Reverse Heroes

Let’s have a thread for opposite theme superheroes. Like Honey-Bee or the Mime

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm thinking about the opposite of batman
      >doesn't use violence to solve problems
      >where's mostly white and is exceptionally open not secretive at all
      >not exceptionally knowledgeable but uses simple truths to solve problems
      >has powers so maybe healing powers
      >parents are still alive
      I'm thinking maybe he's like doveman or lambman what do you guys think?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It’d be nice to see a cape Universe where Jesus is an active figure the same way Thor is. Except he doesn’t fight unless necessary and instead ensures that nobody dies in battle

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm thinking about the opposite of batman
          >doesn't use violence to solve problems
          >where's mostly white and is exceptionally open not secretive at all
          >not exceptionally knowledgeable but uses simple truths to solve problems
          >has powers so maybe healing powers
          >parents are still alive
          I'm thinking maybe he's like doveman or lambman what do you guys think?

          This means that their sidekick (Mourning Dove?) is essentially the proxy who does most of the combat

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I made some AI slop of the butterfly with varying levels of quality, this one looks nice enough not too generic and a little batman esque.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like it. Only thing I’d add is a little mask and a thing about how she built her own fortune.
        Should she have an Alfred equivalent?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          What would the opposite of Alfred be like? a young maid who doesn't actually work?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Probably yeah. Young, clumsy, dumb, likes knives, and completely incapable of understanding sarcasm in any way.

            Just so this doesn’t fall apart though, I’m going to say that Butterfly keeps her around because they grew up together and are practically sisters

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ok, what about the villains, it would be weird having a single villain in the city and a bunch of inept cops.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Technically we can look to the Batfamily and other affiliated heroes for that.

                Heck if you stretch it out to be TAS characters you could have a Zatanna inspired science villain

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        tried doing the mime as well, with less success, I wanted the whole body white like the Joker.
        I think the uniform is fine.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Looks pretty good, slightly lower cut than usual but AI always does that

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Mime?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The opposite of Joker

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    whats she from?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cinemaphile project called Honey-Bee.
      Basically she’s a reverse Peter Parker who acts as the Bugle’s mascot instead of being their enemy. Because she’s a corporate hero, a lot of people don’t take her seriously, but she’s determined to prove them wrong

      Here’s where we store the info
      https://cor63au.fandom.com/wiki/The_Heroic_Honey-Bee

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Petra Parker
        >not just another Spider
        Holy kino

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Everyone always forgets about Peter’s other hero identities

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    What would a reverse Doctor Manhattan be like?

    >alien goddess of immense power is accidentally pulled down to Earth and contained inside a meek human form in an experiment gone wrong

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Princess Tsarina (derived from from "Tsar Bomba")

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m guessing she probably has an SCP like setup, the government locking her in a cell to study

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe she's like Ultraman in that the transformation into her "true form" is unstable and can only last for a few minutes at a time

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            That’d be an interesting idea. A government program went wrong and ripped a higher being down to our world and now she only has limited access to her immortal form
            Almost like the god equivalent of a broken leg

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Her name would make it fitting if it was a result of a botched Soviet experiment

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Actually that’d be pretty interesting if she existed alongside Dr. Manhattan.
                The Soviets get desperate for their own response to America’s walking H-Bomb and pluck an Angel from space

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Meek military secretary
      >Walks into the particle accelerator thingy and gets Manhattan'd
      >She still has the massive powers, quantum nature and all that jazz
      >EXCEPT she keeps her personality and immediatly freaks out upon reforming, trying to cover herself as she materialized stark naked in the middle of a military installation
      >Unlike Manhattan, she's emotional and upbeat, legit trying to find a way to stop humanity from self-destructing but not on a violent way
      >And yeah, the first thing she does is cover herself; usually employing her powers to create all sorts of trendy clothing almost like a Barbie doll
      >The government goes breasts up, because they want to turn her into a weapon but are extremely worried because she's super emotional and absent-minded, and she isn't attracted to the idea of destroying the soviets
      >tl;dr, a ditzy southern girl becomes an omnipotent being in the edge of a nuclear war

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >at the end of her story, Janet decides she’s tried of being treated as a god and assumed a fake identity, going back to her old life

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          What universe did you come from where the Cold War of the 50s-80s was between Union and Confederacy?

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love Petra!

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cute!

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Honey-Bee is at her cutest when she's defeated, trussed up, and embarrassed

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Part of me wonders why Doe never gets the same sentiment

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just personal preference I'm pretty sure you can tell all that about all other gals

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              That’s fair. I just noticed that aside from her being super strong and indestructible a ditzy and sheltered heiress is the perfect damsel in distress

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous
    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      You aren’t the only one

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Holy god dayum! That’s an amazing bee and frog delivery!

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Girls are meant to grope girls...for my entertainment!

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          It kinda surprises me how people forget that Toxic is primarily motivated by a desire for wholesome love but doesn’t know how to express it

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        She needs to be forcibly unmasked on twitch

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        She's not for ryona bro

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Agreed. I think as a rule, whenever blood is drawn the fun is over and the danger begins

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I see nothing wrong with this as long as her captor is gentle while making her repeatedly cum.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is that not a description of Toxic?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Exactly my point.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are you suggesting Toxic is pure

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Pure and very possibly a socially awkward frog.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Definitely socially awkward

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                She wants love but doesn’t know how to get it

                Someone should get her a handler. Cuz frogs sitting atop her head ain't teaching her how to romance a bee. Just how to eat bees.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Don’t worry, she has a wonderful influence that she’s recently gained. Someone sure to tell her exactly how to do romance DOOM!

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                kek Yeah she's doomed. Then again maybe the frog is an improvement.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you think that's bad, you should see her roommates back in NYC!

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                >tfw the entire “thing” Toxic has going on with Petra is entirely the result of Victor and Quinn’s bad advice

                No wonder why things got weird.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Doom just told her how he acted with Sue and pretended it worked

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I almost feel bad for Petra, if it wasn't so funny.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Toxic asks Doom about romance the same way most daughters ask their parents
                >he shows her this picture

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think things will work out for her.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                The worst part is that he used Sue Storm as an example and she was actually a bit into Namor, so Toxic will get absolutely the wrong vibes

                >”what am I doing wrong? Is it because I’m not wearing a swimsuit?”

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                She's an endearing frickup, but Petra will have to kick her butt. She's never going to learn otherwise.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                What she really needs is a nice sit down or date with Petra to showcase the proper way to treat people

                That or talking to Uncle Ben

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Petra gets annoyed with Toxic. Decides to teach her a lesson by capturing her for a change
                >instead of being upset, Jeanne goes along with it and loves the experience, assuming this is his affection works
                >the bee is annoyed

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well that backfired.

                What she really needs is a nice sit down or date with Petra to showcase the proper way to treat people

                That or talking to Uncle Ben

                Dummy drooling frog.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                She is a dummy, but one who requires a certain someone to be complete
                Without Petra to ground her, Toxic would just be some streamer villain forever

                Plus, Petra is the only girl her father approves of

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you think that's bad, you should see her roommates back in NYC!

                >tfw the entire “thing” Toxic has going on with Petra is entirely the result of Victor and Quinn’s bad advice

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                She wants love but doesn’t know how to get it

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are Cinemaphile AU OCs always fetishbait hot chicks
    Are you unable to just make a cool male hero or something

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh we’re fully capable, it’s just that those guys rarely catch on.

      For example here’s Bronze Bear as a Honey Bee side character. He’s a cool though enthusiastic action hero, with a backstory of being a fanboy turned real thing. yet people don’t focus much on him

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        He just looks like a Sentai weirdo
        And even then he exists only as a supporting character of HB, no? Just a side guy. He doesn't have his own enemies or his or his own plot.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Mostly because we didn’t focus on him but yeah, that’s a problem. And it primarily exists because Cinemaphile doesn’t focus much on action hero aus.

          Like if I suggested a Carol Danvers reversal as an Ultraman style alien hiding in plain sight named Captain Void with darkness based powers and an inhuman form only barely hidden by his human disguise, I doubt anyone would care

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Like if I suggested a Carol Danvers reversal as an Ultraman style alien hiding in plain sight named Captain Void with darkness based powers and an inhuman form only barely hidden by his human disguise, I doubt anyone would care
            Well yeah because that sounds boring as frick

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      This whole "AU" is just a thinly veiled excuse for making new yuri pairings.
      Go to /coc/ if you want something with actual substance.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >yuri pairings
        There is only a single yuri pairing

        And at least two straight pairings in the au

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >g-gee, what female villain will Petra get captured by this time around, h-haha
          You're not fooling anyone, homosexual.
          I know this thread only got made to keep the ball rolling from that bondage one.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can be mean all you want, but that doesn’t change the fact that I tried to engage in the worldbuilding of Butterfly and nobody took up my offer.
            I started this thread because I remembered Honey-Bee and I missed the creativity. And if it were up to me we would be writing about J Jonah Jameson and Petra interacting like here

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              >mean
              Are you twelve?

              >I came into a thread about a topic I don't like and now I'm mad
              >How could this have happened to me?

              I'm mad because this is exact same shit every time and people here still want to insist that there's something more to this than lesbian bait. Like this isn't the only thing that people remember this AU for or the only thing that even keeps people interested at this point.
              Get off your fricking high horse

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >twelve
                Nope, just polite enough to know that not everything must be a slur

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >muh slur
                The absolute state of honeykeks.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cool mspaint scribbles.
                Not quite fridge-worthy, I'm afraid.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Go back to jerking off over underage girls, GoldenGirl gay

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I came into a thread about a topic I don't like and now I'm mad
            >How could this have happened to me?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >/coc/
        >Actual substance
        /coc/ is a dead board with even shittier ideas.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >board

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >g-gee, what female villain will Petra get captured by this time around, h-haha
        You're not fooling anyone, homosexual.
        I know this thread only got made to keep the ball rolling from that bondage one.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Don't feed the trolls, dude. Even if there are far more straight ships than gay ships in the Bee-verse

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            True, regardless some ships are fun

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Crackdown was made recently (this year).
      He's not from an AU though.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Check out Stargazer thread

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The design is so good, is there a singular artist that can be credited it or was this the product of many refinements by Cinemaphilemrades?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Here’s the first picture ever made of HB

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Second

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Third by another Anon

          After this the design slowly morphed into the one you posted

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Looks like a dollar store Skitter.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Makes sense given Skitter is a bit based on Spider-Man

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                It all comes full circle then.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                It always felt to me like Worm sometimes had a tendency to take existing superheroes and divide them into three pieces.
                For Spider-Man those three pieces were Skitter, Clockblocker, and Kid Win

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Besides superman and Spider-man what other examples can you think of?
                I'm not disagreeing with you, I think, but I am curious.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well I’m not entirely sure but I have a couple theories
                Armsmaster, Hero, Dauntless, and Contessa are four pieces of Batman
                Piggot and Doctor Mother make up Amanda Waller
                The Case 53s and Alexandria both make up interpretations of Ben Grimm as well as the Irregulars being a darker take on the X-Men
                I see a bit of Green Goblin divided between Kaiser, and Accord
                Lung, Cryptid, and Crawler together make up the Hulk
                Jack Slash and Circus are the Joker divided with Circus also having some similarities
                Wildbow admitted that Rune was originally a hero inspired by Doctor Strange, and I think most of her stuff went to Myrddin
                Hookwolf and Alabaster are two halves of Wolverine’s powers
                Shadow Stalker is pretty much Kitty Pryde with the Punisher’s ideology right down to electrical interference
                Parts of Tattletale seem based on Nancy Drew
                The Siberian is one for both Wonder Woman and her creator, and my personal theory is that Manton’s daughter was a genuinely heroic person named Diana and her death is what truly sent Earth Bet down the toilet
                Some people say Nilbog is based on the troll movies
                Dragon is Ultron but good
                Narwhal and Imp have interpolations of Sue Storm’s powers
                The Dallons all seem to be fusions of the F4 and Superfamily but gone wrong, with Amy and her father being both Reed and Doom due to their ability to stretch DNA

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                And then the cycle begins again

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Second

        Make a Honey Bee comic already, patreon it up for shekels if you have to for motivation

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Which year did this appear?

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          2020 if I remember correctly

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          2020 if I remember correctly

          Two Years ago, to the day, actually. As per the wiki:
          >The idea first spawned in a rule 63 thread on October 29th, 2021, and the first thread was made a few days later on November 1st, 2021.

          So today is technically Honey-Bee's second birthday!

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wow that’s awesome. Actually really cool

            Not that I don't enjoy Honey-Bee and friends, but how about some other ideas, to keep things fresh?

            Could we maybe have a black Swan Detective Noir story where Petra temporarily becomes Honey-Bee noir to solve it

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              I think it might be fun to do the reverse of some classic storylines.

              Like a reverse Black Suit where Honey-Bee goes goth entirely on her own due to personal problems and develops insomnia, only snapping out of it with the arrival of the alien

              Or instead of lifting something heavy, create a storyline requiring her to burrow somewhere

              I wasn't suggesting more ideas for Honey-Bee (although they are appreciated), I was moreso asking for more broader ideas to play around with unrelated to Honey-Bee (and I guess the Mime and Butterfly).

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, well in that case I have a couple, to suggest.

                Firstly, there’s the possibility we could take the X-Men and reverse the morals, powers and sides. Having the mutants not be natural beings but rather abominations created by a bomb similar to Infamous with two different sides. Reverse Charles believing they should embrace being monsters, while reverse Magneto thinks they should strive for better.

                Beyond that there’s also the opposite Doctor Manhattan. Or we could do the opposite of the Flash, with a hero who’s power is slowing down everyone else

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >X Men

                Would that make the opposite of Mister Sinister a benevolent powerless woman who creates a sanctuary for mutants out of simple kindness and thinking that they’re cool

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >we could do the opposite of the Flash, with a hero who’s power is slowing down everyone else
                Fundamentally, what's the difference between speeding yourself up and slowing everyone else down?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                What would the rogues be? Captain Cold would obviously have fire powers, but what about the Trickster? Or Captain Boomerang?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I can’t figure out the others but I feel I feel like they’d be Sergeant Heat and Sergeant Arrow

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's kind of like The World in Jojo. It still functions like Super Speed.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                If that's the case, we should give opposite Flash a different powerset, that would kind of be like slowing everyone else down, but actually be functionally different from moving faster relative to someone else? Like maybe creating localized gravity wells that draw people in and increases their weight, while he's immune?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Depending on the range of the slow aura or whatever you want to call it, really long ranged attacks could be a problem.
                Also, slower travel speed.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I imagined it as more of a slow beam than an aura. Like Foxy

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Beyond that there’s also the opposite Doctor Manhattan
                Did you ignore the posts detailing "Tsarina"?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                No I just think we could expand upon them a little

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I was going to suggest that she's "pulled" when the Soviets detonate a nuke while it's in the middle of teleporting between our dimension and hers, causing her dimension to collapse and merge with our own

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wouldn’t that cause more aliens to leak through the hole?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, it would also cause that

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hmm, perhaps instead of a fake squid a real giant spider appears

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >A giant, red, glowing angelic woman is briefly seen destroying the spider before vanishing without a trace

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >reports of the incident say that space bent to allow her access to the area, with her homeworld described as a desert of red rocks

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >there were unconfirmed reports that an unkempt and malnourished human woman appeared upon the giant being vanishing

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >since then the government has claimed that the entire event was an elaborate hoax carried out by a deluded billionaire who believed it was necessary to save the world
                >since then several reporters have attempted to look into the matter though must have vanished without a trace
                >the wife of one private investigator claims her husband was devoured by “a monster lady made of living ink”
                >the US government has since dismissed such claims as urban legends

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a week later, the Soviet Union mysteriously announces its dissolution, as the flag is lowered, a blue flash can be seen blasting throughout the Kremlin

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                >in large cities, reports start coming in about a serial killer wearing a tragedy mask
                >one surviving victim claims they never use guns as it “cuts the misery short”

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      You aren’t the only one

      Girls are meant to grope girls...for my entertainment!

      I know that yuri shipping has been overdone, and it overtook the threads, but I still am happy about this ship and how it’s appreciated

      %3D

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly, if I could I would eliminate all shipping from these threads with the exception of Honey-Bee and Toxic, and Doe and Bronze Bear, just because I love their two dynamics

        >playful but secretly lonely villain falls for shy and good natured heroine. The villainess wants to showcase her love but doesn’t know how
        And
        >an over enthusiastic weirdo and an adorable absolute moron who just love each other a lot

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I know some Honey Bee art was commissioned but I'm pretty sure this one and a lot more (like picrel) was someone who regularly came to these threads. Someone suspected it of being SmthngJay because the style was similar to the draw friend in Gwenpool threads but I'm not sure.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, for a while we had a pretty neat drawfriend showing up. I enjoyed it regularly honestly.

        Also truth be told I don’t actually mind when a Cinemaphile project ends as long as we had fun. I just wish people would stop assuming making a new thread afterwards is an attempt at a revival and not just someone in the mood to talk about it again. When did this space get so competitive

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Whoever it was, I really hope they return, or at least creates an online gallery for their work.

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any new honeyart?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not yet honestly, but there hasn’t been a thread in a little while

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      You aren’t the only one

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous
  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    My time has come :

    >The Dynamo League

    In a world where capes are more common than coffee cups and crime-fighting is a peculiar pastime, emerges a team of unlikely superheroes who are about to redefine what it means to save the day. Welcome to the uproarious universe of "The Dynamo League" – a quirky bunch of crime-fighting enthusiasts armed with their brave hearts and freelance hero license
    The team consists of :

    >Marmot-man (Joe Filbert):
    The team leader,a former park ranger, became a superhero after he felt responsible after the death of a couple of deer died by a hunter

    >She-Beaver ( Willow Filbert):
    an anthropomorphic beaver teen girl who was found and adopted By Marmot-man, she's very shy and very nerdy

    >Captain Under-Socks (Oliver Rollen):
    a salesman who can turn any sock into a parachute (and yes, he wears them over his pants) a confident and energetic guy

    >Imp-lad (Hel Inger) ≠:
    a goth boy with a jinx and bad karma powers,he tries to act tough and that he doesn't care but fails everytime

    >Dr. Invisi-Bling (Karla Antuna):
    a college professor who can make things invisible… but only if they're shiny. With her sidekick, Sock Puppet Steve, they're ready to embark on their most peculiar escapades yet.

    >Wonder-Coyote(Liza):
    a Woman Warrior and part of the Sisterhood of the Canine who can transform into a feral Coyote and an anthropomorphic super Coyote

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      So are they like the opposite of the Justice League

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        not really they are like a small-scale superhero team who fights small crimes and helps citizens in their hometown (Trunktown) think "Great Lakes Avengers" but that doesn't mean that they don't face huge threats

        ngl started this in the /coc/ thread as a joke but continued it for serval weeks and the story Changed and reached a new plots and arc kek

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Honestly I like them. I’ve seen them a few times over there and I think it’s fun how you portray them as a down to Earth team of capes

  16. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand this "wholesome bondage" thing going on between Toxic and Honey-Bee, especially considering the timeline of when things are supposed to happen:
    >In the beginning Toxic is just a Screwball-esque streamer/influencer who'd do crazy thing for views, like holding up a bank, or causing chaos, or kidnapping/harassing the Daily Bugle's newest mascot for likes
    >Then, she's revealed to be Dr. Doom's estranged daughter, and is whisked away to Latveria to learn discipline and manners befitting of the Daughter of Doom
    >Petra feels sorry for Toxic, so she sends over a communicator that can bypass whatever Latverian firewall so Toxic can have access to the outside world, which is why Toxic develops an unrequited crush on Honey-Bee
    When Toxic leaves Latveria, it'd make sense that she'd be more clingy towards Petra, I don't think it would devolve to her kidnapping her only friend to tie her up and molest her, because that is a good way to have said "friend" not want to be around you any more

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it’s a classic case of people misunderstanding the original concept and then escaping it immensely.

      Original the concept wasn’t so much Toxic doing that kind of stuff and was more so kidnapping/capture. Especially Jeanne wants to hang out with Petra but she doesn’t know how, so she just grabs her and takes her back home.
      Originally it was just supposed to be a few times where Toxic would net/tie up the bee, then take her to a seemingly ominous location before asking her if she wants to hang out. It was endearing as it showcased a bit of social incompetence from Toxic, where she wasn’t sure how to ask how to hang out and eventually it would die down as Petra would show her that she can just ask her without the kidnapping.

      Then after that things would be normal, with the only other kidnapping coming when Jeanne’s anxiety once again leads to stupidity when she wants to ask Petra out on a date

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly, I think people saw "Toxic develops a crush on Honey-Bee" and ran with it, without considering Toxic's scenario at the time (held captive with little contact with the outside world, in addition to having warped ideas of personal relationships, due to being terminally online). I feel like, once Toxic starts hanging out more with Petra and the Frenemies, her puppy crush would naturally diminish, especially if Petra forces Toxic into therapy with Miss Positive

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          That’s true in some ways, but I like the idea of it growing somewhat, though I’d prefer it stay under control.
          There’s just something so endearing about Toxic firmly believing in the possibility of a true fairy tale relationship

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I would like to add that while Toxic is perhaps the most proactive member of the frenemies and encourages others to do shit, she was also the last to join the group because she was kind of a self-centered c**t during everyone’s early days.

          Also would therapist Miss Positive lead to Toxic and Miss Negative shenanigans? Like Jeanne goes to her weekly therapy session Petra (and probably the court) forces her to take, she opens the door to the office and surprise! Miss Negative is there instead ready to cause mayhem.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Jeanne goes in for mandated therapy
            >finds Miss Negative there instead, holding her files
            >she immediately launches into tearing apart ever insecurity that Jeanne has to feed on her misery, making Jeanne worthless and reducing her to the verge of tears
            >Jeanne can’t handle it and walks out
            >eventually can’t take it anymore and breaks down crying
            >Honey-Bee sees her and flies down to comfort the distraught villain
            >Jeanne immediately latches into Honey-Bee and starts sobbing into her costume, to which Petra just flies over to a nearby building and holds her there, letting her cry it out
            >as she’s sobbing and muffled by the costume, Jeanne says those three magic words to Petra, though they go unheard
            >”I love you”

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Went more romantic than I expected, not that I mind

  17. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based on greentext from previous thread, just make a porn comic of them

  18. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not that I don't enjoy Honey-Bee and friends, but how about some other ideas, to keep things fresh?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it might be fun to do the reverse of some classic storylines.

      Like a reverse Black Suit where Honey-Bee goes goth entirely on her own due to personal problems and develops insomnia, only snapping out of it with the arrival of the alien

      Or instead of lifting something heavy, create a storyline requiring her to burrow somewhere

  19. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I keep seeing this character and thinking it's Taylor from Worm if she managed not to make a complete shitshow of her cape career

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Funny thing is they’re only connected via shyness and bug theme. Beyond that they couldn’t be further apart

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't she save the world or whatever?that doesn't seem like a Shitshow to me.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but she ended up one armed and illiterate

  20. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    What other series would make a good rule 63 project? Personally, I think Miraculous and Sym-Bionic Titan would be good fits.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Miraculous reversed is just Spider-Man so the other one is probably best

      Also X-Men would be fun

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, though, what would a "reversed" Symbionic Titan be, though? Would it be a complete genre shift? Or is it just Lance being a girl?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous
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          Anonymous
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            Anonymous
        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why robot unchanged

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Either Lance is a girl or it becomes Evangelion

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lance's gender doesn't really change much about the character.

  21. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if instead of being a humanoid being, Superman was a grey alien with ice powers

  22. 8 months ago
    Anonymous
  23. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's a good example of "The Joker, only somehow sane enough to be helpful even if not heroic"?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Freakazoid?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Telltale vigilante joker?

  24. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    So what is reverse Ozymandias like and what's his/her plan?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably someone super into magic the same way Ozy looked into science. Someone who’s more fame than ability with people willing to enact her plan for her

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        So what would her plan be? The same as Ozymandias? Or would she try and bring together the superpowers in a different way?

        >Meek military secretary
        >Walks into the particle accelerator thingy and gets Manhattan'd
        >She still has the massive powers, quantum nature and all that jazz
        >EXCEPT she keeps her personality and immediatly freaks out upon reforming, trying to cover herself as she materialized stark naked in the middle of a military installation
        >Unlike Manhattan, she's emotional and upbeat, legit trying to find a way to stop humanity from self-destructing but not on a violent way
        >And yeah, the first thing she does is cover herself; usually employing her powers to create all sorts of trendy clothing almost like a Barbie doll
        >The government goes breasts up, because they want to turn her into a weapon but are extremely worried because she's super emotional and absent-minded, and she isn't attracted to the idea of destroying the soviets
        >tl;dr, a ditzy southern girl becomes an omnipotent being in the edge of a nuclear war

        >at the end of her story, Janet decides she’s tried of being treated as a god and assumed a fake identity, going back to her old life

        tfw no omnipotent ditzy southern belle gf

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          What if her plan was originally to use her feminine charms (and magic) to seduce all the heads of state and try and coerce them to cooperate with each other, only for everything to start falling apart and her resorting to summoning a giant magic squid or something?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            You know, wanna know what would be interesting for a female Ozy? (Still can’t think of a good name)
            If she was incredibly dumb but still believed herself to be the smartest/strongest entirely due to her magic. Like she thinks of herself as this grand master manipulator, but in reality she just uses mind control to cheat at everything in life

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          well since we're doing opposites, i think the solution she'd go for is decapitation strikes on every major government in order to remove the people who she sees as causing the global tensions in the first place. After that, i'm not really sure. maybe she tries to hold the world hostage by stealing a bunch of nuclear weapons or kidnapping dr. Manhattan, forcing everyone to get along with each other or else face annihilation at her hands. Maybe she tries to be subtle and maneuver some peaceniks into the right places beforehand, so that when the smoke clears they're all focused on keeping things from deteriorating further rather than getting revenge on whoever caused the destruction in the first place. Maybe she just straight-up invades everyone and try to rule it all as some kind of philosopher-queen since she's convinced she's the only person who could lead mankind into the future. idk, just spit-balling here.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            I kind of like the idea that was pitched where she uses magic or mind control, where she think she's doing some kind of 4D chess but really she's just mind controlling the heads of state to cooperate, but accidentally turning herself into a dictator

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, basically constantly failing upwards while using hypnosis to cover up her mistakes
              Like a female and idiot version of Lelouch

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Since none of the Watchmen have powers, wouldn’t the reverse all have powers

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not necessarily. I think it'd be interesting if it were just a psyche change, too. So instead of being a hard boiled conspiracy theorist, reverse Rorscach would be some bleeding heart liberal or something?

        You know, wanna know what would be interesting for a female Ozy? (Still can’t think of a good name)
        If she was incredibly dumb but still believed herself to be the smartest/strongest entirely due to her magic. Like she thinks of herself as this grand master manipulator, but in reality she just uses mind control to cheat at everything in life

        maybe just call her Adrianna, for now? But yeah, she think she's being some 4D chess playing manipulator, but really being something far more sinister would be more in line with being the reverse of regular Adrian (i.e. doing something sinister with the intention of something altruistic)

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe as a compromise some of them have powers and others don’t just to make the reverses have a bit of variety.

          For example Adrianna having maybe mild psychic abilities while reverse Rorschach has none. Also what if reverse Rorschach has a facial scar covered by the mask. It isn’t too bad, but she refuses to allow anyone to see it

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Reverse Rorschach is obsessed with public identity, everyone must know who she is
          >Grew up in a loving family, never experienced hardships and is super idealistic
          >Has a disdain for classic Americana and wants the world to move forward into an era of peace, ergo she's an idealist with a very liberal mindset and a somewhat fantastic view on justice
          >Hates violence, but she's ruthless and exposes her victims via extensive research in a way that even law agencies are baffled by her uncanny detective skills
          >Unlike Rorschach, she's incapable of being silent

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            I like this. She reminds me of a more bubbly adult Nancy Drew. Someone who just keeps finding mysteries and solves them out of a sense of purpose

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              So what would Nite Owl and Silk Spectre be in this reverse universe?

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm thinking somewhere between Nancy Drew and the Mistress of Mystery from Fallout.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh yeah definitely. Though regardless of reverse or not reverse I still think it can’t be derived from Rorschach without a mask of some kind

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well, Rorschach has his ink mask that shifts around, so I guess reverse Rorschach has just a plain static domino mask? It could still be black and white, like her morality, but I'm not sure if the "black and white shifting patterns" think would work with Reverse Rorschach

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe something like the masks worn by Team Break

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                She wants eyes on her.
                Remember how Rorschach patterned his mask off experimental cloth originally used for a dress? I could see her wearing a mask like

                Maybe something like the masks worn by Team Break

                but her outfit could be made out of the moving fabric.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                That honestly sounds awesome. I like to imagine it’s a jacket over the dress to give a slight concealment over the dress. Allowing for that kind of curiosity tease

                well since we're doing opposites, i think the solution she'd go for is decapitation strikes on every major government in order to remove the people who she sees as causing the global tensions in the first place. After that, i'm not really sure. maybe she tries to hold the world hostage by stealing a bunch of nuclear weapons or kidnapping dr. Manhattan, forcing everyone to get along with each other or else face annihilation at her hands. Maybe she tries to be subtle and maneuver some peaceniks into the right places beforehand, so that when the smoke clears they're all focused on keeping things from deteriorating further rather than getting revenge on whoever caused the destruction in the first place. Maybe she just straight-up invades everyone and try to rule it all as some kind of philosopher-queen since she's convinced she's the only person who could lead mankind into the future. idk, just spit-balling here.

                If these reversed exist in the same universe as the regular Watchmen characters it might be really cool to see them face off against the main ones in rivalries

  25. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >when people are too cowardly to admit they think your idea is shit so they just silently glom onto whatever idea they think is better

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Which was your idea?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tsarina

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I wouldn't take it personally. I've been a regular of the Honey-Bee threads from the very beginning, and I've had ideas rebuffed by the others time and time again. Sometimes people just aren't feeling a particular idea, and sometimes one idea just appeals more to some anons more than others. Although I guess if you want to do the "Soviet counterpart to Dr. Manhattan", it is a good jumping off point.. The question then is, where does the story go from there? Does the Cold War get even colder, with each Dr. Manhattan and Tsarina becoming effective replacements for nukes, and other superpowers rushing to make/claim their own? Or does Dr. Manhattan and Tsarina just frick off into space to leave Earth to their own devices?

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Given she causes the USSR to collapse in response to being censored, I'd imagine she'd take over and use her powers to remake the Russian Empire, even if that means uniting the globe under Russian rule

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              I guess it'd depend on when Tsarina was requisitioned by the Russians, Pre-revolution, or during the Cold War. Because if she was found/brainwashed/educated during the Cold War, I could see it more like Red Son, where she takes control of the USSR by force after realizing that Stalin and the others were lying to her

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                The interesting thing about her is her reverse Manhattan character arc as she starts off as a completely detached being unable to even perceive humanity, then slowly grows more attached to us and our freedom

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's why I think an imperialist coup d'etat is what she'd do. She'd learn about Russia before Soviet rule and how it descended into ruin under communism, growing attached to both humanity and newfound nostalgia for what her motherland used to be

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think that would be an incredibly interesting villain, especially a female one, since it kind of taps into like a maternal instinct. Like she takes over because she believes she knows best, and tries to forcibly disarm the world's nukes?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think that becoming paranoid about her power's time limit would also contribute to becoming evil

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well, it would certainly give her a sense of urgency, like "I have to do this before I'm powerless to do so". But how would that color US-Russian relations? Like maybe they'd be ok with the USSR dissolving in favor of the Russian Republic, but they still got a super powered alien dommy mommy as leader, and a bunch of nukes, but Dr. Manhattan doesn't really give a shit

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think they would attempt to repair relations to stay on her good side, as well as devise some sort of space-time catastrophe to make Manhattan prove his purpose, to prove his existence is necessary.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, would Manhattan care? His entire schtick is that he's become so powerful that mortal affairs are beneath him, so would he really care about Tsarina and the new Russian Republic?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                He might care only because she’s a being on par with him who was born that way

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                He might care only because she’s a being on par with him who was born that way

                I said "space-time" as in the threat she creates is cosmic and metaphysical in nature. There's the possibility that she can erase him on a metaphysical level or sent to a lower dimension. She's lived under state-enforced nihilism, so imagine how she'd feel towards seeing what she considers "Nihilism given sentient form"

  26. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if we do Dr Strange?

    Instead of magic it’s science, but science either so advanced that most people think it’s magic or delving into really weird researches?

  27. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Watchmen is a very specifically crafted story with specifically written characters.
    Making elseworld slop like the shit above fundamentally doesn't work.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Watchmen is in of itself a fiction inspired by the characters of Charlton Comics, who were in themselves inspired by other figures. This is merely yet another expression of the initial idea

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