I've argued with you before. Guess what, I'm not taking the bait this time. homosexual.
Your taste is so shit, you obviously eat at the toilet.
Reloaded up to the end of the car chase was an amazing sequel. The third act was a bit shit, granted, but I'm tired of pretending it's anywhere near as dogshit as Revolutions.
yep. actually had realism too. trinity used a real hacking tool and technique in the movie to shut down the power grid.
"Let's just lock Neo in a subway station for 1/3 of the movie"
Not ideal, but Neo was so OP at that point that to create any tension he had to be shelved.
>"Let's just lock Neo in a subway station for 1/3 of the movie"
FRICKING THIS
GOD I STILL REMEMBER AS A KID WATCHING IT AND WONDERING WHEN THE FRICK IS NEO GOING TO DO SOME CRAZY SHIT
>he started to do dbz shit with smith...
It was 25 minutes, anon.
don't bother arguing with disingenuous morons
I actually really loved the conversation between neo and little Indian girl sati. She was wonderful. She was funny and charming.
Her dad was kino as well
Both Reloaded and Revolutions suffered from padding, should have been one movie
It's feels like there's one epic movie of material and a ton of Zion filler. I wonder if they always just wanted one but those fat suits at WB chomping on cigars and fricking little girls in a pizzeria demanded 2 movies.
It would explain the hatred they have for WB and why 4 was as bad as it was.
i loved Reloaded as a kid, I watched it many more times than the original.
It hasn't held up as well as the original as an adult, but it's still a fun movie.
>watching trans allegories as an impressionable child
Explains a lot about your generation.
What were the trans allegories?
They were never there. gays just retcon everything to be gay
For some reason, same. Probably was that I saw Reloaded in theaters, and was excited for it. The first movie I was too young to see it when it came out.
Every kid liked reloaded more than the first. The action scenes were much better. The first one is a movie for adults
I am still mad over the fact the execs forced Wachowskis to change the "machines use humans as extra CPUs" to "machines use humans as batteries" because they thought the audience wouldn't get it. Matrix is almost perfect but this ruins it for me a bit. My headcanon is that the machines fed Morpheus and others wrong information.
Holy shit I didn’t know that, that would make somewhat more sense because there would be a million more easier ways to simply get energy.
Most simply nuclear energy. But even if they only could rely on bio energy, farm animals like cows would’ve been so much easier, create much more energy, and don’t need a matrix.
>machines use humans as extra CPUs
I never got how that would work though.
Brain is a wetware using analog signal to run its software. It is specialized in specific types of computation that are not efficient on a digital sillicon chip.
In Three Body Problem, there was a part where the speed of light was reduced, and the spaceship had to switch to an analog brain computer to work. But that didn't even make sense to me, tbh.
Thermodynamically, the battery idea doesn't even work. To keep the humans alive, you must input more energy into each individual than you could ever extract. It would never work.
Keep in mind everything you know about thermodynamics you would have learned from the matrix itself. Wouldn't it try to convince you it wouldn't be possible for itself to exist?
I do like the implication that an individual human is as useless as a small battery. Makes an individual look insignificant to the system.
It's weird they didn't retcon it in the sequels.
>Neo: You need human beings to survive
>Architect: We don't. We never did.
Complete nonsense. In the animatrix you can see how the machines use humans as batteries to power their reaper drones. The giant robots use humans as batteries right after the nano cloud renders solar power impossible.
Eventually the machines dont "need" humans as batteries, but they do so anyways. Want to know why? Out of spite.
>Eventually the machines dont "need" humans as batteries, but they do so anyways. Want to know why? Out of spite.
Not spite. It's simply a means of control. Less random variables.
Why not kill them off?
It's nonsense. You need more energy to feed the humans than the humans give back. The only reason that would make sense is if the machines wanted to make human soldiers apprehensive about bombing their drones.
Aside from making more sense, it would allow to add more interesting details to the lore. Like maybe dreams are the Matrix doing calculations with your brain.
The Matrix 3 is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. I saw it in the theater and it ruined my day.
The overreliance on CGI for fight scenes ruined the Matrix for me.
Smith entering the real world was kino. Blind Neo being able to see Smith was kino. The moment they fly above the clouds is kino. Trinity's death is kino, and Neo's deal with the machines was kino. The Oracle seeing the sunrise made for Neo was kino. The music was fricking kino. Smith's dialogue is always kino.
Each movie has a lot of good stuff in it.
fricking this, the sequels were good damn it, they just needed more time in the oven.
The Matrix is a 10/10 stand alone movie, BUT:
>watch Animatrix
>watch reloaded
>watch revolutions
Its some of the most hauntingly brutal worldbuilding and its incredible science fiction. The problem is that most people saw the Matrix and ironically never understand that its just a surface level simulation. The real story of the matrix is much deeper.
Wat is it
Please explain
Animatrix
reloaded
revolutions
The problem is that most people saw the Matrix and ironically never understand that its just a surface level simulation. The real story of the matrix is much deeper.
Deeper how?
Matrix within the matrix?
Are you moronic?
Yes, I farted on my balls
Eh I don't think the real world/Zion/Machine City is supposed to be simulated. The One is supposed to be magical and having powers outside of the matrix gives the audience a "holy shit" moment like Morpheus had at the end of the fist movie
He's Jesus Christ for the robots, he can see their souls and he dies for their sins.
reloaded ruined zion but I don't dislike it that much besides that. revolutions is a boring slog.
We don't talk about Resurrections.
The sequels were schlock
http://matrixresolutions.com/
Agreed. The second act of Reloaded is pure kino.
i watched the highway scene like 200 times
Never got this meme. Reloaded and Revolutions are 10x better than any movie released in the last 10 years.
There's a fan edit that combines the best parts of both. I've been meaning to watch it for over a decade.