>imagine a world where it's possible to meet women organically, where every woman you encounter doesn't have her face buried in her smartphone and her earbuds in
i.e. every generation in history except the one we were born into
its impossible, just as its impossible to stop teenagers from consuming weed
11 months ago
Anonymous
im swedish and weed is a lot less common here (especially where I live) so i think i'll be able to stop that from happening anyway
unless you were ironic which I wouldnt get because im autistic (as are all swedes)
>give kids smartphones because you're too lazy to parent >act like it's their fault and mock them when they become fricked up
Why are boomers like this
>zombie movie cucks: its le uh oh virus >George A Romero: basically a UFO hit a satellite and some kind of alien radioactive fallout is making people into zombies
This, Romero completely rejected the idea of an explanation and in Day of the Dead they rejected all the stupid reddit theories thirty fricking years ahead of time. >the zombies aren't a virus, parasite, bacteria, or anything you can figure out >the zombies don't rot >everyone's getting back up when they die >the zombie survival guide won't save you you're fricked
Seriously all of these people trying to "debunk" zombies miss the fricking point,.
Romero is a hack and zombies for the sake of zombies is a 13 year olds grimdark fan fiction level of bad writing. >They're zombies because......THEY JUST ARE OKAY?!
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[...] >You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? >A perfect organism. >Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility.
No. This is a Bacteriophage. It only infects bacteria.
This is AIDS, or the syndrome you get if your T-Cell count gets below a certain threshold, but the virus itself is HIV.
Viruses that infect human beings (and animals) look like picrel. Spherical because they inherit cell membranes. This gives it a way for it to bypass OUR cell membranes but the inner capsid is still the same old bacteriophage. With many adaptations.
HIV has an enzyme called reverse-transcriptase. It converts RNA to DNA. It's the ultimate boss because it cannot be cured.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If I fart on my hand, and jerk myself off, will I give myself Hepatitis?
11 months ago
Anonymous
So for those who defeated AIDS Magic Johnson style, what do they do? Just inject them with T-cells every so often?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Use that basketball moneies and spurt into 2 paper towels
11 months ago
Anonymous
>T-cells every so often?
Unironically, yes. It's funny how much monoclonal antibodies get talked about today. When I was first treating AIDS patients we used gamma globulin. Basically a new immune system. It would be on an IV drip for 8+ hours.
We had to justify to the DOH why we were using it for something that "wasn't" for HIV/AIDS. It was a long ordeal, but worth it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
How do I get rid of HPV? I've got genital warts. Not many, but they've returned after treatment for almost seven years now
11 months ago
Anonymous
You need to get those warts taken care of with liquid nitrogen. Make an appointment with a Dermatologist. You may need a referral from your Primary Care Provider.
Are you on antivirals?
There's things like Interferons as well.
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why do they do that?
Same thing as anything else. To make more of itself.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I've had them frozen off and have done it at home as well. Was never offered antivirals and it was never presented as an option when I asked.
I did however take some Russian antiviral I bought online that didn't end up working
Is interferon an injection into the wart?
11 months ago
Anonymous
You need to get those warts taken care of with liquid nitrogen. Make an appointment with a Dermatologist. You may need a referral from your Primary Care Provider.
Are you on antivirals?
There's things like Interferons as well.
[...]
Same thing as anything else. To make more of itself.
Literally just don’t think about it. Stop going to doctors and ignore it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Drink lots of water
11 months ago
Anonymous
>We had to justify to the DOH why we were using it for something that "wasn't" for HIV/AIDS. It was a long ordeal, but worth it.
>I’m so proud I lengthened the lives of junkies and high-risk behavior homosexuals at the cost to the American taxpayer
I wish there was a hell because you’d be heading there
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Not using walking corpses to test shit without legal repercussions
11 months ago
Anonymous
>It converts RNA to DNA. It's the ultimate boss because it cannot be cured.
whats the relation between the fact it converts rna to dna and that it cant be cured?
t. sciencelet
I don’t think anyone argues against the head of one of these. It’s the freaky legs that don’t make sense. Viruses cover themselves in binding domains to preferentially bind certain targets. It doesn’t make sense to build legs
kinesins and dyneins. They are so cute. They transport things to and fro on cells.
11 months ago
Anonymous
How do they know which way to go?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Lots of simple machines (or rather complex) from just lever action of things binding.
Like your cells need ATP for the myosin heads to release the contraction, not to produce the contraction. That's why when you die, your get rigor mortis.
Here top is our muscle contraction. Below is the dynein/kinesins. Same principle.
11 months ago
Anonymous
How do they know all of that but not know how to reverse aging?
11 months ago
Anonymous
We know exactly what needs done to reverse aging. There's just no chance of actually pulling it off until we have nanomachines, son. You'd need to be able to physically and directly augment the DNA in a strong majority of the cells in a person's body to reverse the natural shortening of telomeres.
11 months ago
Anonymous
My younger self wouldn't be stronger or beautiful in the slightest
11 months ago
Anonymous
those components are bio mechanicals not sentient, like a gear system
11 months ago
Anonymous
There are tiny receptor cells on the outside of cell walls called "Lumiotes" that serve as traffic lights as for when to stop and go etc.
11 months ago
Anonymous
So I’m guessing the lumiotes “signal” the stop and go message by either attracting or repelling. How do they know to say stop or go? And yes, by “know” I’m being moronicly facetious, not implying sentience,
those components are bio mechanicals not sentient, like a gear system
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, the lumiotes are programmed to send electrical signals based on the needs of the cell, this informs what those other cells should get from the store so to speak
11 months ago
Anonymous
But where does that programming come from? Another mechanism to be sure, I assume there is a lumiote equivalent that sends signals to the lumiotes themselves.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It comes from chain reactions, essentially. It emerges from nature. At its basest form its simply a chemical reaction. Like mixing peroxide and vinegar. You're asking a pretty much unanswerable question. "Why" at its most basic level has no answer. There is no "why", but we have the ability to form our own "because" as human beings via our mental framework. The truth in its purest form is actually unimaginable. You have to accept that limitation. Short answer, no one knows.
11 months ago
Anonymous
This is where that anon's programming metaphor falls apart. It's not programmed, in the same way that a rock isn't programmed to fall to Earth when you drop it. At the most basic levels, the mechanisms of cells are simply physics. Imbalances of electrolytes (in reference to the balance that a cell likes) can directly cause an electrical signal, or it can cause osmosis through entropy.
At this point, you could think of it as being engineered instead of programmed. No one programs a towel to absorb water; when you're making the towel, you simply pick a material that is innately absorbent.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Agreed of course, but that isn’t much more of an explanation than his. Rocks fall due to gravity, break apart into sand, even individual atoms. Other forces come into play, attracting and repelling the particles. This happens constantly, everywhere. Certain rocks have certain properties, and join together with certain other rocks in specific ways according to those properties, and eventually all these interactions result in a molecule. Repeat on a far more complex level and these molecules become a cell, not just rocks mixed with other rocks, but an active and functioning machine with programming and a purpose. But the actual mechanism of molecule to cell is not just unknown, it’s nonsensical. I don’t really have a point here, obviously it’s beyond us currently but there is some process, but it’s fricking insane. I know this all sounds like I’m talking about god but I’m not, just the wonder of nature and insignificance of human intelligence maybe.
11 months ago
Anonymous
reminds me of when some neuroscientist showed that inserting a tiny thing that was some sort of lantern in a certain part of the brain lowed the rate or intensity of epilepsia episodes or bipolar disorder symptoms or something
light/summerchads won
wintercels on suicidewatch
11 months ago
Anonymous
Happiness.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Osmosis Jones IRL
11 months ago
Anonymous
what am i looking at?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I think it's the replication of DNA, that pimp walking thing is reading the DNA I believe. Could be wrong, but I vaguely remember something like this from biology in college.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Man it's crazy that we are basically bio machines. I hope one day we get an understanding of how consciousness/self awareness is formed in our youth
11 months ago
Anonymous
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Frick that, what the frick, how is any of this shit possible, a rock isn’t going to suddenly not be a rock after a billion years it’s fricking insane. Frickers walking around in my body what the frick.
Kek when Creationistgays don't know about this shit and think a bunch of atoms can't randomly form life, not knowing atoms are more like impossibly small magnetic Lego bricks being constantly mixed by Brownian Motion into an infinitude of combinations.
Then you show them something like this and they try to pull the 'complexity' of God's creation bullshit on that. You literally can't make this shit any simpler, and hard to notice God doesn't include any special magic components in life that don't exist outside of living things.
Maybe there is a God, and some other explanation for the existence of life, but evolution is hardly difficult to believe when you know anything about how this shit works. It's a reasonable conclusion to draw from the available evidence, and I'm tired of them pretending it's not.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Complaining about creationists in 2023
You dropped your fedora from 2009, good sir
Why do you do what you do? Why do you put things in your mouth and swallow them? To live? Why do you want to do that? No real overarching reason other than you're programmed to do it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Fricking moron. He has a complex biochemical system composed of billions of specialized cells at work, that fricking thing has like a dozen molecules held together by cum.
11 months ago
Anonymous
And? You're a superstructure of those little things. There are unicellular organisms that act pretty much the same. You're just a big cell mecha. We're driven by the same programming either way. Why not just wither and die?
11 months ago
Anonymous
If you were meant to only wither and die you would never have come into existence in the first place. PRAISE ALLAH.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Right and same goes for the virus. Thank "Allah" he made all those viruses to infect you.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I praise him for all except (You). You are not in on it. You are alone. Isolated. In the dark forever and ever because you are too afraid to let the light in and see how filthy you really are.
>organism >no criteria for being alive other than it reproduces
Sooooo…. what is it? My ignorant c**t white guilt elementary school science teacher sure as shit had no idea and apparently no one else does and for some reason doesn’t think it’s a big deal…..?
It's life, scientists who deny that are nitpicky pedantic c**ts, but of course this comes with the job description.
It doesn’t eat or respirate or any of that shit, just kills and replicates. And also it looks like a fricking robot lmao. Cells look like cells, amorphous blobs, this thing looks like a tiny space ship……
11 months ago
Anonymous
You look like a tiny space ship gay. Even if we did look like spaceships it would be better than you.
11 months ago
Anonymous
seethe more, that'll win the argument, pig-brain
11 months ago
Anonymous
>blob that uses minerals... le good! >dodecahedron that uses blobs... le bad!
Frick that, what the frick, how is any of this shit possible, a rock isn’t going to suddenly not be a rock after a billion years it’s fricking insane. Frickers walking around in my body what the frick.
Yeah but they seldom turn into fricking squirrels.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Where do you think the calcium that comes from the milk in squirrel breasts comes from?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Calcium turning into calcium doesn’t shock me, anon.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Don't be obtuse, you know where I'm going with this. Minerals become part of living creatures all the time.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Calcium turning into calcium doesn’t shock me, anon.
Easy misinterpretation. I'm not him but I think he was saying the element. Which does stay the same. But the mineral, that can deposit itself into bone like hydroxyapatite.
11 months ago
Anonymous
But they don’t turn into living creatures. The calcium in that squirrel’s breasts comes from… calcium. From a rock. I’m dumbing down my discourse for comedic effect here but surely you see my point. At some point ROCKS, as in elements, became cells. And that shit is fricking insane. Even more insane that everything we are is based on it, and we have no clue how it happened, and, as far as we can tell, it doesn’t happen anymore. If that doesn’t blow your fricking mind and make you say what the frick then frick you.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're trying your best to sound like you know what you're talking about, but you clearly don't. Just the other day I formed a golem from stones and he has smited all my enemies. So if you want to pretend like my first hand experience with Shteyner never happened, fine, but that won't make you correct.
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
I bow, golems are indeed rad despite being pretty fricking israeli
11 months ago
Anonymous
The concept you're talking about is called "abiogenesis".
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sure. Giving it a name might comfort you I suppose, but it has no bearing on my point.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Just giving you and others an avenue to look into because I agree it's very interesting.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I was needlessly harsh, my bad. Just joking around but I always appreciate somebody adding a little knowledge.
11 months ago
Anonymous
have you read the experiment they say proved that life can arise from a primordial soup being hit by lightning? It is shit. homosexual had to put a trap to separate the molecukes from the soup as it would have desolved inmediately. And the few molecules that were formed were mostly junk. They can't explain it, anon. They are just religious nuts who believe the universe created itself, just because, and then life starded by itself, just because, and it all fixes itself with billions of years
11 months ago
Anonymous
We'll figure it out eventually, just like everything else we've figured out through experimentation and curiosity. For an example related to your post, we figured out how lightning works and realized it wasn't gods throwing them because they were angry with us.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Interesting example you chose there, as though the simple nature of lightning is thought to be understood fairly well, i.e. electrostatic discharges between sufficient potential differences, very little is known beyond that. So you laugh at people thinking a deity tosses the bolts, but you have no idea yourself.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>So you laugh at people thinking a deity tosses the bolts, but you have no idea yourself.
It's possible to disprove an explanation without having a complete explanation of your own. If you tell me that visible pixies physically fly over your lawn to spread dew on the grass I can set up cameras to see if any pixies show up and prove that the dew appears with no pixies in sight. I don't have to know what actually causes the dew to appear in order to confidently say it's not spread on the grass by pixies.
11 months ago
Anonymous
But I was never arguing deities were hurling the lightning. I was pointing out how despite your belittlement of that conclusion, you fail to produce your own explanation. Which is fine, that isn’t really the discussion. The point isn’t whether these processes are “magical” or not, it’s the initial complexity of them being awe inspiring.
11 months ago
Anonymous
> I was pointing out how despite your belittlement of that conclusion, you fail to produce your own explanation.
There's nothing there. That's a nothing thing. You've pointed out and achieved nothing. It remains big-dicked and fact-pilled to laugh at god-tards.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>We'll figure it out eventually
thanks, I also missed that one >billions of years >infinite universes, so it was bound to happen in one >random mutations >we'll figure it our eventually
brilliant
11 months ago
Anonymous
We can't figure out things from our own body that takes a study a time larger than our lifespan.
We can't figure out an exercise plan anon. We just "do exercise" randomly with made up metrics, 10 years ago HIIT training was the shit, now it's functional training, in 10 tears will be something else
11 months ago
Anonymous
They don't "believe" it, it's the best working theory, cause "Goddidit" is an abysmal shit-tier failure of a theory with no grounding whatsoever. At least primordial soupers have the proof of biology and chemistry existing and taking place as a theoretical basis. We can do those in our bedrooms. I can frick a chick and make life. I can't say bloody mary three times in the bathroom and make Jesus appear lol.
These guys are far older than humans, and go all the way back to the foundations of eukaryotes. All humans are just gattai'd flesh mechs made up of trillions of cells, all cooperating as one organism. Everything looks "weird" to you at the cellular level, because your eyes are too large to detect them. And your very eyes are made up of these things.
I get all that. I do. But I’m talking about fricking rocks. I have no problem with little cells making lots of other cells and ganging up into big old fricking truck driving cells. My problem is rocks randomly turning into those cells.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Rocks do not "randomly turn into" cells, they all stem from a common ancestor of unknown origin.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Grand pappy rock? Which came first, the rock or the rock egg?
11 months ago
Anonymous
The rock, decidedly. A space rock at that.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>they all stem from a common ancestor of unknown origin
Abiogenesis is pretty intensely studied and most scientists today agree life as we know it probably originated around oceanic hot vents as simple hydrocarbons, which there is fossil evidence for.
11 months ago
Anonymous
So obviously they must have observed it happening and can explain the process. Surely they wouldn’t make such a bold claim otherwise.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>bold claim
Anon, it's is all just a "probably". Their best guess based on what they know so far.
Plus I'd imagine it's a little harder to look for the birth of life around volcanic vents these days since life has already been born.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>since life has already been born.
Uh huh. Because once the rocks ticked that off the list they retired. Gotcha.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You never know anon. Some say the rocks are conscious already. They’re watching you.
>a rock isn’t going to suddenly not be a rock after a billion years >planet gets smashed by asteroid or comet or some shit >stone from the planet sent into sun >sun vaporizes stone, elements get added to nuclear furnace >billions and billions of science things happen a second >stone's elements get expelled >eventually picked up by a comet or some shit >smashed into another planet >water + Sun forged molecules = building blocks of life >rock's elements have become a protozoa or some shit
bacteria >basic building blocks of life >is "alive" in every sense of the word >canonically has a soul albeit infinitesimally small
viruses >literally just code >robotic, autonomous replicator >utterly devoid of soul
In conclusion: kill all viruses.
they don't. If you actually read the primary literature you can see that they have never demonstrated that any of the particles they call viruses can replicate nor cause disease, which is the definition of a virus, therefore they don't exist. Even former virologists have rejected their career to come forward and say >it is all fake and gay >their own literature, their own studies prove how wrong they are
they don't. If you actually read the primary literature you can see that they have never demonstrated that any of the particles they call viruses can replicate nor cause disease, which is the definition of a virus, therefore they don't exist. Even former virologists have rejected their career to come forward and say >it is all fake and gay >their own literature, their own studies prove how wrong they are
Based. Shit like so called ebola is just an excess of bad humors easily remedied by leeching anyways.
look, the shills are already seething. As usual they don't have any arguments, just strawmans. Don't worry, homosexual, the npcs are too morone... sorry, busy, to see for themselves anyway
Here's a Nature paper establishing the SARS virus as the infectious agent responsible for SARS according to Koch's postulates, proving your original claim is invalid.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7095368/
You're mentally ill.
I've read that, but it is obvious you haven't . Read the studies they quote, moron. They didn't do a single thing they claim to have done.
The first four studies they cite, which they claim isolated the virua, didn't isolate anything >Viruses were isolated on fetal rhesus kidney cells from the lung biopsy and nasopharyngeal aspirate, respectively, of these two patients. The initial cytopathic effect noted was the appearance of rounded refractile cells appearing 2–4 days after inoculation. The cytopathic effect did not progress in the initial culture tubes but on subsequent passage, and appeared in 24 h. The two virus isolates...
Classic, no filtration nor ultracentrifugation.
You were just seething so hard you looked on google for any study, read the title and said >aha, explain this, moron!
But you didn't even read the quotations. You didn't read even the introduction, because then you would see the title is a lie, as they didn't even use Koch's postulates, but Rivers criteria, which is inferior. And even then, they didn't fulfill a single one of the criteria. This isn't my fist time seeing this seething, anon.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm curious why it's important to you that viruses don't exist. It's not about the truth of that fact (I'm granting this for the sake of argument), but something that logically results down the line >If viruses exist >Then ____ is justified/necessitated/supported >And _____ is precluded/unjustified/opposed
And if they don't exist, the two logical consequences there are reversed. What goes in those blanks for you, anon? Is it something like >They say this illness is cause by a virus, which is cured by X >But actually Y cures it, meaning it's not the so-called virus causing it >"They" suppress Y because it's not profitable/it's Jesus/etc., and thus the need for the fake virus cover story
Something like that?
Yeah, but now we call it therapeutic phlebotomy so it's very enlightened and scientific, not like that barbaric bloodletting from the dark ages!
11 months ago
Anonymous
No. We call it Venesection moron.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Different term for the same thing.
https://hemochromatosishelp.com/therapeutic-phlebotomy/ >In hemochromatosis, therapeutic phlebotomy is a procedure that removes blood from a person’s body with the specific goal of reducing iron overload. >Therapeutic phlebotomy involves the same procedure as blood donation; the primary difference is how often we give blood. Phlebotomy (aka venesection) may be recommended quite frequently for a person who has just been diagnosed with iron overload, especially if their ferritin levels are significantly elevated.
they don't. If you actually read the primary literature you can see that they have never demonstrated that any of the particles they call viruses can replicate nor cause disease, which is the definition of a virus, therefore they don't exist. Even former virologists have rejected their career to come forward and say >it is all fake and gay >their own literature, their own studies prove how wrong they are
>If you actually read the primary literature
You haven't read anything.
I've literally replicated viruses myself. You're a homosexual and a moron, anon, and you should work on that.
and how do you know what I have read or haven't? Are some sort of psychic? >I've literally replicated viruses myself
describe the process, then. I already know what you call "replication" but I want to laugh a little bit to your moronation
It's illegal for you to own a microscope, so if you did and saw there were no viruses, I could arrest you. I am a cop and exposing this from the inside.
They're way too small for an optical microscope, though technologies like helium-ion microscopy do enable some great shots of things like bacteriophages.
As a layman this has been a fantastic thread. Thanks for the knowledge anons.
a star doest have 5 or 6 points either, give them a break, there doing the best with what they have.
Agreed of course, but that isn’t much more of an explanation than his. Rocks fall due to gravity, break apart into sand, even individual atoms. Other forces come into play, attracting and repelling the particles. This happens constantly, everywhere. Certain rocks have certain properties, and join together with certain other rocks in specific ways according to those properties, and eventually all these interactions result in a molecule. Repeat on a far more complex level and these molecules become a cell, not just rocks mixed with other rocks, but an active and functioning machine with programming and a purpose. But the actual mechanism of molecule to cell is not just unknown, it’s nonsensical. I don’t really have a point here, obviously it’s beyond us currently but there is some process, but it’s fricking insane. I know this all sounds like I’m talking about god but I’m not, just the wonder of nature and insignificance of human intelligence maybe.
Its ok, they are not mutually exclusive. You can belive in god and the formation of the natural world over millennia. The bible was written by man, man is fallible, a day for a God would be far diffrent for a day of man.
the problem is, even if you saw organisms multiplicating, you still need to prove they cause disease, and that is imposible. If I remember correctly, 3 experiments were done at the time of the "spanish flu" in order to see if it was a contagious disease, caused by a bacteria, which was the idea at the time. 2 of them not one of the subjects got sick, and they tried hard to get them sick, to the point of going far beyond what is the theoretical way of spreading. In the other one some subjects got sick, but every physician who examined them agreed, it was a case of sore throat, not spanish flu. Hell, some guys allowed bats to feast on rabbits at the time when rabbies was starting to be shilled, and not one got sick. That's why they now make moronic "experiments", where they don't do what they say they do and don't prove anything at all. Then they produce a genetic sequence in silico, and cgi some scary images and animations, and that's it
Idk about all this there’s definitely a way to prove things cause disease. Get 10 healthy people and isolate a virus and give it to them. Wtf? See what happens.
You would have to isolate a virus first, and that's something that's never been done. When virologists say they "isolated" a virus they mean they took some mucous from an infected person added it to a culture of monkey kidney cells, and then poured in a bunch of toxic antibacterial and anti-fungal agents including some which are literally known to be toxic to the kidneys. They wait and see the cells break down in this toxic slurry and declare the cause of the breakdown to be viruses, then they "prove" the infectivity by taking this toxic slurry and just pouring it over more cells and watch those break down as well.
What they DON'T do is a control experiment where healthy cells are added to the same substrate of chemicals to see if the cells break down in the same way without the presence of infected mucous. Why? Because when you do that you see exactly that happen, which is something Stefan Lanka recently showed in his own control experiments. Supposed "isolation" trials in virology are a sham that don't follow the scientific method at all.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>monkey kidney cells, and then poured in a bunch of toxic antibacterial and anti-fungal agents including some which are literally known to be toxic to the kidneys
I loxve this part so much >could this nephrotoxin affect the experiment that we are doing with kidney cells? >nah, I'm sure it is fine
they really do not think, do they? they are the absolute best goyim.
Also, why the need for a culture? According to virus theory the human body is a culture. Supposedly the virus replicates so much inside the human body that virions come out of our noses, and yet, you cannot take a sample from a sick subject and isolate the virus directly from it? No, you see, you need to cultivate it, because it is too little to see. So it is so little you cannot see it, but it is so much viral load that infects someone else. They are seriously saying >an invisible, but totally real agent made you sick
They are bold, gotta give them that. And moronic
I mean, go for it. See what happens. You would be the first to do such a thing. I would be glad to see someone actually do it, so everyone can see how fake it all is. But, alas, it has never been done. Look at the primary sources. All those studies that claim to have isolated a virus? No filtration, no ultracentrifugation. It gets so ridiculous they have to place little arrows, like a shitty horror thumbnail, to show the supposed "viruses" in the non-isolated, non-purified broth that they put under the electron microscope. There was a study during the whole covid fiasco where they claimed to do what you say, but with monkeys. The study started >we took the isolated virus...
but wait, how did you isolate the virus? whoops, we are not telling you. They didn't even provide a footnote of the isolation process. Then they took this, thing, and exposed the monkeys (do not remember the procedure for this. Sometimes they inject the animals in the brain, you know, how contagion works in nature), and some of them got sick. Oops, no control experiment as well. And the sample was like 5. So, please, do the experiment. It is sickening seeing what they call "proof"
>2 of them not one of the subjects got sick, and they tried hard to get them sick, to the point of going far beyond what is the theoretical way of spreading. In the other one some subjects got sick, but every physician who examined them agreed, it was a case of sore throat, not spanish flu.
It's a fascinating read for sure: https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/idx/f/flu/3750flu.0016.573/1/--experiments-upon-volunteers-to-determine-the-cause-and-mode?rgn=subject;view=image;q1=virology
They had people literally drinking sputum from the severely ill and no one got sick with the supposedly highly-contagious flu.
I'm actually saving all studies, just in case. A while ago some homosexual wrote an article debunking some famous no-virus doctor. This moron had to talk about these experiments, as said doctor mentioned them, and he actually, unironically, seriously said >this study doesn't exist
I was baffled. How brainwashed you have to be? How demoralized in order to deny reality itself? So, yeah, now I save everything.
Also, don't you love how they first said it was contagious, told everyone to stay at home and wear the mask, and then some doocters were like >welp, time to actually if this shit is contagious
homie, what? That was the first thing you had to do!
Still not as bad as covid. The first study doesn't even show that there's a new disease >some homies have pneumonia >this is a new disease caused by a new virus, and we are the first ones to isolate it >now gib
lunacy
Shit's wacky. Epidemiological and physiological studies on viral diseases just don't play well together. I remember reading some rule that like 12% of a population just can't get sick from a particular variant. Then there's stuff like phylogenetics showing that omicron should be older than alpha, and if it was, it might explain why many Asian countries didn't really ride the first covid waves.
It seems like there's some big piece of the puzzle missing, and I can see why there's a case for viruses doesn't real.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Just wait until you look into how PCR tests "confirm" the presence of a virus in your system by getting an 80% match on DNA sequences that a computer stitches together. Mind you, the difference between the DNA sequence of a human and one of a chimpanzee is, what, 2%? but apparently if you can find 50-80% of a supposed virus DNA sequence that proves with complete certainty that the supposed virus was found in you and it couldn't possibly be a DNA sequence for any other thing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
hey, look someone uploaded the video tp youtube. Look at how much they have to distort it so it doesn't get deleted inmediately
Kary Mullis, anons. Inventor of PCR, telling you PCR is not a diagnosis tool. Shame he died early 2019, he would have loved covid
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Then there's stuff like phylogenetics
you really need to read the studies. All genetic sequences are made in silico. What do they sequence in the first place? They sequence the broth that is made as this anon explains
You would have to isolate a virus first, and that's something that's never been done. When virologists say they "isolated" a virus they mean they took some mucous from an infected person added it to a culture of monkey kidney cells, and then poured in a bunch of toxic antibacterial and anti-fungal agents including some which are literally known to be toxic to the kidneys. They wait and see the cells break down in this toxic slurry and declare the cause of the breakdown to be viruses, then they "prove" the infectivity by taking this toxic slurry and just pouring it over more cells and watch those break down as well.
What they DON'T do is a control experiment where healthy cells are added to the same substrate of chemicals to see if the cells break down in the same way without the presence of infected mucous. Why? Because when you do that you see exactly that happen, which is something Stefan Lanka recently showed in his own control experiments. Supposed "isolation" trials in virology are a sham that don't follow the scientific method at all.
so they pass that through the machine, get a bunch of rubbish, obviously, and then make the computer make simulations, and reconstructions of all the junk into a sequences that resembles known viral sequences. And how did they get those sequences? I think you can guess the rest
>have actual electron microscope footage of viruses infecting cells, multiplying in those cells, then those cells rupture unleashing more viruses >some tinfoil fgt on Cinemaphile says it's all fake n gay
We have electron microscope PHOTOS of cells breaking down and generating nondescript debris in the presence of a toxic substrate. Stefan Lanka already proved that if you do a proper control and put healthy cells into the same substrate without any material from a sick individual you can observe the exact same cytopathic effects and cell debris as the cells break down in the toxic environment without any viruses to blame.
do you also think ribosomes, DNA, RNA don't exist either? because virus is just a protein with a nucleic acid in it that hijacks your body's machinery to produce more proteins
great book. But again, as I've said, they don't want to learn. They are too busy. It is indeed as it is said. There are those who know, those who will know as they are taught, and those who will never know. Sadly, the vast majority of people is in the third category. Just look at
>Read "schizo nonsense" by "some schizo"
I'm good.
I just hope some of them are getting paid and not doing it for free
never understood this character
if he hates the matrix so much why didn't he just ally himself with the oracle or hook up with some of the human allied exiles
Mortimer's got that calm, nonchalant, matter of fact way to him that just screams he's the best, he knows it, and he's going to have no trouble proving it. Mortimer's going the distance.
Who gives a frick about zombies you idiot we’re talking about viruses.
They stop rotting at some point after re-animation, their muscles gain energy from some unknown source and continue to function even in the absence of all sustenance. The scientists in the movies go over all of this, redditers just don't pay attention in their haste to prove their intelligence to randoms on the internet. >but that doesn't make any sense!
no shit, it's a horror movie, asking how that works is like asking how dracula turns into a bat, he just does
Look, I agree with you all. It's just annoying that the film attempts to explain natural reasons for it happening instead of paranormal means. A zombie virus makes no sense.
28 Days Later is a top tier kino. It's completely feasible that some bio-weapon meant to destabilize populations completely leaks more so than "haunted graveyard". gay.
11 months ago
Anonymous
That’s just super-rabies though. They’re never dead when active, they starve to death in the fricking movie actually.
They stop rotting at some point after re-animation, their muscles gain energy from some unknown source and continue to function even in the absence of all sustenance. The scientists in the movies go over all of this, redditers just don't pay attention in their haste to prove their intelligence to randoms on the internet. >but that doesn't make any sense!
no shit, it's a horror movie, asking how that works is like asking how dracula turns into a bat, he just does
it was in the "I am legend" novel. Because at the time that was the thing to be scared of. Now viruses are the thing to be scared of, so all media talks about viruses, so when it "happens" people will inmediately believe >look, just like in the movies
If they abandon "viruses" (sure thing) and start putting more attention to, let's say, "prions", then all media will talk about prions
>UMMM VIRUSES? >THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN DEBUNKED THROUGH THE AWESOME POWER OF SCIENCE, THEY'RE NOT REAL >NOW STOP THIS FUN THREAD ABOUT MURDEROUS MICROSCOPIC AUTOMATONS, IT'S NOT SCIENTIFICALLY ACCURATE
>Aliens become mainstream again this year >Nothing comes out of the Grusch stuff >grad student gets creative and makes this shit up >others confirm its accurate but yet again it's nothing tangible
So what are all these anons saying when they mean you viruses cant be real?
How is a virus not going on with covid, sars, zika, ebola? Clearly there's some submicroscopic infection happening making you get sick with symptoms similar to the other infected
>How's a virus not going on with scurvy, rickets? Clearly there's some submicroscopic infection happening making you get sick with symptoms similar to the other infected
those anons have /misc/ brainrot
pay them no mind
viruses are real and very interesting
no one knows what the frick they are because of how complex they are in the sense there are like 6000000 gorillion different types and they mutate all the time
who knows, they suffer from a brain virus called /misc/ brainrot. like if viruses aren't real, then why and how do people get sick, and why does said sickness spread? ayys targeting us with space lasers? israeli witchcraft?
nothing non-scientific about what anon said
science operates postulating stuff and when it explains multiple phenomena it claims it "exists" or its a fact
but that statement doesnt have to necessarily be taken in a realist sense, which, imo, is the moronic stance
right about the time the western world locked down entire countries over a virus with a very high survival rate
while also letting unchecked illegal immigration flow across the borders
Fun fact: you can negotiate with individual US states and Joe Biden can't do shit. UK government has already signed agreements with Indiana, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Utah. And is in negotiations with California and Texas.
Nanobots will allow human hacking within our lifetimes, effectively creating zombies
Smartphones beat it to the punch.
boomer type humopr
The best kind of humor.
>imagine a world where it's possible to meet women organically, where every woman you encounter doesn't have her face buried in her smartphone and her earbuds in
i.e. every generation in history except the one we were born into
Learn to meet women at events and locations where the smartphone thing doesn't happen.
Well, depending on his age, his point stands
If he's 20 he literally can only imagine it as we are never, ever, going to backtrack from phones
Woah...
that fricking stupid comic
why give smartphones to toddlers?
my daughter just got her first smartphone and she is 12.
>12
Its over anon, the internet has her now
what have i done
>your dad hangs out on Cinemaphile
grim. dreary.
its a brave new world
congrats, she'll now get brainwashed into being yet another sociopathic attention-seeking vapid b***h
i guess thats how women are nowadays
its not like I could have shielded her from it forever
lmao you didnt even try to think of a solution, stop kidding yourself
i mean we are separated so i only have her half the time, theres only so much I can do
damn, poor fricking kid
i guess. i did what I could. I dont think her life is that bad.
people shouldnt have access to the internet until they are like 25 y/o or whatever age it is when your brain is fully developed imo
sure but how do you ensure that realistically?
its impossible, just as its impossible to stop teenagers from consuming weed
im swedish and weed is a lot less common here (especially where I live) so i think i'll be able to stop that from happening anyway
unless you were ironic which I wouldnt get because im autistic (as are all swedes)
>12
it's fricking over homie, it aint never been more over than it is now, just pack ur shit up its over. everyone go home its over, its all over...
He ded huh?
he dont swim so gud
So what I wonder is: was there just some dude filming from the shore, day after day, keeping his camera pointed at "Likelies"?
>Sit down on couch
>Put on show
>Say "I'm watching zombies again." out loud to my wife next to me
me too
>give kids smartphones because you're too lazy to parent
>act like it's their fault and mock them when they become fricked up
Why are boomers like this
>"I'm watching pokemon creatures again"
>zombie movie cucks: its le uh oh virus
>George A Romero: basically a UFO hit a satellite and some kind of alien radioactive fallout is making people into zombies
This, Romero completely rejected the idea of an explanation and in Day of the Dead they rejected all the stupid reddit theories thirty fricking years ahead of time.
>the zombies aren't a virus, parasite, bacteria, or anything you can figure out
>the zombies don't rot
>everyone's getting back up when they die
>the zombie survival guide won't save you you're fricked
Seriously all of these people trying to "debunk" zombies miss the fricking point,.
its religious or spiritual in nature
it's socioeconomic factors chud, stop trying to find a fault in them
it's cultural shift, it's their time
Romero is a hack and zombies for the sake of zombies is a 13 year olds grimdark fan fiction level of bad writing.
>They're zombies because......THEY JUST ARE OKAY?!
>sciencecuck seething now that everyone hates his science cult
There is not enough room in Hell.
Why do they look like chip's challenge enemies.
because you're fighting computer fviruses in chips, aren't you?
Didn't we already see these guys in Metroid Prime 2?
Bacteriophages. More like BacteriogayS.
Why do they look so weird?
>You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you?
>A perfect organism.
>Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility.
Real answer: The icosahedral shape is extremely stable when storing something extremely important: DNA.
The diagram will make the Alien reference I made make sense.
Wrong image.
Is this AIDS??
No. This is a Bacteriophage. It only infects bacteria.
This is AIDS, or the syndrome you get if your T-Cell count gets below a certain threshold, but the virus itself is HIV.
Viruses that infect human beings (and animals) look like picrel. Spherical because they inherit cell membranes. This gives it a way for it to bypass OUR cell membranes but the inner capsid is still the same old bacteriophage. With many adaptations.
HIV has an enzyme called reverse-transcriptase. It converts RNA to DNA. It's the ultimate boss because it cannot be cured.
If I fart on my hand, and jerk myself off, will I give myself Hepatitis?
So for those who defeated AIDS Magic Johnson style, what do they do? Just inject them with T-cells every so often?
Use that basketball moneies and spurt into 2 paper towels
>T-cells every so often?
Unironically, yes. It's funny how much monoclonal antibodies get talked about today. When I was first treating AIDS patients we used gamma globulin. Basically a new immune system. It would be on an IV drip for 8+ hours.
We had to justify to the DOH why we were using it for something that "wasn't" for HIV/AIDS. It was a long ordeal, but worth it.
How do I get rid of HPV? I've got genital warts. Not many, but they've returned after treatment for almost seven years now
You need to get those warts taken care of with liquid nitrogen. Make an appointment with a Dermatologist. You may need a referral from your Primary Care Provider.
Are you on antivirals?
There's things like Interferons as well.
Same thing as anything else. To make more of itself.
Yeah, I've had them frozen off and have done it at home as well. Was never offered antivirals and it was never presented as an option when I asked.
I did however take some Russian antiviral I bought online that didn't end up working
Is interferon an injection into the wart?
Yes, it is into the wart.
https://www.pnrjournal.com/index.php/home/article/download/7903/10503
Here's a shortened version:
https://nyulangone.org/conditions/human-papillomavirus/treatments/medications-for-human-papillomavirus#:~:text=Podofilox,until%20the%20warts%20go%20away.
If you want something you can take, systemic immunotherapy.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jocd.15330
BTW, picrel of my notes on the
matter.
Literally just don’t think about it. Stop going to doctors and ignore it.
Drink lots of water
>We had to justify to the DOH why we were using it for something that "wasn't" for HIV/AIDS. It was a long ordeal, but worth it.
>I’m so proud I lengthened the lives of junkies and high-risk behavior homosexuals at the cost to the American taxpayer
I wish there was a hell because you’d be heading there
>Not using walking corpses to test shit without legal repercussions
>It converts RNA to DNA. It's the ultimate boss because it cannot be cured.
whats the relation between the fact it converts rna to dna and that it cant be cured?
t. sciencelet
I don’t think anyone argues against the head of one of these. It’s the freaky legs that don’t make sense. Viruses cover themselves in binding domains to preferentially bind certain targets. It doesn’t make sense to build legs
Ain’t no point in life if you caint strut.
What’s that?
me swaggin on you with my fresh kicks
kinesins and dyneins. They are so cute. They transport things to and fro on cells.
How do they know which way to go?
Lots of simple machines (or rather complex) from just lever action of things binding.
Like your cells need ATP for the myosin heads to release the contraction, not to produce the contraction. That's why when you die, your get rigor mortis.
Here top is our muscle contraction. Below is the dynein/kinesins. Same principle.
How do they know all of that but not know how to reverse aging?
We know exactly what needs done to reverse aging. There's just no chance of actually pulling it off until we have nanomachines, son. You'd need to be able to physically and directly augment the DNA in a strong majority of the cells in a person's body to reverse the natural shortening of telomeres.
My younger self wouldn't be stronger or beautiful in the slightest
those components are bio mechanicals not sentient, like a gear system
There are tiny receptor cells on the outside of cell walls called "Lumiotes" that serve as traffic lights as for when to stop and go etc.
So I’m guessing the lumiotes “signal” the stop and go message by either attracting or repelling. How do they know to say stop or go? And yes, by “know” I’m being moronicly facetious, not implying sentience,
Yes, the lumiotes are programmed to send electrical signals based on the needs of the cell, this informs what those other cells should get from the store so to speak
But where does that programming come from? Another mechanism to be sure, I assume there is a lumiote equivalent that sends signals to the lumiotes themselves.
It comes from chain reactions, essentially. It emerges from nature. At its basest form its simply a chemical reaction. Like mixing peroxide and vinegar. You're asking a pretty much unanswerable question. "Why" at its most basic level has no answer. There is no "why", but we have the ability to form our own "because" as human beings via our mental framework. The truth in its purest form is actually unimaginable. You have to accept that limitation. Short answer, no one knows.
This is where that anon's programming metaphor falls apart. It's not programmed, in the same way that a rock isn't programmed to fall to Earth when you drop it. At the most basic levels, the mechanisms of cells are simply physics. Imbalances of electrolytes (in reference to the balance that a cell likes) can directly cause an electrical signal, or it can cause osmosis through entropy.
At this point, you could think of it as being engineered instead of programmed. No one programs a towel to absorb water; when you're making the towel, you simply pick a material that is innately absorbent.
Agreed of course, but that isn’t much more of an explanation than his. Rocks fall due to gravity, break apart into sand, even individual atoms. Other forces come into play, attracting and repelling the particles. This happens constantly, everywhere. Certain rocks have certain properties, and join together with certain other rocks in specific ways according to those properties, and eventually all these interactions result in a molecule. Repeat on a far more complex level and these molecules become a cell, not just rocks mixed with other rocks, but an active and functioning machine with programming and a purpose. But the actual mechanism of molecule to cell is not just unknown, it’s nonsensical. I don’t really have a point here, obviously it’s beyond us currently but there is some process, but it’s fricking insane. I know this all sounds like I’m talking about god but I’m not, just the wonder of nature and insignificance of human intelligence maybe.
reminds me of when some neuroscientist showed that inserting a tiny thing that was some sort of lantern in a certain part of the brain lowed the rate or intensity of epilepsia episodes or bipolar disorder symptoms or something
light/summerchads won
wintercels on suicidewatch
Happiness.
Osmosis Jones IRL
what am i looking at?
I think it's the replication of DNA, that pimp walking thing is reading the DNA I believe. Could be wrong, but I vaguely remember something like this from biology in college.
Man it's crazy that we are basically bio machines. I hope one day we get an understanding of how consciousness/self awareness is formed in our youth
Kek when Creationistgays don't know about this shit and think a bunch of atoms can't randomly form life, not knowing atoms are more like impossibly small magnetic Lego bricks being constantly mixed by Brownian Motion into an infinitude of combinations.
Then you show them something like this and they try to pull the 'complexity' of God's creation bullshit on that. You literally can't make this shit any simpler, and hard to notice God doesn't include any special magic components in life that don't exist outside of living things.
Maybe there is a God, and some other explanation for the existence of life, but evolution is hardly difficult to believe when you know anything about how this shit works. It's a reasonable conclusion to draw from the available evidence, and I'm tired of them pretending it's not.
>Complaining about creationists in 2023
You dropped your fedora from 2009, good sir
intelligent design. There is a God
It's for a bacteriophage. When a virus enters anything multicellular, it takes the membrane with it. It's called exocytosis.
why do they do that?
Pure unabated malice for the living world.
he just like me fr
Why do you do what you do? Why do you put things in your mouth and swallow them? To live? Why do you want to do that? No real overarching reason other than you're programmed to do it.
Fricking moron. He has a complex biochemical system composed of billions of specialized cells at work, that fricking thing has like a dozen molecules held together by cum.
And? You're a superstructure of those little things. There are unicellular organisms that act pretty much the same. You're just a big cell mecha. We're driven by the same programming either way. Why not just wither and die?
If you were meant to only wither and die you would never have come into existence in the first place. PRAISE ALLAH.
Right and same goes for the virus. Thank "Allah" he made all those viruses to infect you.
I praise him for all except (You). You are not in on it. You are alone. Isolated. In the dark forever and ever because you are too afraid to let the light in and see how filthy you really are.
Okay
>organism
>no criteria for being alive other than it reproduces
Sooooo…. what is it? My ignorant c**t white guilt elementary school science teacher sure as shit had no idea and apparently no one else does and for some reason doesn’t think it’s a big deal…..?
Genuine, actual moron post.
It doesn’t eat or respirate or any of that shit, just kills and replicates. And also it looks like a fricking robot lmao. Cells look like cells, amorphous blobs, this thing looks like a tiny space ship……
You look like a tiny space ship gay. Even if we did look like spaceships it would be better than you.
seethe more, that'll win the argument, pig-brain
>blob that uses minerals... le good!
>dodecahedron that uses blobs... le bad!
>Sooooo…. what is it?
Something to be ruthlessly and utterly exterminated.
It's life, scientists who deny that are nitpicky pedantic c**ts, but of course this comes with the job description.
Billions and billions of years of evolution
Frick that, what the frick, how is any of this shit possible, a rock isn’t going to suddenly not be a rock after a billion years it’s fricking insane. Frickers walking around in my body what the frick.
>a rock isn’t going to suddenly not be a rock after a billion years
But anon... rocks turn into sand all the time.
Yeah but they seldom turn into fricking squirrels.
Where do you think the calcium that comes from the milk in squirrel breasts comes from?
Calcium turning into calcium doesn’t shock me, anon.
Don't be obtuse, you know where I'm going with this. Minerals become part of living creatures all the time.
Easy misinterpretation. I'm not him but I think he was saying the element. Which does stay the same. But the mineral, that can deposit itself into bone like hydroxyapatite.
But they don’t turn into living creatures. The calcium in that squirrel’s breasts comes from… calcium. From a rock. I’m dumbing down my discourse for comedic effect here but surely you see my point. At some point ROCKS, as in elements, became cells. And that shit is fricking insane. Even more insane that everything we are is based on it, and we have no clue how it happened, and, as far as we can tell, it doesn’t happen anymore. If that doesn’t blow your fricking mind and make you say what the frick then frick you.
You're trying your best to sound like you know what you're talking about, but you clearly don't. Just the other day I formed a golem from stones and he has smited all my enemies. So if you want to pretend like my first hand experience with Shteyner never happened, fine, but that won't make you correct.
I bow, golems are indeed rad despite being pretty fricking israeli
The concept you're talking about is called "abiogenesis".
Sure. Giving it a name might comfort you I suppose, but it has no bearing on my point.
Just giving you and others an avenue to look into because I agree it's very interesting.
I was needlessly harsh, my bad. Just joking around but I always appreciate somebody adding a little knowledge.
have you read the experiment they say proved that life can arise from a primordial soup being hit by lightning? It is shit. homosexual had to put a trap to separate the molecukes from the soup as it would have desolved inmediately. And the few molecules that were formed were mostly junk. They can't explain it, anon. They are just religious nuts who believe the universe created itself, just because, and then life starded by itself, just because, and it all fixes itself with billions of years
We'll figure it out eventually, just like everything else we've figured out through experimentation and curiosity. For an example related to your post, we figured out how lightning works and realized it wasn't gods throwing them because they were angry with us.
Interesting example you chose there, as though the simple nature of lightning is thought to be understood fairly well, i.e. electrostatic discharges between sufficient potential differences, very little is known beyond that. So you laugh at people thinking a deity tosses the bolts, but you have no idea yourself.
>So you laugh at people thinking a deity tosses the bolts, but you have no idea yourself.
It's possible to disprove an explanation without having a complete explanation of your own. If you tell me that visible pixies physically fly over your lawn to spread dew on the grass I can set up cameras to see if any pixies show up and prove that the dew appears with no pixies in sight. I don't have to know what actually causes the dew to appear in order to confidently say it's not spread on the grass by pixies.
But I was never arguing deities were hurling the lightning. I was pointing out how despite your belittlement of that conclusion, you fail to produce your own explanation. Which is fine, that isn’t really the discussion. The point isn’t whether these processes are “magical” or not, it’s the initial complexity of them being awe inspiring.
> I was pointing out how despite your belittlement of that conclusion, you fail to produce your own explanation.
There's nothing there. That's a nothing thing. You've pointed out and achieved nothing. It remains big-dicked and fact-pilled to laugh at god-tards.
>We'll figure it out eventually
thanks, I also missed that one
>billions of years
>infinite universes, so it was bound to happen in one
>random mutations
>we'll figure it our eventually
brilliant
We can't figure out things from our own body that takes a study a time larger than our lifespan.
We can't figure out an exercise plan anon. We just "do exercise" randomly with made up metrics, 10 years ago HIIT training was the shit, now it's functional training, in 10 tears will be something else
They don't "believe" it, it's the best working theory, cause "Goddidit" is an abysmal shit-tier failure of a theory with no grounding whatsoever. At least primordial soupers have the proof of biology and chemistry existing and taking place as a theoretical basis. We can do those in our bedrooms. I can frick a chick and make life. I can't say bloody mary three times in the bathroom and make Jesus appear lol.
These guys are far older than humans, and go all the way back to the foundations of eukaryotes. All humans are just gattai'd flesh mechs made up of trillions of cells, all cooperating as one organism. Everything looks "weird" to you at the cellular level, because your eyes are too large to detect them. And your very eyes are made up of these things.
I get all that. I do. But I’m talking about fricking rocks. I have no problem with little cells making lots of other cells and ganging up into big old fricking truck driving cells. My problem is rocks randomly turning into those cells.
Rocks do not "randomly turn into" cells, they all stem from a common ancestor of unknown origin.
Grand pappy rock? Which came first, the rock or the rock egg?
The rock, decidedly. A space rock at that.
>they all stem from a common ancestor of unknown origin
Abiogenesis is pretty intensely studied and most scientists today agree life as we know it probably originated around oceanic hot vents as simple hydrocarbons, which there is fossil evidence for.
So obviously they must have observed it happening and can explain the process. Surely they wouldn’t make such a bold claim otherwise.
>bold claim
Anon, it's is all just a "probably". Their best guess based on what they know so far.
Plus I'd imagine it's a little harder to look for the birth of life around volcanic vents these days since life has already been born.
>since life has already been born.
Uh huh. Because once the rocks ticked that off the list they retired. Gotcha.
You never know anon. Some say the rocks are conscious already. They’re watching you.
We are basically a hivemind of tiny cells doing their thing without needing to individually command them
>a rock isn’t going to suddenly not be a rock after a billion years
>planet gets smashed by asteroid or comet or some shit
>stone from the planet sent into sun
>sun vaporizes stone, elements get added to nuclear furnace
>billions and billions of science things happen a second
>stone's elements get expelled
>eventually picked up by a comet or some shit
>smashed into another planet
>water + Sun forged molecules = building blocks of life
>rock's elements have become a protozoa or some shit
this has to be bait, no way you are this moronic
That's accelerated though, you're being moronic by thinking otherwise.
Don't be racist.
cmon man don't be a bully 🙁
it's been engineered by our creators
These things were created by aliens probably thousands if not millions of years ago and made their way here somehow.
Prove me wrong.
you are wrong homie
Prove it
I already gave you a detailed proof.
You are wrong.
Proof:
You = Wrong
QED
god just look at that thick capsid
bacteria
>basic building blocks of life
>is "alive" in every sense of the word
>canonically has a soul albeit infinitesimally small
viruses
>literally just code
>robotic, autonomous replicator
>utterly devoid of soul
In conclusion: kill all viruses.
>canonically has a soul
In what canon? Jesus says no living thing other than humans has a soul.
>Jesus says
What does that hippie homosexual know anyway?
> Jesus says no living thing other than humans has a soul
As far as I’m aware he never said this
Why do viruses even exist? They don't even have any cells
they exist because they can
why can they exist?
Prions are even weirder
Because cells can be reprogrammed by viruses to create more viruses.
Doesn't answer the question of why can they exist.
God created it. What more reason do you need you godless heathen.
wanting to study the wonders of his creation is not an act of the heathen
Same reason janny trannies do?
They don't exist, there is zero proof of viruses existing.
explain the prosti giving me herpes then
We're just too careless with our kisses, anon.
Kino. Glad to see Cinemaphile isn’t quite dead
my man
Based. Shit like so called ebola is just an excess of bad humors easily remedied by leeching anyways.
look, the shills are already seething. As usual they don't have any arguments, just strawmans. Don't worry, homosexual, the npcs are too morone... sorry, busy, to see for themselves anyway
This is the thanks I get for being the only one to give you attention?
You ungrateful little toad!
Here's a Nature paper establishing the SARS virus as the infectious agent responsible for SARS according to Koch's postulates, proving your original claim is invalid.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7095368/
You're mentally ill.
Just don't respond. It's that simple.
I've read that, but it is obvious you haven't . Read the studies they quote, moron. They didn't do a single thing they claim to have done.
The first four studies they cite, which they claim isolated the virua, didn't isolate anything
>Viruses were isolated on fetal rhesus kidney cells from the lung biopsy and nasopharyngeal aspirate, respectively, of these two patients. The initial cytopathic effect noted was the appearance of rounded refractile cells appearing 2–4 days after inoculation. The cytopathic effect did not progress in the initial culture tubes but on subsequent passage, and appeared in 24 h. The two virus isolates...
Classic, no filtration nor ultracentrifugation.
You were just seething so hard you looked on google for any study, read the title and said
>aha, explain this, moron!
But you didn't even read the quotations. You didn't read even the introduction, because then you would see the title is a lie, as they didn't even use Koch's postulates, but Rivers criteria, which is inferior. And even then, they didn't fulfill a single one of the criteria. This isn't my fist time seeing this seething, anon.
I'm curious why it's important to you that viruses don't exist. It's not about the truth of that fact (I'm granting this for the sake of argument), but something that logically results down the line
>If viruses exist
>Then ____ is justified/necessitated/supported
>And _____ is precluded/unjustified/opposed
And if they don't exist, the two logical consequences there are reversed. What goes in those blanks for you, anon? Is it something like
>They say this illness is cause by a virus, which is cured by X
>But actually Y cures it, meaning it's not the so-called virus causing it
>"They" suppress Y because it's not profitable/it's Jesus/etc., and thus the need for the fake virus cover story
Something like that?
shills seething because people are waking up and not taking their "medicine". all you need to cure any disease is some gold old fashioned water!
of all archaic medical practice, I don’t get why midwits lock onto leeches so much. they were one of the few that worked
Bloodletting is actually still used today for a couple of conditions such as iron overload.
Yeah, but now we call it therapeutic phlebotomy so it's very enlightened and scientific, not like that barbaric bloodletting from the dark ages!
No. We call it Venesection moron.
Different term for the same thing.
https://hemochromatosishelp.com/therapeutic-phlebotomy/
>In hemochromatosis, therapeutic phlebotomy is a procedure that removes blood from a person’s body with the specific goal of reducing iron overload.
>Therapeutic phlebotomy involves the same procedure as blood donation; the primary difference is how often we give blood. Phlebotomy (aka venesection) may be recommended quite frequently for a person who has just been diagnosed with iron overload, especially if their ferritin levels are significantly elevated.
they don't. If you actually read the primary literature you can see that they have never demonstrated that any of the particles they call viruses can replicate nor cause disease, which is the definition of a virus, therefore they don't exist. Even former virologists have rejected their career to come forward and say
>it is all fake and gay
>their own literature, their own studies prove how wrong they are
>If you actually read the primary literature
You haven't read anything.
I've literally replicated viruses myself. You're a homosexual and a moron, anon, and you should work on that.
and how do you know what I have read or haven't? Are some sort of psychic?
>I've literally replicated viruses myself
describe the process, then. I already know what you call "replication" but I want to laugh a little bit to your moronation
replicate deez nutz science b***h
gottem!
You can’t just look in a microscope and watch them swimming around?
It's illegal for you to own a microscope, so if you did and saw there were no viruses, I could arrest you. I am a cop and exposing this from the inside.
They're way too small for an optical microscope, though technologies like helium-ion microscopy do enable some great shots of things like bacteriophages.
They don't look as geometrically perfect in these images as the artistic representations portray them.
As a layman this has been a fantastic thread. Thanks for the knowledge anons.
a star doest have 5 or 6 points either, give them a break, there doing the best with what they have.
Its ok, they are not mutually exclusive. You can belive in god and the formation of the natural world over millennia. The bible was written by man, man is fallible, a day for a God would be far diffrent for a day of man.
the problem is, even if you saw organisms multiplicating, you still need to prove they cause disease, and that is imposible. If I remember correctly, 3 experiments were done at the time of the "spanish flu" in order to see if it was a contagious disease, caused by a bacteria, which was the idea at the time. 2 of them not one of the subjects got sick, and they tried hard to get them sick, to the point of going far beyond what is the theoretical way of spreading. In the other one some subjects got sick, but every physician who examined them agreed, it was a case of sore throat, not spanish flu. Hell, some guys allowed bats to feast on rabbits at the time when rabbies was starting to be shilled, and not one got sick. That's why they now make moronic "experiments", where they don't do what they say they do and don't prove anything at all. Then they produce a genetic sequence in silico, and cgi some scary images and animations, and that's it
Idk about all this there’s definitely a way to prove things cause disease. Get 10 healthy people and isolate a virus and give it to them. Wtf? See what happens.
You would have to isolate a virus first, and that's something that's never been done. When virologists say they "isolated" a virus they mean they took some mucous from an infected person added it to a culture of monkey kidney cells, and then poured in a bunch of toxic antibacterial and anti-fungal agents including some which are literally known to be toxic to the kidneys. They wait and see the cells break down in this toxic slurry and declare the cause of the breakdown to be viruses, then they "prove" the infectivity by taking this toxic slurry and just pouring it over more cells and watch those break down as well.
What they DON'T do is a control experiment where healthy cells are added to the same substrate of chemicals to see if the cells break down in the same way without the presence of infected mucous. Why? Because when you do that you see exactly that happen, which is something Stefan Lanka recently showed in his own control experiments. Supposed "isolation" trials in virology are a sham that don't follow the scientific method at all.
>monkey kidney cells, and then poured in a bunch of toxic antibacterial and anti-fungal agents including some which are literally known to be toxic to the kidneys
I loxve this part so much
>could this nephrotoxin affect the experiment that we are doing with kidney cells?
>nah, I'm sure it is fine
they really do not think, do they? they are the absolute best goyim.
Also, why the need for a culture? According to virus theory the human body is a culture. Supposedly the virus replicates so much inside the human body that virions come out of our noses, and yet, you cannot take a sample from a sick subject and isolate the virus directly from it? No, you see, you need to cultivate it, because it is too little to see. So it is so little you cannot see it, but it is so much viral load that infects someone else. They are seriously saying
>an invisible, but totally real agent made you sick
They are bold, gotta give them that. And moronic
I mean, go for it. See what happens. You would be the first to do such a thing. I would be glad to see someone actually do it, so everyone can see how fake it all is. But, alas, it has never been done. Look at the primary sources. All those studies that claim to have isolated a virus? No filtration, no ultracentrifugation. It gets so ridiculous they have to place little arrows, like a shitty horror thumbnail, to show the supposed "viruses" in the non-isolated, non-purified broth that they put under the electron microscope. There was a study during the whole covid fiasco where they claimed to do what you say, but with monkeys. The study started
>we took the isolated virus...
but wait, how did you isolate the virus? whoops, we are not telling you. They didn't even provide a footnote of the isolation process. Then they took this, thing, and exposed the monkeys (do not remember the procedure for this. Sometimes they inject the animals in the brain, you know, how contagion works in nature), and some of them got sick. Oops, no control experiment as well. And the sample was like 5. So, please, do the experiment. It is sickening seeing what they call "proof"
>2 of them not one of the subjects got sick, and they tried hard to get them sick, to the point of going far beyond what is the theoretical way of spreading. In the other one some subjects got sick, but every physician who examined them agreed, it was a case of sore throat, not spanish flu.
It's a fascinating read for sure: https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/idx/f/flu/3750flu.0016.573/1/--experiments-upon-volunteers-to-determine-the-cause-and-mode?rgn=subject;view=image;q1=virology
They had people literally drinking sputum from the severely ill and no one got sick with the supposedly highly-contagious flu.
I'm actually saving all studies, just in case. A while ago some homosexual wrote an article debunking some famous no-virus doctor. This moron had to talk about these experiments, as said doctor mentioned them, and he actually, unironically, seriously said
>this study doesn't exist
I was baffled. How brainwashed you have to be? How demoralized in order to deny reality itself? So, yeah, now I save everything.
Also, don't you love how they first said it was contagious, told everyone to stay at home and wear the mask, and then some doocters were like
>welp, time to actually if this shit is contagious
homie, what? That was the first thing you had to do!
Still not as bad as covid. The first study doesn't even show that there's a new disease
>some homies have pneumonia
>this is a new disease caused by a new virus, and we are the first ones to isolate it
>now gib
lunacy
Shit's wacky. Epidemiological and physiological studies on viral diseases just don't play well together. I remember reading some rule that like 12% of a population just can't get sick from a particular variant. Then there's stuff like phylogenetics showing that omicron should be older than alpha, and if it was, it might explain why many Asian countries didn't really ride the first covid waves.
It seems like there's some big piece of the puzzle missing, and I can see why there's a case for viruses doesn't real.
Just wait until you look into how PCR tests "confirm" the presence of a virus in your system by getting an 80% match on DNA sequences that a computer stitches together. Mind you, the difference between the DNA sequence of a human and one of a chimpanzee is, what, 2%? but apparently if you can find 50-80% of a supposed virus DNA sequence that proves with complete certainty that the supposed virus was found in you and it couldn't possibly be a DNA sequence for any other thing.
hey, look someone uploaded the video tp youtube. Look at how much they have to distort it so it doesn't get deleted inmediately
Kary Mullis, anons. Inventor of PCR, telling you PCR is not a diagnosis tool. Shame he died early 2019, he would have loved covid
>Then there's stuff like phylogenetics
you really need to read the studies. All genetic sequences are made in silico. What do they sequence in the first place? They sequence the broth that is made as this anon explains
so they pass that through the machine, get a bunch of rubbish, obviously, and then make the computer make simulations, and reconstructions of all the junk into a sequences that resembles known viral sequences. And how did they get those sequences? I think you can guess the rest
>have actual electron microscope footage of viruses infecting cells, multiplying in those cells, then those cells rupture unleashing more viruses
>some tinfoil fgt on Cinemaphile says it's all fake n gay
>Have actual footage of thanos twerking over iron mans dead body
>some tinfoil fgt on Cinemaphile says it's all fake n gay
ah, shit. Turns out the cat dancing was real after all. Take that, homosexuals, all of you who said it was fake
kek, you have no idea what you are talking about, do you?
>electron microscope footage
this is the most absurd attempt at a comeback I have ever seen
We have electron microscope PHOTOS of cells breaking down and generating nondescript debris in the presence of a toxic substrate. Stefan Lanka already proved that if you do a proper control and put healthy cells into the same substrate without any material from a sick individual you can observe the exact same cytopathic effects and cell debris as the cells break down in the toxic environment without any viruses to blame.
control experiment? what's that? never heard of it in my life
>t. virologist
do you also think ribosomes, DNA, RNA don't exist either? because virus is just a protein with a nucleic acid in it that hijacks your body's machinery to produce more proteins
>Why do viruses even exist?
That's the best part: they don't. Read Virus Mania by Torsten Engelbrecht.
>Read "schizo nonsense" by "some schizo"
I'm good.
The truth doesn't fear investigation.
the "truth" is antisemitic
>”I won’t read schizo nonsense” he lied, as he posted on Cinemaphile.
I think that book mentioned is schizo nonsense, but kek
great book. But again, as I've said, they don't want to learn. They are too busy. It is indeed as it is said. There are those who know, those who will know as they are taught, and those who will never know. Sadly, the vast majority of people is in the third category. Just look at
I just hope some of them are getting paid and not doing it for free
viruses dont exist
Imagin a crystal that turns human flesh into itself on contact
Fungus zombies are worse. The only piece of media that did anything interesting with it was Splinter.
>take vaccine
>suddenly immune to zombie virus
How come the movies never use the real life solution?
Respect the bacteriophage
humanity is a virus
never understood this character
if he hates the matrix so much why didn't he just ally himself with the oracle or hook up with some of the human allied exiles
Did you not hear his monologue about how much he hates humans?
>it's the smell
Thanks doc
Thanks doc
I miss when zombies were undead corpses rising from their graves
I want to have sex with a giant virus cell.
https://lotus.paheal.net/_images/1575c5c0843cb53a5a6f366afebb7c42/1865132%20-%20Crocface%20Virus%20virus_cell.jpg
I knew what to expect and was still surprised
CHOOSE YOUR FIGHTER
>he doesn't pick Special G
ngmi
Famous Mortimer for me thx
Everybody Loves Ray
>ray
way she frickin' goes
MadMel "Gibson" for me.
Mortimer's got that calm, nonchalant, matter of fact way to him that just screams he's the best, he knows it, and he's going to have no trouble proving it. Mortimer's going the distance.
>Slimmy50
For me it's Simmy50
Special G and Simmy 50 linked up, replicate it or cleave it?
Never underestimate Desertfox when it's cornered
>Deimos minion
>Deimos, the Greek god of DREAD and TERROR
>Chilling next to Special G
Kek
>this is a naturally occurring life form bro
>except it’s not alive bro
So what is it? It’s a fricking machine.
its a parasitic self replicating nanomachine
its 100% not actually a form of life and i will die on this hill
It’s a literal alien nanobot, or proof humanity like Egypt or something was really advanced and SHTF and got reset, like what’s going on now…
>decomposed bodies
>the muscles function
they'd be blind and slowly crawling around
Oh my god nobody cares, homosexual.
Look, I agree with you all. It's just annoying that the film attempts to explain natural reasons for it happening instead of paranormal means. A zombie virus makes no sense.
Is “the film” in the room with us now, anon?
28 Days Later is a good example.
28 Days Later is a top tier kino. It's completely feasible that some bio-weapon meant to destabilize populations completely leaks more so than "haunted graveyard". gay.
That’s just super-rabies though. They’re never dead when active, they starve to death in the fricking movie actually.
>chooses the worst example
None of the Romero movies mention anything about a virus except in the third one where they explicitly say it's not a virus.
Who gives a frick about zombies you idiot we’re talking about viruses.
They stop rotting at some point after re-animation, their muscles gain energy from some unknown source and continue to function even in the absence of all sustenance. The scientists in the movies go over all of this, redditers just don't pay attention in their haste to prove their intelligence to randoms on the internet.
>but that doesn't make any sense!
no shit, it's a horror movie, asking how that works is like asking how dracula turns into a bat, he just does
Voodoo chads, check in.
What happened to a fricking lightning bolt striking a grave stone? That was how you made a zombie back in my day.
Nuh-huh old timer. They made zombies through voodoo.
An Solomon Grundy is still the coolest zombie by far.
Strongbadiophage
oh nooo not the dreaded bacteria-eating virus how will humanity survive this?
Humanity will survive because we are Black personcattle for the virus, they can't slaughter us all or they will die out as well.
>all these fricking scientists on Cinemaphile
Yall mother frickers lying and getting me pissed
>zombies have no internal body temperature
>live in some rural cabinet in a cold climate
>they freeze solid in place
not my problem
well we cant have it be caused by a voodoo witch doctor.
>enhances the zombie genre
Why is it never a bacteria?
it was in the "I am legend" novel. Because at the time that was the thing to be scared of. Now viruses are the thing to be scared of, so all media talks about viruses, so when it "happens" people will inmediately believe
>look, just like in the movies
If they abandon "viruses" (sure thing) and start putting more attention to, let's say, "prions", then all media will talk about prions
There is no God
>UMMM VIRUSES?
>THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN DEBUNKED THROUGH THE AWESOME POWER OF SCIENCE, THEY'RE NOT REAL
>NOW STOP THIS FUN THREAD ABOUT MURDEROUS MICROSCOPIC AUTOMATONS, IT'S NOT SCIENTIFICALLY ACCURATE
molecular biology CHADs
whats your favorite topic
Aliens
https://old.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/14rp7w9/from_the_late_2000s_to_the_mid2010s_i_worked_as_a/?sort=confidence
>Aliens become mainstream again this year
>Nothing comes out of the Grusch stuff
>grad student gets creative and makes this shit up
>others confirm its accurate but yet again it's nothing tangible
genuinely hate the "it's a virus!" crap in zombie movies and shows. Just have no explanation for why because that's not important.
So what are all these anons saying when they mean you viruses cant be real?
How is a virus not going on with covid, sars, zika, ebola? Clearly there's some submicroscopic infection happening making you get sick with symptoms similar to the other infected
>How's a virus not going on with scurvy, rickets? Clearly there's some submicroscopic infection happening making you get sick with symptoms similar to the other infected
I don't get scury hanging out with someone with scurvy, moron
You do if you’re on a ship
Those anonons are the latest crop of amerifrick conspiratards, theres no telling what new bullshit they will invent on this flat plate we call earth
Humor imbalance
those anons have /misc/ brainrot
pay them no mind
viruses are real and very interesting
no one knows what the frick they are because of how complex they are in the sense there are like 6000000 gorillion different types and they mutate all the time
who knows, they suffer from a brain virus called /misc/ brainrot. like if viruses aren't real, then why and how do people get sick, and why does said sickness spread? ayys targeting us with space lasers? israeli witchcraft?
>Viruses exist because they fill a vacant biological niche. They're an inevitability of our biology.
you consider that a scientific statement?
I mean, he also mentioned primordial soup, what can you expect?
nothing non-scientific about what anon said
science operates postulating stuff and when it explains multiple phenomena it claims it "exists" or its a fact
but that statement doesnt have to necessarily be taken in a realist sense, which, imo, is the moronic stance
This is what my dick looks like
post pics
you mean your dick is tiny af?
I love zombie films and 98% of them are dogshit
you're totally wrong OP
are viruses alive
Everithing is alive
no, thats pure lifecel cope over the fact that the inorganic dead components of reallity just mogs us in beauty and magnitude
When did this site become a haven for boomer schizos?
right about the time the western world locked down entire countries over a virus with a very high survival rate
while also letting unchecked illegal immigration flow across the borders
Chud tourist flood 2016. Co servatards are incapable of being happy and are always miserable.
Fun fact: you can negotiate with individual US states and Joe Biden can't do shit. UK government has already signed agreements with Indiana, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Utah. And is in negotiations with California and Texas.
are viruses the chads or incels of the “””living””” world? I feel like it can go either way
the ultimate chads, they've been around as long as living things have
Viruses don't actually exist: https://odysee.com/@katie.su:7/thetruthaboutsmallpox:9
lay off the booze, Satan
>Water Element Icosahedron
Age of Aquarius. Jab juice.