The campaign claims to have sold to 6871 customers. Fair enough?
But if you look at the actual tiers, the lowest is 25-50$, which means at that price would've made 171,775$-343,550$. A third of what the campaign claims on their website.
So you can say, no big deal, some people would've had to order the higher tiers and variants, right? It's Eric's paypigs afterall. However that math doesn't work out either.
Even if all 6871 buyers purchased the 150$ tier for example, it would only add up to 1,030,650, 17K short of the total amount the campaign claimed to sell. This can be offset and work if among those 6871, there are those that bough additional merch and went past 150$, in theory. But that's a hypothetical that doesn't work with basic common sense, since it relies on the initial assumption every single purchaser in the entire campaign has spent more than 150$ on this shit.
So either Rippaverse fans are really insane and heavy buyers in a way that's statistically improbable, or Eric is just outright pulling these numbers from his ass and editing the website's numbers as he goes.
Right, I said that in the same post you quoted. > This can be offset and work if among those 6871, there are those that bough additional merch and went past 150$, in theory. But that's a hypothetical that doesn't work with basic common sense, since it relies on the initial assumption every single purchaser in the entire campaign has spent more than 150$ on this shit.
But when I say 'every single purchaser has to purchase 150$ for this tier to work', I mean it in a mathamatically indisputable way. For every single 'detractor' that skipped out on higher tiers or didn't paypig that hard, others will have had to purchase far past 150$+ to make up for it. The more that bought the lower tiers, the more that would've had to shill for the highest tiers.
>others will have had to purchase far past 150$+ to make up for it.
Right, and with an average spend of ~$152, that's not too far fetched.
I don't think you understand how whales and paypiggies work.
NTA but a single person buying multiple copies to sell on Ebay isn't out of the question...Or Comic Book shops for that matter.
BTW
$1,047,655 divided by 6884 equals $152 per purchase assuming my math is right.
>Right, and with an average spend of ~$152 >$1,047,655 divided by 6884 equals $152 per purchase assuming my math is right.
You think the average rippafat has spent 150$ on this shit? I can see SOME rich obsesso's, but every single customer of the entire campaign?
Yes, that's literally the majority of his supporters.
He literally been building a community of whales and anti-sjw for years now.
Say whatever you want about the guy but he was right about companies trying to appeal to people that wouldn't buy their products was stupid and that they should focus on the people that actually buy stuff.
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Anonymous
Whales are smart business. Same reason gacha games pander to them so hard.
One more kickstarter before I pass out from laughter.
Anon, most of his fanbase is dudes in their 30s, 40s, and 50s.
They actually have disposable income to spend, it's not like with stuff aimed at tweens where 99.99% of the audience doesn't even have $100 to their name.
If 50% of purcharers so far went for a lower 50$ tier (We're being generous and ignoring 25$ tier even exists) and 50$ of purchases went for the 150$ tier, the math would workout like this.
172950$ from the low-tier paypigs
518850$ from the high-tier paypigs
So 691800 total, or 300,000$ short of what the site is claiming right now.
And it's very improbable the 150$ tier was even 1/2th the total purchases. Let alone fricking 100% of customers. This is just some basic critical thinking here that the numbers don't add up.
>OH MY GOD! ETHAN VAN SCIVER IS INFLATING THE NUMBERS ON HIS INDIEGOGO
Seriously, this is fricking moronic. Just admit Rippa's Big Black Comic book kicked your ass and move on with your life.
Whales are smart business. Same reason gacha games pander to them so hard.
One more kickstarter before I pass out from laughter.
These campaigns have literally hundreds of people supporting thousands of dollars up. Normally you put a special 1K tier limited to 1-2 supporters who might bite.
These people aren't normal.
2 months ago
Anonymous
idpol grifting is rather lucrative
2 months ago
Anonymous
Who is the biggest grifter?
2 months ago
Anonymous
The lefty idpol grifters for sure. Right idpol grifters have their own little niche but it doesn't even compare.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know, Hassan and Vaush and the like may grift well but I don't think they surpass Trump as King Grifter.
2 months ago
Anonymous
This tbdesu. I watched a friend of mine get hooked on that and it was like watching someone empty their bank account for crack cocaine.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Proof?
Show me some kickstarters or leftie grifters comparable to Rippa.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Hasan piker owns an expensive ass car and a prime real estate LA Mansion just from streaming
Dumbass
2 months ago
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Most of them don't even need kickstarters, they have patreons where they get paid six figures to do essentially frick all.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Uhm, excuse you CHUD. He has to stream! And react to ben shapiro reacting to him!!!1! That's more stress than a 9-5 could ever be!!!
2 months ago
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That's not a grifter just because you don't like their job being commentary. A grifter would be someone like Anita Sarkeesian who got paid 160K to make 5-6 videos of her whining about videogames virtually in her garage with piss poor camerawork, i.e. a fraud or ripoff artist.
I don't like a hack like Ben Shapiro or Glen Beck but they're not grifters, just buttholes and make their performance their job.
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Meant for
>Hasan piker owns an expensive ass car and a prime real estate LA Mansion just from streaming
Dumbass
Most of them don't even need kickstarters, they have patreons where they get paid six figures to do essentially frick all.
>OH MY GOD! ETHAN VAN SCIVER IS INFLATING THE NUMBERS ON HIS INDIEGOGO
Seriously, this is fricking moronic. Just admit Rippa's Big Black Comic book kicked your ass and move on with your life.
Whales are smart business. Same reason gacha games pander to them so hard.
One more kickstarter before I pass out from laughter.
You're trying to compare independent 3rd party numbers from established comics/creators with a cult following to a literal-who that held a fundraiser on his own site and will handwave you as a hater if you ask him to prove that his numbers aren't made up.
Unironically have a nice day.
but even so the average each idiot paid here is $85.66 across the four variant covers, which is just ridiculous for any comic book in 2024, particularly one which is advertising its "live action trailer" with what looks like a dude in drag
also other anons are right, whales are morons and even if only one or two paid $1,000+ and say 100 paid $200+ that seriously skews the averages because of morons
It's not unrealistic to have heavy buyers as you say. Comicsgate backers are known for double sometimes triple backing tiers on campaigns, and they don't even receive their books lol
Comicsgate is dead and EVS killed it by being a lazy grifting homosexual we who is 3 years late on 6+ crowdfunding projects. It's obvious to everyone-uncle E spent the crowdfunding money and can't afford to fulfill his late campaigns. His seethe and cope streams about Eric July are truly pathetic to the point of lolcowism
>First Appearance of…
This doesn’t make any goddamn sense if it’s their first appearance and the comic isn’t even out yet why would anyone give a shit about those characters? It’d be like if the first issue of Spawn had “first appearance of Sam and Twitch!” plastered over the first print of the first issue. It’s moronic.
I'm surprised that Eric July isn't getting sued for this like he got sued by that church for using the name Isom. Yaira is the name of an established women's clothing company that makes sweaters and winter gear.
If the name is already associated with another established company, the company can still sue because it can cause brand confusion.
For example, Nike is the goddess of victory in Greek mythology, but if you created a product and called it Nike, you'd be at risk of being sued by the Nike shoe company.
This is why Young Brappa runs everything on his own site instead of any established crowdfunding site. Much easier for him to fudge numbers, exaggerate, or outright lie without a pesky third party there to deboonk him.
First issues sell, sales fall off for each subsequent issue. You want to keep the grift train rolling for as long as you can, just keep introducing new characters with new #1s. This also means that you don't need to develop any of them since you can just jangle a new set of keys in front of the toddlers instead.
Yeah, there's all kind of suspicious shit going on.
Like the fact he found only 12% more customers than Alphacore, but reached 52% higher revenue. So the additional 1/9ths add in customers added up to a third of his current sales.
It's not a crowdfund, it's a pre-order campaign with perks. It's a basic ass woocommerce site you could probably get into the wp-admin and brute force it if u really cared
E-celeb threads should still be punishable by death btw
Not really, it's a crowdfund meant to cover the costs of publishing the comic.
If it were purely a pre-campaign order than Eric would only print exactly the number of copies he need and never end up with warehouses of extras and end up wasting money.
yea, just as I expected. suprising the amount of people who just leave these things unprotected.
he does his own publishing no? from looking at the store page he still sells the comics after the campaign is up, so it stands to reason this is just for the inital boost in sales
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO You cannot possibly sell this many comic issues because... you just cannot okay! >THE WOKIES HAVE TO WIN!!!!
You can tell when he's got a campaign going on because suddenly there's 4 threads a day about him. It's the ONLY time anyone talks about Rippaverse which makes it obvious that this is advertising bait.
Remember that this is the homosexual creator that thinks "what did you like about his comic" is an offensive question.
>OH MY GOD! ETHAN VAN SCIVER IS INFLATING THE NUMBERS ON HIS INDIEGOGO
Seriously, this is fricking moronic. Just admit Rippa's Big Black Comic book kicked your ass and move on with your life.
>Cinemaphilemblr discovers the existence of whales and minnows
As a Cinemaphileirgin this is hilarious, it's like watching some moron discover that most spending on F2P games comes from like 2% of the population.
I liked Yaira's design but most of the other characters have really generic/forgettable designs and look like they should be henchmen for someone more important or background characters.
EVS has turned on Graham Nolan as everyone predicted. Shane is the next to get excommunicated and he knows it. The EVS cope streams have become unbearable recently but I love seeing the fat homosexual meltdown like this. Finish your late books homosexual.
Anyone else here find it really funny how late Vito is getting with his indiegogo campaign? I actually want Superkiller to succeed, but man the ride to maybe getting there is fricking hilarious.
>Rippa >ISOM >Yaira >Stephanya >Yanessa >Yantoni >Magus Nuummite!
Is this guy just completely unable to think of cool names? Why can he not tell how fricking lame all of these are? His naming sense is as bad as his character designs.
I am heartened by Cinemaphile's newfound interest in forensic accounting. But there's nothing unusual going on here. The Rippaverse is not selling a conventional mainstream product. Your assumptions about publishing economics and what his supporters get out of this do not apply. He's an E-celeb of sorts. Celebrity projects and their pricing are not constrained by the practical value they provide.
You should actually take some solace in this, in that nothing Rippa does is applicable to the wider comics industry.
Wait, you're telling me there's a chance the guy who built a career on lying and being 'economical with the truth' on his Youtube channel may be lying about other aspects of his business?
Rippaverse is legit. He has a big following, an agent, is good at logistics, and works for a media network blaze TV. EvS is the grifting scam tard who is 3 years late on several crowdfunders.
>say Isom #1 was a scam because the book took forever to come out and the only "proof" was a stock photo with a piss filter >Y-Y-Y-YOU CAN'T CALL IT A SCAM, THE SHITTY $50 GRAPHIC NOVEL CAME OUT! Y-Y-Y-Y-YOU'RE JUST SEETHING BECAUSE YOU'RE CinemaphileMBLR >point out that the Griftaverse is a grift >Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-YOU CAN'T POINT OUT THIS IS A GRFT! ONLY LEFTIES GRIFT!
It'd be nice if you butthurt shills could pick a fricking lane
dont care
The campaign claims to have sold to 6871 customers. Fair enough?
But if you look at the actual tiers, the lowest is 25-50$, which means at that price would've made 171,775$-343,550$. A third of what the campaign claims on their website.
So you can say, no big deal, some people would've had to order the higher tiers and variants, right? It's Eric's paypigs afterall. However that math doesn't work out either.
Even if all 6871 buyers purchased the 150$ tier for example, it would only add up to 1,030,650, 17K short of the total amount the campaign claimed to sell. This can be offset and work if among those 6871, there are those that bough additional merch and went past 150$, in theory. But that's a hypothetical that doesn't work with basic common sense, since it relies on the initial assumption every single purchaser in the entire campaign has spent more than 150$ on this shit.
So either Rippaverse fans are really insane and heavy buyers in a way that's statistically improbable, or Eric is just outright pulling these numbers from his ass and editing the website's numbers as he goes.
>Even if all 6871 buyers purchased the 150$ tier for example
Anon, there are multiple tiers going for $200+, including one for $1k.
Right, I said that in the same post you quoted.
> This can be offset and work if among those 6871, there are those that bough additional merch and went past 150$, in theory. But that's a hypothetical that doesn't work with basic common sense, since it relies on the initial assumption every single purchaser in the entire campaign has spent more than 150$ on this shit.
But when I say 'every single purchaser has to purchase 150$ for this tier to work', I mean it in a mathamatically indisputable way. For every single 'detractor' that skipped out on higher tiers or didn't paypig that hard, others will have had to purchase far past 150$+ to make up for it. The more that bought the lower tiers, the more that would've had to shill for the highest tiers.
Do these numbers seem sensible to you?
>others will have had to purchase far past 150$+ to make up for it.
Right, and with an average spend of ~$152, that's not too far fetched.
I don't think you understand how whales and paypiggies work.
>Right, and with an average spend of ~$152
>$1,047,655 divided by 6884 equals $152 per purchase assuming my math is right.
You think the average rippafat has spent 150$ on this shit? I can see SOME rich obsesso's, but every single customer of the entire campaign?
Yes, that's literally the majority of his supporters.
He literally been building a community of whales and anti-sjw for years now.
Say whatever you want about the guy but he was right about companies trying to appeal to people that wouldn't buy their products was stupid and that they should focus on the people that actually buy stuff.
Whales are smart business. Same reason gacha games pander to them so hard.
One more kickstarter before I pass out from laughter.
Anon, most of his fanbase is dudes in their 30s, 40s, and 50s.
They actually have disposable income to spend, it's not like with stuff aimed at tweens where 99.99% of the audience doesn't even have $100 to their name.
NTA but a single person buying multiple copies to sell on Ebay isn't out of the question...Or Comic Book shops for that matter.
BTW
$1,047,655 divided by 6884 equals $152 per purchase assuming my math is right.
Here's a better way to understand it.
If 50% of purcharers so far went for a lower 50$ tier (We're being generous and ignoring 25$ tier even exists) and 50$ of purchases went for the 150$ tier, the math would workout like this.
172950$ from the low-tier paypigs
518850$ from the high-tier paypigs
So 691800 total, or 300,000$ short of what the site is claiming right now.
And it's very improbable the 150$ tier was even 1/2th the total purchases. Let alone fricking 100% of customers. This is just some basic critical thinking here that the numbers don't add up.
Compared to other crowdfunders, they add up just fine to me.
It's quite fortunate that quickstarter lists the number of backers for each tier, and we can see there are away more tiers than just 4.
These campaigns have literally hundreds of people supporting thousands of dollars up. Normally you put a special 1K tier limited to 1-2 supporters who might bite.
These people aren't normal.
idpol grifting is rather lucrative
Who is the biggest grifter?
The lefty idpol grifters for sure. Right idpol grifters have their own little niche but it doesn't even compare.
I don't know, Hassan and Vaush and the like may grift well but I don't think they surpass Trump as King Grifter.
This tbdesu. I watched a friend of mine get hooked on that and it was like watching someone empty their bank account for crack cocaine.
Proof?
Show me some kickstarters or leftie grifters comparable to Rippa.
>Hasan piker owns an expensive ass car and a prime real estate LA Mansion just from streaming
Dumbass
Most of them don't even need kickstarters, they have patreons where they get paid six figures to do essentially frick all.
Uhm, excuse you CHUD. He has to stream! And react to ben shapiro reacting to him!!!1! That's more stress than a 9-5 could ever be!!!
That's not a grifter just because you don't like their job being commentary. A grifter would be someone like Anita Sarkeesian who got paid 160K to make 5-6 videos of her whining about videogames virtually in her garage with piss poor camerawork, i.e. a fraud or ripoff artist.
I don't like a hack like Ben Shapiro or Glen Beck but they're not grifters, just buttholes and make their performance their job.
Meant for
You're trying to compare independent 3rd party numbers from established comics/creators with a cult following to a literal-who that held a fundraiser on his own site and will handwave you as a hater if you ask him to prove that his numbers aren't made up.
Unironically have a nice day.
>50* of purchases went for the 150$ tier
You’re also allowed to make a custom pledge and donate more than requested
I love that this mid comic called EVS to mindbreak
it looks like customers =/= books sold
but even so the average each idiot paid here is $85.66 across the four variant covers, which is just ridiculous for any comic book in 2024, particularly one which is advertising its "live action trailer" with what looks like a dude in drag
also other anons are right, whales are morons and even if only one or two paid $1,000+ and say 100 paid $200+ that seriously skews the averages because of morons
It's not unrealistic to have heavy buyers as you say. Comicsgate backers are known for double sometimes triple backing tiers on campaigns, and they don't even receive their books lol
That's a lot of hardcore comic book collectors in general. They'll pay a lot of money for variant covers, etc. of the same book.
Comicsgate is dead and EVS killed it by being a lazy grifting homosexual we who is 3 years late on 6+ crowdfunding projects. It's obvious to everyone-uncle E spent the crowdfunding money and can't afford to fulfill his late campaigns. His seethe and cope streams about Eric July are truly pathetic to the point of lolcowism
People can buy more than one copy, right?
People are buying multiple copies to resell on eBay and other places.
Did Eric come up with these stupid names? Lmao
>First Appearance of…
This doesn’t make any goddamn sense if it’s their first appearance and the comic isn’t even out yet why would anyone give a shit about those characters? It’d be like if the first issue of Spawn had “first appearance of Sam and Twitch!” plastered over the first print of the first issue. It’s moronic.
>It's moronic
Welcome to spectators. They buy #1s in hopes its the next spidy and will fund their retirement.
I'm surprised that Eric July isn't getting sued for this like he got sued by that church for using the name Isom. Yaira is the name of an established women's clothing company that makes sweaters and winter gear.
It's also a given name (Hebrew, it means "to Shine), so he's in the clear.
If the name is already associated with another established company, the company can still sue because it can cause brand confusion.
For example, Nike is the goddess of victory in Greek mythology, but if you created a product and called it Nike, you'd be at risk of being sued by the Nike shoe company.
STOP MAKING FIRST ISSUE PROJECTS YOU FRICKING homosexual
FOCUS ON ONE SERIES ONLY OR ELSE NO ONE WILL TAKE homieVERSE SERIOUSLY
This is why Young Brappa runs everything on his own site instead of any established crowdfunding site. Much easier for him to fudge numbers, exaggerate, or outright lie without a pesky third party there to deboonk him.
First issues sell, sales fall off for each subsequent issue. You want to keep the grift train rolling for as long as you can, just keep introducing new characters with new #1s. This also means that you don't need to develop any of them since you can just jangle a new set of keys in front of the toddlers instead.
Yeah, there's all kind of suspicious shit going on.
Like the fact he found only 12% more customers than Alphacore, but reached 52% higher revenue. So the additional 1/9ths add in customers added up to a third of his current sales.
It's not a crowdfund, it's a pre-order campaign with perks. It's a basic ass woocommerce site you could probably get into the wp-admin and brute force it if u really cared
E-celeb threads should still be punishable by death btw
Not really, it's a crowdfund meant to cover the costs of publishing the comic.
If it were purely a pre-campaign order than Eric would only print exactly the number of copies he need and never end up with warehouses of extras and end up wasting money.
yea, just as I expected. suprising the amount of people who just leave these things unprotected.
he does his own publishing no? from looking at the store page he still sells the comics after the campaign is up, so it stands to reason this is just for the inital boost in sales
>implying anyone even unironically took it seriously
Anon, it's all been shitposting. Both pro and anti rip have been nothing but shitposts this whole time.
>Making up bullshit and lying to seem impressive is success
Griftigga please.
Dude, we get it. You hate successful black people because they prove they don't need your paternalistic bs
Seethe
From earlier in the campaign
>4862*150=729300
You can see a consistent pattern in the numbers not adding up.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO You cannot possibly sell this many comic issues because... you just cannot okay!
>THE WOKIES HAVE TO WIN!!!!
Go away Ethan. You fricked up when you didn't deliver your books on time. At least Zack admits he fricked up and is actively working to fix his shit.
Ethan can never recover from this pathetic seething 3 month mental breakdown he's still going through
How does the Rippaverse compare to Godslap?
As long as it makes EVS seethe I am fine with it. Fat homosexual streams 5 hours a day instead of delivering on years late projects.
Reminds me of this black guy i see at local cons who keeps shilling for this OC superhero hes got thats literally a orange tiger with dreads
You can tell when he's got a campaign going on because suddenly there's 4 threads a day about him. It's the ONLY time anyone talks about Rippaverse which makes it obvious that this is advertising bait.
Remember that this is the homosexual creator that thinks "what did you like about his comic" is an offensive question.
>OH MY GOD! ETHAN VAN SCIVER IS INFLATING THE NUMBERS ON HIS INDIEGOGO
Seriously, this is fricking moronic. Just admit Rippa's Big Black Comic book kicked your ass and move on with your life.
It's so funny that all the heroines in the Rippaverse look exactly like the heroines and villains in the MSHEU
>Cinemaphilemblr discovers the existence of whales and minnows
As a Cinemaphileirgin this is hilarious, it's like watching some moron discover that most spending on F2P games comes from like 2% of the population.
So are the comics done now or what?
Get a grip
You're seething in jealousy for someone who claims to be so humble pieman
>Black personverse
the weird hatred against him is just weird, just ignore him
Az is going to be so heartbroken when Eric inevitably ditches him for someone with a larger channel.
Everyone's talking about the comics when the real deals are in the addons.
The characters in this universe have such unbelievably ugly designs.
I liked Yaira's design but most of the other characters have really generic/forgettable designs and look like they should be henchmen for someone more important or background characters.
Interesting how these are all bumps from page 10.
I probably should have saged honestly,
was me
EVS needs to get his shit out, but these rippaverse comics are pure ass.
He needs to get over all this shit first. b***hing about Rippaverse all the time, is just sad.
Gonna suck when the IRS man get conflicting numbers.
EVS has turned on Graham Nolan as everyone predicted. Shane is the next to get excommunicated and he knows it. The EVS cope streams have become unbearable recently but I love seeing the fat homosexual meltdown like this. Finish your late books homosexual.
Anyone else here find it really funny how late Vito is getting with his indiegogo campaign? I actually want Superkiller to succeed, but man the ride to maybe getting there is fricking hilarious.
Glen Beck's The Blaze is moneyhatting the project. Everyone knows that.
>Rippa
>ISOM
>Yaira
>Stephanya
>Yanessa
>Yantoni
>Magus Nuummite!
Is this guy just completely unable to think of cool names? Why can he not tell how fricking lame all of these are? His naming sense is as bad as his character designs.
I am heartened by Cinemaphile's newfound interest in forensic accounting. But there's nothing unusual going on here. The Rippaverse is not selling a conventional mainstream product. Your assumptions about publishing economics and what his supporters get out of this do not apply. He's an E-celeb of sorts. Celebrity projects and their pricing are not constrained by the practical value they provide.
You should actually take some solace in this, in that nothing Rippa does is applicable to the wider comics industry.
Wait, you're telling me there's a chance the guy who built a career on lying and being 'economical with the truth' on his Youtube channel may be lying about other aspects of his business?
Well I for one am just plain stunned!
Rippaverse is legit. He has a big following, an agent, is good at logistics, and works for a media network blaze TV. EvS is the grifting scam tard who is 3 years late on several crowdfunders.
Cope
Who cares?
Everyone knows you're a woke comic shill shroommeister. You don't have to keep telling everyone
>say Isom #1 was a scam because the book took forever to come out and the only "proof" was a stock photo with a piss filter
>Y-Y-Y-YOU CAN'T CALL IT A SCAM, THE SHITTY $50 GRAPHIC NOVEL CAME OUT! Y-Y-Y-Y-YOU'RE JUST SEETHING BECAUSE YOU'RE CinemaphileMBLR
>point out that the Griftaverse is a grift
>Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-YOU CAN'T POINT OUT THIS IS A GRFT! ONLY LEFTIES GRIFT!
It'd be nice if you butthurt shills could pick a fricking lane
>YOU CAN'T POINT OUT THIS IS A GRFT! ONLY LEFTIES GRIFT
Said no one in the thread. Also it's spelt "grift" esl-kun
Oh, these are back again?
https://bingobaker.com/#651ec4c60947fe51