[Sad News] Disney has failed to make back what it spent to acquire Star Wars

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its really just part of the long grift

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They absolutely shat the bed with their sequel trilogy.
      The actors are dead and dying now. There's no coming back from this

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Genuinely believe that there is high level industry espionage going on. There's 0 way executives see the numbers but continue to let a company like Disney fail by releasing poz slop.
    If you had told me 10 years ago that Star Wars could be made non-profitable I would have laughed in your face, the IP is a license to print money.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s the perfect grift. Get those sweet DEI bucks for a mediocre movie with pajeet CGI and low-tier actors, toss the actual budget for the film straight into your bank accounts, and pay barely any taxes because your trash movie doesn’t make any money on paper. It’s Hollywood accounting subsidized by the state

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This explains it in general kinda, but Disney specifically isn't just paying lip service, they're doubling and tripling down.

        Anon, the executives are the ones pushing the agenda. And what does espionage have to do with anything? Did you confuse the words espionage and corruption?

        I believe that someone within Disney is intentionally destroying the company, maybe Bezos has someone in their gutting its value so that it can be acquired by Amazon.
        Even when it comes to 'pushing wokeness' there's like a normal level and then there's Disney's level. In the case of Star Wars it's not even really a wokeness thing at this point, it's baffling writing that makes it into million dollar shows. Hell they made something palatable (accidentally let someone passionate make something they were passionate about and the fans would enjoy) and as soon as that was well received they cannibalized it to launch 10 other shitty shows that nobody wanted, watched or cared about.
        The problem with the theory that they're going woke for profit is that the company is imploding.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They don’t care if the company makes money, it’s just a front for fraudulent criminal activity. They’re making money hand over fist while the company goes bankrupt

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The activist DEI diversity hires Disney filled themselves with to meet DEI quotas are unintentionally destroying the company while thinking they are saving it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The only part that leaves out is *why* he has a hard-on for it, and that reason is that it’s an excellent diversion off of one 1% for another.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the why is to game politics so no actual opposition to corporate control over every aspect of society can form, to prevent another occupy.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Correct.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literally 0 proof. Typical schizo posting

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that's right goy! esg and cei index are just incentives!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's out in public moron
          >Aladdin has a collection of ESG data and solutions that empowers ESG integration across investment workflows and helps users report on their ESG efforts. We offer clients access to 60+ ESG metrics in our Starter Pack, at no additional cost, and access to 8,000+ additional metrics based on licensing.
          Yes it's as moronic as that anon said

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >EVERYTHING YOU DISLIKE IS THE FAULT OF JUST ONE VERY BAD NO GOOD MAN WHO DIDNT GET ENOUGH SPANKINGS, NO THERE IS NO WIDER INCENTIVES TO DO WHAT HE IS DOING IT IS THIS SINGULAR INDIVDUALS FAULT!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes, 11 trillion dollars to throw around gives a person near complete control over tons of shit.

          the richest man in the world, in 1776, was the king of england. the founding fathers set up tons of laws and regulations specifically to prevent him from just buying the colonies back.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            morons like you don't understand how finance works because you have no money

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i accept your concession

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this is a lot to type in order to show that you don't know how this stuff works at all, lol. calling blackrock a hedge fund immediately removes any credibility you have.

        it's even worse if you screen shot and repost because you've been confused by a moron's uninformed ramblings.

        that's right goy! esg and cei index are just incentives!

        It's out in public moron
        >Aladdin has a collection of ESG data and solutions that empowers ESG integration across investment workflows and helps users report on their ESG efforts. We offer clients access to 60+ ESG metrics in our Starter Pack, at no additional cost, and access to 8,000+ additional metrics based on licensing.
        Yes it's as moronic as that anon said

        tards like you just see that ESG exists, don't bother to look into how it's measured and implemented, and build a world view around it. deeply sad and disappointing way to think and cope.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, the executives are the ones pushing the agenda. And what does espionage have to do with anything? Did you confuse the words espionage and corruption?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the IP is a license to print money.
      Was.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The executives and bored still get paid ESG bonuses from blackrock and state street even if the movies flop.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i genuinely think it was just execs and their hires being completely out of touch. i think kathleen kennedy has dirt on people too
      but yeah its fricking amazing how they pretty much destroyed a franchise

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is unironically communism. The banking system is paying companies to push ideology, and yes its communism when bankers control supply of money and get to manipulate companies, thats end goal of communism they just dont tell the useful idiots that,.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        apparently rule of separation of powers needs to be revised

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Apparently its not that easy to make a good SW movie even you are a fan full of enthusiasm.
      Disney were too stubborn to admit that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's incredibly easy, hell you coulds do it with literally the same general set up as TFA
        >pre-amble, the new republic is now a major power but the vacuum left by the empire has given rise to criminal cartels and general lawlessness as well as cells of empire loyalists
        >movie opens with a fight of republics vs stormtroopers at a republic outpost
        >a man is fleeing from them, turns out to be a spy who has critical intel on the empies
        >passes it off to his partner poe who is an agent and crack pilot
        >storm troopers are in a stalemate taking heavy losses
        >one storm trooper is staggering around shell shocked watching his friends and civvies die all around him
        >one of his comrades does the blood handprint and he ends up fleeing
        >battle turns around when kylo ren shows up and just starts fricking everyone up
        >he kills the spy
        >meanwhile poe having found all the republic ships destroyed steals a storm trooper ship
        >is damaged as he flees and it is revealed that a disorientated finn is on board
        >hyperspaces away but ends up crashing on a shitty swamp wasteland
        >hard cut to rey
        >scrapper orphan on that swamp planet
        >she's handing in scrap before heading home with ration
        >sees ship crashing
        >investigates
        >poe and finn are fighting in the wreckage, finn gets the upper hand but ends the fight
        >rey offers to help them in exchange for part of their wreck
        >reveals she has built a cobbled together spaceship but doesn't know how to fly it and just wants off the planet
        >kylo once again shows up but is hampered by hutt criminals
        >fricks them up showing that he's ruthless and not into negotiating
        >they manage to flee again ship is just enough to get them to a nearby republic base
        >hologram general leia is teased and kylo ren sieges base
        >they prepare to flee again but kylo catches up
        >rey activates latent force powers to everyone's surprise but ultimately is too weak
        >finn grenades himself to blow up kylo dying to save them
        >they get out
        >wounded kylo retreats
        >end movie

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also Finn would be a serious character and not a joke and his backstory would be that he was orphaned by slavers and freed by the empire

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >black main protagonist was also slave
            Kek. Disney would never let it happen

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Child slave and they absolutely would, but it isn't necessary anyway the important thing is that he was orphaned and the storm troopers showed up and put things right. This gives him good conflict and also provides motiviation for him to save Rey.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To understand what is going on, look at what blockbusting did for the real estate industry.

      What that was, was moving black people into rich areas so people would sell their property at a loss.

      This is a similar mechanism, except under the pretense of social progress, where companies adopt DEI/Woke in order to devalue thier own companies, which will then be sold and then consolidated into an even greater oligarchy consisting of even fewer distinct corporate entities.It's no secret that Iger has political asperations and he is willing to trade Disney for a middle management position in the NGO/WEF or whathaveyou

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So when Yidney and every IP it owns can be sold for three hot dogs and a paperclip, Iger has won?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Essentially, if anything because Disney can't even exist as a competitive force on the market. Look at EA. They buy company after company, then proceed to make precisely nothing except the sloppiest of goyslop. EA doesn't want the IPs, it wants to prevent competition. It wasn't that long ago that there were rumors of an Apple buyout

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Prevent competition while blowing holes into their flagship?
            Fricking moronic, and who would or could actually buy them out? Apple seems like a meme to em

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The people buying disney would be deepsixing the IPs or otherwise devaluing it. Iger doesn't care about Disney, he cares about his mission as given to him by the powers that be that espouse the DEI shit. You're working under the assumption that Iger and company are working under self interest as a Disney brand.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To be more exact, Iger DESPERATELY wants to get into politics and become the Presidency of the United States in particular. It's one of the reasons for him jumping into the pissing match with DeSantis as Iger's thing for woke politics is mostly him trying to present himself as the "right side of history" Donald Trump for when he inevitably tries to buy his way into high office using woke Disney as his stepping stone.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >jumping into the pissing match with DeSantis
                IIRC then at that point Iger actually wanted to keep calm and not do anything but he was held hostage by all the troonyhomosexuals at Yidney going on strike.
                Though I have heard that he wants to get into Politics as well.

                The people buying disney would be deepsixing the IPs or otherwise devaluing it. Iger doesn't care about Disney, he cares about his mission as given to him by the powers that be that espouse the DEI shit. You're working under the assumption that Iger and company are working under self interest as a Disney brand.

                >under self interest as a Disney brand.
                No, I know they aren't but I was working under the assumption that Iger and Kathleen THINK they can both make propaganda as well as profits.
                They are obviously moronic, in this scenario Kiger will try to keep some value to Yidney cause otherwise his own holocausted grandmother wouldn't watch the films.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I keep hearing that Iger has political aspirations but the dudes in his seventies and has just been a corpo all his life. Sure you can say he'd fit right in but he's a little late in the game to just jump into the big leagues.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Iger is way younger than Trump physically and mentally. If Iger had the guts to lie about building the wall or whatever moron virtue signal Republicans want he could easily get elected. Elon is trying but he has zero rizz.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >let a company like Disney fail by releasing poz slop.
      they get a lot of ESG funding to offset losses and they can afford them. pushing the message is more important than pushing out a profit for now and disney and other corpos are banking on audiences molding to their movies instead of the other way around. expect nothing but flopbusters until major studios file for bankruptcy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When was the last time they actually got any hard cash from blackwiener and co?
        That aside there is no pushing the message when 90% of your potential audience tunes you out from the start and all you're left with is bots and people so moronic they might as well be bots.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kind of sad how quickly they managed to turn Star Wars into a joke.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There was one shareholder who was saying they need to frick off the poz and start making money - the other shareholders 'overwhelmingly' voted that guy down

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        (and btw the current "all in" strategy by these people is instead of cutting poz, to cut "costs". so making streaming shows and then deleting them... somehow this is going to make them rich)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not shareholders but board members. They're the ones feeding false information to Disney shareholders.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This explains it in general kinda, but Disney specifically isn't just paying lip service, they're doubling and tripling down.
      [...]
      I believe that someone within Disney is intentionally destroying the company, maybe Bezos has someone in their gutting its value so that it can be acquired by Amazon.
      Even when it comes to 'pushing wokeness' there's like a normal level and then there's Disney's level. In the case of Star Wars it's not even really a wokeness thing at this point, it's baffling writing that makes it into million dollar shows. Hell they made something palatable (accidentally let someone passionate make something they were passionate about and the fans would enjoy) and as soon as that was well received they cannibalized it to launch 10 other shitty shows that nobody wanted, watched or cared about.
      The problem with the theory that they're going woke for profit is that the company is imploding.

      I heard it's apple that has guys on the inside driving the company to the ground so they can acquire Disney on the cheap.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It isn't you moron, and I don't know why people keep claiming it is unless they're fricking shills. Apple doesn't want to own Disney, they aren't in the theme park business and don't want to be.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No one is going to buy another Hollywood studio after the WB/discovery debacle. They’re going to wait for it to collapse and pick up ip at auction.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >pick up ip at auction.

          To understand what is going on, look at what blockbusting did for the real estate industry.

          What that was, was moving black people into rich areas so people would sell their property at a loss.

          This is a similar mechanism, except under the pretense of social progress, where companies adopt DEI/Woke in order to devalue thier own companies, which will then be sold and then consolidated into an even greater oligarchy consisting of even fewer distinct corporate entities.It's no secret that Iger has political asperations and he is willing to trade Disney for a middle management position in the NGO/WEF or whathaveyou

          >at what blockbusting did for the real estate industry.

          But Ip's aren't real estate, if you devalue the IP it's stays devalued it doesn't have any inate value or scarcity.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes, that is why the concept of "auctions" exist.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Make an item shit so that doesn't make money
              >So you can buy it for cheap
              >Buy shit covered item
              >So now you are the one not making money.
              Where does the profit come in again

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it doesn't seem like you understand the concept of buying intellectual property rights at auction, for cheap, after the company that shat all over them is in ruins.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't seem to understand that a company in ruins doesn't have IPs worth saving.
                It value is purely reputational, its not like a factory or anything else that can be retooled.
                Once you destory a fanbase like this, it is harder to restore them than to retool a different IP entirely.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The movies would've all made money has Disney not paid several billion dollars for the IP. Even rise of skywalker made more money than any of the prequels.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Or maybe just maybe everyone there is legitimatly impressive and still thinking it's about the money is moronic
      >muh blackrock
      nothing but a bonus, they're all true believers. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he was in it for the money

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not really espionage, Disney just got moronic and thought that the pathway to increasing star wars sales was to engage a new audience with it- women. There's some data that shows that women will only watch shows and play videogames if the protagonist is female or the playable character is female, but the reverse isn't true- men watch and play female characters all the time. So the solution is to make predominately female characters in the leading roles since "the data" shows that it can only do good. The problem is they had some sort of competency crisis where they wrote their sequel trilogy in 3 separate parts rather than writing the whole thing at once.

      The end result is that they alienated the original fanbase and failed to gain a new one with the changes they made. It's not a devious plot. Ok, there are some gays at Disney trying to shoe-in gays and trannies into Star Wars like they are into everything else, but it's not some overarching corporate plot to destroy the franchise they bought and paid for.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Men might be happy to watch shows and play games with female protagonists.
        But they do kinda have to be hot and likeable.
        Not ugly snarky feminist hatepigs.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Genuinely believe that there is high level industry espionage going on

      It's actually corporate executive subversion through lectures.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and corporate executive subversives into soap

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    now post the merchandising and theme park profits

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >now post the merchandising and theme park profits
      Yeah, and how about that Star Wars Hotel.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So what happens to Iger now? They just voted to keep him but this cannot be a good look to those that voted for him to stay on the Board

      What about all these unsold Rose Tico toys?
      Was there any toy that sold well for the Disney films?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They just voted to keep him
        Christ, really?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes and Lucas backed him.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Meanwhile amateurs blew luacs AND disney the frick out with green screen reshoots and editing

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >FIRST Lucas calls Disney "White Slavers"
            >THEN he backs them as if he never said it
            Whoa! Sounds like the same Lucas who went back and forth for years about whether or not he ever wrote anything after E6 or not. George is a known, proven liar.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lucas is a democrat supporter.
            Bob Eiger is a democrat
            The guy trying to get in on the board isn't.
            It's an election year with the evil orange Hitler poised to retake the presidency.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And I forgot to add:
              >Disney owns 'news' media, not just entertainment

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think a lot of people brought one of the lightyear space ships to paint it black as a proxy for some other spaceship

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lol, they spent $400 million on Galactic Starcruiser and had to close it less than 2 years later.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can go to Ross and see for yourself.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This wastage is honestly sickening tbh. These things never should have been made, not to mention the movies on which this merch is based.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the merch that doesn't sell, granted that's the toy stores eating that cost to a significant extent, if disney didn't get any money until the end consumer the cost of toy design and production alone wouldn't even be made up by sales

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What merchandise? When I was a kid my parents spent hundreds on star wars toys for myself and my brother. My kids have two star wars toys total, they were small hot wheels cars that were gifts. Disney dropped the ball in getting kids hooked on star wars at a young age.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you think these posts are pathetic attempts at market manipulation? Funded by shareholders looking to knock off Iger?

      The pathetic thing is there a non-zero number of people who fall for this crap. My Republican grandpa believes all of the anti-Disney facebook shit.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lots of us have been saying that for years.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and none of you actually have access to that data. shocking that you morons would just talk out of your ass like that

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    APOLOGIZE

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You know this guy crashed the franchise so hard that he had to sell the entire IP?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He was already very rich, why destroy your life's work to get even richer?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Greed and bitterness. He was genuinely hurt by the response to the prequels and started claiming he only made them to make up for the money he lost in his divorcee and they're just kids movies so who cares if the adult fans didn't like them, and all kinds of cope.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He did the right thing selling it off. Even he was slowly killing his own creation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      MESA SORRY

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lel

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        underrated

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >apologise to Disney's majority stockholder

      Lmao no

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah george should apologize for the special editions, the prequels, and then pawning the corpse of star wars off to disney

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He would've gone with the woke agenda as well.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't this creep give both Kathneen and Iger the thumbs up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >apologize who?
      >I apologize!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sorry you willingly sold your IP to israelites, George, it was obviously not your fault for being a money-obsessed boomer

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fake news. They literally made it all back with TFA already.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, little known fact is that movies are free to make, marketing is inexpensive and the cinemas don't take a cut from ticket sales. Means movies are hyper profitable.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Disney will be hoping its upcoming Grogu movie will help recoup the cost of buying Lucasfilm
    Grim.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How could that be when TLJ was the top-grossing movie of 2017 and critically aclaimed?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I will never understand why the critics jerk off TFA and TLJ so much

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They’re unironically paid off

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There was a point in time when people believed the "sexist manbabies hate star wars" propaganda, you only have to look at the TFA RLM video to see it in practice, it's just 1984 style right think and double think.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Disney paid them

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All astro-turfed. They do this with every tentpole franchise in film and tv.
        It's a good idea to wait 2 weeks to 2 months until the review embargo is over. That's when you see the real opinions come out.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        jj abrams has a ton of friends and rian prostrated himself before leftist political power

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The critics are paid off Disney shills

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Critics are either outright bought or coerced by threatening to kick them out of early viewing. If they poorly review it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Disney writes large checks anon

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Disney doesn't even have to write checks. They can uninvite critics, or people from the website the critic works on, from events and stop giving them swag, making that one critic the odd man out while the rest are showing off Disney's latest junk to their viewers. Disney can also cut ads from a website hurting revenue. Critics need to stay on the good sides of the major studios to stay online.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            TRUTH. This is what you all need to know and to never trust critics. Being among the first to review anything is the difference between failure and success. How many reviews do YOU keep reading? Most go by the first review or so, almost nobody keeps reading reviews a week after something debuts, so a late reviewer fails. Hence, every critic wants to be "first" or at least out of the gate whenever an embargo lifts.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fluorinated water

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Somehow became a culture war issue

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        subversive media is praised simply for being subversive

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >pissing off fans good, corporate elites should be able to tell us what's good or not
        that's it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Black person it's a nucritics influx i.e. youtube homosexual functional moron nobodies with no scholastic nor practical expertise to talk about anything movie related
        the old critics were fart sniffing gays but they didn't just consoom capeshit and starshit
        watch how every year there's more and more reviews aggregated for every new blockbuster

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Rotten Tomatoes expanded what the site considers critics to minority bloggers and vloggers because the news media made a controversy over the old fart sniffing critics being mostly white straight males. Then people stopped caring about the critics score because it became a useless measure for the quality of a film, and they began to focus on the audience score exclusively. Then Rotten Tomatoes nerfed the audience score as well, if I'm remembering it correctly it was by limiting the audience score to specially approved users.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >scholastic nor practical expertise in movies

          What's next? Scholastic knowledge in Beyblades?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A New Hope and Revenge of the Sith unironically mog everything on that list, with the exception of Return of the Jedi.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        RotJ is mediocre and RotS is downright bad.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe if you're a complete brainlet

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >top-grossing movie of 2017
      >not understanding the other half of the equation to get to the overall profit
      Surely you jest anon

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A screenshot of something you typed yourself in Notes? You can see the spellcheck and cursor. I agree wokewars is garbage and I'm based as frick but come on dude.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Now compare it to the relevant reviews

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that isn't news

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's literally not possible. The reliable and curated sources told me they made back their budget in 2015, 2017, 2019, 2023 and 2024 simultaneously.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >rising stars
    They didn't rise so good.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe they should've tried to make actual good movies instead of propaganda films.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >box office profits
    Black person they made back that money in merch sales alone

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you mean the merch sales that were so terrible they bankrupted toys r us?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the merch sales they swindled toys r us with and made profit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Black person they made back that money in merch sales alone
      The merch sales of the high desirability hero models (of which there weren't many) barely covered the cost of manufacturing for the mountain of finns and reys and roses that were getting landfilled because not even thrift stores would take them for free. I remember seeing pictures of that trash in 2nd hand shops still mint, sealed in package labeled for 99c a piece sitting in piles untouched. I've got a friend who's a /toy/gay and the impression I got from him is that the only toys that actually sold out and made good money was the chrome Phasma figures. Everything else was middling at best.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fun fact, Hasbro LOST 300 million during 2017 for Star Wars brands. TLJ came out in december of 2016 and Solo came out in 2017, so with two major releases they should have been at their peak.

      Fricking nope, they sunk and Rogue One toys were being sold for, this is not hyperbole, 3 cents. "You're just making that up!", you might say, since 3 cents doesn't even cover the cost of the paper, but there it is. Walmart sold Rogue One black series toys, for 3. Cents. 3 pennies. Disney took the most consistent merch mover of all time, the most consistent seller across any media brand out there besides Pokemon, and they fricking tanked it during the biggest push it got in 2 decades.

      Bask in the failure of Star Wars, it's a frickup you're not likely to see again.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've always thought about how funny it is to compare the toy potential of Star Wars sequels vs OT and prequels. You've got Clones, Boba Fett, other Boba Fett, droids of all kinds, General Grievous, etc. etc. the list goes on vs ugly white woman, ugly asian woman and niggo.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Number one - don't take Finn out of the fricking Stormtrooper armor. He's just some Black person in a stolen jacket otherwise, 0% iconic. Rey was too Disney princess AND too plain-jane to be attractive as a toy or a doll, no action-ability. Poe was just a pilot, Wedge action figures primarily sold because he was in the Rebel flight suit. Rose? Fricking lmao.

          Same goes for all the RO and Solo toys. The more ""real"" your designs are, the less suited they are to be a toy.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Or you know, just put cool shit in Star Wars? The most popular toys were never the main characters, it was always the cool looking guys like Fett and Maul.
            Like if you're going to do the whole "our main character is a Mary Sue that nobody likes and the supports are racially diverse spastics that nobody likes" then at least have them run into cool designs. Frick the entire story is a rehash, they put no effort into anything else, the LEAST they could have done was put something into cashing in on toys.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yidney hated Star Wars so much they didn't even put a single OT or PT alien into the new movies, save for Chewie.
              Also all of their aliens are just a different variation of shit skinned bug eyes

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The lack of creative design with absolutely everything in the sequel trilogy is sickening.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And still no motherfricking Bothans anywhere.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yidney hated Star Wars so much they didn't even put a single OT or PT alien into the new movies, save for Chewie.
                They literally hired OT actors Mike Quinn and Tim Rose to reprise Nein Numb & Admiral Ackbar. If you want to make claims, at least get your basic facts correct you fricking dimwit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh right, I actually forgot they killed Ackbar off screen in that movie.

                I any case the point still stands, not a single OT or PT alien race that isn't named character

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >moves goalposts
                It's so tiresome interacting with you zoomers who never think before you post.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If Yidney didn't hate the OG and PT they would have used more aliens, out of the countless examples, than 3 named Black folk that barely do anything in the trilogy or even appear for long.

                They instead put their own godawful ayylmaos, each looking stupider than the last.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the toy potential of Star Wars sequels vs OT and prequels.
          Back in the day, when the Toy makers and other licensees were more transparent and open with the public, many admitted how the OT outsold the PT by a HUGE margin. The PT does have a ton of cool toy designs, but the movies never resonated with people as deeply as the OT did. And people here can herp and derp and argue all they want, but the proof was always in the sales. I'd wager that the PT stuff would outsell ST, but nobody in the industry is talking now that Disney owns SW.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't see how this could possibly be true. I was growing up when the prequels were coming out and the toys were insanely popular. The only way I can see this being the case is if things like lightsabers that weren't prequel specfic weren't counted as prequel toys or if things like star wars lego and videogames weren't counted as toys.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The OT was a mega phenomenon and the PT wasn't, even if it was still popular.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but that's just the movies, I don't think kids work that way. It's not like the fact that revenge of the sith isn't very good makes Grievous less cool. Shit if you look at all the children's IPs that have spawned from Star Wars 90% of it is prequel era.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When I was a kid I wanted toys of things that I actually liked not some random bullshit that just looked cool. Anyway if you weren't personally familiar with Star Wars and how popular it was before the prequels were released then your opinion doesn't matter because you're just making shit up.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >see movie
                >wow that guy looks cool
                >wow he has a double sided lightsaber that's heckin epic
                >see that lighsaber in a shop
                It's not that deep Black person

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is how stupid executives think children think and not how children actually think. I was 10 when the Phantom Menace was released and I never cared about Darth Maul or wanting a Darth Maul toy. I instinctively knew it was kind of lame and didn't care.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Dude nobody is attracted to women. I'm a flaming homosexual and I see a wiener and drool so that must mean everyone is just like me!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Phantom Menace is a bad movie and I knew it even then, even if I couldn't articulate why. It didn't prove any strong interest or feelings in me like the OT did. Watching Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith were just perfunctory exercises that similarly produced nothing. I think the only time I genuinely enjoyed Star Wars during that period was when Knights of the Old Republic was released. I got it on Xbox and beat it over and over with different classes etc.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not sure what this blogpost has to with anything but

                >Dude nobody is attracted to women. I'm a flaming homosexual and I see a wiener and drool so that must mean everyone is just like me!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Something simply "looking cool" is not enough. Does Darth Maul "look cool"? Sure, I guess. Does that mean I care? Does that mean when I was a kid I wanted a toy of him? No. You're just dumb or have poor taste.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do I really have to tap the sign again

                >Dude nobody is attracted to women. I'm a flaming homosexual and I see a wiener and drool so that must mean everyone is just like me!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kids want to play as the hero, not the villain who dies.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also OT toys were sold continually after the films were released because the OT never stopped being popular. I remember having plenty of OT toys in the early-mid 90s.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I don't see how this could possibly be true.
              I know you can't. Most of you can't see jack shit past your own little bubble. And of course you want to argue against industry insiders who see the sales numbers.
              >the toys were insanely popular.
              Okay sport, nobody said they weren't. You kids don't even understand basic concepts of debate, you just run off your "feels". But the data always showed that Darth Vader outsold Darth Maul, Luke Skywalker outsold Anakin Skywalker, etc, etc, etc. Yes, toys are still popular with children, and nobody claimed you little tykes weren't playing with PT toys and Jar Jar Binks.

              Toy sales were less relevant around Y2K than they were in the 70s and 80s. And they're even more irrelevant now. You're comparing apples with oranges with bananas.
              The prequels outperformed the OT in video game sales, and the sequels outperform the prequels. The reasons for that are as obvious as the drop in toy sales.

              >You're comparing apples with oranges with bananas.
              No, you fricking moron, I'm literally NOT. This is NOT about 70s/80s vs Y2k. TO THIS VERY FRICKING DAY Hasbro makes toys from OT/PT and ST. DURING 1999-2005 and the Prequel era, EVERY YEAR there were OT toys on the shelves at the same time as PT toys. THOSE were the sales data I'm talking about you fricking dimwit. When you put OT & PT toys out AT THE SAME TIME, OT consistently outsold PT by a huge margin. I'm NOT talking about the fricking 80s, so shut the frick up with your childish cope.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >TO THIS VERY FRICKING DAY Hasbro makes toys from OT/PT and ST.
                Yes. And they don't sell anymore.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >LOOK AT ME I'M SO FRICKING EDGY!!!!!!!!
                Yes child, that's why retailers keep ordering them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >retailers keep ordering them
                They do not, actually.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes Child
                Is that you, Patrick S Tomlinson's B personality?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Toy sales were less relevant around Y2K than they were in the 70s and 80s. And they're even more irrelevant now. You're comparing apples with oranges with bananas.
            The prequels outperformed the OT in video game sales, and the sequels outperform the prequels. The reasons for that are as obvious as the drop in toy sales.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Hasbro LOST 300 million during 2017 for Star Wars brands
        Yeah, we've all seen the pics of the rows of unsold toys marked down to pennies on the dollar. It's sickening.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Rogue One toys were being sold for, this is not hyperbole, 3 cents.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rogue One ACTION FIGURES maybe. But the real stars of the show were the ships, and that shit always sells great

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cope, the garbage ships sold no better

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          For TLJ, the SHIPS went on massive deep clearance. TLJ had the feminist characters screeching at Poe for flying his X-Wing and saving their ass when they ordered him NOT to, and kids did not want to repeat that play pattern, and Poe's X-Wing was massively clearanced. TLJ did SO bad that the next film, TROS, had the LOWEST toy rollout of any SW film ever!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There are still SW Resistance toys in my local supermarket toy section in rural Finland.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i still have my rey mint in box, how about you?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You mean THIS MERCH? UNSOLD?

        LOL

        Unironically, so many of these toys will be trashed one day they'll be enormous prized collectors items for the people who preserved the off copy.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, like having a mint copy of the Atari E.T. game.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have a non mint but in box, maybe unopened, but warped box toy of the glow in the dark jedi ghosts from Return of the Jedi, and it's Proust instead of Christensen as Anakin Skywalker.
            I figure that will be worth something eventually since they changed the actor.
            It's from the special edition era, and Lucas retconned the special edition, but originally it was before the prequels.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You never see Prowse's face on screen. That's Sebastian Shaw

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have an action figure of these three

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, like having a mint copy of the Atari E.T. game.

          Actually no tbh. Using your example of E.T for the 2600, it's a toy that was based off of a beloved movie that still holds up today. Even if its a piece of shit, people want it because it came out the year the movie did, because its the first of the E.T video games, and because its infamous reputation has even made it a collector's item for gamers who could care less about the movie.
          Star Wars Sequel toys are the opposite. They're good toys based on bad movies that don't hold up. There is no passion or love for those films so the collector's market isn't interested.
          >But the zoomies and alphies that grew up with the movie will want them
          Zoomers and gen alpha don't care about Star Wars, and they don't even care about toys that aren't video games. I was sitting in a public space and caught a zoomer conversation that went like this
          >Is that Star Wars?
          >Yeah I think so
          >Yeah, I actually watched Star Wars before it got popular and had a bunch of memes about ot but its too mainstream now (They said this entirely unironically)
          >Yeah, I just don't get the appeal honestly

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I can confirm Zoomers think Kylo Ren is a b***h

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He at least had enough sense to die after Rey mushed her lips against his

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I watched Star Wars before it got popular
            >Zoomer
            They had zoomers in the early 70s?!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >There is no passion or love for those films so the collector's market isn't interested.
            This in a nutshell. Rarity/scarcity means jack shit if nobody cares about it. There are any number of rare/scarce toys that just collect dust at flea markets with high price tags on them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I would play ET for 100 hours before I ever play shit from modern AAA.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, they won't. Only things that were once popular do that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You mean THIS MERCH? UNSOLD?

      LOL

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No wonder why those toys didn't sell, it doesn't have anything iconic from star wars on his design, it just looks like a random black guy.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >looks like a random black guy
          They should have made a toy of Finn jumping up and down on a burning landspeeder. That would probably have sold better.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I remember being here in 2015/2016, there were so many coping unpaid shill losers seeing these images (some I took myself) of unsold Finn merchandise, they would claim I just walked into a store with a fresh restock and took all of the other figures off the shelf, left the finn figures on to stage the photo. I took a video of me walking into a store from my car, walking to the toy section and they still called it fake. Can't reason with these freaks.

        I'm sure if I would have posted an entire youtube video of me driving from my home to the store, they would have said I had a friend take it off the shelf before I got there.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kids don't buy toys anymore that shit is rotting on shelves

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We owned the chuds fellow Bidenbros, their favorite sci-fi franchise is ruined.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >rising stars Daisy Ridley and John Boyega
    >nowhere to be seen today

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they're somewhere to be seen right after the words "literally" and "who?"

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what is KK doing these days? She'll never ne fired that much is clear but she can't pretend like everything did not go to shit under her? She's the one calling the shots and everything has gone to shit. Star Wars, Indy, and Willow they're all dead brands.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the whole of hollywood has closed ranks around the fact their business model is over. mass appeal doesn't work if the masses have so many options for entertainment. the idea that entertainment was recession proof was seated in the fact people had no control over how they were entertained. the box office hits were the ones that came out when children had the most disposable income/time. the broadcast shows that became "iconic" were the ones with the widest appeal aired in the prime timeslots.

      the reason no one gets fired for "failure" is because they'd need to admit they are failing, which will have a cascading effect and expose the fact hollywood has been nothing but a series of shell companies cycling money around since social media started going mainstream.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I avoid western media and entertainment. Japan just makes superior culture.
        Note for the subversive westerners, no this does not mean I will pay attention to your products that you market as "anime" and skinwalk with a faux-Japanese aesthetic. I choose Japanese things because they are Japanese and not western, not simply because of the style. You can mimic a style but you can't mimic a soul.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >"Nooo anime makes you a troony! Watch actual troons in Hollywoke shit. That's based and aryanpilled."

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Tranime

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hollywood is coming for Anime next. Dan Harmon is writing the One Punch Man movie and soon all that you love will be turned into Hollywood slop.
          Netflix's shows were only the beginning

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just as long as they keep failing to make Ninja Scroll and Akira.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I've often thought about how you make a good Star Wars thing and I think one of the best ways would be to literally just rip off Ninja Scroll but with a Jedi and Jedi hunters.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              did they really try to make live Ninja Scroll? Half the allure is the gratuitous rape and sex scenes

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You think they're afraid of putting out a botched film? At this point Akira is high on the list for adaptations

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Japan just makes superior culture.
          >Copies Western culture

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            *improves western culture

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >"Superior culture"
          >Whole culture where promiscuity and degeneracy is socially accepted and encouraged.
          Why are animetards like this?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >promiscuity and degeneracy is socially accepted
            As it should be, christcuck.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Thinks a woman will ever take accountability for her actions....

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    werent all 3 of the sequel trilogy films trillion dollar successes per Disney

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >have a stupid thread
    >have it again

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >they only made 1.2b

    holy shit

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wait but a month ago this news story broke
    https://www.cbr.com/disneys-huge-star-wars-profits-revealed/
    >New records show that Disney have earned a staggering $8 billion in profit on Star Wars since they purchased the franchise back in 2012.

    so whos telling the truth?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Since OP's article very transparently omits a huge portion of related revenue, they could both be true.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >so whos telling the truth?
      It's hard to say. Read the rest of the article, it doesn't get any easier to parse. It says $8 billion profit at the start, then says made $12 billion in the very next paragraph then talks about tripling profits? It's hard to make heads or tails of what they're trying to convey and if there's any underlying truth to the claims at all.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Out of CBR and Forbes, at least one pretends to have credibility

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you read the fine print of Disney's reporting and you find Forbes is telling the truth

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think I figured out what the frick they're talking about.
      The 9th slide of that stockholder meeting, claims that they got a 2.9x return on investment for star wars .
      In the fine print that clarifies that it only includes the movies. At minimum it's not including merchandise failing and sw parks failing.
      It also doesn't clarify what investment, ie if it includes the initial investment of 4 billion or just the budget of the movies
      No where else does their source talk about star wars, or atleast not anywhere I can find

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Investment reflects film production costs and print & advertising associated with the theatrical release of the titles
        I don't think they're including the 4 billies

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This slide show is fricking terrible, all that dense small text. I could show these executives how to put a proper fricking deck together.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >spent 4 billion on the IP
      >spend 400 million making and marketing each film times five films (including Rouge One and Solo)
      >spent 2 billion on a theme park no one went to
      >spent 500 million on Disney Plus shows that no one watched
      They’ve spent 8 billion dollars on a series that’s made them 4.5 billion before the theater cut

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >profit
      Disney does not reveal if it's profit or revenue.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So they tried doing it their stupid shitty unplanned way, again, and it didn't work. So what is there to lose in simply doing it the right way?

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All they had to do was follow the Heir To the Empire books and they would have made ten billion dollars. But no, they wanted new characters they would have to pay Timothy Zahn for and we ended up with a stale rehash and the absolute buttfricking of one of the most beloved IPs of all time. They got greedy, they wanted new characters for merchandising. Fricking morons.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >wouldn't have to pay for*

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They would have fricking ruined it. Killing the EU on the reboot was the best thing they ever could have done for it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much yeah lol. I remember being so pissed about this years and years back but Star Wars is never going to be good again so I don’t care anymore.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they wanted new characters for merchandising
      Probably should've made some. The only memorable characters from the Nu Wars are memorable for the wrong reasons.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even just the new ship designs are hot garbage.
        Both the superwing destroyer and the Pizza looking bucket of bolts are memorable for the wrong reasons as well

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Even just the new ship designs are hot garbage.
          Agreed. It's terrible all round. The design work is miserable.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They did this because of they used too much of Jeorge's characters they need to pay him even more residuals. That's why they had JJ make small tweaks to the designs as his company was also in on it.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is before you also take into account the 2 billy they lost on that fricking hotel, kek.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shouldn't have invested in the larp hotel.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does this account for SW merchandising and licensing?

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did Disney shills lie to me for years about this?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I miss the good old days when shills had integrity.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shills have gotten sloppy over the years. Disney is losing followers.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bet they were 90% of the way to paying it off with Solo, but have lost an additional $2 billion since then.
    These shitty woke half-assed Disney+ shows apparently have per episode budgets higher than any shows in history.
    And they still come off as low-budget.

    Some sort of money laundering or funny money is going on.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They would've made their money back if they didn't invest billions on shitty theme parks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You know they mostly do that shit for huge tax breaks or grants as it drives tourism

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Disney makes twice as much from their parks as they do their movies and shows. The movies and shows produce the IP that they then use for attractions in the park and merchandise. Even if they got 100% of the profits from a movie ticket, Disney would only make 20 bucks from someone. Meanwhile a one day ticket to Magic Kingdom is $130. A single Mickey Mouse shirt for a three year old that'll he'll stain and/or outgrow and have to be replaced in six months is $20. It's a very valuable system, but it requires a non-moron with mid term (not even long term) vision to run it. You need to cultivate the IP to make sure people keep giving you money for the actual part of your business that makes money. If you're short sighted and say "the IP is costing us too much and doesn't yield enough profit" or "let's use the IP to push a divisive and polarizing ideology" then you end up robbing yourself of the fuel you need to run your money engine.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All their Star Wars theme parks flopped though

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that's just box office profits
    everyone knows that merchandise sales are where the real money is made

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only thing that sold well for Disney's SW was Baby Yoda. Outside of Kylo toy everything else was a waste

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Except Star Wars is not some timed limited acquisition. They will keep pushing stuff out and will make it back eventually. Outside of Solo, all the Star Wars films have made profit. That's the whole point. If they had to make it back within 10 years, fine, but the IP is forever essentially. Lots of ways to make money. As for people going
    >well that merch didn't sell haha
    You realise it didn't sell AFTER the store had already paid for the amount of shit it bought from Disney, right? So if a store bought 1000 boxes of fricking Poe or whatever the characters names are, then Disney has got the money because it will sell a box for $50 each. If the store then cannot sell a box for $75 each and ends up having to sell it for $5 each then Disney doesn't care - they already got the money. Stores selling it for cheap or throwing it away doesn't impact Disney, it impacts the store. So this 'lol toys r rus killed by star wars' isn't relevant, they died because they paid a lot of money for stock people didn't end up wanting. Disney got theirs.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You realise it didn't sell AFTER the store had already paid for the amount of shit it bought from Disney, right? So if a store bought 1000 boxes of fricking Poe or whatever the characters names are, then Disney has got the money because it will sell a box for $50 each. If the store then cannot sell a box for $75 each and ends up having to sell it for $5 each then Disney doesn't care - they already got the money. Stores selling it for cheap or throwing it away doesn't impact Disney, it impacts the store. So this 'lol toys r rus killed by star wars' isn't relevant, they died because they paid a lot of money for stock people didn't end up wanting. Disney got theirs.
      Retailers have limited inventory in-store or at their distribution warehouses. When an item is a hot seller, the manufacturer keeps making more for the retailers to replenish stock. But if an item doesn't sell, then yes the retailers are stuck with the inventory they have, but they are also not buying more inventory either, which costs the manufacturers money.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not limited
      They could have done *nothing* with 4billion except chuck it in a generic tracker investment package and have made almost an additional 4billion by now instead of a ~2billion loss. And that never stops being true barring some catastrophic global financial collapse, they could always have made more by not buying Lucasfilm than by buying it and doing what they've done. There's no rational way to argue it was a good investment or that they've successfully managed the IP. And I love that the narrative has shifted from "they'll make it back with one movie, chuds" to "pff they've probably already made it back in merch alone, chuds" to "well they'll make it back someday, someway, somehow so you're still wrong, chuds" - at least you homosexuals are beginning to acknowledge some reality, that's progress I guess.
      >after the store
      You realise that stores - unlike Disney - are generally pretty tightly run businesses, right? So if a store bought a shit-ton of what was supposed to be the biggest hottest-selling IP in the world and Disney have tanked the value of that IP so hard that they couldn't sell any of it, they're not just going to shrug their shoulders and put in another gigantic order next time, right? Sequel era toys were produced and bought by retailers on the basis of contracts signed pre-TFA by companies expecting to make a fortune on one of the most renowned toy IPs of all time, and the deal prolapsed like a rhino with intense diarrhea. Disney couldn't even get anyone to make Mandalorian merch in any kind of quantity until well into the middle of Season 1 after it had already picked up a bunch of consoomer fans demanding baby yoda plushies because toymakers had been so badly burned by Sequel merch. Even now, compare any Star Wars IP from the Disney era with OT and Prequel merch *even today* let alone at their peak around the release of those films and it's not even playing the same sport nevermind the same league.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If the store then cannot sell a box for $75 each and ends up having to sell it for $5 each then Disney doesn't care - they already got the money
      But they don't get money when nobody cares about a dead DEI franchise, mate.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Disney doesn't care - they already got the money. Stores selling it for cheap or throwing it away doesn't impact Disney
      moron TAKE! The FAILURE at retail meant that every subsequent film got LESS merchandise at retail you fricking midwit! TFA merchandise pegwarmed SO HARD that it was the LAST TIME SW ever got a full aisle of toys anywhere! And TLJ had a much more limited rollout of merch compared to TFA, and IT bombed SO fricking hard, and Solo bombed SO fricking hard, that TROS had the absolute lowest merchandising rollout in SW history! TROS didn't even get a full wave of dedicated TROS figures, they still mixed in OT figures to help them sell!

      So YES, when RETAILERS are buying less and less merchandise with every film put out, it 100% affects Disney you absolute goddamn moron!

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When the frick has disney anything appealed to men?

    No, seriously, they bought shit that would appeal to boys and it's slowly become the same kiddie disney bullshit disney fricking is.

    Disney might drive your culture but thats because you didn't have one to begin with you frickin simpleton. I hear there are new buzzwords to get mad at coming next week.

    You frickers really b***hing about DISNEY products? Shut the frick up. GROW the frick up.
    Disney kids have been naive little shits since the frickin 80s.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Preach. They don't think it be like it is but it do.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And they still bought fox hahahahahaahhahahahahaha

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They spent 4 billion. They've made more than 8 billion. This entire thread is fake news.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They spent 4 billion.
      They spend $4 billion ($5.4 billion with inflation) just acquiring the franchise. They spent billions more making the films, tv series, theme park additions and hotel. There's a reason their report to investors had to fudge the numbers so badly. Even with the most creative and deceptive accounting the Star Wars franchise now looks like a loser. The unadulterated numbers must be catastrophic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, they made 12 Billion. My uncle told me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They've made more than 8 billion
      let me guess, you're including yidsney pozzed total platform numbers in this because they don't release per-show viewership.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Movies don't require a budget!
      If only you dumb trannies would disappear in yoru own rotten holes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Movies box office = net profit
      >Last Jedi is a good movie
      Those two opinions go together well.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dei and bridge now are undermining the US constitution not the government but the constitution as a foreign set of rules imposed on the American people as its also international bull shit.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't see what people see in the original films. They're fine action movies but I never felt like there was much more to them than that. I don't know how people see so much lore and thematic depth in Star Wars.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How old are you out of curiosity?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        20

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wow I am so surprised! You can even say shocked!

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They probably would have if they spent less money shilling across the Internet that they were succeeding in recouping the losses.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A good chunk of their shills do it for free or in exchange for Disney merchandise.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Legitimately a waste of merch, no one is watching a movie because some stay at home mom recommended it on Facebook

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Women do. My sister watches shows and plays games not because she saw them somewhere and thought they looked interesting, but because she watches a woman vlog about her life who gets paid to throw ads into the topic every week or whatever. Dumb women consume this garbage, and internalise it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We need handmaid's tale so we can force them to stick to quilting. Literally to them it's no different from fricking with games. Their intrinsic interest and attention is the same.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This is just a pathetic solution. Handmaidens Tale is some weirdos fetish. You would literally be submitting to a woman's idea of what men want instead of just letting morons be morons to own the heckin females!

              Also if history has proven anything, handmaidens tale'ing women for hundreds of years and creating no female culture used to freedom and economic security is why we're here today.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                simp

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dumbass.
                >Surely it'll work if we keep doing it durr
                The inevitability of simps means it won't.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We don't ever have to treat women well.
                All we need is a consensus among men which unfortunately breaks down very easily due to simps like you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That consensus doesn't exist, because of simps, so it is stupid to try and control an entire gender for a doomed to fail state of being. I don't get what's hard about this for you, your obsession with b***hes is insane, you know simps ruin any attempt to have a male consensus, so you must know that you would never be able to uphold what you want to do, and the fact that the prior way of doing things failed catastrophically and led us here should also be within your knowledge. Yet for some reason you insist on bashing your head against the same wall our ancestors did, dooming us to an endless procession of gay ass gender wars and bullshit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No this is the cycle of civilization. It depends on controlling women and men tend to lock it down absolutely on women after a crisis since it's obvious who caused it.
                Then the next generation lets up.

                It's like happened 20 times since the BC's

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The cycle of civilization led to countless men dying without ever having kids, and to slimy goblin elites profiting from it all. I'm really sorry but I will never die for a fricking Hebrew, and I will not waste my life betabux deluxe'ing for someone who hates my guts but has to wear a burkha or fear death. I'm not an Arab, and I'm not an idiot, I do not want to die pointlessly and then have my descendants repeat that shit because of the logic of "muh cycles, muh this is the way it is, muh it can't be helped!". The sooner people take responsibility for their own actions the better, infantilizing adults is why all our nations are built on a foundation of sand and dogshit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bro it's not about handmaid's tale. It's about women need to have their hobbies and socialization restricted to areas as moronic as they are. Quilting and sweater knitting.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And my entire point is that you are quoting the results of these actions as justification for continuing them. It's like shooting someone in the foot and then going "see, we have to amputate both their legs now and carry them on our backs for the rest of our lives because they can't walk anymore" while they're in the healing process.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Even if women were made safe, they still are rachet wrench hypergamous.
                They can go form 82% safe, find a man who will make them 97% safe, lose him, go back to 91% safe, and feel as if this loss of safety is so bad, they kill themselves.
                They're literally broken.

                Their sense of vulnerability makes them resent men. They only like men as status providing objects. If you're the top 93% of men, and they get a taste of 95%, they will hate you for making them "unsafe".
                Women are actually broken.
                1) It's best to ignore their bullshit
                2) They and you will fail and die if you let them take over your spaces and consciousness. This means women need to quilt and not frick with male spaces.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm really sorry but I will never die for a fricking Hebrew
                Nobody's asking.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The inevitable end result to this rhetoric is "you have to go frick off and die in a shithole now!" And that current shithole is Israel, so yes, they will be asking if you get what you want.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've never been more disgusted at life or humanity until you brought this idea into my reality. Thank you for killing the tattered remains of my dignity and hope as a human being.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I remember arguing with people over Nu-Wars on Cinemaphile 10 years ago and did in fact feel like I was arguing with a middle aged woman.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Who apparently hate their sons very much and want to destroy everything they ever held dear

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          tbf middle-aged women probably have more emotional continence than nu-wars fans.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dont they make more money by making toys to manchildren and not with the actual movies?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They sank the toy lines with their dumbass movies nobody liked. Who the frick do you think is going to be proud to own a Rey or Porg toy except a minority of culture war drones and autists who only had TFA as the family "shut the frick up kid" movie?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >box office
        okay. What about streaming, dvds, merchandise, the theme park land, licensing, and the tv shows they made with the IP?

        So what happens to Iger now? They just voted to keep him but this cannot be a good look to those that voted for him to stay on the Board

        What about all these unsold Rose Tico toys?
        Was there any toy that sold well for the Disney films?

        You mean THIS MERCH? UNSOLD?

        LOL

        baby yoda and the ball droid

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Baby Yoda alone. The ball droid was a thing for 20 seconds then TLJ released and no one has ever talked about him again. You don't even know his fricking name.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            BB-L

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            BB-8? No google.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The last holocaust victim has yet to be born, and hollywood has yet to make a profitable movie.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah too bad I guess box office is the only way star wars makes money, oh well.

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Would every moron who claimed that the gross covered the cost of acquisition please stand up?
    You deserve to be laughed at, so don’t hide like a b***h now.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    we should use Cinemaphile to start a SPAC and buy the Star Wars IP back and reboot the while thing from the Old Republic forward and hire RA Salvator to oversee the meta plots

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Star wars is a franchise nobody under the age of 50 is interested in. It was a stupid buy and it was meant to fail and hopefully die

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you and i know it, and i don't know about you but I said it in the 2010s, "star wars" is just too "seventies" it can't survive in the current culture. But Disney and Cinemaphile were like "nah bro". Why are me and you the only people who get this?

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't you see it, chud?
    They really believe in the communist cause, in trans rights, equality, Bio-Leninism, global warming and LGBT+.
    They are redistributing the funds from those evil capitalist share-holder dogs to the oppressed trans-comrades.
    So i see this article as a big WIN for the communist cause.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. White genocide is inevitable. You will live just long enough to lose everything you love. Then you will die.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't they just light speed ram the death star, with a droid ship?

    Why isn't all space warfare done this way?

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >[Sad News]
    stop stealing Cinemaphile memes thanks

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Would KK still have a job if she wasn't a woman? How do you frick up this badly and still reamin?

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >disney is finished
    >for the 400th time
    getting pretty tired of your bullshit anon

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Um, that's not sad news!

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have it on good authority that kathleen kennedy is going to be fired in two weeks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what does it matter? she's already cost the house of mouse $6 billion

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I asked my ten year old son if anyone at school even likes star wars and he said it's "gay and for girls" so do what you want with that.

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that was the point, degrade everything that's beloved

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. its not about money, is about sending THE MESSAGE

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >box office doesn't make 5 billion dollars
    No shit.
    Too bad that's pretty much irrelevant, because for a big franchise like this, the licensing is where the money is - yes, that means those Star Wars fridges that everyone joked about, among other things. That shit made them the money back before episode 7 even came out.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How awful, guess there won't be any taxable profits ;o)

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Instead of catering to the audience they had, they keep trying to cater to the audience they wish they had.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >didn't create a single new character that actually sells toys to little boys, which is the important thing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >which is the important thing
      t. little boy who actually still buys toys

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, it's just a franchise that always appealed most heavily to little boys, and made a frick ton of money from toy sales to little boys, and if you buy it, you should consider your core demographic

        >they did not

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >made a frick ton of money from toy sales to little boys
          Little boys don't buy action figurines anymore, anon. People who were little boys in the last century do.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok so, given that take even you should be making toys for the manchildren not wine aunts

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No, you shouldn't be making toys (as in action figurines) for anyone. The market is pretty much dead.
              If you want to make figurines for collectors, appeal to their hobbyist autism and do what the Japanese do for anime otaku: Overpriced limited kitsch figurines that are meant to be displayed rather than played with. Not a huge market, but one that's willing to overspend.
              If you want to still appeal to masses of little boys, make low effort console games.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Seems like your take is that they shouldn't have bothered at all with new production then, just camping on the IP and selling what they could from what existed, since the secondary markets that represent the big money for Star Wars were already dying. Toy sales are still huge though

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they shouldn't have bothered at all with new production then
                Oh, Disney defintely should have. They make their money not by selling the merchandise, but by selling the license to make merchandise. But Hasbro, or whoever bought that license, really needs to get a grip of the changed business environement and change accordingly.

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kids don't even play with toys to the same degree they used to. I don't know how you can bank on that anymore. Parents just stick their kids in front a smartphone.

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This doesn't matter because they also got the merch cuts you fricking idiots. Lucas films was worth it for the Merch alone

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you chuds and forbes are moronic

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought Disney broke even with toy sales before TFA even got a trailer?

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is how it goes:
    >Hollywood creates the hype for kinos (yes, not movies, but kinos)
    >an entire generation enjoy the best Hollywood can offer
    >subsequently Hollywood unloads the dogshit
    >all generations still alive feel the intellectual misery
    >depression and anxiety is installed in the mind of the masses
    >"Hollywood" isn't affected, because this is their original agenda
    >Hollywood "loses" money (not really, but the dogshit flicks don't return profit - the money comes from other places)
    >mission accomplished. the goy is on the ground, suffering

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >all according to plan, goy!
      You severely overestimate the israelites.

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Disney
    *glasses on*
    israeli money laundering and propaganda.

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Darth Maul isn't a cool character

    Strange hill to die on. Probably 2nd place right after Darth Vader of all of Lucas' creations. Why does the word "cool" matter here? Boys aged 5-16 are obsessed with coolness, ergo coolness drives sales and hype for them.

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All this fricking Blackrock ESG humiliation ritual trannies are spouting their Demonkkkrat talking points as if we didn't know what they're doing. Disney is publishing troony grooming Communist propaganda to push their cultural Marxist agenda. The only place you can be honest about what they're doing is Cinemaphile.

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hilarious.

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