>Replace Toph with Azula
>Replace Helga with Gerald
>Vlad isn't playable
>Characters can only interact with characters from the same show
>Any and all crossover interactions will be done with NPCs
So what are Nickelodeon fans thinking of NASB2?
Grandma spotlight too i guess.
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I’m gonna wait until after any dlc drops before I considering getting this game, that’s what I think, and that dlc better be free.
>free dlc
DLC and ebucks is the only reason they're getting a budget bigger than a tin can for this.
Vlad and Shredder allegedly have fully fleshed out movesets but are unplayable regardless
Gonna copy/paste what was said earlier on Cinemaphile.
There are 6 bosses. The confirmed bosses being Vlad, Shredder, Flying Dutchman, Sartana of the Dead, an unnamed second SpongeBob boss and an unnamed boss from an unknown show.
The way bosses work is that they'll just hang out in the background until they're ready to fight.
Now this next part is a doozy.
Vlad and Shredder have fully functional movesets but aren't playable, only bosses.
Their movesets are so functional that play testers got confused on if they were actually playable or not.
It's unknown if Shredder was going to be playable.
But at some point Vlad was going to be playable.
The way the Danny Phantom choices were decided on has been described as "messy" due to Danny, Vlad and Ember being juggled around on who the two Danny Phantom characters should be.
For some reason Danny Phantom has a two characters limit, the show couldn't have all three characters.
This cause the Danny Phantom representation to be all over the place, with Danny himself being on the chopping block and was considered to be cut from the roster in favor for Vlad and Ember being the two Danny Phantom characters.
This happened multiple times until the devs settled on Danny and Ember being the two Danny Phantom characters.
This is most likely why Vlad has his own moveset, due to being considered playable multiple times to the point insiders and play testers got so confused on his playable status.
This character limit per franchise thing might also effect every other show and might be the reason for characters getting cut in favor of newcomers, such as Sandy, Toph and Helga.
Vlad and Shredder, despite having fully functional movesets, are highly unlikely to be DLC.
There's also no plans for any free DLC so if Vlad and Shredder were to make it in they'd be paid DLC.
why does this shit make me irrationally angry
Because it's israelite moneygrubbing standing in the way of the team's artistic vision.
>Implying there's an artistic vision
Ludosity made these games. They are a relatively small indie group (less than 10 I think). They made slap city before the first Nick game, so they definitely give a shit about platform fighters. Sure, it will never be Smash but I believe that the devs really wanted to do their best on this. Those guys were rushed super hard on the first game. Slap City was really a fun as frick game and they put so much weird cool bullshit into that game. Ittle Dew was a cool series too.
Thank Thaddeus for ruining this game's reputation
Thaddeus did nothing wrong.
>t. Thaddeus
I'm Thaddeus btw
>dating a troony
Remar and Regn care about platform fighters but they didn't work on NASB.
All Thaddeus wants to do is outdo Smash competitively and he just has the best opportunity to do it.
It doesn't matter what company's characters he's allowed to use as long as he can make it competitive.
This is gay in every single sense and meaning of the word.
Are they limiting franchises and removing fan favorites despite having finished movesets to avoid Smash Fire Emblem complaints?
The exact reason is unknown.
The main complaint of Fire Emblem in Smash is that
most of their fighters a clone of Marth.
If not,
has a down special counter.
if not,
a sword user in general.
If not,
boring and uninteresting.
if not,
anime as hell.
Yeah, which shouldn't be a problem at all for NASB, worrying about moveset clones for a game with a roster like this is so odd.
Every FE character has a sword and only two of them doesn't have a counter.
This most smash gays hate ALL the anime type characters they hate hero, cloud, pyra etc FE just has the most anime characters so they are the focus
Hero is cool and Cloud is part of the biggest problem plaguing Smash DLCs, the lack of Nintendo connection. I just find it baffling Fire Emblem gets so many slots, more than Zelda and also so many clones when it's a series with multiple classes.
even with different movesets they all play similar and have uninspired attacks. just disjoint spam.
all valid complains.
>This much conflict between Danny Phantom (the main protagonist) Vlad Plasmius (the main antagonist) and Ember (a one-episode antagonist) and who to keep on / add to / drop from the roster due to a (arbitrary) 2 fighter limit.
I don't know why, but I find this little tidbit to be EXTREMELY telling.
>bit to be EXTREMELY telling
what do you mean?
>Only two characters allowed.
>have to choose between THE MAIN villain, a minor villain and the MAIN HERO
>they chose the minor villain over the main one
>the main hero (who the shows is named after) wasn't even guaranteed
how can you even ask "what do you mean?"; can you not see the problem?
They choose correctly. I don't see a problem.
ember is only good for porn bait, and even in that regard vlad is still superior to her.
They should have went with the actual main villain.
It'd be like if Smash added Twinrova over Ganondorf.
But it's not, Ganondorf isn't the big bad of Smash. The big bad of smash is a player's right hand.
The frick are you talking about? I'm not talking about Vlad's role as NASB2's boss, i'm talking about Vlad's role as the main villain of Danny Phantom like how Ganondorf is the main villain of Zelda.
Ember's at least fairly prominent for a minor villain, I remember her appearing in more than just one episode, and she's well liked in the fandom, they could've made a much worse pick for their second DP character than her.
Imagine they added Tucker as the second rep
God that would've been horrible.
Yes, but she's not as big as Vlad.
>they could've made a much worse pick for their second DP character than her.
could they have? garbage one off episode villain is about as low as you can go for danny phantom rep. Ember seriously isn't shit, even desiree is more prominent. they could have added someone that actually shows up like Maddie or Box Ghost.
No there's way fricking worse. Ember appeared in multiple episodes and has standout popularity. The idea that Box Ghost would be better is fricking stupid and is telling just how spiteful you are.
Ember only has 3 episodes.
Actually Box Ghost would be a cleaver gag character.
No the frick he wouldn't. You would've been b***hing endlessly over him being included before Vlad you liar. You frickers hate meme picks don't start pretending that THIS meme pick is magically good for you, contrarian.
This, if anything people would b***h more about Box Ghost than they would about Ember.
Not really? I don't see anyone on reddit b***hing about Lucy Loud being and Lincoln isn't.
Lucy Loud is one of the most popular characters in the Loud House, Box Ghost is a joke villain who isn't anywhere close to her level within the DP fanbase.
Ember is mega popular just like Lucy. Box Ghost is a gag character and known for his gags more than anything.
I wouldn't really call Ember "mega popular" nowadays.
People care more about her connection to Randy than they care about her as a character.
False. Ember was one of if not the most requested Danny Phantom inclusion on the polls.
How many of those voter actual fans of Ember and how many of them just wanted to meme on Randy?
What the hell kind of accusation is this, most people don't even know about Randy.
Tell that to all the Randy posters who memed him after Ember got announced.
And i'm not even talking about Cinemaphile. The replies on Twitter exploded in Randy content.
And how many of these people also happen to be Danny Phantom fans? And how many would still care about or remember this guy in the years after he shot his brains out?
>And how many of these people also happen to be Danny Phantom fans?
Nig enough fans to be so deep into the fandom iceberge that they know about Randy.
>And how many would still care about or remember this guy in the years after he shot his brains out?
Enough to, like i said, cause the Twitter replies to explode in Randy content.
I think you're overestimating the influence a dead obscure shooter has on a cartoon character from a show that has fans everywhere.
How come anime fans never do this shit?
The frick am I supposed to that I'm a fan of both, how should I know?
Here, read the Twitter replies yourself,
https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1699786415209635854
https://twitter.com/GameSpot/status/1699786415209635854/quotes
Well, that fricks with my perception of how many of her fans aren't aware of Randy.
Was she more popular than Vlad? Why do people have such shit taste.
Hot rocky goth chick that's also a ghost with powers go crazy.
Why are you so mad?
>Box Ghost over Ember
This would not have gone over as well as you think it would.
As the guy who made the Danny Phantom villain list by how much they appeared not counting cameos i should let you know that this isn't true, although i understand why you feel this way for reasons i'll get to.
You see, Ember has been used in 6 episodes while Desiree has only been used in 4.
But in Ember's case she was only the primary antagonist in one of her episodes while the other two episodes where she's the antagonist she shares the spotlight with other antagonists, one where she's the least prominent of the two villains playing second fiddle to Youngblood and the other where she's sharing the role with Kitty and Penelope Spectra while Skulker gets the spotlight to himself in the B plot.
Desiree on the other hand is the sole antagonist of two of the episodes she appears in sharing the spotlight with no one else.
Technus, who has just as many episodes as Ember, has much more screen time as her for this reason as well as out of his 6 episodes he's the sole antagonist in 4 of them. And just all around had more and bigger cameos.
You know full well they only picked Ember because she's a goth girl and has the Randy memes behind her. b***h didn't even have a showcase yet.
According to a play tester this is because neither Ember or Danny has footage recorded for their spotlights.
I guess this might be because of how unsure the Danny Phantom characters were going to be.
this. Why in the absolute frick are they so obsessed with adding this side villain ? The only logic that I found is that they are either chronic masturbators or they wanted to troll nick by adding a character known for the association with a shooter...or both
Ember is a goth chick.
I'm just gonna wait for definite confirmation about this stuff
>There are 6 bosses. The confirmed bosses being Vlad, Shredder, Flying Dutchman, Sartana of the Dead, an unnamed second SpongeBob boss and an unnamed boss from an unknown show.
I have a feeling Morag will be a boss in the loud castle stage.
See
I still don't get why they don't just make Arnold playable at this point.
can only interact with characters from the same show
>>Any and all crossover interactions will be done with NPCs
The frick, why?
OP has severe autism.
New Angry Beavers render.
God-tier reaction image
OH FRICK YEAH
you forgot
>people said it felt weird having only two turtles in the first game
>put the other 2 in the sequel and cut the first two
these devs are fricking moronic cutting helga and leo, lincoln and mikey were huge mistakes, just because it makes your choices look weird . oblina, and cat dog are big mistakes but you can argue that there had to be some cuts, toph replaced with azula is dumb, hugh is a slap in the face to the fanbase, ptm is understandable, sandy is an ass backwards cut, if april wasn't still playable shredder being cut would make sense.
they hurt the game with this horrible roster, the only thing they can do is just promise a free update with leo mikey, lincoln helga, toph, hugh and cat dog as those are the ones people mostly take offence too oblina ptm, sandy can remain cut only because no one is really annoyed they were cut sandy at best people are saying its weird they cut her
>if april wasn't still playable shredder being cut would make sense
Assuming that everything said in
is true then i bet Shredder was planned on being playable at some point but they used April instead.
but why though, why are they so fricking adamant about including april, she would be the first choice I make when it comes to cuts
Feminism and diversity.
They didn't have a choice, they're not making free updates for characters like those.
They did have a choice.
At the end of the day they chose what characters to cut.
they only said nick requested gertie, everyone else feels like a choice they would make, remember these are the devs that didn't do all 4 turtles in the first game just because people expected it. They also wanted the reps to be leo mikey, april and fricking rocksteady
It's been leaked by insiders that they had limited character slots per series.
thats been the case since the first game, they said they were given 4 slots for tmnt, and they decided not to use them for all 4 turtles that is not an excuse
Judging by Shredder's functional moveset despite being a boss i assume he was going to be the fourth TMNT character as well but cut him to be a boss for some reason.
They were given 3 for TMNT in the sequel.
we don't know that, and I fricking doubt it when every other nick dev has always been given 4
There's no proof of this.
The only character limit for a show we know about is Danny Phantom only being allowed two and we have no idea why that is.
I would have much rather had "the turtles" as one slot (like how injustice 2 technically just has Leo but all the bros are part of the moveset) and used the other slots for other characters.
That’s not how injustice does it each turtle has their own move set they just take up one slot moron. Ed boon even said we couldn’t just do one turtle we had to do them all
the turtles in injustice actually share the vast majority of animations. it's really noticeable once you realize just how few attacks involve their weapons.
Learn how to combo literally all their strings use their weapons the only moves they share are their openers
I bet Rocksteady is gonna be DLC.
To be honest, if it was up to me, there would have been zero TMNT characters.
Really, a game about Nicktoon characters should be about Nicktoons, The TMNT (especially ones before 2012) just aren't "Nicktoons". Their priority should have been Nickelodeon first and any other "special cases" as secret unlockables or downloadables, not on the base roster or even on the boxart.
And this is coming from someone who don't dislike the Turtles.
Paramount paid a ton of money to own the turtles lol they are a nick ip and there second most profitable behind Garfield no exec would agree to a nick game with out them
Integrity over star power.
I'm dissapointed Oblina/Iggy/Krum weren't Pokemon Trainer esque characters where you could switch between them during battle.
Going off what was said on Cinemaphile, it doesn't matter what supposed "negativity" and "shit talk" there is. NASB and NASB 2 has and always will have more attention and fans than shovelware like Nicktoons Unite. The bullshit narrative of "not being a good Nickelodeon game" is fricking bullshit when thre's been all sorts of inferior garbage Nick games that the fans ate up anyway. Max was never a diehard Nick fan, he even said time and again that he outgrew the program and lacked a noticeable amount of passion to the characters. He only played NASB and none of the other licensed Nick games because it's a fighting game. He's not a diehard Nickelodeon fan and it's moronic to try and push that narrative about him.
Oh boy, it's this shill again.
Don't you ever get tired of ranting at people all for nothing?
I know these threads stress you out so why even show up?
Your behavior is self destructive at this point.
Project harder why don't you? I'm not a fricking shill nor do you morons stress me out. Calling out bullshit and aggressive language is par for the course of Cinemaphile. Are you new here?
From what i'm seeing you're the one being aggressive in both behavior and language.
Again, par for the course on Cinemaphile, moron. I can call out dumb bullshit if I want to.
From where i'm standing your the only one in this thread handing out dumb bullshit.
Only a moronic homosexual like you would call perfectly fair points "dumb bullshit". Keep on lying to yourself.
Fair points? All you've done is insult me.
You keep calling me a shill and making stuff up about me.
Well if you don't want to be called a shill then you shouldn't get so pissed off at everyone with a negative opinion of the game.
I'm not pissed! I'm opposing points and false claims made against the game.
And how is that working for you so far?
MY FRICKING MAIN GOT REPLACED
Calling now. If there's a NASB3 the four TMNT characters are going to be Leo, Raph, Bebop and Rocksteady.
My one and only real beef is that none of the new characters besides plankton seem to be heavyweights. I like big fricks that hit hard, if im just going to end up playing jenny and reptar again I dont see point it in getting it
>Characters can only interact with characters from the same show
I'm gonna need confirmation of this
New renders leaked.
The frick is wrong with his face kek.
Heeeeere's Raphy!
Just saying, Lucy fricking loves ghosts and spooky crap. Danny is a ghost. Vlad is a ghost who borders on being a vampire. The fact she's not going to interact with Danny or Vlad outside punching them is... chaotically frustrating.
>Lincoln also loves ghosts and ghost hunting and doesn't get to fight ghosts with his baby sister because reasons.
Seething! This really is a pyrrhic victory.
>Vlad is a ghost who borders on being a vampire.
Fun fact.
In early production of the show Vlad was going to be a vampire.
This explains his name being Vlad, a reference to Vlad the Impaler, Plasmius, a reference to blood.
Vlad was turned into another half ghost like Danny when Nickelodeon went to Butch Hartman telling him that having a vampire would be "too occult" and Butch agreed.
>Nickelodeon balks at a vampire VILLAIN for being too occult for the kiddies
>10-15 years later, most popular sister in second biggest show is nothing but a vampire-obsessive who openly practices black, often Satanic magic on screen, Nick decides to cück their MC as a rep for the game in lieu of her
Are you sure we don't live in a simulation meant to frick with in particular?
I honestly believe keeping Lucy over Lincoln is a dev decision.
I think it was pretty much confirmed that Lucy stayed because one of the devs campaigned to keep her in the sequel
The dev campaigned for her even in NASB1 and he isn't even one of the developers.
Remar campaigning for Lucy is entirely unsurprising.
Who cares about a boy with a yo-yo? We need the goth girl!
It's probably a 1-2 punch
>Network's internal polling revealed that Lucy's actually crazy popular among kids (picrel)
>Devs prefer Lucy much more than Lincoln, game devs generally prefer goth/alternative girls
> Boomer player base ignore Lincoln almost universally, try out Lucy much more often because "hey, vampire girl"
>Devs want Jimmy Neutron, who has a more interesting moveset, and decide to sacrifice Lincoln to do it
>Nick okay with that because Lincoln's a main character, at no risk of losing popularity, but also want to get Lucy in to capitalize on her rising popularity, devs more than happy
If Lucy wasn't as popular with kids and Boomers as she is, we'd probably have lost Lincoln and Lucy and gotten Gaz instead
>we'd probably have lost Lincoln and Lucy and gotten Gaz instead
Sad thing is that there probably wasn't a timeline where we could've gottenLincoln and Jimmy precisely because of Ludosity's autism about making all the characters fill a unique niche since both are just boys. I'd have liked Lincoln and Gaz, but the devs and Gen X ("Boomer") playerbase wanted Jimmy Neutron and can't even begin to care less about Lincoln. Lose-lose for Lincolnbros, and Lucybros want their Lincoln in, so we're just going to have to wait for him to come back in via DLC (hopefully with other Loud House reps too)
Honestly i doubt we'd gotten Gaz considering Lucy is the only goth girl Remar is interested in.
In fact Loud House is the only Nickelodeon show he has ever watched.
He also mentioned TMNT but i doubt it's any of the Nickelodeon TMNT.
>In fact Loud House is the only Nickelodeon show he has ever watched.
What?
Not terribly surprised, honestly. When I was growing up, I almost exclusively watched Cartoon Network or the international channel.
I didn't start watching stuff on Disney or Nickelodeon until I was in college catching up on shows I missed that everyone was gushing about all nostalgically.
I never used the history channel like you anon.
You never fapped to Hitler during History Channel's WW2 documentary phase?
No, I only remember History Channel's fascination with alien shows.
That Azula isn't real right? It looks like one of those fanmade porn models. Also don't remember her ever having painted nails in the show.
It's real.
Shredder boss render.
Still waiting for this guy to join Mortal Kombat.
As brutal as the comics can get, only the comics are allowed that level of violence. Probably afraid other portrayals of any Turtles characters will cannibalize merch sales from angry parents.as no one reads comics of course
So Shredder is a never ever. Your best bet would be Injustice 3.
Ah, the curse of The Mask.
That would’ve been true, but Activision begs to differ
All the renders are getting leaked now.
At this point we'll know every single boss and NPC before the night is over.
Where are they getting leaked?
Reddit and Discord.
I thought Reddit banned the leaks.
They only banned campaign story leaks (As if there's any story to it) not render leaks.
But the leakers are getting in trouble with Reddit mods as we speak as they have revealed through Discord.
GOTTA CUT THEM ALL
And nothing of value was lost
>nothing of value
>Michelangelo, Toph, Powdered Toast Man, Leonardo, Sandy, Oblina
Frick off.
Feels like the cuts were chosen at random.
i KNEEL, reptar and nigel are BETTER than your favorite character.
>Lincoln gets cut
>Lucy stays
Lincolnbros....
We won, but at what cost?
>no brother or other reps in game
>#1 sister, but for all the wrong reasons
>goth qt trapped in a dysfunctional and doomed franchise
Just cancel it and sell it back to Savino.
Even if they cancel it, Nick will furiously hold the rights.
Look at Making Fiends
>creator makes a bunch of videos on youtube with her characters
>nickelodeon comes a knocking and makes a deal with her to turn her youtube series into one for television
>show gets one season made and a couple episodes are played on the main channel
>then it's shoved on to nicktoons where nobody watched it and it never got any advertisement
>immediately cancelled
>creator can't do anything new with her characters because nick has all the rights
>all she can do is make hd versions of the videos already on youtube
>has to move on
Nickelodeon's a terrible network when it comes to this stuff. The only reason the Loud House is so successful and enduring is more because of Nick's problems catching up to them and they desperately needed ANY win they could get. If Nickelodeon wasn't in such a dire state by 2016 or still in one right now, TLH would've probably been canceled after Savinogate.
They sold Winx Club.
Paramount only owned 30% of the stake to Rainbow S.p.A, the makers of Winx Club, but earlier this year they got into a fight with the founder and owner of Rainbow, Iginio Straffi, over creative differences so they just sold their 30% stake back to him. Although this does not effect all the Nickelodeon seasons Of Winx Club as all the Nick produced seasons are still owned by Paramount.
You mean the sex offender?
>t. Cartoon Brew.
>t. Savino Dexter fanboy
bump
Why? So he can make more episodes of Lincoln wanting something decent and then getting fricked in the ass because of it?
How much autistic cartoon reviewers do you watch?
Sartana of the Dead boss render.
Leaker just spoke on Discord.
They're done leaking for the night.
The codename for the first DLC character is Stevia. Stevia is used in diet sodas and a diet soda grenade is one of Tuesday X's weapons.
Not sure if real, but it got deleted along with the other renders.
god, i fricking wish
A new leaker has come out to start leaking more renders.
>Gerald's hair isn't a style
>It's actually his weird fricking head
I didn't know this. I didn't want to know this. I hate this. I want off this ship.
Why else would be hang around with Arnold?
Hey Arnold is a show full of oddly shaped people, but the creator somehow manage to design characters that are appealing enough that technical flaws are ignored.
It's one of those shows that uses its two dimensions to it's full advantage and would falter a bit or more if given a third.
*flashbacks to Ed Edd n Eddy: The Mis-Edventures
They tried, goddammit
I’d cut all the Avatar characters just because.
>the devs love the tmnt that’s why there is so much care put into them
>no moves from the show
>Only 2 turtles
>aprils completely made up move set
Why did people think the devs liked it exactly
We ALL know what they really liked about TMNT
Feminism.
you know it's weird. they're all about feminism and feminism accessories, but they simultaneously ignore the nicktoons with female leads or female co-leads;
As Told By Ginger,
The Wild Thornberrys,
The Mighty B!,
It's Pony,
(technically) Pig Goat Banana Cricket,
(technically) Glitch Tech,
(technically) The Casagrandes,
and others like
Monster High,
Kablam,
Middle School Moguls,
Wonder Park,
Making Fiends,
and even
Winx Club,
or Dora the Explorer.
My Life as a Teenage Robot wasn't even in the base roster in the first game and I bet The Legend of Korra was a mere after thought.
Making Fiends being added I could see causing backlash due to what Nick did to the creator.
Monster High isn't owned by Nickelodeon, they just got the rights from Mattel to make a movie and a cartoon for Paramount+.
They don't own Winx Club anymore and Dora is a mess of rights and regulations.
They should add Bobby.
Explain Dora.
Originally as ViacomCBS, then they
renamed it Paramount.
Yes.
You forgot Lincoln.
>Wonder Park,
The movie was such a disaster that the show got quietly cancelled.
>Winx Club
Paramount gave all the rights it bought from Rainbow Studio back to its creator after getting into a fight over creative differences.
>Making Fiends
This and Stick Stickly were my personal never evers when they announced the first game and it'd disappointing neither game has an off the wall pick like Smash. Garfield is the closest and even that's just promo for the upcoming show.
I would say Gertie, Hugh, and Nigel are all off the wall picks.
I'll give you Gertie, I don't think anyone expected that one, but Nigel and Hugh are both really popular so I wouldn't call them off the wall. If you had to do a Wild Thornsberrys rep, Nigel's your best bet and after Jimmy, Hugh's the only real pick unless you want to throw Sheen in there. They're goofy but not in the way picks like Piranha Plant or Little Mac are. Off the wall to me would be adding Paul from the production company logo.
Jimmy Neutron has Ultra-Lord, King Goobot, Profesor Calamitus, Cindy, Goddard, and Bolbi
Also Sheen and Beautiful Gorgeous.
Not that Anon but people like Hugh and Nigel for the memes not for the characters.
>Hugh and Nigel for the memes not for the characters.
I know, that's what I meant by them being popular, they're not really unexpected picks because they're some of the only things people bring up in casual conversation if you've never seen either show. They're wacky picks, sure, but it's exactly the kind of thing you'd do if you're trying to appeal to a general audience.
Yeah, but if you're limited to one like they seem to be here, it makes sense to pick the meme man even if it's a goofy choice overall.
Prior to him being in Smash, they hadn't done anything with him in years and people argued against his inclusion because "He just punches", his game is also not very popular in Japan, they were baffled he was included at all. I wanted him, but I didn't expect it because he didn't really have a lot working for him.
>after Jimmy, Hugh's the only real pick unless you want to throw Sheen in there.
Spoken like someone who never watched the show, only the memes.
how is Mac an off the wall pick ?, he is one of the few retro reps who isn't a one off and added a completely new fighting style to the game
Not that Anon but Mac isn't retro since they used his Punch Out Wii design.
Look at all that feminism in her yellow pants
We got news from the source of the renders on who the sixth mystery boss is.
It's going to be Clockwork from Danny Phantom.
That's random. I don't think he even fought in the show.
Honestly, some characters who've never fought make for the greatest fighting characters because it feels like a missed opportunity and you just want to know "what if"
AHEM.
Name one.
It should be the retired slime logo, able to shapeshift into different forms.
That's not a bad idea and I'm not surprised Nick doesn't have the hindsight to consider that.
Wasn't the most evil Danny Phantom character was Dark Danny?
He was until the comic redeemed him.
He didn't. All he did was just send other dark future characters to kill Danny to prevent the dark future.
Clockwork isn't even evil, he's just a guy who's sole purpose is to protect the timeline and is an ally to Danny after Dark Danny is defeated.
Feels like the devs never watched the show.
He could be a good guy that fought them to try and restore peace to the fricked up crossover timeline. We don't know the context of why he's a boss.
Leaker said CatDog and Oblina are getting back in as DLC.
Makes sense. It'd explain why the DLC is mediocre and why they're absent from the base game.
Which one do I believe?
Never fricking mind then.
Here's Jimmy.
Leaker confirmed that cut characters are not returning. All DLC are newcomers.
Where's TIMMY?
>All DLC are newcomers.
This is an outrage. I want my Lincoln back.
SHE'S IN
Another Ember?
>Leaker confirmed that cut characters are not returning. All DLC are newcomers.
I'm out.
>Leaker confirmed that cut characters are not returning.
And I've officially lost interest. Cutting characters from the previous installment is always bullshit, no exceptions, and they cut roughly half the roster. Frick this.
>
Him and Mikey Simon are still my most wanted.
>basically the entire appeal of crossover media is seeing all the different characters interacting with each other
>the only games to do this in a satisfactory way have been Super Smash Bros Brawl's Subspace Emissary mode and Playstation All-Stars of all things
Subspace Emissary was autistic, all the characters weren’t actually the characters and just “trophies” of themselves pantomiming for no reason despite plenty characters having spoken voicelines in the game. I vastly prefer the routes taken in Smash 4 and Ultimate of just putting as much as they can in it and having some cute moments of interaction (World of Light, Palutena’s Guidance) over stupid attempts at overbloated yet still compromised story modes. Punch Time Explosion also did this as well as be a terrible playing game.
>Subspace Emissary was autistic
And that's why it was beautiful.
The autism is what makes it work
Why does God hate crossovers?
Smash Bros has grown so large that it'll never have a crossover story due to how much manpower it'll require
All they have to do is cut out all of meme characters like Min-Min, Duck Hunt, and Marth.
cut-out all of the characters that have little to no or only recent history with Nintendo like Cloud, Joker, Terry, Kazuya, Sephiroth, and Lucas*
good, crossover stories are shit
the trailers are fun enough
>cutgays
Multiverse for all its faults nailed the interaction aspect better than anyone.
Smash fails at that outside of cut scenes and melee's adventure mode.
Okay but are Timmy and Otis in the pass?
Predict what the DLC will be.
>TMNT shit
>Otis
>Miko
>Otto Rocket
The codename for the first character seems to hint at Tuesday X.
Not the first character, just one of them.
Tuesday X or just one of the X's?
Please post codenames if possible
Stevia
I think Ludosity is actually going to make people pay for Rocksteady this time.
Odie
Nermal
Jon Arbuckle
That's three, there's four planned.
>your pic related
>Rocksteady or something even more stupid like a Triceraton
>Otis
>Jon Arbuckle
What are her chances?
Unionically okay
Not great, unless Nickelodeon plans to do more with Glitch Techs.
Did Nickelodeon plan to do more with El Tigre, Angry Beavers, Ren & Stimpy, Hey Arnold, My Life As A Teenage Robot or Rocko's Modern Life?
Maybe, no, not directly, yes, yes, and yes.
Frick, i forgot about Jenny Miku.
I was talking about more recently.
Jenny Miku was nice.
That and Jenny also appeared in a video game as a skin for a character complete with custom voice lines, between that and appearing in Nickelodeon Kart Racers 3 and that fan continuation Rob's making I think they might be testing the waters for a potential reboot or remake.
>That and Jenny also appeared in a video game as a skin for a character complete with custom voice lines
You mean Smite?
Yeah that, I can never remember that game since I don't play MOBA's.
You haven't forgotten about the leak we got half a year ago right?
I remember the Nicktoons crossover event.
It had its own trailer that had more soul than NASB and better models too.
The only bad thing about it was that it pissed of the entire community for being way too overpriced to the point people just didn't bother with it.
God that was wonderful.
Really makes you realize just how great a Nicktoons crossover can be.
>watching the characters show and realizing they have actual personalities makes a difference in your final work
Who knew?
They put a lot of work into that, though whoever wrote Jenny's lines in that game fricked up, she references that rich guy she had a crush on but doesn't reference anyone else like her mom, her sisters or friends.
i bought one,. gonna get fricked over by takes but it is what it is.
Rocko just had a movie released a couple years ago
Very low, but not impossible.
>Tuesday X and Rocksteady over Timmy
what were they thinking
>Who wants a kid with buckteeth and a pink hat?
>Lol, Nick has some cool goth chicks!
Except it's been confirmed for a while now by insiders like the testers that if they had the easy rights, FOP reps would've been in since the first NASB game.
They were thinking "DOOD, WHAT MELEE EXPY CAN THESE CHARACTERS BE?!?!?"
"TOOSDAY CAN B DA SHIEK EXPY, AND ROCKSTEADY CAN B DA DK EXPY!!!"
I keep saying this everytime and you gays just won't take the hint.
The reason why Timmy isn't in is because outside of the US, Nelvana owns the licensing.
Timmy, along with FOP as a whole, IS IN LICENSING HELL.
If they want Timmy in, they have to go through Nelvana first and it's evident that Nick is not willing to go through the hassle.
Do you think this might have something to do with why it's taking them so long to make a Fairly Oddparents reboot?
>Fairly Oddparents reboot
No. They just had a live action FOP reboot last year and it was horrible.
And according to recent leaks they are working on a new reboot that's also gonna be crappy.
The fact that they went with live action is what makes me think they weren't seriously trying to reboot FOP, and just wanted to make a quick buck like they did with the FOP movies, Nick's not exactly competent but they would know that no one would take well to FOP staying around in the long term as a live action show.
The live action show did so bad they had to take it off of Paramount+.
And yet the show still won the Kids Choice Award for best sitcom.
That makes sense until you realize that Danny Phantom and MLAATR have the same rights issues with Nelvana as FOP.
Except FOP exclusively had seasons split up and owned by Nelvana. Nick owns all the rights for Danny and Jenny. It's why FOP aired on Disney before while Danny Phantom and MLAATR haven't.
SHUT THE FRICK UP b***h
TIMMY IS IN THE OFFICIAL NICKELODEON MOBILE GAME
NICK CAN USE HIM JUST FINE BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO
Is this Nickelodeon mobile game available outside of America?
Not that Anon but here's an Asia exclusive Nickelodeon mobile game featuring Fairly OddParents.
Wel this is confusing, the rights can't be as muddied as people claim if Nickelodeon can use FP outside of America.
FOP was also in a more recent Nickelodeon crossover with RoBlox.
I've known about how much Roblox has changed since the early years for a long while now yet I still can't but be shocked every time I see a pic of the game in it's current state, what the frick did they do the funny brick people with cartoony bazooka's?
They're still apart of RoBlox, the game just became it's own Garry's Mod where people have been creating their own games in it, especially companies who took notice of the game's popularity and just had to leech off of it.
The rights are absolutely muddied, they're just able to be negotiated and paid for. Something NASB doesn't have easy access to doing.
That mobile game is made in-house by Viacom, dipshit. Nick can't use them fine without negotiation and payments. Something a cheap licensed game made by a shovelware company can't manage.
If Nick REALLY cared, they could have outright bought the international distribution rights of FOP from Nelvana for a fraction of what they paid for the TMNT and Garfield.
But they didn't. For all we know Nelevana isn't playing ball and wants to keep the rights. Plus, Nickelodeon isn't known for their foresight and they partly have the rights anyway so they could just be satisfied.
and you say that while there, simultaneously, have been games where Timmy turner himself have been in, even "recently"; such as
Nickverse (a Roblox thing)
Nickelodeon Extreme Tennis,
Nick Football Champions,
Pixel Town,
Super Brawl Universe,
Nicktoons Nitro,
Nicktoons: Android Invasion,
Nicktoons: Attack of the Toybots,
Nicktoons Hoverzone,
Nicktoons Minigolf,
Nicktoons: Battle for Volcano Island,
Nicktoons Winners Cup Racing,
Nicktoons Unite!,
Nicktoons Movin',
Nicktoons: Freeze Frame Frenzy,
Nicktoons Basketball,
&Toon Twister 3-D,
just to name a few.
Explain these.
Which of these games is the most recent?
Nickverse (March, 2022)
A lot of those games were released a decade or more ago and some of those had the means and time to pay/negotiate Timmy.
>A lot of those games were released a decade or more ago
if what you say about Nelvana is indeed true, then Nelvana was part of FOP FOP since day one.
>some of those had the means and time to pay/negotiate Timmy.
ALL of those games that I listed have FOP in them in one form or another, not just "some". And can you really thing a company like Playsoft can "afford" FOP but not Gamemill?
The rights frick up clearly happened recently. Nickelodeon as a company has changed a lot, Timmy used to be apart of every shovelware game until one day he didn't. Especially when NASB's devs wanted him from day 1 so clearly there's rights frickery.
>ALL of those games
Not every game released after the rights shift, moron. And yes, yes I can. Gamemill is a shovelware company. NASB had zero budget and some of the games like Super Brawl negotiated Timmy POST LAUNCH rather than instantly being included as a defacto base char, further proving that his rights are a fricking mess nowadays.
You know who doesn’t have rights issues? Bolbi! Add Bolbi!
>single-handedly saves your shitty Fighter Pass
>Every character's moveset besides Korra is based entirely on memes
Fricking do some research at least before shitposting on twitter and discord.
And even then Korra's moveset was very Ganondorf influenced.
Dishonest garbage. What meme were the turtles, April, and Shredder based on? Oblina? PTM? Over half the roster had straightforward movesets. Aang and Danny's kits weren't memes infested just done poorly due to being rushed.
Can't that be said for all the characters that have questionable movesets, like Jenny having hers mostly based on the first ep of MLAATR? Meme movesets are less of an issue than the poorly done ones.
Jenny's moveset is serviceable, just slightly disappointing but no different from numerous Smash characters taking after one incarnation/game.
Jenny is only serviceable from a compgay perspective, not from a casual fansercive and character portrayal perspective.
And a single episode is much shorter than an entire game.
This, her moveset should've been based on as many episodes as is possible, not just the first one.
And her dialogue shouldn't include any lines from Zone.
Wait, what?
One of her lines was ripped straight from one of Zone's video.
Well actually it was ripped from a real episode that was altered by Zone but lets be real here whoever put that line in knew exactly what they were doing.
You dumb motherfricker why are you letting a porn animation live rent free in your head, why do so many people seem to be incapable of acknowledging that Zone's porn parody has absolutely no effect on the show itself, it's a porn parody, it's non canon, yet even the devs themselves kowtowed and removed that line as if this one animation should effect an entire episode of the cartoon.
Viacom took it down for copyright issues. It's canon.
>Viacom took it down for copyright issues
Please point to the exact moment in Last Action Zero where the episode suddenly became What What in the Robot and millions of kids had their innocence forever ruined, oh wait it didn't fricking happen because it's not official.
It's not canon.
Zone is just narcissistic and autistic enough to believe such a thing.
How can something made online be canon to a show that hardly has canon anyway?
>To a show that hardly has canon
Slow the frick down there buddy MLAATR might adhere to the status quo like crazy but it does have actual canon and continuity.
I think the joke is that another content creator made a disturbing cartoon where bugs bunny raped Elmer Fudd and that got copyright claimed so he made a follow up video where it was a funeral to the video and he ended it with
>if Warner brothers copyright striked the video. Then that must means it’s canon and they own a version of bugs bunny that is a crippling rapist.
Honestly a lot of this is just fricked up i don't even know where to start.
Why are you getting mad at me? I didn't even think about it until the other guy brought it up, and even then i'm sure he brought it up as a joke.
I have done nothing to deserve such hostility.
It's a MLAATR fan, such is expected
It's just annoying to see fanon being treated as though it's more important than canon, it wasn't funny when people acted like Goku is a shitty dad for years because of DBZA, and it isn't any different here.
I agree with you. But to be fair, given how Ludosity is, it's not that far of a stretch to think that one of their employees intentionally snuck that specific line in there as a reference.
You should be naming whatever employee is responsible for it.
I would if I knew who it was.
Not really, I am not a compgay and I found it serviceable.
>Much shorter
Cartoons are inherently a different medium and are shorter than games.
Anymore leaks or information?
Things have started to settle down.
Just want to point out that NASB1's reveal trailer got over 1mil views within 24 hours and 2mil views within a week.
NASB2's reveal trailer still hasn't gotten 1mil views.
the music for the second trailer sucks
As if the music is the only reason why the trailers get views.
DLC
>Garfield Character
>TMNT Character (but not the turtles)
>Tuesday X
>Random rep from obscure show Nick wanted or Returning rep to squeeze money out of Cinemaphile
Vlad shouldn’t have been shelved.
Any word on if pigbawd is one of Lucy's alts?
Powdered Toast Man NPC render.
Gir NPC render.
Is it just me or does his square chest plate thing look like it's hanging off of a piece of tape?
>lh only has 1 rep
lmao based, frick that show anyway, just give me gaz as the goth character and we're great
>Gir NPC
So he's no longer one of Zim's attacks then
Is Zim no longer a zoner now?
gaz is a npc render
pick another rep
invader tak or dr membrane lmao
moveset potential btw
I think people are overreacting to the cuts and take the game too seriously. I had fun with the first one, and I'll probably have fun with the second one. It's not such a great game that it's worth getting that invested in, though.
Maybe people take the game seriously because we actually wanted more from the concept of a Nickelodeon fighting game but the concept has been squandered so badly.
Is the line from episode 1?
Cinemaphile told me they only watched episode 1.
No but the line is an internet meme and the devs are memelords so i wouldn't be surprised if whoever put that line in there just looked at the meme without context and just put it in there.
I know it does. That's why i used the word "hardly"
If that one post that said gaygeus's trans BF rigged a poll to have Jenny win over Jimmy was true then he probably had something to do with it.
I'll give you more context on this.
When the official Discord server ran a poll with the trans mod in charge (Thaddeus' lover who he hired out of nepotism) Jenny was 1st place for a while but Jimmy was coming in close to beating her.
But before Jimmy managed to take the 1st place spot leaving Jenny in 2nd the trans mod shut down the poll hours before it should have claiming that it'd be transphobic if Jenny didn't win.
Everyone who called out and questioned the trans mod for doing such a thing they got banned.
I really hate how hard those mentally ill jackasses have latched onto MLAATR.
I wanna pitch a cartoon to Nickelodeon.
I want to get into the animation industry and i want to work with the studio that inspired me so much.
Although i am taking people's advice and not starting off with my passion project and instead plan on pitching a cartoon that i still like but not too passionate for.
Would you guys like me to share the synopsis?
Go ahead
You sure that's a good idea? If this ever gets traced to you it'll completely obliterate your chances of getting hired by them.
Apparently there have been other people in the industry who have been on Cinemaphile and some still do.
Not sure how that'll effect me though but i think i can get by if i'm just sneaky enough.
A show with a galactic setting, taking place in a city floating in space, staring an alien girl in her early 20s living in her apartment who strives to become a big internet star with the goal of 2 billion followers (There's enough people in the galaxy to get that far) and she is aided by her #1 fan/crazed stalker, who's another alien girl.
The show is a parody of internet culture and online influencers with the main characters inspired by the SpongeBob/Squidward dynamic.
My idea is to not use any memes unless it's to make a joke out of how people use outdated memes.
The stuff i want the show to get into is stuff like drama videos, trend chasing, poor advertisements, conventions, etc. And just take the piss out of all of it with a sci-fi twist.
start drawing it
Sounds pretty fun.
>I wanna pitch a cartoon to Nickelodeon.
>I want to get into the animation industry
Then you better off not going anywhere near a Nickelodeon studio
Start off with making it a webcomic, and sell merch of it if it gets semi-popular. Although your premise has the issue of immediately dating itself, which is a really bad thing for a futuristic setting. So you better get on it quick.
>Paramount
It's viacom.
They rebranded to Paramount Global after merging with CBS.
>rebrand as Paramount
>everyone on Cinemaphile still calls them Viacom
Just a reminder..
Chances of more Invader Zim characters?
gerald was never meant to be modeled in 3d
looks like a lighbulb
Jimmy Neutron reboot soon.
Never evers you want desperately?
Timmy
You already know
Why is Jenny so fricking tiny in this game
Why did they turn Jenny into a womanlet?
April - 6ft
Jenny - 5’11
>If I’m entirely honest, I think the cuts are not that big of a deal. I never assumed all of the characters were coming back anyway. And yeah, it sucks that some of the vets are not returning (Helga for me is a pretty big loss). But its not enough for me to get up in arms about. I feel like the reaction to there being cuts is way overblown. Some of the comments and threads about this topic seem childish
I hate NASB2 because i hate Thaddeus
Why?
He's an annoying c**t
gaygeus is an obnoxious attention whoring asshat.
How? Because he addresses community concerns regarding his game?
>Addresses community concerns
>His game
Don't you have some work you should be doing right now gaygeus?
Hey listen, I'm confused: why were they any cuts at all? NASB was just the first game with the first roster. Wouldn't it make sense to pile MORE characters on top of it and build it up more and more with the sequel, like Smash Bros did after 64? Look how many characters Smash Ultimate has, and that's their competition. That's after years and years of accumulation. Why the frick are you starting over every time? Just let the old characters keep their old movesets and give the new characters new movesets if you need to save time.
It just seems like such an odd decision. It's not even one step forward one step back, it's a step sideways and then slightly to the back because the new roster simply isn't as good. Fricking Grandma from Hey Arnold, would you give me a break dude? Toph and Lincoln are particularly outrageous cuts, but if they're even cutting Spongebob characters it's clear they really don't give a shit about anything over there. And what the frick moveset is Gerald going to have anyway?
Rebuilt the game and code from scratch, because “they didn’t want to make the same game twice”. Obviously they didn’t want the same exact same characters so they switched them around and cut half of the original roster to fit the new deadline.
Not wanting to make the same game twice is a bullshit copout.
Rebuilding the game from scratch makes perfect sense because the first game was gimped from the core. No amount of patches or additions were going to fix some of its most fundamental problems.
But Jesus, they sound pretentious. What, are they going to make NASB3 from scratch despite probably having a perfectly functional and improvable core? It's a platformer brawler for Chrissakes. The whole appeal is having a wide variety of characters duking it out. Forget Smash comparisons.
This is less Mario Party, more Sonic Shuffle.
They'll have to do a shitload to prove themselves off of this.
Anon, that's not the reason they rebuilt it. NASB 1 WASN'T a functional and improvable core. They've gone on record to say that the engine and system isn't good enough to add onto. And NASB 1 patches further proved it. Every time they tried to do something as simple as altering a character balance some wild frick shit always happens because they made the foundation on a rushed deadline with inexperience + a paperclip, a chip, and a napkin tier budget.
>Anon, that's not the reason they rebuilt it. NASB 1 WASN'T a functional and improvable core
That's what he said. That's what "gimped" means.
I thought he was talking about NASB3 instead of NASB2.
>inexperience
They already made Slap City before NASB1
Only two people from Ludosity worked on the game. The entire game has and always has been made by Fair Play Labs.
No, actually, all of Ludocity worked on the game, but NASB took everyone from the development team except for the two devs who made Slap City what it is.
Barely anyone from Ludo worked on the game. Most added suggestions then bailed like Remar.
Then why did Ludosity even work on the game if their contribution is so little?
Because there ARE people from Ludo working on the game, it's just a small portion while Fair Play Labs make the bulk of the team.
Well if it's only just two or three people then at that point they might as well just not worked on the game at all, especially when one of them constantly makes an ass of himself on social media.
Nah, Ludo had heavy influence and their name alone brought numerous eyes to the NASB franchise.
What exactly is their influence?
And, hate to say it, i really do, but, i think their name has been tainted by NASB.
They influenced the roster and gameplay style. Their name hasn't been tainted at all, Slap City is still a beloved title and most blame Nickelodeon and Gamemill for NASB's faults.
>most blame Nickelodeon and Gamemill for NASB's faults.
You should see what Cinemaphile has to say about Ludosity these days.
Also, guilt by association.
Cinemaphile is filled with spiteful people that hate Thaddeus, not Ludosity.
>Also, guilt by association
That's a stupid mindset when the vast majority don't believe in that. Ludo's getting the credit for making NASB have some semblance of fun and be slightly more than just throwaway shovelware.
Ludosity also gets mocked for making the rosters questionable at best.
not really
I've seen them get blame for it even on Twitter, Reddit and Discord.
>But Jesus, they sound pretentious. What, are they going to make NASB3 from scratch despite probably having a perfectly functional and improvable core?
Well considering the fact that NASB2 is a Unity game... and Thaddeus has stated how glad he is that it'll be the last time he'll have to use Unity due to the recent controversy... meaning that they'd have to change engines again if they do make a NASB 3... meaning that they'd have to start from scratch again...
>the last time he'll have to use Unity due to the recent controversy
??
Have you been living under a rock? People are leaving Unity en masse because they tried to implement installation fees for games with the Unity engine. It's a complete shitshow.
>Have you been living under a rock?
I mean I'm not a game developer who uses Unity on a constant basis, so... Yes, I guess?
Unity shitshow was just a couple days ago and people already stopped talking about the moronic “devs pay Unity 20 cents for each time the game was installed including pirated games”
you wish, memes never die.
>install game 1000 times from the steam store
>devs go bankrupt
Because NASB 1 was a trainwreck, the engine was so dysfunctioinal that they couldn't add what they wanted without breaking the code over and over again. So instead of wasting time trying to untangle a fricked up foundation, they started from scratch with a better foundation and a more complete game.
That's great and all but the ram has touched the wall. NASB is already out. These characters are expected. This is not supposed to be a do-ver, this is a sequel. You know, a game with MORE?
Well that sounds stupid as shit to me man. It's their game and they can do whatever they want but it's a pass from me. Their character choices seem stupid and so does their whole philosophy. But good luck, I guess.
It is a game with more. Its properly feature complete day 1. But sorry, building your idea of more just wasn't feasible.
By the way, I actually dismissed the rumor offhand when people they said they were taking characters out, it was genuinely too stupid for me to believe. Just struggling my ass to think who this is for. The original was already so niche and now it's only hope was to pile up the roster like smash brothers, and now you're taking characters out (but hey no worries, it'll have voices at launch this time, which everyone expected anyway!). I just cannot fathom the thought process at all. Baffling. Very strange decisionmaking.
*prequel
>This is not supposed to be a do-ver, this is a sequel.
I'm going to be completely real and completely honest here.
Nickelodeon should just let go of NASB and reboot the entire concept a decade or two later, even more so if they'd be able to sort out it's shit as a company within that time.
They really can't.
This is currently the "90s and 2000s nostalgia" era the same way the 2010s was fricking obsessed with the 1980s.
Right here, right now, is when the appeal of a platform brawler starring a bunch of Millennial and Zoomer childhood icons is at its most profitable
Nickelodeon had this chance and blew it.
I doubt that.
If they just reboot in a decade then by then they'd (Hopefully) have a lot more current airing cartoons that they can make a game out of.
All the 90s and 2000s content will just be seen as retro like Ice Climbers and Duck Hunt in Smash.
In fact i'm going to double down here and say that Nickelodeon shouldn't have even made a platform fighter until they gotten more current airing cartoons that they could've used.
And by current airing cartoons i mean original IPs, not any spin offs, reboots or adaptations.
Those "original IPs" are either dogshit or completely written off when compared to the success of numerous 90s one-off cartoons. There's a reason Nick's depending on Loud House and Spongebob so hard. And nostalgia is exactly what brought so many audiences to NASB not the random new shows.
You don't even know what i meant when i said original IPs.
I wasn't talking any cartoon that already exists, i was talking about cartoons that could exist in the next decade or two.
What else do you think i meant when i specifically brought up Nickelodeon rebooting it in a decade?
>Those "original IPs" are either dogshit
So was Catdog yet it managed to make it in.
And really who cares how bad a show is if the character potential is good.
>or completely written off when compared to the success of numerous 90s one-off cartoons.
It's always the 90s with you for some reason.
No, the shows do not get compared to the90s cartoons, they get compared to SpongeBob specifically.
Like i said, you must be new and the fact that you don't know about the SpongeBob standard just proves it.
That or you're such a 90sgay you somehow convinced yourself that it's a "90s standard"
>There's a reason Nick's depending on Loud House and Spongebob so hard.
Notice how one's a 2010s show and the other is a show that first aired so late into 1999 that most of it's peak is from the 2000s, not to mention that it has become multi generational at this point.
>And nostalgia is exactly what brought so many audiences to NASB not the random new shows.
Don't act like that's the only reason, and don't act like that's the biggest reason either.
People went to NASB because 1. People just like Nickelodeon even without nostalgia. 2. The very concept of a Nickelodeon fighter is just appealing. 3. Competitive players hyping it up to unreasonable levels.
>So was Catdog
Difference is people liked and care for Catdog and eclipses numerous modern Nick shows. And who cares about how bad a show is? Everyone. It's exactly why the nostalgia characters got prioritized over the 2010s slop shows.
>They get compared to Spongebob specifically
Numerous shows that got cancelled after a season or two did better than the mediocre garbage no one cares about. El Tigre being a good example, 2010s Nick is a shadow of its former self, there won't be a single show that reaches any cult following.
>Nickelodeon fighter
And who do you think people want in that fighter? The 90s icons that get hyped up to no end or Fanboy and Chum Chum tier shows? Multiple new shows came and went in 2010-2020 and none of them stuck. Another decade won't change shit outside of maybe one more notable show to take from at best.
Look, i'm just gonna skip over the shit flinging and try reasoning with you because i think we're just misunderstanding each other because i know that at the end of the day the two of us want the exact same thing.
We both want Nickelodeon to do better. Not even in the context of NASB, but do better as a company as a whole.
I want them to get more, better cartoons. I want them to bring back their glory days. I want them to reach their potential. And i know you want the same.
That's all we really want, right? Is for them to stop all of these bullshit insane business decisions and actually do better things.
The way i see it, they can get big cartoons again, they have that potential, and i have the hope that they'll achieve that one day.
Don't you agree?
I agree Nick should do better. But NASB shouldn't have to be put on hold in the prime time era of Smash-likes. Nickelodeon needs to figure it out on their own, NASB shouldn't have to wait for the unlikely possibility of that. There's too many good shows they could represent now in the age of nostalgia chasing trends.
I see your point.
I guess the difference here is that i might be blinded by hopium and copium for Nick's future.
You know damn well they fricking won't. The 90s have and always will be the most beloved era of Nickelodeon and you're straight up delusional if you think otherwise especially when Nickelodeon's reboots and new shows have been failing.
It sounds to me like you're just a 90sgay.
And a lot of modern Nick shows fail not because of the shows themselves but because Nickelodeon keeps screwing them over.
You must be new to the animation community if you seriously all those shows failing were their own faults and not Nickelodeon's poor business decisions.
And don't act like the 2000s Nicktoons weren't as, if not even more, beloved as the 90s. In fact the 2000s has had more success than the 90s.
It's that they have no plan to bring them back in DLC that gets me.
The disrespect to the audience is palpable.
Presumably they don't want to scam their already small fanbase by selling them characters they should have by default.
They added the turtles just like you requested.
I'd rather not pay for bare minimum characters especially ones that should've been in base no matter what (the Turtles)
Devs confirmed they don’t want to add all the turtles just to complete a set. Be grateful they added any TMNT characters at all.
Not that Anon but at this point it'd be less insulting if we didn't have any TMNT.
Receiving nothing is better than receiving a slap in the face.
>Devs confirmed they don’t want to add all the turtles just to complete a set.
Good thing this is a game for the devs and no one else! I hope they enjoy their game.
They should have been in base, but weren't.
So give them to us via DLC. That's what DLC is fricking for. That was the whole concept of DLC: the ability to download new content that either couldn’t be put into the game in time or was developed afterwards.
Frick that shit. DLC is extra and supposed to be a convincing purpose not a fricking scam of characters that should've been here already. There's other options they could and should take than dangling base game tier characters as DLC. It'd be like cutting Link then trying to resell him to me.
Just give me my brother back...
No can do kiddo not enough slots.
dumbfrick goth, most unpopular character you will be beaten and die completely unloved and hated jajaja
Frick off you narcissistic schizo.
no frick tu lucy us hated by everyone and is getting written out of the show and everything she will be the final villain and will be defeated by the heroes uniting to kill her and send her to the lake of fire to burn where there is wailing and gnashing of the teeth. She is the most unpopular character and will fail, so there is no use crying about it you little weepy baby boo hoo XDXDXD
>Schizo babble
If budget was a problem, why didn’t they just use AI voices or even just remove voices altogether?
And get blown the frick out for failing to include the bare minimum ONCE AGAIN? Thank god you're not at the meeting tables. Voice acting was singlehandedly the biggest criticism NASB had. AI is pretty fricking stupid too and would get them in a different kind of trouble.
It wasn't a budget issue, it was a time and resource issue.
>AI is pretty fricking stupid too and would get them in a different kind of trouble.
It’s free, faster, and sounds better.
It's scummy, sounds unnatural, and they'd still have to pay and negotiate the heavy royalty fees for using the people's voices in an official product. This time they added backlash and even worse reception for being that cheap and pathetic that they couldn't afford the real deal. So no, this budget alternative isn't doing shit. You don't know how copyright works at all do you? You sound stupid.
Anon, he's a shill. He's not here for common sense, he gets paid by shitting up completely unrelated threads.
>It's free, faster, and sounds better
What fricking AI programs are you listening to that they sound better than professional VA's? Even the best one's have weird inflections that give them away as being AI made.
Exactly, it's very unnatural and only good as a novelty.
AI programs can sound perfect depending on the output and post processing. It's more just pure emoting and high emotional states that are an issue. We're maybe another year from perfecting AI voices.
The issue is less technical and more ethical. If Nickelodeon did this, the industry and e-celebs would create a national weeping shitstorm demanding the game be boycotted and shamed. We're at least 5-10 years away from people giving up raging against AI.
>You’ll have fully-made AI animated shows and voices or nothing goyim!
I don't think people should give up raging against AI. Say what you will about voice actors being buttholes or it not being that impressive of a job, things will be a lot more soulless once it's all automated.
elevenlabs 2.0
>AI voices
You really think that'd go over well with the strike?
>remove voices
That'd just piss people off more.
maybe in the future, ai voices will be on the same level of quality as vocaloids.
jinriki utaus were basically the foundation for AI covers
WHY WOULD THEY ADD GERALD INSTEAD OF STELLY PHIL??
>Characters can only interact with characters from the same show
Even Subspace didn't do something that dumb.
We got a leak for Azula's theme (Or at least her trailer music) for the game.
>they don't even use her theme
Ugly ass game and terrible devs.
>Scrapped characters including two of the Ninja Turtles with Shredder's corpse being puppeted around by the AI
Yeah frick this I'll go wait for Multiversus to get rereleased.
if the bosses were playable i wouldn't have cared too much but they're not and i'm mad
even worse is how the campaign mode is looking
seriously how the frick is nick smash game getting outplayed by fricking call a' doodle doo when it comes to playable shredder
>YFW MVS ends up getting the turtles as guests and to add salt to Ludosity's wounds it's all four tagging in and out Pokemon Trainer style.
That's not adding salt to anything. They don't care and wanted unique faces.
I want TMNT in Multiversus because i know they'd do a better job at handling the IP.
Adding two Arnold characters while cutting the one from the first game was a moronic decision.
You're wrong. They are cleaner and better looking than the first ones. You memory holed them.
>cutting popular characters just so you they can add them back later and make you pay for them as DLC
everyone involved can fricking die
that’ll be $24.99 on top of the base game for each pass!
I don't trust this. Feels like he's trying to save face.
DLC could be Usagi.
Remember when people thought Loud House was going to be the Fire Emblem of this game?
Remember when people thought they'd add more characters and not cut anyone?
based revisionist
>b-b-based r-r-revisionis
You mean the widely accepted viewpoint before literally this week?
Anyone else?
>You mean the widely accepted viewpoint before literally this week?
Ultimate really has destroyed a whole generation of kids expectations.
melee had no cuts, neither did brawl no one expected sf6 from these devs they expected street fighter 2 turbo
>neither did brawl
Brawl cut 5 characters.
Who?
Dr. Mario, Pichu, Roy, Young Link and Mewtwo.
>neither did brawl
Mewtwo, Pichu, Young Link, and Dr. Mario. That having been said, though, it's not 2008 any more and to think that a game studio can't manage the original game's cast plus a few newcomers in a "Trust us, things will be better this time!" sequel is asinine. It's not like NASB1 had a hundred characters in it. Shame on them.
Oh, geez, how'd I forget Roy? I was pissed because I liked him more than Marth in Melee.
It’s not like those characters were the face of the ip though they could have easily cut April and people wouldn’t notice
In a sequel there's really no reason we can't have all four Turtles, April, Shredder, and maybe even Splinter. This goes for Sandy along with Squidward and Plankton, Toph as well as Azula, etc.
since all the dlc are confirmed newcomers, i bet one of them is timmy
Too good to be true, they'd probably add some random-ass character like Fred
>since all the dlc are confirmed newcomers
It's time.
if this is what they meant about that the dlc is gonna be mediocre at best, then they're gonna be fricking right
>best sister
I will now buy your game.
I can't see Lori.
It boggles my mind that Sandy, the lead female of Spongebob, not only didn't make it in to the game, but isn't DLC either. Did Viacom really give them strict rulings on franchise limits because that's the only way I could see this happening.
no moveset potential
1. Bullshit.
2. If this were true then why was she in the first game?
slime taunts are in the game!
game of the year!!
New leaked renders.
Finally a Zim model
He's so cute.
Now it's time for some NPCs
>tfw you get demoted to NPC
Okay, Nicktoon historians. Which of the more obscure shows are good? or at least at the same quality as Glitch Techs and TLH
>Catscratch
>It's Pony
>Harvey Beaks
>The X's
>Welcome to the Wayne
>Middlemost Post
>Star Trek Prodigy
>Chalk Zone
>Tak and the power of Juju
>Sanjay and Craig eventually got better in season 2
Star Trek as a Nicktoon?
Yep.
It got cancelled earlier this year with only one season, 20 episodes and a cliff hanger.
Nora NPC.
Sorry Frida fans, but she's an NPC.
Where’s Toph?
No Toph renders but Cabbage Merchant is a confirmed NPC.
Leaker says he's gonna reveal the render when he returns.
but the thread will die soon
Then lets hope he gets back before then.
If not then i'll post the render next thread.
The leaker said no free dlc characters but I really think they should reconsider and announce after launch that they have four free fighters as well coming later down the line and show off Leo Mikey helga and Lincoln. Those 4 are the biggest cuts imo in the sense that one of the complaints of the first game was only two turtles. Helga getting cut but Gerald getting in and Lincoln being the main protagonist of his show. PTM and shredder are easy cuts to make, oblina while a great rep doesn’t hurt the game by not being included, cat dog does hurt but you can just ignore the first game and lessen the blow it’s not like the first game was good. High while a fan favorite people are already defending him being cut. Sandy sucks but we got 4 SpongeBob reps still with Krabs being dlc making 5.
Just doing that would change everyone’s pessimism I think
who tf said krabs was dlc?
No one. I have no idea where he got that from.
>with Krabs being dlc
He's a background character.
The devs on discord pretty much said the dlc is based on one of the nasb dlc polls and he was top 10 the leaker already confirmed bosses aren’t dlc making him top 3 it’s just common sense
Oh boy oh boy oh boy will you be disappointed.
post the top 10 list
the (official) dlc polls had hugh, rocko, jenny, angelica, and doug.
Angelica is in!
I guess it doesn't matter that much considering we are going to have to wait until 2024 before DLC even drops. Goddamn Multiversus will be back before NASB gets its DLC.
And by that point people will drop the game for Multiversus and won't come back, just like the last game.
And by then NASB3 will be in production using a different game engine and new switched up roster.
I swear if everyone involved doesn't pull their heads out of their asses then we're going to get five installments in a single decade of this forced "franchise"
I don't even know how they would even make a NASB3. With Viacom/Nick likely demanding the base roster to be limited to 25, I don't see who they could add that could even possibly generate excitement. NASB2 is already kind of scraping the bottle of the barrel in terms of newcomers (Gertie, Gerald, Ember, Azula, etc.)
Timmy
NASB3 would work if they made a crossover with Cartoon Network, but I have no idea if Paramount and Warner Bros would play ball.
Even though the sheer thought of Spongebob, Ren and Stimpy, Jimmy Neutron, and the Ninja Turtles duking it out with Ed Edd n Eddy, Powerpuff Girls, Dexter, and Johnny Bravo would probably mindbreak every Millennial-thru-Zoomer and score the game an instant 5 million in sales even if it was just as sloppy as NASB1. Nickelodeon's priorities are downright bizarre.
>loudgay
opinion discarded, go back to /trash/ like you pile of shits are
>the zimgay trying to act superior
Did anyone hear something?
I'd love a Nickeloeon vs CN Brawl game too. That would've been the shit to my 10 year self back in the day. Samurai Jack vs Shredder would've been awesome.
>seething Gaz got cücked by Lucy
Pfft.
Sad part is, Lucy could have been as big as Gaz is by now considering how popular she seems to be with kids if not for Savino being a sex pest and taking the show with him. I don't remember much about the Loud House, but I do remember that it was right on the verge of becoming a big deal as a kid's show until that mess went down some time late in 2017 I think, and then POOF, everyone stopped talking about the show. I didn't even know it was still on the air until NASB1 came out.
The REAL sad part is that Savino did nothing wrong, as an Insider literally told us on Cinemaphile a few days ago, and would have been absolved and kept on the show if Cartoon Brew didn't leak the investigation and make up shit about sexual assault, and then a bunch of women fell in line as usual also making up extremely vague claims.
Eh, I would have been hyped for it if NASB2 fired on all cylinders. But these arbitrary cuts make me worried that if Ludosity came back to do something like that, Cartoon Network would be more than happy with stuffing every MC and favorite character into it, but Nickelodeon would demand the fricking 'My Leg' guy and that Valentine's Day fairy from FOP to be playable.
Keep in mind that Nickelodeon didn't want a lot of these out there choices.
>Valentine's Day fairy
You mean Cupid?
They're only scaping the bottom of the barrel because the devs are ignoring everything at the top just to be unpredictable.
Here's a list of Nickelodeon characters.
Mr. Krabs, Manray, Larry, Flying Dutchman, Neptune, DoodleBob, Maddie Fenton, Dani Phantom, Dark Danny, Valerie, Skulker, Desiree, Technus, Cindy, Sheen, Calamitous, Jet Fusion, Beautiful Gorgeous, King Goobot, Dib, Tak (Invader Zim), Prof. Membrane, Gir, Heffer, Mr. Bighead, Dr. Hutchison, Mr. Horse, Tak (Power of Juju), Lok, Traloc, Casey Jones, Splinter, Zuko, Tenzin, Kuvira, Ickis, The Gromble, Angelica, Vexus, Misty, Vega, Rudy, Snap, Otto, Reggie, Tito, Mr. Blik, Dudley Puppy, Kitty Katswell, Otis, Fanboy, Chum Chum, Kyle, Man-Arctica, Henry, June, Tuesday, Ronnie Ann, Frida, Black Cuervo, Puma Loco, White Pantera, Sartana of the Dead, Fee, Sanjay, Craig, Ansi, Olly, Yelena, Prismal, Annie, Pony, Five, Bessie, Aseefa, Dorkus, Miko, Mitch, Parker J. Cloud, Angus, Gwyndala.
As you can see there's no shortage of characters can can be used.
Most of those characters are either literal whos or genuinely disliked characters like Fanboy and Chum Chum.
So?
They're still Nick characters with potential.
And even Fanboy & Chum Chum manage to place on popularity polls.
Come join the NASB server for more fun and a diverse and safe space community!
I can't. I've been banned. Twice.
What are Krang from TMNT chances?
He's a background character in the Dimension X stage.
Anon we can't even get all four of the Turtles wtf
All I wanted was an interaction between different series characters with voice acting.
>None of the dlc is from a new series that isn’t already represented in the game.
>Also because this is just lovely
>Tester confirmed in the game you only get 2 alts plus base
>So if you want to do 4 player matches with your buddies better cough up 80 bucks
Welp, we got leak info on the DLC.
It's not about any DLC character but it's still a doozy that'll sink the game's PR as hard as Capcom's early DLC practices.
Since this thread is coming to i close i'll reveal the info next time.
tell me about capcom
Create a thread on Cinemaphile and I'll be there to seethe and rage and possibly dilate
Why the frick are they still using the 80s TMNT? it never aired on nick why not just use the 2012 or 2018 Incarnation that actually aired on nick?
they don’t watch any of these shows
Because muh childhood
>Why the frick are they still using the 80s TMNT?
The most iconic and definitive versions of the characters? Huh, that's a good question...
Also the most corny and lame versions
OH NO, I WOULDN'T WANT MY TALKING MUTATED TEENAGER NINJITSU TURTLES WHO SHOUT COWABUNGA TO BE "CORNY"
And they're also the least Nickelodeon.
They're not the most iconic or the definitive.
Every version is iconic in its own right (Less so for Rise) and the 80s has only hogged the spotlight for two years and now other versions are starting to got a spotlight of their own.
80s was only chosen by Ludosity because they're boomers.
This! Black April is on the rise! Accept her bigots!
Name an incarnation people actually give a shit about outside of:
>The comics
>The '80s cartoon
>The movies ('90s and Michael Bay)
There have been like five different cartoons since the '80s incarnation, none of which lasted for very long. And if you give a shit about characters outside of the Turtles, the '80s version has Bebop & Rocksteady as well as the best April.
2012 and 2003.
>none of which lasted for very long.
2012 lasted for 5 seasons and 2003 lasted for 7.
The 80s lasting for 10 was honestly over staying tis welcome.
>And if you give a shit about characters outside of the Turtles, the '80s version has Bebop & Rocksteady as well as the best April.
2003 also has a great April and also has Karai, a better Shredder and best Casey.
2012 also has a better Bebop and Rocksteady, the best Shredder, a good April and Casey and Tigerclaw.