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I noticed that with emoji too. Angry female social media humans always post ten of those grinning or laughing emoji whenever they are obviously mad.

I dislike it verily
Language evolves, in this part it's not social mdia

apologems
I agree with the spirit of the thread

because their "fans" aren't fans of the work so much as they are of the person and their "representation", These people put out shitty comics as part of their larger output of trendy sj tweets, pots, and other bullshit.

That's why they always have to keep upping the ante, going from gay, to bi, to trans, to whatever is next.

fix it>?

You sound very investment in me losing hope

You're not being honest at all. You're saying that the physical evidence of sex isn't as sexual as a gay couple and couples are meant to be narrative child producing devices. It's weird. Plots revolve around friends, love interests, and enemies, but now there are these weird rules for couples and their plot points. I'd say you're trolling, but people go full moron trying to defend cartoon pregnancies when talking about the "sexual nature" of gay couples.

>Pregnancies are not sexual

Reproduction is sexual.

Reproduction is sexual. Cum is after sex so if two dudes are covered in cum, but you don't see how they got that way, it isn't sexual.

You don't have a point. A pregnancy is sexual. Cum isn't sexual.

You don't know what's sexual or what's a story. Or you do, you're just dishonest.

>or two opposite sex organisms
that's... that's how it currently works, anon

I mean he is literally correct. Pregnancy isn't sexual.
The act of sex leads to pregancy yes, but Sexual is a term that refers to arousal and the instigation of sex.
Pregnancy by it's definition is literally not sexual, it's done after sex.
Cum isn't sexual in and of itself, merely the situation you may describe it may imply arousal, and thus add sexual connotations.

This is why sitting naked isn't always sexual. Sure, it CAN be sexual, but not always.

There is more to heterosexual couples than sex. There is nothing more to homosexual couples than sex.

That is my point, stop trying to talk around it.

Pregnancy is more sexual than two dudes saying they're married.

It's literally not.

Anon, I never at any point said any relationship was "Good" or Evil"

I used the term selfish, and ultimately, yes Heterosexual couples who don't want kids are usually just in it for sex and are pretty selfish.

You only get kids for yourself moron. You do it for status reasons, you literally cannot love something that does not exist. You can love an existing person you know, so love (platonic or not) is a thing, loving a hypothetical person with a personality you don't know is not.
You are fricking naive if you believe that people get kids because of selflessness and not for themselves. You buy a cat for yourself as well. The cat is ultimately an object for entertainment. Of course you will like it at some point, but you also like your PC which you also bought for yourself, for your personal goals.

>carrying on their legacy
What does that even mean? Nothing is carried over. You genes mean shit, you aren't the kid and won't be able to control it. When you die you are 100% dead. I never understood the point of this.

Sounds strange. I was happy whenever I was alone, my interests were completely different from the shit my parents liked or knew. I could never sit around with a kid without being bored either, I always only learned shit for myself and hated school and I hate teaching anybody anything.

I mean I am 30+ now and still have zero interest in relationships or sex and find young kids a bit disgusting to be honest and I cannot touch people anyway so this would never allure me. I am inherently a loner, even meeting friends feels like work most of the time, I would legit kill someone at some point if I lived with someone even if it was the best friend. Unless they rarely talk to me and leave me alone.

Humanity is not one collective, we do not measure people by how bad or good they present onto others, that is how eugenics happens my friend.

But again, if you actually listened to my point, I am not against Ed and Agnes having a relationship in their 70s. I am not for selfish families having kids for no reason.

I am just pointing out that ultimately a good stable heterosexual relationship is one that will produce offspring and sacrifice for them.

It's not eugenics to look at a couple where say both are very mentally ill and one is physically, emotionally, and sexually abusive and they ate living in poverty and to privately think it's a bad idea for them to start a family right now. I'm not saying anything about it and if they get therapy and are in a more stable place emotionally and financially I change my mind while their genes haven't changed at all. It's about situations and motives, what makes you think it's about genes?

"Privately dissaproving in my own private thoughts" = / = denying anyone anything. I am not saying anything or taking any action. Thoughtcrime isn't...a crime, just your thoughts.

Well right like it's common to get frustrated and wish you could scream at or even punch someone a good civilized person just takes a deep breath and moves on. Feeling irritated sometimes is normal.

You mean to tell me you have never known or heard or known of someone and thought, "They probably shouldn't have/should not have had kids?" At least before getting some help if they're in a very bad way. That's literally all I'm talking about. Especially when you read news about Family Annihilators (people who violently murder all of their children and sometimes their spouse, too) and they have a lifelong history of violent behavior, domestic abuse, violent crime, etc. and everyone says they're not surprised. You wish they had gotten help and treatment instead of leaving a pile of bodies, trauma, and wrecked lives.

That's all.

Oh I have thought that all the time, I've just given up the delusion that society is a solid structure and it isn't a fragile spider web of self-interest.

The problem is that they don't even need to be with their kids now. Before (not too long before but in the 80-00s or so) people that didn't want kids didn't get them. Now people that don't really want them get them regardless because life goal or something and they give them away to make others take care about them all day and only see them for a single hour a day and during that hour they shove the phone into their hand to make them shit up.
The irony is that the state that does all the shit for them isn't allowed to ever call the kids out if they pull shit because the parents take that personally and threat suing them. The result is that parents that never wanted to deal with their kids raise absolute buttholes because the kids aren't educated or taught manners because they are in full-time kindergardens all day and teachers aren't allowed to say "no". This is why we have so much buttholes now. Everybody should be forced to do a test and if they fail they lose the parental license and are forcefully getting neutered.

>To be fair teachers love not having any handles on the children.
Yeah it's easier. When I have kid groups with teacher in the subway nowadays I always contemplate mass murder. They scream so loudly it literally makes your fricking ears bleed and you cannot talk anymore. Do you think any of the fricking teachers would ever say a word? Nah. They are stupid smiling 20yo b***hes that probably got the job thanks to nepotism or for fun.

I sound like a boomer when I say that even though I am in my late 20s, but when I was a kid they always told us to stop if we were obviously bothering other people. Happens. But most kids listen. Most of them aren't buttholes (at least not yet), so they will be more silent if the teacher asks them to tone it down.
But today nobody gives a shit about others, nobody enforces rules, parents are all shitters that don't care about anything and a lot of these kids will grow up into narcissists and sociopaths because they are barely aware that others are alive or even exist and they learned that they can do everything without ever getting any backlash. I am not even a conservative but holy shit, if you start to directly hurt or bother others it's time to stop or get someone that makes you stop.

You are probably a sociopath if you consider every form of love "selfish" if it doesn't produce offspring.
Imagine being with someone that only cares about kids and not you or any of the friends.

You both seem to have some weird aversion to ultimately self-serving relationships being called Selfish.

They are selfish, being a little selfish isn't bad, it's preservation instinct after all, however for narratives, selfishness is usually a dead end.

That is my fundamental point; Gay couples are selfish in a literary sense just as they are self-serving in the real world, and ultimately not very good wriitng.

This is in the same way that a heterosexual couple to be outlined quite heavily, but then they have no real progression into a family.

Because they generally just represent a dead end from a narrative point of view.

Look at Gollum in Lord of the Rings. He was not going to develop, his greed left him as a dead end and one that was used as a foil for others.

Selfishness is a good foil, but it doesn't do anything for progression in a story.

How are you giving anything to create people who don't exist? People have children for selfish reasons all of the times. If a person dedicates their life to curing cancer or some other noble goal, are they more selfish than a single mother to have a child because she wants something forced to love her or people who need workers for their farms?

You have a totally bizarre system or morality that seems to be based on nothing. I would rather people not have children unless they actually want them and have the means and ability to raise them. Unlike you, I don't think this means they can't fall in love, even if they're sworn to chastity. You seem to think falling in love or just wanting a life companion are impossible. Are you a sociopath?

Pregnancy is more sexual than two dudes saying they're married.

Perhaps, but the end result of heterosexual relationships is always implied to be a family.

The Prince rescuing the Princess implies there will be a lineage upheld.

The Prince rescuing the Price simply implies sex will be done.

The Heroes Journey is supposed to have an end anon, you even point it out further that it's just a never ended hedonistic circle with no satisfying ending.

So what? Meaning humans are nothing but animals that shit out kids?

Well as a base biological drive yes, but Human beings like inheritence and to provide for others.

People who say the term "Shit out kids" pretty much confirm their sociopaths, Watching kids grow and learn is one of the most rewarding things humans can ever feel.

Not that anon but you literally don't know what sexual means. It doesn't mean you getting hard about it. But that you think so and still call gays sexual is telling.

>You're not being honest at all

They're being plenty honest. Conan being taught by his father about the riddle of steel is not sexual. It's a narrative point about both family and morality.

Conan can't have a family without a mother and father, like literally everyone on earth.

Dumbass, there are tons of real same sex partners who have never ever fricked and never will and they call themselves "ace." They're more common with same sex than opposite sex couples and therefore superior I guess because there is ZERO sexual component to their relationship. They have NO sex so their relationship has absolutely nothing to do with sex.

Do you know people in the community in real life or are you just making up bullshit to have no fricking clue about the entire culture like this? Also there are ace same sex couples who adopt kids. What the frick is your point? Do you know many gay people IN REALITY not online or are you bullshitting?

Spare me your twitter assumptions. "Ace" people exist as such an absolute tiny fraction of any sexual group to the point of near non-existance.

The fact most "Ace" people always need to underline it with "I totally have sex I just don't enjoy it teehee" is why things like this exist as such a cosmic joke.

Oh fricking this, I consider myself a prude because I generally just don't like sex because it's work but snowflakes had to make it their personality

So why did Marvel feel the need to make their character asexual then after establishing the character to be anything but?

Why are you shitting on Ace people when they're the only "moral" people in the Universe, rare or not? Sex for closeness and enjoyment are evil and once people get old, injured, or infertile they have to break up or I guess be killed because raising children is the only thing people are allowed to do that doesn't make them selfish evil villains (Sorry, grandpa, but your swimmers ain't swimming anymore to reproduce, better die).

>Wait, so if a gay story is about gay characters adopting a kid, or promoting some familial norm, or standards related to the family, then it's A-ok? I mean adoptions and children needing families is something that exist and is a problem, would that be a good message in your eyes?

Yes, I actually find adoption stories very uplifting and a good example to express the human spirit of nurturing.

>You realize gay people can still have children, right? Sure, not with each other, but there are ways for gay people to have genetic children

This however is fundamentally selfish, and treats the child as an object to control and force. You will never provide a good family with this mindset.

>Also do you think sex is the only reason a gay relationship last?

Yes.

>Do you not think sex can be a thing that can break/make a straight relationship?

I think those relationships it breaks are ultimately selfish and ones that are unhealthy.

>Yes, I actually find adoption stories very uplifting and a good example to express the human spirit of nurturing.
I know plenty of gay couples who adopt because they want children. Same for the latter (reproducing by getting a surrogate mother). Why not, instead of labeling it all as degeneracy, promote for shows that push the value of the family in a way that you believe gays can genuine contribute to society (giving homes to children that do not have them), like and Tango makes three.

Also, it's anecdotal, but I know gay relationships that last without the necessity of sex always being available, in the same way there's straight couples that, as they get older, sex just isn't as available between them. Sex can be something that attracts people or contributes to a relationship, but it isn't the entirety of a relationship and I've never seen a gay relationship (one that's lasted) exist purely off of sex. Usually they share interests and goals that make them continue as a couple. Emotional support out of your spouse is usually way bigger than sexual support, and the best gay couples I've seen are those that are emotionally in tune with one another, and not all of those involve children or tons of sex.

Plus people contribute more to society than children ultimately. If there are gay people out there who are happy with their relationships, and that happiness allows them to contribute to society in other ways (labor, innovation, etc) then I don't see a fault in that.

Also, regardless of how adult gay relationships play out, which I would say is socially influenced, you learn you're gay/bi/straight pretty damn early. It sucks figuring out you like men then realizing how out of the norm that is and unsure if there's something wrong with you and worrying about losing friends and family for even saying such a thing. It's an incredibly shitty burden for something immutable.

Of course people are far more than the sum of their relationships with partners and spouses. And I agree a more family oriented ideal of gay couples would be very welcoming.

I guess my perception mainly comes from my interaction with the gay community, as I work for a charity building that is pretty central to the local LGBT community and all I can really get from their projection is that it's literally nothing but sex and casual relationships.

I have never met a gay man in my long years of working at said charity who desired children, in fact many of the older ones are men running away from their families, which I find detestable.

But from a philsophical standpoint, I always went with society can't really function without stable functional families, even before having a kid I was very family orientated and all the shit happening in the world seems to come from broken homes and weird twisted parents.

Anecdata I guess, I know plenty of broken heterosexual families from poor communities with deadbeat dads and moms, abusive dads and moms, kids needing to go to foster care for horrific a use, all that I know of at least heterosexual, probably just because the majority of people are though. Also from my charity work.

Most gay people I know are young and in monogamous LTRs and are virgins right now, a generational thing I guess. Some say they want kids. But that's also pure coincidence and just one random anecdotal thing.

I know my perception is based on mostly anecdtoes, but also alot of trends.

The LGBT community, at least the over culture, is really self-serving. To the point I genuinely think they have forgotten the point was to remove the stigmas of the groups they support. Nowadays they seem to be adding more.

I mean I would never trust my child around a trans person at all.

Any given person can only give anecdata and confirmation bias on other populations is the problem and more likely to remember and relate what supports your preferred narrative and that applies to all sides of any argument.

Same here. I am rather from the lower class and my parents were the only normal ones and even they were absent all day till 7PM or so (though I was always busy with other shit) but all the others I knew were pure horror.
When I visited a friend as kid I would always, almost fricking always, see huge ugly drama unfold over mundane shit. Like ONE toy car lying around and the father passes by and loses his shit, starts screaming, starts smashing a chair against the wall, friend starts crying, sister starts crying, mother enters the room and they are shouting at each other, someone vomits, I stay there awkwardly and expect the shit to pass.
Or they scream at me and send me home. Every fricking time. Those are only the parents I casually met and visited. Frick knows what else they did when I wasn't there and how fricked up other parents were since I had a bunch of friends who were paranoid about others ever learning anything about their family. A large part of humanity is fricked up, not just parents either, there are enough kids with normal families becoming sociopaths that threaten or kill others over mundane shit.

I know why most people my age that I know prefer to stay single.

I mean I am not shitting on the class. I am pretty sure that upper class gays are just as bad just differently. I surely rarely get along with wealthy gays and there must be a reason for that. Only old rich are sometimes good and they can even be educated as shit you can have great convos. But they are always older than 70.

You are too nice anon, you confuse me a bit I am used that everybody here is shitting on everybody else. I am sorry I was mean to you.

Thank you anon, maybe I should finally get my ass up and finish that pic I am working on instead of sleeping and posting in all my free time.

???? Why are you offended, do you beat your kids? He's not talking about you otherwise. I don't understand at all.

Sometime spaces are done to separate thoughts after a big paragraph and to make text less blocky. If anything this is a reddit spacing post

>You're not being honest at all

They're being plenty honest. Conan being taught by his father about the riddle of steel is not sexual. It's a narrative point about both family and morality.

Conan can't have a family without a mother and father, like literally everyone on earth.

I wish I could strangle you to death using your own reddit spacing

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Reminder, all the pushback on the LGBT is caused because of a minority of very radical frickwits who try to push the agenda onto kids as a way of making "Queer families"

Because while the majority of dysfunctional homes are heterosexual, most if not all LGBT people suffer from very severe social and mental issues.

Do you seriously think a trans person of any flavour would be a good parent?

Maybe? Some mentally ill people manage to be good parents and others don't. Some people are not mentally ill and are still bad parents. What's your argument? That people should have to take a "good parent" test before having kids?

There are hardly any LGBT people so I just don't see it as an "issue" that needs action taken any more than albino people or something. It's irrelevant.

That, and media in general collectively deciding to only cater to Twitter's whims, and NOBODY ELSE.

Can you link such posts? Because you sound like an US tard that knows jackshit about other countries. I live here for 30+ years now and have never seen this shit. Everybody just says that they're German, or French or French-Spanish but nothing more than that.

>The second msot famous government in your continents history

This has to be one of if not the most hilariously American thing someone has ever said.

I'm not even the person you were first arguing with. I just find your Americlap centric viewpoint hilariously laughable because even by your own fricking history the Imperial French Government and the British Parlimantarian Government should be more important to your worldview you fricking cretin.

No, trans shit is literally not a thing here because people aren't as online addicted are murrishitters.

Yeah it's actually legal in a shitton of countries and yet you don't see everybody younger than 45 run around and claim to be trans.

Channel 4 wants a word with you(r kids), and it takes place in Britain, “cuties” from Netflix was made in Sundance from a supposed French woman, it’s not because of a single country the word is getting shat up, it’s because of the groups that cause the shitting up

Please go to literally any slav country and search for the trans people there. Hell go to Italy and show me all the trans stuff they have.

Please note how France/Europe critically praised Cuties and adored it while in the US it was banned in many places and heavily panned
Europe just loved transgender and LGBT grooming for underage children more.

You haven’t left your basement in the last decade

>France/Europe
So all of Europe is France?
Can you please link the source that backs your bullshit up and shows that Europe, aka 45 different countries, have praised it?

>Europe just loved transgender and LGBT grooming for underage children more.
Poland has literal anti-LGBT zones and bans. Europe isn't a fricking town.

If you want to go that route you can stop pretending California (which is very much like Western Europe) is representative of all of America
You physically live closer to the front lines of the warzone of Ukraine then I do to California

Stop pretending this didn’t start because you associated all of America with California

>France/Europe
So all of Europe is France?
Can you please link the source that backs your bullshit up and shows that Europe, aka 45 different countries, have praised it?

What does it even mean is this a meme?
>captcha: NPD KN
NPD is the name of our nazi party.

>Add Scots and French going on about being “Celtic”
Again, nobody fricking tells you they are celtic if you casually ask them where they or their parents are from. People don't talk in shizo fantasy they name nations.
>Anon the second most famous government in your continents history was centered around the idea of being “pure Ayran”
Nazis also said they were "German" and they are know for being moronic. And what the frick is the "most famous government" of Europe? Ancient Rome? Byzantine?

Ah yes people call themselves after football clubs from 1888, fatsack anglo shitter.

>Serbs refer to themselves as Slavs
Absolute moronic horseshit there are a ton of countries and cultures that are "Slavs" this is like pretending that US frickers called themselves "Anglos.
Serbs in particular are pretty patriotic, they are proud of being SERBS. Not "Slavs", most of their mortal enemies are Slavs you anglo.

Oh sure, meanwhile we can look at
>Steven Universe
>Adventure Time
>Craig of the Creek
>Owl House
>Amphibia
>That shitty Transformers cartoon
>Victor & Valentino
>We Baby Bears
>Fricking Arthur
And see that they've all got gay shit.
At this point it'd be easier to name the cartoons that DON'T have gay shit in them.

Hot lesbians are hot.
And only if they're fricking.
Ugly lesbians, as is the case in most of those cartoons, are not.
Nor are girls just standing fully clothed around being lesbians.
Only white dudes think lesbians are inherently hot, so I'm going to assume that I was right and you're 100% white.

I'll take femboys fricking girls over lesbians, but it goes without saying that gays and trannies are a no-go.

>and anon calls me the homo...
Yes, and I will continue to do so, since you probably are.

>Look at this gay, he likes straight sex
Right, like I said, you are probably a homo.

a woman and what's basically... an 'mtf-lite'...
That's like calling a shota an mtf-lite.
>Anyways a man wanting to see two (actual) women getting it on with eachother is as straight as an arrow.
Unfortunately white dudes into lesbians mainly seem to want to see lesbian romance, and not actual fricking, which is extremely fricking gay and explains why so many white troons are obsessed with lesbians, since they mainly seem to want to BE lesbians.
If you're into yuri porn, that's based, if you're just into lesbians for lesbians' sake, you're a troon-in-the-making.

Nah, that's only if you're EXCLUSIVELY into yuri porn, since those types tend to be incels who hate men who have more romantic or sexual success than them, even if they're fictional.
The thinking man's porn is FFM threesomes.

Fictional characters will never have sex with you anyway and self-inserters are unironically autistic.

>A regular boy/man doesn't act or dress up like a girl.
A femboy doesn't need to be dressed up like a girl to frick a chick.
>The able-minded man is usually disgusted at the sight of a man involved in intercourse with other women
Ahh, you're one of those incels I mentioned.
Yea, you're definitely a white dude who's going to troon out in a few years.
I had a feeling you were one of those types when I read your first post.
I look forward to mourning you in the yearly r/a/dio threads like that other white yurigay who trooned out and killed himself.

>Yet they mostly tend to do so on any other occasion anyways.
Not in the porn I look at.
But right, like I said, you seem like a white guy who worships lesbians, so you are absolutely going to troon out.
As soon as you said that shit about guys not wanting to see a dude get with a chick (which would be like saying guys don't want to watch a movie where the male lead gets the girl) I knew you were a yurigay, which means you're a soon-to-be-troon.
Thoughts and prayers, homie.

>Women hot. gays not.
Yeah I said so. Still did you ever consider that gay male characters might exist to pander to women? You aren't forced to watch every cartoon and anime out there, just ignore what isn't for you instead of getting mad over series for things that pander to a literal heterosexual audience.

It's just your sexuality then. I get the trans hate but like half of the audience of cartoons are women, let the girls have something to watch too (male gay shit) instead of seething about it because something isn't pandering to you. Ironically, cartoons never do male gay pairings unless it's some irrelevant background dudes.
Strange how wokeness only applies when it's about lesbians.

Ok, that makes it better. If it was an entire issue, then I’d say people were being ripped off. Still doesn’t make the art better.

how's psh

>kind of individual function in real life?
They don't. They usually stay at home and get mental illness money. They also get mental breakdowns if their parents ask them to clean their room.

Getting fake outraged and demanding people submit is a major industry in america.

They aren't even really looking for that. They are looking for that sweet dopamine hit that terminally online people get when they get retweets and likes.

No, transformers beat women.

those bucklers did their weight in gold

>and they always end up reaping what they sow (pun intended)
Pottery

My "non-binary" friend who claims to be SO MASC when she's wearing all girls clothing but a button down mans shirt slightly ajar with a bralette peeking out and 2 pounds of glittery makeup on. Oh but she's flat chested so I guess she's real masc with this womans outfit on.

Yeah, the men in DB don’t look rounded to shit and the women are far from generic prostitutes.

I miss when Bulma was a fanservice character.

You said only a woman would irrationally choose dragonball because said person didn’t like generic cape comics. That’s ignorantly laughable. The truth is dragonball has wide appeal for both boys and girls.