>ruined a whole character for Twitter clout

>ruined a whole character for Twitter clout
>unironically fricked over the sequel series and any goodwill TFA made for a new story
>Star Wars still hasnt bounced back from it

why is Rian still praised in Hollywood after this shit?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because he didn't ruin anything, you're just too moronic to understand the brilliance of this script, and with this come also the fact that you're too moronic to even comprehend that you're moronic.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      oh i see, this script is too advanced for me to appreciate.
      but hang on
      there are so many things in this film that were done so much better in older films that this alone makes TLJ look like a sack of ameturish shit.
      I mean, you wouldnt be a lying, moron, contrairian shit eater, would you?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Something only an actual moron like yourself would say.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Something only an actual moron like yourself would say.
        That's rude.

    • 7 months ago
      ill keep posting this until the bot threads stop

      He's honestly the greatest and most damaging troll in the history of cinema/television. He cost Yidney billions, BILLIONS in future earnings for nu-wars.

      Don’t forget, people were still mass-huffing copium over TFA being mid at the time, if he had actually delivered a half-decent film it would all have been forgiven. Instead he made the shittiest possible film he could. It’s almost like he sat down, scoured Cinemaphile for every major issue brought up, then amplified every complaint we had about TFA to 11 on purpose, and splattered woke ideology over it as well so Yidney and the internet troony brigades were forced to shill for and defend, literal dogshit. I could only DREAM of tricking my enemies, into both praising and financially backing something I created specifically to spite them.

      Oh anon, you don’t like Mary Sues like Rey huh? Well enjoy, they aren’t just gonna be Mary Sues, they’re gonna be the Mary fricking Poppins of Mary Sues, literally! And there’ll be like 5 of them in the same film! The space battles don’t make sense? Good, mine will make even less sense, enjoy r*ddit-tier arguments during space battles and sci-fi versions of 1940s bomber planes, in space, dropping bombs reliant on gravity momentum to work, bombs like that don’t even exist NOW, all modern bombs today have various guidance systems built into them, let alone the future, it’s moronic as frick, you’ll hate it! Oh, and you think Snoke has potential as a villain? Cool, so im gonna kill him within 3 minutes of his big reveal, I could go on. It’s a goldmine of bad film ideas and design philosophies. All on purpose I feel.

      Honestly, i hated nu-wars from the moment i walked out of TFA and wrote off the whole universe at that point. But, if they had put me in Rian's place, and i felt like tanking the entire franchise with extreme prejudice, I very much doubt i could have done more damage to Yidney than Rian, his masterpiece of garbage is a work of trolling art.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        this
        not to mention the chud looks, acts, and talks like the stereotypical internet basement dwelling incel hollywood despises
        so this gross, greasy, definite sex pest was handed the reigns by known incompetent moron kathleen "karen" kennedy to wipe his greasy ass with yidsnep's new flagship enterprise

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is why he'll never be a great artist. He's too obsessed with the audience to write a good story.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        maybe it's for the best, if nuwars was good we'd obsess over star wars too much

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is why he'll never be a great artist. He's too obsessed with the audience to write a good story.

        I feel Rian spent too much time browsing Reddit and other SWs forums and went out of his way to subvert or avert all of their predictions and theories. I don't why writers feel the need to one-up their audiences simply because they can accurately guess where their story is going or predict certain plotlines, the mechanics or world building of the setting.

        I always thought it was a mark of a good writers for audiences to understand their work that can comprehend the tone and physical laws of the universe they created based on the examples given. But apparently, to writers, proving them wrong, even if contradicts what they wrote previously, is more important to them ego wise.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          They know that we know "their" fictional world better than they do and they know that we even get lucky with plot ideas, too. Once "meme culture" went mainstream and was embraced by normies this was inevitable because Hollywood will attempt to feed it back to us and make movies that are shitposts and that's basically what we've been living under for a decade. It also allows them to one-up everyone and assert dominance and control, as if they're conditioning their audience and the population at large to accept demoralization. There are other reasons too, having to do with why they despise "serious" genre entertainment and see it as a threat, but job number one is getting control over "their" Star Wars, even if it means destroying it.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's amazing how people can blind themselves to defend anything, even if they know it's terribly, simply because the product itself aligns with their personal ideology. Nu-Star Wars, Borderlands 3, and Disney's Live Action animated adaptations are all recent examples that are all terrible, yet you have these fanatical fans who defend it like a religion.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        This, except SW fans deserved the worst for actually liking TFA, which everyone enjoyed when it came out. It made me realize the fanbase deserved to suffer.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          TFA wasn't bad. It was completely safe and after the shitty prequels that's all it needed to be. It was perfectly serviceable as a starting point for a solid trilogy. If the next two movies were good, everyone would be saying how it was smart for TFA to be a reimagining of ANH.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >If the next two movies were good
            They were tho.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Try harder, homosexual.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous
          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It was indicative of Disney's writers having nothing interesting to say or do. It was an early warning that there's no quality ahead. That's why TFA's derivativeness made everyone worried.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              I completely understand. The thing is, if there was a solid plan in place for an interesting story, TFA would still have been made close to what it was. Disney needed to first show that they wanted to give more of an OT feel than a PT feel and that's something they did successfully.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        While I disagree that Disney Wars is totally unsalvageable, you are right about the monumental desolation wrought by Rian, you literally could not make a more brand-damaging film if you tried; any chance the sequels had of being appreciated decades later even as cult classics was obliterated. I don't think anybody in cinema history - possibly not even the history of the arts as a concept since the first Cro-Magnons started painting the cave walls of Lascaux - has ever, with such malice, produced such a work of anti-entertainment.
        TLJ was a Tower of Babel.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is actually the most likely explanation.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, it's not likely he did this to troll people. He's just a terrible writer and you can tell this from how badly written his other movies are. Occom's razor, it's as simple as that.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's also pretty easy to trace his thought process without attributing it to hatred. Same goes for Lucas selling Lucasfilm to begin with.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's interesting to see the "No, no, the prequels were actually really good" narrative play out and develop in real time, but for the sequels.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      D I E
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    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >this is how homosexual shills defend a privileged white male
      KEK

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >brilliance

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >favourite
        Don't even care. Still putting your "rubbish" Britoid opinions straight into the "bin". I only listen to people with freedoms who create culture - not worldie consumers.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Changing Luke's soul off screen is ruining the character and the franchise.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        kk said Lucas-SW was the past, Disney SW was the future and we needed to accept that. The next thing we see is Luke's character destroyed and the whole "let the past die, kill it if you must" in action.

        I would really like to find out how Lucas thinks about kk after watching her rape his creation for almost a decade now.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bend over a shotgun.

      https://i.imgur.com/D55vtmh.jpg

      >ruined a whole character for Twitter clout
      >unironically fricked over the sequel series and any goodwill TFA made for a new story
      >Star Wars still hasnt bounced back from it

      why is Rian still praised in Hollywood after this shit?

      Literally what praise? I’ve never seen anyone say anything other than how he fricked it all up badly.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because he had nothing to do with it. The film was purposely made to be as offensive, disrespectful and humiliating as possible.

    They made the hero of of multiple generations a psychopathic, nephew-murdering butthole.
    Yoda says “throw out the book, religion is bullshit lol”
    It was made by Bolsheviks to humiliate you.
    Luke represents the fall of European man.
    Yoda telling a woman “frick our religion just do whatever you want” is them telling you they have subverted and devalued your institutions.
    Rian is just the man they attached it to.
    It’s an evil movie, it’s so evil that it redpilled people to look into why it was so evil lol. It has an insidious dark aura.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unironic paranoid schizophrenia is radiating from this post

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        This will get tons of yous because I am exactly correct.
        TLJ was made to humiliate you, they think they are clever.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >TLJ was made to humiliate you, they think they are clever.
          In what way? It's literally empowering as shit. Luke has failed into depression, but when called to action found it in himself to whip out his big bulging veiny Jedi wiener and slap Kylo on the face with it so hard he was never the same. Rey got schooled three times in the same movie, every time as a lesson not to be a naive moron. Even the side-plot was really cool, where the movie implied they didn't know what they were doing and ended up... not knowing what they were doing. It's an extremely honest and mature film, more than any other Star Wars entry.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's literally empowering as shit
            Literally a Freudian slip.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thia guy gets it. What they did to Luke was a memetic crucifixion. Here he is, the ultimate icon of nerd culture, your king of the nerds, now watch as we defame, defile then finally crucify him.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I honestly never cared about Luke. Is this some EU thing? I mean, he was the main character in the original three movies, but nothing else. He was kind of bland. Star Wars doesn't have great characters.

        I actually hoped Disney won't bring back any old characters and make its own story, but they were too afraid to try something new.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Man, the more you think about it, the more you realise Philip K Dick was right about everything.
        The Empire never ended.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          what did PKD say?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            The narrative of Christ being crucified and the early Christians being persecuted is encoded in the fabric of reality somehow, and keeps playing out.
            "The Empire never ended", because power just changes hands. We may as well all be early Christians living under the Romans.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yoda burning the tree and the books is the only part of this movie that made sense though. He should be the last person to care about books, symbols, and wikipedia pages. Of course it upset lore obsessed zoomers.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Right, only his enemies should care about those things. We should portray him as being fine with that to more easily achieve our goals.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >teachings that led to the downfall of the jedi order should be preserved and followed forever
          Hitler burned troony manuals. you saying Hitler was wrong to do that? are you a fricking homosexual?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            In order for this to be a true equivalency, Hitler would have to have been burning his own books.

            Furthermore, you are simultaneously equating Yoda’s spiritual religion which has guided his civilization for generations with books advocating sex change operations.

            You are not very intelligent.

            The film portrays Yoda as burning his own history and laughing about it. It isn’t subtle. It’s so disgustingly brazen that even a midwit can understand the meaning behind it.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              inflamed ego, the post.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly what about that post implies any sense of inflamed ego? Is it because you have nothing to say so you just spout nonsense because you can’t challenge it?

                But he doesn't burn his own history, Rey evacuated the ancient texts, it's even implied that Yoda knows this

                Yoda says something akin to the books no longer mattering. He is supportive and promotes the idea, the Jedi master Yoda, who spent his entire life a monk dedicated to his religion. The writers purposefully inverted his character to promote killing the old order subconsciously to the masses. It’s Russian Revolution style propaganda.

                >muh christcuckery!!!
                You’re almost right, but christcucks always have to take things too far.

                I said absolutely nothing about Christianity in my post and you reveal your true intentions. You jump at the opportunity to say the word “christcuck” because of a bogus vendetta only you hold.

                Manipulating simple people because you can is evil, and evil only goes unpunished for so long. The stalwart collective rejection of these films is proof of sea change.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              But he doesn't burn his own history, Rey evacuated the ancient texts, it's even implied that Yoda knows this

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            In order for this to be a true equivalency, Hitler would have to have been burning his own books.

            Furthermore, you are simultaneously equating Yoda’s spiritual religion which has guided his civilization for generations with books advocating sex change operations.

            You are not very intelligent.

            The film portrays Yoda as burning his own history and laughing about it. It isn’t subtle. It’s so disgustingly brazen that even a midwit can understand the meaning behind it.

            It's more that a Hollywood libtard with no understanding of tradition and ritual presented the idea you can be le cultural Jedi and don't need to put in any work to call yourself "spiritual." Kek.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's like Protestants saying that they are culturally Christian and that they are individualists lol.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, that's the analogy I was going for. "Cultural Christian" and "spiritual but not religious."

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Succinctly put, the israelites must be removed

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dam, that's edgy bro. Don't think you can say that...

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not edgy at all, they are prone to revolutionary thinking and obsessed with hiding among the minorities while exercising all the benefits of the majority. The israelites are hellbent at changing America’s Foundation myth to holocaust saviors and destroying Luke Skywalker is apart of that process

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly correct.

            Star Wars was a religious institution (based on actual religious myth.)

            Because it is a religious institution, it must be subverted to control the minds of it’s followers, that is the Bolshevik modus operandi and has been for a long, long time.

            Mythic characters and tales people resonate with and project themselves into were inverted purposely in an attempt to corrupt them at worst, demoralize them at best.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muh christcuckery!!!
      You’re almost right, but christcucks always have to take things too far.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They made the hero of of multiple generations a psychopathic, nephew-murdering butthole.

      This is the biggest issue amongst a myriad of issues. Kathy intentionally wanted to humiliate and degrade Luke Skywalker. It’s the reason that Star Wars is still a vastly underperforming asset to this day. To be clear, Kennedy still absolutely intends to steal Anakin/ Leia/ Luke’s story/ accomplishments and give all of them to Rey. She’s just waiting a few more years. But she still intends to push that angle 100% no matter how much money and controversy it costs Disney

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can't wait for lucasfilm to be sold to apple just to end this madness
        only for apple to then keep Kathy in charge

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It was made by Bolsheviks to humiliate you
      I didn't know Vladimir Lenin made this film to support the communist cause
      You're a moron. Ryan made this film because wanted to do something about failure and do commentary on war profiteering. Its not some commie plot to demoralize Americans, it's a poorly thought out film by a smug narcissist. What's more likely? The biggest media conglomerate in Hollywood pushing an ideology that would force it to share it's wealth and demoralize the goyim or some pretentious moron making stupid decisions without thinking them through?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What's more likely? The biggest media conglomerate in Hollywood pushing an ideology that would force it to share it's wealth
        Since when has communism ever forced the wealthy to share their wealth with the poor. When did that happen in history?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          NTA but Mao's purges of the landlords.
          In fact purging landlords is a pretty standard practice in socialist revolutions.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >landlords
            >the wealthy
            Another shit eating moron, god damn star wars threads attract them like flies to honey.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's a poorly thought out film by a smug narcissist.
        I've never thought Johnson was malicious. Lots of directors make shit movies.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      the leftists loved him for shitting on george's legacy and then pandering to anti trumpers with knives out.

      the new movie seemed to get weak reviews so his utility is probably over.

      wrong. rian did know what he was doing and laughed at us all while doing it. all liberals think they are updating old toxic properties by wearing their skin to preach leftist ideology

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Accurate except he was an accomplice.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    TFA was a piece of shit and I'm glad Rian destroyed this shitty franchise.

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    you think the director has say over what happens ina billion dollar movie franchise?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      In this case, yeah. It really seems like no one supervised this shit.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Somehow Palpatine returned is way worse, not only is it horrible in its own right but alot of Star Wars media after it has had to plug the holes that it left in its wake.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      they had to have Palpatine return because Rian got rid of Snoke

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Rey or Princess Leia should have been the final boss of the trilogy. They were too pussy.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >is way worse
      Not even close. Palpatine returning is basically the punchline to the unintentional joke Rian made of the entire franchise. Rian dismantled every plot thread and every draw that made audiences remotely care about the st.
      JJ answered with low-effort shit because what else was he going to do? It's impossible to care about the story after tlj

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >what else was he going to do?
        I agree it was a bad situation but I also would never predict something well thought out, clever or even interesting from JJ.
        the tell-dont-show "somehow Papatine has returned" line is from a director that should not have a job anymore.
        its beyond low effort, its a brainfart that was not developed any further.
        I do expect more from such expensive films

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Jew-israelite and his Mystery Box bullshit should have been strangled at birth. Audiences want answers to questions.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >unintentional
        TLJ is the punchline to the joke TFA unintentionally set up

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, TFA plot is a joke. Why is old Luke's lightsaber even a plot point? It's so stupid and pointless, and that's basically the plot.
          Same with Vader's mask. How Kylo even found that? Why no one told him that Vader turned good and killed emperor?
          The whole film doesn't make any sense, not only its """"new"""" setting.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Same with Vader's mask. How Kylo even found that?
            He didn't, it shouldn't exist, it was burned on a pyre it would have melted into a puddle of goo and everything on that pyre would have returned to nature years ago. It was literally impossible for it to exist 20 years later.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good post

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why is Rian still praised in Hollywood after this shit?
    Because they do that with other characters and franchises daily?

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ruined a whole character for Twitter clout
    Snoke? The character that was literally nothing?
    For what it's worth, having Kylo Ren just straight up murder his boss like that was cool, and actually established Kylo Ren as a worthy character in a lot of ways. Shame they didn't go anywhere after that.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Killing snoke for muh “subvert expectations” would have worked IF Rey joined up with Kylo and the third movie youd have Kylo have a change of heart because “holy shit this rey girl is insane and wants to genocide literally everyone” and becomes the neutral/good goy in the end. Not the shit we got.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah that would have worked pretty well

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    If he didn't traffic children for them, he wouldn't have a job in Hollywood because he doesn't know how to make a watchable film.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Killing Snoke doesn't work because he's a non-character. Snoke should've been the main bad guy since TFA then killing him at the end of TLJ would be a good plot twist.
    Like in Final Fantasy when Sephiroth killed president Shinra or when Kefka killed emperor Gestahl.
    In TLJ it really doesn't work and is kind of anticlimactic.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, that's a huge part of the problem with it. Ryan didn't give a shit that he was working within the bounds of a trilogy and it was his responsibility to follow along with, and set up plot points for the next entry(JJ didn't care either for what it's worth). He just wanted to make his movie, break all of the toys, and have critics proclaim him a genius for upsetting the apple cart.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >JJ didn't care either for what it's worth
        JJ cared about lip-service with tfa at least. He didn't have any smart ideas for how the franchise would progress but he at least set up vague mystery boxes that could have literally anything inside them. And if nothing else, that lead to 2 years of fan speculation.
        The 2 years of speculation after tlj was when Kathy would be fired and what they could possibly do to recover from that dumpster fire.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >at least set up vague mystery boxes
          But that's just bad storytelling. The story, lore and new universe wasn't interesting. Mystery boxes 'worked' only because of their link to the original trilogy, not because they were good mysteries.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're looking at it from the context of "give us something new and interesting".
            That wasn't the film's intention though. The film's intention was "reboot this sci fi fantasy story in a way that appeals to old fans as well as people who have never seen it before"
            The mystery boxes aren't "good" but they spark discussion and have limitless potential. And most importantly they don't shit on literally everything anyone ever liked about the franchise (something that it's still baffling needs to be recognised as a positive)

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              The fans are moronic. TFA was a turd. A Marvelized flick pretending to be Star Wars. How can anyone watch it, enjoy it and think that this new universe has any potential.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >How can anyone watch it, enjoy it and think that this new universe has any potential.
                Because saying nothing leaves you with unlimited potential.
                Saying something shit reduces that potential.
                TFA left the franchise with limitless potential for a good writer/director to do something incredible.
                TLJ ruined the entire thing for everyone unless they were prepared for a hard retcon.
                If you can't understand that then you're just moronic and there's no helping you.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not really though, because you were still basically left with heroes you didn't care about, and villains who weren't imposing.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >TFA left the franchise with limitless potential for a good writer/director to do something incredible.
                no it didn't, it retread ANH shamelessly, only worse, its setup and universe made little sense, the villians were dogshit awful cringe, the political pandering was turkey-slap tier. It was a bad film as well. Jar Jar just hamfisted in a few forced mystery boxes and hoped for the best.

                To be fair, with kathleen kennedy at the helm, a good film was literally impossible, but still.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Star Wars is only fun because of George's world building. Despite the flaws people still remember the prequel trilogy twenty years later because of the excellent world building. Give the ST another twenty years and it will be completely forgotten.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >excellent world building
                >bro remember when ponda booboo farted on gonda dungu xD it had so much pathos

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Go to sleep, jj

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >TFA left the franchise with limitless potential
                Then why did they have to do a 1:1 copy of the plot right down to using the same planets with nothing but a name change to differentiate them? There's not much to Star Wars. The OT was a simple straight forward story with really basic lore. There's not that much to build upon if you want to keep it recognizable as Star Wars.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Then why did they have to do a 1:1 copy of the plot right down to using the same planets with nothing but a name change to differentiate them?
                Because that was the safest option and let audiences know that they would play the entire franchise safe.
                I don't know how retreading old ground limits a franchise's potential?
                >There's not that much to build upon if you want to keep it recognizable as Star Wars.
                The PT proves that this isn't true. Whether or not someone with a good vision to do so will come along is a separate question. But they didn't have to remake ANH, they just chose to for safety.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't know how retreading old ground limits a franchise's potential?
                >how does rejecting potential limit potential?
                Imbecile.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you fricker! by not using every colour of the spectrum in your painting, now I'm limited in what colours I can use!
                This makes sense to morons like you

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          The fact that the First Order and Kylo Ren are made out to be Boobs by the end of the movie, and Rey pretty much undergoes a complete hero's journey in the space of one movie was a serious misstep. Where do you even go from there?
          If you think about ANH in comparison, the Empire are made out to be nothing but competent, and fans were still awaiting the possibility of Luke confronting Vader in combat, and there was the whole question of whether Princess Leia would end up with Luke or Han. That gives you places to go with sequels.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            And the ESB. We see the Emperor for the first time, we learn that Vader is Luke's father, Luke gets his ass whupped, and Han gets frozen in carbonite. People were excited to see how those plot threads would resolve.
            TLJ gives you maybe the slightest glimmer that Kylo Ren might amount to more than a stock villain (but not really). They gave the audience nothing to latch onto.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Where do you even go from there?
            The obvious answer is Rey's downfall.
            The first film built her up. So the next film has to tear her down. Just like how ANH built Luke up as a hero who destroyed the death star, ESB tore him down by having him job to Vader and lose a hand.
            Similarly, TLJ should have had Rey get her shit kicked in to reveal that Kylo was heavily injured at the end of TFA, but at full strength she's no match for him.
            OR, and it's a big or, they could've gone for the twist that everyone would have loved and made Rey the villain. If she turned to the dark side, then the third film would be about the seemingly hopeless fight to take her down.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              she wasn't built up, she was a mary sue from day 1 until the end of the series, Jar Jar forced in some cringy training montages that had her miles above Luke skywalkers skill levels to an absurd degree, that was it. She never faced a difficult challenge in the entire trilogy.

              Have you ever seen a good film before? because sucking Yidneys circumsized dick this hard must mean you're either a cringy shill, a troll that isn't funny, or you have never watched another film before that wasn't extremely bad.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >pointing out that tfa was bad but could've easily had a half decent sequel makes you a mousecuck
                Jesus christ, I fricking hate you reactionary zoomers who can only think in pure black and white. Grow up

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a bad film can setup a good sequel
                No, no it can't. A bad film sets up bad sequels, there is no exception to this without a complete rewrite of the story/characters/lore in the sequel.

                Name a SINGLE film that sucked, but its sequel was good.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                The Mask

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Die Hard 2.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong, Die Hard 1 was great, shitty bait

                The Mask

                there was a second mask film?

                Titanic

                thanks for proving me right

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                But Die Hard 2 was shit and 3 is good, numbnuts. Get fricked.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Titanic

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                zoomers gonna zoomzoom I guess

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >something stays bad unless it's completely different
                What an asinine point.

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is that Palpatine??

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why did they change his design between movies?
    I liked the first one more.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      evil because ugly
      hows that for a snoke theory Rian?
      I mean, seeing as you had no idea yourself.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rain Johnson probably preferred him to look more le evil white man than goblin.

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why was Daisy way hotter in the 1st movie vs the 2nd and 3rd movies?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      She was younger.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        She was younger.

        But it it was only like a 3 or 4 year age difference or something

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          The wall is merciless.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            But wasnt she only like 18 in the first movie and like 21 in the 2nd one. Thats hardly much of an age difference

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              NTA
              She was 23 in 2015.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh I thought I was way older than her but I'm only 2 years older

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh dude you have a chance now!

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                No I just meant she seemed a lot younger than me when I went to see the first movie. She seemed like a teenager

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      She was younger.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why was Daisy way hotter in the 1st movie vs the 2nd and 3rd movies?
      Fat Rey is the best Rey, you're objectively wrong.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      She made like $300k or something after tfa.
      You can buy a lot of... things... with that much money.

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    written by a bunch of satans children.
    destroys good
    promotes evil as good. (Rey palpatine is the hero and survives with the perfect cover by stealing another name)

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why is Rian still praised in Hollywood after this shit?
    Because he became the centre piece of the culture war between critics and audience-goers so they had to double down to prove that they were in charge and they decided what was good, not the other way around.
    And for some reason, normies really fricking love Knives Out.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    should have made him giant for real like his hologram was in TFA

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      would have been cool

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do you go from this

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      to this

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      to this

      >How do you go from trash to more trash

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Standards are just very low these days. His other films are also shit.

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like the idea of prime Jedi and how Jedi lost their way. They should make the movies about this, not about whatever the trilogy supposed to be about.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sure, plenty of the ideas, when taken out of the context of the ST, and analysed in a vacuum, could have been interesting.
      War profiteers perpetuating the conflict, that could have been interesting. Did we explore it in any depth? No, lol.
      A Storm Trooper becoming a rebel, could have been very interesting. Was it? No.

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >single-handedly destroys a 100 year old company

  21. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder if people would have liked Rey better if she had a sexy outfit. She's very slim with small boobs though so not sure if revealing outfit would have meant much.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rey should wear spandex shorts, and nothing else.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.redgifs.com/watch/newsneakyauklet

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          She has to lose the sports bra though, because there's no underwear in space. I don't make the rules.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Women wear what are essentially headless burkhas in disney films. You cannot convince me the burkha wasn't invented and pushed by women as a means of hiding the Staceys.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      they dressed her like a homeless crackhead being spruced up for 5 seconds before filming. Literally anything would have worked better, she'd have looked great in a skintight leather outfit, and if you told her "you better workout hard cuz your body is gonna be on display, here's your chance girl", she would have done it too, with the right personal trainer to correct her femoid eating habits of nutrient deficient rabbit food and carbs.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous
  22. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    For better or worse, TLJ had vision, and I respect that. It wasn't a good movie and had a ton of moronic shit, but at least it felt like it was doing its own thing. I hate Abrams more.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I hate Abrams more
      Yeah, TLJ had some ideas and themes. TFA had nothing. I dislike pretty much everything about that movie. TROS made it retroactively even worse. Mystery boxes my ass, it's like a bad fanfiction.

  23. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    He makes good movies. Not everything he's done is good (I didn't like TLJ or Looper) but his track record is mostly pretty great.

  24. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    They picked the wrong actress for Rey.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah but this girl doesn't rim israelite producer ass for roles

  25. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Star Wars has been shit since Disney bought it and handed it to JJ Abrams. If you were onboard for TFA it just shows that you're a sheep and easy to trick. It was obvious what it was going to be with that Black jump scare stunt from the trailer.

  26. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Destroyed Disney Star Wars
    Why are we supposed to hate him again? Because he only managed to damage it but not kill it?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say he killed it as much as it can be killed (no new movies planned and reduced to the modern equivalent of straight-to-video (streaming content)). It will probably be back in 5 more years or something. It's like a slasher from the 80s; unkillable. "No one's ever really gone" was a threat.

  27. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    S: ANH
    A: ESB
    B:
    C: RotJ
    D: RS, Solo
    F: RotS, TLJ
    F-: TPM, TFA
    F--: AotC, TRoS

    Is there any other film series where you have to add extra categories of F? Holy shit Star Wars is awful.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      dont forget the ewok movies
      caravan of courage
      the battle for endor
      i watched them both and i cant tell you anything about them, they are that meh

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh yeah. I saw one of those on tv as a kid. I can't give them an honest ranking but they're probably D as far as (specifically for) kids movies go.

  28. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    This seems nice thus far.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      S1 is good simple star wars stuff, S2 gets stuck up its own ass with continuity and I didn't watch any further.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        They're probably linked, the guy combined two shows.

  29. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is so cool lol.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ah my player makes the screenshot with my color calibration so it looks like dogshit vs what I see on screen. Sad.
      Funny how much colors matter.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's because you're watching an HDR video and your player can't do HDR screenshots.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          No the screenshot is actually bt.709 sRGB gamma, but the colors are then processed through a .cube file with my display measurements.
          You get to see the srgb gamma and gamut image but with twisted colors.
          (I'm using tone-mapping)
          I have no idea how to make the player ignore the .cube.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You probably shouldn't be using a setup that complicated for funposting and general computer tasks if you can't do something as simple as tell a non-gay utility to take a screenshot for you.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Well I can take an 100% accurate screenshot but I cba to alter the script that does tone-mapping in avisynth.
              I have never bothered with screenshots via this software.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                homie why are you doing any of that on the application level unless you are editing?

  30. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine how much cooler it would've been if Snoke was a guy in practical prosthetics, it's not like his appearance is exotic enough where he HAD to be CGI

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine how much cooler it would've been if Luke hadn't been a milk slurping moron, Rey hadn't been a overpowered self-insert with no personality, and Snoke had actually had motivations

  31. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  32. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Star Wars still hasnt bounced back from it
    People blaming the garbage stage of the franchise right now on TLJ is farcical. Johnson didn't force them to make all this Disney+ shit as utterly worthless as it has been. He didn't even force JJ to make Ep 9 shit, believe it or not.
    All of it could be fixed by simply writing good films/shows and not employing talentless hacks, there is no 8 year long curse preventing this.

  33. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why is Rian still praised in Hollywood after this shit?
    because he expressed an appropriate level of pretention and disdain for the audience.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, they've been after Star Wars (and "fandom" generally) since 1977. Imagine being a member of the "ruling class" and nerds are writing "Jedi" on the census forms and doing all this obsessive autism for a movie you're responsible for producing, but didn't actually create or infuse with your politics. I can see why they hate Star Wars and a lot of other IPs and feel they need to be degraded. If you're a member of the ruling class, you want your "fan-able" IPs to fully express your programming and values, which is exactly what Disney has done to Star Wars.

  34. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I kind of appreciate Rian for crashing and burning the franchise so hard. I don't want Disney to succeed with Star Wars, Disney is fricking evil. Rian buried Star Wars so dramatically that the ST isn't even seriously entertained as canon by anyone with half a brain, and that is how I like it.

  35. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >BTFO the morons who thought TFA was good
    >ruined the franchise so badly that even midwits couldn't pretend it was good
    Pretty based tbqh

  36. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rian is fricking based.
    >Mindbroke millions of Star Wars fans
    >Destroyed gay SW reboot trilogy so badly that the third film was a guaranteed turd
    >Fricked Disney up hard and SW is yet to recover
    You can only love the guy

  37. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    a whole character for Twitter clout

  38. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why is Rian still praised in Hollywood after this shit?

    Because is killed disney star wars on purpose.

  39. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Snoke
    >ruined
    There was nothing there to ruin.

  40. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tHe FiRiSt MoViE bEiNg ShIt Is GoOd BeCaUsE tHeY cAn OnLy Go Up FrOm HeRe

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >reddit caps
      Go back to r/sequelmemes and let the adults talk.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I accept your concession shit eater.

  41. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ideological nepotism

  42. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You forgot
    >Entire B plot was completely pointless and waste of time

  43. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    TFA and JJ destroyed star wars before rian wrote anything
    Rian only raped and shidded on its corpse

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Rian defence force still trying to shill this moronic narrative

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's true though. TFA is mindnumbing.

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