It doesn’t matter, they’ll still churn out brown water like a ruptured sewer pipe and if they ever get into real trouble they’ll stick their hat out to daddy government for a bailout and they’ll get it.
I guess the marvels had the worst fate possible, not only did it bombed horribly but it's failure was nothing but an after thought for everyone, as soon as the people who went to see it left the screening room the movie was gone, think about it, flash bombed in second place but it's failure was loud, eye catching, memorable and everyone couldn't help but talk about it for a few weeks, Ezra Miller is a weirdo gay that committed many many crimes but holy shit the Feigie wish the marvels had that level of marketing.
It's even worse, because everyone knew it was going to bomb save for the coping redditards that expected it to do a billion like the first one. We all just waited for it to come and bomb, then when it did we all moved on without even giving it much more thought.
The Marvels failure has much wider repercussions than Flash since the DCEU was already dead. Marvel was trying to set up Captain Marvel as a new pillar of the MCU but after a failure like this they must be scared to even put her in a film. Her appearance would probably lose them money
>a fat little arab, a black woman who had a bit part in a tv show and the woman nobody likes...and cats, lots of cats! >that will surely sell our movie!
>We're trying to bring the single cat mom/nightly wine drinker demographic into the audience of superhero movies
This is what happens when you put women in charge of things.
Because the people making that decision are executives who only care about money. They talk about shit like expanding the marketshare instead of maintaining the relationship they have with their existing audience
> executives who only care about money
But that's the thing, it loses money, and they should have realised it by now.
Not only do they lose their core audience, they don't even attract their target new one...
>Because the people making that decision are executives who only care about money.
Are they also stupid? Like borderline moronic? And I mean stupider than the stupid chuds of Cinemaphile who could see that all of these would flop a mile away, and wouldn't make any money (the ONLY thing executives care about).
Have they ever had to justify to their shareholders (who also only care about money) as to why they produced a movie even a fat basement dweller loser with no experience in the industry, no knowledge of financial forecasting and no access to market research could tell was going to flop just from hearing the title? Realistically, how do you justify that? How do you live with that shame, if all you care about is money?
yes, share holders are actually just high time preference apes who can only seem to envision up the next quarter. hence why they put in executives that cut quality, cut workers, and never seem to do anything but gut a company and then merge it with a bigger one for a few extra bucks
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>yes
Yes, they are stupid? Stupider than the chuds?
No way the flash didn't lose as much money as the marvels if not even more, they still must be lying and hiding the real numbers.
that movie was in development for like a decade, back when the cw show was starting, there were already news about its early development, then the constant change of directors, rewritings, failed test screenings, fake good reviews by industry shills and hollywood people, excessive cgi and the salary of the actors.
The Flash is still one of the biggest bombs ever, it's just that the Marvels became THE biggest bomb ever which makes it not look as bad. Almost any other year, Flash would have topped the list as the biggest bomb by far. Even John Carter lost less money than The Marvels.
Damn, people aren't phased much from such massive flops anymore. I remember when huge box office bombs were a big deal or at least there is some degree of infamy to them (13th Warrior, The Postman, Pluto Nash). Shit must've been so dire when even Indiana Jones of all things flopped and people didn't care about it.
Flops use to destroy studios and bankrupt them. Now that they're all absorbed by these giant corporations, bombs just don't have the same impact and the same people that caused the bomb continue to make bombs.
It's crazy that they can take numerous bombs now but they still only make the most homogenous slop, while they used to experiment and profit on the occasional hit, playing the long game
What's killed the cinema for me is
1) The shit quality of films
2) The price of a ticket
Even the best films released today are 8/10 at best and pale in comparison to films from twenty years ago, let alone longer. It would be hard to justify if prices were still reasonable but throw in they've increased dramatically and it's simply not worth it anymore.
I wouldn't know but there probably is. The cinemas need to make something. Screening advertisements is probably as lucrative as showing the movies barely anyone shows up for.
At this point it's just expected. Still, The Marvels beating John Carter to become the largest box office bomb in history should probably be bigger news. That's historic.
What sucks is 13th Warrior, Postman, and Waterworld are all either good or at least watchable. I couldn't even sit through The Marvels with it on in the background.
There are plenty or movies that according to critics are messes but when I sit to watch them, they turn to be okay. Not great but not the Room or Cats.
What the heck is happening?
I remember people talking about Last Action Hero bombing for years, having book chapters written about how much of a catastrophe it was, and it lost $26 million.
they created a whole entertainment news eco-system that is solely designed around gaslighting their consumers, on top of some kind of financial hocus pocus and merger shenanigans that let's them effortlessly eat time and time again the loss without any consequences, this is the end result
>studios lose money hand over first shooting their poz load on humanity >get government bailout >government prints more money >inflation goes up >everyone loses except the studios that didn't lose anything
L'chaim.
It's not glitch, it's by design.
Disney and basically every other giant corporation in the world received trillions of dollars in investment from Blackrock in exchange for filling their products with woke slop. It doesn't matter if these movies flopped, Blackrock already paid them way more money than they lost, that's why they're doing this.
Blackrock receives its money from the federal reserve.
The Federal reserve is a private institution that operates completely out of control of the government despite controlling the government's finances, and has the power to simply make up money out of thin air and have it count as legal tender.
Releasing it in the summer was a bad idea. The only people who wanted to see it were boomer dads, but during the summer they'd rather be outside playing golf or mowing the lawn than go to the theatre.
Apart from Wish and Flash those are pretty kino films though and made losses for dumb reasons:
The Marvels:
Should have had a team synopsis at the start. Unless you had already watched miss marvel, which you couldn't unless you already had Disney + and had enough time and motivation to watch an entire tv series you're not going to know what the frick is going on or care about the character, that's where critics were coming in so no wonder they were a bit cold in reviews.
Indiana Jones 5:
Not a bad film, better than Crystal Skull, but people went into it thinking P W-B was going to be a man hating terf based on the one feminist line she said as a joke being the focus of the entire trailer it would seem. Really the character wasn't like that and when the idea was first floated they wanted it to be actual Lara Croft and the film to be an Indiana Jones and Lara Croft crossover, but they couldn't get the rights and had to rewrite it enough that they wouldn't get done for copyright. Didn't help doing a premiere at an artsy film festival share only artsy critics who hate action films would be there.
Haunted Mansion:
Was originally made mainly as a fun Halloween comedy for Disney +, not cinemas at all, but had to have a cinema release because of actors contracts and the possibility of some awards contention (not major ones but it has some good SFX and costumes and if Suicide Squad can win an Oscar then, why the he'll not at least make it eligible for nomination). A low key summer release for a Halloween film tells you they weren't expecting this to be where it found its audience, but the usual convention is things come to the home market 3 months or so after it starts in cinemas.
Fact is though they could release shitload of films like this and the profits from just one Avatar film or one big Avengers film will pay for years of losses. As well as that, think how many people around the world have Disney + and are paying them a set amount each month.
Funny.
It doesn’t matter, they’ll still churn out brown water like a ruptured sewer pipe and if they ever get into real trouble they’ll stick their hat out to daddy government for a bailout and they’ll get it.
I guess the marvels had the worst fate possible, not only did it bombed horribly but it's failure was nothing but an after thought for everyone, as soon as the people who went to see it left the screening room the movie was gone, think about it, flash bombed in second place but it's failure was loud, eye catching, memorable and everyone couldn't help but talk about it for a few weeks, Ezra Miller is a weirdo gay that committed many many crimes but holy shit the Feigie wish the marvels had that level of marketing.
It's even worse, because everyone knew it was going to bomb save for the coping redditards that expected it to do a billion like the first one. We all just waited for it to come and bomb, then when it did we all moved on without even giving it much more thought.
The Marvels failure has much wider repercussions than Flash since the DCEU was already dead. Marvel was trying to set up Captain Marvel as a new pillar of the MCU but after a failure like this they must be scared to even put her in a film. Her appearance would probably lose them money
and that's a good thing
What a way to celebrate the 100th anniversary of Disney!
They aren't sending us their best cartoon mice.
Wokey brokey
Pretty much all profitable movies are woke as well.
>a fat little arab, a black woman who had a bit part in a tv show and the woman nobody likes...and cats, lots of cats!
>that will surely sell our movie!
>We're trying to bring the single cat mom/nightly wine drinker demographic into the audience of superhero movies
This is what happens when you put women in charge of things.
Why do they always think they can claim some new demographic without alienating the ones who currently do watch their slop?
Because the people making that decision are executives who only care about money. They talk about shit like expanding the marketshare instead of maintaining the relationship they have with their existing audience
> executives who only care about money
But that's the thing, it loses money, and they should have realised it by now.
Not only do they lose their core audience, they don't even attract their target new one...
>Because the people making that decision are executives who only care about money.
Are they also stupid? Like borderline moronic? And I mean stupider than the stupid chuds of Cinemaphile who could see that all of these would flop a mile away, and wouldn't make any money (the ONLY thing executives care about).
Have they ever had to justify to their shareholders (who also only care about money) as to why they produced a movie even a fat basement dweller loser with no experience in the industry, no knowledge of financial forecasting and no access to market research could tell was going to flop just from hearing the title? Realistically, how do you justify that? How do you live with that shame, if all you care about is money?
yes, share holders are actually just high time preference apes who can only seem to envision up the next quarter. hence why they put in executives that cut quality, cut workers, and never seem to do anything but gut a company and then merge it with a bigger one for a few extra bucks
>yes
Yes, they are stupid? Stupider than the chuds?
I liked The Marvels.
Why?
It was good. I'm trans and have down syndrome btw.
Don’t shit on downies they are good boys
I just said I'm a girl.
Kek I don’t think there are any trans downies, they are not that moronic
>Kek I don’t think there are any trans downies
You clearly haven't met many modern Disney fans.
>$628 million loss from four movies
I'm sure the merchandise and toy sales meant they broke even, right shills?
No way the flash didn't lose as much money as the marvels if not even more, they still must be lying and hiding the real numbers.
that movie was in development for like a decade, back when the cw show was starting, there were already news about its early development, then the constant change of directors, rewritings, failed test screenings, fake good reviews by industry shills and hollywood people, excessive cgi and the salary of the actors.
The Flash is still one of the biggest bombs ever, it's just that the Marvels became THE biggest bomb ever which makes it not look as bad. Almost any other year, Flash would have topped the list as the biggest bomb by far. Even John Carter lost less money than The Marvels.
they wouldn't lose so much when the movies are 500 million to make. actual money laundering shit going on
Damn, people aren't phased much from such massive flops anymore. I remember when huge box office bombs were a big deal or at least there is some degree of infamy to them (13th Warrior, The Postman, Pluto Nash). Shit must've been so dire when even Indiana Jones of all things flopped and people didn't care about it.
we've been going for 5 years with flop after flop, if anything this is the norm
Flops use to destroy studios and bankrupt them. Now that they're all absorbed by these giant corporations, bombs just don't have the same impact and the same people that caused the bomb continue to make bombs.
The whole economy is like this now just incompetence everywhere but every industry is practically monopoly owned by capital management
It's crazy that they can take numerous bombs now but they still only make the most homogenous slop, while they used to experiment and profit on the occasional hit, playing the long game
Aren't all movies pretty much bombing these day? Streaming and lockdown inflation pretty much killed the experience of going to cinema?
What's killed the cinema for me is
1) The shit quality of films
2) The price of a ticket
Even the best films released today are 8/10 at best and pale in comparison to films from twenty years ago, let alone longer. It would be hard to justify if prices were still reasonable but throw in they've increased dramatically and it's simply not worth it anymore.
It also seems like there are way more ads in the cinema than there used to
I wouldn't know but there probably is. The cinemas need to make something. Screening advertisements is probably as lucrative as showing the movies barely anyone shows up for.
At this point it's just expected. Still, The Marvels beating John Carter to become the largest box office bomb in history should probably be bigger news. That's historic.
>Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas
I remember watching this in theaters and enjoying it
People still joke about Waterworld to this day. Crazy how things have turned out.
What sucks is 13th Warrior, Postman, and Waterworld are all either good or at least watchable. I couldn't even sit through The Marvels with it on in the background.
There are plenty or movies that according to critics are messes but when I sit to watch them, they turn to be okay. Not great but not the Room or Cats.
What the heck is happening?
Waterworld was and still is AWESOME!
They're all KINO
Flops are considered noble sacrifices now. Saintly corporations inflict them upon bigoted audiences who deserve movies they don't like.
I remember people talking about Last Action Hero bombing for years, having book chapters written about how much of a catastrophe it was, and it lost $26 million.
they created a whole entertainment news eco-system that is solely designed around gaslighting their consumers, on top of some kind of financial hocus pocus and merger shenanigans that let's them effortlessly eat time and time again the loss without any consequences, this is the end result
I think add networks keep all the influencers inline as well
wouldn't that be something if the next great depression is caused by the entertainment industry taking down the entire global economy
Flash and indy5 numbers are rigged there's no way they lost that little money.
Why the FRICK are they still trying to make Cpt. Marvel work? Brie is not a charismatic lead and people don't care anymore
There has to be infinite money glitch somewhere, this slop makes no sense.
They can't be doing whatever they're doing now forever that's for sure. At some point, something's got to give.
>studios lose money hand over first shooting their poz load on humanity
>get government bailout
>government prints more money
>inflation goes up
>everyone loses except the studios that didn't lose anything
L'chaim.
It's not glitch, it's by design.
Disney and basically every other giant corporation in the world received trillions of dollars in investment from Blackrock in exchange for filling their products with woke slop. It doesn't matter if these movies flopped, Blackrock already paid them way more money than they lost, that's why they're doing this.
Blackrock receives its money from the federal reserve.
The Federal reserve is a private institution that operates completely out of control of the government despite controlling the government's finances, and has the power to simply make up money out of thin air and have it count as legal tender.
If true then the movie did not bomb. Therefore go woke go broke is not true.
chudbros we won
Indy 5 was kino.
I genuinely liked Haunted Mansion. Nothing pozzed in that whole movie, but there was one problem. NOT FRICKING RELEASING IT IN OCTOBER.
Having a $150m budget for a haunted house movie is also moronic.
>Aquaman 2 made more than an Indiana Jones movie
How does that happen?
Releasing it in the summer was a bad idea. The only people who wanted to see it were boomer dads, but during the summer they'd rather be outside playing golf or mowing the lawn than go to the theatre.
Apart from Wish and Flash those are pretty kino films though and made losses for dumb reasons:
The Marvels:
Should have had a team synopsis at the start. Unless you had already watched miss marvel, which you couldn't unless you already had Disney + and had enough time and motivation to watch an entire tv series you're not going to know what the frick is going on or care about the character, that's where critics were coming in so no wonder they were a bit cold in reviews.
Indiana Jones 5:
Not a bad film, better than Crystal Skull, but people went into it thinking P W-B was going to be a man hating terf based on the one feminist line she said as a joke being the focus of the entire trailer it would seem. Really the character wasn't like that and when the idea was first floated they wanted it to be actual Lara Croft and the film to be an Indiana Jones and Lara Croft crossover, but they couldn't get the rights and had to rewrite it enough that they wouldn't get done for copyright. Didn't help doing a premiere at an artsy film festival share only artsy critics who hate action films would be there.
Haunted Mansion:
Was originally made mainly as a fun Halloween comedy for Disney +, not cinemas at all, but had to have a cinema release because of actors contracts and the possibility of some awards contention (not major ones but it has some good SFX and costumes and if Suicide Squad can win an Oscar then, why the he'll not at least make it eligible for nomination). A low key summer release for a Halloween film tells you they weren't expecting this to be where it found its audience, but the usual convention is things come to the home market 3 months or so after it starts in cinemas.
Fact is though they could release shitload of films like this and the profits from just one Avatar film or one big Avengers film will pay for years of losses. As well as that, think how many people around the world have Disney + and are paying them a set amount each month.