The only thing that could possibly make RotS better than RotJ are the Ewok parts dragging the latter so far down that the film overall becomes inferior to the mediocrity that's all of RotS.
All the stuff with Luke and Vader is infinitely better than anything in the prequels while nothing in RotS is really that spectacular other than the action sequences, and even those tend to drag on a bit.
Half the movie is the throne room with the emperor say do it, ewoks throwing rocks and lights flashing around landos wienerpit. After like is captured it goes downhill fast
I enjoy it just off of watching Luke's struggle be almost entirely internal.
I think it's cool how he has to let go of his teachings just enough for his ideals to shine through and bring "true balance" to the Force or whatever instead of going on a blind killing spree.
It's a bit of a played out trope by now to have the protagonist's own nature overpower the flawed teachings of the supposed good guys as the thing that saves the day, but considering it's an inverse of the ending of Empire here I think it sort of works.
The Ewoks are total wank though, clearly just there to sell toys and be the equivalent of jingling keys to kids, something I think every following Star Wars movie suffers from to a certain extent.
>I enjoy it just off of watching Luke's struggle be almost entirely internal.
The "struggle" that was only in one scene. Internal meaning it was barely there and the rest is just headcanon.
>It's a bit of a played out trope by now to have the protagonist's own nature overpower the flawed teachings of the supposed good guys as the thing that saves the day
It's been seen as pretty fricking gay since the mid 80s.
>flawed teachings
Their teachings weren't especially flawed, though. Luke was just in a very special position. Even with his privileged connection to Vader it still almost went sideways because Vader was a very fricked up guy.
> After like is captured it goes downhill fast
I can't comprehend shit taste this extreme.
The single greatest scene in the franchise is near the end of the movie
Yeah because besides that scene it's ewoks throwing rocks and Luke looking at a window for half the movie. Massive drop in quality from empire and new hope
The ewoks and jar jar binks are there to filter out childless try hard weirdos like you from the fan base and keep it a kid's series, seethe moar. I for one am glad the Lucas films always had goofy light hearted elements, unlike the last few Harry Potter movies. Makes for comfy rewatched with the family or knit rainy days.
I don't mind goofy shit, the scene in Empire where Yoda's a little weirdo is one of my favorites in the franchise, but that ultimately serves a grander purpose in the narrative which I don't think the Ewoks or Jar Jar do at all.
You can claim Star Wars was always exclusively for kids but the first two films in this franchise don't feature much of that mindless childish nonsense that later movies do.
I dont want to break it for you, but RotS is the best SW movie, followed by ANH
The rest 4 are step or two below them
Original run's critics score proves it as well. No bullshit revisionism forced by RLM.
Agreed. Return of the Jedi is boring outside of the scenes with Luke, Vader and the Emperor. Revenge of the Sith is entertaining all the way through. A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back are still better than both.
I feel like the entire prequels would've been better fit for graphics novels or serialized comics. The rise of the emperor could've been fleshed out more. Same with padme and Anakin's relationship. The movies feel like there wasn't enough to make three but also rushed for the important stuff
The scene of Vader and Luke talking on the base, the "I feel the conflict within you, let go of your hate" talk is my favorite scene in all 6 movies.
But yeah the choreography in RotS is great.
Nah, he just sits around on coruscant for the entire middle portion getting "seduced" by Sheev. Absolutely unmotivated and the most boring road to Darth Vader possible.
Yeah, based on the same shitty story technique from the second movie.
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>sees visions of his mom dying >isn't able to act on it in time and she dies in his arms >sees visions of his wife dying >refuses to just wait and let it happen
>the dream gimmick was too dumb to use twice.
Luke had visions of his friends in pain in Empire. Vader tortured Han and Leia specifically to lure out Luke, and the fact that Anakin had visions of the people he loved in trouble means that Vader knew that Luke would get those same types of visions. It's actually very well thought-out.
Let’s look at that Mustafar fight. Obi-Wan is mad at Anakin because he killed children; also known as “Younglings”, so that we don’t have to use the phrase “Killed children” in a movie made for children. And then Anakin is mad at Obi-Wan, because Obi-Wan’s a meany-head.
So they fight, and they fight, and they fight more, and they keep fighting.
“It was a challenge in the Obi/Anakin fight", noted Ewan McGregor, "because 3 or 4 minutes in you get over the initial explosion of the fight, and why they’re fighting.”
He basically says that the character’s emotional state is no longer important because the fricking fight goes on for too long.
They explain in excruciating detail just how much work went into shooting a sequence like this, and it’s quite amazing, the level of difficulty and complexity. All to make a sequence that the audience will ultimately find boring, cuz there’s nothing else going on other than that they’re fighting.
The point is Anakin loses. Stretching it out for so long in such an over-the-top show-off way only makes me think of one thing. I think of a little middle-aged businessman. He’s short, he’s balding, and he has a tiny penis so he buys a red Lamborghini to compensate. This entire sequence is the film version of compensating for lack of a story and ability to connect with the audience on an emotional level.
People single this out for shitposting, but I agree with it. The fight is fricking boring. This and the Maul fight are the closest the prequels come to realizing their elaborate quasi-wuxia ambitions thanks to not relying on rubbery CGI stand-ins, but it's not good enough to justify the amount of time it takes. The ending is especially goofy and unconvincing, which I think even most prequelgays acknowledge. It's not a terrible fight but it embodies what annoys me about ROTS in particular.
Kill all prequelgays
Kill all sequelgays
The OT is the only thing that matters and even that is tainted by Lucas.
Star Wars fricking sucks kill all star wars fans.
fpbp
>nobody responded to my bait. i’d better samegay and ‘fpbp’ it.
Rotj gay self portrait
Yeah mate
Why'd you make a thread about it though?
The only thing that could possibly make RotS better than RotJ are the Ewok parts dragging the latter so far down that the film overall becomes inferior to the mediocrity that's all of RotS.
All the stuff with Luke and Vader is infinitely better than anything in the prequels while nothing in RotS is really that spectacular other than the action sequences, and even those tend to drag on a bit.
You're either a pseud with no taste or far too old to still be posting here
I was spared from watching Star Wars as a kid so I have no nostalgic attachment to the prequels.
Half the movie is the throne room with the emperor say do it, ewoks throwing rocks and lights flashing around landos wienerpit. After like is captured it goes downhill fast
I enjoy it just off of watching Luke's struggle be almost entirely internal.
I think it's cool how he has to let go of his teachings just enough for his ideals to shine through and bring "true balance" to the Force or whatever instead of going on a blind killing spree.
It's a bit of a played out trope by now to have the protagonist's own nature overpower the flawed teachings of the supposed good guys as the thing that saves the day, but considering it's an inverse of the ending of Empire here I think it sort of works.
The Ewoks are total wank though, clearly just there to sell toys and be the equivalent of jingling keys to kids, something I think every following Star Wars movie suffers from to a certain extent.
If by internal you mean non-existent until his sister is mentioned after a dozen scenes of nothing
>I enjoy it just off of watching Luke's struggle be almost entirely internal.
The "struggle" that was only in one scene. Internal meaning it was barely there and the rest is just headcanon.
>It's a bit of a played out trope by now to have the protagonist's own nature overpower the flawed teachings of the supposed good guys as the thing that saves the day
It's been seen as pretty fricking gay since the mid 80s.
>flawed teachings
Their teachings weren't especially flawed, though. Luke was just in a very special position. Even with his privileged connection to Vader it still almost went sideways because Vader was a very fricked up guy.
They were in the prequels which is another reason sith is more interesting than jedi
> After like is captured it goes downhill fast
I can't comprehend shit taste this extreme.
The single greatest scene in the franchise is near the end of the movie
Yeah because besides that scene it's ewoks throwing rocks and Luke looking at a window for half the movie. Massive drop in quality from empire and new hope
>and Luke looking at a window for half the movie.
if you have to exaggerate to this extent, reflect on why you're doing it.
>No retort
I accept your concession
The ewoks and jar jar binks are there to filter out childless try hard weirdos like you from the fan base and keep it a kid's series, seethe moar. I for one am glad the Lucas films always had goofy light hearted elements, unlike the last few Harry Potter movies. Makes for comfy rewatched with the family or knit rainy days.
I don't mind goofy shit, the scene in Empire where Yoda's a little weirdo is one of my favorites in the franchise, but that ultimately serves a grander purpose in the narrative which I don't think the Ewoks or Jar Jar do at all.
You can claim Star Wars was always exclusively for kids but the first two films in this franchise don't feature much of that mindless childish nonsense that later movies do.
I dont want to break it for you, but RotS is the best SW movie, followed by ANH
The rest 4 are step or two below them
Original run's critics score proves it as well. No bullshit revisionism forced by RLM.
People didn't like empire?
People hated it for a lot of the same reasons as the Last Jedi, the internet just didn't exist back then
Agreed. Return of the Jedi is boring outside of the scenes with Luke, Vader and the Emperor. Revenge of the Sith is entertaining all the way through. A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back are still better than both.
>A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back are still better than both.
I agree but compared to Jedi RoTS it just so entertaining and rewatchable
It's the best of the prequels by a very large margin.
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>thread about lucas kino
>posts a guy reacting to disney wars
moron
Revenge of the Sith novelisation is the greatest piece of Star Wars media in general. A Greek tragedy in every sense of the word. Masterpiece.
I feel like the entire prequels would've been better fit for graphics novels or serialized comics. The rise of the emperor could've been fleshed out more. Same with padme and Anakin's relationship. The movies feel like there wasn't enough to make three but also rushed for the important stuff
Absolutely agree. The only novelization I read twice
What parts does it improve? Sounds interesting
Cool sound design
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This is the coolest shit
That's should be Rey at the end of the second Disney one
>and not once did Obi-Wan ever do this again.
It fricking sucked.
Guess Genndy Wars isn't out of place anymore then.
Lol no. The prequels are shit and always will be. Redlettermedia was right about everything.
Redditlettermedia was wrong about everything
>Look Mom I posted it again!
O B S E S S E D
ESB>RotS>ANH>RotJ>TFA>TFP>AotC>TLJ>RoS
Here is the objective ranking of the mainline series, do not try to refute it for your opinion means nothing
>TFP
The homosexual Poster
Emma Stone is autistic and doesn't like being touched
The scene of Vader and Luke talking on the base, the "I feel the conflict within you, let go of your hate" talk is my favorite scene in all 6 movies.
But yeah the choreography in RotS is great.
Yeah that's the downhill point
That's the best scene. It was classic.
Doesn't fix the rest of the movie
Yes it does, don't act like you watched it.
No it doesn't
literally the only good star wars movie. empire strikes back was boring as shit after they got off the ice planet
this is how you know your brain is really tiktok fried
>t. zoomer who stared at his phone through the entire movie
True. It's the best Star Wars movie.
This, is fricking stupid.
Why do you hate fun?
>This Fricking Sucks Actually
>Literal Coolest Thing Ever
3>5>6>4>RO>2>1
Disney isn't canon and doesn't exists but Rogue One is HONORARY Lucasfilm and belongs.
I watched once rogue one and enjoyed it. Reminded me of halo Reach. Does it get better or worse with rewatches?
They should make the next movie look like that
That's just because Jedi sucks though. Sith is still miles underneath 4 and 5
The Palpatine scenes are hilarious but ROTS is otherwise awful.
See
The Palpatine scenes aren't hilarious?
I agree, Anakin does frick all for most of this movie, and the dream gimmick was too dumb to use twice.
>Anakin does frick all for most of this movie
You didn't watch the movie.
Nah, he just sits around on coruscant for the entire middle portion getting "seduced" by Sheev. Absolutely unmotivated and the most boring road to Darth Vader possible.
He turned to save his wife's life.
Yeah, based on the same shitty story technique from the second movie.
>sees visions of his mom dying
>isn't able to act on it in time and she dies in his arms
>sees visions of his wife dying
>refuses to just wait and let it happen
>WOOOOOW FRICKING GIMMICKS!
It is tho
>he just sits around on coruscant for the entire middle portion getting "seduced" by Sheev
GIWTWM
Bait
>the dream gimmick was too dumb to use twice.
Luke had visions of his friends in pain in Empire. Vader tortured Han and Leia specifically to lure out Luke, and the fact that Anakin had visions of the people he loved in trouble means that Vader knew that Luke would get those same types of visions. It's actually very well thought-out.
I unironically agree
watch the RLM reviews
>Reddit humor and normies cold takes
Nah
Space Cop is the worst movie ever made. All criticism from Stoklasa is null and void.
I did and I came to the conclusion that they are cinematically illiterate philistines.
Was AVGN right?
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Let's see Mike Mateis review
Let’s look at that Mustafar fight. Obi-Wan is mad at Anakin because he killed children; also known as “Younglings”, so that we don’t have to use the phrase “Killed children” in a movie made for children. And then Anakin is mad at Obi-Wan, because Obi-Wan’s a meany-head.
So they fight, and they fight, and they fight more, and they keep fighting.
“It was a challenge in the Obi/Anakin fight", noted Ewan McGregor, "because 3 or 4 minutes in you get over the initial explosion of the fight, and why they’re fighting.”
He basically says that the character’s emotional state is no longer important because the fricking fight goes on for too long.
They explain in excruciating detail just how much work went into shooting a sequence like this, and it’s quite amazing, the level of difficulty and complexity. All to make a sequence that the audience will ultimately find boring, cuz there’s nothing else going on other than that they’re fighting.
The point is Anakin loses. Stretching it out for so long in such an over-the-top show-off way only makes me think of one thing. I think of a little middle-aged businessman. He’s short, he’s balding, and he has a tiny penis so he buys a red Lamborghini to compensate. This entire sequence is the film version of compensating for lack of a story and ability to connect with the audience on an emotional level.
>All to make a sequence that the audience will ultimately find boring
For zoomers like yourself maybe
>All to make a sequence that the audience will ultimately find boring
He didn't actually say this did he?
People single this out for shitposting, but I agree with it. The fight is fricking boring. This and the Maul fight are the closest the prequels come to realizing their elaborate quasi-wuxia ambitions thanks to not relying on rubbery CGI stand-ins, but it's not good enough to justify the amount of time it takes. The ending is especially goofy and unconvincing, which I think even most prequelgays acknowledge. It's not a terrible fight but it embodies what annoys me about ROTS in particular.
I think about the volcano sound effect right as the battle of the heroes starts up a lot. It's so well timed and sounds so good.
Those were the days.
Kill all prequelgays
Kill all sequelgays
The OT is the only thing that matters and even that is tainted by Lucas.
Star Wars fricking sucks kill all star wars fans.
Jedi sucks and is a cash grab