If that stupid b***h didn't hesitate she would've made it in time. plus they deserved it more out of any of saw's victims due to scamming cancer patients. based nigsaw.
That’s annoying some of them would’ve beat it if they had more time and getting as far as they did should’ve been enough. It is pretty extreme to have to sever or operate on yourself compared to the pipe bomb he had to rip his arm apart but not lose it
it seemed like half of the traps in this one weren't designed for the player to be able to win at all. Made me wonder if it was on purpose since Amanda is featured and she designed no-win traps
It was Amanda that set up the moronic plot-point in the very first movie where Adam's key was literally designed to go down the drain once he wakes up.
What's that? You woke up in a completely unknown location, in complete darkness, underwater, and didn't immediately think to grab the glowing thing? Guess you gotta SAW your leg off!
what was their game supposed to even be, Adam was intended to have gotten the key and free to walk around and the doctor was supposed to kill him, was Adam supposed to just dodge his bullets the whole time and not die? Even though jiggy still left him to die
>Even though jiggy still left him to die
"I'll get help... I promise!"
Dr. Gordon was an even bigger butthole. Adam had literally no way out, as I'm pretty sure the door was locked so they couldn't escape during/after the game even if they freed themselves from the chains.
Even though he didn't complete the trap the intended way, you would think that Jigsaw would have let him go considering how he redeems himself by saving Dr. Gordon from Zep, but I guess being a "voyeur" (he was more of a budget private investigator) to pay the fricking bills is just too much.
>Even though he didn't complete the trap the intended way, you would think that Jigsaw would have let him go considering how he redeems himself by saving Dr. Gordon from Zep, but I guess being a "voyeur" (he was more of a budget private investigator) to pay the fricking bills is just too much.
he tried to shoot Jigsaw (an innocent man).
if he just relaxed he would have been freed but he sperged out
>he tried to shoot Jigsaw (an innocent man).
Ah, I actually forgot that part, my bad.
Though it's kind of fricked that Jigsaw literally tells him that the key is in the bathtub, as if he wouldn't have already found it were it still there.
Pretty sure if you cut you leg off and sucked out bone marrow you would die before Amanda would be able to get you into a car and to a hospital. Brain one possibly as well
the problem with all Saw movies past the first few is they only really feature impossible traps and just became gore fests. The first Saw was great because you didn't actually see the jaw trap activate, but the thought of it alone was scary
I'll tell you even more. None of the traps are designed for the victim to survive after he passes the test. It's a miracle of rather a serious miscalculation on jiggys side that even some of the people in these movies survive.
Jiggy just kills anyone he doesn't like and then makes an excuse "well they never wanted to live it seems". At least Hoffman and Amanda were honest.
what was their game supposed to even be, Adam was intended to have gotten the key and free to walk around and the doctor was supposed to kill him, was Adam supposed to just dodge his bullets the whole time and not die? Even though jiggy still left him to die
Zep was literally the game. Gordon and Adam were meant to both win, which is why the key was left to unlock both of the chains until it was flushed down the drain. Amanda fricked the entire thing up from the beginning because she was supposed to tie the key around around one of Adam's toes in the tub. Zep was supposed to kill Allison and Diana, Gordon was supposed to kill or attempt to kill to show John how much he would be willing to do to survive and save his family. Sawing off his foot was what won Gordon the game despite running out of time. Adam could've easily done the same thing, but he tried killing John which is what ultimately lead to his failure and loss of the game, and eventually his death.
It was Amanda that set up the moronic plot-point in the very first movie where Adam's key was literally designed to go down the drain once he wakes up.
What's that? You woke up in a completely unknown location, in complete darkness, underwater, and didn't immediately think to grab the glowing thing? Guess you gotta SAW your leg off!
[...] >Even though jiggy still left him to die
"I'll get help... I promise!"
Dr. Gordon was an even bigger butthole. Adam had literally no way out, as I'm pretty sure the door was locked so they couldn't escape during/after the game even if they freed themselves from the chains.
Even though he didn't complete the trap the intended way, you would think that Jigsaw would have let him go considering how he redeems himself by saving Dr. Gordon from Zep, but I guess being a "voyeur" (he was more of a budget private investigator) to pay the fricking bills is just too much.
Zep was literally the game. Gordon and Adam were meant to both win, which is why the key was left to unlock both of the chains until it was flushed down the drain. Amanda fricked the entire thing up from the beginning because she was supposed to tie the key around around one of Adam's toes in the tub. Zep was supposed to kill Allison and Diana, Gordon was supposed to kill or attempt to kill to show John how much he would be willing to do to survive and save his family. Sawing off his foot was what won Gordon the game despite running out of time. Adam could've easily done the same thing, but he tried killing John which is what ultimately lead to his failure and loss of the game, and eventually his death.
That’s what I didn’t get. It must be another game where only one lives.it’s odd they never explored zep more and why he messed with them if he was being forced to do it. And it seems jigsaw was twisted then as he lied about the guy in Amanda’s game being dead and tried to have a family killed
so they completely retconned their own stupid ass 'uhh Jigsaw isn't a murderer because he never kills they just didn't try hard enough to save themselves lol' thing?
>Hello Hunter. Your delusions around being a woman has ruined an entire generation of men who otherwise would know who they are and what they are expected to be. Your wide shoulders, your manly chin, and horribly fake, botched hexagon implants cannot hide the fact that you clearly were born a male. For your crimes, you'll be forced to choose: do you atone for your sins and remove that which makes you check "M" on the census, or drown in 100 gallons of anon semen? The choice is yours. Your time starts now.
The traps were complete bullshit and it really pissed me off
Cutting off your leg in 3 minutes should have been the challenge itself, but having to wait for your blood to run through a pipe and dying because of that was embarrassing
The other trap where the dude literally had to remove his brain parts was even more infuriating, even before the ADDITIONAL brain needs to be dissolved slowly within 3 minutes
But that the evil white women didn’t get any punishment and got away with it made me turn off the movie.
What a piece of shit, even by the abysmal saw standards how can you even frick up the traps so bad
I think the worst part is that they literally do it twice in a row. Both times the players actually succeed in their task and die waiting for a thing to happen. It's lazy, stupid and breaks kramer's already flimsy character. >they weren't meant to win
Then why does the fricking orchestrater live scott fricking free.
While the main villain lady's trap was easy get through she still would have got chemical burns all over her body permanently scarring her. All poking her head out of toxic area did was just prevent her from breathing it in. On a side note Gabriela was a dumb b***h, if she broke her hand first out of her shackle she would have dropped to the ground so the microwave cooking her would have no way to get back in front of her.
They all had easier ways to complete their tests. >Valentina could've sucked the bone marrow from her amputated leg instead of her stump >Mateo had much better tools then what he used to extract a part of his brain
If you breathed in a caustic toxin that burns your skin via inhalation, it would scare your inside and you'd be dead anyway. No compound like that exists on this planet unless we are now writing that Kramer is a genius chemist as well, which at this point in the series wouldn't be farfetched.
>Zepp: Kidnap and potentially murder a mom, dad, and daughter if the dad doesn't finish his game >Gordon: Kill Adam and wait there for someone to let you out >Adam: Survive, and by completing you're game means 3 other people die
kinda thinking this jigsaw guy is a bit of a jerk
>he doesnt cut off his own leg and suck out the bone marrow in 2 minutes for fun
Lmao what are you? A gay? You havent lived until youve done that 3 or 4 times
>prostitute and the scammer guy are both willing to suffer the trap and brutally mutilate themselves >"lol you were 2 seconds too slow bye bye"
Doesn't this defeat the purpose of the traps?
The traps were complete bullshit and it really pissed me off
Cutting off your leg in 3 minutes should have been the challenge itself, but having to wait for your blood to run through a pipe and dying because of that was embarrassing
The other trap where the dude literally had to remove his brain parts was even more infuriating, even before the ADDITIONAL brain needs to be dissolved slowly within 3 minutes
But that the evil white women didn’t get any punishment and got away with it made me turn off the movie.
What a piece of shit, even by the abysmal saw standards how can you even frick up the traps so bad
This. Amanda's trap in 1 was that she just needed to rake through someone else's stomach to get a key, how the frick are any of the traps in X fair in comparison to that?
Maybe consider the fact that these dudes are on the same level of evil or probably higher than Jigsaw himself
He felt a lot more vengeance against them than the people he kidnaps in the first movies.
Anon please. That woman is as good as dead. Whatever that gas was it dissolves skin and except for her head the rest of the body is still exposed to the gas after time runs out. Even if she somehow survives that it will be a rather short and painful life. More likely some hobo will use her head for a promise of freeing her.
General rule in horror movies is fi you don't see the person outright die then they're probably still alive, and even if they do die there's still a chance they come back. So think it's likely they're bringing her back for the next one with some rivalry between her and Jiggy
I thought about a moronic plot where there's two jigsaws competing so they just hire henchmen to trap each other in their traps and now must use outwit the rules of each trap being engineers and such.
I think the worst part is that they literally do it twice in a row. Both times the players actually succeed in their task and die waiting for a thing to happen. It's lazy, stupid and breaks kramer's already flimsy character. >they weren't meant to win
Then why does the fricking orchestrater live scott fricking free.
Nah, the studio should be in jail for not being able to find computer preloaded with Windows XP already on it, no need to give us Windows 10 with a hastily-applied Luna skin
I liked it, bit of an asspull that Jigsaw somehow knew that the woman and the guy would force Jigsaw to go on the trap, instead of just trying to shoot him.
He realized both of them are psychopaths that don't feel anything when scamming cancer patients, obv they will treat the dude who wants to kill them in a sick way
>saves the guy in Jigsaw because he'd have lost the game due to not waking up in time >doesn't save Adam even though he lost the game due to Amanda's sabotage
Yeah what the frick was up with that one (think it was 4), that movie also had the old lady who was pin-cushioned with rebar just because she was in an abusive relationship.
Saw 3 was the best film in the series and all the runner ups rely exclusively on being fun soap operas with Hoffman.
I don't know why the last 3 Saw re imaginings have tried so hard to be more grounded, just have Kramer come back as a AI ghost or something ridiculous. Also the traps in this one were horrendous, easily the laziest/worst in the series.
If that stupid b***h didn't hesitate she would've made it in time. plus they deserved it more out of any of saw's victims due to scamming cancer patients. based nigsaw.
That’s annoying some of them would’ve beat it if they had more time and getting as far as they did should’ve been enough. It is pretty extreme to have to sever or operate on yourself compared to the pipe bomb he had to rip his arm apart but not lose it
almost like its an allegory to jigsaw barely having enough time to live because of cancer and those people messing with his time giving him false hope
>Not cutting the ropes around the neck to free yourself
Women, am I right?
it seemed like half of the traps in this one weren't designed for the player to be able to win at all. Made me wonder if it was on purpose since Amanda is featured and she designed no-win traps
No amanda was loyal it was his other goon making no-wins
It was Amanda that set up the moronic plot-point in the very first movie where Adam's key was literally designed to go down the drain once he wakes up.
What's that? You woke up in a completely unknown location, in complete darkness, underwater, and didn't immediately think to grab the glowing thing? Guess you gotta SAW your leg off!
>Even though jiggy still left him to die
"I'll get help... I promise!"
Dr. Gordon was an even bigger butthole. Adam had literally no way out, as I'm pretty sure the door was locked so they couldn't escape during/after the game even if they freed themselves from the chains.
Even though he didn't complete the trap the intended way, you would think that Jigsaw would have let him go considering how he redeems himself by saving Dr. Gordon from Zep, but I guess being a "voyeur" (he was more of a budget private investigator) to pay the fricking bills is just too much.
>Even though he didn't complete the trap the intended way, you would think that Jigsaw would have let him go considering how he redeems himself by saving Dr. Gordon from Zep, but I guess being a "voyeur" (he was more of a budget private investigator) to pay the fricking bills is just too much.
he tried to shoot Jigsaw (an innocent man).
if he just relaxed he would have been freed but he sperged out
>he tried to shoot Jigsaw (an innocent man).
Ah, I actually forgot that part, my bad.
Though it's kind of fricked that Jigsaw literally tells him that the key is in the bathtub, as if he wouldn't have already found it were it still there.
are you stupid? the brain one and this leg one were 99% completed, clearly possible to win it but they hesitated in the beginning 10-20 seconds
Pretty sure if you cut you leg off and sucked out bone marrow you would die before Amanda would be able to get you into a car and to a hospital. Brain one possibly as well
the problem with all Saw movies past the first few is they only really feature impossible traps and just became gore fests. The first Saw was great because you didn't actually see the jaw trap activate, but the thought of it alone was scary
I'll tell you even more. None of the traps are designed for the victim to survive after he passes the test. It's a miracle of rather a serious miscalculation on jiggys side that even some of the people in these movies survive.
Jiggy just kills anyone he doesn't like and then makes an excuse "well they never wanted to live it seems". At least Hoffman and Amanda were honest.
saw 1 was good, the rest are thrash
my saw would have lots of hot chicks, but at the end it's revealed that they are all traps.
what was their game supposed to even be, Adam was intended to have gotten the key and free to walk around and the doctor was supposed to kill him, was Adam supposed to just dodge his bullets the whole time and not die? Even though jiggy still left him to die
my headcanon is that Adam's game was designed to work regardless of whether he found the key or not
Zep was literally the game. Gordon and Adam were meant to both win, which is why the key was left to unlock both of the chains until it was flushed down the drain. Amanda fricked the entire thing up from the beginning because she was supposed to tie the key around around one of Adam's toes in the tub. Zep was supposed to kill Allison and Diana, Gordon was supposed to kill or attempt to kill to show John how much he would be willing to do to survive and save his family. Sawing off his foot was what won Gordon the game despite running out of time. Adam could've easily done the same thing, but he tried killing John which is what ultimately lead to his failure and loss of the game, and eventually his death.
That’s what I didn’t get. It must be another game where only one lives.it’s odd they never explored zep more and why he messed with them if he was being forced to do it. And it seems jigsaw was twisted then as he lied about the guy in Amanda’s game being dead and tried to have a family killed
He was giving them false hope like they gave him. The movie outright tells you this.
so they completely retconned their own stupid ass 'uhh Jigsaw isn't a murderer because he never kills they just didn't try hard enough to save themselves lol' thing?
>cut your leg off at the upper thigh
you'd die instantly
This. The loss of blood and therefore drops in blood pressure would just completely frick up blood delivery to the brain killing you.
How does Amanda look in the new movie? And is she a main character in it?
a troony forced to castrate themselves would be a kino trap
>Hello Hunter. Your delusions around being a woman has ruined an entire generation of men who otherwise would know who they are and what they are expected to be. Your wide shoulders, your manly chin, and horribly fake, botched hexagon implants cannot hide the fact that you clearly were born a male. For your crimes, you'll be forced to choose: do you atone for your sins and remove that which makes you check "M" on the census, or drown in 100 gallons of anon semen? The choice is yours. Your time starts now.
So further mutilate himself or send him to Ballshalla?
We shouldn't be mean to hunter
Nothing said here could be more cruel than what he's doing to himself.
>he's
Yes. He's. The guy born with a penis. The mentally ill man that thinks he can be woman when he was born with a penis.
what a waste of good white genes.
>good genes
why did the most evil one get the easiest game?
so she can be back in the sequel
While the main villain lady's trap was easy get through she still would have got chemical burns all over her body permanently scarring her. All poking her head out of toxic area did was just prevent her from breathing it in. On a side note Gabriela was a dumb b***h, if she broke her hand first out of her shackle she would have dropped to the ground so the microwave cooking her would have no way to get back in front of her.
They all had easier ways to complete their tests.
>Valentina could've sucked the bone marrow from her amputated leg instead of her stump
>Mateo had much better tools then what he used to extract a part of his brain
Don't think in the position she was in she was able to both saw her leg off and catch it before it fell. A single leg is about 20% of your body weight
If you breathed in a caustic toxin that burns your skin via inhalation, it would scare your inside and you'd be dead anyway. No compound like that exists on this planet unless we are now writing that Kramer is a genius chemist as well, which at this point in the series wouldn't be farfetched.
THEY SEE ME JIGGIN
THEY FUNDIN
>Zepp: Kidnap and potentially murder a mom, dad, and daughter if the dad doesn't finish his game
>Gordon: Kill Adam and wait there for someone to let you out
>Adam: Survive, and by completing you're game means 3 other people die
kinda thinking this jigsaw guy is a bit of a jerk
Jigsaw = JigC
Baker = MC
Afraid of Jigsaw? No, I enjoy MC content.
>he doesnt cut off his own leg and suck out the bone marrow in 2 minutes for fun
Lmao what are you? A gay? You havent lived until youve done that 3 or 4 times
>"Hello Joyce Dagen. Burn in hell. Die or die."
>prostitute and the scammer guy are both willing to suffer the trap and brutally mutilate themselves
>"lol you were 2 seconds too slow bye bye"
Doesn't this defeat the purpose of the traps?
Just gotta choose to live harder bro.
Has this guy ever committed a single crime ? He doesn't look like he did.
Bros, I'm not ready for when Tobin Bell dies.
Probably the first actor for which I'll be sad about their death.
The traps were complete bullshit and it really pissed me off
Cutting off your leg in 3 minutes should have been the challenge itself, but having to wait for your blood to run through a pipe and dying because of that was embarrassing
The other trap where the dude literally had to remove his brain parts was even more infuriating, even before the ADDITIONAL brain needs to be dissolved slowly within 3 minutes
But that the evil white women didn’t get any punishment and got away with it made me turn off the movie.
What a piece of shit, even by the abysmal saw standards how can you even frick up the traps so bad
This. Amanda's trap in 1 was that she just needed to rake through someone else's stomach to get a key, how the frick are any of the traps in X fair in comparison to that?
Maybe consider the fact that these dudes are on the same level of evil or probably higher than Jigsaw himself
He felt a lot more vengeance against them than the people he kidnaps in the first movies.
Anon please. That woman is as good as dead. Whatever that gas was it dissolves skin and except for her head the rest of the body is still exposed to the gas after time runs out. Even if she somehow survives that it will be a rather short and painful life. More likely some hobo will use her head for a promise of freeing her.
General rule in horror movies is fi you don't see the person outright die then they're probably still alive, and even if they do die there's still a chance they come back. So think it's likely they're bringing her back for the next one with some rivalry between her and Jiggy
I thought about a moronic plot where there's two jigsaws competing so they just hire henchmen to trap each other in their traps and now must use outwit the rules of each trap being engineers and such.
could see her getting turned into some jigsaw copycat to get revenge on him
I think the worst part is that they literally do it twice in a row. Both times the players actually succeed in their task and die waiting for a thing to happen. It's lazy, stupid and breaks kramer's already flimsy character.
>they weren't meant to win
Then why does the fricking orchestrater live scott fricking free.
reminder the jiggy should be in jail for not activating windows
Nah, the studio should be in jail for not being able to find computer preloaded with Windows XP already on it, no need to give us Windows 10 with a hastily-applied Luna skin
>good morning sar yuo play game now
>open microshaft service center and type yu're computar seriel number
>do this in 3 minutes or find shit at door
I liked it, bit of an asspull that Jigsaw somehow knew that the woman and the guy would force Jigsaw to go on the trap, instead of just trying to shoot him.
He realized both of them are psychopaths that don't feel anything when scamming cancer patients, obv they will treat the dude who wants to kill them in a sick way
>saves the guy in Jigsaw because he'd have lost the game due to not waking up in time
>doesn't save Adam even though he lost the game due to Amanda's sabotage
Adam tried to shoot John
think she'll end up as an apprentice?
i could've seen her as the apprentice that betrays jigsaw at the end but he's dead already
maybe in the sequel Amanda comes back for revenge to kill her which is why she then makes her unwinnable traps
>which is why she then makes her unwinnable traps
I always thought Hoffman forced her to do that
nah
>tfw no psycho milf doctor gf
>Uuuuuh you care too much about saving people and that's le bad. I want to play a game
Fricking seriously?
Yeah what the frick was up with that one (think it was 4), that movie also had the old lady who was pin-cushioned with rebar just because she was in an abusive relationship.
I thought you guys said this was le epic and good? Besides the general surgery storyline almost every aspect was shit.
Once you stop viewing Cinemaphile as a collective you'll no longer have this problem.
Saw 3 was the best film in the series and all the runner ups rely exclusively on being fun soap operas with Hoffman.
I don't know why the last 3 Saw re imaginings have tried so hard to be more grounded, just have Kramer come back as a AI ghost or something ridiculous. Also the traps in this one were horrendous, easily the laziest/worst in the series.
You know, it may not technically be "murder," but if you really think about it what Jigsaw does is kind of messed up