I'm so fricking tired of israelites attacking traditional dinosaurs. >it had feathers and was a scavenger and was probably gay and had 2 dads >actually whatever it wasn't even real you fricking chuds!
what the frick are our kids going to do without traditional, masculine dinosaur role models
>like how there's a 9th planet called Pluto
Checked. Of all the reasons to hate Neil Degrasse Tyson, him going "UMM ACKSHYUALLY" about Pluto was the most egregious to me, and I will never forgive his black ass for that.
Science is a political thing, because the choices scientists make in what to study is based on funding.
Choosing popular subjects even if you don't have a leg to stand on gets you funding and publicity, which can be springboarded into the next study. That's why even after 122 years we still haven't progressed past redefining T-Rex.
The anon is wrong in that it's not so much a targeted attack as much as careless self-interest. They want to be part of popular history and make a name for themselves, and if that requires radically changing the perception of some dinosaur then so be it.
>They want to be part of popular history and make a name for themselves
Basically this, if you're not pulling in the grant gibs the universities that these types of scientists rely on aren't interested in you, and the wrong types of conclusions (or boring conclusions) don't keep the tap open.
The only other option for them is the private sector but they, as Ray Stantz said, expect results.
>every 2 years palentology is wrong and has an update about something >climate science has never been and never will be wrong though every single scientist agrees
Science is a political thing, because the choices scientists make in what to study is based on funding.
Choosing popular subjects even if you don't have a leg to stand on gets you funding and publicity, which can be springboarded into the next study. That's why even after 122 years we still haven't progressed past redefining T-Rex.
The anon is wrong in that it's not so much a targeted attack as much as careless self-interest. They want to be part of popular history and make a name for themselves, and if that requires radically changing the perception of some dinosaur then so be it.
trillions must pay and billions must die, for science!
palentology is a meme
all you're doing is try to guess what animlas once existed with only a few rocks as evidence. not even a real skeleton. it's impossible to get accurate results and will never never get accurate results
let's take for example a pig skeleton. people would think that pigs were carnivorous creatures that are similar to wolfs but in real life pigs are fat . if you look at their neck and back legs they're nothing like their skeleton. the neckbone of pigs is 3 times the size of their neck bone. and than you have all the problems with animals that don't have skeletons or have different bones weaker/smaller and there's alot of body structures that can't be fossilized like hair and feathers. for all you know dinosaurs could had hair or they could had giant tentacle limbs without bones which is ridiculous but is very much possible since you can't find any evidence to disprove or prove this statement. squid in particular could be anything ancient squid could have 20 ink glands just because i said so
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wild hogs are significantly leaner than domestic pigs and that's the natural state of the species (pigs literally turn into wild hogs if left in the wild)
that's like going "hah paleontologists wouldn't expect humans to carry around 100lbs of pure fat and have enormous bellies" when in fact that's no the natural state for humans, that's just american degeneracy
pigs also have significant omnivorous traits that are readily apparent just from their dentures and attachment of their abdominal muscles
maybe paleontologists would think hogs engaged in some degree of active predation, but they would be split on it being opportunistic or not, which again, is pretty accurate because hogs stumbling upon weakened animals they can catch will absolutely fricking eat them
It's precisely through the avenues of science via biology, physiology, and taxonomy that you can definitively showcase that sexual dimorphism is a reality. It's not until you philosophize metaphysically about what the essence of womanhood is that trannies become validated.
israelite take detected. I bet you think ~~*satan*~~ put them there and we live on a ~~*flat*~~ earth. All fundamental to the israeli worldview.
Jews know the dinosaurs are real and conflict with the rabbinical worldview and cannot refute the physical evidence and blood memory of every Aryan so they instead poison the well and deceive our children into thinking that theropods are all big gay chickens.
Paleontology has always been a joke science. They're no further along with actually knowing anything than they were when they thought all the big dinosaurs must've been mostly water dwelling because of their size.
Just because it's speculative does not make it a joke or wrong. Plenty of fossils have been discovered with feather imprints, so that's just factual at this point. We really know nothing about what they looked like of how they behaved and probably never will though.
I still believe that what we're witnessing with the wild change of dinosaurs in pop culture is the result of a bunch of rexgays getting asshurt at Jurassic Park III as kids.
And a lot of those same rexgays happen to be lefty feathergays that like to suck off China.
spinocucks are the real cancer killing the dinosaur community. your oversized crocodile couldn't beat a t-rex ever. Only Jurassic Park I and II are canon to real dinosaurs, 3 is a fanfic not based on real science.
Nobody actually believes a Spinosaurus could kill a T. Rex, it was just a cool fight in a movie between two cool looking giant frogs made to look like dinosaurs.
Thank you for proving my point about asshurt rexgays though.
Go back to your TranniesAgianstFascism discord server and tell your commie admins that you are ceasing operations here because you are too stupid to remain incognito long enough to sow any division.
You must be literally moronic, probably from those hormone replacement pills.
Wanting to see the mentally unwell exterminated or removed form society is the ideal we should follow. I would happily cancel pride month forever if we could replace it with a total genocide of your kind.
You mean you're so far gone you've collapsed reality and ironic characterization/demonization of your political "opponents"? And you think that's a problem caused by them and not you and your programmers?
Even in Jurassic park 1 Allan Grant says that these dinos might have feathers on their bodies since their are prehistoric ancestors of chickens, but I get what you mean. I dont mind the new dino designs, but I agree that they are cucked as fricked compared to the old dino designs
Scientists have no fricking idea what they're doing with dinosaurs. It's been proven that they entered a few creatures into the record when they were erroneous reconstructions of skeletons, made up of multiple creatures because they thought the bones fit well together. They don't know if they had feathers, warm blood, cold blood, scales, leather skin, what color they were, they can only guess at the noises. It fricking goes on. Dinosaurs are the most "Plato's Cave" fricking thing in the 20th century, right next to the moon landing.
>Plato's Cave thing >Plato's Cave: The story of prisoners trapped in a cave, only able to see shadowy images cast against the wall in front of them by unseen people holding up objects behind them, was meant to represent the manner in which most people, relying only on their immediate senses, could understand only a little of the nature of reality.
Are you suggesting that the moon landing was an issue of perception? Are you insane or high on farts? You're talking like a first grade philosophy-gay, frick off.
I still believe that what we're witnessing with the wild change of dinosaurs in pop culture is the result of a bunch of rexgays getting asshurt at Jurassic Park III as kids.
And a lot of those same rexgays happen to be lefty feathergays that like to suck off China.
Incredibly based
As somebody who once pursued paleontlogy, this isn't far from the truth
If you are referring to the theropod T. rex, it is very likely that it was no stranger to scavenging. A body of that size, with jaws that powerful, would be able to destroy a cadaver and devour whatever was too tough for other animals to consume. Again, it's size would make it unable to skip an available meal, and it was therefore likely both an active hunter as well as a scavenger (like a hyena, but relying instead on the power of one indivual rather than a pack).
Their size would allow them to go after prey that for other creatures would be too large to fell, but this of course comes with a high risk/high reward. Take the famous sauropods, for example. Their life strategy was to become so big so that no one would dare attack them. Adults would be at risk if sick, injured, or too old, and juveniles would at different ages be a different type of prey item for carnivores according to size. T. rex could therefore increase its general odds against larger prey items, while lessening competition.
As for the feathers. T. rex is currently not believed to be fully feathered. This is based on skin imprints from around the body of a fossil. The feathers in general varied from species to species, and had different functions.
Though, I agree, there was a tendency to over feather everything for a period, due to the confirmation of some being feathered, but it has calmed down now.
>Dinosaurs are political issues
How does it feel to be so infantile? Your goo-goo-gaga incomprehensible bullshit is slithering out of your pie-hole like diarrhea out of a mutt, which I suspect you are too.
Paleontology has always been a joke science. They're no further along with actually knowing anything than they were when they thought all the big dinosaurs must've been mostly water dwelling because of their size.
Every animal we see now was probably just 10x bigger. The whole thing with dinosaurs being chickens. They were probably literally just 40ft chickens walking about. Then earth got shitter and fricked biology up.
It was paleo artist Darren Naish, I believe. It only further prooves the point that we are closer to understanding them when applying the law of uniformitarianism, and treating them like the animals that they were rather than fantastical monsters
This phenomenon is reffered to by the paleo community as "shrink wrapping", and it's ghey. It started out his way when paleontology was first beginning to bloom, and among the findings they found remnants of crocodylomorphs from the same era. Given how the skull of a crocodile looks, people just assumed that the same rule applied to these seemingly lizardlike bones.
>They're no further along with actually knowing anything than they were when they thought all the big dinosaurs must've been mostly water dwelling because of their size.
what a load of shit, they know tons of stuff that they didn't even 10 years ago
>single study from 2022 >widely rejected by experts in the field as complete nonsense >media randomly reposting it in 2024 anyways for easy outrage clicks
Classic
Your whole perception of paleontology is warped by highly irresponsible journalism that portrays active debate and growing understand as if they were just waffling back and forth between conflicting ideas.
The real joke is science journalists.
they gave paleontologists skeletons of real animals and asked them to reconstruct what they look like, and this was the result.
No, these are mock examples critiquing past methods and mistakes when portraying dinosaurs, the "Shrink-wrapping" effect. Because of the pushback to these mistakes, T-Rex these days is usually portrayed as slightly more chunky and muscular than it used to be in media like JP.
wasn't there more O2 in the atmosphere at the time allowing for megafauna? That is something that can be actually tested for, unlike most paleontology. ice core samples have air in them
You are correct in there being a gargantuan amount of missing information. Pay in mind, that paleontology as a field of study is relatively young, as well as inherently hard to study due to the remnants of the former inhabitants of the earths mostly are comprizes of lithified remains. You are proposing a hypothesis, written by a phycisicist called Brian J Ford who figured that dinosaurs (and especially sauropods) died out due to them being unable to reproduce without large bodies of water (unironically called the sex lake theory). Ford did not have all the data, however, and his theory is one of the less plausible. Thought water might have been utilized in their lifestyle, it doesn't really correlate with the findings. The issue of reproduction can be solved by specialized genitalia. The density of the bones imply being able to bear massive weight, and are indicative of a terrestrial animal (but with possibly comfortable in water. There are lovely footprints from sauropods, indicating that they could swim, kind of, but only if they could reach the bottom with their front feet.
I believe the Utahraptor wasn't even announced when JP came out, they just took Velociraptors and made them bigger, and then paleontologists actually found the Utahraptor
no, they're deinonychus
both in the novel and film >Crichton met with the discoverer of Deinonychus, John Ostrom, several times at Yale University to discuss details of the animal's possible range of behaviors and appearance. Crichton at one point apologetically told Ostrom that he had decided to use the name Velociraptor in place of Deinonychus because the former name was "more dramatic." According to Ostrom, Crichton stated that the Velociraptor of the novel was based on Deinonychus in almost every detail, and that only the name had been changed. The Jurassic Park filmmakers also requested all of Ostrom's published papers on Deinonychus during production.[66] They portrayed the animals with the size, proportions, and snout shape of Deinonychus rather than Velociraptor.[67][68]
>In the past, other dromaeosaurid species, including Deinonychus antirrhopus and Saurornitholestes langstoni, have sometimes been classified in the genus Velociraptor. Since Velociraptor was the first to be named, these species were renamed Velociraptor antirrhopus and V. langstoni.[21] As of 2008, the only currently recognized species of Velociraptor are V. mongoliensis[13][36][37] and V. osmolskae.[14]
Velociraptor antirrhopus is what they originally called deinonychus
>"Velociraptor," Alan Grant said, in a low voice. >"Velociraptor mongoliensis," Wu said, nodding. "A predator. This one's only six weeks old." >"| just excavated a raptor," Grant said, as he bent down for a closer look. Immediately the little lizard sprang up, leaping over Grant's head into Tim's arms
While deinonychus was also referred to as velociraptor antirrhopus when Crichton was writing it, they specifically refer to the raptors as mongoliensis in the book.
They make a specific distinction between them elsewhere. It's very clear the animals on the island are not meant to be antirrhopus.
>Ellie said, "But the animal we just saw, the velociraptor-you said it was a mongoliensis?" >"From the location of the amber," Wu said. "It it is from China." >"Interesting," Grant said. "| was just digging up an infant antirrhopus. Are there any full-grown raptors here?"
that's not what the article's saying. They are just saying that there's enough variation to have 3 separate species. Like, Polar Bears, Brown Bears and Grizzly Bears.
Complete fossils don't exist. It's always artistic to create a fossil. Species are invented by paleontologists. Those are all lies.dinosaurs are the lie that excites children. all dinosaurs are fake. there was nothing and then someone went for a walk. They summoned the bones and rocks out of the dirt. if you keep looking at the places where people find lies (They summon things underground too). those summoners are paleontologists. keep in mind they don't have minds or souls. they find rocks and bullshit down there that have different shapes. when shit dies, new rocks don’t grow on top of things, thats not the way it works. if you leave a car on the highway it’ll stay on the highway forever.
it won’t grow 100 feet or anything feet on top of it. Dirt doesn’t come out of nothing. they find these bones. They never find a complete fossil. they never find instructions for putting those bones back together.
Based Smithsonian.
My wife saw that new Bridgerton spin off show and then read a news article about how the Queen Charlotte character may have actually been black in real life. I showed her a Smithsonian article that #debooonked the whole thing
As far as I know, there is still active back and forth debate over that specifically. But you are correct in a sense.
The Colorado Front Range in the late Cretaceous was essentially just a bayou running north-south along the feet of the Rockies and both T-Rex and Triceratops horridus are known to have lived there. So T-Rex was likely prowling around in knee-high waters over there.
That sounds like it would just make the T-rex more likely to tip over since it would be walking on mushy beds and pushing its legs through water instead of air.
>Too Big To Walk
The only way T-Rex makes sense is as a water wader, and it makes a lot of sense.
He never walked, let alone sprinted around, on land.
Rex skeletons are found in mountain ranges, bro. Unless the carcasses are getting dragged up there by scavengers, those things could move on land just fine.
You never passed grade 7 physics if you think that thing can walk unsupported by buoyancy.
It is thought that the small arms are something of a flipper to dig itself out of muddy marshy swampy areas. You tell me why he has the tiny arms.
There was a lot more water around, the scale of many of these dinosaurs makes it absolutely impossible that they walked on land.
The book is on my shelf and it is called >Too Big To Walk
This picture is not from it but you get the idea.
>You never passed grade 7 physics if you think that thing can walk unsupported by buoyancy.
They weigh as much as an elephant, you gigantic fricking moron. Go ask your 7th grade physics teacher why he taught you that elephants can't exist, dumbfrick.
You never passed grade 7 physics if you think that thing can walk unsupported by buoyancy.
It is thought that the small arms are something of a flipper to dig itself out of muddy marshy swampy areas. You tell me why he has the tiny arms.
There was a lot more water around, the scale of many of these dinosaurs makes it absolutely impossible that they walked on land.
The book is on my shelf and it is called >Too Big To Walk
This picture is not from it but you get the idea.
When you realize that basically all of the big ticket mega museum scale dinosaurs were essentially sea creatures they suddenly become legitimate.
I guess they don't make for compelling movie monsters but the sight of T-Rex chasing a jeep at 60mph on foot was always absurd.
The estimated weight of a T Rex was as much as 9 tons, and African elephants can get bigger than that as well as run as fast as 25 mph. Why is it unbelievable that a lighter creature would be land dwelling?
Because the physical laws of nature demand it.
Look at this picture, it is an artists rendition of what is believed to be the largest dinosaur that ever existed.
The head alone weighs something like the weight of a minivan, at the end of a 100 meter neck? There is no way this thing was anything other than a water wader where the waterline came right up to underneath his chin.
They simply could not have supported the weight of their own heads and necks.
Too Big To Walk. Say it with me brother.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So this thing spent the majority of its life unable to see its potential predators swimming around it?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>largest dinosaur >predators
in any case how would that be any different if it was on land? >So this thing spent the majority of its life unable to see its potential predators walking around it?
dude an asteroid killed them all, an asteroid that added mass to the earth and created the moon
obviously the earth was smaller with less mass and less gravity when dinosaurs were around so they could be bigger no problem
read a fricking book before talking shit
I did read the book, it's called Too Big To Walk
And they really were too big to walk.
3 months ago
Anonymous
dude an asteroid killed them all, an asteroid that added mass to the earth and created the moon
obviously the earth was smaller with less mass and less gravity when dinosaurs were around so they could be bigger no problem
read a fricking book before talking shit
3 months ago
Anonymous
I read the Koran. They're not in it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You read israeli literature?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Stupid Black person, everyone knows space is fake and gay. And if it weren't fake and gay, we'd already know that the moon was created when the earth was still a ball of molten plasma, and said ball collided with another, smaller, molten ball of plasma that crossed in to it's orbit. And the collision shot some of the larger ball out around the main mass, that got locked in it's gravity and eventually formed a ball before cooling and solidifying.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>dude an asteroid killed them all, an asteroid that added mass to the earth and created the moon
Can you prove any of this or is it just a guess
3 months ago
Anonymous
It was revealed to me in a dream
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm asking about the T Rex specifically since you made a post about it before. I can understand the argument with regard to behemoths like the Barosaurus.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's the same deal. His head is disproportionately large.
Remember it's not until quite recently that they used to present T-Rex in an upright configuration in all museums but it is almost universally agreed now that this could not be the case and he takes the lower form.
They used to present him like this because it was quite obvious that the massive head had to be somewhat in line with center of mass.
When the leap was made to accurately present the skeletons the accompanying leap in thinking about his habitat was not immediate, t-rex was in the cultural zeitgeist as a monster of the earth and there was a big lag in adjusting to this. A movie like Jurassic park just added to this lag by another couple of decades.
How long can you hold a 5kg weight at the end of your extended arm for? T-Rex had to do that all day every day for his entire life, no he didn't because he was a water wader obviously.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>but it is almost universally agreed now that this could not be the case and he takes the lower form.
Let me take a swat at modern science:
What modern animal balances itself like this?
3 months ago
Anonymous
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Got to go to bed friend.
Recommended reading here. The field of paleontology was the wild west when they first got going, basically treasure hunters who would race around the world finding bones from all over the place and assemble crazy creatures out of them, far more art than science, more carny than anything.
Alot of it is destroyed forever because of such folly.
But above all.
Too Big To Walk. I depart.
Because the physical laws of nature demand it.
Look at this picture, it is an artists rendition of what is believed to be the largest dinosaur that ever existed.
The head alone weighs something like the weight of a minivan, at the end of a 100 meter neck? There is no way this thing was anything other than a water wader where the waterline came right up to underneath his chin.
They simply could not have supported the weight of their own heads and necks.
Too Big To Walk. Say it with me brother.
>look at these big chunky legs the animal evolved to barely use
I'm asking about the T Rex specifically since you made a post about it before. I can understand the argument with regard to behemoths like the Barosaurus.
It's the same deal. His head is disproportionately large.
Remember it's not until quite recently that they used to present T-Rex in an upright configuration in all museums but it is almost universally agreed now that this could not be the case and he takes the lower form.
They used to present him like this because it was quite obvious that the massive head had to be somewhat in line with center of mass.
When the leap was made to accurately present the skeletons the accompanying leap in thinking about his habitat was not immediate, t-rex was in the cultural zeitgeist as a monster of the earth and there was a big lag in adjusting to this. A movie like Jurassic park just added to this lag by another couple of decades.
How long can you hold a 5kg weight at the end of your extended arm for? T-Rex had to do that all day every day for his entire life, no he didn't because he was a water wader obviously.
Got to go to bed friend.
Recommended reading here. The field of paleontology was the wild west when they first got going, basically treasure hunters who would race around the world finding bones from all over the place and assemble crazy creatures out of them, far more art than science, more carny than anything.
Alot of it is destroyed forever because of such folly.
But above all.
Too Big To Walk. I depart.
3 months ago
Anonymous
refer to
palentology is a meme
all you're doing is try to guess what animlas once existed with only a few rocks as evidence. not even a real skeleton. it's impossible to get accurate results and will never never get accurate results
let's take for example a pig skeleton. people would think that pigs were carnivorous creatures that are similar to wolfs but in real life pigs are fat . if you look at their neck and back legs they're nothing like their skeleton. the neckbone of pigs is 3 times the size of their neck bone. and than you have all the problems with animals that don't have skeletons or have different bones weaker/smaller and there's alot of body structures that can't be fossilized like hair and feathers. for all you know dinosaurs could had hair or they could had giant tentacle limbs without bones which is ridiculous but is very much possible since you can't find any evidence to disprove or prove this statement. squid in particular could be anything ancient squid could have 20 ink glands just because i said so
for all you could know. dinosaurs could had gigantic muscles. twice the size of their skeleton and many animals today have bodies made of muscles not a single fat cell in sight. or they just had superior anatomy and cell structure so muscles were simply better. you can never know this. keep in mind chimpanzees are the same size of you or even smaller but they can kill three humans alone. they can rip all your limbs off without even trying
3 months ago
Anonymous
the chimp/human thing is pretty easy to see for a paleontologist by the way
limb structure and muscle attachments would highlight the difference
Chimp muscles are designed for grasping, sustained pressure, given their arboreal lifestyle
Human muscles and arms are however optimized for explosive strength, specifically for throwing objects
So yes you put a human already in melee with a chimp, they'll lose, because you're denying the human their entire advantage
Now put a rock on that human's hand, make him an experienced hunter, and start them at 100ft away from each other? That chimp is dead
Science should absolutely be magic when it doesn't have an answer, because why not?
I rather fill the empty space on that book with rad cool shit than just plain saying "we don't know yet maybe one day we'll know or not, so don't think about it"
That was the old way, and it was the best way >What's that explotion on the sky? >It's fricking Zeus throwing thunderbolts son
>actually dinosaurs were all peaceful herbivore lgbtq+ refugees welcome blm size of a parakeet drag queen story hour 2 gay dads with wings and they ate nuts and seeds you bigot chud
Why are trannies so antagonistic? Literally only reason anyone hates them because they spam troony porn everywhere and molest children in public schools.
Tyrannosaurus Rex would still exist, but at least two of the specimens may have been misclassified, and were likely to be Tyrannosaurus mcraeensis and maybe Tarbosaurus, or possibly another yet unnamed Tyrannosaurus species.
But T Rex will still exist.
So science fricked up again heh? At what point are these guys gonna admit they're just making shit up as they go along? At least Jesus hasn't changed in the last 2000 years.
>At least Jesus hasn't changed in the last 2000 years.
Is that why there have literally been 20000 years of conflict about what he meant by anything he said?
I strongly doubt any 'debunking' claim made about any of the sciences past discoveries.
It took until the discovery of the DNA sequences for anthropology to admit again that, yes, we can identify the current populations with the people that inhabited european nations in the far past and that it wasn't all just nazi lies.
If you knew what a cougar looked and acted like you could make very simple assumptions on what an unknown wildcat looked and acted like based purely off of a few teeth and a shoulder blade.
I miss times when there was mystery to the world and to history. Now everything is autistically and mathematically calculated and catalogued. Sorta like how video games stop being fun when a meta forms and everyone just does the same shit.
I hate evolution
It's like a non-issue somewhat made into a theory of nothing, absolutely circular and railroaded >If you eat a burger and you shit it later, it's Emburtoosion, and if you don't... it's not.
ok?
>Earth used to have much, much higher oxygen content and hotter climate >as the Earth cooled and oxygen content lowered animals either needed to evolve to become smaller with ways to stay warm or die
Yes. That picture is exactly correct. A chicken is a more efficient lifeform for its environment than a T-Rex. In fact, a dinosaur would likely suffocate to death today if we somehow brought one back.
During the age of the dinosaurs, the Earth was mostly very hot and humid. Then it cooled and went into an ice age. We are currently in a warming period that will soon, relatively speaking, lead back into another ice age. As paradoxical as that might sound.
>We are currently in a warming period that will soon, relatively speaking, lead back into another ice age. As paradoxical as that might sound.
There is snow and ice on the poles, we're in a cold period.
Yeah, and it's been gradually melting every year. You're not thinking in large enough spans of time.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Yeah, and it's been gradually melting every year.
See
During the age of the dinosaurs, the Earth was mostly very hot and humid. Then it cooled and went into an ice age. We are currently in a warming period that will soon, relatively speaking, lead back into another ice age. As paradoxical as that might sound.
>We are currently in a warming period that will soon, relatively speaking, lead back into another ice age
We're currently in an ice age, leading towards a warm period.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You mean we are currently in winter and about to enter spring. This happens every year, lefty.
you forget that dinosaurs were wiped out by a mass extinction event. Chickens and other avians are not direct descendants of dinosaurs just the closest related still living animals
A T-rex would be weak and useless now because he'd die of hypoxia as soon as you'd teleport him here from 66mil years ago. The massive loss of oxygen in the atmosphere and the 2 million years circa of food scarcity and massive destruction made the chicken the stronger biological creature to survive. That's how "evolution" works.
It's BEST SUITED FOR SURIVIVAL.
Not STRONGEST and cooler.
Yes I know, it's cringe and gay but this is the reality the Demiurge wanted.
They are going to bring this idea out now that maybe all of the skeletons that we have from "millions of years ago" were, maybe, just bits and pieces of other dinosaurs. Creationists brought this idea up concerning supposed neaderthal bones years ago and the s o y scientists and their sheep defended those bones like they were holy relics but now it's okay to speculate about bones because the idea that we are all just the product of spontaneous reactions from out of nowhere has degraded the minds of the people to the point that no one really cares about anything anymore.
People staked their eternal souls on the "science backed" origin of those freakin' bones and now it's going to come out about how the science was actually wrong.
"This bone right here was found in the crotch region of that adult female neanderthal skeleton over there" >With this new piece of breakthrough evidence we can conclude that, yes, we finally have the proof that we need to declare that transgenderism is a biologically sound position." >We'd also like to thank the Soros foundation for their generous grant that made this discovery possible.
I happen to like inaccurate dinosaurs, especially when Jurassic Park likes to do that thing where a dinosaur looks like a primeval ancestor of today's reptiles with familiar traits.
>chuds will look at this and think >WOW WHAT A COOL BEAST IT MUST HAVE BEEN, IT PROBABLY BREETHED FIRE AND RULED THE PLAINS, WHAT A MASCULIN INTEREST THIS TURNED OUT TO BE >and then it turns out be a beluga whale's, the fat homosexuals of the ocean
I 100% believe most dinosaur depictions are wrong as frick, they were very likely overgrown birds
Ask a r*dditor why those fossils would be so far underground and they'll go insane. Seriously, why would like 10 metres of dirt grow on every single dead dinosaur?
what do millions of years have to do with it. explain to me why everything that was above ground back then is underground now. where did all that extra soil come from?
why is all old stuff underground then? and not just skeletons of creatures that were supposedly around millions of years ago, even cities from hundreds or thousands years ago are all mysteriously covered under tons of soil. Why can nobody just explain what the frick happened there?
Do you think all the people who think space is fake and dinosaurs aren't real are
A)shitskin morons
B)trolling
C)white christian morons
D)israeli psyop
Always has been. Reread the book.
Those are not necessarily the accurate dinos, but the closest thing to what Wu and his group ASSUMED were what the dinos looked like.
Big difference.
Crichton made the book advancement-proof, which is quite remarkable.
>clickbait title >don't even need to read the article to know that it will boil down to, "Uhm, ackshually, the t-rex was a genus, and there are ackshually different species of t-rex that all looked very similar but had minor regional differences."
The source coming from IGN and being intentionally vague confirms it's just shovelware nonsense like everything else IGN covers. This thread alone proves theres a draw for these kinds of antics though.
IGN being a fricking gaming news source rather than a legitimate publication (lol, as if non biased bs exists nowadays anyways) should already be a red flag, yeah. But I went and looked up this entire thing and it did indeed boil down to one gay claiming that t-rex was a species and that there should be two additional ones added, except all the "research" the guy did on the specimens was botched and done incorrectly in ways made to favor the multi-species hypothesis. So then multiple other paleontologists come in, point out that his methodology was wrong and he was just spouting shit, and causing people to re-examine the specimens actually showed that the t-rex actually LACKED diversity vs. other dinosaur species. Guy comes back and doesn't refute any of the corrections, but instead says, "Well the t-rex is too universally loved and that's why people won't even be willing to accept new ideas about it!" And that's laughable, given that basically everyone now accepts that the t-rex models we came up with in the 90s are wrong, and that the t-rex had a lot more fat/tissue around it's body, and that it had "lips" that covered it's teeth, rather than them being visible a la JP rex or crocodilians. Last I checked, people also agreed that the t-rex may have had very fine protofeathers as a hatchling/juvenile. I mean shit, we found out via such a well preserved triceratops specimen that that species actually had quills along it's back.
>T-Rex's legs were too weak to run, it could only walk at extremely low speeds >Due to the weight of its skull and its weak muscles, the T-Rex could hardly open its jaw. It could not hunt and had to eat soft food, mostly small fish and fresh meat >Scientists consider the T-Rex to be "the weakest and most pathetic animal to ever exist"
Continental drift is a thing. Anywhere you see mountains it's cause two tectonic plates beneath the surface slammed into each other and pushed up the land above them. So if you look at all the mountain ranges stitched across the continents, you can see where a bunch of smaller plates have glommed together to make larger landmasses. Plates also drift apart, though, and when that happens it causes huge rifts. It's currently happening in Eastern Africa, actually. There's a massive rift valley that runs for hundreds of miles through Kenya and Ethiopia where these plates are pulling apart.
The Trex was an aquatic beast >barely any arms, useless >huge legs good for swimming >if on land would be slow af, making catching prey impossible >too big to walk
It was a huge sea predator that sometimes stepped on land to lay eggs
Let me take a swat at this:
1. Aquatic biped?
2. Look at the thickness of the Rex's femur and compare it to, say, an ostrich. Femurs thicken up under weight borne. T-rex legs bore the weight of the animal.
>Aquatic biped?
Evolution and stuff >Look at the thickness of the Rex's femur and compare it to, say, an ostrich. Femurs thicken up under weight borne. T-rex legs bore the weight of the animal
They're just right for it to be able to hold its own weight on land for short periods of time to crap eggs AND to do full time swimming
>Old T-rex
Slow half-blind scavenger, dimwitted, would probably get outsmarted by a chicken
>Modern T-rex
Fast, agile apex predator, highly intelligent, telescopic vision superior to that of an eagle, would have killed everyone in JP1 without breaking a sweat
But It must be DA JOOZ emasculating dinosaurs right?
>Old Sauropods
Couldn't leave the water and support it's weight, dragged a useless fat tail behind it, moves at glacial speed
>Modern Sauropods
Confidently strides on land migrating all over the world, tail is a supersonic whip capable of cutting a grown man in half without even trying
Surely the paleontologist must be on a grand mission to make dinosaurs lame right?
Its true. The universe is electric.
The speed of light has been 'slowing down,' reaching a 'plateau' (c~c) around 2345 BC. Most dinosaurs were wiped out between 3000-2600 BC, atomic age being about 65 mya in 3000 BC
>thread full of morons spouting the most outlandish moronic gayshit at eachother in a desperate bid to outhomosexual eachother for reasons unknown >any actual attempts at legitimate discussion immediately get drowned out in aforementioned hyperhomosexualry
This website was destroyed intentionally and these homosexuals are the ones that are convinced how they act is how everyone here always acted. Useful broccoli headed morons. Never an original thought nor an original emotion. Completely preprogrammed like a frickin TV remote.
It's just useless shitskins, failed manchildren millennials and negrified zoomers who inhabit this site now. You're better off going elsewhere if you want discussion.
Your family collage is irrelevant to this thread. Forget the 65 Million.
3 months ago
Anonymous
If the Holocaust is fake then all Hitler did was kill tens of millions of whites and zero israelites. What a hero of the white race.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Well he's a quarter israelite, so yeah
3 months ago
Anonymous
According to white nationalists, israelites are hyper competent literal demigods so why even bother fighting them? Literally everything that happened, ever was israeli, goyim are npc non-agents.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>these are the people i'm posting with
wtf do you guys really look like this?
Jurassic Park but it's only giant avians.
Jurassic Park but it's only the cretaceous period.
Jurassic Park but you find out about the Reptilian breeding experiments and the wars with the Procyons I've said too much
that headline was from 2 years ago and ended up being ignored by the scientific community. do you seriously have nothing better do you with your life than repost twitter-screenshot outrage-bait every day?
I'm so fricking tired of israelites attacking traditional dinosaurs.
>it had feathers and was a scavenger and was probably gay and had 2 dads
>actually whatever it wasn't even real you fricking chuds!
what the frick are our kids going to do without traditional, masculine dinosaur role models
>it's da joos
kys chud
>seething israelitebots can't into humor
lolmao
he said israelites, not israelites/joos.
israelite.
yeah. It's actually pieces of shit like you
Look it's up to you to teach your kids the truth of things, like how there's a 9th planet called Pluto
Yeah, it's messed up.
>like how there's a 9th planet called Pluto
Checked. Of all the reasons to hate Neil Degrasse Tyson, him going "UMM ACKSHYUALLY" about Pluto was the most egregious to me, and I will never forgive his black ass for that.
>I'm so fricking tired of israelites
Same
>turning dinosaurs into a political thing
Get a grip
Remember the 65 million
Science is a political thing, because the choices scientists make in what to study is based on funding.
Choosing popular subjects even if you don't have a leg to stand on gets you funding and publicity, which can be springboarded into the next study. That's why even after 122 years we still haven't progressed past redefining T-Rex.
The anon is wrong in that it's not so much a targeted attack as much as careless self-interest. They want to be part of popular history and make a name for themselves, and if that requires radically changing the perception of some dinosaur then so be it.
>They want to be part of popular history and make a name for themselves
Basically this, if you're not pulling in the grant gibs the universities that these types of scientists rely on aren't interested in you, and the wrong types of conclusions (or boring conclusions) don't keep the tap open.
The only other option for them is the private sector but they, as Ray Stantz said, expect results.
>every 2 years palentology is wrong and has an update about something
>climate science has never been and never will be wrong though every single scientist agrees
trillions must pay and billions must die, for science!
palentology is a meme
all you're doing is try to guess what animlas once existed with only a few rocks as evidence. not even a real skeleton. it's impossible to get accurate results and will never never get accurate results
let's take for example a pig skeleton. people would think that pigs were carnivorous creatures that are similar to wolfs but in real life pigs are fat . if you look at their neck and back legs they're nothing like their skeleton. the neckbone of pigs is 3 times the size of their neck bone. and than you have all the problems with animals that don't have skeletons or have different bones weaker/smaller and there's alot of body structures that can't be fossilized like hair and feathers. for all you know dinosaurs could had hair or they could had giant tentacle limbs without bones which is ridiculous but is very much possible since you can't find any evidence to disprove or prove this statement. squid in particular could be anything ancient squid could have 20 ink glands just because i said so
wild hogs are significantly leaner than domestic pigs and that's the natural state of the species (pigs literally turn into wild hogs if left in the wild)
that's like going "hah paleontologists wouldn't expect humans to carry around 100lbs of pure fat and have enormous bellies" when in fact that's no the natural state for humans, that's just american degeneracy
pigs also have significant omnivorous traits that are readily apparent just from their dentures and attachment of their abdominal muscles
maybe paleontologists would think hogs engaged in some degree of active predation, but they would be split on it being opportunistic or not, which again, is pretty accurate because hogs stumbling upon weakened animals they can catch will absolutely fricking eat them
t. “men are women, it’s science”
It's precisely through the avenues of science via biology, physiology, and taxonomy that you can definitively showcase that sexual dimorphism is a reality. It's not until you philosophize metaphysically about what the essence of womanhood is that trannies become validated.
>no /misc/tard is touching this
lel
an anon says being a troony is essentially a semantics argument and you see this as a point in your favor?
>pivots to trannies
sasuga
but i thought everything was political. that's what your buddies say
>Not getting an obvious joke
The absolute state of modern anons.
>turns science political
don't start fights you can't win, israelite.
Dinosaurs are literally made the frick up by israelites, you dumb homosexual.
israelite take detected. I bet you think ~~*satan*~~ put them there and we live on a ~~*flat*~~ earth. All fundamental to the israeli worldview.
Jews know the dinosaurs are real and conflict with the rabbinical worldview and cannot refute the physical evidence and blood memory of every Aryan so they instead poison the well and deceive our children into thinking that theropods are all big gay chickens.
>traditional masculine dinosaur role models
Fricking lmao, top tier satire
Just because it's speculative does not make it a joke or wrong. Plenty of fossils have been discovered with feather imprints, so that's just factual at this point. We really know nothing about what they looked like of how they behaved and probably never will though.
I speculate that your belly is filled with semen, therefore it is true.
>israelites attacking traditional dinosaurs
Science doesn't care about headcanon. What you want are digimons.
>facts hurt your feelings
>IT'S DA JOOOZ
every fricking time
> Those are "Facts"!
>The basedance is settled!
>You can't argue with the basedance!
I still believe that what we're witnessing with the wild change of dinosaurs in pop culture is the result of a bunch of rexgays getting asshurt at Jurassic Park III as kids.
And a lot of those same rexgays happen to be lefty feathergays that like to suck off China.
spinocucks are the real cancer killing the dinosaur community. your oversized crocodile couldn't beat a t-rex ever. Only Jurassic Park I and II are canon to real dinosaurs, 3 is a fanfic not based on real science.
Nobody actually believes a Spinosaurus could kill a T. Rex, it was just a cool fight in a movie between two cool looking giant frogs made to look like dinosaurs.
Thank you for proving my point about asshurt rexgays though.
The Spino was like twice the size though
You are most likely joking and the fact I can't tell means is proof that violence against the right wing is a necessity for any society.
Go back to your TranniesAgianstFascism discord server and tell your commie admins that you are ceasing operations here because you are too stupid to remain incognito long enough to sow any division.
You must be literally moronic, probably from those hormone replacement pills.
Wanting to see the mentally unwell exterminated or removed form society is the ideal we should follow. I would happily cancel pride month forever if we could replace it with a total genocide of your kind.
I’ll meet you at the time and place of your choosing if you want to give it a shot.
You mean you're so far gone you've collapsed reality and ironic characterization/demonization of your political "opponents"? And you think that's a problem caused by them and not you and your programmers?
>because I am socially inept... violence
I think I've seen this episode before.
Edgy
Even in Jurassic park 1 Allan Grant says that these dinos might have feathers on their bodies since their are prehistoric ancestors of chickens, but I get what you mean. I dont mind the new dino designs, but I agree that they are cucked as fricked compared to the old dino designs
Stop being a baby about dead birds.
10/10 regardless of irony
Maybe they should stop doing things that annoy people then.
Scientists have no fricking idea what they're doing with dinosaurs. It's been proven that they entered a few creatures into the record when they were erroneous reconstructions of skeletons, made up of multiple creatures because they thought the bones fit well together. They don't know if they had feathers, warm blood, cold blood, scales, leather skin, what color they were, they can only guess at the noises. It fricking goes on. Dinosaurs are the most "Plato's Cave" fricking thing in the 20th century, right next to the moon landing.
Is that the name of the cave Kubrick filmed in?
No, that was Eyes Wide Shut. One cave, one take. Remember the 22 minutes!!!
Greeks. Orgies. Makes sense.
>Plato's Cave thing
>Plato's Cave: The story of prisoners trapped in a cave, only able to see shadowy images cast against the wall in front of them by unseen people holding up objects behind them, was meant to represent the manner in which most people, relying only on their immediate senses, could understand only a little of the nature of reality.
Are you suggesting that the moon landing was an issue of perception? Are you insane or high on farts? You're talking like a first grade philosophy-gay, frick off.
Incredibly based
As somebody who once pursued paleontlogy, this isn't far from the truth
>traditional, masculine dinosaur role models
Like 10 people took your post seriously, holy shit
Yeah! And let's bring back the original Stegosaurus while we're at it.
What's the difference between the last two versions? It just looks like he stopped hunching his back/neck and got a new paint job
My homie!! Frick gay-ass feather dinosaurs. Science is gay as frick
If you are referring to the theropod T. rex, it is very likely that it was no stranger to scavenging. A body of that size, with jaws that powerful, would be able to destroy a cadaver and devour whatever was too tough for other animals to consume. Again, it's size would make it unable to skip an available meal, and it was therefore likely both an active hunter as well as a scavenger (like a hyena, but relying instead on the power of one indivual rather than a pack).
Their size would allow them to go after prey that for other creatures would be too large to fell, but this of course comes with a high risk/high reward. Take the famous sauropods, for example. Their life strategy was to become so big so that no one would dare attack them. Adults would be at risk if sick, injured, or too old, and juveniles would at different ages be a different type of prey item for carnivores according to size. T. rex could therefore increase its general odds against larger prey items, while lessening competition.
As for the feathers. T. rex is currently not believed to be fully feathered. This is based on skin imprints from around the body of a fossil. The feathers in general varied from species to species, and had different functions.
Though, I agree, there was a tendency to over feather everything for a period, due to the confirmation of some being feathered, but it has calmed down now.
Trust the fricking science
premium bait
>traditional, masculine dinosaur role models
>movie franchise literally made by a gigajew
>IT'S DA JOOOOOOS
/misc/ and schizophrenia, name a more iconic duo
Excellent bait, sir. You almost had me.
>Dinosaurs are political issues
How does it feel to be so infantile? Your goo-goo-gaga incomprehensible bullshit is slithering out of your pie-hole like diarrhea out of a mutt, which I suspect you are too.
King.
FJFJ
Hmm
You did it, you crazy son of a b***h.
Paleontology has always been a joke science. They're no further along with actually knowing anything than they were when they thought all the big dinosaurs must've been mostly water dwelling because of their size.
Every animal we see now was probably just 10x bigger. The whole thing with dinosaurs being chickens. They were probably literally just 40ft chickens walking about. Then earth got shitter and fricked biology up.
Basically accepted as fact. Earth used to have more oxygen in the atmosphere so lots of terrestrial animals could be larger.
they gave paleontologists skeletons of real animals and asked them to reconstruct what they look like, and this was the result.
No, that was a non-paleontologist demonstrating the concept of shrinkwrapping.
It was paleo artist Darren Naish, I believe. It only further prooves the point that we are closer to understanding them when applying the law of uniformitarianism, and treating them like the animals that they were rather than fantastical monsters
These animals are what the israelites took from us with their woke seams and tubby hippos.
>tubby hippos.
>tubby
>hippo
Those things are almost all muscle.
Me on the top left.
For example if you had a human skeleton they'd never think to draw a 600lb amerilard
Let's be honest, baboon is as accurate as it needs to be.
This phenomenon is reffered to by the paleo community as "shrink wrapping", and it's ghey. It started out his way when paleontology was first beginning to bloom, and among the findings they found remnants of crocodylomorphs from the same era. Given how the skull of a crocodile looks, people just assumed that the same rule applied to these seemingly lizardlike bones.
The baboon commands respect
>Shows blatantly false, mocking method of shrink-wrapping technique
>Purports this as true
Goddamn are you a moronic ass Black person
>They're no further along with actually knowing anything than they were when they thought all the big dinosaurs must've been mostly water dwelling because of their size.
what a load of shit, they know tons of stuff that they didn't even 10 years ago
*They've made up tons of shit that hadn't been made up before
no
Yes
ah yes they found out that they all had feathers and could change their gender
>single study from 2022
>widely rejected by experts in the field as complete nonsense
>media randomly reposting it in 2024 anyways for easy outrage clicks
Classic
Your whole perception of paleontology is warped by highly irresponsible journalism that portrays active debate and growing understand as if they were just waffling back and forth between conflicting ideas.
The real joke is science journalists.
No, these are mock examples critiquing past methods and mistakes when portraying dinosaurs, the "Shrink-wrapping" effect. Because of the pushback to these mistakes, T-Rex these days is usually portrayed as slightly more chunky and muscular than it used to be in media like JP.
wasn't there more O2 in the atmosphere at the time allowing for megafauna? That is something that can be actually tested for, unlike most paleontology. ice core samples have air in them
You are correct in there being a gargantuan amount of missing information. Pay in mind, that paleontology as a field of study is relatively young, as well as inherently hard to study due to the remnants of the former inhabitants of the earths mostly are comprizes of lithified remains. You are proposing a hypothesis, written by a phycisicist called Brian J Ford who figured that dinosaurs (and especially sauropods) died out due to them being unable to reproduce without large bodies of water (unironically called the sex lake theory). Ford did not have all the data, however, and his theory is one of the less plausible. Thought water might have been utilized in their lifestyle, it doesn't really correlate with the findings. The issue of reproduction can be solved by specialized genitalia. The density of the bones imply being able to bear massive weight, and are indicative of a terrestrial animal (but with possibly comfortable in water. There are lovely footprints from sauropods, indicating that they could swim, kind of, but only if they could reach the bottom with their front feet.
>mostly water dwelling because of their size.
ixnay on the whalebonesscamnay, bro!
Reminder that velociraptors were actually not much bigger than chickens.
the ones in Jurassic park were based on Utahraptors, they just used 'velociraptor' because it obviously sounds a hundred times cooler
I believe the Utahraptor wasn't even announced when JP came out, they just took Velociraptors and made them bigger, and then paleontologists actually found the Utahraptor
no, they're deinonychus
both in the novel and film
>Crichton met with the discoverer of Deinonychus, John Ostrom, several times at Yale University to discuss details of the animal's possible range of behaviors and appearance. Crichton at one point apologetically told Ostrom that he had decided to use the name Velociraptor in place of Deinonychus because the former name was "more dramatic." According to Ostrom, Crichton stated that the Velociraptor of the novel was based on Deinonychus in almost every detail, and that only the name had been changed. The Jurassic Park filmmakers also requested all of Ostrom's published papers on Deinonychus during production.[66] They portrayed the animals with the size, proportions, and snout shape of Deinonychus rather than Velociraptor.[67][68]
>In the past, other dromaeosaurid species, including Deinonychus antirrhopus and Saurornitholestes langstoni, have sometimes been classified in the genus Velociraptor. Since Velociraptor was the first to be named, these species were renamed Velociraptor antirrhopus and V. langstoni.[21] As of 2008, the only currently recognized species of Velociraptor are V. mongoliensis[13][36][37] and V. osmolskae.[14]
Velociraptor antirrhopus is what they originally called deinonychus
Nope.
>"Velociraptor," Alan Grant said, in a low voice.
>"Velociraptor mongoliensis," Wu said, nodding. "A predator. This one's only six weeks old."
>"| just excavated a raptor," Grant said, as he bent down for a closer look. Immediately the little lizard sprang up, leaping over Grant's head into Tim's arms
Crichton changed the name because he thought "swift thief" sounded more threatening than "terrible claw"
also they didn't want to have pay royalties to the state of utah
so? the raptors in JP are supposed to be deinonychus
and there are raptors that were as big as JP raptors
While deinonychus was also referred to as velociraptor antirrhopus when Crichton was writing it, they specifically refer to the raptors as mongoliensis in the book.
lmao I swear you are just making those dumb words up on the spot
>they specifically refer to the raptors as mongoliensis in the book.
how do you know this wasn't done by the publisher?
They make a specific distinction between them elsewhere. It's very clear the animals on the island are not meant to be antirrhopus.
>Ellie said, "But the animal we just saw, the velociraptor-you said it was a mongoliensis?"
>"From the location of the amber," Wu said. "It it is from China."
>"Interesting," Grant said. "| was just digging up an infant antirrhopus. Are there any full-grown raptors here?"
it would have made for a very different movie
>B-BU_BUBUT
that's not what the article's saying. They are just saying that there's enough variation to have 3 separate species. Like, Polar Bears, Brown Bears and Grizzly Bears.
>Researchers say there may be more than one type of bear.
Next they'll be saying T-Rex shit in the woods.
They shat while in water, actually
>trust the science chud
evolution is a lie and the earth is 6000 years old
that's what the machines want you to believe, coz they do not know.
not sure about 6000, but I do agree that evolution makes little sense and carbon dating is flawed
Complete fossils don't exist. It's always artistic to create a fossil. Species are invented by paleontologists. Those are all lies.dinosaurs are the lie that excites children. all dinosaurs are fake. there was nothing and then someone went for a walk. They summoned the bones and rocks out of the dirt. if you keep looking at the places where people find lies (They summon things underground too). those summoners are paleontologists. keep in mind they don't have minds or souls. they find rocks and bullshit down there that have different shapes. when shit dies, new rocks don’t grow on top of things, thats not the way it works. if you leave a car on the highway it’ll stay on the highway forever.
it won’t grow 100 feet or anything feet on top of it. Dirt doesn’t come out of nothing. they find these bones. They never find a complete fossil. they never find instructions for putting those bones back together.
meds
why would god set earth in a way that makes it look billions of years old when its actually just 6000?
the current year is 7532 from the creation of the world
Golbekli Tepe is older than that.
prove it
It was under 11,500 year old dirt that was deposited all at once in a purposeful burial of the site.
>11,500 year old dirt
prove it
No matter what I post you'll just say "prove it" again and again so I'm just going to call you a homosexual instead.
"homosexual."
There, that is the end of the interaction.
Prove it
*shows proof*
>atheist tries to spread homosexualry
many such cases
>he cant prove it
>just blindly believes any claim made by "scientists"
>purposeful burial of the site.
Why purposeful?
Jamie, pull up those images of gorillas fighting dinosaurs
A dinosaur would tear your face off
>have you ever tried elk meat?
>paleontology is speculative field subject to constant revision as we discover new findings
>israeli SUBVERSION
debunked
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/study-refutes-controversial-research-that-divided-the-t-rex-into-three-species-180980477/
why the hell would you dig up a 2022 tweet anyway? trex is real
Based Smithsonian.
My wife saw that new Bridgerton spin off show and then read a news article about how the Queen Charlotte character may have actually been black in real life. I showed her a Smithsonian article that #debooonked the whole thing
>Too Big To Walk
The only way T-Rex makes sense is as a water wader, and it makes a lot of sense.
He never walked, let alone sprinted around, on land.
As far as I know, there is still active back and forth debate over that specifically. But you are correct in a sense.
The Colorado Front Range in the late Cretaceous was essentially just a bayou running north-south along the feet of the Rockies and both T-Rex and Triceratops horridus are known to have lived there. So T-Rex was likely prowling around in knee-high waters over there.
That sounds like it would just make the T-rex more likely to tip over since it would be walking on mushy beds and pushing its legs through water instead of air.
How would it lay eggs if it couldn't go on land?
Rex skeletons are found in mountain ranges, bro. Unless the carcasses are getting dragged up there by scavengers, those things could move on land just fine.
>whale skeletons wash up on shore, therefor whales were land dwelling
That's a naked strawman.
Of course it's naked, skeletons don't have clothing chud
You never passed grade 7 physics if you think that thing can walk unsupported by buoyancy.
It is thought that the small arms are something of a flipper to dig itself out of muddy marshy swampy areas. You tell me why he has the tiny arms.
There was a lot more water around, the scale of many of these dinosaurs makes it absolutely impossible that they walked on land.
The book is on my shelf and it is called
>Too Big To Walk
This picture is not from it but you get the idea.
>You never passed grade 7 physics if you think that thing can walk unsupported by buoyancy.
They weigh as much as an elephant, you gigantic fricking moron. Go ask your 7th grade physics teacher why he taught you that elephants can't exist, dumbfrick.
When you realize that basically all of the big ticket mega museum scale dinosaurs were essentially sea creatures they suddenly become legitimate.
I guess they don't make for compelling movie monsters but the sight of T-Rex chasing a jeep at 60mph on foot was always absurd.
The estimated weight of a T Rex was as much as 9 tons, and African elephants can get bigger than that as well as run as fast as 25 mph. Why is it unbelievable that a lighter creature would be land dwelling?
Because the physical laws of nature demand it.
Look at this picture, it is an artists rendition of what is believed to be the largest dinosaur that ever existed.
The head alone weighs something like the weight of a minivan, at the end of a 100 meter neck? There is no way this thing was anything other than a water wader where the waterline came right up to underneath his chin.
They simply could not have supported the weight of their own heads and necks.
Too Big To Walk. Say it with me brother.
So this thing spent the majority of its life unable to see its potential predators swimming around it?
>largest dinosaur
>predators
in any case how would that be any different if it was on land?
>So this thing spent the majority of its life unable to see its potential predators walking around it?
I did read the book, it's called Too Big To Walk
And they really were too big to walk.
dude an asteroid killed them all, an asteroid that added mass to the earth and created the moon
obviously the earth was smaller with less mass and less gravity when dinosaurs were around so they could be bigger no problem
read a fricking book before talking shit
I read the Koran. They're not in it.
You read israeli literature?
Stupid Black person, everyone knows space is fake and gay. And if it weren't fake and gay, we'd already know that the moon was created when the earth was still a ball of molten plasma, and said ball collided with another, smaller, molten ball of plasma that crossed in to it's orbit. And the collision shot some of the larger ball out around the main mass, that got locked in it's gravity and eventually formed a ball before cooling and solidifying.
>dude an asteroid killed them all, an asteroid that added mass to the earth and created the moon
Can you prove any of this or is it just a guess
It was revealed to me in a dream
I'm asking about the T Rex specifically since you made a post about it before. I can understand the argument with regard to behemoths like the Barosaurus.
It's the same deal. His head is disproportionately large.
Remember it's not until quite recently that they used to present T-Rex in an upright configuration in all museums but it is almost universally agreed now that this could not be the case and he takes the lower form.
They used to present him like this because it was quite obvious that the massive head had to be somewhat in line with center of mass.
When the leap was made to accurately present the skeletons the accompanying leap in thinking about his habitat was not immediate, t-rex was in the cultural zeitgeist as a monster of the earth and there was a big lag in adjusting to this. A movie like Jurassic park just added to this lag by another couple of decades.
How long can you hold a 5kg weight at the end of your extended arm for? T-Rex had to do that all day every day for his entire life, no he didn't because he was a water wader obviously.
>but it is almost universally agreed now that this could not be the case and he takes the lower form.
Let me take a swat at modern science:
What modern animal balances itself like this?
Got to go to bed friend.
Recommended reading here. The field of paleontology was the wild west when they first got going, basically treasure hunters who would race around the world finding bones from all over the place and assemble crazy creatures out of them, far more art than science, more carny than anything.
Alot of it is destroyed forever because of such folly.
But above all.
Too Big To Walk. I depart.
refer to
for all you could know. dinosaurs could had gigantic muscles. twice the size of their skeleton and many animals today have bodies made of muscles not a single fat cell in sight. or they just had superior anatomy and cell structure so muscles were simply better. you can never know this. keep in mind chimpanzees are the same size of you or even smaller but they can kill three humans alone. they can rip all your limbs off without even trying
the chimp/human thing is pretty easy to see for a paleontologist by the way
limb structure and muscle attachments would highlight the difference
Chimp muscles are designed for grasping, sustained pressure, given their arboreal lifestyle
Human muscles and arms are however optimized for explosive strength, specifically for throwing objects
So yes you put a human already in melee with a chimp, they'll lose, because you're denying the human their entire advantage
Now put a rock on that human's hand, make him an experienced hunter, and start them at 100ft away from each other? That chimp is dead
>look at these big chunky legs the animal evolved to barely use
They won't stop taking
>noooo, science should adhere to my childhood feelings
> everything you liked from the past was WRONG LMAO!
> everything we tell you is right
> wait never mind we were wrong too lmao!
Science should absolutely be magic when it doesn't have an answer, because why not?
I rather fill the empty space on that book with rad cool shit than just plain saying "we don't know yet maybe one day we'll know or not, so don't think about it"
That was the old way, and it was the best way
>What's that explotion on the sky?
>It's fricking Zeus throwing thunderbolts son
We need to go back.
>actually dinosaurs were all peaceful herbivore lgbtq+ refugees welcome blm size of a parakeet drag queen story hour 2 gay dads with wings and they ate nuts and seeds you bigot chud
Why are trannies so antagonistic? Literally only reason anyone hates them because they spam troony porn everywhere and molest children in public schools.
Mental illness makes people act crazy, who knew
Will manchildren ever stop seething over dinosaur feathers?
Tyrannosaurus Rex would still exist, but at least two of the specimens may have been misclassified, and were likely to be Tyrannosaurus mcraeensis and maybe Tarbosaurus, or possibly another yet unnamed Tyrannosaurus species.
But T Rex will still exist.
So science fricked up again heh? At what point are these guys gonna admit they're just making shit up as they go along? At least Jesus hasn't changed in the last 2000 years.
He went from white, to big nosed arab, to sub Saharan African, and that is just in my lifetime
>At least Jesus hasn't changed in the last 2000 years.
Is that why there have literally been 20000 years of conflict about what he meant by anything he said?
>T-Rex is now they/them
They will take everything from us until we have nothing.
was it three dinosaurs in a trenchcoat ?
I strongly doubt any 'debunking' claim made about any of the sciences past discoveries.
It took until the discovery of the DNA sequences for anthropology to admit again that, yes, we can identify the current populations with the people that inhabited european nations in the far past and that it wasn't all just nazi lies.
Post images of actual scientifically accurate dinosaurs.
I loved these. They should make a movie.
The pilot sort of was a movie compared to the rest.
>dino wars
My man.
>2024
>still no Turok movie
Not even a fricking Cadillacs & Dinosaurs movie.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0968765/
yeah there is.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101056/
The tv show was still kino.
So according to IGN Allosaurusbro is the new king of the monsters.
the gay little arms are completely ridiculous in my opinion
>schizophrenia real, and you have it
>it’s a ‘palaeontologists somehow extrapolate a dinosaur’s appearance and behaviour from three vertebrae and a jawbone fragment’ episode
If you knew what a cougar looked and acted like you could make very simple assumptions on what an unknown wildcat looked and acted like based purely off of a few teeth and a shoulder blade.
>the same people later: "therefore this creature had feathers and made noises like a parakeet."
I miss times when there was mystery to the world and to history. Now everything is autistically and mathematically calculated and catalogued. Sorta like how video games stop being fun when a meta forms and everyone just does the same shit.
If you breed, you're successful. The end-point of evolution isn't who has the biggest muscles.
>If you breed, you're successful. The end-point of evolution isn't who has the biggest muscles.
Cinemaphile on suicide watch
I hate evolution
It's like a non-issue somewhat made into a theory of nothing, absolutely circular and railroaded
>If you eat a burger and you shit it later, it's Emburtoosion, and if you don't... it's not.
ok?
Doesn't work at all because the first birds arose ~80 million years before T-Rex ever existed.
>Earth used to have much, much higher oxygen content and hotter climate
>as the Earth cooled and oxygen content lowered animals either needed to evolve to become smaller with ways to stay warm or die
Yes. That picture is exactly correct. A chicken is a more efficient lifeform for its environment than a T-Rex. In fact, a dinosaur would likely suffocate to death today if we somehow brought one back.
>Earth cooled
huh? i thought it had heated up. if i remember correctly earth was an iceball once and then with rising co2 levels became warmer.
During the age of the dinosaurs, the Earth was mostly very hot and humid. Then it cooled and went into an ice age. We are currently in a warming period that will soon, relatively speaking, lead back into another ice age. As paradoxical as that might sound.
>We are currently in a warming period that will soon, relatively speaking, lead back into another ice age. As paradoxical as that might sound.
There is snow and ice on the poles, we're in a cold period.
Yeah, and it's been gradually melting every year. You're not thinking in large enough spans of time.
>Yeah, and it's been gradually melting every year.
See
>We are currently in a warming period that will soon, relatively speaking, lead back into another ice age
We're currently in an ice age, leading towards a warm period.
You mean we are currently in winter and about to enter spring. This happens every year, lefty.
you forget that dinosaurs were wiped out by a mass extinction event. Chickens and other avians are not direct descendants of dinosaurs just the closest related still living animals
A T-rex would be weak and useless now because he'd die of hypoxia as soon as you'd teleport him here from 66mil years ago. The massive loss of oxygen in the atmosphere and the 2 million years circa of food scarcity and massive destruction made the chicken the stronger biological creature to survive. That's how "evolution" works.
It's BEST SUITED FOR SURIVIVAL.
Not STRONGEST and cooler.
Yes I know, it's cringe and gay but this is the reality the Demiurge wanted.
Hey So basically I'm just gonna not believe in dinosaurs. I Know..... UGH I know... It's just think they are fake and fake and gay is all. Ha ha
To be fair, the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park are genetic creatures with snake/frog/alligator dna and authentic dinosaurs.
They are going to bring this idea out now that maybe all of the skeletons that we have from "millions of years ago" were, maybe, just bits and pieces of other dinosaurs. Creationists brought this idea up concerning supposed neaderthal bones years ago and the s o y scientists and their sheep defended those bones like they were holy relics but now it's okay to speculate about bones because the idea that we are all just the product of spontaneous reactions from out of nowhere has degraded the minds of the people to the point that no one really cares about anything anymore.
People staked their eternal souls on the "science backed" origin of those freakin' bones and now it's going to come out about how the science was actually wrong.
>Whoops!
>We were wrong guys
>sorry about hell 🙁
you're a frickin moron, dawg
That's a very compelling argument, I'll have to remember it the next time I'm arguing with my kid.
I don't come to Cinemaphile to frickin debate people about dinosaur bones. frick off.
>T-Rex may have been three dinosaurs standing on top of each other to make themselves look like one tall adult dinosaur
Kek.
"This bone right here was found in the crotch region of that adult female neanderthal skeleton over there"
>With this new piece of breakthrough evidence we can conclude that, yes, we finally have the proof that we need to declare that transgenderism is a biologically sound position."
>We'd also like to thank the Soros foundation for their generous grant that made this discovery possible.
>although so far, no fossilized oversized coats and fedoras have been found, putting the theory on standby
I happen to like inaccurate dinosaurs, especially when Jurassic Park likes to do that thing where a dinosaur looks like a primeval ancestor of today's reptiles with familiar traits.
Neat picture but the arms are still way too long
no one cares
>researchers say
>may have actually been
So no proof
>T Rex may have been 3 separate dinosaurs
So all the people that say dinosaurs are fake were right?
>chuds will look at this and think
>WOW WHAT A COOL BEAST IT MUST HAVE BEEN, IT PROBABLY BREETHED FIRE AND RULED THE PLAINS, WHAT A MASCULIN INTEREST THIS TURNED OUT TO BE
>and then it turns out be a beluga whale's, the fat homosexuals of the ocean
I 100% believe most dinosaur depictions are wrong as frick, they were very likely overgrown birds
When I was a kid they were big lizards, now they're big birds. When I am old they'll probably claim that dinosaur were big hamsters or something.
Forgot pic
Either dinos were feathered fruits or giant sacks of lard, can't have it your way
GATTAI
TEREXXU MEGADINO
Dinosaurs aren’t real. Only paleontologists are allowed to look for fossils and only on one specific place. Normal people have never found them
Ask a r*dditor why those fossils would be so far underground and they'll go insane. Seriously, why would like 10 metres of dirt grow on every single dead dinosaur?
Wouldn't they just say "because millions of years"?
what do millions of years have to do with it. explain to me why everything that was above ground back then is underground now. where did all that extra soil come from?
I don't know, I was just proposing an idea about what their answer might be.
Changes in rock formations and sea levels?
>10 metres of dirt grow
this has to be bait
why is all old stuff underground then? and not just skeletons of creatures that were supposedly around millions of years ago, even cities from hundreds or thousands years ago are all mysteriously covered under tons of soil. Why can nobody just explain what the frick happened there?
Look at how islands form and you'll have you're answer
because bones decompose if exposed to the elements.
The ones on the top eroded away
Only the ones that get buried somehow have the chance to fossilise and be found millions of years later
My grandpa found a rex skeleton while surveying the Southwest Utah desert for a steel company. The government did take it from him.
Do you think all the people who think space is fake and dinosaurs aren't real are
A)shitskin morons
B)trolling
C)white christian morons
D)israeli psyop
Space is real. That's where the lizard people come from. Dinosaurs are a lizard lie.
Christians don't say that though, nice strawman though, homosexual.
Isn't lying a sin?
Yeah but the only one here lying is you, shlomo.
>N-no u!
Church is pretty pretty boring though. Especially the white people ones.
A healthy mix of the four. There's even people who will tell you feathered dinos are woke or something
Dinosaurs are found underground. israelites like tunnels. Look into it.
>DINOSAURS ARE HECKIN TRANS
in a trenchcoat?
>the Tyrannosaurus Rex may have actually been three separate dinosaurs
The T-Rex is...a Getter?
Why would Hammond want a park of scientifically accurate dinosaurs?
So you're telling me that, canonically, the Jurassic Park T-Rex is a Doctor Frankenstein-style creation? That's friggin epic.
Always has been. Reread the book.
Those are not necessarily the accurate dinos, but the closest thing to what Wu and his group ASSUMED were what the dinos looked like.
Big difference.
Crichton made the book advancement-proof, which is quite remarkable.
Dinosaurs were never mentioned before 1800's when natural museums figured out they can sell tickets with le ancient lizard monster sham.
>The T Rex wasn't real you chud!
>It was actually 100 compies in a rain coat!
>clickbait title
>don't even need to read the article to know that it will boil down to, "Uhm, ackshually, the t-rex was a genus, and there are ackshually different species of t-rex that all looked very similar but had minor regional differences."
The source coming from IGN and being intentionally vague confirms it's just shovelware nonsense like everything else IGN covers. This thread alone proves theres a draw for these kinds of antics though.
IGN being a fricking gaming news source rather than a legitimate publication (lol, as if non biased bs exists nowadays anyways) should already be a red flag, yeah. But I went and looked up this entire thing and it did indeed boil down to one gay claiming that t-rex was a species and that there should be two additional ones added, except all the "research" the guy did on the specimens was botched and done incorrectly in ways made to favor the multi-species hypothesis. So then multiple other paleontologists come in, point out that his methodology was wrong and he was just spouting shit, and causing people to re-examine the specimens actually showed that the t-rex actually LACKED diversity vs. other dinosaur species. Guy comes back and doesn't refute any of the corrections, but instead says, "Well the t-rex is too universally loved and that's why people won't even be willing to accept new ideas about it!" And that's laughable, given that basically everyone now accepts that the t-rex models we came up with in the 90s are wrong, and that the t-rex had a lot more fat/tissue around it's body, and that it had "lips" that covered it's teeth, rather than them being visible a la JP rex or crocodilians. Last I checked, people also agreed that the t-rex may have had very fine protofeathers as a hatchling/juvenile. I mean shit, we found out via such a well preserved triceratops specimen that that species actually had quills along it's back.
Truth is just a label. Invent it, change it, twist it around until its what you want.
There were only 3 "dinosaurs". The leviathan, the behemot and the zyz. The rest are not real as they dont appear in the bible.
>Politicians are incompetent.
>Scientists are incompetent.
>Engineers are incompetent.
USA 2024, everyone, diversity is truly our strength.
You forgot
> Dinosaurs are giant fat lazy feathered birds who were also gay sometimes
Also they didn't exist.
Funfacts, according to modern science:
>T-Rex's legs were too weak to run, it could only walk at extremely low speeds
>Due to the weight of its skull and its weak muscles, the T-Rex could hardly open its jaw. It could not hunt and had to eat soft food, mostly small fish and fresh meat
>Scientists consider the T-Rex to be "the weakest and most pathetic animal to ever exist"
>Science's
track record as of late is shit so I will take this with a huge grain of salt.
Am I still supposed to believe that the entire world was one fricking continent at some point?
Continental drift is a thing. Anywhere you see mountains it's cause two tectonic plates beneath the surface slammed into each other and pushed up the land above them. So if you look at all the mountain ranges stitched across the continents, you can see where a bunch of smaller plates have glommed together to make larger landmasses. Plates also drift apart, though, and when that happens it causes huge rifts. It's currently happening in Eastern Africa, actually. There's a massive rift valley that runs for hundreds of miles through Kenya and Ethiopia where these plates are pulling apart.
The Trex was an aquatic beast
>barely any arms, useless
>huge legs good for swimming
>if on land would be slow af, making catching prey impossible
>too big to walk
It was a huge sea predator that sometimes stepped on land to lay eggs
Let me take a swat at this:
1. Aquatic biped?
2. Look at the thickness of the Rex's femur and compare it to, say, an ostrich. Femurs thicken up under weight borne. T-rex legs bore the weight of the animal.
>Aquatic biped?
Evolution and stuff
>Look at the thickness of the Rex's femur and compare it to, say, an ostrich. Femurs thicken up under weight borne. T-rex legs bore the weight of the animal
They're just right for it to be able to hold its own weight on land for short periods of time to crap eggs AND to do full time swimming
>Evolution and stuff
you mean 'Magic'?
>Outlasts the dinosaurs by 65 million years, remains virtually unchanged
Heh, nothing personal kid
>Darwinists HATE him
It's like the robot wars ramps, the frickers have perfectly abused the rules of reality and just won't die.
>Old T-rex
Slow half-blind scavenger, dimwitted, would probably get outsmarted by a chicken
>Modern T-rex
Fast, agile apex predator, highly intelligent, telescopic vision superior to that of an eagle, would have killed everyone in JP1 without breaking a sweat
But It must be DA JOOZ emasculating dinosaurs right?
>fast, agile apex predator
lol
modern science says its legs were so incredibly weak it could barely walk, and it could certainly not hunt anything
>Old Sauropods
Couldn't leave the water and support it's weight, dragged a useless fat tail behind it, moves at glacial speed
>Modern Sauropods
Confidently strides on land migrating all over the world, tail is a supersonic whip capable of cutting a grown man in half without even trying
Surely the paleontologist must be on a grand mission to make dinosaurs lame right?
no dinosaurs ever existed
Dinosaurs went extinct around 4600 years ago
I believe this. Not a creationist but the similarities to mythological dragons are too similar. Early humans obviously hunted them to extinction.
Its true. The universe is electric.
The speed of light has been 'slowing down,' reaching a 'plateau' (c~c) around 2345 BC. Most dinosaurs were wiped out between 3000-2600 BC, atomic age being about 65 mya in 3000 BC
No, it doesn't.
JP series openly admits the dinos are inventions of gene-slicing tech made to fit with the public's cultural understanding of what dinos are.
Dinosaurs are arguably in the Bible. Stop letting “them” ruin everything cool
>thread full of morons spouting the most outlandish moronic gayshit at eachother in a desperate bid to outhomosexual eachother for reasons unknown
>any actual attempts at legitimate discussion immediately get drowned out in aforementioned hyperhomosexualry
This website was destroyed intentionally and these homosexuals are the ones that are convinced how they act is how everyone here always acted. Useful broccoli headed morons. Never an original thought nor an original emotion. Completely preprogrammed like a frickin TV remote.
It's just useless shitskins, failed manchildren millennials and negrified zoomers who inhabit this site now. You're better off going elsewhere if you want discussion.
Like megazord?
Damn that's cool
who are you quoting?
Chuds
You are israeli, though. So in a way, you're confirming what they're saying.
incels gonna die screaming
Not if the doors are wooden
Your family collage is irrelevant to this thread. Forget the 65 Million.
If the Holocaust is fake then all Hitler did was kill tens of millions of whites and zero israelites. What a hero of the white race.
Well he's a quarter israelite, so yeah
According to white nationalists, israelites are hyper competent literal demigods so why even bother fighting them? Literally everything that happened, ever was israeli, goyim are npc non-agents.
>these are the people i'm posting with
wtf do you guys really look like this?
Jurassic Park but it's only giant avians.
Jurassic Park but it's only the cretaceous period.
Jurassic Park but you find out about the Reptilian breeding experiments and the wars with the Procyons I've said too much
>the israelites are trying to destroy my image of dinosaurs made by aryan man STEVEN SPIELBERG
Why are chuds like this?
Jurassic Park was created by a 6ft 7 Aryan man.
Actually, I was wrong.
6ft 9*.
that headline was from 2 years ago and ended up being ignored by the scientific community. do you seriously have nothing better do you with your life than repost twitter-screenshot outrage-bait every day?
LEAVE DINOSAURS ALONE YOU FRICKING moronic """RESEARCHERS"""