Jesse James was undoubtedly an evil man but Bob's biggest flaw was once he realised he couldn't be Jesse James's best buddy he became imbittered at the supposed rejection, not realising James was just a user by nature and didn't much care for anyone else. So instead, out of a jealous rage he decided to kill Jesse and present himself as a hero, a man akin to Jesse James's legendary status, not realising that no one actually respected him and his legacy would forever be known as Bob the coward. Ultimately, he was a clown.
i fricking love the ending to this movie so much and remember every line from it
i genuinely think a study of robert ford after the assassination would have been better than the rest of the movie, as the jesse parts weren't terribly interesting and affleck's impeccable acting carried the movie while pitt's brought it down
>the best movie soundtrack of all time
If you haven't already, I highly recommend you listen to some of the other soundtracks done by the same duo. They did the soundtrack for The Road which is also excellent and similar in tone.
Post the full version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4jC5FZPSX0 >You know what I expected? Applause. I was only 20 year old then, I couldn't see how it looked to people. I was surprised by what happened. They didn't applaud.
i find it amusign that ryan gosling is /ourguy/ when affleck's performance both in assassination and manchester is much more Cinemaphile than anything gosling's ever made
both he and his brother get way too much shit, they're great, though casey is far better
his scenes in these two movies are some of the best dramatic performances i've ever seen
Me too. But unironically. I remember sniveling up to a higher up just the way Bob did at the beginning to Frank James. Talking about how much more capable I am than I look. How I imitated the mannerisms of people I admired to the most miniscule detail. How I boasted about things at an awkward timing. And how enraged I would become if anybody would step on my foot. Even in obvious jest. How I was never capable of a regular life simply by the fact how disturbingly insecure I was. My conversations with woman only reached a sympathetic depth only with prostitutes. Although it was probably just pity. But maybe not. Two broken people can't love each other truly for a long run. But at least they understand what it means to be broken.
I truly understood how similar I am to him when I watched the movie with other people. And how much more sympathy I had for the guy than anybody else. So I do believe that Bob Ford is /ourguy/ truly
>Robert Ford did nothing wrong.
he did many things wrong, but he did a lot less wrong than jesse did
ford was a neglected impressionable kid trying to get more out of life
>He was ashamed of his posting, his pretensions of taste and basedness; he was sorry about his lifelessness, his autism, his inability to express what he now believed was the case - that he truly regretted provoking janny, that he missed Moot as much as anybody and wished his departure hadn't been necessary. Even as he refreshed the catalog on the imageboard, he knew that other anons avoided his bait threads whenever he started them. He received so few replies that he reacted to each unanswered post with no emotion except curiosity. He kept to his basement all day flipping over image folders, looking at his destiny in every sneed, and chuck.
>The janitor came up from Cinemaphile at 1PM on the 8th. He had no grand scheme, no paycheck, no agreement with higher moderators. Nothing but a vague longing for hotpockets, and a generalized wish to do it for free. Janny would be ordered to explain his banning of the thread after complaints in the feedback section, but after only five seconds of rumination the moderators would pardon the janitor.
>There would be no eulogies for OP, no one would see his thread get deleted, no anons would complain to Hiro about him being banned, no shitposts would be written about him, no screencaps taken of him, no one would ever open up the archive to browse the threads he posted in. His IP address would get permabanned, and his router would reset - but OP would only sit on his chair and look at his thread, the page being deleted right before his eyes before he could finish his next post.
>mass murdering criminal is glorified for no reason
seems the general public was already moronic at the time. baffling premise to a story. an illustration of the sheer stupidity of the average person.
>seems the general public was already moronic at the time. baffling premise to a story.
it's.. literally reality anon
jesse james was in fact glorified because the south still hated the new country and rooted for whoever would steal from the banks
it was the equivalent of being a superstar football player at the time
how close is book/movie jesse to real life jesse?
because from the little i read it's not very close at all and real life jesse was more of a moronic psycho
I know, I'm aware it's based off real events, I'm saying it's baffling that it's real, that people were so stupid that they glorified him and reviled his killer
>seems the general public was already moronic at the time. baffling premise to a story.
it's.. literally reality anon
jesse james was in fact glorified because the south still hated the new country and rooted for whoever would steal from the banks
it was the equivalent of being a superstar football player at the time
Jesse James was pretty much America's first celebrity. The pulp novel was coming into its own, and the guy was getting fanfiction written about him and published.
James wanted to die and specifically selected Ford as the person to kill him. He chose the exact time and place of his own death, gave his killer the weapon, disarmed himself and turned his back. During the process of grooming/manipulating the person to assist him in this assisted suicide, he couldn't quite hide his contempt for their transparent schemes and fearful hesitation.
You know I thought about it as well. How much of a poetic genius one has to be. He even gifted him a new shiny six-shooter to do it to. I think i rarely heard of a more poetic suicide.
>idolises murderous criminal and joins his gang >sees that his charisma is a facade >grows to resent and envy him >covets his infamy out of jealousy >can't let it go, long after it's all over and the criminal has moved on >goes and murders him >normies see him as a dirty underhanded coward and continue to idolise the charismatic outlaw
Seems right tbqh
If you murder a murderer the number of murderers stay exactly the same before you committed the murder.
Bob should've contacted a social worker to talk with Jesse James
Yeah he did, he bragged about shooting a man in the back. It's one thing to do it, it's another to brag about it.
He just did what he thought everyone wanted him to do
That's all I do too, and it really hasn't worked out so far
Didn't work out too well for Robert Ford either.
Jesse James was undoubtedly an evil man but Bob's biggest flaw was once he realised he couldn't be Jesse James's best buddy he became imbittered at the supposed rejection, not realising James was just a user by nature and didn't much care for anyone else. So instead, out of a jealous rage he decided to kill Jesse and present himself as a hero, a man akin to Jesse James's legendary status, not realising that no one actually respected him and his legacy would forever be known as Bob the coward. Ultimately, he was a clown.
Sounds like a coward to me
Was Jesse James really that liked by the American folk?
Moreso than other outlaws at least. People saw Jesse James as more of a Robin Hood figure
i fricking love the ending to this movie so much and remember every line from it
i genuinely think a study of robert ford after the assassination would have been better than the rest of the movie, as the jesse parts weren't terribly interesting and affleck's impeccable acting carried the movie while pitt's brought it down
Honestly best ending to a movie ever and the best movie soundtrack of all time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CpOQxA0gJ4
the only track that ever hit me as hard was mahler's adagietto used in death in venice
if you haven't seen that movie i strongly recommend it
From which year?
71
>the best movie soundtrack of all time
If you haven't already, I highly recommend you listen to some of the other soundtracks done by the same duo. They did the soundtrack for The Road which is also excellent and similar in tone.
Post the full version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4jC5FZPSX0
>You know what I expected? Applause. I was only 20 year old then, I couldn't see how it looked to people. I was surprised by what happened. They didn't applaud.
i find it amusign that ryan gosling is /ourguy/ when affleck's performance both in assassination and manchester is much more Cinemaphile than anything gosling's ever made
both he and his brother get way too much shit, they're great, though casey is far better
his scenes in these two movies are some of the best dramatic performances i've ever seen
Me too. But unironically. I remember sniveling up to a higher up just the way Bob did at the beginning to Frank James. Talking about how much more capable I am than I look. How I imitated the mannerisms of people I admired to the most miniscule detail. How I boasted about things at an awkward timing. And how enraged I would become if anybody would step on my foot. Even in obvious jest. How I was never capable of a regular life simply by the fact how disturbingly insecure I was. My conversations with woman only reached a sympathetic depth only with prostitutes. Although it was probably just pity. But maybe not. Two broken people can't love each other truly for a long run. But at least they understand what it means to be broken.
I truly understood how similar I am to him when I watched the movie with other people. And how much more sympathy I had for the guy than anybody else. So I do believe that Bob Ford is /ourguy/ truly
Charisma is the most OP and bullshit statistic.
Hang in there Ford-kun
>Robert Ford did nothing wrong.
he did many things wrong, but he did a lot less wrong than jesse did
ford was a neglected impressionable kid trying to get more out of life
>He was ashamed of his posting, his pretensions of taste and basedness; he was sorry about his lifelessness, his autism, his inability to express what he now believed was the case - that he truly regretted provoking janny, that he missed Moot as much as anybody and wished his departure hadn't been necessary. Even as he refreshed the catalog on the imageboard, he knew that other anons avoided his bait threads whenever he started them. He received so few replies that he reacted to each unanswered post with no emotion except curiosity. He kept to his basement all day flipping over image folders, looking at his destiny in every sneed, and chuck.
>The janitor came up from Cinemaphile at 1PM on the 8th. He had no grand scheme, no paycheck, no agreement with higher moderators. Nothing but a vague longing for hotpockets, and a generalized wish to do it for free. Janny would be ordered to explain his banning of the thread after complaints in the feedback section, but after only five seconds of rumination the moderators would pardon the janitor.
>There would be no eulogies for OP, no one would see his thread get deleted, no anons would complain to Hiro about him being banned, no shitposts would be written about him, no screencaps taken of him, no one would ever open up the archive to browse the threads he posted in. His IP address would get permabanned, and his router would reset - but OP would only sit on his chair and look at his thread, the page being deleted right before his eyes before he could finish his next post.
Don't that pasta look dusty
there would be (you)logies for OP
i am literally bob
>mass murdering criminal is glorified for no reason
seems the general public was already moronic at the time. baffling premise to a story. an illustration of the sheer stupidity of the average person.
>seems the general public was already moronic at the time. baffling premise to a story.
it's.. literally reality anon
jesse james was in fact glorified because the south still hated the new country and rooted for whoever would steal from the banks
it was the equivalent of being a superstar football player at the time
how close is book/movie jesse to real life jesse?
because from the little i read it's not very close at all and real life jesse was more of a moronic psycho
afaik everything is accounts of accounts, so the real truth is muddy
he fought in the civil war, jesse?
I know, I'm aware it's based off real events, I'm saying it's baffling that it's real, that people were so stupid that they glorified him and reviled his killer
Jesse James was pretty much America's first celebrity. The pulp novel was coming into its own, and the guy was getting fanfiction written about him and published.
James wanted to die and specifically selected Ford as the person to kill him. He chose the exact time and place of his own death, gave his killer the weapon, disarmed himself and turned his back. During the process of grooming/manipulating the person to assist him in this assisted suicide, he couldn't quite hide his contempt for their transparent schemes and fearful hesitation.
You know I thought about it as well. How much of a poetic genius one has to be. He even gifted him a new shiny six-shooter to do it to. I think i rarely heard of a more poetic suicide.
>idolises murderous criminal and joins his gang
>sees that his charisma is a facade
>grows to resent and envy him
>covets his infamy out of jealousy
>can't let it go, long after it's all over and the criminal has moved on
>goes and murders him
>normies see him as a dirty underhanded coward and continue to idolise the charismatic outlaw
Seems right tbqh
Jesse deserved it
Jesse deserved to die, but not at the hands of that coward.
That coward Ford, I can't even say his name.
the only bad thing he did was not casting the revive spell on Jesse and shooting him again
If you murder a murderer the number of murderers stay exactly the same before you committed the murder.
Bob should've contacted a social worker to talk with Jesse James
Shit and boring movie tbh
Poetry don't work on prostitutes
Didn't need the Dick Little fricking Hawkeye's stepmom subplot
The assassination of Jesse James by the peerless hero Robert Ford