>Rob Reiner is a fat bourgeois hypocrite so that means smoking is magically good and that tobacco companies are empathetic and heroic
>Rob Reiner is a fat bourgeois hypocrite so that means smoking is magically good and that tobacco companies are empathetic and heroic
>Kathleen Kennedy is a flawed but well-intentioned human whom Cartman of all people learns to forgive and even befriends
>George Lucas is a complete monster whose incarceration is celebrated the town over
The differences of being bothered at something vs seeing yourself as above it I guess.
I think it's bad when they don't parody you to the point of caricature. They're saying that KK could be good, but she chooses not to because she pursued a path of shit, and that must sting more than just be made cartoonishly evil.
I feel like being befriended by Cartman is the worst thing South Park can say about a person.
Why are they like this?
They are contrarians.
A ton of people confuse smugly pointing out hypocrisy for an actual argument.
>Nooooo you can't just smoke cigarettes don't you know they'll kill you? You can't do things that are bad for your health because... Because... I SAID SO, OK! JUST BECAUSE! You aren't allowed to have fun! You aren't allowed to enjoy life! I want you to live to be a crippled and miserable old sack who'll be stuck in a bed until you die at 101 years old, with the last 60 years of your life being nothing but a miserable existence!
But they sold it to us companies as wearing to protect people at the cost of putting themselves in danger which they clearly do not do in real life and so the anti-smoking people as willing to kill someone for propaganda purposes I'm pretty certain no such incidents has been seen in real life of that being done by anti-smoker. And a constantly sold that fat guy in charge of the anti-smoking group as being. not just normal fat but extra fat where he's has a very bad cough to emphasize how unhealthy he is. Not to mention yet people who have healthier habits and instead of unhealthy habits are more capable in their old age and most people aren't wanting to die by the age of their 40s.
Don't care, people should still be able to smoke
I'm not saying it should be against the law but they went out of the way to make the smoking people look a lot better than the anti-smoking people.
Because the smoking people are capable of minding their own business. The anti-smoking people are pushy, nosy, "my way or the highway" morons.
>they went out of their way to make people who can't mind their own god damned business and leave people the frick alone look bad!
look at this blacklung and laugh
that really was one of old south park's few misses.
you'd think their "hasn't evolution been kinda proven at this point?" attitudes would extend to the dangers of smoking, but whatever.
It was still a good show for many, many years. it has thoroughly lost its way now, but...
it seems they have a blind spot for false flag operations. they didn't pick up on the left installing trump, and they didn't pick up on the "anti-smoking" movement being 100% funded by the tobacco companies. They only picked up on the fact that anti-smoking stuff makes you want to smoke. Like no shit, that's what made my sister start.
samegay
>it seems they have a blind spot for false flag operations. they didn't pick up on the left installing trump,
What?
Shhhh. Just watch the schizo drop his spaghetti.
>you'd think their "hasn't evolution been kinda proven at this point?" attitudes would extend to the dangers of smoking, but whatever.
They never say that smoking isn't harmful though. They just say that you should mind your own fricking business. If a person wants to smoke, leave them the frick alone. If a business wants to allow people to smoke on its premises, leave it the frick alone.
The issue is that it fricking isn't their business, it makes life worse for me too.
How does me smoking make your life worse?
Secondhand lung cancer?
So don't go in businesses where smoking is allowed.
what about people smoking on the sidewalk outside of businesses.
what about situations where smokers and non-smokers have to congregate.
what about people who ignore the rules and choose to smoke wherever.
>what about people smoking on the sidewalk outside of businesses.
>what about situations where smokers and non-smokers have to congregate.
I don't like hearing babies cry what's your point, the outside world has people who do things
>what about people who ignore the rules and choose to smoke wherever.
what about murderers who shoot people, what's your point?
do you think people get lung cancer from crying babies
>what about people smoking on the sidewalk outside of businesses.
just deal with it? do you b***h every time a car drives by because of the exhaust?
>what about situations where smokers and non-smokers have to congregate.
again, deal with it.
>what about people who ignore the rules and choose to smoke wherever.
let's ban alcohol because some people might ignore the rules and choose to drink wherever! let's ban driving because some people don't follow traffic rules!
what a dumb fricking argument.
Have you ever considered just not fricking going into bars that allow smoking if you hate it? You know, like a sane human being?
I believe they said that their general stance is that they don't like moralizers who tell other people what to do.
Most episodes of their show end with a moralizing speech that tells people what to do.
I know you didn't miss the part of the song where the cigar factory workers straight up say smoking will make you die way sooner
But seriously who wants to be 90?
It's more of a straight reversal on them for laughs then anything serious.
Yeah, I think so.
>lots of slaves were imported to grow tobacco
>Wow, so many of our friends like Token wouldn't be here without tobacco!
I don't believe they would seriously defend something on the basis that it led to more slavery. I can only interpret the episode through some heavy self aware irony.
This was in the middle of the truth.com bombardment too though, a group that was over the top and over the head about it. I think Matt and Trey found annoyance with that type of heady preaching.
>The Iraq War was justified, people who are against it are just a bunch of pussies
That one didn't age well.
think the message of the episode was don't screw up everything you know because you don't agree with someone over the Iraq War it did so both sides being ridiculous equally in what they would do in like dividing the town.
which episode was that?
I was actually thinking about Team America World Police, I should have specified.
People actually have a victim complex about smoking? Jesus christ you fricking gay how about you drink 30 gallons of cum while you're at it, gaywad.
Chill smokers acknowledge they're addicts but don't care and generally avoid bothering non-smokers.
homosexual smokers throw a b***h fit if you don't pretend they aren't basically the same as heroin addict, except they smell worse
>The healthiest anti-smoker
It may not be healthy but dammit McDonalds some of the best fries.
I like to think that one of them was a smoker and was mad about the anti-smoking sentiment at the time, because to claim that second hand smoke causing cancer as fake and that smoking companies were innocent victims was crazy.
The effects of Second Hand smoke are greatly exaggerated
Proof?
Trey Parker said so.
You know, some people say there's no proof that second-hand smoke kills. The tobacco companies say there's no proof that second-hand smoke kills. I've just been diagnosed with terminal lung cancer. I guess... I'm the proof. The next time you want to believe that second-hand smoke doesn't kill, think about me. Because, by the time you read this post I'll be... dead.
I mean smoking literally requires you to suck on a gay, so being a little fruity is a bit of a requirement.
An easy "take a normal stance and reverse it" gag is still causing seethe over 20 years later.
You're looking a bit too far into
>The people who complain the loudest about shit are usually huge homosexuals
I'm pretty the creators have both said multiple times they prefer taking the harder to defend stance for entertainments sake. It's funnier to write an episode about how smoking isn't that bad.
>I'm pretty the creators have both said multiple times they prefer taking the harder to defend stance for entertainments sake.
You mean harder to defend because it is wrong rather than harder to defend because it goes against their paymasters? Because their idea of criticizing the government on COVID was saying that they weren't tyrannical enough.
That is fricking cope.
South Park is responsible for the alt right and unironically ruined a generation of Americans -
Interesting take, have you considered suicide?
>South Park is responsible for the alt right and unironically ruined a generation of Americans -
How?
It's about not being a douchebag. Being a douchebag will make people do things to spite that person.
>My goo!
>My precious goo!
Remember when they made an episode all about big companies destroying mom an pop buissness and how actually it's great?
i legit wouldn't care if Smokers didn't get more fricking breaks at work
Yes, meathead. I smoke 10 cigars a day
You don't inhale cigars, dipshit, they're not a 1-to-1 to cigarettes
I'm just tired of the philosophy that wanting any form of change is dumb.
> "You want X? BUT YOU Y! Checkmate ;)"
Sorta hard to see them as these deep-thinkers when its just topics that boil down to facebook fodder