Bob Iger, a israelite, had a goal to ruin one of Christian US's biggest cultural exports - Walt Disney's company. He has succeeded well beyond Soros & Fink's expectations. The rest of the major studios were all founded by israelites and are still run & owned by them. With Disney, that wasn't always the case, until Roy E Disney handed in the reins.
This is untrue. If Madea movies don't make 1 billion dollars they are financial failures. This is why Tyler Perry has 10 new shows each month. He's in massive debt.
Disney does their animation in house and that doesn't come cheap.
Animation studios like Illumination can keep lower budgets because they outsource to France.
>Disney kind of forgot to advertise two major releases in a row despite paying double of their budgets to do so, whoops!
Sooner or later the shills will have to find some new excuses.
Ive now seen more advertisements for a movie about Ducks from Illumination in the past week than I have seen for the Marvels or Wish in the last 3 months.
I caught the Marvels trailer at least once a day, plus all the ads in the train station and around the city. Wish for now I've only seen a tie-in marketing on some cookies, but that's because it releases later in December here.
So Is it really an origin story for "wish upon star" whenever people talked about this movie during production someone would always mention that, and i just don't get, what does "origin story of wish upon a star" means?
Basically it's a meta thing where they wrote their own fairy tale origin story of the Disney company filmography, the movie ends with a bunch of references to other Disney films as though they are all part of an interconnected universe starting with the events and characters of this film. The "wishing star" thing is because "when you wish upon a star" is the company theme song.
It doesn't even make as much sense as that, a bunch of the characters are just veiled versions of other Disney characters, but it's never even suggested how they end up the ones in the real movies. Like Asha becomes the fairy godmother from Cinderella, ok, so when and why does she turn into an old white lady? Her buddies are the seven dwarfs, but they're not dwarfs and they're different races and genders. If you wish upon this same sentient anthropomorphic star, then why does the blue fairy show up instead of him? The king becoming the magic mirror is the most and really only believable part
[...] >some Thai woman diversity hire's vanity project is supposed to be the origin story for the most iconic Disney theme
The origin of the song was Pinocchio. This is just disgraceful.
I’m so glad I don’t give a shit about classic Disney and I’m thankful Ghibli is going to die with Miyazaki so I never have to see it’s legacy get raped like this
Basically it's a meta thing where they wrote their own fairy tale origin story of the Disney company filmography, the movie ends with a bunch of references to other Disney films as though they are all part of an interconnected universe starting with the events and characters of this film. The "wishing star" thing is because "when you wish upon a star" is the company theme song.
>some Thai woman diversity hire's vanity project is supposed to be the origin story for the most iconic Disney theme
The origin of the song was Pinocchio. This is just disgraceful.
>Magnifico turns in to the Magic Mirror from snow white >Asha turns in to the fairy godmother from Cinderella >The goat founds zootopia >The grandpa, at 100 years old, learns how to play "When you wish upon a star" on the guitar >Arendelle exists in this universe >Neverland exists in this universe >Peter Pan exists in this universe >Asha's friends were supposed to be the "new" seven not-dwarves from the live action snow white remake, before the backlash and CGI removal/rework of them.
Yes. Wish was supposed to tie in a bunch of universes together, and was also tooled in to an attack against walt, which fell flat. Magnifico was supposed to represent Walt, hoarding all the wishes (film ideas), only granting a select few (greenlighting them for production), which kept the kingdom happy (the audience), except Asha (Iger & co) think that those wishes (film ideas) are the best part of people and that all of them should have a chance at being granted if the person works hard enough (director self insert message after getting constantly rejected for being shit).
Except Asha does the exact same shit as king Magnifico does, the only difference being that Asha doesn't make people forget their wishes, no matter how awful/hurtful/harmful/stupid they are, and lets those whose wishes didn't get granted fester in their negative emotions.
Wish is also a victim of nu-disney's stance on modern women. They can't be evil, and no matter what bad they may do, it's actually okay because they're a woman. King Magnifico & Queen Amaya were supposed to be an evil power couple right from the start of the movie, hoarding wishes for their own gain and at the expense of the kingdom. But then they came in and said, "Whoopsie, we can't have an evil woman, let alone a woman of color!" and rewrote the two characters without actually touching Asha's portion of the plot. In the process of making Amaya "good", they also turned Magnifico in to someone who wasn't a villain, realized that they needed him to become evil, and forced him to get cursed by an evil book. A book, mind you, that the wife carries anti-evil magic oil that prevents you from getting cursed for, on her belt. Which she never mentions to her husband. Why? Because she powergrabs because she was actually evil the entire time despite being rewritten to be good. "But it's not evil when a woman does it!"
>Be wife >have anti-evil magic oil you carry with you everywhere >don't tell husband about oil >let him get cursed >use oil yourself to see if curses can't be broken >evil book of evil and lies says that no, curses can't be broken, he's fricked forever >watch as Asha breaks all the curses >see your husband is no longer cursed >watch him get imprisoned in the staff as one final "frick you" from the book >know full well that Asha could just wish for him to no longer be in the staff shard >instead, pick up the shard, look at him scared and confused, asking to be set free >"You get what you deserve. Hang this in the dungeons!" >declares self as new ruler of the kingdom
>those wishes (film ideas) are the best part of people and that all of them should have a chance at being granted
So they're prepping us for their upcoming on-demand personalized AI-driven slop generator service, available as subscription only $99,99/month. Soon on Disney Doubleplus Good!
More like, "We're fricking you over but at least this way you can still wish that your project gets made, instead of just being forced to work on other, actual good projects."
Oh frick them. Most of Disney's capable animators, the ones who really drove and loved the projects got drafted in WWII and he never recovered from it. What happened was a tragedy where a man tries to put together a future of light for everyone and it's torn away. This revisionist bullshit- this constant attempt to drive home that these fricks are relevant on TALENT concerns is an utter lie. If these soulless, noisy, hateful, morally bankrupt automata could create, they'd also be able to meme.
>Asha's friends were supposed to be the "new" seven not-dwarves from the live action snow white remake, before the backlash and CGI removal/rework of them.
No way. I don't believe it.
Yeah it's almost like they're not the biggest bombs of all time. Except that one you wanted to bomb the most. THAT was the real biggest bomb of all time.
Well, if you look at the numbers as far up as 2022, 3 of the top 100 biggest money losers ever (Strange World, Turning Red, Lightyear) are all Disney and all came out the same year. And two of those (Strange World, Turning Red) are in the overall top 15 biggest losers ever ($197m and $167m, respectively)
Just fyi, if you don't worry about which year, 9 of the top 20 biggest bombs of all time are from Disney, including the top 3 biggest all time (John Carter, Lone Ranger, 13th Warrior)
No, these movies really are bombing that badly. Covid delays greatly inflated the budgets of movies currently coming out while audience behaviors have shifted with box office revenue down across the board.
This year has been full of huge blockbuster flops anon. People aren't going to the theater for films unless they've got hype or great word of mouth. If these films weren't all reliant on ludicrous budgets and marketing campaigns they wouldn't be such huge bombs.
Except they all unironically are. Post-Covid has been a massacre for the film industry across the board. Vidya is King Money now, and the path forward for blockbuster movies is making slightly lower-budget standalone event movies like Barbie and Oppenheimer.
>Post says that Vidya gaymes are are king now >"Nuh-uh, you are wrong because this vidya game adaptation performed well when everything else is flopping!"
You are not the smartest, are you?
None of them are the biggest bombs of all time. It just grabs attention. If you ignore the covid releases then Strange World is a much bigger bomb than anything this year
It's crazy that Strange World was a Disney+ movie that got pushed to theaters because of the activist employees that said putting an LGBT movie away from the big screens is "not a good look".
We knew it was gonna be shit, but at least they coulda just hid behind the "new thing most popular on Disney+" metric to pretend it did well. Putting it in theaters just showed everyone that it was gonna bomb, objectively.
Turning Red and Strange World are both in the top 15 biggest bombs of all time. We just have to wait for the final numbers for 2023. The Marvels is on track to lose almost exactly as much as Strange World (~$200m), which would put it in the top 10 biggest money losers ever
>None of them are the biggest bombs of all time.
Yeah actually they are:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs
So total loss right now on The Marvels is $237 million
Total loss right now on Wish is $275 million
Both could be the biggest bomb in history.
Why don't women go to see the movies made for them?
>None of them are the biggest bombs of all time.
Yeah actually they are:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs
So total loss right now on The Marvels is $237 million
Total loss right now on Wish is $275 million
I heard they drew that stupid star to look like mickey and were gonna change their mascot to be the star. Lol they forgot that this is an animation with a black princess
It will do better than Strange World, but yeah it might be one of the biggest bombs in history.
Disney has 2 TOP 10 bombs going on right now:
Wish
The Marvels
>No Deadpool 3 is coming out and will make 800+ million easy because it will be another memberberries movie
Deadpool 2 made $785m and it was horrible. This will make $500-$600m if it's decent, worse than that if it's horrible.
Who cares about Hugh Jackman we have already seen him in multiple movies that all bombed
>Nostalgia sells well see Spiderman No Way Home
We just saw Hugh Jackman in Logan 6? years ago, it's not that long to be "nostalgia".
Watch for pre-sales, it's not going to do well because Deadpool2 wasn't that great.
>We just saw
Yea 6 years ago and the first two movies were non stop joking and hyping having him show up in one of these movies and it's not just Logan it's most of the old X-Men and some other Fox heroes.
It's amusing but at the same time I don't understand the plebs. Enough of them mindlessly trotted out to see the Black mermaid that it still made half a billion despite no one really liking it that much. Now like six months later the new Disneyshit's going to make 1/10th that much despite basically being made with the exact same mentality.
I'm supposed to believe 90% of the people who just obediently consoomed everything Disney for years suddenly realized it was crap and all gave up at once? Sure, we've all decided it's not for us anymore but we've felt that way for years now. Suddenly everyone else feels the same overnight? I don't like sudden tidal shifts in pop culture even if it somewhat aligns with my own personal views, the hivemind thing creeps me out
Little Mermaid is pre-existing character. This flopping just means that from now they will do remakes of every single movie from the past with a black main character.
>I'm supposed to believe 90% of the people who just obediently consoomed everything Disney for years suddenly realized it was crap and all gave up at once?
Even the most voracious of slop consumers have an upper limit of fatigue. We have surpassed that threshold.
>1/10th that much despite basically being made with the exact same mentality.
People like and are familiar with The Little Mermaid. Nobody knows or cares what this dumb story is
I think that the box office numbers of LA TLM don't accurately assess its true impact.
Every one of these shit pandering movies incurs a cost on Disney's once pristine reputation.
Most people who would go and see a Disney movie before 2010 didn't need to know anything about it except that Disney made it.
Those days are gone.
Soul, Onwards, Encanto, Raya, Going Red, Lightyear, Wish, Luca, Strange World.
All movies with themes of diversity, gender identity and lgbtq appreciation.
Yes, they all lost money, but more than that, they each dealt a blow to disney's image.
Even the new Snow White movie that hasn't even been released yet has done enormous reputation damage to the studio
So LA TLM still made some money but I think it was a pyrrhic victory.
22 is supposed to be asexual or genderfluid
Joe is coded gay
yeah, I didn't get that from the movie either but gays were pretty excited about it and its definitely fits disney's track record
Can you fricking read you fricking moron
Nta but I didn't get any of that shit from Soul. Sounds like lib fanfiction.
Soul isn't a gay movie, it's a Black person movie
God, autists are stupid
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I didn't really care about the fact the protagonist was a Black person. It's not like he was in a relationship with a white woman or seethed about white people or something.
22 is supposed to be asexual or genderfluid
Joe is coded gay
yeah, I didn't get that from the movie either but gays were pretty excited about it and its definitely fits disney's track record
>Soul >themes of diversity, gender identity and lgbtq appreciation
The frick are you talking about homosexual
nta but I think he meant "or"
but also
22 is supposed to be asexual or genderfluid
Joe is coded gay
yeah, I didn't get that from the movie either but gays were pretty excited about it and its definitely fits disney's track record
[...]
I’m so glad I don’t give a shit about classic Disney and I’m thankful Ghibli is going to die with Miyazaki so I never have to see it’s legacy get raped like this
this tbh
hayao let goro direct a few movies to show everyone the difference from the original article.
after Miyazaki senior dies, nothing will be considered canon.
Also, japs don't seem to have the stomach to destroy IPs for profit. Not enough israelites over there to strip mine the culture
>I'm supposed to believe 90% of the people who just obediently consoomed everything Disney for years suddenly realized it was crap and all gave up at once?
I know! And there was no gradual drop off! >Beauty and the Beast (2017): 1.2 billion box office >Little Mermaid (2023): $500 million box office
It was so sudden!
Half a billion is way more than that piece of shit movie deserved but keep in mind it would have been way more had they not shitted up both the movie and the movies preceding it.
I don't really understand why the box office this year was so horrendous in general. It wasn't great after the pandemic either but 2022 still had some big billion dollar hits. This year there's only 3 and almost everything else underperformed
Tickets are 15 bucks a pop and people are tired of big budget boring bad writing with shit aesthetics and mediocre CGI. Horror has done extremely well this year though, and zoomies will even show up in the theater for it.
Horror always does good though because they're cheap to make. I think Hollywood as a whole needs to just downsize. No more $300 million movies. That era is over, post-pandemic it just isn't viable unless you're James Cameron
Yes horror has done well but this year in particular it has done very well. FNAF was obviously the clear winner at 300 mill on a 20-40 mill budget, but the new Insidious sequel did 190 mill on 16 mill, Saw X did over 100 mill on 13 mill, Talk to Me did almost 100 mill on a 4.5 mill budget. Many of these films are outgrossing blockbusters that cost dozens more to make. Even if Hollywood downsizes, which they need to do, there's no guarantee they'll be able to put butts in seats in other genres, especially with how bad Hollywood writing is now
Black people are easy to control and will see any movie you can convince them is a cultural event. The Little Mermaid is also a ridiculously popular brand with children for some reason. Just having blacks and gays in the film isn't enough to generate profits
>Asha tries but fails to convince her family that Magnifico is deceiving them. Distraught, she makes her own wish on a star. To her surprise, the star descends from the sky in a form of an anthropomorphic ball of light, which Asha names Star.
Good lord how lazy and/or incompetent can you fricking be to name a falling star simply "Star"?
When will financier c**ts get it through their head? I Don't Care About Movies Any More. I'm not Going TO waTCH what you make. Stop spending money on Dat. Stop making em. t. - john q Public
Good job anon, now you just need to find 500-1000 other morons with bad memories and you guys can force this meme and try to gaslight everyone else into agreeing with your false memory.
As a Sonic fan since the 90s, I can confirm that the Sonic fanbase is the most autistic fanbase of all time for whatever reason. No other fanbase even comes close.
>They made 32 million dollars and this is a bad thing for them?
Lol ofc it is. That's like the gross of a low budget movie like the Whale. They need like 10x that just to break even, probably more like 15,-20x by the time you account for marketing
>Sheeeesh, they already made $32 million?
They already spent $300 million though, so yeah they are in the hole $268 million. Even more since they only make 50% of box office
From what I remember, the rule was budget + 50% is the real cost, and gross is cut in half to make up for theater fees, so 600 to break even? Though there’s no way this movie costed 100 million for marketing. I don’t think they even ran commercials
Worse than nu-mermaid bad, except not even memeable bad, just... Bad. Lots of modern words/phrases/sayings in it, very forgettable, does that form "rap" where they try and rhyme non rhyming words.
Accounting for inflation, of the 80 or so most expensive movies ever made, only 6 were released before the year 2000. Movies are definitely much more at risk of losing money.
And holy geez in 2023 money Star Wars TFA would have had a budget of 552 million dollars.
Asha was originally supposed to be Magnifico and Amaya's daughter
Magnifico and Amaya were supposed to be a darker skinned villain power couple with a cat "At all costs" was written for them but lyrics were changed
Star was supposed to be a mute boy and Asha's love interest
The movie was originally supposed to be 2d but Iger said it was "Too expensive" to bring back the old guard of animation. (Aaron Blaise, Chris Sanders, James Baxter etc.)
Look up Disney's 10+ year old short Paperman to see what this movie "WISHES" it was (lol get it?)
>The movie was originally supposed to be 2d
Ah yeah, so we were robbed of potential kino.
I fricking miss quality 2D animation, bros.
Is this clip https://youtu.be/bFmrzhuVOts really taken from the movie?
Shit looks like a PPT animation. How did they sink a hundred million dollars to make something like that?
What was the last big budget American 2D film in theaters? Seems like it's been forever. I hope Boy and the Heron outgrosses Wish, it will be hilarious.
Anon, these people are guests, not workers. Regardless, I haven't seen anyone (including workers) wear a mask in 2.5 years where I live so either way it's fricked up and moronic. The pandemic ended in 2021.
I actually went on a Disney Cruise at the start of this year with my family
Most people were not wearing masks. I saw a few boomers and the sort wearing them, but the majority did not.
Seven years of production and rolling the cost of Meander, a program that was supposed to seamlessly blend CGI and 2D but eventually just became a pretty unremarkable cel shader who's biggest project was the Paperman short, into production.
It's the same reason Superman Returns has such a huge budget, because they rolled in the nonstarter of the Nicholas Cage Superman into it.
Well, Magnifico was the cooler character and they wanted us rooting against him.
Also, the little golden prince that could have led to funny shenanigans was changed to a ball.
So.
Haha.
They’re in theaters simultaneously after a year that also had Antman 3 and a baffling July release of Haunted Mansion. If shareholders had any sense of self-preservation they’d be demanding Iger’s head for creating the conditions where this is even possible
Pretty impressive to destroy the biggest media empire of all time in 3 or so years, quite the feat. Would be hard to do for most people even if they tried.
And on their 100th Anniversary too, wow.
Well they’re trying to destroy Disney, a pillar of western culture so why wouldn’t they celebrate it this way?
Bob Iger, a israelite, had a goal to ruin one of Christian US's biggest cultural exports - Walt Disney's company. He has succeeded well beyond Soros & Fink's expectations. The rest of the major studios were all founded by israelites and are still run & owned by them. With Disney, that wasn't always the case, until Roy E Disney handed in the reins.
I bet they wished it wasn't a flop, heh
A LIL BIT OF UKRAINE FRIED COLD BEER ON A FRIDAY NIGHT
Isn't that a pretty good turn out for a black movie? How much do Tyler perry movies pull in?
They make 4-40mil at opening weekend box office, so Wish falls in line with that
Stuff like the Madea movies are very cheap to make. They don't have to make much box office to be profitable
This is untrue. If Madea movies don't make 1 billion dollars they are financial failures. This is why Tyler Perry has 10 new shows each month. He's in massive debt.
they know their audience and how much their going to bring in and limit their budget to a reasonable amount
Before inflation Madea Goes to Jail cost less than 10% of what Wish cost.
if they had made Wish for $20M it wouldn't have been too bad
except it was $200M
So the problem is that Disney's spending too much money on black-led movies and there's no way they can back off without looking racist.
Disney does their animation in house and that doesn't come cheap.
Animation studios like Illumination can keep lower budgets because they outsource to France.
Who does DreamWorks get to make their stuff?
dreamworks recently started outsourcing as well, not sure where though.
France and other parts of EU
Tyler Perry movies make a profit anon
Why doesn't Disney just make animated tyler perry movies then if they want to pander to the black audience?
He's too right wing for them ironically enough
Haven't even heard of it
Less than 800K from almost 4,000 locations
Brutal
Forget 200, making 150 million worldwide looks like an impossible dream at this point.
I only learned about this movie like yesterday.
Is it just me or was the marketing for this severely lacking?
Hi screenrant
>Is it just me or
die reddit
>Disney kind of forgot to advertise two major releases in a row despite paying double of their budgets to do so, whoops!
Sooner or later the shills will have to find some new excuses.
Ive now seen more advertisements for a movie about Ducks from Illumination in the past week than I have seen for the Marvels or Wish in the last 3 months.
I caught the Marvels trailer at least once a day, plus all the ads in the train station and around the city. Wish for now I've only seen a tie-in marketing on some cookies, but that's because it releases later in December here.
The ad algorithm knows you're a chud.
So Is it really an origin story for "wish upon star" whenever people talked about this movie during production someone would always mention that, and i just don't get, what does "origin story of wish upon a star" means?
Basically it's a meta thing where they wrote their own fairy tale origin story of the Disney company filmography, the movie ends with a bunch of references to other Disney films as though they are all part of an interconnected universe starting with the events and characters of this film. The "wishing star" thing is because "when you wish upon a star" is the company theme song.
It doesn't even make as much sense as that, a bunch of the characters are just veiled versions of other Disney characters, but it's never even suggested how they end up the ones in the real movies. Like Asha becomes the fairy godmother from Cinderella, ok, so when and why does she turn into an old white lady? Her buddies are the seven dwarfs, but they're not dwarfs and they're different races and genders. If you wish upon this same sentient anthropomorphic star, then why does the blue fairy show up instead of him? The king becoming the magic mirror is the most and really only believable part
I’m so glad I don’t give a shit about classic Disney and I’m thankful Ghibli is going to die with Miyazaki so I never have to see it’s legacy get raped like this
So they ripped off the Pixar theory?
>some Thai woman diversity hire's vanity project is supposed to be the origin story for the most iconic Disney theme
The origin of the song was Pinocchio. This is just disgraceful.
It's Lucifer fallen star mischief in Islamic sorcerers spain
>Magnifico turns in to the Magic Mirror from snow white
>Asha turns in to the fairy godmother from Cinderella
>The goat founds zootopia
>The grandpa, at 100 years old, learns how to play "When you wish upon a star" on the guitar
>Arendelle exists in this universe
>Neverland exists in this universe
>Peter Pan exists in this universe
>Asha's friends were supposed to be the "new" seven not-dwarves from the live action snow white remake, before the backlash and CGI removal/rework of them.
So they're trying to kill their other legacy franchises by tying them all to this shit.
Yes. Wish was supposed to tie in a bunch of universes together, and was also tooled in to an attack against walt, which fell flat. Magnifico was supposed to represent Walt, hoarding all the wishes (film ideas), only granting a select few (greenlighting them for production), which kept the kingdom happy (the audience), except Asha (Iger & co) think that those wishes (film ideas) are the best part of people and that all of them should have a chance at being granted if the person works hard enough (director self insert message after getting constantly rejected for being shit).
Except Asha does the exact same shit as king Magnifico does, the only difference being that Asha doesn't make people forget their wishes, no matter how awful/hurtful/harmful/stupid they are, and lets those whose wishes didn't get granted fester in their negative emotions.
Sounds like they proved conclusively with their own movie why this movie shouldn't have been made
Wish is also a victim of nu-disney's stance on modern women. They can't be evil, and no matter what bad they may do, it's actually okay because they're a woman. King Magnifico & Queen Amaya were supposed to be an evil power couple right from the start of the movie, hoarding wishes for their own gain and at the expense of the kingdom. But then they came in and said, "Whoopsie, we can't have an evil woman, let alone a woman of color!" and rewrote the two characters without actually touching Asha's portion of the plot. In the process of making Amaya "good", they also turned Magnifico in to someone who wasn't a villain, realized that they needed him to become evil, and forced him to get cursed by an evil book. A book, mind you, that the wife carries anti-evil magic oil that prevents you from getting cursed for, on her belt. Which she never mentions to her husband. Why? Because she powergrabs because she was actually evil the entire time despite being rewritten to be good. "But it's not evil when a woman does it!"
>Be wife
>have anti-evil magic oil you carry with you everywhere
>don't tell husband about oil
>let him get cursed
>use oil yourself to see if curses can't be broken
>evil book of evil and lies says that no, curses can't be broken, he's fricked forever
>watch as Asha breaks all the curses
>see your husband is no longer cursed
>watch him get imprisoned in the staff as one final "frick you" from the book
>know full well that Asha could just wish for him to no longer be in the staff shard
>instead, pick up the shard, look at him scared and confused, asking to be set free
>"You get what you deserve. Hang this in the dungeons!"
>declares self as new ruler of the kingdom
That's funny since Disney are such litigious psychos about their IPs.
>those wishes (film ideas) are the best part of people and that all of them should have a chance at being granted
So they're prepping us for their upcoming on-demand personalized AI-driven slop generator service, available as subscription only $99,99/month. Soon on Disney Doubleplus Good!
More like, "We're fricking you over but at least this way you can still wish that your project gets made, instead of just being forced to work on other, actual good projects."
Oh frick them. Most of Disney's capable animators, the ones who really drove and loved the projects got drafted in WWII and he never recovered from it. What happened was a tragedy where a man tries to put together a future of light for everyone and it's torn away. This revisionist bullshit- this constant attempt to drive home that these fricks are relevant on TALENT concerns is an utter lie. If these soulless, noisy, hateful, morally bankrupt automata could create, they'd also be able to meme.
lmao it sounds like another multiverse thing to me. cringe.
Wow, can't get anything past Hercule Poirot here
wow, you're a pointlessly smarmy homosexual
lmao, you can tell he had to Google who Poirot was
NTA, but that was a breddy gud bant
>fresh off the boat from reddit
>Asha's friends were supposed to be the "new" seven not-dwarves from the live action snow white remake, before the backlash and CGI removal/rework of them.
No way. I don't believe it.
>[Sad news]
Crazy how many biggest bombs of all time we've had in the space of 1 year
Yeah it's almost like they're not the biggest bombs of all time. Except that one you wanted to bomb the most. THAT was the real biggest bomb of all time.
Well, if you look at the numbers as far up as 2022, 3 of the top 100 biggest money losers ever (Strange World, Turning Red, Lightyear) are all Disney and all came out the same year. And two of those (Strange World, Turning Red) are in the overall top 15 biggest losers ever ($197m and $167m, respectively)
Just fyi, if you don't worry about which year, 9 of the top 20 biggest bombs of all time are from Disney, including the top 3 biggest all time (John Carter, Lone Ranger, 13th Warrior)
>Yeah it's almost like they're not the biggest bombs of all time.
Actually they are:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs
Will the 13th warrior ever be topped and how the frick did it fail so badly?
they had an awful test-screening which made them to reshoot the whole ending again (Mctiernan claims his version was better)
Disney didnt know what to do with the movie, so they just dropped it without much marketing
>top 3
>13th Warrior
>The Lone Ranger
>John Carter
none of these are bad movies, they just prove that Disney can be really really bad with marketing
Ranger marketing was everywhere.
The 13th Warrior in particular was very good.
lone ranger and john carter are bad
No, these movies really are bombing that badly. Covid delays greatly inflated the budgets of movies currently coming out while audience behaviors have shifted with box office revenue down across the board.
This year has been full of huge blockbuster flops anon. People aren't going to the theater for films unless they've got hype or great word of mouth. If these films weren't all reliant on ludicrous budgets and marketing campaigns they wouldn't be such huge bombs.
Except they all unironically are. Post-Covid has been a massacre for the film industry across the board. Vidya is King Money now, and the path forward for blockbuster movies is making slightly lower-budget standalone event movies like Barbie and Oppenheimer.
Mario movie did gangbusters, moron, no one gives a frick about covid
>Post says that Vidya gaymes are are king now
>"Nuh-uh, you are wrong because this vidya game adaptation performed well when everything else is flopping!"
You are not the smartest, are you?
The Flash
Strange World
Wish
The Marvels
Lightyear
Blue Beetle
Elemental
None of them are the biggest bombs of all time. It just grabs attention. If you ignore the covid releases then Strange World is a much bigger bomb than anything this year
This though probably stings more than Strange World, since it's the 100th anniversary movie.
It's crazy that Strange World was a Disney+ movie that got pushed to theaters because of the activist employees that said putting an LGBT movie away from the big screens is "not a good look".
We knew it was gonna be shit, but at least they coulda just hid behind the "new thing most popular on Disney+" metric to pretend it did well. Putting it in theaters just showed everyone that it was gonna bomb, objectively.
Turning Red and Strange World are both in the top 15 biggest bombs of all time. We just have to wait for the final numbers for 2023. The Marvels is on track to lose almost exactly as much as Strange World (~$200m), which would put it in the top 10 biggest money losers ever
Turning Red is a streaming movie. It never had a domestic release.
Why don't women go to see the movies made for them?
>Why don't women go to see the movies made for them?
Barbie made a shitload of profit.
>None of them are the biggest bombs of all time.
Yeah actually they are:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs
So total loss right now on The Marvels is $237 million
Total loss right now on Wish is $275 million
Both could be the biggest bomb in history.
They'll both make the top 10. Wish is only a week old and has a lot of territories left to open in, but it'll still end up around the -200m mark.
Kind of proud of normalgays.
I heard they drew that stupid star to look like mickey and were gonna change their mascot to be the star. Lol they forgot that this is an animation with a black princess
It's went under $1 million dollars a day before the end of its first week.
It will do better than Strange World, but yeah it might be one of the biggest bombs in history.
Disney has 2 TOP 10 bombs going on right now:
Wish
The Marvels
Will Disney schadenfreude last all year long in 2024 as well? Sheesshh
No Deadpool 3 is coming out and will make 800+ million easy because it will be another memberberries movie
2nd made less than the 1st. Maybe 700m again but this is Disney.
Yea but this one will have hugh jackman and a lot of other familiar faces so it will be the Fox version of Spiderman No Way Homo
All I remember from Deadpool 2 is "remember le dubstep?"
Bet it won't. Bet it'll have trannies and Black person garbage
>No Deadpool 3 is coming out and will make 800+ million easy because it will be another memberberries movie
Deadpool 2 made $785m and it was horrible. This will make $500-$600m if it's decent, worse than that if it's horrible.
Who cares about Hugh Jackman we have already seen him in multiple movies that all bombed
>Who cares
Nostalgia sells well see Spiderman No Way Home
>Nostalgia sells well see Spiderman No Way Home
We just saw Hugh Jackman in Logan 6? years ago, it's not that long to be "nostalgia".
Watch for pre-sales, it's not going to do well because Deadpool2 wasn't that great.
>We just saw
Yea 6 years ago and the first two movies were non stop joking and hyping having him show up in one of these movies and it's not just Logan it's most of the old X-Men and some other Fox heroes.
It's amusing but at the same time I don't understand the plebs. Enough of them mindlessly trotted out to see the Black mermaid that it still made half a billion despite no one really liking it that much. Now like six months later the new Disneyshit's going to make 1/10th that much despite basically being made with the exact same mentality.
I'm supposed to believe 90% of the people who just obediently consoomed everything Disney for years suddenly realized it was crap and all gave up at once? Sure, we've all decided it's not for us anymore but we've felt that way for years now. Suddenly everyone else feels the same overnight? I don't like sudden tidal shifts in pop culture even if it somewhat aligns with my own personal views, the hivemind thing creeps me out
Little Mermaid is pre-existing character. This flopping just means that from now they will do remakes of every single movie from the past with a black main character.
>I'm supposed to believe 90% of the people who just obediently consoomed everything Disney for years suddenly realized it was crap and all gave up at once?
Even the most voracious of slop consumers have an upper limit of fatigue. We have surpassed that threshold.
>why don't people behave like /misc/said they would
Schizo moron
Rent free
>1/10th that much despite basically being made with the exact same mentality.
People like and are familiar with The Little Mermaid. Nobody knows or cares what this dumb story is
normies are trend hoppers
disney, the mcu and wokeshit in general has a stink on it bad enough now that most of them have finally checked out
I think that the box office numbers of LA TLM don't accurately assess its true impact.
Every one of these shit pandering movies incurs a cost on Disney's once pristine reputation.
Most people who would go and see a Disney movie before 2010 didn't need to know anything about it except that Disney made it.
Those days are gone.
Soul, Onwards, Encanto, Raya, Going Red, Lightyear, Wish, Luca, Strange World.
All movies with themes of diversity, gender identity and lgbtq appreciation.
Yes, they all lost money, but more than that, they each dealt a blow to disney's image.
Even the new Snow White movie that hasn't even been released yet has done enormous reputation damage to the studio
So LA TLM still made some money but I think it was a pyrrhic victory.
>Soul
>themes of diversity, gender identity and lgbtq appreciation
The frick are you talking about homosexual
Are you fricking stupid
What gender identity LGBT shit was in there?
Can you fricking read you fricking moron
Nta but I didn't get any of that shit from Soul. Sounds like lib fanfiction.
Soul isn't a gay movie, it's a Black person movie
God, autists are stupid
I didn't really care about the fact the protagonist was a Black person. It's not like he was in a relationship with a white woman or seethed about white people or something.
22 is supposed to be asexual or genderfluid
Joe is coded gay
yeah, I didn't get that from the movie either but gays were pretty excited about it and its definitely fits disney's track record
Yeah that one was actually a thinly disguised scientology movie.
nta but I think he meant "or"
but also
this tbh
hayao let goro direct a few movies to show everyone the difference from the original article.
after Miyazaki senior dies, nothing will be considered canon.
Also, japs don't seem to have the stomach to destroy IPs for profit. Not enough israelites over there to strip mine the culture
>I'm supposed to believe 90% of the people who just obediently consoomed everything Disney for years suddenly realized it was crap and all gave up at once?
I know! And there was no gradual drop off!
>Beauty and the Beast (2017): 1.2 billion box office
>Little Mermaid (2023): $500 million box office
It was so sudden!
Wish is an original animated movie and those have been struggling post pandemic
people dont want new IP's. Unironically.
They want familiar and safe.
Half a billion is way more than that piece of shit movie deserved but keep in mind it would have been way more had they not shitted up both the movie and the movies preceding it.
I'm under the impression that the viewership drop happens after the offending movie. NuWars, etc.
the garbage live-action remakes all made a ton of money at the box office due to nostalgia and nothing else
you dont understand the dynamics of it so dont bother. I bet you barely passed algebra
>Anon realizes 90% of people are sheep who will eventually get bored of the old fad and follow the new one
I don't really understand why the box office this year was so horrendous in general. It wasn't great after the pandemic either but 2022 still had some big billion dollar hits. This year there's only 3 and almost everything else underperformed
Tickets are 15 bucks a pop and people are tired of big budget boring bad writing with shit aesthetics and mediocre CGI. Horror has done extremely well this year though, and zoomies will even show up in the theater for it.
Horror always does good though because they're cheap to make. I think Hollywood as a whole needs to just downsize. No more $300 million movies. That era is over, post-pandemic it just isn't viable unless you're James Cameron
Yes horror has done well but this year in particular it has done very well. FNAF was obviously the clear winner at 300 mill on a 20-40 mill budget, but the new Insidious sequel did 190 mill on 16 mill, Saw X did over 100 mill on 13 mill, Talk to Me did almost 100 mill on a 4.5 mill budget. Many of these films are outgrossing blockbusters that cost dozens more to make. Even if Hollywood downsizes, which they need to do, there's no guarantee they'll be able to put butts in seats in other genres, especially with how bad Hollywood writing is now
Black people are easy to control and will see any movie you can convince them is a cultural event. The Little Mermaid is also a ridiculously popular brand with children for some reason. Just having blacks and gays in the film isn't enough to generate profits
Remember when everyone just called it and said that The Flash was going to be the biggest bomb of 2023 and nothing will top it? Good times.
>Asha tries but fails to convince her family that Magnifico is deceiving them. Distraught, she makes her own wish on a star. To her surprise, the star descends from the sky in a form of an anthropomorphic ball of light, which Asha names Star.
Good lord how lazy and/or incompetent can you fricking be to name a falling star simply "Star"?
the [sad news] bit make me laugh
When will financier c**ts get it through their head? I Don't Care About Movies Any More. I'm not Going TO waTCH what you make. Stop spending money on Dat. Stop making em. t. - john q Public
[Jubilant News] Wish is the highest grossing film featuring an overweight astronomical object with a face!
you should have thought about this joke for one more second
There's a real chance disney's new creatives grew up with mario galaxy.
[Worrying News] Zoomer expects research and citations before submitting jokes. Troubling trend?
And Lumalee was hilariously unhinged. He adds nothing to the story, but he's still a fan favorite. Wish's star is boring as frick.
the chuds just keep winning
They're gonna frick up Zootopia 2 and we're all gonna hate Judy, like they did to Gadget.
..what did they do to Gadget?
Had her impregnated by an insect
She gonna get FLYED?
why did wish cost so much to make
Disney is now the biggest failure of all time
That's around $200 per theater which is probably like 10-15 tickets. Impressive. Hope that insect never gets work again.
Probably like 7 showings, so 2 people per showing.
GO
Was there a single person trying to promote this movie that wasn't insufferable?
>autist loves Thomas the Tank Engine
what the frick is this phenomenon, why is it always Thomas the Tank Engine?
Autistics and Trains: the eternal love story
>autists also turn into trains at a massive rate
>Thomas the Tank Engine
What kind of Mandela Effect shit is this, in my timeline it was called "Thomas the Train Engine"
No it wasn't. You have mental illness
i think your mom bought you bootleg chinese toys
Good job anon, now you just need to find 500-1000 other morons with bad memories and you guys can force this meme and try to gaslight everyone else into agreeing with your false memory.
God I hate Mandela morons
Hey, at least it's not Sonic the Hedgehog. That shit attracts pure, weapons-grade autism for reasons I've never been able to figure out.
As a Sonic fan since the 90s, I can confirm that the Sonic fanbase is the most autistic fanbase of all time for whatever reason. No other fanbase even comes close.
oh no
we made the studio cry!
>You're laughing. A Disney movie is bombing right now, and you're laughing.
They made 32 million dollars and this is a bad thing for them? Damn I wish I lost as bad as they do.
It cost 300m to make, anon. And it released on thanksgiving weekend in murrika.
My bad, I thought gross meant without deductions.
Here comes the reddit humor
https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2023/11/27/wish-is-one-of-disneys-worst-openings-ever-for-an-animated-movie-heres-why/
>They made 32 million dollars and this is a bad thing for them?
Lol ofc it is. That's like the gross of a low budget movie like the Whale. They need like 10x that just to break even, probably more like 15,-20x by the time you account for marketing
I barely saw any advertising for it and what I did see didn't give any indication for what the movie was even about.
They probably realized it would be bad midway into production. Cut their losses with advertising.
Sheeeesh, they already made $32 million? That is more money that you are ever going to see in your lifetime chuddie
for a grand total of negative $168M
probably not going to owe that much in his lifetime either
>Sheeeesh, they already made $32 million?
They already spent $300 million though, so yeah they are in the hole $268 million. Even more since they only make 50% of box office
From what I remember, the rule was budget + 50% is the real cost, and gross is cut in half to make up for theater fees, so 600 to break even? Though there’s no way this movie costed 100 million for marketing. I don’t think they even ran commercials
They played the trailer constantly before other movies and had Wish posters and displays all over theaters. Even had Wish on bananas.
I guess that’s a decent way to market to people who already watch movies, but I wouldn’t know about it if I didn’t come here
>I don’t think they even ran commercials
They did. I saw ads for the movie on TV many times.
They were just so forgettable that people probably didn't realize they saw them.
Was there a notable song from this movie? Even the little flopmaid had the squawk box song.
I saw it in theaters and they just played the audio from Moana the whole time. Dialogue and everything. It was weird but creative I guess
The music is unironically worse than the plot. I wish I were kidding.
>the music
How bad are we talking about? Hercules bad or nu-Mermaid bad?
Worse than nu-mermaid bad, except not even memeable bad, just... Bad. Lots of modern words/phrases/sayings in it, very forgettable, does that form "rap" where they try and rhyme non rhyming words.
Watch for Asha, the most beautiful spanish princess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_films
Accounting for inflation, of the 80 or so most expensive movies ever made, only 6 were released before the year 2000. Movies are definitely much more at risk of losing money.
And holy geez in 2023 money Star Wars TFA would have had a budget of 552 million dollars.
Chuds win again.
>[Sad News]
man those cinemas must be shitting themselves
first they were stuck screening marlel's the marlels and now this
I'm not sad about that
The world is healing ever so slightly. Maybe the outlook on society's future won't be so bad on my deathbed.
UNFun Facts (prepare to be disappointed)
Asha was originally supposed to be Magnifico and Amaya's daughter
Magnifico and Amaya were supposed to be a darker skinned villain power couple with a cat "At all costs" was written for them but lyrics were changed
Star was supposed to be a mute boy and Asha's love interest
The movie was originally supposed to be 2d but Iger said it was "Too expensive" to bring back the old guard of animation. (Aaron Blaise, Chris Sanders, James Baxter etc.)
Look up Disney's 10+ year old short Paperman to see what this movie "WISHES" it was (lol get it?)
>The movie was originally supposed to be 2d
Ah yeah, so we were robbed of potential kino.
I fricking miss quality 2D animation, bros.
Is this clip https://youtu.be/bFmrzhuVOts really taken from the movie?
Shit looks like a PPT animation. How did they sink a hundred million dollars to make something like that?
What was the last big budget American 2D film in theaters? Seems like it's been forever. I hope Boy and the Heron outgrosses Wish, it will be hilarious.
>masks in 2023
Are there really people who are like this?
It's probably become an ingrained thing for some sheep. They'll wear the mask for the rest of their lives. Like Chinks do.
You're right.
Disney chose to celebrate their 100 year anniversary by going bankrupt from a year of box office bombs.
>Bankrupt
Black Rock (The Fed) would like a word with you.
What's the point of propaganda if no-one shows up to watch it? How is Blackrock going to raise an army of ESG thugs if the movie theaters are empty?
Great news for Disney majority stock holders looking to illegally devalue their stocks so they can buy them up for cheaper!
SEC, are you okay
Are you okay
Are you okay, SEC?
Anon, these people are guests, not workers. Regardless, I haven't seen anyone (including workers) wear a mask in 2.5 years where I live so either way it's fricked up and moronic. The pandemic ended in 2021.
the rapunzel on the stripper pole isn't masked
That only makes the whole thing even more bafflingly inconsistent.
I actually went on a Disney Cruise at the start of this year with my family
Most people were not wearing masks. I saw a few boomers and the sort wearing them, but the majority did not.
Why don't black people buy movie tickets?
>[Sad News]
>Sad News
Only for israelites because their propaganda isn't as effective as it used to be. For human beings like me, this is good news.
Why did this cost so much?
hair tech probably. was tangled infamously expensive or something?
Most expensive animated movie ever but you're right they had to make new software and shit to make the movie
Long production AND a scrapped early version of the movie that was meant to look like a painting. It's still their best looking 3d movie to date.
Seven years of production and rolling the cost of Meander, a program that was supposed to seamlessly blend CGI and 2D but eventually just became a pretty unremarkable cel shader who's biggest project was the Paperman short, into production.
It's the same reason Superman Returns has such a huge budget, because they rolled in the nonstarter of the Nicholas Cage Superman into it.
Couldn't have wished for a better 100th Anniversary than this disaster.
TIL sad news heals my soul
they expected the "chuds" to save their movie?
damn, chuds really have THAT much power
I dream of a world where no israeli companies exist and not a single company is headed by a israelite, and disney non existent.
It will have long legs you morons. Gonna tick over for months and most people watched it online anyways.
I got a long leg for you *unzips*
cant disney make a movie where a bunch of their classic characters come together and do fun and exciting shit?
like, a fantasia film or something
also, a kingdom hearts movie would ONLY be their saving grace
western political ideology has failed
its time for asia to make their stand in the hollywood movie market
Disney era is finally over
Kids now watch anime and youtube for entertainment instead of bland generic corporate-approved lgbt-friendly disney shit
I was going to see it but I didn't see the actors on Jimmy promoting it and decided it wasn't worth taking the chance
desu, what even is it?
It's called "Wish", and it's about a brown princess, I guess? That tells me absolutely nothing.
"The Little Mermaid" that's a thing.
"Aladdin" that's a thing.
I don't know what the frick "Wish" is.
Sad indeed!
Many such cases
so her wish was to be white (fairy grandmother)???????
I guess Disney is teasing race changes to the fairy godmother in future releases.
$1M CLUB: DISCOUNT TUESDAY
1. HUNGER GAMES ($2.6M)
2. NAPOLEON ($2M)
3. WISH ($1M)
owch
>Marvels didn't even hit half-a-mill on Monday
Embarrassing
>below 200 million box office
Holy fricking frick. This John Carter tier.
This is somehow even worse. John Carter almost hit 300 mill worldwide. Marvels might just barely hit 200 mill worldwide.
Well, Magnifico was the cooler character and they wanted us rooting against him.
Also, the little golden prince that could have led to funny shenanigans was changed to a ball.
So.
Haha.
>Disney releases two of the biggest flops in cinema history one after another
Holy frick shareholders are gonna love this.
shareholders and investors are degenerates who don't have the decency to keep their gambling insides casinos
They’re in theaters simultaneously after a year that also had Antman 3 and a baffling July release of Haunted Mansion. If shareholders had any sense of self-preservation they’d be demanding Iger’s head for creating the conditions where this is even possible
Pretty impressive to destroy the biggest media empire of all time in 3 or so years, quite the feat. Would be hard to do for most people even if they tried.
Test
The ones responsible for this failure won't be fired and blacklisted from Hollywood btw. They'll probably get a raise instead.
Wuz worth it to OWN DeSatan's Fascislorida
It will pick up some when christmas comes for sure, but still is a big bomb
its like ordering a disney movie on wish