Saw it again for the 1st time in 20 years.
Call me crazy, but I think it's actually underrated. It juggles high romance with strict history and intimacy with epic spectacle. Kinda hard to think of another movie checking all these disparate boxes. And it's far more mature than the other billion dollar grossers.
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>one of the highest grossing films of all time
>best picture oscar
>underrated
I mean in popular opinion. It's memed as that shallow teen girl love story, but that's really not doing it justice. The only other movie that juggles history and fantasy as elaborately that I can think of is Amadeus, great in it's own right but hardly historically accurate.
>I mean in popular opinion
I don't know how to break it to you anon but it's one of the most popular films ever made
Not around here.
You might actually be an unironic moron.
>believing Cinemaphile's opinion about literally anything
Popular doesn't mean respect. I mean, no one other than the most deranged marvelgays thinks the MCU are cinematic masterpieces
Nah he's right, it's kind of been reduced to a chick flick / joke
The frick are you on about? It's a beloved movie even to this day. You're hanging out with some uncultured swine group or some form of mutant moronation.
It's zoomer speak for "why isn't this trending on tiktok."
Underrated. Kek. It won 11 Oscars.
Have you checked out some of the other highest grossing and best picture winners lately? Titanic looks like Shakespeare next to that dreck.
>underrated
Its the only 3 hour+ long boat movie that women will actually sit though.
Its basically a miracle of filmmaking.
Here is a video of a steel ball under pressure. Please explain how the titanic is intact, complete with pristine champagne bottles.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/14hyhjy/implosion_of_a_steel_ball_under_pressure/
Maybe it's the same reason the camera didn't implode.
>linking r*ddit
Get the frick out
That steel ball is hollow, all of the pieces of the Titanic at the sea floor are solid. Some things on it did implode as it sunk.
I wonder if those wore the rooms people were trapped in.....
They absolutely popped.
I know for a fact that I would have died on the Titanic if i were on it back then. The horrifying thought is how I would have died. There's so many ways.
I think one dude got trapped in a vault.
That ball was hollow and full of air on the inside, so the pressure differential caused it to implode. Similar to the Titan sub.
The Titanic filled with water as it descended so the pressure was equalized inside and outside. Same with champagne. The inside of the bottle is pressurized with liquid, while the external pressure keeps the corks in place.
So why didn't they just travel to the Titanic in a giant champagne bottle (put on scuba gear to breathe)? This is moronic. I'm not going to just trust the science when you're asking me to believe that a submarine would implode but fricking bottles of champagne remain uncracked by having an entire ocean on them. Where's all that "muh 13 empire state buildings of pressure on every atom" bullshit people have been parrotting? You telling me if I place 13 empire state bhildings on top of the Titanic, it would be fine? That thing should be a pancake at the bottom of the ocean.
You're right it's all a huge conspiracy. Ths science of submarines are intentionally created inefficiently to shield the public from the knowledge of superior champagne bottle travel
The pressure is equal on all sides in the ocean, it's not all from the top. You fricking moron.
It's ok to admit that you don't understand how something works. There's no shame in it.
>So why didn't they just travel to the Titanic in a giant champagne bottle
>(put on scuba gear to breathe)
This made me kek
>moron
>links reddit
kys
it's a hollow ball unlike the non-imploded titanic
That same steel ball full of water wouldn’t implode, moron. The Titanic was flooded when it went down.
Water doesn't compress, that's the simplest explanation. If you could form a pillar of water, it could hold any amount of weight on top of it
holy brainlet. Implosions happen because of a difference in pressure. If you fill a steel ball with air and you go down into the sea the pressure of the water pressing on the ball will be much greater than the pressure of the air inside the ball pressing outwards on the walls of the ball. Eventually, the ball will give in to the outside pressure and collapse. The titanic was pretty much fully flooded by the time it reached the bottom so there was no pressure difference
>you idiota, how could you bet all our money?
>you idiot Olaf, how could you bet our tickets?
thats when I knew it was kino time
It's not underrated. It's probably adequately rated. It has its flaws, but the spectacle was groundbreaking and still holds up today. Cameron does a fantastic job of making the audience feel like they're on the Titanic, and she's almost a character off her own in the movie. It's sad to watch her die.
The romance is generic and rightly criticized and was memed on even when it first came out, but the actors were all fantastic and clearly did their best.
Not generic. Something like twilight is generic. The word you'll looking for is shallow, which I'll grant to some degree, but it's literally a 4 day cruise. Actually making it some deep romance would've been extremely melodramatic and forced. In the context of everything else they were forced to deal with from the actual sinking, the balance is kind of remarkable.
If the romance were actually generic then you'd have Hollywood copying it and sticking it against other disaster backdrops.
>If the romance were actually generic then you'd have Hollywood copying it and sticking it against other disaster backdrops.
They listened to a 100 year old lady describe getting painted naked and skullfricked by a twink from wisconsin
Just like on Golden Girls.
It’s a weird movie in terms of popular opinion. First it was beloved. Then it became trendy to hate it. And now it seems it goes in cycles between the two.
back in the day it came on two vhs tapes and the second tape picked up right around the iceberg impact, so you could just throw in the second tape for pure disaster kino
Yes, I had it on VHS and only watched the second tape.
I remember the cutoff point being her naked boobs.
>back in the day it came on two vhs tapes
I had this copy in my home. My mom loved this movie. Took me to see it in theaters twice as a kid.
>it's actually underrated
>it's actually good
>it's actually kino
yup, it's a paramount ad
$PARA is sinking faster than the titanic btw
>It juggles high romance with strict history and intimacy with epic spectacle. Kinda hard to think of another movie checking all these disparate boxes.
Pearl Harbor.
>Pearl Harbor
That movie stunk though.
You can't be serious
I am serious, and don't call me Shirley.
You sound like a braindead and moronic moron.
vro it's properly rated
It’s definitely better now than it was back then. The teenage fangirls ruined it for grown men to say they liked it. Also most movies these days are shit so an epic romance/disaster movie with no blacks and gays involved is now a gem.
You don't understand. Back in the late 90s we thought that blockbusters had no limit. We thought "Holy shit, if Titanic and Jurassic Park are this good, how incredible will movies become in a few years when CGI vastly improves?" Turns out we were completely wrong.
That's why all 90s movies are starting to look even better. They're aging like fine fricking wine while all capeshit looks like dogshit.
Jurassic Park, Titanic, and Lord of the Rings special effects are the holy trinity of aged like wine
Am I the only anon here who thinks Nolan is the only good filmmaker these days?
The ONLY one?
Yes.
>the "take her to sea" scene establishing how fricking long it takes for an order to happen
made me uncomfortable on my first viewing and sure enough, it took just as long in the iceberg striking
I started thinking of other historical movies that covered all those tones and came up empty too. Something like Apollo 13 or Saving Private Ryan has no romance, and Dunkirk, Das Boot, Lawrence of Arabia etc don't even have women. I suppose Kingdom of Heaven might kinda fit the bill, but honestly I always thought it was hollow and downright silly towards the end and only got recognition because of muh crusades during the Iraq war.
Honestly the best comparison might be the other biggest grosser, Gone With The Wind. Seems you need a female centric story to balance against the historic narrative.
Pearl Harbor, which was already brought up ITT.
If you're disregarding quality, might as well be include the porno Pirates II: Stagnetti's Revenge as an example.
Honestly, looking at the list of highest grossers makes you wish Titanic made a couple more billion dollars. I think nearly every other movie in the top 50 is either franchise shit or adapted from prior IP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films
People still pretend it's a bad movie for some reason lmao
It's a chick flick and a disaster movie at the same time. Cameron hit all the points of consumer interest.
>underrated
that's not Piranha II: The awakening though
I watched it in theaters again a few months back, started tearing up at the end of the movie.
>underrated
But it's not.
Reminder his family chimped out about this scene even though it's verified by like a dozen eyewitnesses
Reminder that this homie was not only stoic as frick, he also has the Devil's own luck, and repaid his debt in WWII.
FURTHER reminder that this homie was easily the hero of Titanic, and the best confirmed story all around.
And for those who have no idea whom this is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Joughin?wprov=sfla1
There's your kino for the decade. Enjoy.
"As the ship finally sank, Joughin rode it down as if it were an elevator, not getting his head under the water (in his words, his head "may have been wetted, but no more"). He was, therefore, the last survivor to leave the Titanic.
The Collapsible B lifeboat is found by the CS Mackay-Bennett.
According to his own testimony, Joughin kept paddling and treading water for about two hours. He also admitted to hardly feeling the cold, most likely thanks to the alcohol he had imbibed. When daylight broke, he spotted the upturned Collapsible B lifeboat, with Second Officer Charles Lightoller and around 30 men standing on the side of the boat. Joughin slowly swam towards it, but there was no room for him. A man, however, cook Isaac Maynard, recognized him and held his hand as the Chief Baker held onto the side of the boat, with his feet and legs still in the water. Another lifeboat then appeared and Joughin swam to it and was taken in, where he stayed until he boarded the RMS Carpathia that had come to their rescue. He was rescued from the sea with only swollen feet."
0% chance this guy was in that water for 2 hours, alcohol would speed up hypothermia lol
You're a moron.
>my opinion disagrees with survivor accounts that include people who found him adrift and assisted him
Go frick yourself to death.
There's honestly some incredible Titanic kino if you read about it, including the story of
>highest ranking surviving officer, intends to go down with the ship, spends his last moments aboard trying to dislodge a stuck lifeboat
>gets pulled down underwater as the ship sinks, stuck to a grate by vacuum forces
>an explosion bow deck catapults him to the surface
>finds his way to the lifeboat he happened to extricate
>helps keep order enough to keep everyone clinging to it alive until rescue
>WWI - fends off an attack from German airships using only flares
>WWIi - despite being retired, rescues British soldiers from Dunkirk using his private fishing vessel
>because he said that's what happened then that's what happened
>everybody else in the water died within minutes but one guy says he was swimming alone for 2 hours
i have a bridge to sell you
>because Titanic sank at 2:20
>because survivors clinging to the same collapsible lifeboat corroborated his story
>because you are a goddamn ignorant moron
D. All of the above.
>gives up his lifeboat seat for someone else
>throws deck chairs off for people to float on
>all while piss drunk
based
He lived twice as hard as you nerds ever will
>We're sinking?
>Better take a sippy
>Alright lads, get to work! The frickin' people need bread on the boats!
>*takes a sip*
>Imma toss you and your little girl on that boat, swear to Christ I will
>*takes a sip*
>What the frick?! I'm suppose to be on Lifeboat 10! I better not cause a commotion and set a good example for the kids
>*takes a sip*
>I'm tossing these fricking chairs to keep you imbeciles afloat and one of them better be left for me
>*takes a sip*
>Aww frick shit is going under. I better get to the poop deck and take one last sip
>Shits really going to hell now
>*takes a sip while casually walking off the Titanic as it goes under*
>hey, this ain't so bad at all. Water is quite warm
>Where's my fricking chair?!
I think it's vulnerable to ridicule because it's actually very human, despite all the special effects and mass death. I mean Jack and Rose are teenagers yeah, but anyone with a healthy upbringing can relate to young love and what it felt like. Whereas other blockbusters insist on either making girls ass kicking superheroes or rape victims of toxic masculinity. And then you add all the tragedy of the sinking on top.
There's definitely something different about it from the usual mega hit, that's for sure.
Why didn't they all just jump onto the iceberg and wait there to be rescued?
this, if the iceberg was big enough it was gonna be like landing on shore
this shit reads like zoomer youtube comments. they proclaim every fricking scene deserves an oscar, everything is the best thing ever or the worst thing ever.
fricking hyperbolic brainwashed little plebs, can't coherently speak or articulate without shitting out some click bait attention grabbing headline