The black culture in an inherently selfish one. "Imma get mine and frick you if you get in your way." That's why Black sounds are mostly violent or showing off their wealth. They have killed their own for a second hand TV at a pawn shop not so long ago so they value other human live as little as they value their own.
Have you read a single history book anon? The entirety of Africa's history, even before the white man came, was nonstop killing and fighting and trying to establish empires.
Rwanda, Darfur, Burudni, the Igbo, the Isaaq. Africans love murdering each other en masse.
That's not what I understood from the scene or that story beat. What I understood was that Miguel had no real PROOF that the "Spider-Man event" had to occur, it was purely his own hypothesis without any attempting at changing things. >but Indian Spider-Man's reality got crushed
Yes but did they try anything different? Was it because the police chief didn't die or some other reason? That was the whole point.
He knows that at least two universes have been damaged from interfering with canon events (the one where he replaced himself and Indian Spider-Man's) and implies that there are others that they failed to rescue in time. It might not be causality, but how many holes do you need to see get ripped into reality before you just decide that, even if you don't know what exactly causes it, it's better to ere on the side of caution and not interfere.
Miguel's real blunder was introducing so many people to the Spider-Society, Miles included. Just knowing about canon events must cause so much interference in them. The information leaks must be insane. If he had just sent Miles home after the events in Mumbai, none of the movie's plot would have happened. But you are right in that, under his own logic, there was no reason for his replacement universe to collapse, since it has no canon events.
additionally Miguel would have had to prove to all the other Spiders that this was true and there are likely other Spiders this happened to thay can cooroborate the statement about universes collapsing
to say otherwise just means all the spiders are dumb followers
all they know is that every Spider has similar events in their lives. It's only Miguel's assumption that those events NOT occurring leads to a catastrophic breakdown of reality, based on one or two data points
Hell, if a story like this was written a couple of centuries ago it'd be taught in schools as an example of the indomitable human spirit. If a story like this was written in the Silver Age it'd be considered a classic. The hero literally has the whole world and fate itself against him, and yet he still refuses to back down because sacrificing people's lives is wrong and he won't stand for anything else.
That's actually fricking stupid, and I don't blame Marvel for not stopping the premise behind OMD just because some writer thought he was being clever.
miles is the antagonist in this story so far
his actions are the ones putting people in danger, the other spiders are literally trying to hold the universe together
I frankly don't care for the entire plot being centered around Miles trying to save his dad being a bad thing. Like it's absolute nonsense to pretend any other Spider-Man wouldn't move heaven and Earth to try to save Aunt May or Uncle Ben if given the chance.
>Man you people are gonna look moronic when it turns out 2099 is just wrong in the next movie
only people that are gonna look moronic will be the movie and the fanboys that would ate it up because miguel being "just wrong" would be the most boring, predictable and safe outcome, the way there's so many people already assuming it says how dull and poorly written that would be
>it's really the Spot that's the real threat
isn't that obvious?? like people seriously believe miguel is just going to forget about the spot to keep chasing miles? are they stupid?
>the way there's so many people already assuming it says how dull and poorly written that would be
Yeah, truth be told, it feels like they’re gonna pull a big fricking twist with regards with the canon events conflict which I kind of hope for. I feel like everyone is jumping to conclusions that Mumbhatten is done for because Singh didn’t die, but Miguel also is not lying bout the universe he tried to replace himself disappearing because I think the universes are meant to represent comic runs, and no Spidey means no comic storyline. Miguel emphasized he was trying to just be himself as a dad and not Spider-Man, after all. This is just my gay theorizing, though
The reason the universes get destroyed is because of incursions. The MCU is part of the Spider-Verse, remember? Miguel left his universe and went to a different one, causing it to collapse.
People have been saying shit like >Miguel is lying or wrong
But nobody but Miguel (and the writers) would know that.
So if it's true, then Miles dooms his universe, if not the entire spiderverse. If it isn't true, then I guess he saves his dad and no foul. But given all the info the characters know, then it's pretty bad reasoning.
Wouldn't his dad be gone no matter what? Saving him would cause his universe to crumble right?
you expect a missing frontal lobe to think about anything but itself and the present?
Why think about tomorrow when in the future you won't exist?
The black culture in an inherently selfish one. "Imma get mine and frick you if you get in your way." That's why Black sounds are mostly violent or showing off their wealth. They have killed their own for a second hand TV at a pawn shop not so long ago so they value other human live as little as they value their own.
You’re moronic. Africans are collectivist. Like Asians.
Only whites and their Europeanized minorities think they’re the center of the universe instead of a community.
>black culture revisionist
yeah tell that to the future scholars who started a riot over ps5s
Yes. Western individualism is a problem. I agree.
Asia and Africa are overwhelmingly collectivist. The individual matters less than the family, clan, tribe, ethnicity, or nation.
Have you read a single history book anon? The entirety of Africa's history, even before the white man came, was nonstop killing and fighting and trying to establish empires.
Rwanda, Darfur, Burudni, the Igbo, the Isaaq. Africans love murdering each other en masse.
>lists things that happened after the white man came
That’s all of human history. So what?
Those are black Americans, completely different races.
Africa is one united society
>The black culture in an inherently selfish one. "Imma get mine and frick you if you get in your way."
Hey, they learned from the best.
That's not what I understood from the scene or that story beat. What I understood was that Miguel had no real PROOF that the "Spider-Man event" had to occur, it was purely his own hypothesis without any attempting at changing things.
>but Indian Spider-Man's reality got crushed
Yes but did they try anything different? Was it because the police chief didn't die or some other reason? That was the whole point.
Anon, it's a shitpost thread. Actually thinking about and analyzing the scene is not why it exists. You should know this.
He had proof.
He tried it and a universe was destroyed because of his actions.
Did you watch the movie?
>forms a theory on a single data point
Damn no wonder this dude stupid, he's dumb.
>no no no we need to destroy a few more universes first just to be sure
He knows that at least two universes have been damaged from interfering with canon events (the one where he replaced himself and Indian Spider-Man's) and implies that there are others that they failed to rescue in time. It might not be causality, but how many holes do you need to see get ripped into reality before you just decide that, even if you don't know what exactly causes it, it's better to ere on the side of caution and not interfere.
Miguel's real blunder was introducing so many people to the Spider-Society, Miles included. Just knowing about canon events must cause so much interference in them. The information leaks must be insane. If he had just sent Miles home after the events in Mumbai, none of the movie's plot would have happened.
But you are right in that, under his own logic, there was no reason for his replacement universe to collapse, since it has no canon events.
additionally Miguel would have had to prove to all the other Spiders that this was true and there are likely other Spiders this happened to thay can cooroborate the statement about universes collapsing
to say otherwise just means all the spiders are dumb followers
all they know is that every Spider has similar events in their lives. It's only Miguel's assumption that those events NOT occurring leads to a catastrophic breakdown of reality, based on one or two data points
but his universe hasn't been destroyed yet
>IMMA DO MAH OWN THANG
Fricking this shitty ass movie and the pastel-haired fatties that like it.
sounds like Spider-Man to me
If Peter did it you'd be calling it heroic.
Hell, if a story like this was written a couple of centuries ago it'd be taught in schools as an example of the indomitable human spirit. If a story like this was written in the Silver Age it'd be considered a classic. The hero literally has the whole world and fate itself against him, and yet he still refuses to back down because sacrificing people's lives is wrong and he won't stand for anything else.
yes but have you considered that popular thing bad
>If Peter did it you'd be calling it heroic.
No.
"GOT MINE, FRICK THE REST!" is what morons think. Peter would never sacrifice billions for a chance to save Aunt May or Uncle Ben.
Peter literally sacrificed his unborn child to save Aunt May
>one baby that could potentially grow up to be a supervillan vs your mother figure
Peter wouldn't stand by and do nothing when an innocent person is about to die either.
OMD did exactly this. Fricking GOD told him not to make the deal because it would have terrible consequences and that didn't stop him.
That's actually fricking stupid, and I don't blame Marvel for not stopping the premise behind OMD just because some writer thought he was being clever.
literally every writer thought it was moronic but editorial pushed ahead anyway because they hated the idea of Spider-Man being married
Why are you copying your own comment? Just write it again you lazy frick.
But anon, he’s black.
So how are people gonna react when canon turns out to be total bullshit and miguel did all this for not?
Just more bullshit to push the narrative that Miles is the best Spider-man.
The exact same way they'd react if the opposite turns out to be true.
Sexo con Miguel
Ok what about a smaller example. Would you sacrifice you loved ones to save the entire Titanic or stop a terrorist from from blowing up a building
>frick y'all traumas i want to live a happily ever after life with my two parents and this girl who has a life in another dimension
>miles you have to kill your dad by inaction
>no lmao
>REEEEEEE FRICK YOU SPIDER Black person
Man you people are gonna look moronic when it turns out 2099 is just wrong in the next movie and it's really the Spot that's the real threat
it's pretty fricking obvious Miguel will be wrong, any superhero writer with sense doesn't write actual impossible choices like that
Does it matter? Miguel can't possible know that, Miles can't possibly know that, both of them are making their choices based on what they know so far.
it doesn't matter, but howling about how Miles is actually a terrible person for trying to save his dad is silly
miles is the antagonist in this story so far
his actions are the ones putting people in danger, the other spiders are literally trying to hold the universe together
I frankly don't care for the entire plot being centered around Miles trying to save his dad being a bad thing. Like it's absolute nonsense to pretend any other Spider-Man wouldn't move heaven and Earth to try to save Aunt May or Uncle Ben if given the chance.
>Man you people are gonna look moronic when it turns out 2099 is just wrong in the next movie
only people that are gonna look moronic will be the movie and the fanboys that would ate it up because miguel being "just wrong" would be the most boring, predictable and safe outcome, the way there's so many people already assuming it says how dull and poorly written that would be
>it's really the Spot that's the real threat
isn't that obvious?? like people seriously believe miguel is just going to forget about the spot to keep chasing miles? are they stupid?
>the way there's so many people already assuming it says how dull and poorly written that would be
Yeah, truth be told, it feels like they’re gonna pull a big fricking twist with regards with the canon events conflict which I kind of hope for. I feel like everyone is jumping to conclusions that Mumbhatten is done for because Singh didn’t die, but Miguel also is not lying bout the universe he tried to replace himself disappearing because I think the universes are meant to represent comic runs, and no Spidey means no comic storyline. Miguel emphasized he was trying to just be himself as a dad and not Spider-Man, after all. This is just my gay theorizing, though
The reason the universes get destroyed is because of incursions. The MCU is part of the Spider-Verse, remember? Miguel left his universe and went to a different one, causing it to collapse.
>allows his last living family member to die so he can save strangers
People have been saying shit like
>Miguel is lying or wrong
But nobody but Miguel (and the writers) would know that.
So if it's true, then Miles dooms his universe, if not the entire spiderverse. If it isn't true, then I guess he saves his dad and no foul. But given all the info the characters know, then it's pretty bad reasoning.