Based on these results, these are what topped the list. The sample size was far larger than the official BFI poll
results among a poll conducted by 2000 film buffs
Based on these results, these are what topped the list. The sample size was far larger than the official BFI poll
I’ve never met a soul that liked 2001.
Hello, nice to meet you, anon.
I've met plenty who said 2001 was their favorite movie, but they always declined to watch it when offered. Meanwhile someone who says their favorite movie is Predator or Robocop will always find time to watch it with you.
Predator and Robocop are the perfect type of movies to watch with a buddy while drinking beer while 2001 is something you watch alone or in a dark theater for maximum immersion. Completely different type of films.
Eaxctly thus
>or in a dark theater for maximum immersion
Midwit excuse. Cinema is supposed to be communal experience.
>Cinema is supposed to be communal experience.
Maybe if you're a Black person that has the need to hoot and holler through the whole screening
>Maybe if you're a Black person that has the need to hoot and holler through the whole screening
Why do you assume everyone lives with Black folk like you or that a communal experience involves Black folk hooting and chimping?
The social and psychological connection between a group of people listening to hymns (music) can be powerful. Cinema, theatre, Opera used to serve a similar function. Now we have neurotics like you who are too afraid to stand in a crowd talking about that he knows a thing or two about art.
What the frick are you spazzing about, do you think I'm against having a discussion after the showing or are you suggesting we need to start talking during opera? Frick off, moron
This poster is in touch with the human spirit and will have a large and prosperous family
This individualist has sick sexual fetishes and will die alone
So, are you a Black person who wants people to talk during films or are you just a moron who misunderstood the argument? You never answered. Also have a nice day.
Pretty weird thing to do. I offer to watch new movies, or show somebody something I liked or think they would like, but I never offer someone their favorite movie.
And why the hell not? LOL
because it's a waste of everyones time
homie, Friday is my most watched movie ever, but I wouldn't call it my favorite either.
I'm not going to sit and watch LOTR with someone, because that's a commitment and better off viewing on your own.
The overnight praise for 2001 is quite insane, nobody was regarding it this high about a decade ago.
No Gremlins 2: The New Batch
Kubrick has become the Nintendo of cinema, everyone sucks his dick nonstop now and overrates anything with his name attached to it
>Nintendo is….LE BAD OK???
Snoys still seething after totk literally rent free
Difference is that Nintendo shit is fun to play.
It always was, it just took people half a century before they finally realized Citizen Kane sucked dick before it got the praise it deserved
Citizen Kane and 2001 introduced new technological filming techniques and they're both kino.
A bit like Blackmail and Cottage on Dartmoor. Blackmail was wanked over for decades, then people realized Cottage on Dartmoor brutally mogs it.
I like 2001
I used to like Full Metal Jacket but now I think it's shit
I wouldn't put it in my top 100 but I do like it.
I really liked it but I wouldn't watch it again without reading the novel first
I will happily watch 2001 again on the strict condition that we skip the first 20 minutes
Once you've seen that once you don't need to see it again
Its pure kinography
Visually stunning
With stunningly boring sections throughout
I liked it. You have to be a complete homosexual to think any black and white movie is good though. Acting, production values, visuals were all shit back then.
Bait.
I've never seen any of these.
I like the sequel.
>2000 film buffs
i like 2001 but prefer 2010
But you never leave your house?
Yeah it's a 3 hour movie, so maybe that's why?
nta but i would rewatch avatar 1/2 if somebody asked me to
This is why we need common sense AI control.
"Hacking" in the future is going to be wild. Imagine buying a maid bot but to get her to suck your dick you have to recite the page long jailbreak at which end you replay a fake recording where she tells you something is inappropriate and you tell her it is not and she agrees to gaslight her into considering it acceptable.
I'm soul
Mulholland drive is a good movie but no way it belongs up there
>Perfect script
>Best acting of any movie ever
>Excellent cinematography
>Best score of any movie
It's legitmately the GOAT
Based, Naomi Watts had the best performance of any actress ever.
Your praise is so excessive that it sounds like bait.
I was underselling it,
no, no, yes, no, no
1/5 see me after class
lol
'no'
All of that is true
Women suck at acting so it doesn't make sense, i've never seen it and i'm just judging that pic
Looks like inclusivity because, again, women can't act
Women don't need to act. It's all about how the film is put together.
you forgot
>boring
if you're going to put Lynch film on there, I think Lost Highway would be a better choice considering they both have a similar concept but that film was executed better imo
>2001, Apocalypse Now
Horrible films
>Taxi Driver
Fine but overrated
>Mulholland Drive
Flawless, perfect in every aspect
>Persona, Godfather, Vertigo, In the Mood for Love
Great movies
Yeah, I never really got the love for apocalypse now. I watched it once and I was dying after like an hour, I wonder was I just not in the right mindset going in. Maybe we need to give it another shot anon
First time I watched it I was 19 and didn't like it. A couple years later after getting more into movies I was in the mood to watch it again and for whatever reason it just clicked. I watched the redux over 3 times in one week cause it legitimately kept getting better. I don't know what it is but its a really special movie. Magnolia is like this too
>People suddenly don't Like Apocalypse Now
When did this happen? I thought it was and always had been understood to be kino. It's top 5 for me
>Flawless, perfect in every aspect
Failed midwit surrealist slop.
>mulholland drive over all those
actually have a nice day
Taxi Driver is close to a perfect movie (Sport should have been a Black person)... the fact you like midwit and avant shit means we can discard your opinion
Perfect save for the scene with the Jackson Browne song when Travis is watching American bandstand
I mean you pace a movie perfectly with the ill Bernard hermann score...and then you just dump a bucket of cold water on your audience by throwing in a pop song out of nowhere
Raging bull is the real early Scorsese masterpiece
>liking mulholland drive while hating on apocalypse now and taxi driver
Tell me something anon, are you on the LGBTQ spectrum?
Remove Taxi Driver and Space Odyssey
Then i’d agree
Vertigo is still overrated for me.
>apocalypse over godfather
i love that movie but no
For a while I despised the circle jerk for Kane, but now im getting frustrated at the counter jerk, Citizen Kane isn't the GOAT but its definitely in the top 10
Any top tier 60s-90s film mogs Citizen Kane, not even top 50 tbh
not true, the kane screenplay is one of the best ever written. every line is punchy, witty, and reveals new depth to the character that speaks it. brilliant film.
2001 is a visual masterpiece, but I prefer Dr Strangelove
dont care for Vertigo at all. I'd choose Rope 10/10 times
Nobody can actually say what makes Apocalypse now a good film, its just much visuals and le jungle. Platoon is objectively the better 'nam film
Bringing out the Dead >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taxi Driver
Wild strawberries > White light > Persona
never even heard of this asiatic shit, Woman in the dunes is the best asian kino
correction, I'd choose Rear Window 10/10 times*
>Platoon is objectively the better 'nam film
this is such a fricked up take. it's not in the same realm as AN
>Mulholland Dr second
Garbage
Should be #1
Chungking Express > In the Mood For Love
i personally didn't really care for apocalypse now, but this is at least a respectable list
i mostly agree but i feel like it either needed a third vignette or the second one should've just been expanded into the whole movie. having just two where the second one mogs the first so hard felt odd
Yeah and I like 2046 more than In the Mood for Love too. For some reason the latter has gained this mega prestige status and now you're just supposed to always praise it.
Dogshit list.
Post your top 10, no genre-favoritism.
All I get from this list is that people have come to vastly overrate surrealism and "moody" cinema. Sad. This is what happens when we allow midwits to assume the position of patricians.
mulholland drive is shit apart from dem breasts
It literally makes no fricking sense that Twin Peaks FWWM isn't on these lists when everyone rates Mulholland Drive so highly. Yeah it's not as good but there's no way it shouldn't be somewhere in the top 30
critics hated FWWM
Mulholland Dr is the equivalent to Lynch as Symphony of the Night is for Castlevania, it massively overshadows the rest of the series even if people do generally consider others better than it, people still refuse to acknowledge anything else
I think Mulholland Drive is the best *film* he's ever made but Twin Peaks season 3 is his best work. A 2 hour film and an 18 episode show just have very different agendas
Mulholland Drive is the most perfect film in history, but with the context of the TV series Fire Walk with me is probably his best movie
It was ranked in the mid 70s, barely below Blue Velvet which was 20 spots higher.
>tspdt2021
This is their 2021 poll. Their new one is coming out next month. Might change substantially. Also for anyone curious, #9 is Citizen Kane and #10 is Seven Samurai
FWWM is #74
https://www.theyshootpictures.com/2021poll.htm
Top 2 probably remains the same. Though In the Mood for Love might shoot up into the top 5 and overtake Mulholland Drice
The list next month will be for the 1000 most acclaimed films, it's not a poll it's an aggregate of all movie rankings from every organization. Citizen Kane and Vertigo are always at the top
>Coppola has 2 movies in the top 10
When will he get the respect he deserves
Yep these are all great, canonized movies. Cinemaphile can't complain about these selections when the Sight and Sound poll has become woke garbage and claims that a French feminist movie is the greatest ever
2001 was not an enjoyable movie and the pacing was shit on purpose. neat to see the state of the art back in the 60s though
>Surreal and moody cinema is fricking kino.
But only morons place them at pinnacle of cinema. It's like placing Picasso over Rembrandt or Frank Herbert over Dickens or Mark Twain.
Surrealism has become a cheap signifier of being "art" and there more "intellectual". So it attracts tryhards who form the bulk of the film "buff" crowd.
Trips of truth. Persona and Vertigo but not Griffith's Intolerace? They can't even LARP as the "le sophisticated film who likes old films" properly.
You can see the type of mongloids who vote on these polls. Scorsese is by far the most overrated filmmaker alive. Wtf
same for miyazaki and speilberg.
>Scorsese is by far the most overrated filmmaker alive
When did Lynch and Scorsese get this overrated? When I started getting into film 15 years back both of them were one of the many acclaimed American directors. Today every they're worshipped like film gods while not even upping their level in the past decade or so.
Time is the ultimate judge of art, by 2019 Scorsese was being praised as the greatest living director since people keep watching his movies and ripping off his style. Lynch’s reputation also spiked with Twin Peaks S3 which is the most acclaimed show of this century
>Time is the ultimate judge of art, by 2019 Scorsese was being praised as the greatest living director since people keep watching his movies and ripping off his style.
Who ripped off his "style" Todd Philips? Scorsese gained a bit of attention by shitting on Marvel and having hordes of "cinephiles" come to his defense. Do you remember any hype for Silence? Yeah, me neither. But come 2019 everyone was talking about him again. I wonder what happened inbetween.
He did actually, also Sam Levinson with Euphoria rips him off to an embarrassing extent
>Do you remember any hype for Silence? Yeah, me neither.
Well, there was Wolf of Wall Street, that was pretty popular. A new generation just grew up and since Scorsese is a working director with a good reputation and many famous classics under his belt, he keeps gaining more fans.
>Well, there was Wolf of Wall Street, that was pretty popular.
"Banker gets rich and does degenerate stuff" shit has always been popular. Scorsese leaned HARD on Dicaprio's popularity to give his films any modicum of relevance. Anytime he deviated like Hugo and Silence, he fell flat on his face in terms of popularity.
What's up with this contrarianism regarding Scorsese lately? Sure he hasn't made anything that great lately but he has plenty of great movies under his belt. Even a couple of masterpieces. I suspect you zoomers haven't even seen his older films.
>What's up with this contrarianism regarding Scorsese lately?
Is it contrarianism to say he hasn't directed the most number of great filmsm
Alot of people and critics will praise a film purely because of the director.
Cinema is totally different from art and literature, the movies in this list are all very influential and innovative. Mulholland Drive stands alone in its surrealist narrative storytelling, only rivaled by other Lynch films. It deserves its status as a masterpiece
>Mulholland Drive stands alone in its surrealist narrative storytelling, only rivaled by other Lynch films.
Watch something by Luis Buñuel or even Jodorowsky kek.
2001<2010
#1. 8 1/2
#2. Grand illusion
#3. Greed
#4. Godfather
#5. Docks of New York
#6. Gold diggers of 1933
#7. Ivan the terrible
#8. Maria candelaria
>8 1/2
>movie about film-making is number 1
Get fricked. No one thinks this that truly enjoys films.
>8 1/2
It's clearly a movie made for people who are in the industry itself, i.e. directors, actors, critics.
For a normal person this movie is like a very average comedy movie from 60 years ago, but for critics it's a masterpiece.
Just a clear reminder that critics and real audiences like different things.
#1. Fire Walk with Me
#2. Mulholland Dr
#3. Persona
#4. Rashomon
#5. Au hasard Balthazar
#6. Pandora's Box
#7. Repulsion
#8. Passion of Joan of Arc
>Balthazar
This film is so depressing, no way anyone genuinely enjoyed this film.
Vertigo is very overrated. It's not even Hitchwiener's best imo
Mulholland Dr is incomprehensible, looks like a 90s tv show at times and has elements derivative of Vertigo. It has no place anywhere near a top 10.
2001 I can at least understand. Kubrick's best is probably Barry Lyndon or Shining, but 2001 has a legitimate spot as a technical accomplishment.
Vertigo isn't "perfect", but I feel its still underrated in the sense that very few people are willing to actually unravel what it reveals about human nature, it's just disturbing. I've easily seen it 100 times and it still gives me chills, no other film has that kind of staying power for me. However the only real way to watch it is to see a vintage 1958 IB Technicolor print, the 4K blu, while very nice, is still based on the 90s restoration and not the original negative. The 1958 print for instance has no degradation in quality during the flashback.
Godfather II is better than I. The parallel father son narratives are a fantastic device from a confident director, whereas parts of I feel like studio intervention, which is exactly what they were.
Apocalypse Now...eh. It's great sure, but I feel like some of its appeal is waning as the memory of Vietnam fades. Coppola probably shouldn't have 2 movies here.
In the Mood for Love is ok, haven't yet seen the others because I don't worship Scorsese or Bergman. And honestly, I'd rather see Leone's Once Upon a Time in the West and Singin' in the Rain on here than probably half the list.
>Godfather II is better than I. The parallel father son narratives are a fantastic device from a confident director
based
This is a solid list. I don't know if 2001 deserves the #1 spot but I can live with it.
>no Dunston Checks In
>film buffs
You mean pretentious idiots.
Being above your favorite cgi slop written for dyslexic chinese kids don't make someone "le pretentious"
this is literally the midwitts top ten list, if these seem like pretentious picks to you then you must be a genuine tard
>this is literally the midwitts top ten list
That's what I said. I'm sorry, did you mistake "pretentious" for high class? Pretention is of the lessers.
Post both of their lists.
Reddit casual list would be
>Shawshank Redemption
>Empire Strikes Back
>Schindler’s List
>The Dark Knight
>Fight Club
>Forrest Gump
>Lord of the Rings
>A New Hope
Stuff like that. homosexual journalists, IE: Wannabe critics would have
>Citizen Kane
>The Godfather
>Casablanca
>Vertigo
>Amalgamtion of other imdb popular shit
Now post your list.
I like all of these films except 2001 and apocalypse now.
Everything here has been canonized as a film nobody would argue against being a top 5 all time worthy flick.
Eraserhead is Lynch his best film
My opinion of movies in english language
1. Eyes Wide Shut
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey
3. The Tree of Life
4. Rear Window
5. Apocalypse Now
6. The Exorcist
7. Blade Runner
8. Mulholland Drive
9. Inception
10. Batman v Superman Ultimate Cut
My favourite kino list.
1) Interstellar
2) End of Evangelion
3) The Wailing
4) The Prestige
5) Terminator 2
6) No country for old men
7) Spirited Away
8) Happy Gilmore
9) Blazing Saddles
10) Braveheart
Unironically, you'll probably have a fun time with normies while also having something to talk about with this list.
watch more movies and more anime
>and more anime
I've probably watched every good anime there is tbqh.
if eoe and miyazakislop are your top 2 anime movies then clearly not
What's better? Kon, Otomo, Oshii? Or are you one of those types who think Made in Abyss and Nisemonogatari are better?
considering we are on Cinemaphile so i can't say shinkai,, kon, hosoda, yuasa have all done better movies that any ghiblislop. also if you included eoe, which isn't a standalone movie, there are better alternatives (evergarden for example)
I could forgive you for implying Hosada and Shinkai are anything more than one hit wonders but
> Violet evertroony
Anyone who rates kyotroony trash is a pleb and probably a pedo.
>No Massivo Titti, Charles Lube, or Jay "moron" Johnson
oof
Barry Lyndon is way better than 2001, and Rear Window is better than vertigo.
Lol, I will never understand all this love for Vertigo. It's a goofy ass mystery flick with dumb ending and all those analyses claiming it's more than this are always full of shit.
filtered
It’s good. Citizen Kane is the one that sucks
It's good, but hardly perfect. I like the majority of this film, but the ending absolutely ruins it for me. And I'm not even talking about the nun stuff, but about how the truth is revealed to Jimmy Stewart's character.
Robert McKee was one of the first people to question the wanking over Citizen Kane.
1. Drive
2. Avatar
3. The Dark Knight Rises
4. Problem Child 2
5. Fight Club
God this board is full of people that only watch Hollywood and nothing else
Unironically better than any professional list. Especially now when S&S shat the bed.
2001 is a timeless masterpiece and deserves the first spot more than any other film.
2001 is dated schlock and deserves the last spot more than any other film.
>dated
It looks better than modern flicks. The only dated thing about 2001 are female haircuts. It will be watched 100 years from now and it will not feel dated.
>it looks better than avengers
So does my stool and that will also be recognized in 100 years for exactly what it is.
2001 is a decent flick and deserves to be somewhere in the middle with the other films.
2001 is a transphobic nazi movie and should be banned.
funny because non of those is worth watching more than once
Rebecca, Rope, Rear Window, To Catch A Thief and North by Northwest are all better than fricking Vertigo.
Filtered to the max.
>2001 at #1 where it belongs
Kino list. Don't care about the rest
Mulholland Drive and In the Mood For Love are always the only 21st century films to make it that high on these lists. Sure they’re both kino especially Mulholland Drive but it feels like a feedback loop where people pick them because other people did.
Why is there never a comedy on lists like these? Critics are humorless milksops that have no joys in life and who's idea of a good movie is a dreary tale of misery, regret and suffering
Which comedy would you rank among the top films of all time? I’d go with Team America World Police but I can’t really think of any others
A fish called Wanda comes to mind, it really is an amazing comedy with a great cast, lots of humour and having the distinct honour of having killed someone of laughter. Another personal favourite is The Couch Trip, a hidden gem from the '80s or more mainstream titles like Dr. Strangelove or Life of Brian. There are plenty of very funny comedies that are also good movies but critics abhor anything that would make them crack a smile, the miserable gits
Duck Soup
The Princess Bride
The Man With Two Brains
The Importance of Being Earnest
You know Buster Keaton and Jackie Chan exist right? Or do we need "message" behind comedy for it to be considered all time great?
It's funny pretentious twattery like Mulholland drive can be excused as being an "audio visual" experience when people can't settle on its theme but that doesn't extend to something that makes you laugh?
Yes, Keaton is great, too. Better than Chaplin, IMHO. Harold Lloyd, too.
Laurel & Hardy are kino.
Not a single mudskinned director... really makes me ponder
>people of color couldn't afford film school
>people of color couldn't afford film cameras and film
>people of color were rejected by the film industry when they applied for jobs
It's really not that difficult, anon.
Kubrick's first 2 films were financed by a rich relative, Lynch went to AFI ($60-70k per year), Coppola was born to a couple of symphony orchestra musicians, Bergman's country had and has massive public funding for film, Scrosese went to film school...
And that's a good thing
>first movies needed several million in capital to be made.
>doesn't know about Iranian, Indian, Thai, Serbian kino before 1980.
Go watch some capeshit you philistine
> Anthony Asquith's dad was the Last Liberal Prime MIinister, Herbert Henry Asquith. He is also Helena Bonham Carter's great-uncle.
> Carol Reed's dad was legendary theatre actor and producer Herbert Beerbohm Tree, founder of RADA.
Some films I love in no particular order:
Ran (Kurosawa)
Aquire, Wrath of God (Herzog)
The Life & Death of Colonel Blimp (Powell & Pressburger)
Shooting Stars (Asquith)
Kiki's Delivery Service (Miyazaki)
Jean DeFlorette/Manon des Sources (Claude Berri)
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Lee)
Kind Hearts & Coronets (Hamer)
Lol you have Herzog, Ang Lee and fricking miyazaki in your list but not David Lynch? Fricking cretin.
for me? it's godzilla minus one (by TOHO, now in theaters)