the writing sucks anyway. every writer they hire just wants to create a new angle to psycho-analyze Rick by convoluting some way to prop up other characters as his unrealistic foils. the show wants me to care about Rick's relationship with the gay ass president? I don't. his old war buddies? I did. when it was more mysterious. that's why I cared. Jerry? who could I care about Jerry when you write him completely different every single episode?
I think the problem lies with the short 10 episode seasons. Too short to flesh out any character development and arcs in such short seasons. It's like when the going gets good it stops. God I'd kill for shows to have proper length seasons again 25+ episodes at a minimum.
50 is too long. Maybe 50 half episodes or 25 full length episodes. Personally I would've loved for the season 6 finale to have been a full hour long, because it had so much meat on the bones, so much story to explore. But instead they kept rushing through it like every single episode.
20+ episode seasons are only for network television. 10 episode seasons are the norm for cable television since over a decade ago. my bad they WERE the norm, now many shows are getting reduced seasons (it's always sunny is down to 8, south park is down to 6). >Too short to flesh out any character development and arcs in such short seasons. It's like when the going gets good it stops.
it's more a reflection of how the show's written and not how long the seasons are. if they wanted to strictly tell a serialized story the show would've been finished already. instead they use the serialized elements as a hook to keep you watching through the silly standalone episodes.
That's why I love episodic content. Keep the stories loosely affiliated and stand alone, but all episodes should work towards a greater end of season/end of series goal. I just binge watched all of the original frasier and I loved how every single episode had it's own tale to tell, but yet it all contributed to the series as a whole. I wish more cable tv did that. I cant stand the make everything at the beginning of the season all at once, and then dont change stuff when it doesn't work outside the writers heads.
Cartoonishly impractical which I assume is your joke unless you’re delusional. Anything more than 15 is ridiculous.
7 months ago
Anonymous
How dare you. I want real depth and you call me a delusional joker? Where exactly do you get off? This show is good but it can be great if given the room it needs to breathe. You're the impractical one here. The writers need time to build the characters. 50 episodes is that perfect spot without over staying its welcome.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You’ve made your point industrygay, leave the morons alone they don’t know any better.
20+ episode seasons are only for network television. 10 episode seasons are the norm for cable television since over a decade ago. my bad they WERE the norm, now many shows are getting reduced seasons (it's always sunny is down to 8, south park is down to 6). >Too short to flesh out any character development and arcs in such short seasons. It's like when the going gets good it stops.
it's more a reflection of how the show's written and not how long the seasons are. if they wanted to strictly tell a serialized story the show would've been finished already. instead they use the serialized elements as a hook to keep you watching through the silly standalone episodes.
I feel similar but the opposite. The seasons have the right number of episodes, the episodes are a little short. Some of these stories really feel like they’d benefit from being 10 minutes longer. Also impractical but that’s my take.
>The new VA's ruined it >3 episodes >Number of times rick has burp talked = 0
S7 is bad and adult swim should feel bad
I think they should have just gone with completely new voices and worked it into the plot. Go full on Bendigo Aussie Rick and Aussie Morty for a season, as they investigate what is going on and build a story around Rick Prime fricking with the yadda yadda, then they kill him or whatever at the end of the season, and their voices switch to the current voices.
And Morty goes, Oh, Ricksan, our voices? Are voices are b-b-back? But they're a little off.'
And Rick, almost cutting him off, burps, and goes, Eh, close enough. Roll credits.
I think this was the season to go all in with everything. After all the two crows shit last season, they should have just shot to wrap this whole thing up.
I havent seen any episodes this season, but it doesnt even feel like they're having fun. I almost missed last season's ender because it was a president episode on top of a star wars eipside.
Are we still making star wars jokes?
And there is a predator joke in the new season? It's just lazy.
the writing sucks anyway. every writer they hire just wants to create a new angle to psycho-analyze Rick by convoluting some way to prop up other characters as his unrealistic foils. the show wants me to care about Rick's relationship with the gay ass president? I don't. his old war buddies? I did. when it was more mysterious. that's why I cared. Jerry? who could I care about Jerry when you write him completely different every single episode?
I agree with this. I blame the internet. Writers want to be rockstars and they want to be known by the people and it's moronic. Great, you wrote episode yadda yadda, I dont need to know who you are, it's just a fricking episode. They they act like tech programmers and jump ship to other projects like there is any correlation at all. It's infrickingsane.
>All because some guy hit some girl
Allegedly, and all charges were dropped. When they beg Roiland to come back, he's gonna get a bigger payout than Johnny Depp.
They're not gonna get him back, and I have no idea why people still think that the domestic abuse thing matters or is relevant at all. He's literally gone because his views on underage girls hit sufficiently widespread circulation to make him an unemployable PR liability. It's sad but totally understandable and intractable.
Lazzo never liked him and trusted Harmon more. Harmon overreached and he couldn’t stand up for himself. The allegations and texts were just the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Considering how this dump of a season is going, yes they will beg him on hand and knee to come back.
7 months ago
Anonymous
It might turn out as my new favorite season, actually. (My current favorite season is season five. My least favorite season is season six.)
7 months ago
Anonymous
Your opinion is discarded and I will not reply further.
Just kidding, I'm doing a bit because you said something I can imply is divisive
7 months ago
Anonymous
Very interesting, for me season 5 is the worst and 6 is the best since 1+2 (which is far and away the best). Care to elaborate (don’t need to effortpost too hard unless you want to). >What did you like about S5 >What went wrong in S6 >How is S7 different than S6 (I group them together like S4 and S5 so far)
7 months ago
Anonymous
The season is 2 for 3 and the current era of the show isn’t the worst one.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Eh, I definitely laughed out loud at episode 2, but this episode didn't really have any jokes that hit me enough to physically react.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Season 4+5 had better humor but absolutely ass terrible character writing (not all the time, but the lowest the show has gotten).
Season 6+7 so far is way better on character but the least funny the series has gotten (exception being S7E1 which felt like a S4 bottom of the barrel episode escaped out of a time warp).
7 months ago
Anonymous
season 6 was written in 2020, which implies that... >season 7 was written in 2021 >season 8 was written in 2022
assuming justin still had any influence on the show before he got fired, it'll be present in this season and the next.
>Allegedly
Yeah because a girl with Roiland would lie about that. A guy who is an OPEN fricking sex pest and is 100% unapologetically a pedophile who openly mocked Chris Hansen and defended the pedos on the show because the 'bait was hot'
He's a fricking deranged freak who immediately abused his power as a creator to groom underage girls and use them for sex.
Yeah, he waited until they were 18, but he initiated his grooming when they were 15 or 16, which is the age you can mindfrick a stupid teenager and he was well aware. He's a loser who had nothing going on in life until he made a stupid Doc and Marty parody and he knows he can only get idiotic teenage girls because he's a hideous chud.
oh yeah he also posted, publicly, about 'underage girls' on his own Reddit account years back and a girl who went to meet him said she felt shitty, coerced, forced, and weird the entire time she was hanging out with him. And she said he spammed her a bunch of penis pictures or said penis 100 times in her DMs when she was trying to sleep in the room next door. He's a frickin freak.
Great breakdown. Dumb fanboys will dismiss his behavior as "that's just how he is! XD," but that's an unhealthy way of looking at it. His whole "WHOOPY POOPY DOOBLES" shtick wasn't a bit, he's just that fricking immature. Add his behavior at work and how he made every one of his employees embarrassed to work for him and it shouldn't even be controversial for Adult Swim and Hulu to have fired his ass.
Roiland's a piece of shit as a person, but I will still go on record to say he's a phenomenal voice actor and brought *some* good to this world. The Roy episode from last season is a good recent example of how good he was at that role even while being a pariah at the studio. "Rick Potion #9" also proves that he had some cool contributions to Rick and Morty's writing, and I really am a fan of the Roiland art style. His absence will make the show feel different, yes, but he deserves everything that came to him.
Being a feminist ally on a website two clicks away from shitting dicknipples does not make you cool. Roiland was at least half the show, and now that he's gone it's half dead. I don't have to like him personally to know he's necessary. Enjoy your humorless soap opera.
>Roiland was at least half the show
That hasn't been true for years. And even if I didn't care about his creeping on barely legal girls, I'd still call him out for how immature he was in the studio. Roiland could've pulled back on his involvement with the show WITHOUT burning so many bridges and making it so easy to get fired. Harmon isn't an angel either, though. I still question some of his creative decisions and I wonder what led to practically all of the S1-3 writers leaving.
Great breakdown. Dumb fanboys will dismiss his behavior as "that's just how he is! XD," but that's an unhealthy way of looking at it. His whole "WHOOPY POOPY DOOBLES" shtick wasn't a bit, he's just that fricking immature. Add his behavior at work and how he made every one of his employees embarrassed to work for him and it shouldn't even be controversial for Adult Swim and Hulu to have fired his ass.
Roiland's a piece of shit as a person, but I will still go on record to say he's a phenomenal voice actor and brought *some* good to this world. The Roy episode from last season is a good recent example of how good he was at that role even while being a pariah at the studio. "Rick Potion #9" also proves that he had some cool contributions to Rick and Morty's writing, and I really am a fan of the Roiland art style. His absence will make the show feel different, yes, but he deserves everything that came to him.
>Angry femcels
Hate him all you want. The show is diminished without him just like Squidbillies was diminished without Stuart Baker.
I feel rick is spot on EXCEPT when he needs to scream/talk loudly, whereas morty is completely off all the time (ironically closer to pilot/S1 morty but that was never my favorite morty voice).
It's not the voices, the writing is just a mess. Even the best episode so far, S7E2, started to lose steam around the 10 minute mark. It's not aggressively bad like S4, but it's bland, like it doesn't know what it wants to do so it goes for the safest plots it can think of.
Rick's new VA is turning out pretty good, I couldn't tell the difference in the last episode.
Morty is much more hit and miss, however. And three episodes into Season 7 with only one supporting role and two cameos tells me they may not have a lot of faith in him. Maybe they're just starting with the Rick-heavy episodes to give him more time to fine-tune his Morty voice, but that feels more hopeful than realistic at this point.
>All because some guy hit some girl
Allegedly, and all charges were dropped. When they beg Roiland to come back, he's gonna get a bigger payout than Johnny Depp.
Charges dropped just means they didn't have hard evidence, not that he didn't do it. I know we like Roiland because he was probably a former Cinemaphilemrade, but if anything shouldn't a history with Cinemaphile make it MORE likely all the rumors of him being a creep and manchild have merit? We all know what the other boards are like, we all know who we're posting with.
>And three episodes into Season 7 with only one supporting role and two cameos tells me they may not have a lot of faith in him.
Are you serious about this, bro?
I'm not saying the scrapped or rewrote any episodes, just that they may have reordered them so they either A) have time to possibly redub Morty's lines or B) get Season 7 off to a strong enough start that they won't get flack for the weaker Morty later in the season.
Whether or not it's because of Morty's new VA, you've got to admit it's weird that one of the titular characters has had barely any focus 3 episodes into the season.
>And three episodes into Season 7 with only one supporting role and two cameos tells me they may not have a lot of faith in him.
Are you serious about this, bro?
There's a lot of Cinemaphile anons that really don't like the idea of an episodic show staying as an episodic show, and that stakes must be raise + intrigue to be constantly accelerated in order to keep interest from the audience. They're the audience that Dan Harmon pandered to and ruined the show with, they're the ones that care about Rick Prime, and it's insufferable.
I love serialization when it's done well. I love boring ass drama so much I almost defended Christina Hendricks in the last thread for being reduced to her looks when she's a genuinely good actress in Mad Men. I just think the Rick Prime stuff has been corny in every scene it's been brought up in so far.
>I just think the Rick Prime stuff has been corny in every scene it's been brought up in so far.
That's just you not giving it a chance considering that we don't know the depths of Rick Prime's personality, abilities, or main goals. Evil Morty was a fun character but I never became obsessed with him until Rickmurai Jack and I, and I feel confident to say that many other people as well, believe that he was handled very well as his backstory is more interesting than that cliche "He was our Rick's first Morty" theory.
That’s what I’ve noticed more than anything. A lot of people just go to Rick and Morty threads to complain and have no patience or perspective on where the show is going.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Kek, they don't even know the show's history either. I've seen multiple people complain about the show being disgusting because of Unity spreading via vomiting into people's mouths when no one b***hed that hard back when she did that in her debut episode. Then again, if they removed the vomiting and had Unity spread via some tamer method, they would b***h that the show became sanitized.
7 months ago
Anonymous
It’s tiring. The ongoing discussion of the show’s identity crisis is a lot more interesting than “everything bad, zombie show now”.
>That's just you not giving it a chance considering that we don't know the depths of Rick Prime's personality, abilities, or main goals.
He's been in one flashback montage, one scene and post-credits scene in an episode, and mentioned in at least two other episodes, and none of it has landed for me. Scratch that, him actually being in the tube was funny. I'll admit I jumped the gun a little because we haven't seen enough for me to logically explain myself. We're still in pure feels mode. For me, virtually all of it has felt awkward, forced, and like a low budget version of what I imagine MCU movies to be like. And that doesn't imbue me with confidence that future developments will be much different. I'd like to be wrong about that, trust me, but my expectations are very low. >Rickmurai Jack
I liked Evil Morty's motivation (I'd been hoping for something like that for a long time), but I struggle to think about anything else I liked about that episode, in terms of ideas and their execution, not even how the episode's tone and basic story structure. I'm obviously not a fan but despite what it might look like, I'm not a hate watcher either. Just a curious observer, hoping to be genuinely entertained like I used to be and if not, I'm fine with watching the show try to realize its vision too.
7 months ago
Anonymous
That sounds fair. My guess is that they're going for making Rick Prime a foil to Evil Morty. EM was just some random Morty "created" by Rick while RP is the catalyst for the whole show and in turn "creating" Rick. EM is what Morty would be if he wasn't held back by his (shaky) morality and unassertiveness while RP is what Rick would be if he embraced all of his worst aspects. EM is an outside-context villain while RP has a deep personal history with Rick. EM is mostly serious and laidback while RP noticeably wise-cracks more often. With all of this laid out, I don't think it's delusional to lean on the optimistic side in hoping that they do something cool with him that's equal to Evil Morty's backstory since it seems as though they have some steady groundwork to try something different. Not to mention how Evil Morty is confirmed to make his return so there's a good chance that he'll be a key player in this new arc as well.
I also can't blame you if you found Rickmurai Jack to be a bit rushed, having too much padding thanks to the dumb anime reference in the beginning, and just not being a fan of the characters' apathetic delivery as earth-shattering truths are dopped and chaos happens around them. I have no defense for the first two but as a fanboy, I'll chalk up the deadpan commentary as something that isn't worth getting worked up about seeing as how it's simply a hit or miss attempt at including comic relief. Aside from Evil Morty's history, I also thought it was cool watching him turn Rick's technology against him.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Don't fully agree with you but well said.
I've been watching this show for almost 10 years to the day. It's hard for me to articulate it but I think that being such a long timer viewer has had a major influence on how I've experienced the show's developments, even though I also recognize that other people, yourself included, could be equally long-time viewers and have a completely different experience. I'm not keen on Rick's backstory. Even during the surprise season 3 premiere (which I disliked then and still dislike now for making Rick OP, reversing his character development, and shitting a little too much on the idea of caring about the show when the "point" deep down is that not caring about things is bad for you), I was amused and relieved that it was all a ruse. Yes I realize that kind of contradicts my gripes about the episode too. Rick, to me, was a guy who ran out on his wife like he'd said before, not tragically lost her in a shoddy, cliche backstory. I think they possibly could've sold me on his current backstory regardless as long they'd never done it as a fakeout first. That's always stuck with me and I haven't fully come around to the retcon even though in hindsight they'd been setting the stage since S4 across about half a dozen episodes.
However I actually like some of the things it does for his character and the show in general. I like that after two or three seasons of fricking around and getting too Rick-ified, the show went hard in the other direction and revealed his nihilism to be pure self-destructive copium. It's a sharp turn but kind of necessary to course correct after veering too hard the other way. And I like that his character arc clearly bends towards a sort of philosophical-psychological-moral recovery through allowing himself to care again. And since RP's gonna be in it, I like how he functions as Rick's foil. RP is Rick if he was the nihilist he says he is, and that's what makes him villainous. I'm on board with that.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Rick and Morty has tried so many things and made so many mistakes, but it obviously isn’t at a point where they’re just throwing their hands in the air and saying frick it. That leads to a very odd place to be as a fan. I think we all have different expectations and hopes. I feel more confident in the show now than I did back in Season 5, at this point I’m just curious which road they take.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, this is my exact experience with the show now.
It's far from what I thought the future of the show was going to be, but there's no undoing what's already been done, they can only manage with what they've been given. I think they have the right general idea now, they just need to fix the comedic and dramatic writing to put it in practice.
rick and morty’s handling of serial story elements is terrible and an active detriment to the show’s quality. Literally just a thing that became a keychain to dangle at the beginning and end of every season as bait for people to stay invested.
The problem is that every season is constantly course correcting, and they haven’t committed to one or the other. Whenever they go more episodic people complain and want more plot and whenever they go more canon people complain and want more wacky adventures. I see the show as slowly trending better so I’m willing to be patient with this bigger story if they’re focusing on it for now. Everyone seems to hold a different opinion on this including the staff.
It's been implied that they age like in Morty's mind blowers we see Morty turn 13 but it was a flashback since in Season 1 he is 14.
With Summer she started 17 went from 18 in the first episode of Season 3 then back to 17 in Season 4(In the app ep it's Beth who calls her underaged.)
It could be explain by dimension shenanigans or the writes just forgot.
The final joke of the season will be Morty asking Rick what happened to the Rick Prime thing, and he says >oh, Morty I already told you. I killed him off screen. That wasn't sarcasm. It's just the new voice actor they have playing me is really shit.
this. also people seem to be forgetting the first two seasons... >season 1: only 2 episodes that built upon the lore and narrative (E6 and E10), 9 unrelated goody ones >season 2: only 1 episode (E10), the other 9 were unrelated and goofy
i'm not going to defend the newer seasons like they aren't steaming dogshit, but to criticize them based on that is just moronic
I think this downplays both how much lore and narrative there was in the early seasons and how much there is now. I think we're getting a lot more lore than most of us are prepared for this season.
I think that's underselling the show a little bit. The first couple seasons seeded more than sci-fi plots, backstories, and worldbuilding in a couple of "major" "lore" episodes.
Season 1 >Pilot, I guess?: introduces the galactic federation bug people, their portal travel abilities, antagonistic relationship with Rick, tells Rick's only recently moved in with the family, and implies (Prime) Beth's mom is currently dead >Meeseeks and Destroy: Beth and Jerry's teen pregnancy backstory >Rick Potion No. 9: self-evident >Rixty Minutes: Morty recalls which is the first confirmation that this show doesn't completely reset after every episode, past events become relevant again, and characters can reflect on their experiences >Close Rickcounters of the Ricked Kind: self-evident >Ricksy Business: introduces Rick's many alien friends, Birdperson's conversation with "reveals" BP and Rick are or used to be close confidants and that Rick is sadder than he lets on but the ending implies Rick's grandkids make him happy
Season 2 >this season in general consistently shows a less callous, more sympathetic side of Rick >A Rickle in Time: confirms Rick secretly loves Morty and would sacrifice himself for him without a doubt >Auto Erotic Assimilation: follows through on the implication that Rick's a sad bastard who secretly hates himself >Get Shwifty: purposefully conspicuous photo of Rick with a baby Morty in BP's house, Tammy comes back as BP's fiancee >Look Who's Purging Now: first glimpse at Morty's growing anger issues, resentment of Rick, and combat competency—additionally back when that aired it seemed to signal that Morty might be going down the path Evil Morty did and that Rick's/Ricks' mistreatment of Morty/Morties is to blame >The Wedding Squanchers: self-evident
In a more general sense, I think season 1 and 2 have better character work than the middle seasons even though it was much looser and more comedic in tone than what we're getting now.
At the end of the day, Season 1 and 2 worked as well as they did for two reasons:
1. Writing team was different and on a different page than the current one.
2. The characters were carefully constructed to facilitate the original incarnation of the show.
In season 3 the direction they developed the characters broke the dynamic. Rick was the runaway most popular character and they flanderized him into a Chadgod instead of what he was. More importantly Morty became too jaded and confident to serve his original function. The show tried to go more silly but the foundations have been changed. All they can do at this point is follow the arcs and either ride that out or use the plot to rebuild the characters so they have a dynamic that generates wacky adventures again. Rick is slowly being knocked off his pedestal but Morty is still not functional.
It’s the equivalent of giving character development to Spongebob and making him cynical, and refocusing the show on Squidward. You can’t go back without rebreaking the bone and setting it in a new way.
I'm not ignorant to the fact that you could grasp at straws like this just as much in post-S2 episodes. I do think those first couple seasons have a different attitude and presentation of its characters, story, and worldbuilding though which I prefer to the ones that followed them. I wouldn't know how to explain why, but the first two's relationship with broader story elements feels healthier and more relaxed and natural to me where the later ones more often tend come off neurotic, mechanical, gauche, or uninspired.
How does Parmesan dimension Unity know about Rick hunting Prime Rick? That happened at least 3-4 dimensions back, does that mean there were 3-4 Ricks with lives identical to C-137 including having their family killed by Prime Rick?
maybe? Rick did say they only have a small handful of Universes they could move too. I assume it's because hes looking at universes with very specific histories that match his own
>How does Parmesan dimension Unity know about Rick hunting Prime Rick?
Maybe Unity transcend dimension? Maybe all of the Unity carriers of all of realities are all mentally connected, forming a single being, regardless of what reality they are in?
Why does Parmesan Dimension also have a Mr. Poopybutthole with beef against Beth? Why does it also have a Birdperson who presumably was revived by Parmesan Rick and went on to rescue his daughter from the Federation? The show kind of demands you accept that the supporting cast and their relations to Rick/Morty/etc. carry over with each dimensional hop.
Impossible because C-137 was inhabiting Prime Rick's dimension, while none of the others that died and were replaced did that
Different Prime Rick
These are good points tho. It's possible that Rick Prime killed multiple Beths and Dianes, creating multiple near-identical Ricks who each cracked portal travel and moved in with alternate Beths (like Memory Rick insinuated). I don't want to get my hopes up and expect the writers to actually keep this in mind or do anything with this, but I guess the one thing that makes OUR Rick special is that he grew attached to Morty Prime, so of the several dimension-hopping Ricks, ours is the one most closely tied to Rick Prime.
Actually Birdperson is from Bird Dimension so it's the same one from S1, though it does raise the question does every other Rick have their own Birdperson from each from an alt Bird Dimension
I think Birdperson is just from a Bird planet without knowledge or concern for other dimensions which is why after the Battle at Blood Ridge when young Rick was ranting about the multiverse Birdperson just brushed him off.
Because Rick finds dimensions literally identical to his current one when he moves; its not literally the same Unity but a Unity that had all the same interactions with the Rick that died and got replaced. People have the worst media literacy; this shit was explained, that's why it's hard to jump realities
nta, but the show still depicts our Rick's life as being special and unique, which clashes with him being able to relocate to another universe where a Rick with a nearly identical life lived.
They still haven't explicitly said what it means that Rick Prime is in multiple places at once. I'm convinced that the answer is that Rick Prime is exactly as easily-replaced as Rick C-137. Remember, at the beginning of the series, Rick C-137 moved onto Rick Prime's Earth. The Cronenberg swap implies the existence of another Rick who's just as close to Rick Prime as the dead Rick in C-131 was to Rick C-137. The Frundle swap implies the existence of yet another Rick Prime-alike. And so on.
There are presumably multiple Citadels, too, although it feels kind of late to mention it; ideally it would have been brought up as the excuse for bringing the Citadel back after Rick destroyed it in S3E01.
That's pretty much what I've been thinking too. I hope the writers canonize this at some point so that it doesn't just remain a giant elephant in the room.
That's pretty much what I've been thinking too. I hope the writers canonize this at some point so that it doesn't just remain a giant elephant in the room.
But if there's only one Rick Prime that would mean there were multiple Ricks who all went to Rick Prime's dimension, hung out with his Morty (the one we know), Cronenberg'd his dimension, fled to another identical dimension, Frundled that one etc
With most stuff you could make the excuse it's that universe's version of that person/event etc, but when you include the stuff that's supposedly unique in the multiverse and C-137 interacted with it, then it becomes impossible to replicate multiversally
>3 episodes into post-Roiland R&M >Every episode is "remember those 3 or 4 things from previous seasons? They're back and poorly written!"
The new VA gets better with every episode but that hasn't helped the season rise above 6/10 toothless slop. The comedic timing is off, the edge is gone, the plots are lame, and for whatever reason Morty hasn't really been in any episodes yet.
If I recall correctly, season 9 was partially written when the Justin Roiland news broke, so maybe only the last season and a half will be truly post-Roiland.
I dunno I kinda like this season and how it seems to focus more on Rick's relationships with the overall cast and world instead of just Morty. that being said Morty does need to be used more
Not too bad. Happy to see Unity again and that they kept her OG design the Head Unity. The invasion was cool.
Don't think we needed to dive into the President's psyche.
While she is hot, I'm of the belief that they kept the old design simply because they think their audience is moronic and wouldn't recognize the character unless there was a visual similarity.
Left a bad taste in my mouth, honestly.
Yeah, that was lame. Unity is a lot cooler when it's a true hivemind completely removed from the human idea of personhood.
its so weird to have a season without morty as a actual character.
i think they really have no ideas on what to do with him
>its so weird to have a season without morty as a actual character. >i think they really have no ideas on what to do with him
I didn't think I'd feel his absence this much. It's like they developed him too fast and now have nowhere to take him, or they're so fixated on Rick they haven't bothered to think about what's entertaining or interesting about Morty.
Other hiveminds are said to exist so Unity likely chose to keep that one woman because it's her equivalent of her favorite dress along with hopefully winning back Rick considering that the assimilated woman was the one he had the most interaction with. Also, how would the audience be moronic enough to not recognize the one of two hive minds they've seen, whose name is outright stated, only because a one-off background character wasn't present.
no don't you understand we need 9 episodes of rick talking about his feelings and growing as a person because dan harmon started going to therapy in 2015
Since I was watching from the mega without the subtitles I thought the last line was "Jesus Carl, youtube"
Thought they were making fun of the youtube Alt-right pipeline.
She tried calling him and he didn't answer, she doesn't know what state he lives in, and even if she's aware of things like googling someone's name and finding their personal info, Rick is probably the type to scrub anything there is on him.
“AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE UNITY-SAMA WONG-SAMA HELP ME I WAS WRONG I’M A TERRIBLE PERSON PLEASE I’LL DO BETTER I’LL RESSURECT DIANE AND LET HER TELL ME HOW AWFUL I AM AND HAVE A THREEWAY WITH YOU AND OBAMA JUST PLEASE SAVE ME YABBA DABBA DOO THAT’S MY CATCHPHRASE I’M CHUDDY RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK”
>chance of being good
Unmortricken (#5)
Rickfending Your Mort (#6)
Fear No Mort (#10) >wildcard
Wet Kuat Amortican Summer (#7), looks like Morty's Mind Blowers 2.0 >dude religion lol
Mort: Ragnorick (#9) >I don't care about this
That's Amorte (#4) >dogshit
Numbericons (#8)
so what are we calling the Rick from this episodes? The gay groveled before scientology and apologized every other breath, b***h Rick needs to frick off and die.
Nahh I trust that they respect the character and have big plans for him. Maybe the writers just want to hold off on any big moments in store with him, since Harmon wants this show to run for 1000 episodes or some shit. S6 literally ended in a two-parter about Morty not respecting Rick since he's always being left in the dark.
more like sane, rick is literally autistic (its implied in several episodes) while he is good at building a bunch of tech stuff she is good with dealing with people, a thing rick isnt good at
why i have the feeling Rick will develop a huge attachment to her, a bizzare mixing of passion, love and kinda of a ''mom figure'', only for some twist reveal to apper and show a side of her Rick was not expecting breaking all his expectations making rick fall into another depression, back to his old self.
>Hear your old friend is killing themselves >Try to reach out, no response >Do something drastic to establish contact >Friend not only tells you to frick off, but does the equivalent of cutting off your finger >In so doing, he escalates your drastic measure into something life threatening >Accept your friend’s boundaries, try to warn him about the danger and how you can fix it before disaster strikes >Tells you he doesn’t trust you (effectively retroactively calling the entire friendship into question) belittles your injury and tells you to frick off again >Oblige >Disaster strikes >Comes crawling back for help only after he’s run out of options >Oblige, go through an immense level of pain to make things right
HURR RICK WAS RIGHT GUYZ
The show portrays fricking around with Rick Prime as effectively killing yourself.
>>Do something drastic to establish contact
See, that's where Unity fricked up. The fact that even you admit it was something drastic means that it wasn't the best course of action to contact Rick. She fricked with Rick's planet knowing fully well it could backfire horribly, both for her and the planet. It's her fault.
She tried to reach out in a normal way, and it didn’t work. She went to find him in the only way she knew how, and was explicitly shown to go above and beyond to take care of her temporary hosts.
she could have hired a merc to deliver a message or just sent one drone.
but then we wouldn't have a heckin girl power episode where rick and the president are helpless babies who need to be saved by a therapist and a backround character.
>The show portrays fricking around with Rick Prime
no, only unity says so. Unity who refused to speak to rick the last time they talked. He refuses to speak to her the same way but she doesn't let it go like he did so he has to reply to her and he gets justifiably angry.
>The show portrays fricking around with Rick Prime as effectively killing yourself.
not one single person actually, genuinely believes prime rick won't job out of his mind if ever used again
Nah. Rick’s been set up for a MAJOR fall coming up (on par with the finale of Season 2). The third time they confront each other Rick will overcome, though.
>on par with the finale of Season 2
you're saying this as if that episode wasn't inmediatedly followed by Rick getting out of prision, gaslighting the space cia while they're reading his own mind, dabbing on the entire galactic federation and essentially getting away scot free
it's been 7 seasons and there have been zero (0) consecuences for anything that has happened besides the cronengberg shit, which was retconned into rick not even caring about it in the first place cuz of rick prime. you're insane if you're actually treating any threat this show presents seriously at all
7 months ago
Anonymous
S3E1 was the biggest mistake made in the entire show, yeah. My instinct is they’re going to be making right on that mistake soon. It’s clear from how they’ve steered the show since S6 that they’re trying to undo a lot of the issues S3 caused.
7 months ago
Anonymous
why, exactly, would they course correct now? you're giving them way too much credit
7 months ago
Anonymous
He's a troll killing time.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Every season since S3 has been a course correction, and despite rolling eyes at their fans they have been addressing complaints given to them. Right now the show’s biggest problem is that Morty and Rick’s relationship has grown to a place that can’t generate stories people want to see. Rick’s philosophical position has dominated the cast. Starting with S6, Rick has actually been allowed to grow. Morty will be next.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Every season since S3 has been a course correction
jesus this is some grade A industrial copium right there
7 months ago
Anonymous
No, just paying attention. The show’s identity crisis has consistently been present and interesting.
7 months ago
Anonymous
It baffles me how well S3E1 is received. S3E7 is overrated as well, though it doesn't bother me as much.
>>Do something drastic to establish contact
See, that's where Unity fricked up. The fact that even you admit it was something drastic means that it wasn't the best course of action to contact Rick. She fricked with Rick's planet knowing fully well it could backfire horribly, both for her and the planet. It's her fault.
I would hope you would help and old friend if they’re killing themselves, even if you didn’t leave on good terms.
she could have hired a merc to deliver a message or just sent one drone.
but then we wouldn't have a heckin girl power episode where rick and the president are helpless babies who need to be saved by a therapist and a backround character.
She stated she didn’t know where he was and could only establish contact in the way she did.
>The show portrays fricking around with Rick Prime
no, only unity says so. Unity who refused to speak to rick the last time they talked. He refuses to speak to her the same way but she doesn't let it go like he did so he has to reply to her and he gets justifiably angry.
>Only Unity says so
The show portrays her as correct. We haven’t seen it, but you’re asked to assume she’s correct (Rick doesn’t even disagree).
>girl breaks up with YOU >meaning she no longer sees you as a viable partner >somehow, if you don't respond to her random calls YOU are the butthole despite the fact SHE broke up with you >this is also ghosting, somehow
Rick didn't ghost her. She showed up uninvited instead of taking the hint. Make it make sense, sis.
Rick was not obligated to be nice or return a phone call, but he was obligated as a moral agent to prioritize the wellbeing of the innocent people in the middle of his and Unity’s bullshit. His lack of trust in her to not take over the planet and leave goes beyond the appropriate response even if you never want to see this girl again (due to the pain the breakup caused). Not trusting her is calling into question who she is as a person, and is effectively saying that what they had meant nothing to him, that she’s more than an ex, but an enemy. He injured her, refused to let her make things right and jeopardized others while doing so.
>unity is a monster who strips the free will from those it infects.
The fanbase seems to forget that Unity's whole deal is wanting to assimilate the universe. In her first episode she planned to infiltrate the galactic federation so she could spread far and wide.
Her being hot distracts from the terror she is.
Unity taking over Virginia to talk Rick off a ledge is understandable and coming from a good place.
Damn, looks like I got fooled. I thought you were a sincere fanboy coping but in reality you're just trolling. You've bamboozled me.
Not at all.
7 months ago
Anonymous
The road to hell is aved with good intentions
7 months ago
Anonymous
Unity took care of them and handled it as well as she should have. Both her and Rick had understandable motivations, but Rick handled the situation poorly. The episode implied that their history together justified a different response.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>The episode implied that their history together justified a different response.
Considering what we saw of their history together as well as the way they split up last time it didn't. If it actually did, it's a failure on the writer's part to not have showed it better.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I can agree that they left a little too much up to their offscreen history to be as persuasive as possible.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>The episode implied
This is such a peasant way of thinking.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, media literacy is pretty great.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm media literate because I refuse to use critical thinking
Enjoy your scraps, peasant.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Exact opposite. I’m media literate because I’m able to think critically enough to see how characters act and understand the deeper conflict happening. I don’t need motivations or exposition said to the camera to understand.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>I don’t need motivations or exposition said to the camera to understand.
All of the motivations were stated directly to the camera, not only in this episode, but in most Rick and Morty episodes. Rick and Morty also loves to tell the audience exactly what the moral of each episode is, and you're here telling everyone who thinks that the writers botched the moral that they're wrong because the writers said so.
7 months ago
Anonymous
In my opinion they’re wrong because consistently the people complaining about it are making improper comparisons. The writers could have improved their moral with a slightly better portrayal of their offscreen history and/or a better address of their first episode, but that’s not what people are complaining about. People are saying either the show was making a weird feminist statement or that Unity is insane.
7 months ago
Anonymous
The writers could've improved the moral by picking a character other than Unity and making them do something less extreme than assimilating Virginia into their hivemind.
Maybe the show has too much faith in people to empathize with non-human motivations. Unity was carefully portrayed as the most sympathetic version of herself but if you still can’t accept it, it is what it is.
>This unrepentant serial rapist was carefully portrayed as the most sympathetic version of herself but if you still can’t accept it, it is what it is.
Listen to yourself.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Rapist
Lol
It's weird IMO how hating S3E01 seems to be the default opinion around here now. I remember how hyped everyone was when it came out; at the time I would have considered it an insane fringe opinion and probably outright contrarianism to not put it in the top tier of RAM episodes. There are real criticisms I'd advance of it, but overall it's certainly what I think of as "peak Rick And Morty", and I'd tend to assume most other people who like the show feel the same, assuming they're not normies who fell for the Cringe McDonalds Sauce Incident meme.
Is it actually the default opinion around here, or is it just one anon or a few anons who post a lot? Did some people see that it was by far the lowest-Neilsen-rated episode of the show, base their opinion on that, and fail to notice that it was purely because it aired unannounced as an April Fools' Day gimmick, and it very likely would have been the highest-rated episode of the show if it had airead as a regular season premiere?
It was the moment where they decided to commit to a direction that broke the characters. Harmon wanted to wax on his divorce and ascended Rick to Godhood and it was the moment Morty stopped being the main character. In isolation the episode is actually fun, but in context modern Rick and Morty is a direct result of how they decided to handle S2’s finale.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>thinking rape is funny
How insensitive.
7 months ago
Anonymous
This seems to me less like the episode itself picked a bad direction, and more like they later failed to properly follow through on the direction they set up. The season three premiere suggests exactly the direction I wanted for the show: something where Rick is an incredibly powerful and incredibly malevolent antagonist, like a more comedic version of Moral Orel where Clay is like a god. If I had to point to an episode that defined the worse aspects of the show's direction over the past few seasons, it'd much more likely be Pickle Rick. Pickle Rick is like a cruel failed impression of the season three premiere. Why it became a breakout meme, I have little idea. I know normies really like "comedy" about food. It inherently gets lolrandom points with them or something.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Totally fair. I want Rick to be redeemed but if you want Rick to decline then it makes sense you’d feel differently.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Dude, relax.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>thought terminating cliche
7 months ago
Anonymous
I prefer constructive effortposts to whining.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I get you. I also think that not treating Rick as the villain is perhaps the biggest mistake of the entire series.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I get you. I also think that not treating Rick as the villain is perhaps the biggest mistake of the entire series.
That’s interesting. I’ve never once thought that way. I always thought this show was going to slowly heal the character relationships. To me, the only appropriate conclusion for this series is to determine that things do matter in the face of nihilism. I guess you can get there with evil Rick and redeemed Rick.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Cool another disingenuous post.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You could just write a bot that appends this to random Cinemaphile comments
7 months ago
Anonymous
Don’t be a douche.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You don't have to be pro-nihilism to be anti-Rick. I highly doubt that anyone in the audience would be willing to forgive him if his actions were the same but the framing was less sympathetic.
7 months ago
Anonymous
No no, I agree, I just thought of how they’d tell that story differently. To me the answer was to develop Morty as the philosophical opponent to Rick’s mindset and slowly grow them together. But if Rick goes full evil that would also work. I like Rick and want him to be redeemed, even in death, but evil Rick is a valid hope.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>This seems to me less like the episode itself picked a bad direction, and more like they later failed to properly follow through on the direction they set up.
The thing is, they did. Seasons 3 promised the darkest year of their adventure and it delivered. It planted all the seeds that would go on to damage the show.
Season 3 pushes the idea of Rick and Morty having a toxic relationship. While Rick is definitely an butthole, he wasn't really a monster to Morty. Season 3 Rick traumatizes Morty in episodes like Vindicators for no real reason.
Season 3 tries too hard to be smart. Sometimes it works like with the Citadel episode, but more often than not you get shit like Wong and "Worse, you're smart".
Speaking of which, Beth is ruined beyond repair. Season 1 and 2 Beth kissed Rick's ass because she doesn't want Rick to leave. Season 3 says Beth is just like Rick in the worst way possible, revealing she was actually an evil kid, something that is never implied or used again in future episodes. Ever since then she's just been cringey and it created Space Beth too.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Hot take but I think Space Beth is a possible path to improving Beth if they dedicate the time.
7 months ago
Anonymous
NTA but as people have said, she could of just possessed the Senator and tracked Rick down via using his government connections or power play. Plus she went out of her way to atagonize Rick by not only making the hive minded people have an orgy without their consent, but also made Virginia "couples only" to rub it into Rick's face that he's single. Thst's not the actions of someone who cares, that's crybully mean girl bullshit. >TL;DR
Unless you like to be drugged and made to suck an anon's wiener while getting anally annilated by an alien strap-on, Unity raped those peoplr and sadly you might be the biggest homosexual in this thread anon.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You’re cracked out
7 months ago
Anonymous
And sadly you're a shillgay. Best unclench and get the shaft out your ass before they leave you prolapsed like a haypenny harlot.
>Break up with girl >Keep calling her number despite never picking up >Leave notes on her car window shield and mail box >Show up one day on her front lawn with presents and chocolate because I was afraid she might "hurt herself" >I'm the bad guy in this situation
Yea this is sane behavior that can't possibly escalate into something else.
Honestly this description still downplays how much of the bad guy Unity was being, because it doesn't have anything even slightly comparable to stealing the bodies of the population of fricking Virginia
Yes, by a lot. Rick is currently going towards the equivalent of suicide.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah so was the girl who broke up with the frog poster from his perspective. Very apt comparison.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Presents and chocolate
No, it’s not. Cartoonishly incorrect.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Anon if green text was occurring in real life it would be clear tell signs of a stalker about to turn abuser. Especially when the people in question had a messy breakup that involved a third party mid way.
Maybe you're just too much a simp to see, but that shit ends in restraining orders or death.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You’re making a false comparison to what’s really going on in the show.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Show side steps the entire creep act by centering the issue on Rick engaging in dangerous behavior and showing that he did need to improve. We even go so far as to blame Rick for not picking up the phone the first time.
If I beat my wife but it did lead to her getting her shit together as a more responsible person, we would not be quiet about the steps it took to reach that idea or claim it wouldn't have gone that far if she took to heart the first time I yelled at her.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>We even go so far as to blame Rick for not picking up the phone the first time.
Wrong. >If I beat my wife
False comparison.
The episode works because:
A. They are portrayed as having a history that’s more than just a fling (old friends that still care for eachother)
B. Rick is heading towards his own destruction (suicide)
C. Rick’s reaction to being reached out to caused more harm than the reaching out itself by a lot
Rick would have had the high road if he had told her to frick off without injuring her or trusting her to leave without the threat of physical violence. Instead he made the mistake that just because she broke up with him that she can’t be trusted not to be a monster (which invalidates everything they had in the past). He fricked up, he knows he fricked up and trying to compare it improperly to a scenario in your head is just reaching for something to get mad at.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>A.
We got introduced to them in one ep. They had a history and in same ep he ends up cucked by another hive mind. That wasn't good end and was presumably the worst end they've had.
>B.
True. But guess what? Thats not up to your EX to bang the door down and force themselves into your life over. Especially when they are such good "friends" that they know you have your own support network or at least people who are still in your life.
>C
He didn't pick up and ignored all calls. Thats his right.
You can't go show up on your ex's front door, school, work, etc because they haven't responded to you but have history of suicide. It is literal creep behavior.
Rick's reactions to her reasoning sucked sure, but guess what? He didn't owe her a face to face to begin with. Just because you dicked down someone in the past doesn't give them a skeleton key to your life whenever they want.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>They got introduced in one ep
And that history was expounded upon this episode (Unity’s and Rick’s actions).
>It’s not up to your EX
Clearly they have that kind of history that it was appropriate in a life or death situation.
>History of suicide
False comparison. It’s not the equivalent of “he might be thinking about offing himself again” it’s “he’s going to the roof with the intention to jump off”
>That’s his right
100% as was his right to refuse to talk or receive help. The moment he told her to frick off she obliged, but he did more than that. He didn’t just say get away from me, he injured her and put others in a situation he couldn’t fix. He didn’t have the trust as a friend that she would leave without incident. He had to come crawling back because he let his emotion get in the way of his logic or knowledge of who she is. The lesson of the episode was that just because an old friend caused you pain, doesn’t mean they’re a monster.
At the end of the day you’re extrapolating on one action taken out of good faith and with good reason, in a crisis situation and you’re blowing it into this false equivalence fanfiction relating to a domestic situation, and you’re not properly looking at how Rick decided to react. How an adult should react to their Ex crossing a boundary you deem unacceptable.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>If I beat my wife
False comparison because what she did was so much worse than that.
>Unity takes over Virgina >Makes it exclusively for lovers since her and Rick used to bang >Rick is to busy jerking off to Interdeminisal Cable to notice her trying to reach out by taking over a state.
>girl breaks up with YOU >meaning she no longer sees you as a viable partner >somehow, if you don't respond to her random calls YOU are the butthole despite the fact SHE broke up with you >this is also ghosting, somehow
Rick didn't ghost her. She showed up uninvited instead of taking the hint. Make it make sense, sis.
Why am I expected to care about any of these recurring or returning characters when it's not even the same ones.
Not the same Unity, not the same Dr. Wong, not the same President, who gives a shit
sorry but I don't see how rick was in any way to blame for what happened in episode 3
what unity did was actually psychotic
he's moving on and bettering himself but somehow he needs to be the one to prove himself to her when she's the one that walked out on him in the first place
consider this
you have an ex, they randomly show up trespassing at your house
do you trust them to just go away or are you getting a restraining order?
same thing
I don’t think this context directly translates to an earth relationship but if it did you’re forgetting that the only reason she’s reaching out is she thinks you’re killing yourself, and it’s not a restraining order it’s pointing a shotgun at her face and ordering her to frick off. Rick endangered those people and effectively put his heartache above anything else including all of his history with her. He didn’t owe her a cordial discussion, but he did owe her the benefit of the doubt.
S4+5 was an attempt to lean more into fricking around and it was the low point of the series. Season 6+7 is doing more canon in earnest, probably in an attempt to get the character dynamics down to facilitate more classic adventures later.
The lie that Rick believed was that just because Unity hurt him with how she ended their relationship she can’t be trusted not to act like a monster. He can’t be faulted for not wanting to talk to his ex, and Unity can’t be faulted for being concerned that he’s rushing to his death. What he can be faulted with is how he chose to react, putting his emotions above logic.
Wait, so is Season 7 Unity even the same Unity as in Season 2 or whatever? Haven't they jumped universes several times since then (squirrels, frundles, etc.)
The show has not done a good job of explaining that. We’ve gotten indications that these somehow are the same characters, but no indications of how that could be. Timegod Jessica? Something bigger going on?
the squirrels where a gag so im pretty sure they were not canon, but im pretty sure everyone just jumps universes, or atleast someting similar, its not explained in the same way the floating timeline isnt explained (why morty does not get older, etc) its a plot hole to keep the rhythm going because explaining this stuff is boring
Wait, so is Season 7 Unity even the same Unity as in Season 2 or whatever? Haven't they jumped universes several times since then (squirrels, frundles, etc.)
I don't think the squirrels were "not canon" - that's stupid - but I do think that they probably didn't actually wind up jumping universes over them. The memory pointedly cut out before any actual universe jumping happened. If they did actually jump universes over it, Solaricks probably demonstrated that it didn't wind up mattering, but I think it's more likely that Rick did wind up finding a better solution after all.
The easiest way to handwave that would be that the squirrel memory belongs to the Morty that lived in that dimension before getting killed and replaced in Rick Potion #9.
We all tend to assume that the same things that happen to our duo happen across the multiverse but this isn't always true considering that the Rick and Morty they switched their Jerry with in Mortynight Run managed to avoid the plot of said episode all because that Morty decided not to be a hero and try to save the fart cloud, instead choosing to goof off with Rick at Blitz and Chitz.
7 months ago
Anonymous
The thing is that with the Cronenberg swap and the Frundles swap, it's explicitly stated that Rick found a dimension exactly equivalent to the old one (the only different detail with the Frundles swap being the pronunciation of "parmesan"). Of course, Rick could easily be exaggerating the similarity in an attempt to calm Morty and the family down, but it would definitely be a surprising reveal if we learned about any other or more major differences.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Someone in the previous thread mentioned that the upcoming Rick's famous spaghetti episode could be about the chaos unfolding once someone in the family, likely Jerry, slips up and pronounces it as "parmesan" instead of that reality's pronunciation. The idea of crazy shit happening as a result of that sounds like it would be fun considering that the episode goes out of its way to present itself as innocuous and unexciting in every trailer and promo for it.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Lol that’d be hilarious. But even if That’s Amorte DOESN’T turn out to be plot-heavy, I’m still looking forward to another Vat of Acid surprise.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Someone in the previous thread mentioned that the upcoming Rick's famous spaghetti episode could be about the chaos unfolding once someone in the family, likely Jerry, slips up and pronounces it as "parmesan" instead of that reality's pronunciation.
Creative idea, but I don't think even this batch of writers would feel bold enough to rest a big, series-changing event on an idiot like Jerry pronouncing a word slightly wrong. I'm still expecting a Parmesan joke though. It's probably all over the advertising because they think it's their best one-off and/or they think it has the most "iconic" imagery in the sense that it's easy to identify and memorable.
7 months ago
Anonymous
For what it's worth, I think That's Amorte might be the Blade one because the backgrounds look similar between the trailer and the title reveal.
Supposedly they go to a near identical universe each time so the same things happened and it's effectively the same characters. But yeah it really cheapens everything when you know Rick accidentally destroying the universe while drunk or something has zero consequences because he'll just yell "yaba dubba dubdub" and portal to a fresh one.
While that would be the worst reason for me, I could accept it if from now on Rick refuses to jump dimensions and abandon the people around him from now on. Perhaps he’ll be tested on that. The show seems to want to have us believe he’s changed enough to care about the specific versions of his family and friends again.
Why does Parmesan Dimension also have a Mr. Poopybutthole with beef against Beth? Why does it also have a Birdperson who presumably was revived by Parmesan Rick and went on to rescue his daughter from the Federation? The show kind of demands you accept that the supporting cast and their relations to Rick/Morty/etc. carry over with each dimensional hop.
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These are good points tho. It's possible that Rick Prime killed multiple Beths and Dianes, creating multiple near-identical Ricks who each cracked portal travel and moved in with alternate Beths (like Memory Rick insinuated). I don't want to get my hopes up and expect the writers to actually keep this in mind or do anything with this, but I guess the one thing that makes OUR Rick special is that he grew attached to Morty Prime, so of the several dimension-hopping Ricks, ours is the one most closely tied to Rick Prime.
Rick is a main character. Right now they’re trying to do a 180 on Rick being the most philosophically correct person in the show. His worldview was justified over and over again to the point where he became a Gary Stu and the rest of the characters became more like him. Now that the show wants to walk it back to either a happy medium or admit that Rick’s POV is the cope that it truly is and things do matter, he needs to develop, and in order to develop he needs to be wrong. This was not a gendered episode in terms of the text.
>Rick being the most philosophically correct person in the show
When the frick was that lmao
Rick may have been right or defeated his enemies multiple times but he's a wreck and always has been. He has no real friend, horrendrous relationship with his family, spend his time doing egoistical dumb shit because he can and has no real goal in life. This is shown from the very episode. Unless you're a redditor you can't possibly think Rick is philosophically correct.
Rick is wrong ultimately but the show justified his beliefs very hard in Season 3 (the most), 4 and 5 (compared to Season 2). Jerry not being the buttmonkey anymore and actually serving to balance the worldview is a big step. Season 6 was another big step in affirming thst this specific family matters (to the audience and Rick). Season 7 so far is doubling down on that with his friends and Unity. Prime is the conduit for Rick to attack his demons head on, pay the price and come out the other side having changed in some way. We don’t know exactly how yet. To me the most interesting piece of the puzzle is what they’ll do with Morty, who is also due for a character shift.
so what are we thinking?
slightly better than episode 1, much worse than episode 2?
I appreciate that they're trying to do some character development, at least there's an attempt at something. but I didn't even smirk a single time and not because there was no attempt at humor. also, the president is another one-note character that doesn't deserve more screentime
In my opinion S7E1 is the worst episode in the show and it isn’t close, easily dethroning the sperm episode, so it isn’t even in the conversation.
I prefer S7E3 to S7E2 but I can acknowledge S7E2 was funnier. Both I’d call good, not great. Feels like they are planting seeds for bigger ideas later.
It was actually kind of funny, but the therapist dragged it down hard, from the dumb love square with the president to blaming Rick for Unity being a c**t
As far as being the followup to my favorite episode from when the show was good, it could have been way worse. I like what it’s doing for the characters, but it’s ultimately not funny enough to be enjoyable in a vacuum. Maybe in retrospect it’ll be better, but for right now it was kind of just fine.
It feels like another overcorrection. Season 3 imploded what the show had going and they’ve been playing catchup ever since. Season 4 and 5 was an attempt at being more goofy and adventure focused and that led to some trash shitpost episodes, and Season 6 and so far 7 has been an attempt to refocus on canon and character but now at the expense of humor. My hope is after this Prime arc we’ll have a big return to a balance of fun and pathos. At least the show is being more earnest in the meantime.
I thought episode 2 was a decent balance of fun and character development
episode 3 was all character development, no fun
and episode 1 was just a nothingburger, entirely skippable
They’re doing a great job of fixing Rick. I think Jerry is better. I think Beth and Summer could use improvement but are trending in the correct direction. The real missing link is Morty. Morty’s chemistry with Rick has been pretty much shattered. They need to find a new dynamic that makes them work as a duo, because for right now Jerry and Rick are closer to the original dynamic of Rick and Morty than current Rick and Morty.
I didn't even watch episode 2 this seasona dn I feel like I didn't miss anything.
Remember when this show was Rick and Morty and not "Therapy Hour with Rick Sanchez"
The producers have even publicly admitted to it. They're stretching out the overarching narrative by limiting it to 1 or 2 episodes a season like lorefans have caught on. The question is how they can still treat the show as another "never-ending adult animated sitcom." Even South Park with its occasional story arcs and lasting consequences doesn't have tons of buildup or require payoffs the way Rick and Morty does.
Not sure if that view will hold up after this season. It looks like this is a lore-heavier one - what I'm seeing of it makes it look like it'll have far more continuity stuff than any past season.
True. The surprise Memory Rick cameo last week and the Rick Prime mention last night give me hope. Still not enough to wash the taste of Poopy out of my mouth tho
7 months ago
Anonymous
If you go through the list, literally every remaining episode looks like it inherently pushes some kind of crazy lore shit forwards, and the last two episodes already had more lore than it looked like they would. >S7E04: "Rick's famous spaghetti"; the episode getting teased the most; has been compared to Vat Of Acid; mysterious >S7E05: mysterious Rick Prime bait we know practically nothing about; we've been told there are big changeups in the middle of the season >S7E06: direct Roy sequel >S7E07: mind-blowers sequel >S7E08: likely shitpost episode, but still, Water-T sequel >S7E09: Bigfoot kills Rick??? >S7E10: season finale, Evil Morty has been teased for it
7 months ago
Anonymous
: season finale, Evil Morty has been teased for it
what else is there to do with evil morty? he's not a threat to rick or anyone really. his goal was to escape the curve and he did just that. am i missing something?
Roiland himself contributed to the culture that destroyed his career and would have just as easily stuck the knife into someone else for the same thing. He had it coming
I disagree, but I have to admit that it's to Summer's discredit that I'm seriously considering the idea that Beth is more attractive than her, even though she's way out of my age range. To be fair, we do have a young version of Beth established in the show, who totally mogs her grown design
yeah the incest part is adds to the appeal too enough though i’m not really into incest there are rare occasions when it does something for me and with summer is one of those occasions
Do you do art? You seem like the type that does art.
7 months ago
Anonymous
no unfortunately i wish i did
There are subtitles, dumbass
i don’t like to watch american toons in non american dub exactly how i don’t like watching anime in non jap dub anyways i did find this though which fuels my desire of cute e-girl summer even more
Older sister appeal is a part of it but I think Summer would make for a really comfy girlfriend. She’s level headed and easygoing, but not without passion for what she’s interested in. She’s relatively stable (for a girl her age) but just insecure enough to benefit from a healthy relationship. She’s smart enough to have a good conversation with, but not so much so that she’s obnoxious. She’s had enough experience to have a practical outlook on life, but she’s not so far gone that she can’t relate to “normies”. She craves connection, and is likely to be devoted to where she gets it. She’s got a good sense of humor, and is in touch with her masculine and feminine side. She strikes me as on the path to being a cool mom too.
Really her biggest flaws are a little basic b***h feminist insecurity (and a good relationship with a man would clear that right up) and a social media addiction (ditto). Moreso than a lot of female characters, she’d actually be pretty compatible with most decent dudes in real life (Not necessarily super strict on looks but she has reasonable standards). She was more vapid in the early seasons but that has slowly gone away.
those are too perfect and hot i like the too (excluding the alien) but summer’s appeal is different she sells the normal highschooler part pretty well which makes her hot i guess like the appeal of e-girl in anime but not really e-girl also since we’re talking about hot r&m characters i think planetina deserves a mention
On that topic, was anyone else really surprised on rewatches to discover that Planetina was actually supposed to be understood as a milf type? On my first watch, I very confidently understood her as equivalent to Morty's age or younger; I thought that Beth was being pedantic and it was a Peter Pan situation where she was a magical being whose chronological age was meaningless. But on rewatches, no, she's definitely supposed to be a /ss/ physical and (???) mental adult; Beth's discomfort on her was based on a visual read of her age, not just based on her literally having been around in the '90s.
mhhh i didn’t rewatch but from my only watch i always saw it as a big age gap relationship thing because of the size difference and morty mum’s disapproval
I realized earlier today that if they ever do a Morticia episode the obvious title is She's The Mort. There are lots of different gimmicks they could do for it, but the one that occurred to me today was a (classic Adventure Time) Fionna And Cake-style thing where it's just an episode arbitrarily set in a 63ed universe for no reason.
Couple of seasons ago, before the Planetina episode dropped, I was working off of incomplete information and came to the conclusion that they were going to do a romcom-style episode where Morty dated a Morticia. That certainly would have been something. Kind of redundant territory now with the Beths, though.
Yeah I think they probably cashed that in with them. If Morti interacts it’ll probably be as friends maybe they experiment in an episode but not a permanent mainstay. I think the best candidate for the mortybowl is oddly bird daughter right now.
7 months ago
Anonymous
It's certainly a possibility! I do find Jessica rather likelier, though. I don't think the time god thing was actually a permanent closing of that thread, and she's been there from episode one. I also have suspicions that Birddaughter is going to wind up in an antagonistic role.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Fair play, that’s totally possible. I think Jessica has a lot of potential energy there.
I also feel the need to note that I have an audience-trolling gimmick in mind for She's The Mort, which is that some major canon shit goes down during it, but we don't get to see the canon version of it because we're stuck watching the genderswapped version instead. Some big plot payoff on the order of Rick Prime getting defeated, and we missed it because the camera happened to be tuned to the Rita-And-Morticia-'verse at the time instead. People would fricking riot. It'd be great.
We're three episodes in but it just feels Season 7 is a lot more different than other seasons.
First Morty is very irrelevant, he was barely in these episodes. Season 6 also changed dynamics by including the whole family in plots more often, but this was because there was no portal travel. Rick and Family was a novel idea but when the portal gun got repaired it went back to Rick and Morty. Now the show is just Rick and I can't tell why? It seems the theme of the season is showing Rick's growth by having him interact with people from his past. Maybe this is all leading up to Rick permanently abandoning his search for Rick Prime because he doesn't need that cancer in his life. In any case I don't see why Morty needs to be absent in these episodes. The show at its core is about their relationship and should prioritize that first. I'm not trying to sound triggered over Wong's existence, but I think Morty would have had a more interesting conversation with Unity.
If you look at the upcoming episodes list it seems pretty obvious, I think, that we're about to pivot focus hard from Rick back to Morty. I actually expect the season will ultimately be more about Morty than Rick. Just kind of a misleading first three episodes.
Morty has changed so much as a character that they don’t actually work well together. I think this season is doing a lot of set-up to repair their bond. Rick comes first, then Morty, then the two of them. If I were to hazard a guess we’re getting a retry of season 2’s finale under different circumstances but instead of Rick Gary Stuing out of the situation Morty has to come in clutch.
It's weird IMO how hating S3E01 seems to be the default opinion around here now. I remember how hyped everyone was when it came out; at the time I would have considered it an insane fringe opinion and probably outright contrarianism to not put it in the top tier of RAM episodes. There are real criticisms I'd advance of it, but overall it's certainly what I think of as "peak Rick And Morty", and I'd tend to assume most other people who like the show feel the same, assuming they're not normies who fell for the Cringe McDonalds Sauce Incident meme.
Is it actually the default opinion around here, or is it just one anon or a few anons who post a lot? Did some people see that it was by far the lowest-Neilsen-rated episode of the show, base their opinion on that, and fail to notice that it was purely because it aired unannounced as an April Fools' Day gimmick, and it very likely would have been the highest-rated episode of the show if it had airead as a regular season premiere?
I disagree, but I have to admit that it's to Summer's discredit that I'm seriously considering the idea that Beth is more attractive than her, even though she's way out of my age range. To be fair, we do have a young version of Beth established in the show, who totally mogs her grown design
It's weird IMO how hating S3E01 seems to be the default opinion around here now. I remember how hyped everyone was when it came out; at the time I would have considered it an insane fringe opinion and probably outright contrarianism to not put it in the top tier of RAM episodes. There are real criticisms I'd advance of it, but overall it's certainly what I think of as "peak Rick And Morty", and I'd tend to assume most other people who like the show feel the same, assuming they're not normies who fell for the Cringe McDonalds Sauce Incident meme.
Is it actually the default opinion around here, or is it just one anon or a few anons who post a lot? Did some people see that it was by far the lowest-Neilsen-rated episode of the show, base their opinion on that, and fail to notice that it was purely because it aired unannounced as an April Fools' Day gimmick, and it very likely would have been the highest-rated episode of the show if it had airead as a regular season premiere?
If they cared that bad about it they would have recast Wong. Yes, yes, blacks are higher on the progressive stack, but she'd already drawn actual complaints and Ice-T didn't. If they considered Dan Harmon voicing Ice-T a shameful chapter of their history they would have simply not revisited it.
The Rick voice is fine because literally anyone can do a shitty Rick impression. Morty on the other hand is that unique Roiland voice. Literally every Morty impersonation sounds like shit and is 100% why Morty hasn't said or done shit in 3 episodes.
Okay, first off, I hope you're baiting and not yet another anon who's unaware that the season was complete before they fired Justin. Second off, I disagree; the new Rick voice is easily more jarring than the new Morty voice, and if I didn't know better, I'd think that they were giving us three Rick-heavy episodes right off the bat to force us to get used to it. Morty's voice already varied much more than Rick's under Roiland, and that wasn't entirely surprising, either - it's to be expected of a teenage boy.
>don't sound like Rick or Morty at all
That's an exaggeration. Morty sounds fine. Rick sounds like a gay college student who hates Rick And Morty playing Rick in his drama class's fanfiction musical about Rick And Morty where Rick is gay
>the new Rick voice is easily more jarring than the new Morty voice >Morty sounds fine
https://vocaroo.com/15umvlPKodK9
Both don't sound like Rick or Morty at all and also Roiland was recasted so late in the process that there is dialogue he recorded for the first episode that got leaked so it definitely didn't change the writing.
>don't sound like Rick or Morty at all
That's an exaggeration. Morty sounds fine. Rick sounds like a gay college student who hates Rick And Morty playing Rick in his drama class's fanfiction musical about Rick And Morty where Rick is gay
It has a lot of good ideas, but it doesn't know how to make them cohere well into a story. It's trying to do galaxy brain shit with a character dynamic it isn't sufficiently confident in.
>One-off sci-fi concept executed well, meaningful, that plays with the strengths of the characters
How the frick was it bad?
You literally get a scene with two ricks fighting each other with crazy house weapons.
i dont get why people are so up in arms about roiland getting booted, in the later seasons it sounded like he was phoning it in anyway. additionally, before he got "cancelled," im sure a lot of the people currently defending him thought he was a homosexual anyway
I wonder how the inevitable movie will be. Part of me hopes they’ve had the time to figure it out but the other side of me fears that it’ll be slapdash.
Even as a Rick and Morty diehard still looking forward to every episode this season, I really don't want a movie. The show itself is already made up of big cinematic adventures in chewable 22-minute episodes. In a way, each episode is its own movie. A theatrical film would no doubt be a standalone story, so there's really nothing to gain from such a format besides seeing if they can make the visuals somehow better with a bigger budget (something I feel the show has more or less already reached the peak of).
The show already looks great and regularly does big ideas every week. A movie would be redundant aside from getting to see more hand-drawn animation I guess.
IDK, I think it'd be kind of fun to see the show operating at a slower narrative pace so things can breathe more. Still as many gags and ideas as would go in several episodes of the show, but with a movie's runtime to actually process whatever the story circle is over.
True. I have heard of fans saying too much happens too quickly in some episodes. More breathing room would be a cool thing to see. I guess that'd be another advantage of doing a feature-length project: the pacing would be different.
This was some stale shit, I legit don't give a frick about any of these recycled characters and drama, this show just shows it has nothing new to tell to its viewers. Krapopolis episode 6 was unironically funnier.
The reason that’s amorte is being compared to vat of acid and pickle rick is because it’s this season’s emmybait episode. It’ll either be cinematically written like vat of acid or go all in on animation like pickle rick. I wouldn’t be surprised if it has a higher animation quality compared to the rest of the season like final desmithnation in s6.
Episode 3 was alright but the therapy spoon feeding was heavyhanded. The note scene in the original unity episode worked because it was more interesting than the therapist just talking.
DONT YOU GET IT??? THE JOKE IS THEY ARE TEASING THE AUDIENCE WITH LORE HEAVY EPISODES BUT INSTEAD GIVING US RANDOM DOGSHIT EPISODES INSTEAD!!!
ITS GENIUS!! IM SUBVERTING EXPECTATIONS RIIIIIIIIICK!
>Episode 1 managed to oversaturate Mr Poopy Butthole to the point that he was a really annoying character instead of a charming side character. The whole Predator shit was a lame reference. >Episode 2 tapped into the Rick and Jerry team up monkeys paw and was awful. Throw in the most mid gangster references and it's another steamy pile of an episode. >POTUS episode. Skip.
The episode was about being able to respond to life’s annoyances in a healthy way.
First it was the scientologist. Rick is annoyed because he has a different perspective, but the proper response is “frick it, worship how you want”.
We saw it with Summer when she pried further than necessary and Rick blew up at her, but knew enough to feel sorry about it.
An EX crossing a line is the greatest test of Rick to develop, and he failed. The hope is that he’s able to take this as a growth opportunity. Patience, good faith and appropriate, healthy responses to life’s interactions are measures by the moments when they’re most difficult. Rick can’t be faulted for his feelings, but he can grow from here.
the jokes per minute are really bad yes, a ton of dead air and lack of payoffs. people keep saying that we wont see the effects of justin's absence but i think he contributed way more than people said he did, and i think they wrote way less ahead of time than people said they did too, it's looking like he helped with the first two episodes of season 7 when he got fired, cause this episode feels like a huger void, and the president has been fully flanderized out of nowhere, very sharp uncharacteristic decline rather than a slow devolution
you are completely delusional if you think either that we're already to content where the writing was impacted by Justin's firing or that Justin was contributing much to the writing for the last few seasons
you are completely delusional if you think either that we're already to content where the writing was impacted by Justin's firing or that Justin was contributing much to the writing for the last few seasons
My evidence, by the way, is that if Justin had been contributing much for the last few seasons they would have been funnier.
>Rick says that Mr. Nimbus is his nemesis >later in the very same season it turns out his nemesis was actually himself
0/10 no continuity literally unwatchable
It can't just be the new voice. He's pretty clearly been pussified on a writing level, too. I actually kind of like it as a development, though obviously I hope it doesn't stick. Rick has gradually been softening for a while and this feels like an extreme exaggeration of that, like, this is the most pussified Rick can get. Something's gonna have to break bad.
Rick was at his most toxic and zany in Season 3 Episode 1 and this to me is supposed to be as far as he gets the other way. I think this is the calm before the storm where he goes for Rick Prime and some serious shit goes down and he pays a big price. On the other side of that we should be getting a new Rick that is less toxic but also fun again.
I feel bad for people who can’t have fun with something if it isn’t at its peak at all times. With the exception of maybe 2 episodes in the whole run I’ve consistently enjoyed R&M for what it is.
I feel the opposite. Thank GOD we’re finally getting away from Gary Stu Rick. I want him to find his footing again and be more fun but this is the right direction to get him there.
Rick is the draw of the entire. fricking. show. He's funny, he's entertaining, his grandson is his foil. You can't just take him, neuter him down and injecting bullshit secondaries no one gives a frick about like Wong and MPBH when these episodes should be tailored around Rick AND MORTY. This show will suck dick as long as Rick can't be Rick.
Nope. Morty was the MC in the good seasons. S3E1 steered into Rick because he was the funniest (ala Randy Marsh) and that broke the show. If Rick is portrayed as philosophically correct, nothing matters and you’re just fricking around. Rick needed this growth a long time ago and this is a great sign that we’ll soon be going back to stories with stakes and pathos AND fun. Morty still has work to be done to repair their dynamic that was ruined by Rick-wank, but we’re getting there.
>nothing matters and you’re just fricking around.
Nothing has to matter. It's a fricking cartoon show. That had two decent episodes this season until it ran off the road with this horseshit. It might recover. But with shit like >LE MR STABBY XDDD
It's gonna be lots of ups and downs until they hammer this shit out
>Nothing has to matter
We have a fundamental disagreement. The original seasons worked best because the balance of Rick’s power and Morty’s innocence. Without stakes you’re just going through the motions.
>That had two decent episodes this season until it ran off the road with this horseshit.
If you think S7E1 was not the worst episode of the season so far then we can’t really agree on what it means to make a Rick and Morty episode.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sorry for not clarifying in my anger. I believe the second episode is better than the first in every conceivable way. Mr. Poopy Butthole and cuckoldry and ZERO MORTY is not the way to open a season.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Well, we can at least find common ground there. As an olive branch, I do think the show can’t sustain character focus at the expense of humor for too much longer. Best case scenario is that the development this season leads to a better dynamic for Rick and Morty (the characters) moving forward.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Your civility is appreciated. I'm sorry for the hostility.
All the writers have to do is make Rick evil without actually taking his side. The idea that he needs to be a good guy just because he's a main character is ruining the show in my opinion because he was already far past the point of being forgivable even in Season 1, and also the writers don't know how to write serious plots.
Redeeming Rick and making Rick evil are both directions that could have worked. I personally want him redeemed because I just want stories about an awkward teen and his cooky grandpa going on mindbending adventures.
>Oh, shit. Shonda came to play. >Shonda: Blah blah blackity blah. Hey y'all I speak ghetto on the air. Top urban hilarity.
I pulled out. Frick this episode.
I've got my tinfoil hat on. Now I'm thinking they did an episode about how Rick doesn't trust an ex to be malicious after a breakup because they're going to confirm Rick and RP had an affair before he killed his family.
Wouldn’t be shocked. My guess is Rick is gonna get fricked trying to chase Rick Prime and his friends will come together to try and save him, only for some or all of them to die. Unity has the biggest death flags, but it could be a lot more. This is how Rick learns once and for all to admit the people he cares about matter and he’s been coping this whole time.
Rick will lose one person, but decide to stay in this specific universe for the sake of the rest. Rick needs to decide that he can’t run away from the universe anymore.
I don’t like it but I can accept that. Cheating is different.
7 months ago
Anonymous
If they had a threesome with Nimbus I see no reason to believe that Diane would have disapproved of Rick and Rick Prime fricking.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Eh, I don’t think that’s a completely logical jump to make.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Well maybe he fricked Rick Prime with her permission, if he ever fricked him at all. It would ratchet up the guilt complex he seems to have over it at least.
Season 6 was about Rick’s relationship to the family and Season 7 is about Rick’s relationship to his friends. Rick’s relationship with Morty as a friend is next, then a big dramatic frick you.
The new VA's ruined it. All because some guy hit some girl
the writing sucks anyway. every writer they hire just wants to create a new angle to psycho-analyze Rick by convoluting some way to prop up other characters as his unrealistic foils. the show wants me to care about Rick's relationship with the gay ass president? I don't. his old war buddies? I did. when it was more mysterious. that's why I cared. Jerry? who could I care about Jerry when you write him completely different every single episode?
This to some a third of an extent
>can't remember e1
>thought e2 was actually alright
>thought e3 was just hot dogshit
i think this season the writers are either too busy with other projects or too busy pitching new projects so its kind of half assed
I think the problem lies with the short 10 episode seasons. Too short to flesh out any character development and arcs in such short seasons. It's like when the going gets good it stops. God I'd kill for shows to have proper length seasons again 25+ episodes at a minimum.
This. The seasons need to be 50 episodes minimum. We need to really get to know these characters.
50 is too long. Maybe 50 half episodes or 25 full length episodes. Personally I would've loved for the season 6 finale to have been a full hour long, because it had so much meat on the bones, so much story to explore. But instead they kept rushing through it like every single episode.
That's why I love episodic content. Keep the stories loosely affiliated and stand alone, but all episodes should work towards a greater end of season/end of series goal. I just binge watched all of the original frasier and I loved how every single episode had it's own tale to tell, but yet it all contributed to the series as a whole. I wish more cable tv did that. I cant stand the make everything at the beginning of the season all at once, and then dont change stuff when it doesn't work outside the writers heads.
>This kills the show
Maybe 12
12 is just too few. We need real character growth and depth. 50 is what is necessary.
Cartoonishly impractical which I assume is your joke unless you’re delusional. Anything more than 15 is ridiculous.
How dare you. I want real depth and you call me a delusional joker? Where exactly do you get off? This show is good but it can be great if given the room it needs to breathe. You're the impractical one here. The writers need time to build the characters. 50 episodes is that perfect spot without over staying its welcome.
You’ve made your point industrygay, leave the morons alone they don’t know any better.
What in the world are you talking about?
20+ episode seasons are only for network television. 10 episode seasons are the norm for cable television since over a decade ago. my bad they WERE the norm, now many shows are getting reduced seasons (it's always sunny is down to 8, south park is down to 6).
>Too short to flesh out any character development and arcs in such short seasons. It's like when the going gets good it stops.
it's more a reflection of how the show's written and not how long the seasons are. if they wanted to strictly tell a serialized story the show would've been finished already. instead they use the serialized elements as a hook to keep you watching through the silly standalone episodes.
I feel similar but the opposite. The seasons have the right number of episodes, the episodes are a little short. Some of these stories really feel like they’d benefit from being 10 minutes longer. Also impractical but that’s my take.
>The new VA's ruined it
>3 episodes
>Number of times rick has burp talked = 0
S7 is bad and adult swim should feel bad
I think they should have just gone with completely new voices and worked it into the plot. Go full on Bendigo Aussie Rick and Aussie Morty for a season, as they investigate what is going on and build a story around Rick Prime fricking with the yadda yadda, then they kill him or whatever at the end of the season, and their voices switch to the current voices.
And Morty goes, Oh, Ricksan, our voices? Are voices are b-b-back? But they're a little off.'
And Rick, almost cutting him off, burps, and goes, Eh, close enough. Roll credits.
I think this was the season to go all in with everything. After all the two crows shit last season, they should have just shot to wrap this whole thing up.
I havent seen any episodes this season, but it doesnt even feel like they're having fun. I almost missed last season's ender because it was a president episode on top of a star wars eipside.
Are we still making star wars jokes?
And there is a predator joke in the new season? It's just lazy.
I agree with this. I blame the internet. Writers want to be rockstars and they want to be known by the people and it's moronic. Great, you wrote episode yadda yadda, I dont need to know who you are, it's just a fricking episode. They they act like tech programmers and jump ship to other projects like there is any correlation at all. It's infrickingsane.
>I havent seen any episodes this season, but it doesnt even feel like they're having fun.
gr8b8m8
i dont even notice it
you roiland simps are beyond fricking deranged
Hillary lost
>All because some guy hit some girl
Allegedly, and all charges were dropped. When they beg Roiland to come back, he's gonna get a bigger payout than Johnny Depp.
They're not gonna get him back, and I have no idea why people still think that the domestic abuse thing matters or is relevant at all. He's literally gone because his views on underage girls hit sufficiently widespread circulation to make him an unemployable PR liability. It's sad but totally understandable and intractable.
Lazzo never liked him and trusted Harmon more. Harmon overreached and he couldn’t stand up for himself. The allegations and texts were just the straw that broke the camel’s back.
I was responding to a post that treated the abuse allegations as relevant. It's not a crime to correct people.
You said they were going to beg him to come back.
Considering how this dump of a season is going, yes they will beg him on hand and knee to come back.
It might turn out as my new favorite season, actually. (My current favorite season is season five. My least favorite season is season six.)
Your opinion is discarded and I will not reply further.
Just kidding, I'm doing a bit because you said something I can imply is divisive
Very interesting, for me season 5 is the worst and 6 is the best since 1+2 (which is far and away the best). Care to elaborate (don’t need to effortpost too hard unless you want to).
>What did you like about S5
>What went wrong in S6
>How is S7 different than S6 (I group them together like S4 and S5 so far)
The season is 2 for 3 and the current era of the show isn’t the worst one.
Eh, I definitely laughed out loud at episode 2, but this episode didn't really have any jokes that hit me enough to physically react.
Season 4+5 had better humor but absolutely ass terrible character writing (not all the time, but the lowest the show has gotten).
Season 6+7 so far is way better on character but the least funny the series has gotten (exception being S7E1 which felt like a S4 bottom of the barrel episode escaped out of a time warp).
season 6 was written in 2020, which implies that...
>season 7 was written in 2021
>season 8 was written in 2022
assuming justin still had any influence on the show before he got fired, it'll be present in this season and the next.
>Allegedly
Yeah because a girl with Roiland would lie about that. A guy who is an OPEN fricking sex pest and is 100% unapologetically a pedophile who openly mocked Chris Hansen and defended the pedos on the show because the 'bait was hot'
He's a fricking deranged freak who immediately abused his power as a creator to groom underage girls and use them for sex.
Yeah, he waited until they were 18, but he initiated his grooming when they were 15 or 16, which is the age you can mindfrick a stupid teenager and he was well aware. He's a loser who had nothing going on in life until he made a stupid Doc and Marty parody and he knows he can only get idiotic teenage girls because he's a hideous chud.
oh yeah he also posted, publicly, about 'underage girls' on his own Reddit account years back and a girl who went to meet him said she felt shitty, coerced, forced, and weird the entire time she was hanging out with him. And she said he spammed her a bunch of penis pictures or said penis 100 times in her DMs when she was trying to sleep in the room next door. He's a frickin freak.
You sound jealous.
He’s just an edgelord
Great breakdown. Dumb fanboys will dismiss his behavior as "that's just how he is! XD," but that's an unhealthy way of looking at it. His whole "WHOOPY POOPY DOOBLES" shtick wasn't a bit, he's just that fricking immature. Add his behavior at work and how he made every one of his employees embarrassed to work for him and it shouldn't even be controversial for Adult Swim and Hulu to have fired his ass.
Roiland's a piece of shit as a person, but I will still go on record to say he's a phenomenal voice actor and brought *some* good to this world. The Roy episode from last season is a good recent example of how good he was at that role even while being a pariah at the studio. "Rick Potion #9" also proves that he had some cool contributions to Rick and Morty's writing, and I really am a fan of the Roiland art style. His absence will make the show feel different, yes, but he deserves everything that came to him.
Being a feminist ally on a website two clicks away from shitting dicknipples does not make you cool. Roiland was at least half the show, and now that he's gone it's half dead. I don't have to like him personally to know he's necessary. Enjoy your humorless soap opera.
>Roiland was at least half the show
That hasn't been true for years. And even if I didn't care about his creeping on barely legal girls, I'd still call him out for how immature he was in the studio. Roiland could've pulled back on his involvement with the show WITHOUT burning so many bridges and making it so easy to get fired. Harmon isn't an angel either, though. I still question some of his creative decisions and I wonder what led to practically all of the S1-3 writers leaving.
>Angry femcels
Hate him all you want. The show is diminished without him just like Squidbillies was diminished without Stuart Baker.
It is annoying that they try to sound the same but are clearly different and worse
I feel rick is spot on EXCEPT when he needs to scream/talk loudly, whereas morty is completely off all the time (ironically closer to pilot/S1 morty but that was never my favorite morty voice).
It's not the voices, the writing is just a mess. Even the best episode so far, S7E2, started to lose steam around the 10 minute mark. It's not aggressively bad like S4, but it's bland, like it doesn't know what it wants to do so it goes for the safest plots it can think of.
Rick's new VA is turning out pretty good, I couldn't tell the difference in the last episode.
Morty is much more hit and miss, however. And three episodes into Season 7 with only one supporting role and two cameos tells me they may not have a lot of faith in him. Maybe they're just starting with the Rick-heavy episodes to give him more time to fine-tune his Morty voice, but that feels more hopeful than realistic at this point.
Charges dropped just means they didn't have hard evidence, not that he didn't do it. I know we like Roiland because he was probably a former Cinemaphilemrade, but if anything shouldn't a history with Cinemaphile make it MORE likely all the rumors of him being a creep and manchild have merit? We all know what the other boards are like, we all know who we're posting with.
>they may not have a lot of faith in him
Cartoons take years to get made. This is a redub over Roiland.
I'm not saying the scrapped or rewrote any episodes, just that they may have reordered them so they either A) have time to possibly redub Morty's lines or B) get Season 7 off to a strong enough start that they won't get flack for the weaker Morty later in the season.
Whether or not it's because of Morty's new VA, you've got to admit it's weird that one of the titular characters has had barely any focus 3 episodes into the season.
It is weird, but I think it has more to do with the upcoming plot than the VAs. Rick needs some development for what’s coming.
>And three episodes into Season 7 with only one supporting role and two cameos tells me they may not have a lot of faith in him.
Are you serious about this, bro?
have a nice day. adult swim is trash.
The Rick Prime plot is cringe and I'm tired if pretending it's not.
There's a lot of Cinemaphile anons that really don't like the idea of an episodic show staying as an episodic show, and that stakes must be raise + intrigue to be constantly accelerated in order to keep interest from the audience. They're the audience that Dan Harmon pandered to and ruined the show with, they're the ones that care about Rick Prime, and it's insufferable.
Ah yes, how dare they commit to an actual story line when we could have more dumb incest baby jokes
I love serialization when it's done well. I love boring ass drama so much I almost defended Christina Hendricks in the last thread for being reduced to her looks when she's a genuinely good actress in Mad Men. I just think the Rick Prime stuff has been corny in every scene it's been brought up in so far.
>I just think the Rick Prime stuff has been corny in every scene it's been brought up in so far.
That's just you not giving it a chance considering that we don't know the depths of Rick Prime's personality, abilities, or main goals. Evil Morty was a fun character but I never became obsessed with him until Rickmurai Jack and I, and I feel confident to say that many other people as well, believe that he was handled very well as his backstory is more interesting than that cliche "He was our Rick's first Morty" theory.
backstories are gay
That’s what I’ve noticed more than anything. A lot of people just go to Rick and Morty threads to complain and have no patience or perspective on where the show is going.
Kek, they don't even know the show's history either. I've seen multiple people complain about the show being disgusting because of Unity spreading via vomiting into people's mouths when no one b***hed that hard back when she did that in her debut episode. Then again, if they removed the vomiting and had Unity spread via some tamer method, they would b***h that the show became sanitized.
It’s tiring. The ongoing discussion of the show’s identity crisis is a lot more interesting than “everything bad, zombie show now”.
>That's just you not giving it a chance considering that we don't know the depths of Rick Prime's personality, abilities, or main goals.
He's been in one flashback montage, one scene and post-credits scene in an episode, and mentioned in at least two other episodes, and none of it has landed for me. Scratch that, him actually being in the tube was funny. I'll admit I jumped the gun a little because we haven't seen enough for me to logically explain myself. We're still in pure feels mode. For me, virtually all of it has felt awkward, forced, and like a low budget version of what I imagine MCU movies to be like. And that doesn't imbue me with confidence that future developments will be much different. I'd like to be wrong about that, trust me, but my expectations are very low.
>Rickmurai Jack
I liked Evil Morty's motivation (I'd been hoping for something like that for a long time), but I struggle to think about anything else I liked about that episode, in terms of ideas and their execution, not even how the episode's tone and basic story structure. I'm obviously not a fan but despite what it might look like, I'm not a hate watcher either. Just a curious observer, hoping to be genuinely entertained like I used to be and if not, I'm fine with watching the show try to realize its vision too.
That sounds fair. My guess is that they're going for making Rick Prime a foil to Evil Morty. EM was just some random Morty "created" by Rick while RP is the catalyst for the whole show and in turn "creating" Rick. EM is what Morty would be if he wasn't held back by his (shaky) morality and unassertiveness while RP is what Rick would be if he embraced all of his worst aspects. EM is an outside-context villain while RP has a deep personal history with Rick. EM is mostly serious and laidback while RP noticeably wise-cracks more often. With all of this laid out, I don't think it's delusional to lean on the optimistic side in hoping that they do something cool with him that's equal to Evil Morty's backstory since it seems as though they have some steady groundwork to try something different. Not to mention how Evil Morty is confirmed to make his return so there's a good chance that he'll be a key player in this new arc as well.
I also can't blame you if you found Rickmurai Jack to be a bit rushed, having too much padding thanks to the dumb anime reference in the beginning, and just not being a fan of the characters' apathetic delivery as earth-shattering truths are dopped and chaos happens around them. I have no defense for the first two but as a fanboy, I'll chalk up the deadpan commentary as something that isn't worth getting worked up about seeing as how it's simply a hit or miss attempt at including comic relief. Aside from Evil Morty's history, I also thought it was cool watching him turn Rick's technology against him.
Don't fully agree with you but well said.
I've been watching this show for almost 10 years to the day. It's hard for me to articulate it but I think that being such a long timer viewer has had a major influence on how I've experienced the show's developments, even though I also recognize that other people, yourself included, could be equally long-time viewers and have a completely different experience. I'm not keen on Rick's backstory. Even during the surprise season 3 premiere (which I disliked then and still dislike now for making Rick OP, reversing his character development, and shitting a little too much on the idea of caring about the show when the "point" deep down is that not caring about things is bad for you), I was amused and relieved that it was all a ruse. Yes I realize that kind of contradicts my gripes about the episode too. Rick, to me, was a guy who ran out on his wife like he'd said before, not tragically lost her in a shoddy, cliche backstory. I think they possibly could've sold me on his current backstory regardless as long they'd never done it as a fakeout first. That's always stuck with me and I haven't fully come around to the retcon even though in hindsight they'd been setting the stage since S4 across about half a dozen episodes.
However I actually like some of the things it does for his character and the show in general. I like that after two or three seasons of fricking around and getting too Rick-ified, the show went hard in the other direction and revealed his nihilism to be pure self-destructive copium. It's a sharp turn but kind of necessary to course correct after veering too hard the other way. And I like that his character arc clearly bends towards a sort of philosophical-psychological-moral recovery through allowing himself to care again. And since RP's gonna be in it, I like how he functions as Rick's foil. RP is Rick if he was the nihilist he says he is, and that's what makes him villainous. I'm on board with that.
Rick and Morty has tried so many things and made so many mistakes, but it obviously isn’t at a point where they’re just throwing their hands in the air and saying frick it. That leads to a very odd place to be as a fan. I think we all have different expectations and hopes. I feel more confident in the show now than I did back in Season 5, at this point I’m just curious which road they take.
Yeah, this is my exact experience with the show now.
It's far from what I thought the future of the show was going to be, but there's no undoing what's already been done, they can only manage with what they've been given. I think they have the right general idea now, they just need to fix the comedic and dramatic writing to put it in practice.
rick and morty’s handling of serial story elements is terrible and an active detriment to the show’s quality. Literally just a thing that became a keychain to dangle at the beginning and end of every season as bait for people to stay invested.
The problem is that every season is constantly course correcting, and they haven’t committed to one or the other. Whenever they go more episodic people complain and want more plot and whenever they go more canon people complain and want more wacky adventures. I see the show as slowly trending better so I’m willing to be patient with this bigger story if they’re focusing on it for now. Everyone seems to hold a different opinion on this including the staff.
It's barely even a plot, how can you call it cringe when it doesn't even exist?
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>How dare people talk about a show it must be shills!!!
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Same reason Morty and Summer don't age in the show.
It's been implied that they age like in Morty's mind blowers we see Morty turn 13 but it was a flashback since in Season 1 he is 14.
With Summer she started 17 went from 18 in the first episode of Season 3 then back to 17 in Season 4(In the app ep it's Beth who calls her underaged.)
It could be explain by dimension shenanigans or the writes just forgot.
>Summer turned 18 in Rickshank Rickdemption
huh??
I feel like we can trust the wikigays
he already killed him, in the Hoover dam
It was sarcasm.
you can never know with Rick
The final joke of the season will be Morty asking Rick what happened to the Rick Prime thing, and he says
>oh, Morty I already told you. I killed him off screen. That wasn't sarcasm. It's just the new voice actor they have playing me is really shit.
Rick killed him off screen
I'M HUNTING MY NEMESIS MORTY!!!
I'M BEING A MENACE TO SOCIETY MOOOOOORRRTYYY!!!!
AAAAAAAABLABLABLABLABLABLAB!
Every season we get these threads about how the show doesn't continue the narraitive or some shit when it's always been a season finale thing
this. also people seem to be forgetting the first two seasons...
>season 1: only 2 episodes that built upon the lore and narrative (E6 and E10), 9 unrelated goody ones
>season 2: only 1 episode (E10), the other 9 were unrelated and goofy
i'm not going to defend the newer seasons like they aren't steaming dogshit, but to criticize them based on that is just moronic
I think this downplays both how much lore and narrative there was in the early seasons and how much there is now. I think we're getting a lot more lore than most of us are prepared for this season.
I think that's underselling the show a little bit. The first couple seasons seeded more than sci-fi plots, backstories, and worldbuilding in a couple of "major" "lore" episodes.
Season 1
>Pilot, I guess?: introduces the galactic federation bug people, their portal travel abilities, antagonistic relationship with Rick, tells Rick's only recently moved in with the family, and implies (Prime) Beth's mom is currently dead
>Meeseeks and Destroy: Beth and Jerry's teen pregnancy backstory
>Rick Potion No. 9: self-evident
>Rixty Minutes: Morty recalls which is the first confirmation that this show doesn't completely reset after every episode, past events become relevant again, and characters can reflect on their experiences
>Close Rickcounters of the Ricked Kind: self-evident
>Ricksy Business: introduces Rick's many alien friends, Birdperson's conversation with "reveals" BP and Rick are or used to be close confidants and that Rick is sadder than he lets on but the ending implies Rick's grandkids make him happy
Season 2
>this season in general consistently shows a less callous, more sympathetic side of Rick
>A Rickle in Time: confirms Rick secretly loves Morty and would sacrifice himself for him without a doubt
>Auto Erotic Assimilation: follows through on the implication that Rick's a sad bastard who secretly hates himself
>Get Shwifty: purposefully conspicuous photo of Rick with a baby Morty in BP's house, Tammy comes back as BP's fiancee
>Look Who's Purging Now: first glimpse at Morty's growing anger issues, resentment of Rick, and combat competency—additionally back when that aired it seemed to signal that Morty might be going down the path Evil Morty did and that Rick's/Ricks' mistreatment of Morty/Morties is to blame
>The Wedding Squanchers: self-evident
In a more general sense, I think season 1 and 2 have better character work than the middle seasons even though it was much looser and more comedic in tone than what we're getting now.
At the end of the day, Season 1 and 2 worked as well as they did for two reasons:
1. Writing team was different and on a different page than the current one.
2. The characters were carefully constructed to facilitate the original incarnation of the show.
In season 3 the direction they developed the characters broke the dynamic. Rick was the runaway most popular character and they flanderized him into a Chadgod instead of what he was. More importantly Morty became too jaded and confident to serve his original function. The show tried to go more silly but the foundations have been changed. All they can do at this point is follow the arcs and either ride that out or use the plot to rebuild the characters so they have a dynamic that generates wacky adventures again. Rick is slowly being knocked off his pedestal but Morty is still not functional.
It’s the equivalent of giving character development to Spongebob and making him cynical, and refocusing the show on Squidward. You can’t go back without rebreaking the bone and setting it in a new way.
Completely agree with you on that.
I'm not ignorant to the fact that you could grasp at straws like this just as much in post-S2 episodes. I do think those first couple seasons have a different attitude and presentation of its characters, story, and worldbuilding though which I prefer to the ones that followed them. I wouldn't know how to explain why, but the first two's relationship with broader story elements feels healthier and more relaxed and natural to me where the later ones more often tend come off neurotic, mechanical, gauche, or uninspired.
I love president Obama
I hope they bring back Pickle Rick
you got leg rick instead
This is way funnier than Pickle Rick, honestly
It's a funnier parody of sci-fi body horror
How does Parmesan dimension Unity know about Rick hunting Prime Rick? That happened at least 3-4 dimensions back, does that mean there were 3-4 Ricks with lives identical to C-137 including having their family killed by Prime Rick?
Impossible because C-137 was inhabiting Prime Rick's dimension, while none of the others that died and were replaced did that
Different Prime Rick
maybe? Rick did say they only have a small handful of Universes they could move too. I assume it's because hes looking at universes with very specific histories that match his own
C-137 Cronenberg'd Rick Prime's Earth (i.e not his original universe), we know for a fact none of the others did that
> none of the others did that
Well, there is an oppsite situation where a Cronenberg Rick humanized everyone on his Earth
It was already explained
>How does Parmesan dimension Unity know about Rick hunting Prime Rick?
Maybe Unity transcend dimension? Maybe all of the Unity carriers of all of realities are all mentally connected, forming a single being, regardless of what reality they are in?
Sounds very powerful
She's probably capable of multiversal travel, or has assimilated a species that's capable of it.
She assimilated a Rick somewhere in the multiverse.
Why does Parmesan Dimension also have a Mr. Poopybutthole with beef against Beth? Why does it also have a Birdperson who presumably was revived by Parmesan Rick and went on to rescue his daughter from the Federation? The show kind of demands you accept that the supporting cast and their relations to Rick/Morty/etc. carry over with each dimensional hop.
These are good points tho. It's possible that Rick Prime killed multiple Beths and Dianes, creating multiple near-identical Ricks who each cracked portal travel and moved in with alternate Beths (like Memory Rick insinuated). I don't want to get my hopes up and expect the writers to actually keep this in mind or do anything with this, but I guess the one thing that makes OUR Rick special is that he grew attached to Morty Prime, so of the several dimension-hopping Ricks, ours is the one most closely tied to Rick Prime.
Actually Birdperson is from Bird Dimension so it's the same one from S1, though it does raise the question does every other Rick have their own Birdperson from each from an alt Bird Dimension
I think Birdperson is just from a Bird planet without knowledge or concern for other dimensions which is why after the Battle at Blood Ridge when young Rick was ranting about the multiverse Birdperson just brushed him off.
Because Rick finds dimensions literally identical to his current one when he moves; its not literally the same Unity but a Unity that had all the same interactions with the Rick that died and got replaced. People have the worst media literacy; this shit was explained, that's why it's hard to jump realities
nta, but the show still depicts our Rick's life as being special and unique, which clashes with him being able to relocate to another universe where a Rick with a nearly identical life lived.
They still haven't explicitly said what it means that Rick Prime is in multiple places at once. I'm convinced that the answer is that Rick Prime is exactly as easily-replaced as Rick C-137. Remember, at the beginning of the series, Rick C-137 moved onto Rick Prime's Earth. The Cronenberg swap implies the existence of another Rick who's just as close to Rick Prime as the dead Rick in C-131 was to Rick C-137. The Frundle swap implies the existence of yet another Rick Prime-alike. And so on.
There are presumably multiple Citadels, too, although it feels kind of late to mention it; ideally it would have been brought up as the excuse for bringing the Citadel back after Rick destroyed it in S3E01.
That's pretty much what I've been thinking too. I hope the writers canonize this at some point so that it doesn't just remain a giant elephant in the room.
Wubalubadubdub
GRASS TASTES BAD
Grass tastes great, why is Rick such a liar?
Trying to hog it all for himself.
But if there's only one Rick Prime that would mean there were multiple Ricks who all went to Rick Prime's dimension, hung out with his Morty (the one we know), Cronenberg'd his dimension, fled to another identical dimension, Frundled that one etc
With most stuff you could make the excuse it's that universe's version of that person/event etc, but when you include the stuff that's supposedly unique in the multiverse and C-137 interacted with it, then it becomes impossible to replicate multiversally
This moron doesn't understand infinity
>This moron doesn't understand infinity
Take it up with the writers.
If there are infinite Rick Primes then what does Rick get out of killing one? How does he even know it's the one that killed his family?
Which part of central FINITE curve did you not understand
So, what's your list?
Go on...
Don’t indulge Jerrywigschizo he’s been at it for years.
>3 episodes into post-Roiland R&M
>Every episode is "remember those 3 or 4 things from previous seasons? They're back and poorly written!"
The new VA gets better with every episode but that hasn't helped the season rise above 6/10 toothless slop. The comedic timing is off, the edge is gone, the plots are lame, and for whatever reason Morty hasn't really been in any episodes yet.
For a thousandth fricking time, IT'S NOT POST-ROILAND YET! This season was written like 2 years ago!
so the only time the show will be able to move past roiland is in its final season?
If I recall correctly, season 9 was partially written when the Justin Roiland news broke, so maybe only the last season and a half will be truly post-Roiland.
Episodes aren't necessarily made in chronological order
Unless they get contracted for more seasons
I dunno I kinda like this season and how it seems to focus more on Rick's relationships with the overall cast and world instead of just Morty. that being said Morty does need to be used more
Looks like Morty's gonna be prominent again for the rest of the season. It's just weird to open up S7 with THREE Rick-centric stories in a row.
Not too bad. Happy to see Unity again and that they kept her OG design the Head Unity. The invasion was cool.
Don't think we needed to dive into the President's psyche.
I'm VERY happy they kept the OG Head Unity design
While she is hot, I'm of the belief that they kept the old design simply because they think their audience is moronic and wouldn't recognize the character unless there was a visual similarity.
Left a bad taste in my mouth, honestly.
Yeah, that was lame. Unity is a lot cooler when it's a true hivemind completely removed from the human idea of personhood.
>its so weird to have a season without morty as a actual character.
>i think they really have no ideas on what to do with him
I didn't think I'd feel his absence this much. It's like they developed him too fast and now have nowhere to take him, or they're so fixated on Rick they haven't bothered to think about what's entertaining or interesting about Morty.
Other hiveminds are said to exist so Unity likely chose to keep that one woman because it's her equivalent of her favorite dress along with hopefully winning back Rick considering that the assimilated woman was the one he had the most interaction with. Also, how would the audience be moronic enough to not recognize the one of two hive minds they've seen, whose name is outright stated, only because a one-off background character wasn't present.
no don't you understand we need 9 episodes of rick talking about his feelings and growing as a person because dan harmon started going to therapy in 2015
Season 1 Rick and Morty would have killed off Wong as a joke in her first episode.
>this makes redditmutts cry and shart with laughter
Since I was watching from the mega without the subtitles I thought the last line was "Jesus Carl, youtube"
Thought they were making fun of the youtube Alt-right pipeline.
homie been dead for 80 years and they still on his dick daily
Yeah they're on all the college campuses right now. But they're not who'd you think :B
okay this line was funny
no reddit, it wasn't
yes 4chud, it was
thanks for being the homosexual that proves simple things amuse simple minds
Why didn't Unity just come visit Rick as a hivemind of already assimilated aliens instead of taking over Virginia?
It was the President who took over Virginia, not Unity
She took over Virginia initially.
She tried calling him and he didn't answer, she doesn't know what state he lives in, and even if she's aware of things like googling someone's name and finding their personal info, Rick is probably the type to scrub anything there is on him.
>first episode was shit, second was alright, and the third was somehow even worse than the first
this season is going to be painful
> and the third was somehow even worse than the first
No it wasn't
yes it was homosexual
No it wasn't frick off! Nothing is worse than the first episode!
It’s setup for what’s to come. Episode 1 was awful but 2/3 are good.
“AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE UNITY-SAMA WONG-SAMA HELP ME I WAS WRONG I’M A TERRIBLE PERSON PLEASE I’LL DO BETTER I’LL RESSURECT DIANE AND LET HER TELL ME HOW AWFUL I AM AND HAVE A THREEWAY WITH YOU AND OBAMA JUST PLEASE SAVE ME YABBA DABBA DOO THAT’S MY CATCHPHRASE I’M CHUDDY RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK”
>chance of being good
Unmortricken (#5)
Rickfending Your Mort (#6)
Fear No Mort (#10)
>wildcard
Wet Kuat Amortican Summer (#7), looks like Morty's Mind Blowers 2.0
>dude religion lol
Mort: Ragnorick (#9)
>I don't care about this
That's Amorte (#4)
>dogshit
Numbericons (#8)
>>I don't care about this
>That's Amorte (#4)
>he doesn't care about RICK'S FAMOUS SPAGHETTI
so what are we calling the Rick from this episodes? The gay groveled before scientology and apologized every other breath, b***h Rick needs to frick off and die.
Scientology is unironically based.
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its so weird to have a season without morty as a actual character.
i think they really have no ideas on what to do with him
Nahh I trust that they respect the character and have big plans for him. Maybe the writers just want to hold off on any big moments in store with him, since Harmon wants this show to run for 1000 episodes or some shit. S6 literally ended in a two-parter about Morty not respecting Rick since he's always being left in the dark.
Is OP seriously failing to grasp the concept of an episodic television show?
Damn, doctor wong is even smarter than rick....she's so cool....
more like sane, rick is literally autistic (its implied in several episodes) while he is good at building a bunch of tech stuff she is good with dealing with people, a thing rick isnt good at
Not smarter, just more well adjusted
Now draw Dr. Wong making out with Unity, the big titty office body
one.
why i have the feeling Rick will develop a huge attachment to her, a bizzare mixing of passion, love and kinda of a ''mom figure'', only for some twist reveal to apper and show a side of her Rick was not expecting breaking all his expectations making rick fall into another depression, back to his old self.
does Rick have a psychology degree? I don't think so
>rick was in the wrong because he didnt answer calls from his ex.
For frick's sake. Absolute woman moment.
One of the most skippable episodes of the series.
I wouldn’t go that far, but the vomiting really wasn’t as funny as the crew must’ve thought
whoa dude, wong got obama and rick to fight over her whoa, its like im watching twilight and the werewolves and vampires fight whoa.
>Hear your old friend is killing themselves
>Try to reach out, no response
>Do something drastic to establish contact
>Friend not only tells you to frick off, but does the equivalent of cutting off your finger
>In so doing, he escalates your drastic measure into something life threatening
>Accept your friend’s boundaries, try to warn him about the danger and how you can fix it before disaster strikes
>Tells you he doesn’t trust you (effectively retroactively calling the entire friendship into question) belittles your injury and tells you to frick off again
>Oblige
>Disaster strikes
>Comes crawling back for help only after he’s run out of options
>Oblige, go through an immense level of pain to make things right
HURR RICK WAS RIGHT GUYZ
>killing themselves
when did that happen
The show portrays fricking around with Rick Prime as effectively killing yourself.
She tried to reach out in a normal way, and it didn’t work. She went to find him in the only way she knew how, and was explicitly shown to go above and beyond to take care of her temporary hosts.
she could have hired a merc to deliver a message or just sent one drone.
but then we wouldn't have a heckin girl power episode where rick and the president are helpless babies who need to be saved by a therapist and a backround character.
>The show portrays fricking around with Rick Prime
no, only unity says so. Unity who refused to speak to rick the last time they talked. He refuses to speak to her the same way but she doesn't let it go like he did so he has to reply to her and he gets justifiably angry.
>no, only unity says so.
And Morty. And Jerry Prime got domed for trying to kill RP too.
Same here.
>And Morty
What does morty know about it exactly?
>a jerry died so that means rick will die
lmao
You want Unity to be 100% wrong so bad it's lobotomized the part of your brain that interprets authorial intent.
>What does morty know about it exactly?
Literally everything
>The show portrays fricking around with Rick Prime as effectively killing yourself.
not one single person actually, genuinely believes prime rick won't job out of his mind if ever used again
Nah. Rick’s been set up for a MAJOR fall coming up (on par with the finale of Season 2). The third time they confront each other Rick will overcome, though.
>on par with the finale of Season 2
you're saying this as if that episode wasn't inmediatedly followed by Rick getting out of prision, gaslighting the space cia while they're reading his own mind, dabbing on the entire galactic federation and essentially getting away scot free
it's been 7 seasons and there have been zero (0) consecuences for anything that has happened besides the cronengberg shit, which was retconned into rick not even caring about it in the first place cuz of rick prime. you're insane if you're actually treating any threat this show presents seriously at all
S3E1 was the biggest mistake made in the entire show, yeah. My instinct is they’re going to be making right on that mistake soon. It’s clear from how they’ve steered the show since S6 that they’re trying to undo a lot of the issues S3 caused.
why, exactly, would they course correct now? you're giving them way too much credit
He's a troll killing time.
Every season since S3 has been a course correction, and despite rolling eyes at their fans they have been addressing complaints given to them. Right now the show’s biggest problem is that Morty and Rick’s relationship has grown to a place that can’t generate stories people want to see. Rick’s philosophical position has dominated the cast. Starting with S6, Rick has actually been allowed to grow. Morty will be next.
>Every season since S3 has been a course correction
jesus this is some grade A industrial copium right there
No, just paying attention. The show’s identity crisis has consistently been present and interesting.
It baffles me how well S3E1 is received. S3E7 is overrated as well, though it doesn't bother me as much.
remember when at the end of the unity episode she refused to talk to rick directly and had her bf tell him to frick off?
Oh, what, now you're so insecure you have to have a crying session because your ex moved on?
>>Do something drastic to establish contact
See, that's where Unity fricked up. The fact that even you admit it was something drastic means that it wasn't the best course of action to contact Rick. She fricked with Rick's planet knowing fully well it could backfire horribly, both for her and the planet. It's her fault.
You say this yet this was all her fault to begin with
I would hope you would help and old friend if they’re killing themselves, even if you didn’t leave on good terms.
She stated she didn’t know where he was and could only establish contact in the way she did.
>Only Unity says so
The show portrays her as correct. We haven’t seen it, but you’re asked to assume she’s correct (Rick doesn’t even disagree).
Rick was not obligated to be nice or return a phone call, but he was obligated as a moral agent to prioritize the wellbeing of the innocent people in the middle of his and Unity’s bullshit. His lack of trust in her to not take over the planet and leave goes beyond the appropriate response even if you never want to see this girl again (due to the pain the breakup caused). Not trusting her is calling into question who she is as a person, and is effectively saying that what they had meant nothing to him, that she’s more than an ex, but an enemy. He injured her, refused to let her make things right and jeopardized others while doing so.
Rick should have killed it, unity is a monster who strips the free will from those it infects.
would have been a better ending too.
Rick disagrees.
>unity is a monster who strips the free will from those it infects.
The fanbase seems to forget that Unity's whole deal is wanting to assimilate the universe. In her first episode she planned to infiltrate the galactic federation so she could spread far and wide.
Her being hot distracts from the terror she is.
I'd reach out and maybe call the police or something but that'd be it.
Absolutely a cope post.
Nah, just able to pay attention. Rick and Unity were both in the right, up until Rick handled the situation in the worst possible way.
>Unity taking over virginia was a good thing!
It was brave and powerful
No one would have missed Virginia to be fair.
Unity taking over Virginia to talk Rick off a ledge is understandable and coming from a good place.
Not at all.
The road to hell is aved with good intentions
Unity took care of them and handled it as well as she should have. Both her and Rick had understandable motivations, but Rick handled the situation poorly. The episode implied that their history together justified a different response.
>The episode implied that their history together justified a different response.
Considering what we saw of their history together as well as the way they split up last time it didn't. If it actually did, it's a failure on the writer's part to not have showed it better.
I can agree that they left a little too much up to their offscreen history to be as persuasive as possible.
>The episode implied
This is such a peasant way of thinking.
Yeah, media literacy is pretty great.
>I'm media literate because I refuse to use critical thinking
Enjoy your scraps, peasant.
Exact opposite. I’m media literate because I’m able to think critically enough to see how characters act and understand the deeper conflict happening. I don’t need motivations or exposition said to the camera to understand.
>I don’t need motivations or exposition said to the camera to understand.
All of the motivations were stated directly to the camera, not only in this episode, but in most Rick and Morty episodes. Rick and Morty also loves to tell the audience exactly what the moral of each episode is, and you're here telling everyone who thinks that the writers botched the moral that they're wrong because the writers said so.
In my opinion they’re wrong because consistently the people complaining about it are making improper comparisons. The writers could have improved their moral with a slightly better portrayal of their offscreen history and/or a better address of their first episode, but that’s not what people are complaining about. People are saying either the show was making a weird feminist statement or that Unity is insane.
The writers could've improved the moral by picking a character other than Unity and making them do something less extreme than assimilating Virginia into their hivemind.
Damn, looks like I got fooled. I thought you were a sincere fanboy coping but in reality you're just trolling. You've bamboozled me.
Given the first thing we see of unity is her mind controlling people, it shows she's a shit person.
Maybe the show has too much faith in people to empathize with non-human motivations. Unity was carefully portrayed as the most sympathetic version of herself but if you still can’t accept it, it is what it is.
>This unrepentant serial rapist was carefully portrayed as the most sympathetic version of herself but if you still can’t accept it, it is what it is.
Listen to yourself.
>Rapist
Lol
It was the moment where they decided to commit to a direction that broke the characters. Harmon wanted to wax on his divorce and ascended Rick to Godhood and it was the moment Morty stopped being the main character. In isolation the episode is actually fun, but in context modern Rick and Morty is a direct result of how they decided to handle S2’s finale.
>thinking rape is funny
How insensitive.
This seems to me less like the episode itself picked a bad direction, and more like they later failed to properly follow through on the direction they set up. The season three premiere suggests exactly the direction I wanted for the show: something where Rick is an incredibly powerful and incredibly malevolent antagonist, like a more comedic version of Moral Orel where Clay is like a god. If I had to point to an episode that defined the worse aspects of the show's direction over the past few seasons, it'd much more likely be Pickle Rick. Pickle Rick is like a cruel failed impression of the season three premiere. Why it became a breakout meme, I have little idea. I know normies really like "comedy" about food. It inherently gets lolrandom points with them or something.
Totally fair. I want Rick to be redeemed but if you want Rick to decline then it makes sense you’d feel differently.
Dude, relax.
>thought terminating cliche
I prefer constructive effortposts to whining.
I get you. I also think that not treating Rick as the villain is perhaps the biggest mistake of the entire series.
That’s interesting. I’ve never once thought that way. I always thought this show was going to slowly heal the character relationships. To me, the only appropriate conclusion for this series is to determine that things do matter in the face of nihilism. I guess you can get there with evil Rick and redeemed Rick.
Cool another disingenuous post.
You could just write a bot that appends this to random Cinemaphile comments
Don’t be a douche.
You don't have to be pro-nihilism to be anti-Rick. I highly doubt that anyone in the audience would be willing to forgive him if his actions were the same but the framing was less sympathetic.
No no, I agree, I just thought of how they’d tell that story differently. To me the answer was to develop Morty as the philosophical opponent to Rick’s mindset and slowly grow them together. But if Rick goes full evil that would also work. I like Rick and want him to be redeemed, even in death, but evil Rick is a valid hope.
>This seems to me less like the episode itself picked a bad direction, and more like they later failed to properly follow through on the direction they set up.
The thing is, they did. Seasons 3 promised the darkest year of their adventure and it delivered. It planted all the seeds that would go on to damage the show.
Season 3 pushes the idea of Rick and Morty having a toxic relationship. While Rick is definitely an butthole, he wasn't really a monster to Morty. Season 3 Rick traumatizes Morty in episodes like Vindicators for no real reason.
Season 3 tries too hard to be smart. Sometimes it works like with the Citadel episode, but more often than not you get shit like Wong and "Worse, you're smart".
Speaking of which, Beth is ruined beyond repair. Season 1 and 2 Beth kissed Rick's ass because she doesn't want Rick to leave. Season 3 says Beth is just like Rick in the worst way possible, revealing she was actually an evil kid, something that is never implied or used again in future episodes. Ever since then she's just been cringey and it created Space Beth too.
Hot take but I think Space Beth is a possible path to improving Beth if they dedicate the time.
NTA but as people have said, she could of just possessed the Senator and tracked Rick down via using his government connections or power play. Plus she went out of her way to atagonize Rick by not only making the hive minded people have an orgy without their consent, but also made Virginia "couples only" to rub it into Rick's face that he's single. Thst's not the actions of someone who cares, that's crybully mean girl bullshit.
>TL;DR
Unless you like to be drugged and made to suck an anon's wiener while getting anally annilated by an alien strap-on, Unity raped those peoplr and sadly you might be the biggest homosexual in this thread anon.
You’re cracked out
And sadly you're a shillgay. Best unclench and get the shaft out your ass before they leave you prolapsed like a haypenny harlot.
Meds.
Kegels.
>Break up with girl
>Keep calling her number despite never picking up
>Leave notes on her car window shield and mail box
>Show up one day on her front lawn with presents and chocolate because I was afraid she might "hurt herself"
>I'm the bad guy in this situation
Yea this is sane behavior that can't possibly escalate into something else.
Honestly this description still downplays how much of the bad guy Unity was being, because it doesn't have anything even slightly comparable to stealing the bodies of the population of fricking Virginia
False comparison.
No
Yes, by a lot. Rick is currently going towards the equivalent of suicide.
Yeah so was the girl who broke up with the frog poster from his perspective. Very apt comparison.
>Presents and chocolate
No, it’s not. Cartoonishly incorrect.
Anon if green text was occurring in real life it would be clear tell signs of a stalker about to turn abuser. Especially when the people in question had a messy breakup that involved a third party mid way.
Maybe you're just too much a simp to see, but that shit ends in restraining orders or death.
You’re making a false comparison to what’s really going on in the show.
Show side steps the entire creep act by centering the issue on Rick engaging in dangerous behavior and showing that he did need to improve. We even go so far as to blame Rick for not picking up the phone the first time.
If I beat my wife but it did lead to her getting her shit together as a more responsible person, we would not be quiet about the steps it took to reach that idea or claim it wouldn't have gone that far if she took to heart the first time I yelled at her.
>We even go so far as to blame Rick for not picking up the phone the first time.
Wrong.
>If I beat my wife
False comparison.
The episode works because:
A. They are portrayed as having a history that’s more than just a fling (old friends that still care for eachother)
B. Rick is heading towards his own destruction (suicide)
C. Rick’s reaction to being reached out to caused more harm than the reaching out itself by a lot
Rick would have had the high road if he had told her to frick off without injuring her or trusting her to leave without the threat of physical violence. Instead he made the mistake that just because she broke up with him that she can’t be trusted not to be a monster (which invalidates everything they had in the past). He fricked up, he knows he fricked up and trying to compare it improperly to a scenario in your head is just reaching for something to get mad at.
>A.
We got introduced to them in one ep. They had a history and in same ep he ends up cucked by another hive mind. That wasn't good end and was presumably the worst end they've had.
>B.
True. But guess what? Thats not up to your EX to bang the door down and force themselves into your life over. Especially when they are such good "friends" that they know you have your own support network or at least people who are still in your life.
>C
He didn't pick up and ignored all calls. Thats his right.
You can't go show up on your ex's front door, school, work, etc because they haven't responded to you but have history of suicide. It is literal creep behavior.
Rick's reactions to her reasoning sucked sure, but guess what? He didn't owe her a face to face to begin with. Just because you dicked down someone in the past doesn't give them a skeleton key to your life whenever they want.
>They got introduced in one ep
And that history was expounded upon this episode (Unity’s and Rick’s actions).
>It’s not up to your EX
Clearly they have that kind of history that it was appropriate in a life or death situation.
>History of suicide
False comparison. It’s not the equivalent of “he might be thinking about offing himself again” it’s “he’s going to the roof with the intention to jump off”
>That’s his right
100% as was his right to refuse to talk or receive help. The moment he told her to frick off she obliged, but he did more than that. He didn’t just say get away from me, he injured her and put others in a situation he couldn’t fix. He didn’t have the trust as a friend that she would leave without incident. He had to come crawling back because he let his emotion get in the way of his logic or knowledge of who she is. The lesson of the episode was that just because an old friend caused you pain, doesn’t mean they’re a monster.
At the end of the day you’re extrapolating on one action taken out of good faith and with good reason, in a crisis situation and you’re blowing it into this false equivalence fanfiction relating to a domestic situation, and you’re not properly looking at how Rick decided to react. How an adult should react to their Ex crossing a boundary you deem unacceptable.
>If I beat my wife
False comparison because what she did was so much worse than that.
go back to sucking dicks on reddit
nice bait woman, now return to reddit
Meds
Learn to read woman
>Unity takes over Virgina
>Makes it exclusively for lovers since her and Rick used to bang
>Rick is to busy jerking off to Interdeminisal Cable to notice her trying to reach out by taking over a state.
Did anyone else notice that Rick referred to Unity as “them” rather than “it” like he originally did?
>girl breaks up with YOU
>meaning she no longer sees you as a viable partner
>somehow, if you don't respond to her random calls YOU are the butthole despite the fact SHE broke up with you
>this is also ghosting, somehow
Rick didn't ghost her. She showed up uninvited instead of taking the hint. Make it make sense, sis.
Why am I expected to care about any of these recurring or returning characters when it's not even the same ones.
Not the same Unity, not the same Dr. Wong, not the same President, who gives a shit
Rick isn't the same Rick either, the family too, the only who has remained the same since episode 1 is Morty.
Wait, when did Rick change?
I know he died and Phoenix'd in another universe but it's still the same conciousness
Did you guys notice they moved 'Created by Justin Roiland and Dan Harmon' to the end of the credits instead of the end of the opening?
Shut up, Slowpoke
Does anyone still care about the lore? I just want the show to either be good or crash and burn.
Since when is "wiener" censored?
Imagine still caring for this shitshow past season 2
I say season 5.
grass tastes bad
AIDS!
The biggest problem with modern rick and morty is that characters are angry all the time.
the fact that you guys are arguing about it so much tells me it was atleast decent
It was. Biggest flaw of the episode was that it wasn’t that funny. As a story it was good and clearly setting up for something more.
The fact that you guys are arguing about it so much tells me it was shit and this one weirdo trying to defend the poor writing is an idiot.
Meds
meant for
You’re such a little b***h hahaha
sorry but I don't see how rick was in any way to blame for what happened in episode 3
what unity did was actually psychotic
he's moving on and bettering himself but somehow he needs to be the one to prove himself to her when she's the one that walked out on him in the first place
Rick wasn’t to blame until the moment when he said he didn’t trust Unity to leave on her own accord.
consider this
you have an ex, they randomly show up trespassing at your house
do you trust them to just go away or are you getting a restraining order?
same thing
I don’t think this context directly translates to an earth relationship but if it did you’re forgetting that the only reason she’s reaching out is she thinks you’re killing yourself, and it’s not a restraining order it’s pointing a shotgun at her face and ordering her to frick off. Rick endangered those people and effectively put his heartache above anything else including all of his history with her. He didn’t owe her a cordial discussion, but he did owe her the benefit of the doubt.
Speaking of nostalgia/lorebaiting with old characters, young Birdperson is due to appear again sometime unless I missed it earlier.
I swear their whole thing was
> I don't do cannon just self contained adventures
I think I might have been decieved.
S4+5 was an attempt to lean more into fricking around and it was the low point of the series. Season 6+7 is doing more canon in earnest, probably in an attempt to get the character dynamics down to facilitate more classic adventures later.
The lie that Rick believed was that just because Unity hurt him with how she ended their relationship she can’t be trusted not to act like a monster. He can’t be faulted for not wanting to talk to his ex, and Unity can’t be faulted for being concerned that he’s rushing to his death. What he can be faulted with is how he chose to react, putting his emotions above logic.
Unity is my favorite episode and one of my favorite side characters and I’m happy she’s still relevant.
Major death flags for Unity.
Rick Prime will kill him.
why should I care about death where there's infinite versions of a character out there?
Either you learn that lesson along with Rick or you don’t.
Wait, so is Season 7 Unity even the same Unity as in Season 2 or whatever? Haven't they jumped universes several times since then (squirrels, frundles, etc.)
The show has not done a good job of explaining that. We’ve gotten indications that these somehow are the same characters, but no indications of how that could be. Timegod Jessica? Something bigger going on?
Could Unity assimilate Mr Frundles?
If she caught him early on maybe but if he's planet sized converting other planets it's doubtful.
the squirrels where a gag so im pretty sure they were not canon, but im pretty sure everyone just jumps universes, or atleast someting similar, its not explained in the same way the floating timeline isnt explained (why morty does not get older, etc) its a plot hole to keep the rhythm going because explaining this stuff is boring
I won’t be happy if they leave it at “don’t think about it”. I trust them to give us a reason at some point.
I don't think the squirrels were "not canon" - that's stupid - but I do think that they probably didn't actually wind up jumping universes over them. The memory pointedly cut out before any actual universe jumping happened. If they did actually jump universes over it, Solaricks probably demonstrated that it didn't wind up mattering, but I think it's more likely that Rick did wind up finding a better solution after all.
The easiest way to handwave that would be that the squirrel memory belongs to the Morty that lived in that dimension before getting killed and replaced in Rick Potion #9.
We all tend to assume that the same things that happen to our duo happen across the multiverse but this isn't always true considering that the Rick and Morty they switched their Jerry with in Mortynight Run managed to avoid the plot of said episode all because that Morty decided not to be a hero and try to save the fart cloud, instead choosing to goof off with Rick at Blitz and Chitz.
The thing is that with the Cronenberg swap and the Frundles swap, it's explicitly stated that Rick found a dimension exactly equivalent to the old one (the only different detail with the Frundles swap being the pronunciation of "parmesan"). Of course, Rick could easily be exaggerating the similarity in an attempt to calm Morty and the family down, but it would definitely be a surprising reveal if we learned about any other or more major differences.
Someone in the previous thread mentioned that the upcoming Rick's famous spaghetti episode could be about the chaos unfolding once someone in the family, likely Jerry, slips up and pronounces it as "parmesan" instead of that reality's pronunciation. The idea of crazy shit happening as a result of that sounds like it would be fun considering that the episode goes out of its way to present itself as innocuous and unexciting in every trailer and promo for it.
Lol that’d be hilarious. But even if That’s Amorte DOESN’T turn out to be plot-heavy, I’m still looking forward to another Vat of Acid surprise.
>Someone in the previous thread mentioned that the upcoming Rick's famous spaghetti episode could be about the chaos unfolding once someone in the family, likely Jerry, slips up and pronounces it as "parmesan" instead of that reality's pronunciation.
Creative idea, but I don't think even this batch of writers would feel bold enough to rest a big, series-changing event on an idiot like Jerry pronouncing a word slightly wrong. I'm still expecting a Parmesan joke though. It's probably all over the advertising because they think it's their best one-off and/or they think it has the most "iconic" imagery in the sense that it's easy to identify and memorable.
For what it's worth, I think That's Amorte might be the Blade one because the backgrounds look similar between the trailer and the title reveal.
Supposedly they go to a near identical universe each time so the same things happened and it's effectively the same characters. But yeah it really cheapens everything when you know Rick accidentally destroying the universe while drunk or something has zero consequences because he'll just yell "yaba dubba dubdub" and portal to a fresh one.
While that would be the worst reason for me, I could accept it if from now on Rick refuses to jump dimensions and abandon the people around him from now on. Perhaps he’ll be tested on that. The show seems to want to have us believe he’s changed enough to care about the specific versions of his family and friends again.
Rick can't be this smart if he hasn't figured out yet that he should always obey women
Rick is a main character. Right now they’re trying to do a 180 on Rick being the most philosophically correct person in the show. His worldview was justified over and over again to the point where he became a Gary Stu and the rest of the characters became more like him. Now that the show wants to walk it back to either a happy medium or admit that Rick’s POV is the cope that it truly is and things do matter, he needs to develop, and in order to develop he needs to be wrong. This was not a gendered episode in terms of the text.
>Rick being the most philosophically correct person in the show
When the frick was that lmao
Rick may have been right or defeated his enemies multiple times but he's a wreck and always has been. He has no real friend, horrendrous relationship with his family, spend his time doing egoistical dumb shit because he can and has no real goal in life. This is shown from the very episode. Unless you're a redditor you can't possibly think Rick is philosophically correct.
Rick is wrong ultimately but the show justified his beliefs very hard in Season 3 (the most), 4 and 5 (compared to Season 2). Jerry not being the buttmonkey anymore and actually serving to balance the worldview is a big step. Season 6 was another big step in affirming thst this specific family matters (to the audience and Rick). Season 7 so far is doubling down on that with his friends and Unity. Prime is the conduit for Rick to attack his demons head on, pay the price and come out the other side having changed in some way. We don’t know exactly how yet. To me the most interesting piece of the puzzle is what they’ll do with Morty, who is also due for a character shift.
What a shit episode, it felt like something they would crank out during season 4
episode was good but they need to make pic related the main chracter from now on
This episode was his best and he still isn’t great. He isn’t a good character, more of a good excuse to get into certain kinds of adventures.
His best episode was "get shwifty", specifically because he was barely a character at that point.
Get Shwifty is the best episode with him in it, but I think this one was his best showing.
I want Mr. Nimbus to become the new main character.
25% approval rating.
so what are we thinking?
slightly better than episode 1, much worse than episode 2?
I appreciate that they're trying to do some character development, at least there's an attempt at something. but I didn't even smirk a single time and not because there was no attempt at humor. also, the president is another one-note character that doesn't deserve more screentime
Worst in the season so far. 1 and 2 can't compare.
In my opinion S7E1 is the worst episode in the show and it isn’t close, easily dethroning the sperm episode, so it isn’t even in the conversation.
I prefer S7E3 to S7E2 but I can acknowledge S7E2 was funnier. Both I’d call good, not great. Feels like they are planting seeds for bigger ideas later.
It was actually kind of funny, but the therapist dragged it down hard, from the dumb love square with the president to blaming Rick for Unity being a c**t
As far as being the followup to my favorite episode from when the show was good, it could have been way worse. I like what it’s doing for the characters, but it’s ultimately not funny enough to be enjoyable in a vacuum. Maybe in retrospect it’ll be better, but for right now it was kind of just fine.
IMO worse episode since Get Schwifty
Bold opinion
were the funyuns a power play? or did they get the liscencing. if not a funyuns lawsuit suing rick and morty would be great PR
14:06 rick and Morty
1:03 spongebob sickpants
I haven't seen this cartoon in at least 5 years how did I remember that sound effect ?????
Wacky Science Rick > Self Improvement Rick > Cynical Bugs Bunny Chadgod Rick
It feels like another overcorrection. Season 3 imploded what the show had going and they’ve been playing catchup ever since. Season 4 and 5 was an attempt at being more goofy and adventure focused and that led to some trash shitpost episodes, and Season 6 and so far 7 has been an attempt to refocus on canon and character but now at the expense of humor. My hope is after this Prime arc we’ll have a big return to a balance of fun and pathos. At least the show is being more earnest in the meantime.
>At least the show is being more earnest in the meantime.
>unpersons its creator and finds poor imitations
>earnest
He was literally an abuser
You are literally a homosexual
I’m clearly talking about the writing, not the real life drama.
I thought episode 2 was a decent balance of fun and character development
episode 3 was all character development, no fun
and episode 1 was just a nothingburger, entirely skippable
Yep, that’s about right. Episode 2 was the closest to feeling like a classic episode 2 me, just not quite a home run on all aspects.
They’re doing a great job of fixing Rick. I think Jerry is better. I think Beth and Summer could use improvement but are trending in the correct direction. The real missing link is Morty. Morty’s chemistry with Rick has been pretty much shattered. They need to find a new dynamic that makes them work as a duo, because for right now Jerry and Rick are closer to the original dynamic of Rick and Morty than current Rick and Morty.
Roiland fanboys bringing the worst complaints on a board known for bringing the worst complaints.
The anime will mog the main show even harder than Bushworld Adventures.
They're making an anime?
Very interesting, I think, that the Inside The Episode didn't comment on right or wrong in Rick and Unity's conflict at all.
Did anyone else think that this guy was probably originally Roiland-voiced?
Most of them were probably originally Roiland voiced, anon.
Hey! I'm a little white cuck boy and I liked it!
I didn't even watch episode 2 this seasona dn I feel like I didn't miss anything.
Remember when this show was Rick and Morty and not "Therapy Hour with Rick Sanchez"
It was the best of the three.
>didn't even watch episode 2
You missed the only good episode so far.
Are people really still watching Rick and Morty?
Expect the season finale to touch on it, and nothing to be accomplished when his nemesis gets away for season 8, 9 and 10.
What's the likelihood of a season 11 renewal?
They’re gonna do it.
The crew seem to expect it, so tentatively I'd say likelier than not. I wouldn't be surprised either way, though.
I just think the idea of the show ending abruptly on season 10 after it closes out with another Rick Prime tease is really funny
big, but considering the show has actual lore i dont know for how long they could keep it up, there is so much story you can make you know
The producers have even publicly admitted to it. They're stretching out the overarching narrative by limiting it to 1 or 2 episodes a season like lorefans have caught on. The question is how they can still treat the show as another "never-ending adult animated sitcom." Even South Park with its occasional story arcs and lasting consequences doesn't have tons of buildup or require payoffs the way Rick and Morty does.
Not sure if that view will hold up after this season. It looks like this is a lore-heavier one - what I'm seeing of it makes it look like it'll have far more continuity stuff than any past season.
True. The surprise Memory Rick cameo last week and the Rick Prime mention last night give me hope. Still not enough to wash the taste of Poopy out of my mouth tho
If you go through the list, literally every remaining episode looks like it inherently pushes some kind of crazy lore shit forwards, and the last two episodes already had more lore than it looked like they would.
>S7E04: "Rick's famous spaghetti"; the episode getting teased the most; has been compared to Vat Of Acid; mysterious
>S7E05: mysterious Rick Prime bait we know practically nothing about; we've been told there are big changeups in the middle of the season
>S7E06: direct Roy sequel
>S7E07: mind-blowers sequel
>S7E08: likely shitpost episode, but still, Water-T sequel
>S7E09: Bigfoot kills Rick???
>S7E10: season finale, Evil Morty has been teased for it
: season finale, Evil Morty has been teased for it
what else is there to do with evil morty? he's not a threat to rick or anyone really. his goal was to escape the curve and he did just that. am i missing something?
That’s Amorte, Wet Hot Amortican Summer, Unmortricken and Fear no Mort all look promising.
so how many other people are refusing to watch any episode past the fireing of Justin Roiland?
I'm sure there are a lot of people doing it; lot of morons out there, anon
I support Justin and the show.
Roiland himself contributed to the culture that destroyed his career and would have just as easily stuck the knife into someone else for the same thing. He had it coming
the only good this about this show is summer hot ass that’s it
i hope they show a e-girl version of her one day
Happier with Morticia, personally, and she's not even really in the show
search Summer Meets God
they are speaking japanese not interested in watching the full thing will e-girl summer appear?
There are subtitles, dumbass
I don't spoonfeed mouthbreathers. You're gonna dribble all over yourself.
I'm just not attracted to this art style. And the personality really does not help.
I can only ever see genderbent Jerry when I see Summer lewds, I genuinely dont get the appeal
I don't think the art style is at fault. The weirdos still trying to pretend Summer is hot will always look silly to me.
Summer looks better than any of those b***hes.(Morticia is even better though.)
No. Those characters are all decidedly more attractive than she-jerry.
I disagree, but I have to admit that it's to Summer's discredit that I'm seriously considering the idea that Beth is more attractive than her, even though she's way out of my age range. To be fair, we do have a young version of Beth established in the show, who totally mogs her grown design
I guess the summer people are just incest fetishists who got baited by the show? because she's kind of repulsive
yeah the incest part is adds to the appeal too enough though i’m not really into incest there are rare occasions when it does something for me and with summer is one of those occasions
Do you do art? You seem like the type that does art.
no unfortunately i wish i did
i don’t like to watch american toons in non american dub exactly how i don’t like watching anime in non jap dub anyways i did find this though which fuels my desire of cute e-girl summer even more
I like Summer x Morty as a secondary thing but nah I genuinely like her. She’s really chill.
Older sister appeal is a part of it but I think Summer would make for a really comfy girlfriend. She’s level headed and easygoing, but not without passion for what she’s interested in. She’s relatively stable (for a girl her age) but just insecure enough to benefit from a healthy relationship. She’s smart enough to have a good conversation with, but not so much so that she’s obnoxious. She’s had enough experience to have a practical outlook on life, but she’s not so far gone that she can’t relate to “normies”. She craves connection, and is likely to be devoted to where she gets it. She’s got a good sense of humor, and is in touch with her masculine and feminine side. She strikes me as on the path to being a cool mom too.
Really her biggest flaws are a little basic b***h feminist insecurity (and a good relationship with a man would clear that right up) and a social media addiction (ditto). Moreso than a lot of female characters, she’d actually be pretty compatible with most decent dudes in real life (Not necessarily super strict on looks but she has reasonable standards). She was more vapid in the early seasons but that has slowly gone away.
Summer has an actual character and I interpret her abstract design as attractive.
those are too perfect and hot i like the too (excluding the alien) but summer’s appeal is different she sells the normal highschooler part pretty well which makes her hot i guess like the appeal of e-girl in anime but not really e-girl also since we’re talking about hot r&m characters i think planetina deserves a mention
On that topic, was anyone else really surprised on rewatches to discover that Planetina was actually supposed to be understood as a milf type? On my first watch, I very confidently understood her as equivalent to Morty's age or younger; I thought that Beth was being pedantic and it was a Peter Pan situation where she was a magical being whose chronological age was meaningless. But on rewatches, no, she's definitely supposed to be a /ss/ physical and (???) mental adult; Beth's discomfort on her was based on a visual read of her age, not just based on her literally having been around in the '90s.
mhhh i didn’t rewatch but from my only watch i always saw it as a big age gap relationship thing because of the size difference and morty mum’s disapproval
SEXOOOOO
My wife makes me excited about the show but she isn’t the only good part.
They’ll probably pull her out someday.
I realized earlier today that if they ever do a Morticia episode the obvious title is She's The Mort. There are lots of different gimmicks they could do for it, but the one that occurred to me today was a (classic Adventure Time) Fionna And Cake-style thing where it's just an episode arbitrarily set in a 63ed universe for no reason.
That would be safest if they just want to have fun with it for sure.
Couple of seasons ago, before the Planetina episode dropped, I was working off of incomplete information and came to the conclusion that they were going to do a romcom-style episode where Morty dated a Morticia. That certainly would have been something. Kind of redundant territory now with the Beths, though.
Yeah I think they probably cashed that in with them. If Morti interacts it’ll probably be as friends maybe they experiment in an episode but not a permanent mainstay. I think the best candidate for the mortybowl is oddly bird daughter right now.
It's certainly a possibility! I do find Jessica rather likelier, though. I don't think the time god thing was actually a permanent closing of that thread, and she's been there from episode one. I also have suspicions that Birddaughter is going to wind up in an antagonistic role.
Fair play, that’s totally possible. I think Jessica has a lot of potential energy there.
I also feel the need to note that I have an audience-trolling gimmick in mind for She's The Mort, which is that some major canon shit goes down during it, but we don't get to see the canon version of it because we're stuck watching the genderswapped version instead. Some big plot payoff on the order of Rick Prime getting defeated, and we missed it because the camera happened to be tuned to the Rita-And-Morticia-'verse at the time instead. People would fricking riot. It'd be great.
We're three episodes in but it just feels Season 7 is a lot more different than other seasons.
First Morty is very irrelevant, he was barely in these episodes. Season 6 also changed dynamics by including the whole family in plots more often, but this was because there was no portal travel. Rick and Family was a novel idea but when the portal gun got repaired it went back to Rick and Morty. Now the show is just Rick and I can't tell why? It seems the theme of the season is showing Rick's growth by having him interact with people from his past. Maybe this is all leading up to Rick permanently abandoning his search for Rick Prime because he doesn't need that cancer in his life. In any case I don't see why Morty needs to be absent in these episodes. The show at its core is about their relationship and should prioritize that first. I'm not trying to sound triggered over Wong's existence, but I think Morty would have had a more interesting conversation with Unity.
If you look at the upcoming episodes list it seems pretty obvious, I think, that we're about to pivot focus hard from Rick back to Morty. I actually expect the season will ultimately be more about Morty than Rick. Just kind of a misleading first three episodes.
Morty has changed so much as a character that they don’t actually work well together. I think this season is doing a lot of set-up to repair their bond. Rick comes first, then Morty, then the two of them. If I were to hazard a guess we’re getting a retry of season 2’s finale under different circumstances but instead of Rick Gary Stuing out of the situation Morty has to come in clutch.
Yikes.
Yikes? S3E1 is the frickup the team has been chasing since it happened. Only makes sense that’s how they fix it. Rick’s being prepped for a big loss.
It's weird IMO how hating S3E01 seems to be the default opinion around here now. I remember how hyped everyone was when it came out; at the time I would have considered it an insane fringe opinion and probably outright contrarianism to not put it in the top tier of RAM episodes. There are real criticisms I'd advance of it, but overall it's certainly what I think of as "peak Rick And Morty", and I'd tend to assume most other people who like the show feel the same, assuming they're not normies who fell for the Cringe McDonalds Sauce Incident meme.
Is it actually the default opinion around here, or is it just one anon or a few anons who post a lot? Did some people see that it was by far the lowest-Neilsen-rated episode of the show, base their opinion on that, and fail to notice that it was purely because it aired unannounced as an April Fools' Day gimmick, and it very likely would have been the highest-rated episode of the show if it had airead as a regular season premiere?
You really need to calm down. Take a breath.
You linked the same comment twice and it wasn't me lmao
What are the chances that AS gets Ice-T to voice himself in Rise of the Numbericons?
Why would they? Ice-T was literally only put in the show in the first place because people liked Dan Harmon's impression of him.
Because R&M loves celebrity guest stars.
If they didn't get him the first time, why would they get him now?
Dr. Wong is still voiced by a white person though.
If they cared that bad about it they would have recast Wong. Yes, yes, blacks are higher on the progressive stack, but she'd already drawn actual complaints and Ice-T didn't. If they considered Dan Harmon voicing Ice-T a shameful chapter of their history they would have simply not revisited it.
>she'd already drawn actual complaints
Beth isn't a complaint, she's just racist like Jerry.
No, I mean in real life
>3 episodes into the new season
>Every single episode has Morty kicked to the curb and is all about Rick
Morty is heavily represented in the back half.
More than the back half; it looks like he's heavily represented in the whole back seven tenths.
The Rick voice is fine because literally anyone can do a shitty Rick impression. Morty on the other hand is that unique Roiland voice. Literally every Morty impersonation sounds like shit and is 100% why Morty hasn't said or done shit in 3 episodes.
These episodes were made before Roiland was fired and then redubbed with the new voices.
Okay, first off, I hope you're baiting and not yet another anon who's unaware that the season was complete before they fired Justin. Second off, I disagree; the new Rick voice is easily more jarring than the new Morty voice, and if I didn't know better, I'd think that they were giving us three Rick-heavy episodes right off the bat to force us to get used to it. Morty's voice already varied much more than Rick's under Roiland, and that wasn't entirely surprising, either - it's to be expected of a teenage boy.
>the new Rick voice is easily more jarring than the new Morty voice
>Morty sounds fine
https://vocaroo.com/15umvlPKodK9
Correct.
>that is fricking gay but not as gay as
Both don't sound like Rick or Morty at all and also Roiland was recasted so late in the process that there is dialogue he recorded for the first episode that got leaked so it definitely didn't change the writing.
>don't sound like Rick or Morty at all
That's an exaggeration. Morty sounds fine. Rick sounds like a gay college student who hates Rick And Morty playing Rick in his drama class's fanfiction musical about Rick And Morty where Rick is gay
Change my mind: this shit is the worst episode Rick And Morty ever did
what's wrong with it? sociopath morty was fun
It has a lot of good ideas, but it doesn't know how to make them cohere well into a story. It's trying to do galaxy brain shit with a character dynamic it isn't sufficiently confident in.
It pulls out the tired trope that a character who excises a bad trait needs to get it back for whatever contrived status quo reason
It’s a bit cliche but for what it was I thought it was fine. Nowhere near sperm or the premiere episode of this season which was just bad Family Guy.
Literally one of the best in the entire show, stfu
>One-off sci-fi concept executed well, meaningful, that plays with the strengths of the characters
How the frick was it bad?
You literally get a scene with two ricks fighting each other with crazy house weapons.
It's was ok, there are much worse episodes.
i dont get why people are so up in arms about roiland getting booted, in the later seasons it sounded like he was phoning it in anyway. additionally, before he got "cancelled," im sure a lot of the people currently defending him thought he was a homosexual anyway
I wonder how the inevitable movie will be. Part of me hopes they’ve had the time to figure it out but the other side of me fears that it’ll be slapdash.
why does every show need a movie?
Money + clout
Even as a Rick and Morty diehard still looking forward to every episode this season, I really don't want a movie. The show itself is already made up of big cinematic adventures in chewable 22-minute episodes. In a way, each episode is its own movie. A theatrical film would no doubt be a standalone story, so there's really nothing to gain from such a format besides seeing if they can make the visuals somehow better with a bigger budget (something I feel the show has more or less already reached the peak of).
The show already looks great and regularly does big ideas every week. A movie would be redundant aside from getting to see more hand-drawn animation I guess.
IDK, I think it'd be kind of fun to see the show operating at a slower narrative pace so things can breathe more. Still as many gags and ideas as would go in several episodes of the show, but with a movie's runtime to actually process whatever the story circle is over.
True. I have heard of fans saying too much happens too quickly in some episodes. More breathing room would be a cool thing to see. I guess that'd be another advantage of doing a feature-length project: the pacing would be different.
This was some stale shit, I legit don't give a frick about any of these recycled characters and drama, this show just shows it has nothing new to tell to its viewers. Krapopolis episode 6 was unironically funnier.
>Watching Krapopolis
It's growing one, it's fun. All the characters are super relatable and fun to follow so far.
Ep3 had some good jokes, I have to admit. Much better writing than the first 2 episodes.
d00d heckin' nazis
here one of the request of the other day, i fall asleep and kinda forgot about it
Pretty nice, anon.
Yo! Thanks anon that’s great!
I like how this shitty ass show has strayed away from being a comedy and even when its a comedy its lame as frick.
The reason that’s amorte is being compared to vat of acid and pickle rick is because it’s this season’s emmybait episode. It’ll either be cinematically written like vat of acid or go all in on animation like pickle rick. I wouldn’t be surprised if it has a higher animation quality compared to the rest of the season like final desmithnation in s6.
I did not care for the vat of acid episode.
the ending made it worth it
>therapist episode
Easy skip. No wonder it took forever for a MEGA to generate.
You’ll probably lost later as it sets up some stuff.
Any reason to keep that boring anti-funny b***h coming back huh?
Only good part of episode 1 was the cold open
Episode 2 was good
Episode 3 was alright but the therapy spoon feeding was heavyhanded. The note scene in the original unity episode worked because it was more interesting than the therapist just talking.
DONT YOU GET IT??? THE JOKE IS THEY ARE TEASING THE AUDIENCE WITH LORE HEAVY EPISODES BUT INSTEAD GIVING US RANDOM DOGSHIT EPISODES INSTEAD!!!
ITS GENIUS!! IM SUBVERTING EXPECTATIONS RIIIIIIIIICK!
This season has the highest amount of blending between canon and adventure.
No it doesn't.
It clearly does. You’ll see.
>Episode 1 managed to oversaturate Mr Poopy Butthole to the point that he was a really annoying character instead of a charming side character. The whole Predator shit was a lame reference.
>Episode 2 tapped into the Rick and Jerry team up monkeys paw and was awful. Throw in the most mid gangster references and it's another steamy pile of an episode.
>POTUS episode. Skip.
Unity and Rick are both toxic for eachother but are trying to do better. It was Wong who dropped the ball this episode by a lot.
Wong was asked to lie to fix this and she did. She picked the side that would make things right.
The episode was about being able to respond to life’s annoyances in a healthy way.
First it was the scientologist. Rick is annoyed because he has a different perspective, but the proper response is “frick it, worship how you want”.
We saw it with Summer when she pried further than necessary and Rick blew up at her, but knew enough to feel sorry about it.
An EX crossing a line is the greatest test of Rick to develop, and he failed. The hope is that he’s able to take this as a growth opportunity. Patience, good faith and appropriate, healthy responses to life’s interactions are measures by the moments when they’re most difficult. Rick can’t be faulted for his feelings, but he can grow from here.
Every p[resident episode has been dogshit. Hes a terrible and annoying character. A waste of a good VA.
Show me unity, I haven't seen the episode. I need to see her so I can draw her.
Sexiest design in the entire show.
Beth has her moments.
At least make her eighteen or something.
Between Diane and Unity, Rick has spectacular taste.
Don't forget that stadium full of redheads
Did she show up again in the show?
Yes, it was the main plot of last week's episode, please keep up
I don't have a TV anymore. Is a mega here?
https://mega.nz/file/NH130ZaD#gUFN4gJp1Pwkj5Onli4qzvt4YpObV1LRF7HLYh2JFks
>s7 ep1
bushworld adventures is still peak rick and morty
This season is so fricking boring holy fricking shit.
Does anyone else notice the huge amounts of dead time?
the jokes per minute are really bad yes, a ton of dead air and lack of payoffs. people keep saying that we wont see the effects of justin's absence but i think he contributed way more than people said he did, and i think they wrote way less ahead of time than people said they did too, it's looking like he helped with the first two episodes of season 7 when he got fired, cause this episode feels like a huger void, and the president has been fully flanderized out of nowhere, very sharp uncharacteristic decline rather than a slow devolution
you are completely delusional if you think either that we're already to content where the writing was impacted by Justin's firing or that Justin was contributing much to the writing for the last few seasons
My evidence, by the way, is that if Justin had been contributing much for the last few seasons they would have been funnier.
If they brought Unity back, maybe they'll bring others back. I hope we see Planetina - and she's a down on her luck Single Mom.
I hate Dr. Wong more than I hate Space Beth.
I like both
>>3 episodes into the new season
>>no hunting his nemesis
I too am disheartened by the lack of Mr. Nimbus this season.
>Rick says that Mr. Nimbus is his nemesis
>later in the very same season it turns out his nemesis was actually himself
0/10 no continuity literally unwatchable
Poor followup two much better episodes
>morty sound f-
https://voca.ro/1ciP3fGDN2C5
Why is Rick such a pussy this season? Is it just the new voice? He's really been neutered.
It can't just be the new voice. He's pretty clearly been pussified on a writing level, too. I actually kind of like it as a development, though obviously I hope it doesn't stick. Rick has gradually been softening for a while and this feels like an extreme exaggeration of that, like, this is the most pussified Rick can get. Something's gonna have to break bad.
Rick was at his most toxic and zany in Season 3 Episode 1 and this to me is supposed to be as far as he gets the other way. I think this is the calm before the storm where he goes for Rick Prime and some serious shit goes down and he pays a big price. On the other side of that we should be getting a new Rick that is less toxic but also fun again.
I feel bad for people who can’t have fun with something if it isn’t at its peak at all times. With the exception of maybe 2 episodes in the whole run I’ve consistently enjoyed R&M for what it is.
i dont like being given something and being told it's something else like i'm some kind of fool.
https://files.catbox.moe/oca3y3.wav
Roiland S7 e1 audio
Have you guys heard Cardoni's voice reel? It's fricking terrible.
https://resumes.actorsaccess.com/iancardoni
I'm so sick of Rick being fricking passive.
I feel the opposite. Thank GOD we’re finally getting away from Gary Stu Rick. I want him to find his footing again and be more fun but this is the right direction to get him there.
I like god mode bugs bunny Rick
Fair enough, but I hate it. Wrecked the show.
*Ricked the show
It's the whole draw of the fricking show. Him being better. Anyone who wants something more is a woman or doesn't get the show but are often both.
Do Rickgays really? Rick is wrong. Entertaining, but wrong.
Rick is the draw of the entire. fricking. show. He's funny, he's entertaining, his grandson is his foil. You can't just take him, neuter him down and injecting bullshit secondaries no one gives a frick about like Wong and MPBH when these episodes should be tailored around Rick AND MORTY. This show will suck dick as long as Rick can't be Rick.
Nope. Morty was the MC in the good seasons. S3E1 steered into Rick because he was the funniest (ala Randy Marsh) and that broke the show. If Rick is portrayed as philosophically correct, nothing matters and you’re just fricking around. Rick needed this growth a long time ago and this is a great sign that we’ll soon be going back to stories with stakes and pathos AND fun. Morty still has work to be done to repair their dynamic that was ruined by Rick-wank, but we’re getting there.
>nothing matters and you’re just fricking around.
Nothing has to matter. It's a fricking cartoon show. That had two decent episodes this season until it ran off the road with this horseshit. It might recover. But with shit like
>LE MR STABBY XDDD
It's gonna be lots of ups and downs until they hammer this shit out
>Nothing has to matter
We have a fundamental disagreement. The original seasons worked best because the balance of Rick’s power and Morty’s innocence. Without stakes you’re just going through the motions.
I'm convinced that Stabby was originally Roiland before the recasts.
I think he deserves far more credit than that
Compare him to Tag Man from the story train sequel. Stabby is remarkably similar, but if anything actually a bit conceptually cleverer
I thought this too, Kenny sounded lazy as shit in that recording.
>That had two decent episodes this season until it ran off the road with this horseshit.
If you think S7E1 was not the worst episode of the season so far then we can’t really agree on what it means to make a Rick and Morty episode.
I'm sorry for not clarifying in my anger. I believe the second episode is better than the first in every conceivable way. Mr. Poopy Butthole and cuckoldry and ZERO MORTY is not the way to open a season.
Well, we can at least find common ground there. As an olive branch, I do think the show can’t sustain character focus at the expense of humor for too much longer. Best case scenario is that the development this season leads to a better dynamic for Rick and Morty (the characters) moving forward.
Your civility is appreciated. I'm sorry for the hostility.
All the writers have to do is make Rick evil without actually taking his side. The idea that he needs to be a good guy just because he's a main character is ruining the show in my opinion because he was already far past the point of being forgivable even in Season 1, and also the writers don't know how to write serious plots.
Redeeming Rick and making Rick evil are both directions that could have worked. I personally want him redeemed because I just want stories about an awkward teen and his cooky grandpa going on mindbending adventures.
>virtually 0 RICK AND MORTY
Oh so that's why this season sucks episode for episode 2 because Jerry is always good.
It's a chick episode. No wonder there wasn't any jokes in it. 1/10
>Oh, shit. Shonda came to play.
>Shonda: Blah blah blackity blah. Hey y'all I speak ghetto on the air. Top urban hilarity.
I pulled out. Frick this episode.
Don't let Grace Freud frick anything else up.
I've got my tinfoil hat on. Now I'm thinking they did an episode about how Rick doesn't trust an ex to be malicious after a breakup because they're going to confirm Rick and RP had an affair before he killed his family.
This is an old theory, but a good one.
>but a good one.
No it isn't.
In the Bethcest episode Rick all but says he's had sex with other Ricks and considers it an especially terrible memory.
Wouldn’t be shocked. My guess is Rick is gonna get fricked trying to chase Rick Prime and his friends will come together to try and save him, only for some or all of them to die. Unity has the biggest death flags, but it could be a lot more. This is how Rick learns once and for all to admit the people he cares about matter and he’s been coping this whole time.
Rick will lose one person, but decide to stay in this specific universe for the sake of the rest. Rick needs to decide that he can’t run away from the universe anymore.
Rick cheating on Diane would be a pretty terrible twist, but it’s just the kind of shortsighted dramatic reveal the Harmon boys would do.
>cheating on
They swung with Nimbus.
He's such a bawd that it's impossible he didn't cheat on her at least once.
He was a good man then.
But not perfect.
Diane represents the small seed of good in Rick. I hope that doesn’t happen.
They already fricked Nimbus together. The degeneracy goes all the way back.
I don’t like it but I can accept that. Cheating is different.
If they had a threesome with Nimbus I see no reason to believe that Diane would have disapproved of Rick and Rick Prime fricking.
Eh, I don’t think that’s a completely logical jump to make.
Well maybe he fricked Rick Prime with her permission, if he ever fricked him at all. It would ratchet up the guilt complex he seems to have over it at least.
Where's the mega
Season 6 was about Rick’s relationship to the family and Season 7 is about Rick’s relationship to his friends. Rick’s relationship with Morty as a friend is next, then a big dramatic frick you.