>RT has no animation department
>Kerry admitted that they need to outsource animation and distribution
>Sources say that according to a WB insider that RT is on the chopping block
>RT has less youtube engagement than machinima when it got shut down
>Merch sales not moving
>Reputation in the toilet
>Deleted all of their good content to pay wall it on their shitty website
>Crossovers flopped
>Barb let it slip that crunchyroll had to pay for volume 9 to be made otherwise it wouldn't have happened at all.
Are people still delusional enough to think that RWBY volume 10 is coming out? No one even likes this show anymore except a few tumblrites.
RT doesn't cancel their shows, so as long as it continues to exist V10 is definitely coming out, even if it's in 2033.
Like RT will still exist by 2033.
>so as long as it continues to exist V10 is definitely coming out
I give it until the end of the year.
I give it 7 months
Why that long specifically?
Robin Rose loves his big(-titty) sis.
Yang needs to kiss Ruby and tell her everything is gonna be ok
Based.
Willow.
>before they ruin Blake even further
Blake was always shit.
>before White Knight can be a thing
homosexual, it's a kino ship!
God damn look at the size of those squished boobs.
It's a crime they reduced her boobs after V3. But at least they came back in the floop movie.
Nice.
Have a nice pic.
The only good nu-Ruby trait.
Very nice. Almost pre-haircut Blake nice.
>Crossovers flopped
What crossover, the fighting game? I heard it did pretty well
It's a one sided love
No, the Justice League movies. And comics.
How do we know those even flopped
the fighting game is also widely considered shit among fighter players. Not that it's rwby's fault,. but it's another property that's not doing them any favors.
>widely considered shit among fighter players
Cross tag? Horeshit that game got showered in praise
Sources for these claims, especially for the first two about the animation department and Kerry? Not challenging, just want to see the full context for myself.
You can ignore what this youtube says, but he does have the video of kerry talking about how Ruby relies on partners. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjZEYK7cH6Q
They also fired their animation department a while ago, there's a lot of sources on that. Lot's of people complaining. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dprMUbWWXo
Here is barb admitting they needed Crunchyroll money. The subreddit had a cope fest about this. https://www.reddit.com/r/roosterteeth/comments/18madrg/comment/ke5cfw9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Them looking for ways to make v10
https://www.reddit.com/r/roosterteeth/comments/18madrg/comment/ke5g1q7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
say that according to a WB insider that RT is on the chopping block
Big if true.
>>RT has less youtube engagement than machinima when it got shut down
I'm gonna need a source for this one.
>I'm gonna need a source for this one.
go to the youtube page?
>WB and possibly even Crunchyroll own RWBY and will likely force a reboot on it to garner a few extra bucks out of whoever still cares about it
>realistically no hope for the show to be finished in the indie scene with the current story by whoever is left on the RT team since they no longer own it
Not even in his wildest choreographic dreams could Monty have imagined that this is how his show would have ended.
Will reboot Ruby have a character arc where she learns to overcome her bigotry and accept her sister's romantic partner choice?
Why would Ruby need an arc to bang her sister?
There won’t be any need for that, seeing as RWBY reboot will be a nip-produced SoL harem anime centered around the chad self-insert Jaune in Beacon Academy turning every girl straight for him while he’s too moronic to go after anyone except Weiss.
almoust canon already
God it must kill them inside that the biggest meme to come out of Volume 9 is that the main character is homophobic.
If RWBY ever gets rebooted, they should make it a canon trait of Ruby. That way, we can easily shut down WhiteRose.
Ruby should be shipped with Oscar so the interracial ship pisses off the incels. Weebs and incels need to frick off from this show.
Ruby is Asian so all her ships are technically interracial. To be fair, incels don't see Asian women as "interractial" and many are even OK with black chicks as long as the guy is white
How is Ruby Asian? Tai is white as frick. He's AT MOST half Asian, which would only make Ruby a 4th.
If we are going based off of names then Blake is Italian.
Ruby's parents (Summer and Qrow) are Asians, hence Ruby is Asian. It's not rocket science
>Summer and Qrow
You fricking stupid moron.
It's already canon that Summer fricked her entire team
The frick? Why?
What a bawd.
>"We all had her! But Taiyang married her!"
>I HAVE A PLAN
>what’s your plan Salem
>WE JUST NEED MORE RELICS AND POWERS
Damn, what a loser.
Reminder: If everyone in your friend group fricked the only chick in it, don't fricking marry her.
>Never get with the chick who's been passed around in your social circle.
>Never entertain a long-distance relationship because she is most definitely cheating.
>You can't fix her. Never be Captain Save-a-Ho.
>Don't let yourself get friend-zoned IE don't be her fricking friend. If she's not into you like that, give up on her completely.
>If your girl got drunk at a party and got frisky with some other dude, dump her. Even if it was just a kiss, no forgiveness.
>If your girl gets frisky with another chick, dump her. That's still cheating.
>If your girl isn't giving you any for several days in a row, dump her. She's either getting fricked somewhere else or she's playing games.
Unironically yes to the middle two.
How do we know that Ruby is even Taiyang's daughter?
Ruby is Qrow's daughter
This is why paternity tests should be standard practice. Motherfricker got tricked into raising another man’s child.
Taiyang accepted the deal.
>implying
>Taiyang accepted the deal.
If so, he’s a loser.
You wouldn't adopt a baby Ruby who would grow up to see you as her own father?
>the baby grows.
>she is mentally moronic.
no, thanks.
Blame it on age, but being responsible for raising the hero of the world, who's stupid but pure-hearted and looks back at her family (you) with nothing but love hits something for me.
It would be fun, but I'd at least hope to raise her to have some ideas on HOW to reach those goals instead of being stuck in a negative feedback loop of never reaching for those dreams.
>Ruby: Daddy, can you read me a book before bed?
>Anon: sure, my little cookie, I'll read you your favorite book... the law book of the four kingdoms.
>Ruby: YAY!
You could say so
lolmao, I said I don't care cause no one of it matters
RT won't die until they decide to finish RWBY
How does none of it matter? Dude they admitted they need someone else to pay for and animate the show for it to continue. Who the hell is going to do that?
I'll laugh if they crowd fund it.
I doubt they can crowd fund the 6 million dollars it takes to make a volume.
BEHOLD
the most literate RWBY fan
>Ruby's parents
>Summer and Qrow
Just because it's something that MnK would write as yet another soap opera plot twist for V10 doesn't make it true.
Miles said in a reddit ama that he's not her father almost a decade ago.
>Don't trust their lies
Show breasts and timestamp.
No, she's made for Jaune. And even if WhiteKnight is endgame, she has better men to choose outside that farmhand.
Doing shit out of spite is a good way to tank your series. Do what works for the story, and not what will piss off the “incels”. Most fiction nowadays are literally just that and they all suck.
This is the exact mentality that ruined RT in the first place.
"Our core audience are mostly white and Asian dudes!? LET'S SHIP OFF THEIR WAIFU TO PISS THEM OFF AND APPEAL TO TUMBLR!!"
Brilliant, another reason Oscar needs to go.
Except Rooster Teeth fandom was actually quite mixed with all kinds of people, it was never your standard isekai shonen fanbase full of nothing by white nerds and asians
It is a lot more mixed than average yeah though it does break down into two camps. The stereotypical tumblrites, RT simps, etc are the bitter few that still cling to it. I’ve seen reasonable amounts of various groups including gun nerds, vidya nerds, christians and workout bros, artists and animators, etc, but everyone else is in the camp of ‘the show sucks I don’t even watch it’ and just talk about random stuff
I think whiterose was pretty definitvely shut down in V9. Weiss was on the verge of fricking Jaune.
Not if the shitty kitty gets to him first.
It would be a good thing if it got a reboot, but it would need to be done by people who actually understand what made the initial series good and also understand anime. The problem is they will get people JUST LIKE the current crew who will make the same dumb writing mistakes and terrible decisions. A lot of the shit that plagues RWBY plagues the majority of entertainment now. I don't have hope for a reboot either because they'll just do the same fricking thing again. They need people who don't have the west coast mindset. The only people who could reboot it into something mildly entertaining are the japanese, who would still water it down. (I know ice queendom wasn't very good but that's mostly from RT meddling.)
What did they change?
There aren't specifics beyond "heavy involvement with the script". The only specific as far as I know is that they removed a hot spring scene because RT chimped.
>they removed a hot spring scene because RT chimped.
gays.
ofc they chimped over that
That scene could've been the thing that gave life to this dead franchise. RT is only getting what they deserve.
Well, sorta. Only half of RWBY would look good in a hot spring.
which half?
Blake and Yang. Not the two flatties.
>It would be a good thing if it got a reboot, but it would need to be done by people who actually understand what made the initial series good and also understand anime
So it will turn into an ise...wait the latest season was an isekai
They wouldn't even need to understand anime. Just American weeb culture in the early 10's. Listen to Red Like Roses II again sometime, that particular blend of j-rock and angsty buttrock is what defined RWBY's original vision. Just look at a fricking picture of Monty and you'll know the tone and style to shoot for.
But too many people are still embarrassed by that era to do RWBY justice.
And here I thought I was the only one that called it buttrock.
Or just make it like Kingdom Hearts. People love that shit still.
I wonder if there is an alternate universe out there where people don't lie out of their ass when they talk about RWBY.
A simple adventure show with girls is what RWBY has consistently been since V1 and the literal and only reason RWBY is not seen critically good by reddit morons and Cinemaphile pol tourists is BECAUSE its a simple adventure show.
Everyone wants every cartoon under the sun to be the next reincarnation of Avatar The Last Airbender and if something keeps it simple and lowkey, every moron on the internet jumps on it to call it shitty.
RWBY has been kept at the same exact vision and level of quality since Volume 1. A very, very simple show about adventure with some basic but fun character moments. That's it. Its literally just edgier fricking Winx Club.
Nothing has gotten worse, nothing has gotten stale, you morons just can't accept that your brains are so rotted by shitty youtube media analysis that you cannot enjoy simple stuff anymore.
Volume 9 was the only one I thought was kinda mid and that's just cause I didin't like the idea of doing a fairy tale land in a show that was already a parody of a fairy tale land.
Its 2023 and I still haven't seen a single RWBY critique that actually makes sense from the perspective of what the show is.
RWBY has never been a "simple adventure show".
Volume 1-3 was a poor attempt at Soul Eater mixed with laying the foundation of racial conflicts that never actually seemed relevant. I think it took 7 or 8 volumes to actually see any racism against Faunus beyond simple bullying over someone being different.
Volumes 4-5 are an attempt at an ambitious 'save the world' plot that goes nowhere.
6 was the same, except it had one really good episode and lots of bad ones.
7 was an overt "Trump bad, Hillary good" analogue.
8 had some of the most horrible character arcs in Cinemaphile history, ESPECIALLY killing off Penny for zero good reason other than drama and her arc was over.
9 was a filler shitshow and the franchise dies on a wet fart.
So shut up. RT had 3 seasons of quirky but mediocre anime-inspired innocence and 6 seasons of not even good drama-tragedy that screwed over its animation crews and chewed and spat out god knows how many talented people. That's irrefutable.
>Volume 1-3 was a poor attempt at Soul Eater mixed with laying the foundation of racial conflicts that never actually seemed relevant. I think it took 7 or 8 volumes to actually see any racism against Faunus beyond simple bullying over someone being different.
So a half baked non important aspect of a simple show?
>Volumes 4-5 are an attempt at an ambitious 'save the world' plot that goes nowhere.
So the prospect of this simple adventure show is "save the world."?
>6 was the same, except it had one really good episode and lots of bad ones.
>7 was an overt "Trump bad, Hillary good" analogue.
Jaques's economic and political goal is not even in the same ballpark as Trump's. Also, again, these things fit right into the things these kind of shows do (Winx club had about 5 political plotlines just to aid the main plot)
>8 had some of the most horrible character arcs in Cinemaphile history, ESPECIALLY killing off Penny for zero good reason other than drama and her arc was over.
8 was by far the best recieved volume ever with threads on Cinemaphile's rwby general being constantly filled with praise every episode drop (as with every RWBY season. Cinemaphile only hates RWBY when its not airing lmfao)
RWBY is just the show everyone picked as "baby's first horribly made youtube analysis" and you can't really recover from the youtuber shitshow.
Are you fricking moronic? Not only is your point about it being a "simple adventure show" wrong but you're just being disingenuous. What fricking lies are people saying? Tell mere where people have "lied".
>Volume 8 was well received
Now that's a fricking lie. An absolute revisionist statement pulled out your ass. Volume 8 was shat on not only for ironwood's character assassination but also just how in the wrong the main cast were. The deus ex machina staff, everything with penny, I could go on. It was terrible and everyone thought it was terrible. You're the liar here. And you're "simple adventure show" shit is the same logic of "it's a cartoon". The issue is they didn't keep it fricking simple after volume 3. They decided to make this grand epic. They're the ones who constantly draw comparisons to avatar, Jaune was literally "their soka" as monty put it. They are the ones wanting it to be avatar, not us dude. If they had kept it a simple show it would have been much better but they are trying to write a grand epic "like game of thrones" as they put it when they are incapable of doing it. Introducing melodrama that they can't handle writing.
No, it hasn't had the same quality and vision since volume 1, you're an idiot talking out your ass. It's so different just at face value. There's no defending the absolutely braindead writing. Your criticism of everyone here is just wrong.
Hey dumbass, I don't need some YouTuber to tell me this show is shit. I formed my own opinions. RT doesn't know who to make good characters and their shitty political ideology informed bad writing decisions and character designs. They turned a show about cute girls fighting monsters into a show about lesbians having drama. And they kept it anything but fricking simple.
>A simple adventure show with girls is what RWBY has consistently been since V1 and the literal and only reason RWBY is not seen critically good by reddit morons and Cinemaphile pol tourists is BECAUSE its a simple adventure show.
>Nothing has gotten worse, nothing has gotten stale, you morons just can't accept that your brains are so rotted by shitty youtube media analysis that you cannot enjoy simple stuff anymore.
>I wonder if there is an alternate universe out there where people don't lie out of their ass when they talk about RWBY.
No it's just a communication issue.
Yes, there is a lot of unreasonable talk about RWBY, but instead of assuming bad faith, you should look to the fundamental point behind shitposts.
People who whine about Adam don't do so because they hate Bees: the simple fact is that Adam was portrayed as an immensely important villain in the first couple seasons, only for his role to get significantly reduced alongside the Faunus plot.
People who hate-wank on Bumblebee are really just sad that their ship didn't sail and they have a chip on their shoulder with how aggressive some fans were at slandering Sun during V4.
The only way some people can effectively voice this dissatisfaction and get a response is by taking these extreme positions.
If you can't look at the underlying reason, it's very easy to cast any criticism as bad faith. But I don't think anyone would disagree that Seinna Khan and the White Fang got shafted and could have had a better role in the story. I don't think anyone would disagree that BlackSun and Bumblebee should have been a love triangle to split the fandom into a toxic ship war.
Not enough honest discussion on fundamental truths like: Yes, people are going to quit a show over their favorite character dying? I don't think it's a lie when someone says they quit the show over Pyrrha dying... because I've met tons of people who have said that.
*shouldn't have been some stupid ass love-triangle that split the fandom into a toxic ship war.
jfc don't get it twisted, that was ass for everyone involved. Would have rather had Blake and Yang be a lot more direct with the Yuri than to live in this future. The fact that history is repeating with Ruby, Weiss and Oscar is wack as well.
Honestly such a fate is deserved given how RoosterTeeth’s just seemingly filled with scumbags all over the board, from treating their animators like shit to certain noticeable figures out here grooming underaged fans and having affairs. This company was bound to collapse, RoosterTeeth should’ve stayed as a humble studio of creatives, it started as two guys fricking around in Halo for gods sake.
>WB and possibly even Crunchyroll own RWBY
They will surely have a legal battle if anyone tries to pick up or restart ruby.
Not WB. They own it outright.
I hope WB because they are willing to sale stuff, and have been doing it for fairly cheap unlike places like disney that would rather let it rot or just own it to make a knock off.
the ship name "lancaster" is still my favorite thing to come out of this show. so clever.
Serves em right for making Blake a short haired dyke.
All RT had to do with RWBY was make a show about hot girls getting into cool fights with monsters. That's seriously it, they show could've had barely any dialogue and no plot. Instead they ruined everything by going in the complete opposite direction. They deserve everything bad that happens to them for fricking up something that should have been unfrickupable.
Rip
?
The bullet is still in the casing after being fired.
It's a slow-motion shot meant to look cool but it just ends up drawing attention to the error.
Crescent Rose fires 60% more bullet per bullet!
Show died with Pyrrha anyway
Somnius, pls
What do they even do if they outsource all production?
If - and if - Rooster Teeth were shut down; RWBY will outlive it and it will be producer by another studio.
I know people didn't like Ice Queendom but would it be better if they just sold the IP to the Japanese?
RT fricked around with the script and ruined everything with Ice queendom. Just let the japanese have free rein and they can make something happen.
I honestly think it should be public domain
But honestly Ice Queendom was OK but honestly was held back by how it had to be “canon-compliant” and couldn’t simply exist as it’s own retelling
I think the manga by Shirow Miwa honestly captures the original vibe and appeal of the show the best, then again a lot of the JPN RWBY material seems to heavily prefer the Beacon stuff than anything afterwords. Which makes sense, since that was when the show was it’s height in popularity
>“canon-compliant”
which was stupid because it didn't add anything new, just a new type of grimm and a professor who will never be mentioned or seen again.
That's why it's canon-compliant. It doesn't interfere with the main story.
What if RT goes to the Daily Wire streaming?
They’re hard leftists, they’d rather nuke their company
>They’re hard leftists
LOL no they aren't, they're redneck Texans who hate women and minorities
Daily Wire literally has women and minorities on their payroll.
The idea of RWBY becoming a story pushing traditional values, warnings, and lessons like fairy tales actually were would be cool
The whole thing was inspired by fairy tales. Ruby’s Little Red Riding Hood.
They wouldn't be dying if they were. I can't state how much Trump Derangement Syndrome killed that company.
I blame them going woke for roughly 60% of their problems. Fundamentally it destroyed the quality of their shows and ruined the aesthetic of RWBY. NO ONE WANTS BY MERCH OF UGLY DYKES!!
I honestly still can't wrap my head around how they managed to frick up something this simple. All they had to do was stick to the battle hogwarts thing and everything would've been fine.
People on Cinemaphile will seeth at me for this, but it's leftist mind poison.
A LOT of their dumb decisions regarding the show and RT in general has been because of their politics. Like firing OG cast members for having wrongthink opinions, they way they write and design certain characters, shitty hamfisted pandering, and the general american left coast style of writing where shit gets turned into therapy talk sessions. Character assassinations and and ditching focusing on cooler OG characters in favor of their new progressive ones. The biggest flaw is destroying the style in character designs to make them "realistic" and "mature" and "less sexualized". And because they are shitty people with warped morality when they try to write characters we are supposed to like they come off as insufferable (Robyn hill and her band of b***hes). And no one wants to buy merch of ugly unlikable c**ts.
You're not wrong but I doubt that's all. I'm fairly certain some of the worst decisions were made out of pure spite. Like, most of the writers and directors of this shitshow are so vindictive and hateful to people who liked the early stuff that they actually go out of their way to make it worse.
I agree with this, and I can see it. I think there's a hubris in a lot of modern writers. I could imagine them having a chip on their shoulder over people not liking the direction they took the show in (which is so different from what it was before) and just spitting people. Which, shocker, caused a lot of those fans to leave. If you ever listen to their dvd commentary they just pat themselves on the back and suck each other off at every turn. They think they're just better.
What a bunch of losers.
Couldn't have said it better myself
Hell RWBY wasn't the only one affected. Red vs Blue had the same shit happen to it. They spent years building up Tucker's character as the new leader of the reds/blues even being better at it then the Freelancers, only for the time travel shit to happen and he's reverted back to his blood gultch self. But don't worry they intoduce new characters no one likes who are way better then the old group we spent 10 years following.
Nah, blame the lack of proper funding for the show. Getting rid of Dillon Gu + Shane and walking away from the action-focus style of RWBY storyboarding was the real issue. When you have an animation budget that restricts you to 3 fights a volume - you're going to have to spend a lot of time on dialogue and character development.
RWBY was never good you homosexuals go back to /trash/
Then the hog was brought in.
🙂
>grooming cinder
I have never liked RWBYs story but I think the characters all look pretty cool. Is Jaun still being treated like the main character in the newer stuff?
>is Jaun still being treated like the main character in the newer stuff?
Motherfricker.Rwby had v6-v9 to get you to like/view Ruby as the MC. If you still don't (I really don't like team rwby anymore) then the issue ain't with Jaune. Oscar was a massive mistake.
No, that's Oscar now.
I hate how they took a character with a great design, then had him possess a podunk child.
Being a RWBY fan is like being in a abusive relationship.
Is Kali or Willow hotter?
Kali, and it's not even close.
Cat milf, it's not even close.
>Crossovers flopped
The crossovers literally nobody in the world ever asked for flopped? Who could've guessed?
>it's over
Damn... it really is over for this group, huh? I mean, the writing was on the wall for a few years now, but there was a time I figured I would have died a young death before RT even came close to declining and/or self-destructing. Ignoring who these guys were and the crap they pulled BTS, I unironically enjoyed their slop. Hard to believe that we're nearing the end of the road for this company.
YYYYEEEEEESSS!!! FRICK YOU ROOSTER TEETH!!!
>archived account
>Are people still delusional enough to think that RWBY volume 10 is coming out?
No, nobody is. Even when season 9 came out and this place had an insane RWBY general I doubt many believed there would be S10.
The entire premise and worldbuilding and writing and nearly everything about this show was always dogshit from the begining.
Anyways whatever happened to Shane/Dillon Goo
who is the s in this pic
stannis baratheon from asoiaf
Let it die before they ruin Blake even further, and before White Knight can be a thing
Man, look how hot she used to be.
I'm more worried they'd make Rosegarden a thing. I'm glad the show is getting cancelled before they thoroughly ruin Ruby as a character.
She has been ruined though, she's a lying traitorous idiot.
But also a funny homophobe,
V10 not happening is the best thing for the quality. It’ll stop them from totally ruining whatever is left.
Lancaster is the solution
I think besides writing a lot of rwby was hampered by the terrible fricking redesigns, its so fricking sad what they did to them all. Who's going to get invested in characters that look like ass???
The writing was all of RT's inability to pick up the ball after Monty's death. The designs though were always gonna be ruined no matter what because he's the American version of that Final Fantasy dev walking around like a fricking Final Fantasy character IRL.
>Source
If we had gotten more KnightLight, the movie wouldn't have flopped. Or Bruce fricking Weiss.
I love Arslan Altan! She’s cute! Cute! CUTE!!!
>don't think Ruby and Weiss would look good in a hot spring
homosexuals.
So how would the rest of team RWBY react if they discovered that Ruby got Penny teen pargent?
"Eh, she'll be dead again soon."
Sad, Weiss will never get to be the cool rich aunt.
That's not possible, Ruby has a vegana and two X chromosomes
Okay first all things are possible with Allah, second skill issue.
Why did Warner Brothers buy Rooster Teeth if they didn't want to do anything with RWBY? What else is there of value in that company?
They didn't directly buy roosterteeth. They bought out some other company that happened to own RT.
Which one?
Fullscreen which was owned by AT&T.
I didn't realize someone bothered to buy them out before WB.
To be fair that was back before they went to complete shit and RWBY was at it's peak.
I'm still mad about Penny
I still can't get over they wasted Adam. That's like killing off your Sasuke.
that was so fricking moronic
>Trump Derangement Syndrome
What if:
>RWBY Sisterhood comes back and its awesome
But:
>you have to include the Tangerine Tyrant somehow
How would this work without wrecking the show
Make him part of the old peaceful White Fang. The mixed messaging will be too confusing for anyone to get mad.
Either a cartoonishly evil member of Salem's rogue's gallery, or a himbo hunter or politician. Either way, through some "Maybe Orange Man NOT 100% bad," to really shove it to RT.
She won.
Yes.
Might as well end it like that. Team rwby were so fricking incompetent
>show will end without RWBY defeating Salem
>show will end without even a draft of a plan to beat Salem
>MnK never gave a single thought to how Salem was going to be defeated
>because they wanted to milk this show as long as possible, and didn't want to give it a chance to end naturally
>even though they knew RT was going downhill for years, and RWBY's popularity was only shrinking more and more, they desperately tried to keep this show going forever instead of giving the fans a satisfying ending before the company closed down
These guys are actual scumbags. Everyone attributes the lack of any gameplan against Salem to the writers' incompetence, but I think they just straight-up prioritized money over the fans' happiness and the show's integrity.
idk why any of this is bad, this just keeps the next team with actual writers most likely eastern more freedom. Best for them to not even be tainted by whatever poor ending MnK came up with. Really the whole series needs a reboot and overhaul.
This is why I don't want a V10.
I don't want Roosterteeth's garbage ending. They've already ruined so much. They're definitely going to have Ruby get with Oscar. They are going to do more dumb shit to make team RWBY more unlikable. Have a scene of Sun cheering on bumblebee just to hammer it home.
Roosterteeth dong deserve RWBY. I would love nothing more than for the company to end and this shit show that is the main series to not get the go ahead. Rather than having a shit ending and the series be put to rest, I want it to have a second chance. I don't want the finality of a RT ending. RT going under and not finishing RWBY is the biggest white pill I have about this show.
I actually ship rosegarden, but yeah I agree best to leave the rot where it is manageable. Just a bit of pruning could save the body but if we leave them at the helm till the end it will be scorched earth.
It deserves it, weird warner hasn't done it yet. Really my biggest fear is RT sells rwby as a tax write off. But you can techincally buy a tax write off back but it's a b***h in a half to do. Really yeah RT dying but rwby surviving would be the ultimate irony and best thing as it's the last good useable ip. I mean we do have camp camp and nomad of nowhere but both aren't that good and don't have a huge following to support it. I feel even old fans would come back to give a rwby reboot done by not RT a chance.
RWBY needs a reboot badly by an Easter studio without RT's involvement. RWBY doesn't even fit with the rest of their content, it sticks out like a sore thumb.
But I'll be honest, if they do a reboot they shouldn't have Oscar. I don't think he's a good character and I don't like his addition to the story, much less as Ruby's romance. N&D, Lancaster, and even WR are all better. Oscar is a character created for the Tumblr crowd who hated Jaune imo. I don't even think there should be a fall of Beacon or Ozpin death, so I don't think there should be an Oscar.
Eastern or French.
I think a Japanese studio would be better than a French one, but it would still be better than RT.
A French studio would certainly handle a 3D artstyle better than a Japanese one, if Code Lyoko's anything to go by
Maybe they could collab. But honestly I'd be fine with 2D IF it gave us some mappa or ufotable kino.
Or I could just go over there and handle the 3D animation.
Yeah that's true but really slowly RT is having less and less content. But they tried for another one like rwby i.e Gen:lock lol
I feel they could make oscar good, but you aren't wrong not much would change without him. I mean they would need a reincarnated body but they could just skip it. Whoa now let's not go to crazy I'll concede the oscar point but the fall of beacon was good and the mentor dying as well. It was how the aftermath was handled that was terrible. I still do think someone could make oscar good and I really wanted to like him so I have a softspot for him and whitley.
True but he's just a cute kid you know? It's more just modern RT writing specifically in rwby as camp camp stayed a bit edgy unlike rwby that became neutered. I'd never get rid of jaune for oscar but I kind of want both we need as many boys as we can get kek. But again i get the point most of my love for oscar comes from fanfics and fanart.
I feel in most cases the reboot would likely either go lancaster or rosegarden. But more likely lancaster as I remember the ship being big and even had some cameos in the mangas/anthologies with cute moments. I feel they may lean away from the lgbt ships as I know eastern people disliked bumblby but probably because they loved adam.
I hope theirs no canon ships really that's what ruined rwby to begin with.
Just leave Ozpin dead. The story we got is so worn out at this point. With the ancient things and gods. The RWBY setting is slightly futuristic and will be fine without it. The grim problem doesn't even have to be resolved if the show focuses more on the characters.
Really as another anon said we need a rwby reboot/revamp thread. I'd love to hear ideas of what our ideal styles, studios, head creatives/writers would be for a rwby reboot. Also just our take on fixing the plots or rewriting
Blake never cuts her hair or becomes a dyke.
There, fixed.
She should also not be an insatiable black hole that tries to snag every dick and clit she can get her paws on.
Blake already sucked can't fix that easily anon.
I never even considered them interracial, I prefer in fantasy shows if they treat races as if they don't exist unless they are a fantasy one like faunus. But you aren't wrong I admit to oscar being flawed but I really want to like him and him to be fixed. Like my ideal world is one where he can work and not be hated.
To be fair him being the mc is also because ruby is kind of moronic and a brat. Like her whole arc in v9 was useless so we can't blame oscar more the writers. I feel they know what to do with oscar more because he's ozpin and just a much easier to guide character. "ok he's boy he's becoming old wizard, ex wife wants him, gods mission". Really I just realize oscar should really be jaune since he fits the paladin role lol. Overall I like the character just not how it's been handle but isn't that all of rwby at this point? I like harriet and the sheep but they were handled terribly, same with neo had one of the worst endings for a fan fave. It's not oscar and just MnK anons. Give him a chance to be fixed.
>I prefer in fantasy shows if they treat races as if they don't exist unless they are a fantasy one like faunus
So like in Star Wars?
Basically yes, I mean you could have a continent of black people or asians but don't call them black or asian. It needs to be less on the nose you know?
>Blake already sucked can't fix that easily anon
Agreed, she was the shittiest from the very beginning.
True also she had that most basic b***h voice and personality, the old apathetic voice and idc vibes. It can work but not for her.
But he's voiced by alphonse? You aren't wrong really I feel we'd need new side characters but probably best to just make a new batch. Maybe add in silver eyed warriors or better faunus.
Yeah but to be fair other series have done it with less time and money. So you aren't wrong but usually constraints breed innovation and creativity but not for modern series I guess lol.
Yeah in the end of the day that's why I like the idea of the reboot as we can see how good writers can make a shit show work. I feel most of it could have worked and most fans just over simp. Like people acting like adam and ironwood were never good or weren't changed last second to make the heroes look better. As you said if done slower it'd have work but they just go welp they are a cartoonish villian now.
Why you got to do my boy like that anon lol
But hey you might just do it, remember the sequel/reboot to dante's inferno and to king arthur were done by schizos that added their own ocs and felt they could do it better. So hey keep seething and focus on rwby make it for us anon.
>Why you got to do my boy like that anon lol
Hate. Hate for Miles, Tumblr, and RT.
But yeah, idk. So something about Oscar just makes me hate him. For a lot of reasons but others have already said most of what would have said. I saw you say that he's not necessary for the story but still want him fixed. But imo if something is not necessary for the story and it's not added for rule of cool then I think it shouldn't be there. Oscar isn't cool or necessary. I can see why people like him, but I just hate that character. Ruins the vibe and Ruby deserves much better ship wise (which she has, so going with Rosegarden is just another RT brain moment).
>But hey you might just do it
I'll win.
I did. I got an A on my animation and a B+ overall. Only reason I didn't pass the course with an A was because of my attendance. I spent a lot of time at home working rather than driving my hour commute too and back from class.
>To be fair him being the mc is also because ruby is kind of moronic and a brat. Like her whole arc in v9 was useless so we can't blame oscar more the writers.
This is part of the problem, they focus on Oscar more than Ruby because Oscar is miles' baby. He's his fav and that's why he ships them.
I think Oscar could be fixed, but he absolutely cannot be Ruby's ship. He needs to be reworked into a different character entirely. But honestly I don't think the whole reincarnation plotline is even that good, it kind of hurts the world building.
Even with enough run time they shouldn't spend so much time on all of these side characters. It should be RWBY and J that get the focus. There isn't enough room for Jaune and Oscar.
I disagree, I find side-characters very useful in this story. Theoretically, if we double the screentime to 25 mins per episode, I think RWBY/JNRO is a perfectly fine core group of characters. I think you're over-compensating for what we've currently experienced and the concept of character bloat. If you look at most television shows, you have around 4-6 major characters, and you can easily pull that off with RWBY being MCs, JNR having the sideplot, and Oscar being how he is. It's not a binary choice.
Hell, look at Red v. Blue, they had a whole host of major characters that managed to be relevant without taking away from the story at large.
Oscar just steps too much on Jaunes toes as a character. You'd have to make so many changes to Oscar he'd almost be a different character entirely. His design needs to be changed. And the problem is he isn't a fighter and there isn't a way to make him a good fighter without dong this bullshit where they just handed him powers, so making him apart of the core doesn't work. His design also isn't very interesting. You have Jaune, do having another guy who can't fight as good as the others just kind of drags everyone down. Oscar could be a side plot, but definitely not a part of the main cast. Abd again, definitely NOT Ruby's ship
I still like rosegarden but I agree ruby kind of doesn't need a canon ship. also speaking of worldbuilding and bad plotlines I feel they need to either keep the maidens or the relics not both
>I still like rosegarden
Why?
I remember when rwby fandom first started going toxic, I had to defend the ship and friends for shipping it. Mostly because it was a straight ship and lgbt schizos were hating on all straight ships, so it got mixed with my last few fun ships. So it's like the last good thing I have connected to rwby shipping, and now even it is ruined.
A raccoon? also I still just feel like he can be fixed but yeah bloat is a massive problem in rwby. I do wonder who'd i'd keep around and still we would need side characters eventually and how'd i'd go about making or adding them?
Talking about penny what about pyrrha? like they talk about her once lol, but yeah they never talk about penny which is insane. I feel neo should have harped on penny since that was the best choice writing wise and most recent wound in ruby's heart. Still funny how she kills herself like just sipping tea on the ground like a slob.
Yeah they also never bring up anything about how adam had a little *sdc* then they went to atlas and not a damn thing came of it. For a series that wanted to make jacque look bad they pussied out on the faunus racism again.
Also yeah I understand that but again most of those problems were self inflicted and most of them were in pursuit of laziness and foolish endeavors. They really had tons of good animators and alienated them or squandered them. Then tried to focus on story when neither of the heads had writing experiences and actively didn't listen to both internal or external critcism. I can't give MnK or RT leeway in anything even Gen:Lock was a massive ego trip project that really was the death nail of the studio. As it shined a light on corruption and overworking and resource and money mismanagement also leading to the season of RWBY where the majority of fans quit and RT memberships went down hella hard.
I never thought it'd be canon, so i was just as shocked. I like it cause cute girl and boy. just wholesome e-girlsho vibes.
>most of those problems were self inflicted and most of them were in pursuit of laziness and foolish endeavors
Agree, and again think all of those factor into how poorly RWBY has come across, even though, all things considered, I don't find it that bad of a show - it was just expected to be so much more. I think we agree that writing has some part to play with it, clearly, but I also think that the things you mention about Gen:Lock and the general over-extension of the studio trying to "strike it rich" instead of trying to reinvest into the RWBY IP are things that greatly amplified the affect of any flaws of the writing.
Well i bring up genlock because it was by Gray who was one of the heads, and was a butthole and overworked many animators and ruined tons of shows to make his own. But it was them trying to make it rich as well all the famous VA bs like Micheal B Jordan. Really as a whole RWBY and RT iis left in charge of by morons. Also them never doing anything right in terms of things is basically a RT tradition.
I hope you do anon. I understand your hate though but I'll keep dreaming of a better oscar lol. But yeah use your hate to make something better make Boscar, the aryan chad shota idk.
RWBY was never good but it did have potential. Unfortunately instead of getting better it only got worse.
It doesn't really have anymore potential then your typical adventure series, YA series, or battle shonen. The only thing something like rwby does different from say Soul Eater is the fact that furries exist in rwby which is something thats not in a lot of action anime I guess. Maybe you can make an argument that dust is a new concept but thats it
NTA but you're wrong.
RWBY had a killer premises and incredibly well designed and likeable characters. It was set up very well conceptually and aesthetically, on par with soul eater. The actual production was rough, and so was the writing, but it absolutely has way more potential than your average series. Ruby Rose herself is a GOD TIER design, even better than Maka. You're ignore a crucial aspect which is the design of the show.
The aesthetics are nothing if everything around it is trash. RWBY is style with little to no substance.
The characters themselves were also great. All of them were interesting. The problem was later they removed all the uniqueness. It's Aesthetic + characters.
>characters themselves were also great
Lets not get ahead of ourselves. Prior to volume 4 people liked neo cause she was cute, people like adam cause "dude vergil" and people liked Yang cause breasts but that was really it
See, the problem here is that you're under the misconception that a character needs to be *deep* to be good and well liked. Yang was just breasts, she was firey kickass and fun. She's much better than her post V3 self. Having a good personality and design is all that's required. Adding unnecessary drama and development doesn't automatically make a character good. The characters went downhill in terms of design and personality.
>All of them were interesting
Were they?
Not him but this is generally correct. RWBY has good aesthetic but isn’t very deep. But the simple fact is that the creator’s “I have an idea!” flash of art was “I want to create a fighting anime so girls can cosplay in this stuff, it’s hot!” Which is an ok starting point but it never really fleshed things out properly. They just kept adding more waifus and husbandos to cover for the ones they ruined.
>RWBY's potential begins and ends with the aesthetic
Monty took more from Square Enix and Nomura then I thought he already did it seems
Are you forgetting Dead Fantasy?
> on par with soul eater
Soul eater was garbage your not helping your case
The anime or the manga?
Both
Go ahead and tells us what you think is good and why then?
rwby had potential cause it was one of the first 3d webseries with an anime style and action on that level. There have been 3d web shows before and especially action web shows like viscous and the quake arenas fan movie but rwby was a going to be a serialized long running fake anime web show
>the fact that furries exist in rwby which is something thats not in a lot of action anime I guess
They have them in almost every Isekai, dude.
As a non-weeb that kept a glancing eye on this series simply because I grew up with RT, even I have to say you’re wrong. It’s not good but a lot of elements that stand out. Even when I saw buts of it when it got turned into an actual anime I could tell what it was just because character’s designs were massively different from anything else in the various weeb cartoons that pass my eye.
>I never thought it'd be canon, so i was just as shocked. I like it cause cute girl and boy. just wholesome e-girlsho vibes.
I really don't know what they were thinking going for it in canon other then them admitting to browsing Tumblr and think it's "wholesome." It felt so...wrong and off that flirting scene. I dropped the episode right there in V7. And they just kept going with it. I do think it's because it's miles fav character and he thinks it's cute. But for it really killed the show for me.
I think ruby should be non romantic. She's the mc best to tease or just let fans cope. So you'll never have what happened with blacksun and bumbbly. I remember the dark days of the lgbt shipper schizo attack.
>Their was harmony in the fandom
>Until the homosexuals attacked
lol why I got to be so mean
But yeah I think it was cute, but the thing was i was put off as I was like uhhhhhhh aren't you guys at like war and dealing with bs like a literal genocide via salem. I feel that's such a tumblr thing cute ship stuff out of nowhere but it makes it cringe and ruins it even for loser shippers like me. Because i can't enjoy the ship or the scenes now that the moment is ruined with drama, or cringe or love bs.
I agree that the best option for Ruby would be no canon romance so all the shippers can make their fanfiction and fanart in piece. I would say if one was going to be canon it should be Lancaster or White Rose for aesthetics more than anything. Rosegarden is just...why?
>I think ruby should be non romantic
That's fricking gay, dude. Romance is a major element in fiction. This shit seems to be getting pushed by the same west coast weirdos who are too mentally fricked in the head to have proper relationships with other human beings.
Why? I think romance works but some characters are best with no official relationships or canon ships. Their are tons of great series without canon ships. Also with how shipping is handled now I think a non relationship based, ruined series is for the best. In most shows now the moment characters start dating one character becomes just the gf, ex: bumblby, lumity, molly x ollie,legend of korra.So maybe now I'm jaded to it in western media because they can't write it well.
The reason why a ship isn't canonized is the hardcore fans. Either puritygays or internet feminists. Amazing that they hate each other but want the same things
Just like how both the radical left and fundamentalists are pro-censorship. They're both puritans.
There's an old say that the far right and the far left are the same. Compare Nazi Germany with the USSR.
>ex: bumblby, lumity, molly x ollie,legend of korra
You watch a lot of crap. Stop watching cartoons and grow the frick up.
Get the heck off this cartoon board.
It's also a comics board, dude.
It's not just cartoons bro I specifically used them because were talking about rwby and on Cinemaphile lol. But I mean look at most tv or movies the relationships are usually toxic or one of them isn't a character at all. Their is good media occassionally but it's not outweighed by 100s of shitty romantic subplots and most good romance is from a romance focused series and rwby isn't so best to just ignore or leave it implied bros.
True, I miss when they were the outliers. I remember when I first joined the rwby fandom all we did was post art and dumb fics and discuss theories just dumb fun. Then you slowly saw the rot as people started calling ships "toxic,pedo, abusive etc" it's sad how fast you saw the fandom begin to die around then. As you said they usually hate each other because they are both the aggressive types of no fun fricks.
>But I mean look at most tv or movies the relationships are usually toxic or one of them isn't a character at all
Because most modern writers suck at their jobs, and think toxic relationships are normal.
Tried to avoid saying it but yeah, first few ideas that crossed my mind. Like why in most media the husband/dad has to be a loser who the family treat like shit and mom acts like she never had interest in. Then you also have weird shit where the guy is either a abusive/toxic borderline rapist(written by women most times kek) then most new romance plot lines glorify cheating and leaving a relationship without telling them or hiding it. It's like they can't fathom healthy relationships anymore, it's why people lean more and more to eastern or at least non North American content. I swear sometimes I forget what it's like seeing characters that are truly in love, give me genuine cute lovey dovey bs. Even owl house i didn't like because it felt so forced and her and luz felt so bleh. Like I like it when characters are in sync or just so close and feel right together it's hard to portray i guess.
This is why Chat is Spidey's best girlfriend.
I member Chat.
With heroes the less time they were the main love interest the better sadly. Less time for a petty seething writer to ruin them or make them cheat for their better love interest etc.
It did for me lol, also yeah I remember that. I remember their was even a oc fan tourney/animation intro collabs all the time. I even learned 3d modeling(shitty) but I made a fan weapon back in the day. It was truly a fun fandom at it's peak now the best you get is good yuri art and maybe 1 or 2 funny comics. Most of the og's either got cancelled went to a less toxic fandom or just feel off the face of the earth.
>I remember when I first joined the rwby fandom all we did was post art and dumb fics and discuss theories just dumb fun.
I remember when people were digging deep to think up obscure color-based names for their OCs. It was the type of show that made people want to learn how to draw.
Good times.
>So maybe now I'm jaded to it in western media because they can't write it well.
That's because you're watching shitty kid's cartoons. Watch other stuff.
I think it's fine to like a ship and recognize it shouldn't be canon. I don't get people who like RG, but my issue is it being the actual direction the show was taking.
>Give him a chance to be fixed
He can't be fixed because at his core, his design, his personality, and his entire persona is a Tumblr character. And that's why he doesn't fit (or most of the post v3 characters). He's a Tumblr character in what should be an action anime, and his le wholesome lame self wouldn't fit in the first three volumes. It's not runtime, he's just Tumblr. And also on the point of run time, no, no amount of time can fix the moronic plot points or cast bloat.
And anyone can make a masterpiece given unlimited time, good writers and professionals know what's important and when to move on with something. They can work within limits. MKEK focus more on a raccoon and bumblebee than Jaune and Ruby talking about Penny.
I'm rooting for you so hard.
RG and Oscar is one of the worst parts of the post V3 era. Oscar is literally the same kind of ambiguously brown character as that mc from camp camp but at least camp camp was self aware and made a joke about it. I hate how everyone dotes on Oscar and likes him for no reason. They desperately try and get us to like him. Plus he cucks OG cast members out of a Ruby ship. If this show ever gets a reboot I seriously hope Oscar is just not apart of it. I don't understand people who want to get rid of Jaune but keep Oscar who is just Jaune but takes up the MC mantle away from Ruby even more to the point where Ruby is his prize. Oscar is even more of a Gary stu than Jaune because at least Jaune got crap in universe for being who he was.
It's because Oscar is a cute shota and happen to be ambiguously brown. He appeals to the female tumblr crowd
I don't think Rosegarden is going to happen unless RT finishes the story. I don't see anyone who would do a reboot going that direction.
My biggest problem with Oscar and RG is that Oscar in my opinion only detracts from the story. Like others pointed out, Jaune was criticized for taking the MC mantle, but Oscar does the same thing. With him being Ozma's reincarnation he takes a much bigger central role in the plot than any of RWBY do and the show should be about them. And yeah, he's instantly like by every while not really "earning" it. That's a big thing Monty said, it needs to feel earned. Oscar hasn't really earned anything, it's handed to him. And they think giving him more focus and having him get hurt will endear him to us, but it doesn't.
He's not "cool" in a way that even Jaune and Ren are. He doesn't really fit. Like
said he appeals to a certain crowd. People like this person
. That's why I think he should be cut out. Rosegarden feels like Oscar is the MC and Ruby is his heroine.
I agree with others that V10 not happening is a good thing because I also did not want rosegarden to happen, which is the direction they were taking I think. Although there are some good reasons why they wouldn't. If you were to keep Oscar, he needs to be reworked into a proper side character and not have any ships as he's the next Ozma, and that's his arc. And they are kind of doing that arc, which honestly I think is fine, but doing that arc AND having him be shipped with Ruby is just dumb. At this point he's the MC, not Ruby. The story is better without him, focus on RWBY and Ruby. Leave the boy next door sweet guy side character role to Jaune. We don't need two Jaunes.
I don't think the issue is with Oscar or his writing individually, I think it's just the fact that the show is so lean and edited that other characters get shafted while he gets narrative protection because he's Ozma's carrier.
If other characters were allowed to have their moments, I don't think Oscar being cool or competent would be too annoying. If JNR actually did something against Neo in Volume 7, I don't think it'd be so annoying that Oscar was able to punch her and had cool magical powers that allowed him to survive a mile-long drop in the finale.
Aka: Broader context of the show, edited down due to a lack of funding = more have-nots and a bigger disparity between characters and what they're allowed to do in the story.
Yeah actually this, really oscar is definitely flawed but he feels so forced because of ozpin. An the fact that's the only way they can push the plot anymore because they are the mcguffin type of writers. An that's what oscar is he's a living mcguffin.
The simple fact that any critic ignores: you can split hairs and focus on details - but the fundamental issue with RWBY was it's run-time and it's lack of budget. If there was more time to be able to develop characters, engage characters, and provide more compelling storylines, nobody would give a so much of a shit about Bumblebee, Adam, Ironwood, and Oscar.
If you had more time to more accurately depict Ironwood slipping into despair and paranoia, people would be more sympathetic and more understanding about how a hero can decay into a tragic antagonist... instead of randomly executing a civilian and whipping out the nuclear option.
Rwby's issues are not due to run time. Compare Rwby's 1st episode to rvb's and watch look at how much more efficient it is at being more entertaining and setting up a foundation for a larger story in comparison.
RWBY's story is a lot broader in scope, as opposed to RvB's storytelling format. Not to put one above the other, but they're different beasts.
Sure, I mean you could argue V1-3 RWBY was much better at working with a low budget to prepare an enjoyable, compelling story. Or Dead Fantasy lmao.
But I'd say that still boils down to production focus: Volumes 1-3 were bender animated, not MAYA, etc. There was more pressure to animate crazy stupid action and so storytelling warped around it, etc. All of these factors changed once RT moved to MAYA, chose to go with MoCAP, with a budget and work-hours that encouraged them to redirect their focus from crazy action sequences to storytelling... with limited resources. Also while V1-3 was innovative and creative, but the work-life balance was ridiculous for the people who worked on it.
I won't deny writing has some role to play, of course things have could've been written better, but I don't think writing was fundamentally flawed down to the core. Ironwood's betrayal was set up in Volume 2 for crying out loud sakes. So to focus chiefly on the writing as the culprit is unreasonable in my mind.
>As you said if done slower it'd have work but they just go welp they are a cartoonish villian now.
Exactly.
A lot, why? RWBY never presented itself to a short 4 season story. Back in the day people were speculating that it would be 12 volumes and wanted a sequel on top of it when the characters grew up.
So why does length matter, if RWBY had a lot of story to tell? The Beacon Arc, the White Fang Arc, Mistral, Atlas, Vacuo... this is some classic anime shonen plot.
>So why does length matter
If you cant tell your story in under 10 seasons its a bad story.
Ok nice opinion anon. I disagree.
Thats because you're stupid.
>Guys if your story can't be told in X amount of pages/books/volumes/other arbitrary measurements, it's bad!
Folks... I guess Naruto, Bleach and One-Piece are all objectively bad stories b/c they have more than 10 seasons... and the Iliad is also trash... contrarianon said so... and they're always right... though... I don't understand why they are even bothering with a shonen-style show... if they dislike this form of storytelling...
>I guess Naruto, Bleach and One-Piece are all objectively bad stories b/c they have more than 10 seasons
Not the same thing. Those are based on manga, of which was adapted panel for panel for their anime adaptations. Thing is, those shows get shat on all the time for their pacing. Reason for that is because different mediums have different rules. Making changes to fit the new medium is a MUST. It ain't optional.
Meaning a lot of the shit in the manga could've been condensed and streamlined to better fit the TV format. Also, hindsight's a factor and the TV guys could include shit from later in the manga so it doesn't look like a retcon.
That's an issue of the medium, not a judgment on the story itself. You original post was a rule-of-thumb for "stories" in general, but now you're giving an enormous exception for shonen anime because... they're adaptions of existing stories??? Realize that this exception would also apply to RWBY's story if it had just been a manga first... What a nonsensical conclusion.
It's not a debate that the medium determines how well a story is communicated. No shit, anime gets clowned on for pacing - but that's only one quality of a story and not a judgment of a story in its totality.
I wouldn't disagree that RWBY may have been better in a different medium: as a comic or manga - and hell, as a manga the story would probably require less volumes when compared to One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach. Sure, long doesn't always = good.
But to insist upon a strict rule with such a glaring exception is wack.
>If you cant tell your story in under 10 seasons its a bad story.
Every serialized show that gets that far now always goes to shit in the middle of it.
Disagree. Especially since a season is utterly arbitrary unit of measure. The actual runtime is what's important and RWBY isn't very long. It's actually pretty rushed in a lot of ways
They had 9 full seasons and the plot is barely at the half way point, how much more time did they need?
I would personally cut almost if not all of the post V4 characters and focus on OG ones instead. Oscar just bloats the narrative and the cast.
Yes, literally the writers gave her the power to win automatically, the only way to stop her is with a big deus ex machina that forces Salem not to kill everyone instantly, god, she doesn't even need her henchmen anymore.
Indeed
Not if team RWBY gets to them first.
Meyers just wants an excuse to write a post-apocalyptic Neo/Trivia story, where she reincarnates and enters Remnant after the gods return.
Which do you prefer from v7?
Elm. We already had some good MILFs but RWBY was lacking a proper musclegirl.
Elm. Willow already has plenty of art. The hag shouldn't hog all the attention.
The Ace Ops are such a failure. They were supposed to be RWBY's gold saints, the Outers, the Akatsuki, the Soul Society's Captains, etc. The cool sempais that the fandom can't never get enough, overrated as frick and ruling over the fanworks, from cringe fanfics to tik tok.
As if we didn't have enough villains already
The sheep.
disgusting, ugly creature
The sinner
The lamb
The hand of god
Always and forever
The four best girls. Always.
Rwboys >rwby girls
Where's my cardin x jaune
Decided to give her a makeover, but I think the face looks a bit funny, does anybody else see it? Is it the eyebrows that are too high
>Crossovers flopped
Ill never understand why those were made to begin with. DC gays would just find it cringe and rwby fans just wanted volume 10
It was Kerry's idea.
>just wanted volume 10
actually the crossovers directly affected volume 9, forcing them to cut multiple episodes. idk if thats better or worse.
What are the chances for miracle volume 10?
0%. RT can't afford it. They couldn't even afford to host RTX this year.
Unless some rich person/company is willing to sink their money into it, no chance.
They needed Crunchyroll to pay for Volume 9, and they didn't even get to keep it all, forcing them to rush the ending.
I wish Crunchy Roll would just buy RWBY.
You want them to x-over with Spice Guardians?
That would be hilarious, especially if the HSG writing team end up doing the scripts.
Women ruined RT
It was better when it was bros being bros
Remember ryan? I memba
Really Idk why people act like this is bad, warner obviously only wanted rwby. They pushed it in tons of cameos compared to other RT useless stuff. Also man artist and creators in the east have shown heavy interest in it. Best end is warner disbands RT to finally have the rights exclusively. Give it to some eastern company to reanimate and write. Then we get Rwby brotherhood, and no matter how they write it the fights(which is the most important part) will be kino asf. Also odds are the story and worldbuilding and fighting system will be better as well. No one can do worse than RT at this point.
My issue with that is RWBY would feel off in 2D. The East is also terrible with cgi 95% of the time. Even worse then Team RWBY. Maybe the people that make Miku Miku stuff?
The OG Maya or whatever system they used will always be okay and not as big a problem as people make it sound like.
Jaune being set up to be a Joan of Arc and hearing Ozma would have been okay and just make him as much of a Gary Stu and team RWBY are Mary Sues. I never got the impression Jaune was a shameless self-insert. I feel he was just always OP because he's the MALE audience icon so he has to be strong.
Ren is the male audience icon. Or was until he became an ugly twink in season 5
>The literal self insert of Monty was the male audience icon
They used Poser for volumes 1 through 3 and then switched to Maya for the rest of the show.
Why’d it still look like ass then?
Poser I meant. It will always be jank kino.
Just give it to Marza. They make good shit.
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Whatever it takes to get competent writers on it, I am all for it. But if they don't get rid of all the trash (Jaune's entire character for example) then it's all for nothing.
They need to get rid of that mistake Oscar first.
Ice Queendom had mediocre action. You would need ufotable to make action on par with monty and the chances of ufo doing rwby is nonexistant
To be fair icequeendom was led by RT and had tons of bs going around it. I put that on a rare occassion also seems they chose that company because of madoka which didnt at all lend to rwby. But I think ufotable or mappa would do it justice. I also know they'd want them many companies and writers have said they wished they could work on rwby from the east. It's a big deal their it's why it was why it had like 2 big chinese games that were steadily updating for years and they were popular in japan to the point it was one of the first country to get a official dub.
Also has had two fairly popular mangas
Oh yeah 100% it's rare to have good 3D in the east it happens but way to hit or miss. But I feel i'd rather high quality 2D than what we've got now anon. I mean if you get the crew from things like trigun and alznoah zero, and maybe land of lustrous then it'd be peak. Because just one of those teams would make top tier 3d rwby with the models and refs I think they'd do fine. Biggest thing is their aren't a lot of modelers and 3d because 2d is the most prominent in japan as how in the US we've gotten worse and lazier with 2d because of our cg and 3d dependence. So they only have a A team and F team lol.
Not my boy jaune, but yeah not wrong sadly. He either needs a overhaul or to just be cut. I think that's most of the side cast but again i feel a good eastern writer could make it work. Probably be able to make them all likeable like in the earlier seasons and feel less like just being so bloated. I definitely think it could work the manga did it's best while forced to follow fairly close but I remember hearing good things about it and the characterization.
Exactly really I'd be ok even with a whole new voice cast and new models. Like really RT is like a disease so it needs to all be burned sadly. Also most of the Va's are part of the problem or at least the main va's. Like bumblby and the blake va bs etc.
This. The sooner RT dies, the sooner RWBY is freed from their grasp.
>rwby brotherhood
Sisterhood*
I was referencing the superior reboot of FMA. But I mean maybe a reboot where team rwby are all femboy twinks would be better kek.
>RWBY:Sisterhood
I actually feel like that name would go hard though. That or they go with the other idea of remnant since they didn't always want to focus just on team rwby. It'd be interesting to see what a better team would do with that but best to focus on the main cast with short looks into the supporting cast
Im aware of the reference. Dont be a nincumpoop
More boys than just Ren and Jaune would be nice. Only other team of boys is team proudly racist jocks. Oh and the very forgetable team planets from mistral.
So mean, but yeah we had team sun but he's also a joke now as they wrote him to be the butthole and beaten up in the books. People at RT hate sun for some reason.
>Gets slapped multiple times by blake
>Hasn't had a real big win since S2, maybe S3 if you count the tournament fights
>Gets shit on by his team and everyone else in the books
>Gets chastised and beaten by velvet
>kicked out of the squad even though he is a fan fave
Hey team cardin was pretty based we need them to be the new mcs lol. But yeah more boys wouldn't be bad maybe they'll make oscar a actual character also I'm just saying I wouldn't be opposed to femboy team rwby.
>femboy team
Anon, stop being a gay coomer.
Besides, pretty sure femboy inclusion follows the rule of ninjas. Too many and it becomes pointless. Variety is the spices of life, you need your Rens and your Cardins and your Romans and your Ooblecks
More professor port daddy energy please
Hmmm true, man speaking of Roman I hope in a reboot they do him right. Idk if I'd still want him to die though like does he have too he was my fave, but i guess like neo too long and your ruined.
Calls me gay coomer but says daddy port, I know what you are
Nah Sun deserves better, heard the books implied him x velvet potential so hey. But still really no one deserves blake hanging out with blake means your going to die 9 times out of 10.
Said as a joke. Since i used up oobleck. But I'll take doctor nerd husbando instead
Sun will always be the best ship for shitty kitty. Besides me.
Why is batman depicted as a fricking barbarian here?
>highly complex dust Rapier
>batman: sword go stabby stab 🙂
Not if I frick her first.
Next RWBY thread let's write the RWBY Sisterhood revamp.
Honestly, they should have just finished their first year at Beacon. We would have gotten so much world building. Do you know how good it would have been to have a mini-arc of "Let's go to Mistral for exchange student shit and an excuse to have the teams wear kimonos and for some reason we don't know why hunters are being 86'd" for like three years until you learn it was the lion after the fall.
Salem needs a rename, it's too on the fricking nose. She's not even fairytale story named, she's just a reference to the witch trials while ozma is the wizard of oz.
There's so many better witches out there
Westorosia
Salem as a name works, come on now.
Actually wouldn't be to bad of a idea, especially since we won't be getting a rwby season either again or a long while.
>kimonos
He's letting his inner weeaboo out, but I do think trips or more exchange student screentime would have fleshed the world out a bit more. Like atlas kids are either wienery or militaristic and organized, vacuo kids are like sun free spirited or super crafty and cuttthroat. etc.
I do really miss those two, they were fun teachers and just back in the day of dumb fun.
>Honestly, they should have just finished their first year at Beacon. We would have gotten so much world building.
Thats what the whole show should be about.
It was battle hogwarts anime, nothing more. The entirety of the world building outside of that is just dogshit
>like rwby unironically
>its mishandled by the biggest morons known to man
volume 3 was such a shift and then they did frick all with it.
If RT was in anyway competent we would have had an actual rwby fighting game by now
>this is the legacy of RWBY
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2050991531
I'll never understand why Vtubers got their own board.
Because there wasn't a single board where you could discuss them before /vt/
There's no reason to discuss them.
Sure there is
Tell that to the SEAmonkeys gossiping like high school girls about which girls are bawds
Because they were a cancer not even /jp/ could handle, and they have to deal with idolgays on a daily basis.
I hope they let Lindsay keep the model after RT collapses so she's forced to play Ruby live for hours every day for the next decade just to make ends meet. Maybe we'll get Ruby GFE ASMR if her numbers get low enough.
>have 3D anime girl
>make that 3D anime girl into a vtuber
>use a whole new shitty looking 2D rig instead of her 3D model
What a wasted opportunity.
>use a whole new shitty looking 2D rig instead of her 3D model
Probably because the 3D model isn't compatible with the the programs that vtubers user, the 3D model also wouldn't track her motion
>Skipped to a random part.
>Lindsey, landwhale trigglypuff that she is, says something about "stating trigger warnings throughout the stream" when I skipped to it.
I feel so bad for Austinites. Truly a mind virus.
My belief is we won't get a e-celeb board because we'll talk the truth about powerful intelligence assets. Celebrities are the new priest class and have been since the 30's.
Michael is probably not a moron and has a nice nestegg being one of the leading drivers in ad revenue for RT. Despite him probably having drunk the coolaid, I hope Lindsey doesn't do something stupid like divorce him and ruin his life.
God seeing what lindsay became makes me feel so bad for her husband. Like I used to defend her too because "come on guys she just had a kid". Then she started talking about all that beautiful at all sizes and being weird about being fat. Like she obviously hates it but refuses to lose weight. She was actually cute in the former picture a bit plain jane but it worked because she was a nice pop culture geek.
Now she's just insufferable like the rest of the main 4 vas. Really sad seeing how these 4 went from my faves to me realizing they are kind of shit heads. Also why when girls get fat they always get so insufferable and assholish
>healthy at every size
>dies at 40
yeah, frick that has been happening recently. All those healthy at anysize girls have been dying left and right. Makes sense sadly it started about 2014 most of them were in their mid 20s to early 30s, and just got fatter instead of losing weight or yo yoing like most people do.
Hopefully lindsay and other girls learn from them and chill the frick out, she got kids I'd hate her to die early on them.
They become ugly outside and in.
Damn sad, maybe it's the lack of self control or something. Because yeah most fat girls I knew were buttholes even before that movement.
Idk about Kara just know about Blake's va pushing bumbbly and using the wasps to harass and dox a few rwby antis. I know barb has been aggressive with fans even back before the series hate major hate and usually just really threw her weight around at RT which also messed with a few things. Lindsay as seen above she's less Rwby related and more just became a weird type. Kara maybe the only good one and it's because she just does her job and leaves and stays out of the spotlight(like how actors used to do)
Good for you bro, that's the way slow and steady. like you said got to accept reality and mold yourself. If your bad at something practice, if you aren't smart study, etc. Idk why so many people are obsessed with everything being easy and everyone accepting you being lazy. I know autistic people that learned to socially interact and have jobs and go to school but some how a normal person can't handle working at starbucks or walmart without crying online. Nothing wrong with b***hing about your situation but you've got to actively try and change it. It's why i always hated that movement it's the embodiment of coddling and laziness.
It's purely just wanting to mold reality around yourself, which is impossible. They don't want to put their big girl panties on lose some pounds. I'm down 5 pounds this month boys. 🙂
Is Kara insufferable? All I know is she likes White Knight which is based.
I'm kinda surprised Nigiri isn't capitalizing on cinder voice
>Barbara let it slip.
jewess couldn't even keep her trap shut.
The attention whoring was too much
Maybe they shouldn't have trashed all their good shows, shit on their fans, and gone woke
>sources say
WHAT sources you disingenuous homosexual Black person? No one gives a shit about your tabloid clickbait garbage. Post actual links and verifiable quotes or FRICK OFF
Here homie
>tfw mercury
>taking mercury's legs
>tfw turning mercury into your onahole
Main demo should’ve been dudes. Chicks in general don’t like this shit. Very few do and most of them are in it for the shipping.
Monty wasnt a gay and neither should you
Most girls do OF its easy money for anyone with breasts and a pussy
>Most girls do OF its easy money for anyone with breasts and a pussy
Most girls make less than a McDonald’s employee.
Less work than a mcdonalds employee. And you aren't in thesame physicality as the smelly brown rapists lusting over you
They do Onlyfans thinking they’ll make the same as the top earners. Thing is, over-saturation is a factor. And because of that, these dumb broads don’t make shit. And now they’ve ruined their future prospects by doing what they did.
God bless capitalism
>Monty wasnt a gay and neither should you
You misunderstood. Demo means demographic. The target audience should’ve been guys, not girls.
I agree.
Disagree.
The show is entirely popular because it's a female leading cast.
Because guys like them. Cute chicks doing the cool action shit. Like anime.
Co is full of gays
Co wants anime boys that fight grimm in the opening credits and then suck eachother off for the 20 minute runtime
Co wants anime e-girls that they can coom to and then vehemently defend that they are not pedophiles
I love this artist, because they are so unintentionally based.
>racist
>homophobic
>underage
How Ruby isn't Cinemaphile waifu?
RWBY was too good for Cinemaphile. That's why they turned away from it like israelites turning away from Christ.
>RWBY was too good for Cinemaphile
homie frick you.
She's my waifu and I will marry her. I love her.
Plus she's completely legal in my state and most of Europe.
Boobs too small.
Ruby's breasts got big.
When?
Mistral.
How big we talking?
of course the boobgay is a fricking tourist
"Fictional character browsing Cinemaphile" has always been a weak meme, but I genuinely feel that Ruby would be autistic enough to browse /k/. She has always been my waifu.
And yet too many jaunegays exist
He's the main male lead. He's always gonna be popular.
Jaungays only like him BECAUSE he is the main male surroudned by girls. If everyone else was a boy he wouldn't stand out and fans wouldn't self-impose themselves into him.
There's a reason why Jaune's personality is always different in every single fanwork. Everyone just projects their own things into him
Didn’t the VAs for the girls end up doing OnlyFans?
Aren't most of them over 35? also who'd want to see Lindsay lol.
>also man that's crazy they all should have tons of money so they are either doing it to be political/smash the chubs or are secretly broke.
They’re broke. None of the shit that RT made has made them any money.
Gamers cant run a business.
Looking back at their office videos, they spent money and destroyed property like it wasn't going to run out.
I doubt they even knew the difference between sales and profit
To be fair, the whole thing started out as media company with RvB and them trying to do shows and webcomics and shit. AH came later, though I'm pretty sure it became a massive cash cow for them. They hired too many people bro. That's literally all they did wrong. They needed to keep the the founders, Burnie, Matt, Geoff, Gus, Joel, doing whatever shows and RvB and passion projects they wanted to do. Have GUYS doing stuff like AH and RvB to bring in money. And then just hire a few token office bawds to hit on and file papers. They started to decline when they bloated every single sector of their company.
>say gamers cant run a business
>no its actually gamers cant run a business
As always, less is more.
You'd think they'd have money since well they aren't the grunts. But eh either way still dumb, especially with lindsay since she has kids. I somehow feel she'd be the main one with a onlyfans because of her weird obsession with showing off her flabby body as she got older.
That they can't, weird because nerds can run a company though. Like most tech start ups and even cryptobro companies lasted a while and usually just sold out down the line. But RT somehow was always broke the only ones to make any real money it seems were the og team that left.
Barb and Arryn (Yang and Blake respectively) did.
The fricking odds that it was the both of them.
They actually did a collab, using the bumblebee ship after it got confirmed to promote their only fans I shut you not.
Disgusting.
OnlyFans doesn't matter to me if it's joke "Look at me wearing a onesie," some e-celebs make. When their ass is just out in a "bikini" or underwear, is when they're selling their bodies.
Didn't they turn almost every girl except for Nora and maybe Weiss, maybe, gay?
Flopping is what happens when you pander to people that don't buy your shut
Nora can still be gay, she broke up with ren after realizing the relationship wasnt as magical as in her head.
Ren is going to make jaune scream his name
You know, it's kind of fitting that Rooster Teeth and the Xbox brand are looking to end around the same time.
Its good rwby died before they added any more trans characters to corrupt children
>It’s bad enough you became a genetic dead end Yang, but did you have to do it with a dirty animal, too? Why don’t you go vegan too, and pull off the filthy degenerate hat trick!
Geez, Ruby…
Arkos is the best ship for both characters
It was a stepping stone for the true endgame
Pyrrha dying is what should’ve made Jaune stronger. Her death is just the tragedy that every hero needs.
Jaune has too much tragedies on his count
>Pyrrha
>Penny
>That paper people
Like Spider-Man.
Pyrrha's his Gwen, with Ruby being his MJ ie his endgame.
who's Black Cat? Neo?
Weiss
>tfw Jaune never becomes the hero Pyrrha believed he could be
>tfw Jaune never reunites with Pyrrha in the afterlife
>tfw living in a timeline where Jaune only remembers Pyrrha as the first person who believed in him, and the first person he wasn't able to save
And people complain about Jaune being a self-insert, as if anyone would want to go through what Jaune has gone through. Virtually every other character has gotten a more rewarding journey and Ws under their belt.
Why RWBY, just why
Volume 9 is about Ruby coming to accept the fact that she doesn't have to commit identity death in order to become the hero everyone wants her to be.....Yet Volume 6 celebrates Pyrrha for.... dying in an attempt to become the hero everyone wanted her to be...
The parallels between Pyrrha's arc in Volume 3, Ruby's arc in Volume 9, and how it relates to RWBY's overall theme of life, belief and duty... it's so good. That's what makes the clear hypocrisy that much more frustrating.
>crossing RWBY with tired-out comic book heroes
>not with the one culturally-related superhero that is still relevant today
>black and red with super speed
>last name Rose
Uhh . . .
I would totally expect RT to go through with it while being ignorant of the sheer autism of sonamy AND sonadow fans.
Would have been more successful, DC fans find rwby cringe and openly mock their favorite heroes teaming up with them but sonic gays are already so cringe they would already like rwby by default
If they absolutely had to make two of them gay, Checkmate would have been so much better. There's actual story potential there.
weiss with anyone in the team would've been better than bumblebee
>RT tries to get themselves trending with the gay kiss
>instead RWBY starts trending for a different reason
It was the highlight of the volume.
how did RT react to the homophobic ruby meme
They didn't.
They went pretty radio silent on twitter after all their tweets got flooded with homophobic ruby memes.
The situation makes me chuckle every time I think if it.
>Ruby literally spends three minutes ranting about how fricked everything is, how she feels like she's the only one who gives a shit and how tired she is of trying to stay positive
>Literal next words out of Blake's mouth is her telling Ruby to try and stay positive
I will never get how Ruby's the bad guy in this meltdown, she's been carrying trauma and expectations while having to watch everyone press on without even thinking to support her emotionally. She's scarred to the point that she can't even hold her fricking weapon while Yang and Blake's biggest concern in the whole goddamn world was their "will they, won't they" bullshit. Like Jaune at least has the justification of being unhinged and depressed due to the whole aging thing but they are so disconnected that they go to a special magic love bridge while everyone else has to navigate a nightmare maze
It is pretty funny that they waited so long on the kiss. Like they were saving it for an emergency assuming it would mean a huge boost in viewership for being so daring and brave. But they held onto it for too long and cartoon lesbians are old hat now.
Yang and Blake's relationship was also mostly arguing before that. It developed horribly.
V10 should end with Jaune agreeing to marry Salem in Ozpin's place and converting her to a non-murderous tradwife
i want to frick red
I miss the R34
Which red?
>NO ACE OPS
But I like them....
Then no offense but you have shit taste because they were shit. Their designs suck and their personalities suck. They aren't cool at all. Peak Westoid slop. You can do much better high level huntsman and the biggest problem with Ace Ops is the opportunity cost of having cooler characters that don't have lame ass uniforms.
They sucked.
You suck.
Nu uh
Nah. Plus I'm right about everything. Sorry you like RG, but it's not happening.
People are nice to me because I'd win + the honored one + the family guy + autistic + rosegarden is cringe.
Also it's *you're
>HAPPY HUNTRESSES
Cringe.
Did you actually take an 3D anime course without learning any modeling and shit first? Or editing? I highly doubt you actually just jumped into animation, did you even pass?
Someone was raised by a single mother.
>Remove Robyn and the Happy Huntresses
>Replace them with the Atlas White Fang, and say they are more politically active than the other branches
This one change goes a long way towards fixing volume 7/8. It doesn't fix everything of course, but it helps provide better motivation for a lot of the characters' actions.
No money? Revive the IP as a book series. If it gets big enough, then venture into other markets. Film, TV and games.
If I were to reboot RWBY, I would
>make every character a Faunus with more than one animal trait.
This would get rid of the moronic racism subplot (the White Fang can just be a mercenary corp), the characters are now furry enough to entice that crowd, and it would make the show somewhat unique.
>make Qrow Ruby's dad, straight up. No drama included.
This would just go a long way in fixing the clusterfrick that is the STRQ family.
>Replace Amber with Summer.
Now Ruby has an actual connection to Cinder and it establishes Cinder as a decent threat.
>Have it be that Raven is still secretly working for Ozpin.
This way Ozpin is now actually morally grey and Raven can be seen as a somewhat decent mother - not wanting her husband and daughter to be a part of the criminal underworld. Combine this with the points above and it gives a reason for Raven to be bitter with Qrow.
And recast everyone.
If Jaune had an actual side-plot where he developed into a character who could stand his own in a fight, he'd be a lot less crowded by Oscar's character. It's not hard to write a villain for JNR to have a rivalry with during their journey with RWBY, while Oscar takes the supportive role. I'm not saying Oscar is crucial for the story, and sure, he could be removed. All I say is, with a proper budget his presence wouldn't be so disruptive... and I don't think you need "1 hour episode" budgets to achieve that.
captcha PNJR lmao
Rooster Teeth begins and ends with Red vs Blue for me.
I still don't understand how RWBY became such a phenomenon, especially looking as cheap as it does.
This post made me curious enough to check up on Red vs Blue after not watching it since 2017
I'm now depressed.
>This autistic guy hates Rosegarden so much he's eating time learning animation in school just to reboot the show and make it non canon.
As someone who came into this series later the fanbase is moronic and has bad media literacy. They are generally more interested in shipping than the actual content of the series. Seasons 1-3 are very fricking rough and anyone who props them up I instantly dismiss.
Are you saying the v4 and onward stuff is better? Cause if you are them you're the one who should be dismissed.
>Media literacy
Buzzword at this point.
The original volumes were rough, but had a good vibe, aesthetic, and action. That's why it's loved and the shit after isn't.
>muh buzzwords
>le good vibes
The irony. The writing was bad, the world building was bad, pacing was terrible, dialogue was extremely cringey, ALL it had was fight scenes and music.
The thing you're not understanding is that things like the fighting, music, character designs, and overall look and feel of the show are also important and can't be dismissed. That's what people say about potential. You're focused on the writing but it wasn't really that bad, it just wasn't great. Art isn't just about the nitty gritty technical, it's also about being cool and interesting. RWBY was cool, it had amazing characters. It had potential. And vibe in this context makes sense, the overall feeling of the show.
What amount + quality of worldbuilding occurs in the first season of a good show in your book? You give very little reason as to why you think the worldbuilding of RWBY is "bad", or how the writing is "bad". And you speak of media literacy when you can't even explain your position.
Never change Cinemaphile
Location names are thrown around but you don't have much of an idea of how the world itself works. The school feels like this island instead of part of a greater world. Characters have little meaningful interaction, teachers barely teach. Lots of relationships are telling and not showing mainly Ruby's family. White fang/racism is severely undercooked.
They fix some of this later with world of remnant shorts.
>They fix some of this later with world of remnant shorts.
Not everything has to be entirely fleshed out the moment you're introduced to it. What matters is if they do enough - which is why I want to understand why you consider the worldbuilding deficient beyond lacking "an idea of how the world itself works":
Sun is perfect worldbuilding for Vacuo being looser and more rough-tumble than the rest of the civilized world for being a menace and being a stowaway, Weiss perfectly captures the elitist and refined nature of Atlas (also reflected in their ships). I give you Mistral, but I think you discount a lot of worldbuilding that does exist. You do have a good understanding about the cities of Remnant, even if they aren't perfect they do well enough to give you an idea of "how the world works". It's not like you need to be described every location to get a sense of the world they live in.
Teachers barely teach, sure, but this is kinda true for any shounen battle story? I agree that this is a deficiency, but how is this any lower than the usual standard. This is like expecting a picture book to have the amount of detail as an adult novel. So I don't see how you can say that this is "bad worldbuilding", given the context of this show.
I won't deny the school island complaint, but at the same time I think that adds to the fantasy aspect - it does feel like Beacon is set apart and in a way that keeps RWBY from having to deal with normal city life. It does deny us of Ruby running to school with toast in her mouth, but also we don't have to stare at crowds of shadow people or empty streets.
Characters having little meaningful interaction + telling vs. showing? Well, they're still getting introduced to one another. You can't get into deep character development/interactions without dealing with blatant barriers like "Weiss is racist" first.
>ALL it had was fight scenes and music
so?
I think it’s good to contrast RWBY to Devil May Cry since it clearly helped inspire the show. RWBY has awesome fights and music backed by an awful story, while DMC has the same backed by a great story.
>They are generally more interested in shipping than the actual content of the series.
Because most of them are autistic chicks.
They were rough as hell but had a style that promised a lot for the future of the series, if it got proper funding and support.
Then it dropped the style. It's not "bad media literacy" that one is enjoying a visually appealing show and wanting a simple shonen story, ffs not everything has to be written like Camus.
I would say it got better, but it got worse in other areas, so it was a net negative. For some the action and style was a lot of what was appealing about RWBY - I still remember people hounding + hyping the animators for animating Sun's gunchucks post-V3. I'm pretty sure Sun's entire gun-chuck sequence was forced into the fight choreo because of fans were hyping it up, not that it was planned from the start.
>I would say it got better
NTA, but In what way?
Totally fine to ask that question. I'm not saying V4+ is strictly, I'd just recognize positives where they exist.
Improved quality of models and cut down on clipping/jank movement. More character development and the introduction to the main plot.
Again, with each plus you can provide a couple of minuses. MAYA improved a lot but also kept us from having consistent fights reminiscent of V1-3. The story got moving but the plot introduced a lot of issues that weakened the story (splitting up R/W/B/Y is good to focus on character development, but also complicated screen-time issues + pacing, etc.)
I do think season 5 is the lowest point. But 6-9 was far better than 1-3. They had better choreography for sure but the show itself looked like shit.
The biggest narrative frick up was leaving beacon so soon. Nothing was given proper time to develop before the "fall". They were barely a team.
>6-9 was better
Absolutely fricking not. The writing was even fricking worse. It was a worse show in so many respects.
How was it worse? There is so much more going on
And all of it was bad. There was simultaneously so much going on and nothing happening. All the characters largely stripped of their personalities and everything turning into a shitty melodrama. Standing and talking. moronic plot points like Adam, stealing the ship, ironwood, Oscars everything, the terrible side characters, reactionary writing, horrible focus and pacing, the entire bumbleby plot, the character centric morality, and downright nonsensical plot points.
RWBY's writing was never it's strong suit, but at least it used to have likeable characters and good action, and the show threw that away to turn shit into dumb therapy sessions. It's so absurdly bad and none of the character srcs or behaviors makes sense. Another thing is just making characters act dumb or OOC for the sake of the plot.
Because it was boring and the writing was shit. They also ruined all the characters.
homie have you seen how this show is bleeding fans? It's garbage.
Hm, I think the narrative frickup wasn't spending enough time on the reunion post V4. Could've been done better to make that a mini-arc of it's own with it's own conflict + battle sequence.
I agree that 6-9 was better for the most part, especially 9 which I think is pretty darn good to shock most contrarians here. But by this point just a single good volume doesn't stand up well to the broader context of a show that has the same underlying flaws. V7 was fine but then you had JNR shitting the bed and being absolutely useless in the story.
Again, I feel the show just needed more action for more of its characters to convey more of the story. Volume 9 actually had a good bit of action and didn't have many idle hands that other volumes have struggled with.
In terms of animation it definitely upgraded and I guess you could say the VA improved just from hiring big names but not much else.
>fun action show is bad because it didn't have high tier writing
V1-3 were better than anything that came after.
If someone doesn't like RWBY because it's too cutesy/anime/girly that's okay, but people who just say it's bad or low quality get filtered for being a soullet.
Dude, the whole thing looked like ass. Its saving grace was the action and the music.
Well, considering Ruby is only a year younger than Yang, Summer must have gotten pregnant immediately after Raven left or she must have already been pregnant.
Any random ass fights you wanted to see but we never got? Robyn never got a proper 1 on 1 fight. I think It might have been fun to see her fight Neo. Plus a range specialist might bring something new to the Neo dance.
Crow vs Ironwood grudgematch as the city falls out of the fricking sky would have been cool.
RWBY being unceremoniously canceled on a filler season feels fitting.
Lets face it rwby, the history, it characters and lore are pretty lame, plus the shitty 3fps tf2 saxxy style animation make it even less attractive
So what now?
WB either reboots it or lets it rot in a vault.
your a homosexual and people are only nice to you because you are weird and obviously autistic
Elm
https://files.catbox.moe/it8m4o.PNG
You like it?
>HEY GUYS! LOOK! IT'S "ICE QUEENDOM" IF RT THEMSELVES HAD MADE IT!
On a more serious note, we at least catch a glimpse of Weiss's exposed armpits, so this shouldn't be too bad for a fan project.
Looks good. I'll check it out for Best Girl.
Don't care
New season when
Never, lmao.
Dude it's not happening. RT has no animation and no money. You say you don't care but you should if you want another season.
I dropped the show a bit into season 5, did we ever get any Nora or Neo footshots?
>goes behind everyone's back to give away government secrets to Robyn, then puts blame on Ruby for Ironwood being mad at them
>cared more about protecting Blake than calming her sister down
>does nothing when Jaune makes her cry
>somehow couldn't figure out why Ruby was so upset and takes no responsibility for it
>puts pressure on Ruby to never leave her after practically abandoning her in her time of need
Why have they made Yang such a b***h recently?
Because they wanted to make her like Barb.
What awful things has she done?
Impressive how Jaune still causes this much seethe in some. Ruby headlines v6-9 and yet some still blame Jaune for her character being shitty. Honestly, Jaune is mostly easier to write for imo, its harder to fumble his story stuff.
They should have never bothered with race stuff and just had the demi humans be there. Yang's was fumbled when Monty died, the dream stuff and all plans with raven were gone with him. Weiss has NO excuse for how her storyline was handled and it's entirely the fault of the writers. Could have just created 1-3 elite characters (Vine & elm could have been 1 character imo). The election plot line was forced and so was Robyn and her friends. Atlas suffered alot writing wise when it shouldn't have.
The fricking only thing co and others talked about positively for the crossover was Jaune and Jess too.Modern day female leads suck since you aren't allowed to right them good.
>Impressive how Jaune still causes this much seethe in some.
It's mostly the "Jaune Dick-Riding Association" that gets under my skin at this point.
It's the insistence that he's a "good" character when he's just as mid as the rest of them.
The fact that you can't talk about RWBY without it turning into "Who should be the main girl in Jaune's deserved harem?"
The weird assumption that people who don't like Jaune should just accept that his failure to be a hero, or even a halfway decent leader, is "the best part of the show."
If I wanted the Jaune experience I'd get it from a better animated show, a light novel, or a manhua. The collective unconscious of retitled Naruto-fanfictions are not worth a discussion when I'm trying to talk about other characters.
Seethe
The only problem with Jaune is that he took up too much screen time in the early volumes and because of that RT is scared to make him competent and give him character growth.
They're not afraid to make him "fearless" though. Having him kill Penny, Ruby's friend, a girl he'd never had a conversation with, was the last straw for me.
Turning him into the Rusted Knight, like that's supposed to mean something to the audience, only to turn him back, was just confirmation.
I'm just never gonna like this character.
Went through the same thing with Blake in volumes 4-5, and Yang in volumes 6-7.
The "character development" in this show is a 10 year expedition to a deserted island.
I imagined Jaune would only get tumblrina haters. I understand haters besides that don't like him because he's kind of limp, kind of a gary stu. That being said he's not a bad hero archetype. He's not fricking the whole cast, I never found him a bad character. He's just a little milquetoast AT worst.
The faunus racism is only bad because it's not written well. The most famous examples are "Menagrie is too packed but we animated it so there's actually a lot of free land," and "We have like two instances of racism and a no faunus sign." I think despite it being cookiecutter racism plot despite just being bad, even as an absolute chud it makes SENSE for a random weird demi-race to be discriminated against.
>I think despite it being cookiecutter racism plot despite just being bad, even as an absolute chud it makes SENSE for a random weird demi-race to be discriminated against.
What if they were slaves instead?
RT wouldn't really be able to write that but it would be slightly more interesting, ya. I don't know if it would really say a lot more than just regular racism plot.
Could have the Schnees be the head honchos of the slave trade. Maybe even have Weiss own a slave. It wouldn’t make her evil since she’d grow up thinking it’s normal. From there, we can see her develop out of that mindset.
Not even that, sure they're still slaves but Weiss grows up so sheltered from both the world and the family "business" that she just believes that all Faunus are servants, the comedy bits of her treating Blake like one writes themselves not to mention, makes her actions non malicious AND hits harder when the revelations occur
Sheesh this was a good thread.
Needs more Blake boobies.
Even though I wish it wasn't the last season, the song is a good final if it is.
ENTER
>Ruby "41%" Rose
>Ruby "Chudby" Rose
>Ruby "YWNBAW" Rose
>Ruby "Frag a gay" Rose
>Ruby "bawd Shamer" Rose
>Ruby "Slay the Gay" Rose
>Ruby "ABC not LGBT" Rose
>Ruby "homosexual Flayer" Rose
>Ruby "The Gaybasher" Rose
>Ruby "Sodomite Slayer" Rose
>Ruby "Dyke on a Spike" Rose
>Ruby "Leviticus 18:22" Rose
>Ruby "Leviticus 18:23" Rose
>Ruby "Tea for Trannies" Rose
>Ruby "Smear the Queers" Rose
>Ruby "Rainbows must go" Rose
>Ruby "The troony Janny" Rose
>Ruby "Back to the Closet" Rose
>Ruby "I know what you are" Rose
>Ruby "Its just not natural" Rose
>Ruby "Alphabet Annihilator" Rose
>Ruby "Queer Hunting Season" Rose
>Ruby "Two Tacos are a No Go" Rose
>Ruby "Beat a Dyke with a pipe" Rose
>Ruby "Trans lives dont matter" Rose
>Ruby "God loves normal people" Rose
>Ruby "If it's gay it ain't okay" Rose
>Ruby "I dull my scythe on dykes" Rose
>Ruby "Spray and pray the gay away" rose
>Ruby "Carpet muncher face puncher" Rose
>Ruby "White Rose is not happening" Rose
>Ruby "Loony toons not Loony troons" Rose
>Ruby "One month is more than enough" Rose
>Ruby "Hand Grenade the Pride Parade" Rose
>Ruby "Woah, that's a little too gay" Rose
>Ruby "When I see a homosexual I floor it" Rose
>Ruby "Is not homophobia its homohate" Rose
>Ruby "Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve" Rose
>Ruby "Hit a Lesbian in my Mercedes Benz" Rose
>Ruby "I know how you got the monkey pox" Rose
>Ruby "Not too fond of the skittle squad" Rose
>Ruby "Enjoy that 44% domestic violence rate" Rose
>Ruby "The pearly gates won't open for your kind" Rose
Thread will be dead soon. Goodbye everybody! See you when RWBY Sisterhood releases.
>RWBY Sisterhood
Ain't no straight guy gonna watch something like that.
The Jaune Variety Show : Featuring RWBY
Last I heard Yang and Blake were officially made into dykes. Is this true?