Eh, Libby got quite a bit of time to her. Outside of Scratch and Molly she could probably be thought of the third most focused on character. The rest though you are right about. Tammy and Quinby specifically still bother me to see get so nothing in the end. Hell, Kat and Sheela too considering they were supposed to be on the table for the spot of Molly's bestie.
For some reason, they grafted the computer hacker thing they were building up for Andrea on to her and made her an extremely integral part of the final episodes.
Andrea is literally one of Molly's 'besties' and isn't even in the finale, except for a single frame where she's looking at her phone in the background kek.
This episode proves that CGDCT improves an episodes quality and memorability by many factors. The Period Piece was by all means a bottle episode, with a shitty B-plot, and a half-assed attempt at a PSA, but its still remembered more fondly than the likes of Sunnyland (which it aired alongside IIRC) or 100% Molly McMutt.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>100% Molly McMutt.
This episode was such a huge stinker. It was the last one before a long hiatus too, and when the show came back it never had the same enthusiasm around it, on here at least. I think that's when most premiere talkback threads were entirely on /trash/.
I also remember the normies getting pissed at the VCR joke episode, which was around the same time. They killed the Cinemaphile and the reddit/twitter fanbase in a one two combo, and those were the only things keep this show's net presence alive.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, the first quarter or so of season 2 was still somewhat optimistic until the exact point that episode aired.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I feel like this was the last Disney cartoon with any noteworthy net presence at all. It was fairly small but Kiff or Moon Girl or Hailey have practically zero
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's because it was. It never got as big as them, but it did manage to catch at least some of the left over energy from frogs and owls. But every other show after couldn't even come close to getting any real energy going online. At least Hailey had a little murmurings early on. But everything else has had whispers at best. Shame since I actually quite like Moon Girl. What I'm curious about is if Phineas and Ferb is going to make and waves online or not.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It also doesnt help how Period Place and Davenports on Demand literally take place a day in universe apart from one another and after that moment Molly goes from being Andrea's friend to Andrea's advisory council because nothing about their friendship is real. In S3 it gets worse because Andrea straight up phases Molly out for that disgusting fat girl, Molly was just suppose to be the bridge to get her there.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>CGDCT
While this is certainly a powerful force, I wouldn't say The Period Piece really nails it. It just barely does the minimum and I'd call it one of the weaker of the alright segments. Obviously not as bad as some of the other ones we got but not good either. I never really got the dislike for Sunnyland. Was a good example of how Molly's endless positivity and drive can blow up in her face and was entertaining enough. Always seemed like it just came out right as people started really hating any episodes that take place primarily in one location and got a lot of hate right out of the gate doe that alone. Even though compared to some other episodes with similar limitations, it actually had a reason for it that fit the story.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
More like the opposite, it came out before there was a ton of other episodes that never left the house, but people started disliking it more retroactively after it became evident the season had an influx of bottle episodes
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You know when I hear back on that proposal they originally had about Jinx being a more prominent antagonist I always imagined how you could have had the same Ep dynamics but the context is not only different but better now that Jinx is there
Period Place now becomes an Ep where Jinx told Andrea to go spend the night at Molly's to find out where Molly lives so she can then properly threaten Scratch for ruining the Ghost Dimension and decides to go rouge saying how she's not afraid of Scratch's new Chairman position.
>Libby: We're actually inviting Andrea over to a sleepover? >Molly: Think about it. Logistically it makes sense. You can get a 2nd chance at being Andrea's friend and I can properly thank the person responsible for getting my house back >Libby: Will either of these plotlines be brought up in the Ep? >Molly: FRICK NO WHAT THE FRICK KIND OF SHOW DO YOU THINK THIS IS >Also you will never have another meaningful moment with Andrea again after this
There was a script about robots fighting in some Big Hero 6 fighting tournament and Andrea participates in that tournament to flirt with that fat girl that she likes because she learns that she's into engineering
They could totally spin this into something worthwhile. >Tournament happens, Andrea wins the whole thing, beats the fat chick in the finale >Andrea goes up to landwhale to congratulate her, instead the hog shows her true colors and is bitter/angry at Andrea for beating her >Andrea emotionally devastated that her celebrity crush turned out to be a gigantic butthole >cue to after everyone leaves, Andrea alone in the empty stadium crying >Libby swoops in
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They only do that sort of plot with male characters.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I like where your idea is headed, but unfortunately from the leaks we know that wasn't at all the direction they were going to go in.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
According to the script, Andrea gets to start her new relationship but then the camera turns to Molly because Molly interprets this experience of people she knows and are important to her leaving her life to do other things and she uses it as a coping mechanism for how is she gonna move on without scratch. Essentially the S2 ending but it would have extended a whole nother season.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Essentially the S2 ending but it would have extended a whole nother season.
There were also two more episodes about Scratch's backstory (which in Season 2 were the only episodes people consistently agreed were good) to draw out the reveal further. They were both pretty bad.
This is 'autistic representation' apparently.
Autists only defining trait is being 'somewhat good with technology'
Andrea is also autistic by this metric.
You'd have to either be genetically autistic to find attraction to Andrea's GF or autistic to even explain just how in the hell you can justify two radically different people forming a relationship together. That ship was so bad it completely made me realize that the term "opposites attract" is a bullshit claim. Even Molly would have been a better choice and it would have made sense.
She was 100% autistic, for certain. >Seethes over your name be said wrong. >Needs constant validation by strangers online >Has an uncharacteristic knack for coding
Anon thats the only in character thing about Andrea. Have you not watched literally any twitch stream in your entire life? If anything these traits about Andrea are underexaggerated and if anything would have made for great gags
I hate using it as a comparison but, look at Tweenkle from that awful Planet Ruby show. She is what Andrea should be
Real autists are offended by this character. Weaponizing autism in order to get away with saying whatever you want is fricking bullshit. It's like that episode of South Park where Cartman pretends to have tourette syndrome so he can swear and yell at people and be anti-semetic. A real autist would not be so happy about their predicament, nor would they have control over it.
Honestly Libby felt more like an autism rep than June was. June was ironically more social than Libby was, in fact from this one frame alone + Darryl she actually has the most on screen "friends". June is the autism wish fulfillment, the confident hyper genius who can get away with being a know it all, whereas Libby is the more realistic portrayal of the weird sheltered shy kid who's just a little "off" - the whole "Bloodhound of Truth" gimmick feels way more autistic than anything June does. Plus Libby has more pronounced special interests - turtles, books, history, conspiracy theories, "investigating" things. June's technological prowess is more of a punchline than an actual character trait, Libby is passionate about these things whereas June just sees hacking into every security camera in Brighton as some trivial task.
I agree with all of that and honestly a huge problem with "representation" in media in general is that writers are scared to depict the people they're claiming to represent as having any negatives for fear of offending/insulting them and creating a backlash. Which rather misses the point of genuine representation, which should be to portray them realistically.
I think represent party is scared by their reflection, many, most times it's created by someone of the same camp but still has backlash attached to it.
People are afraid to portray reality as it is in cartoons, they are afraid to talk seriously because the general public is afraid to face reality and they get very violent when you do it, there always has to be a happy ending, a joke in the end or be totally irrelevant.
The show was getting boring before he was even introduced. What he managed to do was present a romance so boring it killed off most of the shipper audience, who despite the show getting stale were still keeping the fandom somewhat active.
Sam King truly was psychotic trying to hardsell to an audience that was dead set and already long since made up their minds they were only gonna accept Molly with Libby or Molly with Andrea
So where in the absolute frick did Sam get the idea for pitching whatever the frick they had planned for Andrea. Why does she need to be obese. I totally understand the frustration of Olly being literally a one dimensional character but better your character be a wet cardboard box then whatever the frick Andrea's GF was suppose to be
It really did seem to kill the yurigay fanbase dead. I've hardly seen any shipping art of Molly with Libby or Andrea at all since it was revealed.
Yurigays are like nega-fujos.
Whereas when fujos say "I don't care about canon" they mean it, yurigays care deeply about canon, they treat their fetish less like a fetish and more like a cult.
It's why fujos will still gladly make all sorts of fujo and gay fanart of characters with confirmed female love interests while yurigays will throw a fit if a female character they shipped as gay ends up with a dude.
Its probably because canon yaoi is pretty much just not happening 99% of the time, while yurigays feels they have a better chance considering lesbian relationships in cartoons are more plausible.
But that makes no sense because canon doesn't stop anyone straight shipping lesbians, they are the only ones who seem to care about canon when it comes to shipping.
Yurigays tend to think that everyone is like them and is obsessed with canon, so they think if a female is "confirmed gay" it'll result in more yuri art and less non-yuri art.
As was previously stated, for yurigays it's less a fetish and more a cult, so everything they think, say, and do makes sense if you think of it in the context of "will this mean more yuri?"
In a way it functions a lot like a religion, and your average yurigay is a fanatic.
cause they don't like the idea of their precious lesbians touching dick
because if they have it means they have been tainted
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it means they have been tainted
And this is the main reason most of canon animated bi females are just lesbians in disguise.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
true, there are so many its basically a rule
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So they are just like male incels that dox and harass real people that makes a persona online as a VTuber when they found out that VTuber has a boyfriend irl.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>just like
Anon, they ARE those male incels.
Are you just now realizing that most yurigays are also /vt/umors and incels?
It's called validation. It's literally in every schizo autistic fandom like Sonic that needs the creators of the IP to validate their vision of the IP by making it official.
>remember the times when MLP was big, Big Mac got shipped back and fourth between Fluttershy and Cheerilee >both camps had people who unnecessarily hated the other camp >Big Mac ends up marrying a someone introduced seasons down the road
BTFO. But really, shipping can be some of the most cancerous shit.
Man i stopped at season 5, but I don't remember him getting shipped with Fluttershy, just Cheerilee. And it sucks to hear they Mordecai'd him when they got a whole valentines episode setting them up.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Oh, there were camps of BM with Shy, but I like to think they had him get with the rando just to say "Shut up". They made a bunch of fanon shit canon later on anyway, so no one had room to complain.
People watch Molly for the romance and relationships?
Anon, some peoples only interest in some cartoons is who is fricking who.
Male autism relies heavily on appeals to authority. It's why Sonic threads are always full of homosexuals shrieking about what Sega does or doesn't regard as part of this week's particular group of "approved media."
Olly is a strange character. You can tell Sam King didn't watch a single microsecond of S1 which is why S2 feels like all of the same plots that were reintroduced in S1 but either heavily abridged or told worse. It was an odd exec choice to have S2 have nothing to do with ghosts related plots only to have it revealed one season later that all Ghost plots going forward we're Olly focused meaning they were actively and deliberately phasing Molly out of her own show. Like Sam was straight up implying the 2 most important plots for Molly specifically were "spend as much time with Scratch as possible" and "Andrea getting a GF"
This shouldnt have been about ghosts from the beginning if the writers felt burnt out with the concept only 1/3 of the way in S1. If Hailey's on it can get greenlit with barely a premise involved so could this.
It really did seem to kill the yurigay fanbase dead. I've hardly seen any shipping art of Molly with Libby or Andrea at all since it was revealed.
I believe this exact thing happened to Moon Girl as well.
Why is it so hard to write male romance with females that feels believable and actually tests each other to prove they actually care that deeply for each other, like they did in the Owl House? I'd also add Starco but that apparently fricked itself by the audience reaction to it.
>like they did in the Owl House
lol, lmao
Amity lost her entire personality and goals when she fell in love with Luz. Amity as more of a "simp" than a girlfriend.
>goals
She never had any. Watch the show. Everything she "wanted" to be was actually what her mother wanted her to be. She never had her own life until Luz gave her one.
Her personality was exactly how it was when she was still friends with Willow. That's the real Amity. Not the groomed Green Haired one. If you like that one you never liked Amity in the first place.
Yeah, that's after a few episodes of anticaption wondering how will they devopled, they basically had the same Molly Ollie dynamic from the start, which I hated, but it paid off being a neutral situation of them both not being ready for romance, something I can respect.
My problem is this, many examples of this kind of shipping always has it done where they either just love each other just because they have one similar interest, which is very unrealistic to me because friendship requires far more for some reason and the other issue is when they do pair these characters up like this, there's no on screen development that shows just exactly why they care, should care and actually would do to keep caring to make their chemistry feel real and well earned. Other shows like ToH just do it better, with the exception of Raine and Eda for the exact issues I see in other ships but for some reason it's ignored completely as long as the are young lovers. Maybe I'm asking for too much, but I just want a mature and natural growth in the bond between people that genuinely shows compassion for one another, instead of this awkward and seriously dated concept of "awkward romance" we were told is normal between two different sexes for decades now.
The biggest problem of this is that it's almost exclusively a hetrosexual problem. Lesbos like Korrasami and Bubbline aren't great examples imo, but others since have been doing things far more believable and had actual effort put into making it work, or at least, feel believable that even if it wasn't canon, it feels like it could be like in Amphibia or in my case between Casey and Lunalla, where these kind of interactions and dynamics present a far more rewarding development for couples to be written as if you wanted to have said relationships in the first place.
Uhh, sweetie, pay attention to what I actually said, you blathering moron. I said it's a problem not because it's straight dipshit, it's because it's so fake and unbelievable. But just so you don't think I'm projecting, Kim Possible and Ron Stoppable is the best example of how it should be done, and it actual predates the shows I mentioned on both sides of the gender spectrum, proving it isn't all Hetro examples, just most of them.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Too bad the other creators cannot acknowledge nor acquire that technique from KP. Owl house was mostly a total letdown from the start, in relation to Gravity Falls any example wasn't good neither.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Don't you sweetie me, fappy owl anon. Other examples were right and mid, but from AT, Korra, SU, She-Ra & others including Owl shit are the ultimate destruction of the queer tv and the reason why they are aging poorly dissapointing the rep targeted as lazy, poor and easy.
See, but the problem is that you're a yurigay, so you're already coming from a skewed perspective.
It's like a BLACKEDgay trying to say that single-race relationships are don't poorly and interracial ones are done better, or a furgays saying that relationships are done better when all the characters are anthros.
You know they only say it because one is their fetish/cult.
>See, but the problem is that you're a yurigay, so you're already coming from a skewed perspective.
See
Uhh, sweetie, pay attention to what I actually said, you blathering moron. I said it's a problem not because it's straight dipshit, it's because it's so fake and unbelievable. But just so you don't think I'm projecting, Kim Possible and Ron Stoppable is the best example of how it should be done, and it actual predates the shows I mentioned on both sides of the gender spectrum, proving it isn't all Hetro examples, just most of them.
>It's like a BLACKEDgay trying to
Already stopped reading. Take meds and stop living in the shitstain that is /misc/itics.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I already read your other post, my point still remains.
A yurigay talking about hetero relationships is like a BLACKEDgay talking about any relationships that don't involve a black man.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>A yurigay talking about hetero relationships
Kim and Ron are Hetero, I don't see your point.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think you do but are playing dumb.
Let me dumb it down.
You're a yurigay.
Your opinion on hetero romance is irrelevant because you automatically overrate anything that involves yuri, because it's your fetish.
ie. Because you're a yurigay your opinion on anything that's not yuri is meaningless, because yurigays are incapable of objectivity.
Anon, I think you may be exaggerating Kid Kree's influence. No one was drawing or talking about Moon Girl before he showed up so introducing him couldn't have made things any less dead. Shame though, he's actually not bad and brought a few interesting things into the dynamic.
>Why is it so hard to write male romance with females that feels believable and actually tests each other to prove they actually care that deeply for each other >like they did in the Owl House?
Fricking kek
>Why is it so hard to write male romance with females that feels believable and actually tests each other to prove they actually care that deeply for each other, like they did in the Owl House?
Huh? What hetero romance existed in the Owl House under those criteria? Certainly none of the gay ones did.
>What hetero romance existed in the Owl House under those criteria?
A: I wasn't talking about ToH for Male Female relationsip, just relationsips in general. But Hunter and Willow are enough of an example to sure there's offer to show them grow together and care for each other to justify their final relationship compared to "they are in love on first sight owo" that morons think is natural behavior.
I'm talking about Kim and Ron as one of the best examples, but there's many outside of that, but mostly not in American shows. Only other noteworthy case would be Danny Fenton and Sam or Starco but both dropped the ball in their execution in the long run and made people made as a result. Mollie is just the newest example of that but without any build up to justifty it being a thing in the first place.
>Why is it so hard to write male romance with females that feels believable and actually tests each other to prove they actually care that deeply for each other, like they did in the Owl House?
You can't type shit like this and expect anyone to take you seriously, come on now.
The romance in TOH is an autistic incel's idea of romance.
>This other show's romance is shit so my autismo representation is suddenly not shit!
Not how it works bucko.
The balls on a c**t like you to come here and try and say TOH has good romance, a pox on your dogshit taste.
Take a fricking shower.
You take meds and off yourself. Don't confuse good romance and perfect writing like you think I'm saying. I'm saying it's the right kind of DIRECTION of romance to take, not the golden standard written on the 10 commandments themselves.
FFS I've shilled Kim and Ron far more ITT as the golden standard in numerous posts already but because I mentioned ToH once or twice that caused """many""" people to seethe over it to no end, when this was suppose to be about the reasons why Mollie isn't so liked among the fandom.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You stated that TOH does romance better.
It does not, it's also shit and poorly-done.
Just because cartoons in general are shit at compelling romance doesn't mean you need to pretend that trash is actually gold.
Again, take a fricking shower.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You stated that TOH does romance better.
Than Mollie? Yes. Raeda being an example of a failed attempt like Danny and Sam as a comparision. >It does not, it's also shit and poorly-done.
Said the asswipe not even trying to explain himself with examples.
>Just because cartoons in general are shit at compelling romance doesn't mean you need to pretend that trash is actually gold.
If that's your mindset, why the frick are you on this board you homosexual moron?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Shit is better than diarrhea, but it's still shit. >If that's your mindset, why the frick are you on this board you homosexual moron?
Not all of us are autistic losers here for romance and shipping because we can't get it IRL, this may come as a surprise to a moron like you but some of us like to just watch something with our kids or younger siblings or nieces/nephews, or just for reasons outside of romance.
I'm not watching a fricking kid's cartoon aimed at 7 year olds for fricking romance, because even by cartoon weirdo standards, that's utterly fricking pathetic.
If that's the only reason YOU'RE here then maybe you should frick off to Cinemaphile or /u/ or whatever other shithole your kind festers in.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Shit is better than diarrhea, but it's still shit.
Good thing that this isn't about quality, otherwise I would be TALKING ABOUT RON AND KIM LIKE I ALREADY FRICKING SAID, but about what did it better, which ToH objectively did over Mollie no matter how hard this makes you seethe. The thread already made it clear how Cinemaphile feels about Mollie, it's fact it's not redeemable in the slightest..
>Not all of us are autistic losers here for romance and shipping because we can't get it IRL,
Then why did you click on this thread? The topic is about why the character in OP's image ruin the show. I among others gave an answer. All you did with seethe over someone not shitting on ToH enough for your fried brain to cope with.
> this may come as a surprise to a moron like you but some of us like to just watch something with our kids or younger siblings or nieces/nephews, or just for reasons outside of romance.
No one said you can't. That has nothing to do with the thread and thus, shouldn't be mentioned here.
>I'm not watching a fricking kid's cartoon aimed at 7 year olds for fricking romance,
I'm not either. But htey added it into the series in S2 instantly and did so for no good reason which is what OP is calling out.
>If that's the only reason YOU'RE here
It's not, actually, since I have more issues with Molly McGee in general but I was staying on topic to the OP question, moron.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The topic is about why the character in OP's image ruin the show.
Right, and the topic now is about how only shippers and autistic yurigays such as yourself believe that.
The show had a myriad other issues besides Ollie and your focus on romance. >It's not, actually
Clearly it is, otherwise you wouldn't have asked why I'm on this BOARD when I mentioned to your autistic ass that I'm not here for romance.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Right, and the topic now is about how only shippers and autistic yurigays such as yourself believe that.
I have no idea what you're even saying at this point.
>The show had a myriad other issues besides Ollie and your focus on romance.
Well, if you want me to point out even more issues about Ollie himself, sure, because there's plenty and just add to him being unlikable in the first place. Namely his lack of original traits only to make sure he's this perfect projection of Molly's thoughts instead of challenging them like her own friends were doing, or his own conflicts with ghosts is literally just grooming via his dad's moronic reaction to a gay ghost that wasn't even what actually went down because he had genuine autism.
>Clearly it is, otherwise you wouldn't have asked why I'm on this BOARD
I said that because you claimed you don't even watch cartoons, only to backpedal afterwards claiming you only do it with siblings as if you don't even care about cartoons at all and only partake them for your families sake. Which is your own business, but really doesn't explain you coming to this thread instead.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Autism, your fricking grandma ass. That's an excuse just to cover and defend Owl shit show and your sad fake ass principles. Luz is garbage, Luz es basura
Romance in cartoons in general is just fricking awful.
I guess most people writing cartoons never really had good relationships to draw experience from?
My best guess, I don't frickin' know.
Also >owl house >good romance >good anything
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo
>I guess most people writing cartoons never really had good relationships to draw experience from?
Cartoons are usually made by dorks, nerds, and geeks. So what do you think?
>Let's make Molly straight but make her boyfriend look unremarkably boring and uninteresting >Let's make Andrea gay but not for Molly >Let's also make Andrea's girlfriend disgusting to look at
Maybe Libbygays were onto something. Libby had barely a presence in S2 yet she thru doing absolutely nothing and the bare minimum possible got the outcome that was best for her character remaining universally consistent.
The Ghost World is also apparently Purgatory and Ghosts apparently aren't real. They're souls that crave access into this universes depiction of heaven so the Chairman was apparently the Grim Reaper or the River Man who floats the River Styx to the Afterlife
Trannies and sexually immature males who are either perpetually stuck at the 16 year old lesbian porn only mindset, or self-inserting males who can't handle their waifu having a boyfriend.
Also wrong generation zoomers who shit on anything that isn't the latest FOTM cartoon from the 90s and early 2000s that Zoomer Twitter has recently "rediscovered"
Everybody acts like there was some huge meltdown was Ollie was revealed when there just kind of wasn't, people don't care enough about this show for that.
There wasn't a meltdown; the fanbase that was actively involved in discussing the show and making art of it just had an Abe Simpson reaction to his introduction that the show never recovered from.
There wasn't a meltdown; the fanbase that was actively involved in discussing the show and making art of it just had an Abe Simpson reaction to his introduction that the show never recovered from.
Ollie's existence was revealed early in a leak, which had a cushioning effect on the reaction since some fans found out about it earlier would have had time to cope or get over it. If there was no leak, all the fans would be surprised at the same time leading to a stronger reaction.
She bleeds from her vegana and gets her heart broken by her daddy.
>they literally confirmed that Libby is literally submissive and breedable
Madlads
>Andrea goes back to her home planet and in exchange we get more Libby and June focused plots
>Andrea goes back to her home planet
She would appear just as often, but would always be with her hambeast GF like a remora latched onto a whale.
I don't think 100% Molly McGee would be as harshly regarded if they didn't just completely shit on Molly's Irish heritage just to make a point. Or is it Scottish? We never really find that out either. We never get a heritage lore dropping granny like Nin for Pete's side, just his fat butthole siblings. Or an episode about Molly feeling inadequate because her cousins on Pete's side are all white Celtic BVLLS while she is a mutt, which makes more sense to make than "my muttoid cousin speaks slightly better Thai than me".
>my muttoid cousin
Isn't her cousin all Thai though? Molly is the one who is mixed.
Don't be so hard on him. Perhaps he's looking for more answers, or is just looking for another answer. Either way it seems like he's coping over the state of a show he once enjoyed so i say give him a break.
>MUH STATISTIC again
We’ve been through this anon; the lesbian abuse statistic was based on Reported cases of Verbal abuse, aka blue haired woman complaining that other blue haired woman hurt her feefees. It does not take into account all of the cases of Physical abuse that go Unreported out of fear, which angry intoxicated straight men still hold the record for. Stop intentionally spreading misinformation based on circumstantial half truths.
I feel like Ollie's problem was that he just wasn't flawed enough. He was a boring gary stu character who matched up perfectly with Molly other than his distrust of ghosts which it took him all of five seconds to make him entirely change his world view on them while some of them were literally in the middle of raping his family. Once that boring conflict was resolved, Ollie became even more useless. In fact, his autist sister started doing more later in the season and had more of a hand in the last two episodes than he did.
Moreover, shipping is boring without there being some sort of conflict. Jackie vs Star, Wendy vs Pacifica, or whatever mess Miraculous is, is what makes people talk about the shipping aspect. If everyone is a square peg and has a square hole to fit in then its already solved and boring as frick.
>I feel like Ollie's problem was that he just wasn't flawed enough.
This. >He was a boring gary stu character who matched up perfectly with Molly other than his distrust of ghosts which it took him all of five seconds to make him entirely change his world view on them while some of them were literally in the middle of raping his family.
SUPER this.
Real relationships shouldn't be encouraged by how one to one you both are, because then that one thing that seperates you will be what kills it off, because you were never task to accept differences and still like people. All this shit does is validate toxic behavior. Molly was already a toxic character because of her trama moving from state to state and making no longterm friends, all this dude did was validate her corrupted thoughts.
>All those dropped plot threads (the big box store, etc.) >Characters like Andrea being relegated to the background >Oliver being as bland as toast, with his family only being there to be proven wrong by Molly >Episodes like the TikTok and Farmville parodies >Jinx popping in the at the last minute because the season was too distracted in interpersonal drama
For as much as I like a few aspects of Season 2 (mostly Scractch), it had little to no direction as to what it wanted to be. Jinx is a joke of a villain, and the Chairman should've stuck around.
It says something that Jinx’s big take over the world finale for got leaked in full three times well before it aired but nothing ever got posted from it because nothing of interest happens in it. Nobody even wants to draw fanart of her big final boss chairman design because it’s just kind of ugly more than anything.
>Jinx
It's funny how she pretty much got no fan art at all. No one seemed to really care about her. And considering she ended up the main villain, that's a messy situation. Heck, I think the Frightmares had more fan art.
Speaking of Frightmares, you’d think with the detail that they only listen to the chairman that they’d become Jinx’s minions when she became chairman but no, it’s just sobgoblins again, they were just there to have a problem that only becoming the chairman would resolve.
She got some shipping her with Scratch but that pretty much died out when Adia was introduced, except for the handful of people who inexplicably thought they were the same person.
Yeah, because she wasn't meant to be the third friend. And the reason why those dumbases wanted to ship between the three girls, it's because they thought the show was considered to be TOH 2.0. but they were wrong
And the funniest thing is that Andrea at least in the context of what was actually animated never actually got to complete her stupid story arc so you're left to believe this was a really strange phase of Andrea's life she grew out of after she bankrupted her daddy's company
I was surprised watching the season 2 end to find that the Anon who called Geoff was the ghost that scared Ollie's dad at the start of the season was right. I'm supposing the were part of all the production leaks.
>have an entire half-hour episode about oh noes a family of ghost hunters moved in and we have a ghost, bet this'll lead to some wacky misadventures >forget to make any episodes about them actually hunting ghosts
It's like if Road Runner cartoons were just Wile E. Coyote sitting around at home thinking of plans to catch the Road Runner at some point in the future.
Oh it gets worse. As far as the S3 scripts were concerned any Ghost related plot is exclusively an Olly related problem meaning they created a Danny Phantom family for no other reason other then to introduce Poly
Its like how you're not actually suppose to care about the other members of Molly's family especially her dad
The show was ruined when TOH was finished.
People stopped following DisneyTVA shows since they got the thinking of everything after TOH will be pre-schoolar shit, not even people care about Moon Girl since Disney only want episodic shows easy to do re-runs.
Everyone transitioned to Murder Drones or Hazbin Hotel.
Views in cable for Moon Girl and Moly were super low and Hayley doesn't get a S2 greenlit...
But Ollie was a good character, it is just that his family bein fricking ghost hunters was a stupid idea.
dc super hero girls could have been a long running series if it's own creator didn't abandon it.
season 1 was so good and season 2 was ok but it clearly fell off.
>Darryl becomes the chairman for an entire season >episodes about diarrhea, minimum wage, and the importance of consent >not a single new ghost introduced since early season 2 >Half hour special to learn that Scratch's name ends with the letter D
That first post seems to be a parody of those "Trump won't be convicted / Trump will be out of jail in just 20 years" shitposts. It actually makes me sad that people early on had such optimism for this show though I'm not sure how sincere they are being in that instance. Around October and November of 2021 is when episodes like "Monumental Disaster" premiered so the problems and cracks were already starting to show.
Still, I don't think anyone, not even the people working on this show, expected it to be cancelled so fast. If the same wasn't happening to other shows like Hailey and MGDD I'd suspect that something went awry behind the scenes, but this seems to be a studio-wide thing.
It was probably the first episode that caused some backlash and divisiveness. The whole "Wammin' Really Built History" angle felt forced and out of tone with this show. It wasn't a complete wash though. Tug was an entertaining character, but he became sidelined afterward (ironically, he still shows up to help the heroes more than his fatass sister does). It also introduced Libby's bloodhound of truth thing. But overall... it's a pointless episode. We've done this "Town founder is really a fraud" thing on so many other shows its starting to feel disingenuous, undermining, and inherently israeli.
>It also introduced Libby's bloodhound of truth thing
"Scratch the Surface" did it first actually.
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That came out later. Monumental Disaster even set up the lead in for that at the end of the episode (when Libby says she's investigating supernatural blah blah blah).
DTVA is just one long string of people going “they cancelled the show I like for THIS?!” And then that show becomes the show they liked that got cancelled for the next bad new thing
If Molly McGee were the 5 stages of Grief this scene right here lingers between denial and anger
I'd argue the real shark jumping moment was Andrea getting Molly her house back. Its like they spedrun 2 and a half seasons of development just to race to Andrea's redemption arc as fast as possible
But the real shark jumping moment, the one where we got to the bargaining step of the 5 stages of Grief was Davenports on Demand which is the actual moment the show was finished.
I know the real problem
He wasn't white, ethnic girls love white boys and the recent failure of many cartoons is the lack of them as either main characters or love interests.
Him being "white tolorance of brown" wasn't the problem, moron. In fact I'd hate him more if he looked like this.
He's just piss poor boring propped as something special, nuff said.
I know the real problem
He wasn't white, ethnic girls love white boys and the recent failure of many cartoons is the lack of them as either main characters or love interests.
In the theoretical third-season, Wasn't he meant to get cursed with dementia and become like the Lich-King in the Ghost world [replacing Scratch as chairman somehow] and the finale was going to be everyone having to 'Go ghost!' and save him or smth?
In the theoretical third-season, Wasn't he meant to get cursed with dementia and become like the Lich-King in the Ghost world [replacing Scratch as chairman somehow] and the finale was going to be everyone having to 'Go ghost!' and save him or smth?
Its literal Hazbin shit. Like its so similar to Viv's plot but you switch out human souls for demons.
Hailey and Molly just plain ol' suck but it's the crew's fault it sucks, never once they admitted to follow the premise of their plot. if you were watching for the ghosts or the chaos bots then you're a moron.
Moon Grill is a disappointment by design. they had the marvel universe and chose to ignore it.
Third season would have been worth it, despite the fact the quality seemed to be getting worse and worse the longer it went on, if only because of the fact that we probably could have gotten like ~2 more Libby & Andrea episodes each, Which would have made another season of Molly and her moronic family and boyfriendu worth it.
We have the S3 script TL;DR's and [one?] of the Libby episodes of S3 was going to be the towns permit officer being a literal EVIL CHOOOOOOOD and Libby and Molly singing off against him...or smth.
More like people watch Molly for the cute girls, which is why they get angry that one of them got a boyfriend because the girl was "taken" from them, whereas if it were yuri they'd be fine with that because both of the girls could both still belong to him
At least I assume that's the yurigay mindset
It's more that all through elementary school I grew up with girls talking nonstop about boys in magazines, then in junior high and high school about their boyfriends and the boyfriends of girls they hate, then about movie stars in their 20s and the absolute last fricking thing I want to see in a cartoon is a girl obsessively talking about boys.
That's on you for spending all your time hanging around with girls like a homosexual instead of finding other blokes to share your interests with, can't expect the showrunners to cater to your extremely specific grievance
I'm almost 40 now. Some people's entire personality revolves around the opposite sex and they are the most annoying fricking people on the planet. And they don't grow out of it. They either get married or become an incel and make THAT their personality.
You know what that's fair, I guess I just don't mind in this show since it seems more like an innocent childlike crush that's obviously a phase instead of an annoying gay who never shuts up about whatever hot babe caught his eye that day every day
>Molly is sad that Scratch is gone >She feels alone in her room >Then Molly realizes that she hasn't been alone in her room since moving to Brighton >It's naked time
I don't think 100% Molly McGee would be as harshly regarded if they didn't just completely shit on Molly's Irish heritage just to make a point. Or is it Scottish? We never really find that out either. We never get a heritage lore dropping granny like Nin for Pete's side, just his fat butthole siblings. Or an episode about Molly feeling inadequate because her cousins on Pete's side are all white Celtic BVLLS while she is a mutt, which makes more sense to make than "my muttoid cousin speaks slightly better Thai than me".
Yeah, that it not once had a single nod towards her dad's racial identity was a weird choice. Especially after she made such a big deal of her mom's. Though even if they did, I'm not sure how much of a difference it would have made considering how the segment went. Really makes me wonder what they were thinking with that one and Molly's identity issue there.
Heck yeah. Our girl is working it thoroughly and not at all letting up. Good stuff anon. June very cute and seeing her getting some love like this is cool.
not bad, she kinda looks like irma from tmnt cartoon or jeanette from the chipmunk adventure
i guess it's just the ponytail and glasses but they all looks very similar
The oral fixation a autistic girl would have during a blowjob would be amazing. She would either have a pattern or just be random trying to find whatever gives her the best mouth feel. Both leading to a long, slow, blowjob that gets increasingly better
>Isn't her cousin all Thai though? Molly is the one who is mixed.
Then why did they have the same hair color as Molly?
Her dad has recessive phenotypes so it was very likely that Molly wouldn't have looked like him at all so her looking just like the family would be reasonable to do although I would have preferred if they made them have more brownish grey hair shine rather than red just for the sake of making Molly actually look different like someone mixed usually does
If Ollie was cut then all of his time could have been spent on building the girl trios friendship up like in Period Piece, or flesh out Scratch's identity mystery more
Wish that happened
I'm sorry your yuri fantasies had to stay in your fanart, anon. But its been years let it go.
Nah, Ollie sucks for many reasons, but "ruining yuribait" isn't one of them. That slampig Andrea wants to go to town with, tho...
>*unbridles your truths*
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Based and autistic-pilled
Symptoms of the ruination, not the source.
What is the source?
The people making it.
Well then what is the source knowitall?
I REALLY want to frick this pig's fat thighs.
Dude she's 11, wtf
11/10
I'll miss June. I thought she was cute and could have been entertaining but they really didn't do anything with her in the end.
You can say that with most characters in this show. You can literally make a list. Libby, Andrea, Tammy, Quinby
Eh, Libby got quite a bit of time to her. Outside of Scratch and Molly she could probably be thought of the third most focused on character. The rest though you are right about. Tammy and Quinby specifically still bother me to see get so nothing in the end. Hell, Kat and Sheela too considering they were supposed to be on the table for the spot of Molly's bestie.
Does this b***h even appear in any other scenes? Every fricking time this is the only one people post
She showed up in about two or three other segments.
She's a super hacker and that somehow helped them discover Scratch's true identity
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For some reason, they grafted the computer hacker thing they were building up for Andrea on to her and made her an extremely integral part of the final episodes.
Both Andrea and June are side characters so it really doesn't matter who they used for it
Andrea is literally one of Molly's 'besties' and isn't even in the finale, except for a single frame where she's looking at her phone in the background kek.
>Behind Andrea
WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87'???!!?!?!?!!?!!?!?!?!
Actually the Bite happens in Kiff
Yeah cause she's a side character
This episode proves that CGDCT improves an episodes quality and memorability by many factors. The Period Piece was by all means a bottle episode, with a shitty B-plot, and a half-assed attempt at a PSA, but its still remembered more fondly than the likes of Sunnyland (which it aired alongside IIRC) or 100% Molly McMutt.
>100% Molly McMutt.
This episode was such a huge stinker. It was the last one before a long hiatus too, and when the show came back it never had the same enthusiasm around it, on here at least. I think that's when most premiere talkback threads were entirely on /trash/.
I also remember the normies getting pissed at the VCR joke episode, which was around the same time. They killed the Cinemaphile and the reddit/twitter fanbase in a one two combo, and those were the only things keep this show's net presence alive.
Yeah, the first quarter or so of season 2 was still somewhat optimistic until the exact point that episode aired.
I feel like this was the last Disney cartoon with any noteworthy net presence at all. It was fairly small but Kiff or Moon Girl or Hailey have practically zero
That's because it was. It never got as big as them, but it did manage to catch at least some of the left over energy from frogs and owls. But every other show after couldn't even come close to getting any real energy going online. At least Hailey had a little murmurings early on. But everything else has had whispers at best. Shame since I actually quite like Moon Girl. What I'm curious about is if Phineas and Ferb is going to make and waves online or not.
It also doesnt help how Period Place and Davenports on Demand literally take place a day in universe apart from one another and after that moment Molly goes from being Andrea's friend to Andrea's advisory council because nothing about their friendship is real. In S3 it gets worse because Andrea straight up phases Molly out for that disgusting fat girl, Molly was just suppose to be the bridge to get her there.
>CGDCT
While this is certainly a powerful force, I wouldn't say The Period Piece really nails it. It just barely does the minimum and I'd call it one of the weaker of the alright segments. Obviously not as bad as some of the other ones we got but not good either. I never really got the dislike for Sunnyland. Was a good example of how Molly's endless positivity and drive can blow up in her face and was entertaining enough. Always seemed like it just came out right as people started really hating any episodes that take place primarily in one location and got a lot of hate right out of the gate doe that alone. Even though compared to some other episodes with similar limitations, it actually had a reason for it that fit the story.
More like the opposite, it came out before there was a ton of other episodes that never left the house, but people started disliking it more retroactively after it became evident the season had an influx of bottle episodes
You know when I hear back on that proposal they originally had about Jinx being a more prominent antagonist I always imagined how you could have had the same Ep dynamics but the context is not only different but better now that Jinx is there
Period Place now becomes an Ep where Jinx told Andrea to go spend the night at Molly's to find out where Molly lives so she can then properly threaten Scratch for ruining the Ghost Dimension and decides to go rouge saying how she's not afraid of Scratch's new Chairman position.
>Libby: We're actually inviting Andrea over to a sleepover?
>Molly: Think about it. Logistically it makes sense. You can get a 2nd chance at being Andrea's friend and I can properly thank the person responsible for getting my house back
>Libby: Will either of these plotlines be brought up in the Ep?
>Molly: FRICK NO WHAT THE FRICK KIND OF SHOW DO YOU THINK THIS IS
>Also you will never have another meaningful moment with Andrea again after this
There was a script about robots fighting in some Big Hero 6 fighting tournament and Andrea participates in that tournament to flirt with that fat girl that she likes because she learns that she's into engineering
This also doesnt really go anywhere
Sounds fun
I don't know why but something about the way you typed this feels like you think I should be just as mad about this as you are but I'm just not
She also has a line where she says she’s chairwoman of the lgbtqaigxp+ club
Oh no?
They could totally spin this into something worthwhile.
>Tournament happens, Andrea wins the whole thing, beats the fat chick in the finale
>Andrea goes up to landwhale to congratulate her, instead the hog shows her true colors and is bitter/angry at Andrea for beating her
>Andrea emotionally devastated that her celebrity crush turned out to be a gigantic butthole
>cue to after everyone leaves, Andrea alone in the empty stadium crying
>Libby swoops in
They only do that sort of plot with male characters.
I like where your idea is headed, but unfortunately from the leaks we know that wasn't at all the direction they were going to go in.
According to the script, Andrea gets to start her new relationship but then the camera turns to Molly because Molly interprets this experience of people she knows and are important to her leaving her life to do other things and she uses it as a coping mechanism for how is she gonna move on without scratch. Essentially the S2 ending but it would have extended a whole nother season.
>Essentially the S2 ending but it would have extended a whole nother season.
There were also two more episodes about Scratch's backstory (which in Season 2 were the only episodes people consistently agreed were good) to draw out the reveal further. They were both pretty bad.
>Andrea
>no sauce
God I hate you crophomosexuals so much
>bitch, your pie is cold! *slaps andrea*
>*tunnels your Brooklyn*
Uglies your autism concept
Black person what? June is cute
If you're into ugly dudes I guess
Made for rape
Yes. She can't and won't control herself.
This is 'autistic representation' apparently.
Autists only defining trait is being 'somewhat good with technology'
Andrea is also autistic by this metric.
Well she kinda looks it in some frames.
You'd have to either be genetically autistic to find attraction to Andrea's GF or autistic to even explain just how in the hell you can justify two radically different people forming a relationship together. That ship was so bad it completely made me realize that the term "opposites attract" is a bullshit claim. Even Molly would have been a better choice and it would have made sense.
so what if i am?
She was 100% autistic, for certain.
>Seethes over your name be said wrong.
>Needs constant validation by strangers online
>Has an uncharacteristic knack for coding
Anon thats the only in character thing about Andrea. Have you not watched literally any twitch stream in your entire life? If anything these traits about Andrea are underexaggerated and if anything would have made for great gags
I hate using it as a comparison but, look at Tweenkle from that awful Planet Ruby show. She is what Andrea should be
>Have you not watched literally any twitch stream in your entire life?
No
also
>trans
Real autists are offended by this character. Weaponizing autism in order to get away with saying whatever you want is fricking bullshit. It's like that episode of South Park where Cartman pretends to have tourette syndrome so he can swear and yell at people and be anti-semetic. A real autist would not be so happy about their predicament, nor would they have control over it.
>June inadvertently confessing that she and Ollie bumped uglies
Honestly Libby felt more like an autism rep than June was. June was ironically more social than Libby was, in fact from this one frame alone + Darryl she actually has the most on screen "friends". June is the autism wish fulfillment, the confident hyper genius who can get away with being a know it all, whereas Libby is the more realistic portrayal of the weird sheltered shy kid who's just a little "off" - the whole "Bloodhound of Truth" gimmick feels way more autistic than anything June does. Plus Libby has more pronounced special interests - turtles, books, history, conspiracy theories, "investigating" things. June's technological prowess is more of a punchline than an actual character trait, Libby is passionate about these things whereas June just sees hacking into every security camera in Brighton as some trivial task.
I agree with all of that and honestly a huge problem with "representation" in media in general is that writers are scared to depict the people they're claiming to represent as having any negatives for fear of offending/insulting them and creating a backlash. Which rather misses the point of genuine representation, which should be to portray them realistically.
>should be to portray them realistically
I think represent party is scared by their reflection, many, most times it's created by someone of the same camp but still has backlash attached to it.
People are afraid to portray reality as it is in cartoons, they are afraid to talk seriously because the general public is afraid to face reality and they get very violent when you do it, there always has to be a happy ending, a joke in the end or be totally irrelevant.
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You know, more often than not Molly feels like the off one.
Well yeah, she calls some random woman about her childhood friend and starts screaming “tell me how the b***h died” over and over
I mean it makes sense in context. It's just weird without the context.
Well Adia didn't know the context so it probably came off weird for her
Wrong, this ruined it
This leaked 3 months early but people hated the twist so much they convinced themselves it was AI
>x didn't ruin the show, it was purely coincidental that there was suddenly a huge drop in quality at the exact point it first started happening
Correlation is not causation, homosexual
The show was getting boring before he was even introduced. What he managed to do was present a romance so boring it killed off most of the shipper audience, who despite the show getting stale were still keeping the fandom somewhat active.
It really did seem to kill the yurigay fanbase dead. I've hardly seen any shipping art of Molly with Libby or Andrea at all since it was revealed.
Sam King truly was psychotic trying to hardsell to an audience that was dead set and already long since made up their minds they were only gonna accept Molly with Libby or Molly with Andrea
So where in the absolute frick did Sam get the idea for pitching whatever the frick they had planned for Andrea. Why does she need to be obese. I totally understand the frustration of Olly being literally a one dimensional character but better your character be a wet cardboard box then whatever the frick Andrea's GF was suppose to be
>Sam King
Stopped reading
Yurigays are like nega-fujos.
Whereas when fujos say "I don't care about canon" they mean it, yurigays care deeply about canon, they treat their fetish less like a fetish and more like a cult.
It's why fujos will still gladly make all sorts of fujo and gay fanart of characters with confirmed female love interests while yurigays will throw a fit if a female character they shipped as gay ends up with a dude.
Its probably because canon yaoi is pretty much just not happening 99% of the time, while yurigays feels they have a better chance considering lesbian relationships in cartoons are more plausible.
It has always baffled me why anyone would need canon endorsement for their personal sexual fantasies.
because yurigays don't care about relationships they just want to prevent women from being shipped with men, that's literally it
But that makes no sense because canon doesn't stop anyone straight shipping lesbians, they are the only ones who seem to care about canon when it comes to shipping.
Yurigays tend to think that everyone is like them and is obsessed with canon, so they think if a female is "confirmed gay" it'll result in more yuri art and less non-yuri art.
As was previously stated, for yurigays it's less a fetish and more a cult, so everything they think, say, and do makes sense if you think of it in the context of "will this mean more yuri?"
In a way it functions a lot like a religion, and your average yurigay is a fanatic.
cause they don't like the idea of their precious lesbians touching dick
because if they have it means they have been tainted
>it means they have been tainted
And this is the main reason most of canon animated bi females are just lesbians in disguise.
true, there are so many its basically a rule
So they are just like male incels that dox and harass real people that makes a persona online as a VTuber when they found out that VTuber has a boyfriend irl.
>just like
Anon, they ARE those male incels.
Are you just now realizing that most yurigays are also /vt/umors and incels?
It's called validation. It's literally in every schizo autistic fandom like Sonic that needs the creators of the IP to validate their vision of the IP by making it official.
>remember the times when MLP was big, Big Mac got shipped back and fourth between Fluttershy and Cheerilee
>both camps had people who unnecessarily hated the other camp
>Big Mac ends up marrying a someone introduced seasons down the road
BTFO. But really, shipping can be some of the most cancerous shit.
And then in the series finale they had the whole cast cheer while a child got publicly executed.
Man i stopped at season 5, but I don't remember him getting shipped with Fluttershy, just Cheerilee. And it sucks to hear they Mordecai'd him when they got a whole valentines episode setting them up.
Oh, there were camps of BM with Shy, but I like to think they had him get with the rando just to say "Shut up". They made a bunch of fanon shit canon later on anyway, so no one had room to complain.
Anon, some peoples only interest in some cartoons is who is fricking who.
Male autism relies heavily on appeals to authority. It's why Sonic threads are always full of homosexuals shrieking about what Sega does or doesn't regard as part of this week's particular group of "approved media."
16 years and this image still creeps me out of stare too long.
Olly is a strange character. You can tell Sam King didn't watch a single microsecond of S1 which is why S2 feels like all of the same plots that were reintroduced in S1 but either heavily abridged or told worse. It was an odd exec choice to have S2 have nothing to do with ghosts related plots only to have it revealed one season later that all Ghost plots going forward we're Olly focused meaning they were actively and deliberately phasing Molly out of her own show. Like Sam was straight up implying the 2 most important plots for Molly specifically were "spend as much time with Scratch as possible" and "Andrea getting a GF"
This shouldnt have been about ghosts from the beginning if the writers felt burnt out with the concept only 1/3 of the way in S1. If Hailey's on it can get greenlit with barely a premise involved so could this.
I believe this exact thing happened to Moon Girl as well.
Why is it so hard to write male romance with females that feels believable and actually tests each other to prove they actually care that deeply for each other, like they did in the Owl House? I'd also add Starco but that apparently fricked itself by the audience reaction to it.
>like they did in the Owl House?
Shut up homosexual.
>like they did in the Owl House
lol, lmao
Amity lost her entire personality and goals when she fell in love with Luz. Amity as more of a "simp" than a girlfriend.
>goals
She never had any. Watch the show. Everything she "wanted" to be was actually what her mother wanted her to be. She never had her own life until Luz gave her one.
Her personality was exactly how it was when she was still friends with Willow. That's the real Amity. Not the groomed Green Haired one. If you like that one you never liked Amity in the first place.
Except Moon Girl does it well because Lunella and Marvin are two nerds that don't feel comfortable at all being lovey dovey
Yeah, that's after a few episodes of anticaption wondering how will they devopled, they basically had the same Molly Ollie dynamic from the start, which I hated, but it paid off being a neutral situation of them both not being ready for romance, something I can respect.
My problem is this, many examples of this kind of shipping always has it done where they either just love each other just because they have one similar interest, which is very unrealistic to me because friendship requires far more for some reason and the other issue is when they do pair these characters up like this, there's no on screen development that shows just exactly why they care, should care and actually would do to keep caring to make their chemistry feel real and well earned. Other shows like ToH just do it better, with the exception of Raine and Eda for the exact issues I see in other ships but for some reason it's ignored completely as long as the are young lovers. Maybe I'm asking for too much, but I just want a mature and natural growth in the bond between people that genuinely shows compassion for one another, instead of this awkward and seriously dated concept of "awkward romance" we were told is normal between two different sexes for decades now.
The biggest problem of this is that it's almost exclusively a hetrosexual problem. Lesbos like Korrasami and Bubbline aren't great examples imo, but others since have been doing things far more believable and had actual effort put into making it work, or at least, feel believable that even if it wasn't canon, it feels like it could be like in Amphibia or in my case between Casey and Lunalla, where these kind of interactions and dynamics present a far more rewarding development for couples to be written as if you wanted to have said relationships in the first place.
>>The biggest problem of this is that it's almost exclusively a hetrosexual problem
No, it isn't. It's the shitting handling of the industrial dykes trying to rise up their suggestive propaganda.
Uhh, sweetie, pay attention to what I actually said, you blathering moron. I said it's a problem not because it's straight dipshit, it's because it's so fake and unbelievable. But just so you don't think I'm projecting, Kim Possible and Ron Stoppable is the best example of how it should be done, and it actual predates the shows I mentioned on both sides of the gender spectrum, proving it isn't all Hetro examples, just most of them.
Too bad the other creators cannot acknowledge nor acquire that technique from KP. Owl house was mostly a total letdown from the start, in relation to Gravity Falls any example wasn't good neither.
Don't you sweetie me, fappy owl anon. Other examples were right and mid, but from AT, Korra, SU, She-Ra & others including Owl shit are the ultimate destruction of the queer tv and the reason why they are aging poorly dissapointing the rep targeted as lazy, poor and easy.
shows like ToH just do it better.
Idiot, the execs never cared about the show not to mention Dana has poor storyline skills which it led to it's cancelation? Better nothing!!
See, but the problem is that you're a yurigay, so you're already coming from a skewed perspective.
It's like a BLACKEDgay trying to say that single-race relationships are don't poorly and interracial ones are done better, or a furgays saying that relationships are done better when all the characters are anthros.
You know they only say it because one is their fetish/cult.
>See, but the problem is that you're a yurigay, so you're already coming from a skewed perspective.
See
>It's like a BLACKEDgay trying to
Already stopped reading. Take meds and stop living in the shitstain that is /misc/itics.
I already read your other post, my point still remains.
A yurigay talking about hetero relationships is like a BLACKEDgay talking about any relationships that don't involve a black man.
>A yurigay talking about hetero relationships
Kim and Ron are Hetero, I don't see your point.
I think you do but are playing dumb.
Let me dumb it down.
You're a yurigay.
Your opinion on hetero romance is irrelevant because you automatically overrate anything that involves yuri, because it's your fetish.
ie. Because you're a yurigay your opinion on anything that's not yuri is meaningless, because yurigays are incapable of objectivity.
Anon, I think you may be exaggerating Kid Kree's influence. No one was drawing or talking about Moon Girl before he showed up so introducing him couldn't have made things any less dead. Shame though, he's actually not bad and brought a few interesting things into the dynamic.
>Why is it so hard to write male romance with females that feels believable and actually tests each other to prove they actually care that deeply for each other
>like they did in the Owl House?
Fricking kek
>Why is it so hard to write male romance with females that feels believable and actually tests each other to prove they actually care that deeply for each other, like they did in the Owl House?
Huh? What hetero romance existed in the Owl House under those criteria? Certainly none of the gay ones did.
>What hetero romance existed in the Owl House under those criteria?
A: I wasn't talking about ToH for Male Female relationsip, just relationsips in general. But Hunter and Willow are enough of an example to sure there's offer to show them grow together and care for each other to justify their final relationship compared to "they are in love on first sight owo" that morons think is natural behavior.
I'm talking about Kim and Ron as one of the best examples, but there's many outside of that, but mostly not in American shows. Only other noteworthy case would be Danny Fenton and Sam or Starco but both dropped the ball in their execution in the long run and made people made as a result. Mollie is just the newest example of that but without any build up to justifty it being a thing in the first place.
>Why is it so hard to write male romance with females that feels believable and actually tests each other to prove they actually care that deeply for each other, like they did in the Owl House?
You can't type shit like this and expect anyone to take you seriously, come on now.
The romance in TOH is an autistic incel's idea of romance.
>The romance in TOH is an autistic incel's idea of romance.
Said the morons thinking love at first sight is natural and believable.
>This other show's romance is shit so my autismo representation is suddenly not shit!
Not how it works bucko.
The balls on a c**t like you to come here and try and say TOH has good romance, a pox on your dogshit taste.
Take a fricking shower.
You take meds and off yourself. Don't confuse good romance and perfect writing like you think I'm saying. I'm saying it's the right kind of DIRECTION of romance to take, not the golden standard written on the 10 commandments themselves.
FFS I've shilled Kim and Ron far more ITT as the golden standard in numerous posts already but because I mentioned ToH once or twice that caused """many""" people to seethe over it to no end, when this was suppose to be about the reasons why Mollie isn't so liked among the fandom.
You stated that TOH does romance better.
It does not, it's also shit and poorly-done.
Just because cartoons in general are shit at compelling romance doesn't mean you need to pretend that trash is actually gold.
Again, take a fricking shower.
>You stated that TOH does romance better.
Than Mollie? Yes. Raeda being an example of a failed attempt like Danny and Sam as a comparision.
>It does not, it's also shit and poorly-done.
Said the asswipe not even trying to explain himself with examples.
>Just because cartoons in general are shit at compelling romance doesn't mean you need to pretend that trash is actually gold.
If that's your mindset, why the frick are you on this board you homosexual moron?
Shit is better than diarrhea, but it's still shit.
>If that's your mindset, why the frick are you on this board you homosexual moron?
Not all of us are autistic losers here for romance and shipping because we can't get it IRL, this may come as a surprise to a moron like you but some of us like to just watch something with our kids or younger siblings or nieces/nephews, or just for reasons outside of romance.
I'm not watching a fricking kid's cartoon aimed at 7 year olds for fricking romance, because even by cartoon weirdo standards, that's utterly fricking pathetic.
If that's the only reason YOU'RE here then maybe you should frick off to Cinemaphile or /u/ or whatever other shithole your kind festers in.
>Shit is better than diarrhea, but it's still shit.
Good thing that this isn't about quality, otherwise I would be TALKING ABOUT RON AND KIM LIKE I ALREADY FRICKING SAID, but about what did it better, which ToH objectively did over Mollie no matter how hard this makes you seethe. The thread already made it clear how Cinemaphile feels about Mollie, it's fact it's not redeemable in the slightest..
>Not all of us are autistic losers here for romance and shipping because we can't get it IRL,
Then why did you click on this thread? The topic is about why the character in OP's image ruin the show. I among others gave an answer. All you did with seethe over someone not shitting on ToH enough for your fried brain to cope with.
> this may come as a surprise to a moron like you but some of us like to just watch something with our kids or younger siblings or nieces/nephews, or just for reasons outside of romance.
No one said you can't. That has nothing to do with the thread and thus, shouldn't be mentioned here.
>I'm not watching a fricking kid's cartoon aimed at 7 year olds for fricking romance,
I'm not either. But htey added it into the series in S2 instantly and did so for no good reason which is what OP is calling out.
>If that's the only reason YOU'RE here
It's not, actually, since I have more issues with Molly McGee in general but I was staying on topic to the OP question, moron.
>The topic is about why the character in OP's image ruin the show.
Right, and the topic now is about how only shippers and autistic yurigays such as yourself believe that.
The show had a myriad other issues besides Ollie and your focus on romance.
>It's not, actually
Clearly it is, otherwise you wouldn't have asked why I'm on this BOARD when I mentioned to your autistic ass that I'm not here for romance.
>Right, and the topic now is about how only shippers and autistic yurigays such as yourself believe that.
I have no idea what you're even saying at this point.
>The show had a myriad other issues besides Ollie and your focus on romance.
Well, if you want me to point out even more issues about Ollie himself, sure, because there's plenty and just add to him being unlikable in the first place. Namely his lack of original traits only to make sure he's this perfect projection of Molly's thoughts instead of challenging them like her own friends were doing, or his own conflicts with ghosts is literally just grooming via his dad's moronic reaction to a gay ghost that wasn't even what actually went down because he had genuine autism.
>Clearly it is, otherwise you wouldn't have asked why I'm on this BOARD
I said that because you claimed you don't even watch cartoons, only to backpedal afterwards claiming you only do it with siblings as if you don't even care about cartoons at all and only partake them for your families sake. Which is your own business, but really doesn't explain you coming to this thread instead.
Autism, your fricking grandma ass. That's an excuse just to cover and defend Owl shit show and your sad fake ass principles. Luz is garbage, Luz es basura
Romance in cartoons in general is just fricking awful.
I guess most people writing cartoons never really had good relationships to draw experience from?
My best guess, I don't frickin' know.
Also
>owl house
>good romance
>good anything
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo
Post good romance in non cartoon media
I'll fricking wait
>Inb4 coomshit from anime or rape fantasy stories from erotica books.
>I guess most people writing cartoons never really had good relationships to draw experience from?
Cartoons are usually made by dorks, nerds, and geeks. So what do you think?
>canonised Molly as straight
>makes /u/Black folk seethe
>is a boring as frick poor excuse for a character
I'm torn.
>Let's make Molly straight but make her boyfriend look unremarkably boring and uninteresting
>Let's make Andrea gay but not for Molly
>Let's also make Andrea's girlfriend disgusting to look at
Maybe Libbygays were onto something. Libby had barely a presence in S2 yet she thru doing absolutely nothing and the bare minimum possible got the outcome that was best for her character remaining universally consistent.
She bleeds from her vegana and gets her heart broken by her daddy.
>Breedable and daddy issues
Hot
Funny how the israelite gets the better outcome.
In season 3 he was going to be louder, angrier, and have access to the Chairman cloak
The Ghost World is also apparently Purgatory and Ghosts apparently aren't real. They're souls that crave access into this universes depiction of heaven so the Chairman was apparently the Grim Reaper or the River Man who floats the River Styx to the Afterlife
So literally Hazbin shit
So is he wearing a gold chain or something?
Does it fricking matter?
It just bothers me why he has that yellow line on his shirt.
>Male character exists
>Portrayed as a nice guy who goes with the main girl, so not a dyke
>This board: REEEEEEE
Why are you like this?
The everlasting consequences of Amphibia and The Owl House
Trannies and sexually immature males who are either perpetually stuck at the 16 year old lesbian porn only mindset, or self-inserting males who can't handle their waifu having a boyfriend.
Also wrong generation zoomers who shit on anything that isn't the latest FOTM cartoon from the 90s and early 2000s that Zoomer Twitter has recently "rediscovered"
Everybody acts like there was some huge meltdown was Ollie was revealed when there just kind of wasn't, people don't care enough about this show for that.
There wasn't a meltdown; the fanbase that was actively involved in discussing the show and making art of it just had an Abe Simpson reaction to his introduction that the show never recovered from.
Ollie's existence was revealed early in a leak, which had a cushioning effect on the reaction since some fans found out about it earlier would have had time to cope or get over it. If there was no leak, all the fans would be surprised at the same time leading to a stronger reaction.
>they literally confirmed that Libby is literally submissive and breedable
Madlads
>Andrea goes back to her home planet
She would appear just as often, but would always be with her hambeast GF like a remora latched onto a whale.
>my muttoid cousin
Isn't her cousin all Thai though? Molly is the one who is mixed.
>Isn't her cousin all Thai though? Molly is the one who is mixed.
Then why did they have the same hair color as Molly?
Sing to me Brother Bill, sing to me Brother Bob, what is TGAMM's legacy?
You asked this question last thread and you already got answers, stupid frick.
Don't be so hard on him. Perhaps he's looking for more answers, or is just looking for another answer. Either way it seems like he's coping over the state of a show he once enjoyed so i say give him a break.
Unfortunate implications upon rewatch.
Libby.
>MUH STATISTIC again
We’ve been through this anon; the lesbian abuse statistic was based on Reported cases of Verbal abuse, aka blue haired woman complaining that other blue haired woman hurt her feefees. It does not take into account all of the cases of Physical abuse that go Unreported out of fear, which angry intoxicated straight men still hold the record for. Stop intentionally spreading misinformation based on circumstantial half truths.
You must be fun at parties, gay
Nice try LIDF, I'm gonna keep spreading the truth about your toxic lifestyle no matter how much you try to muddy the waters. Believe it!
Get over it
No need to be an ass anon, especially towards those who make fair points.
wont stop me from beating my dick to molly
>Main girl gets paired with basically the genderbent version of herself
I feel like that's been happening very often recently.
Such as?
Happened in Inside Job with Reagan and Ron
the show was already bad before he showed up.
Im still salty we never got to see him crossdressing.
Why would they make her boyfriend look related to her?
I feel like Ollie's problem was that he just wasn't flawed enough. He was a boring gary stu character who matched up perfectly with Molly other than his distrust of ghosts which it took him all of five seconds to make him entirely change his world view on them while some of them were literally in the middle of raping his family. Once that boring conflict was resolved, Ollie became even more useless. In fact, his autist sister started doing more later in the season and had more of a hand in the last two episodes than he did.
Moreover, shipping is boring without there being some sort of conflict. Jackie vs Star, Wendy vs Pacifica, or whatever mess Miraculous is, is what makes people talk about the shipping aspect. If everyone is a square peg and has a square hole to fit in then its already solved and boring as frick.
>I feel like Ollie's problem was that he just wasn't flawed enough.
This.
>He was a boring gary stu character who matched up perfectly with Molly other than his distrust of ghosts which it took him all of five seconds to make him entirely change his world view on them while some of them were literally in the middle of raping his family.
SUPER this.
Real relationships shouldn't be encouraged by how one to one you both are, because then that one thing that seperates you will be what kills it off, because you were never task to accept differences and still like people. All this shit does is validate toxic behavior. Molly was already a toxic character because of her trama moving from state to state and making no longterm friends, all this dude did was validate her corrupted thoughts.
>All those dropped plot threads (the big box store, etc.)
>Characters like Andrea being relegated to the background
>Oliver being as bland as toast, with his family only being there to be proven wrong by Molly
>Episodes like the TikTok and Farmville parodies
>Jinx popping in the at the last minute because the season was too distracted in interpersonal drama
For as much as I like a few aspects of Season 2 (mostly Scractch), it had little to no direction as to what it wanted to be. Jinx is a joke of a villain, and the Chairman should've stuck around.
Dont forget S3 also lacking direction and having EP concepts that are so bad you question how these scripts could possibly be real
It says something that Jinx’s big take over the world finale for got leaked in full three times well before it aired but nothing ever got posted from it because nothing of interest happens in it. Nobody even wants to draw fanart of her big final boss chairman design because it’s just kind of ugly more than anything.
>Jinx
It's funny how she pretty much got no fan art at all. No one seemed to really care about her. And considering she ended up the main villain, that's a messy situation. Heck, I think the Frightmares had more fan art.
Speaking of Frightmares, you’d think with the detail that they only listen to the chairman that they’d become Jinx’s minions when she became chairman but no, it’s just sobgoblins again, they were just there to have a problem that only becoming the chairman would resolve.
She got some shipping her with Scratch but that pretty much died out when Adia was introduced, except for the handful of people who inexplicably thought they were the same person.
Which episode is the best one?
To me is throne where they can only say yes/no
Why are you asking me about that?
Sex with Libby
Imagine the smell
He didn't do anything, it was the dyke director who suggested a chubby redhead for the former rich girl. Buzz off, Lumity fapper.
homie she was barely in the show, Ollie was actively involved in several episodes
Yeah, because she wasn't meant to be the third friend. And the reason why those dumbases wanted to ship between the three girls, it's because they thought the show was considered to be TOH 2.0. but they were wrong
And the funniest thing is that Andrea at least in the context of what was actually animated never actually got to complete her stupid story arc so you're left to believe this was a really strange phase of Andrea's life she grew out of after she bankrupted her daddy's company
We all know Molly’s real love interest
Killed the fanbase, at least
>Libby posing for a photo with Taika Waititi on the set of "Jojo Rabbit"
Thanks for reminding me to kneel to BillBob, /u/gay SLAYERS. I almost forgot to do that today.
This is the most thoroughly leaked show in recent memory.
Is it?
Yes
I was surprised watching the season 2 end to find that the Anon who called Geoff was the ghost that scared Ollie's dad at the start of the season was right. I'm supposing the were part of all the production leaks.
No, it was just really obvious
>have an entire half-hour episode about oh noes a family of ghost hunters moved in and we have a ghost, bet this'll lead to some wacky misadventures
>forget to make any episodes about them actually hunting ghosts
It's like if Road Runner cartoons were just Wile E. Coyote sitting around at home thinking of plans to catch the Road Runner at some point in the future.
Oh it gets worse. As far as the S3 scripts were concerned any Ghost related plot is exclusively an Olly related problem meaning they created a Danny Phantom family for no other reason other then to introduce Poly
Its like how you're not actually suppose to care about the other members of Molly's family especially her dad
Just shut the frick up already man.
The show was ruined when TOH was finished.
People stopped following DisneyTVA shows since they got the thinking of everything after TOH will be pre-schoolar shit, not even people care about Moon Girl since Disney only want episodic shows easy to do re-runs.
Everyone transitioned to Murder Drones or Hazbin Hotel.
Views in cable for Moon Girl and Moly were super low and Hayley doesn't get a S2 greenlit...
70,000 if I remember correctly
I remember when threads said Molly McGee would be the next big Disney cartoon.
Frick man. I don't care about a third Molly season. I wish DC Superhero Girls had gotten another season.
But Ollie was a good character, it is just that his family bein fricking ghost hunters was a stupid idea.
dc super hero girls could have been a long running series if it's own creator didn't abandon it.
season 1 was so good and season 2 was ok but it clearly fell off.
>Ollie was a good character if you ignore that the entire premise of is character is stupid
yeah
Bet this person back pedaled hard and said what he really meant to say was Moon Girl would get that luxury since its a marvel product
Now it is next after Hailey's season is finished
Let me guess, that post was by Tribegay since it randomly seethes over Dana for zero reason?
I can't even imagine the state of the show if it got a 5th or 6th season at the rate it was going with season 2 and those season 3 scripts.
>Darryl becomes the chairman for an entire season
>episodes about diarrhea, minimum wage, and the importance of consent
>not a single new ghost introduced since early season 2
>Half hour special to learn that Scratch's name ends with the letter D
>Andrea goes back to her home planet and in exchange we get more Libby and June focused plots
That genuinely sounds good. More June is desperately needed and Libby segments are often pretty good.
>thinking there'd ever be a June focused episode in even a dozen seasons
Pffttt
Prophet or a secret executive?
That Mollygay cope ages like milk, just like The Owl House, Molly Mcgee, and Hailey's on it.
>Molly
>just like Molly
Holy ESL
Yeah, Molly Mcgee, that's the name of the show. Did you suffer brain damage and forget the name of the cartoon thread that you're posting on?
You are saying that Molly is just like itself.
What the frick are you even yapping about? Not one person on this planet has ever referred to this show as "The Ghost." It has always been Mollymcgee.
The Ghost.
Looks like I did, just now.
Then you can take that title to the grave along with this canceled show.
The ghost.
That first post seems to be a parody of those "Trump won't be convicted / Trump will be out of jail in just 20 years" shitposts. It actually makes me sad that people early on had such optimism for this show though I'm not sure how sincere they are being in that instance. Around October and November of 2021 is when episodes like "Monumental Disaster" premiered so the problems and cracks were already starting to show.
Still, I don't think anyone, not even the people working on this show, expected it to be cancelled so fast. If the same wasn't happening to other shows like Hailey and MGDD I'd suspect that something went awry behind the scenes, but this seems to be a studio-wide thing.
Did people react badly to the town founder episode?
It was probably the first episode that caused some backlash and divisiveness. The whole "Wammin' Really Built History" angle felt forced and out of tone with this show. It wasn't a complete wash though. Tug was an entertaining character, but he became sidelined afterward (ironically, he still shows up to help the heroes more than his fatass sister does). It also introduced Libby's bloodhound of truth thing. But overall... it's a pointless episode. We've done this "Town founder is really a fraud" thing on so many other shows its starting to feel disingenuous, undermining, and inherently israeli.
And then in season 2 a white man is given credit for a woman of color’s accomplishments and this is portrayed as being perfectly fine
>It also introduced Libby's bloodhound of truth thing
"Scratch the Surface" did it first actually.
>um ackchually [factually incorrect statement]
Every time.
That came out later. Monumental Disaster even set up the lead in for that at the end of the episode (when Libby says she's investigating supernatural blah blah blah).
>he still shows up to help the heroes more than his fatass sister does
I don't recall seeing this at all
DTVA is just one long string of people going “they cancelled the show I like for THIS?!” And then that show becomes the show they liked that got cancelled for the next bad new thing
We said that before watching S2
Libby's mom has been "gifted" and "blessed"...definitely life has "endowed" her with all the right "equipment" for motherhood for sure
Leah got big breasts
This is the real point when the shark jumped the carp
If Molly McGee were the 5 stages of Grief this scene right here lingers between denial and anger
I'd argue the real shark jumping moment was Andrea getting Molly her house back. Its like they spedrun 2 and a half seasons of development just to race to Andrea's redemption arc as fast as possible
But the real shark jumping moment, the one where we got to the bargaining step of the 5 stages of Grief was Davenports on Demand which is the actual moment the show was finished.
True
>Molly but a boy
>But with less flaws
Who the frick thought this was a good idea?
Whoever come up with this deserves not getting any job as a writer ever again.
Be real with me Cinemaphile
100% honesty here
Would this have made you like him more?
No. Molly already has a white male love interest.
Him being "white tolorance of brown" wasn't the problem, moron. In fact I'd hate him more if he looked like this.
He's just piss poor boring propped as something special, nuff said.
Regardless of race, man babies viewed him (gary-sue) as a wiener block. And it's something most fandoms do, just look at most of the loud sisters
I know the real problem
He wasn't white, ethnic girls love white boys and the recent failure of many cartoons is the lack of them as either main characters or love interests.
In the theoretical third-season, Wasn't he meant to get cursed with dementia and become like the Lich-King in the Ghost world [replacing Scratch as chairman somehow] and the finale was going to be everyone having to 'Go ghost!' and save him or smth?
No, that actually wasn't building up to any sort of climax or payoff, per the words of the writers.
Its literal Hazbin shit. Like its so similar to Viv's plot but you switch out human souls for demons.
This is like the twentieth fricking time you've said this, what the frick are you even talking about?
Hailey and Molly just plain ol' suck but it's the crew's fault it sucks, never once they admitted to follow the premise of their plot. if you were watching for the ghosts or the chaos bots then you're a moron.
Moon Grill is a disappointment by design. they had the marvel universe and chose to ignore it.
Third season would have been worth it, despite the fact the quality seemed to be getting worse and worse the longer it went on, if only because of the fact that we probably could have gotten like ~2 more Libby & Andrea episodes each, Which would have made another season of Molly and her moronic family and boyfriendu worth it.
Libby's Ep being a special kind of terrible almost border lining on a shitpost
We have the S3 script TL;DR's and [one?] of the Libby episodes of S3 was going to be the towns permit officer being a literal EVIL CHOOOOOOOD and Libby and Molly singing off against him...or smth.
>Romance where nothing goes wrong and everyone is immediately happy
>Takes up half the season
SECOND BY SECOND YOU WASTE MY TIME.
Would you have preferred contrived bullshit drama?
YES.
I would've preferred no romance at all.
stories without drama are boring. shit has to happen to have a story.
Shit does happen you're just upset that what happened wasn't your favorite side character and the main character mashing their pussies together
People watch Molly for the romance and relationships?
What else is there?
More like people watch Molly for the cute girls, which is why they get angry that one of them got a boyfriend because the girl was "taken" from them, whereas if it were yuri they'd be fine with that because both of the girls could both still belong to him
At least I assume that's the yurigay mindset
It's more that all through elementary school I grew up with girls talking nonstop about boys in magazines, then in junior high and high school about their boyfriends and the boyfriends of girls they hate, then about movie stars in their 20s and the absolute last fricking thing I want to see in a cartoon is a girl obsessively talking about boys.
That's on you for spending all your time hanging around with girls like a homosexual instead of finding other blokes to share your interests with, can't expect the showrunners to cater to your extremely specific grievance
The guys were similar, actually.
I'm almost 40 now. Some people's entire personality revolves around the opposite sex and they are the most annoying fricking people on the planet. And they don't grow out of it. They either get married or become an incel and make THAT their personality.
You know what that's fair, I guess I just don't mind in this show since it seems more like an innocent childlike crush that's obviously a phase instead of an annoying gay who never shuts up about whatever hot babe caught his eye that day every day
looks like the annoying self-insert "everyman" type of character. also basedfacing.
Funny thing is that Cinemaphile doesn't care about the actual ghost while on every other site Scratch fangirls want him to put his seed in their belly
Why the genuine frick are there multiple of these tumblr or Twitter girls who draw themselves dating Scratch.
Why not?
Makes me feel like I got a chance
>Not understanding Scratch's raw sex appeal
No wonder Adia waited way unto her forties for him, I bet she still has time to give him Kids.
Why do they draw black people like that
>Molly is sad that Scratch is gone
>She feels alone in her room
>Then Molly realizes that she hasn't been alone in her room since moving to Brighton
>It's naked time
I don't think 100% Molly McGee would be as harshly regarded if they didn't just completely shit on Molly's Irish heritage just to make a point. Or is it Scottish? We never really find that out either. We never get a heritage lore dropping granny like Nin for Pete's side, just his fat butthole siblings. Or an episode about Molly feeling inadequate because her cousins on Pete's side are all white Celtic BVLLS while she is a mutt, which makes more sense to make than "my muttoid cousin speaks slightly better Thai than me".
Yeah, that it not once had a single nod towards her dad's racial identity was a weird choice. Especially after she made such a big deal of her mom's. Though even if they did, I'm not sure how much of a difference it would have made considering how the segment went. Really makes me wonder what they were thinking with that one and Molly's identity issue there.
Heck yeah. Our girl is working it thoroughly and not at all letting up. Good stuff anon. June very cute and seeing her getting some love like this is cool.
He was so real for this though:
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not bad, she kinda looks like irma from tmnt cartoon or jeanette from the chipmunk adventure
i guess it's just the ponytail and glasses but they all looks very similar
He was ok
The oral fixation a autistic girl would have during a blowjob would be amazing. She would either have a pattern or just be random trying to find whatever gives her the best mouth feel. Both leading to a long, slow, blowjob that gets increasingly better
Her dad has recessive phenotypes so it was very likely that Molly wouldn't have looked like him at all so her looking just like the family would be reasonable to do although I would have preferred if they made them have more brownish grey hair shine rather than red just for the sake of making Molly actually look different like someone mixed usually does
Aren't autistic people mostly asexual?
Not necessarily, Cinemaphile homies are autistic as hell and horny mfs
Walnuts, peanuts, pineapple smells
If Ollie was cut then all of his time could have been spent on building the girl trios friendship up like in Period Piece, or flesh out Scratch's identity mystery more
Wish that happened
>Male MC with female side character love interest good
>Female MC with male side character love interest bad
why is this?
I never said that was good.
buy some apples
How much?
Four bits a piece