Why didn't couldn't they just draw a normal dragon? Why did all of their tolkien stuff have to be weird?
The similarity between both films and ralph bakshi's wizards is uncanny. How do you go from making family friendly stuff to paralleling one of the lewdest contemporary animators there was?
Fantasy designs hadn't been standardized yet when the movie was made. There was no definitive look for an orc or a dragon or anything else, although it was starting to trend that way as IPs like Dungeons and Dragons began to maintain consistent designs for their creatures across multiple forms of media in order to facilitate brand recognition.
I liked it. The '77 version of The Hobbit is wildly unique visually, and I figure that's why it's so memorable. Jackson's Smaug could be any dragon. His elves and goblins could have been picked out of any fantasy media. But Rankin-Bass just fricked around, and found something that can't be forgotten.
This is why everything is so generic these days. you guys b***h if anyone tries something new. cat dragon is a pretty novel concept that has never been done.
I loved the hobbit animated film as a kid. I started reading just to read that book after seeing it. I liked Smaug's cat like appearance. Gollum was nightmare fuel. The weird orcs and ugly wood elves were also great. The ugly wood elves reminded me of other old animated shows with semi evil "wood sprite" creatures and i think thsts intentional. They were made to stand out as "lesser" and different than elrond and the other "greater" and more sophisticated elves of rivendell. Their ugliness helped signal danger to kid viewers. Ugliness used to almost signal evil in older media. It makes sense in context of other media around at the time. It also came out long before the huge waves of increases in fantasy content during the 1980s and then 2000s
That movie was really good and the story of the dwarves and the dragon was really disserviced by interracial elf shit. Smaug was a really intriguing character and the fact him and bilbo just have a conversation is hilarious. The archetypes and interplay are well done
The worse part of the hobbit films for me was the horrible bald caps/hair pieces on the dwarfs. None of them looked right at all. None of them came close to Gimli's performance in the LotR. Their thorin oakenshield actor was horrible and bilbo wasnt even trying by the end of production.
what did they mean by his vision cones?
I remember dragons having that sort of power, but can not remember what it was.
I know you had to /roll to pass the check though.
didn't they have some sort of charisma check?
like normies would go under a spell and just walk out and say "hi"
pretty sure smodge was impressed by that
Got woken up from his multi-decade nap by some weird little talking thing. Probably thought it was mildly amusing the dwarves convinced him to go in for them. But then Bilbo started naming names and Smaug wanted to know were Bilbo's gramma's house was at.
>The dwarves are not even as big as the nail tips of the dragon >they build stairs that are so huge only the dragon could walk up them
is this some manlet power trip
Why didn't couldn't they just draw a normal dragon? Why did all of their tolkien stuff have to be weird?
The similarity between both films and ralph bakshi's wizards is uncanny. How do you go from making family friendly stuff to paralleling one of the lewdest contemporary animators there was?
Fantasy designs hadn't been standardized yet when the movie was made. There was no definitive look for an orc or a dragon or anything else, although it was starting to trend that way as IPs like Dungeons and Dragons began to maintain consistent designs for their creatures across multiple forms of media in order to facilitate brand recognition.
I liked it. The '77 version of The Hobbit is wildly unique visually, and I figure that's why it's so memorable. Jackson's Smaug could be any dragon. His elves and goblins could have been picked out of any fantasy media. But Rankin-Bass just fricked around, and found something that can't be forgotten.
This is why everything is so generic these days. you guys b***h if anyone tries something new. cat dragon is a pretty novel concept that has never been done.
>Cat dragon is a pretty novel concept that has never been done.
I think he was joking and making reference towards How to Train Your Dragon where the dragon's are practically just cats.
fpwp
I loved the hobbit animated film as a kid. I started reading just to read that book after seeing it. I liked Smaug's cat like appearance. Gollum was nightmare fuel. The weird orcs and ugly wood elves were also great. The ugly wood elves reminded me of other old animated shows with semi evil "wood sprite" creatures and i think thsts intentional. They were made to stand out as "lesser" and different than elrond and the other "greater" and more sophisticated elves of rivendell. Their ugliness helped signal danger to kid viewers. Ugliness used to almost signal evil in older media. It makes sense in context of other media around at the time. It also came out long before the huge waves of increases in fantasy content during the 1980s and then 2000s
You may not like it but this what peak Smaug looks like
in the animated version he shows his tummy and talks about the israeliteels that are stucked in it
bilbo is impressed
That movie was really good and the story of the dwarves and the dragon was really disserviced by interracial elf shit. Smaug was a really intriguing character and the fact him and bilbo just have a conversation is hilarious. The archetypes and interplay are well done
Smaug would never talk to a white man.
The worse part of the hobbit films for me was the horrible bald caps/hair pieces on the dwarfs. None of them looked right at all. None of them came close to Gimli's performance in the LotR. Their thorin oakenshield actor was horrible and bilbo wasnt even trying by the end of production.
But seriously. Those horrible bald caps.
>HISTORICALLY ACCURATE DRAGONS
>ywn never be strong, Strong, STRONG!
"Well, thief! I smell you! I feel your air. I hear your breath. Come along! Help yourself; there is plenty aaaaaaaaaaaand despair (to spare)!".
what did they mean by his vision cones?
I remember dragons having that sort of power, but can not remember what it was.
I know you had to /roll to pass the check though.
Visual representation of nightvision.
didn't they have some sort of charisma check?
like normies would go under a spell and just walk out and say "hi"
pretty sure smodge was impressed by that
>you make riddles?
I love this smaug. he has an actual man voice.
frick the overacted pumpernickle cummerbund one.
I am the shit poster
I am he who spams BBC
Where there's a whip, there's a way!
when I think Ralph Bakshi's LOTR my first thought it always of this total banger
For me, it's Bearer of the Ring.
I am strong
Strong
STROOONG!
Unironically one of my favorite lines from any movie ever.
I'm watching this movie right now
Are you guys watching me or something?
Make sure you've got the fixed audio version. Dvd release is fricked up.
OMG you're literally me
I've been re-watching this version for my entire life. I love it. This scene is one of my all time favorite movie scenes. It's just so memorable.
Smaug sounds legit bored and even chill at first
He's like "just take some treasure little guy, there's plenty or whatever"
Then when he hears about the Lake-men he gets mad
Got woken up from his multi-decade nap by some weird little talking thing. Probably thought it was mildly amusing the dwarves convinced him to go in for them. But then Bilbo started naming names and Smaug wanted to know were Bilbo's gramma's house was at.
He's a cool looking dragon
>The dwarves are not even as big as the nail tips of the dragon
>they build stairs that are so huge only the dragon could walk up them
is this some manlet power trip
you wouldn't understand, elf
Is it true the Dwarves were influenced by israeli people?
Their language shares characteristics with that or Hebrew.
He should shave.
Sorry you could not catch me! But an expert burglar requires expert catching! Ha ha!
Bass Rakin were kino but I wish Dan Bleuth animated it instead.