Rehash of the drinkwater storyline but told in a better and deeper way with a worse actor and less likeable character. See what I mean? There's a give and take. Like how they introduce one of the best characters of the show here (Ralphie) but hadn't nailed his characterization yet, so despite a few good moments he ends up ultimately being just another loathsome VotW, just a pimple in the ass for Tony whom conveniently arrives now that his mother's dead.
Season 3 is when the series loses its comfyness and gets really dark and twisted. The direction turn from this sort of post modern look into the American family with the gimmick of it being a mafia family, to a tragedy.
Iirc this is when the series stops focusing on Tonys mommy issues and instead hints at the real source of his misery, his subconcious daddy issues.
The entire final episode, in particular, feels like one of the nightmare sequences. Or like Tony in purgatory after being shot.
Paulie sitting alone outside the pork shop. (Fun fact, same make and model of Christopher's car drives by and the driver looks like a corpse, really creepy, split-second frame.)
Tony meeting with Agent Harris in the blizzard.
The final meetup with Janice and Junior.
Sh!t is so bleak. But it also has a hint of the "Monotony of life" that Christafu was talking about in like, season 1.
Also definitely agree that media / art / culture has really suffered since then. It's like all the soul has been drained out and "Post-modernist" embalming fluid has replaced it. The culture of the 90s seemed so much more vibrant. Everything now feels so dull and lifeless.
The final season is the weird one for me. It's just so dark in a we know the 2000s are actually the permanent end to a level of soul in media and it's not coming back sort of way. The Vegas stuff especially is like a bad psychedelic trip. Not a good feeling from it at all.
>The Vegas stuff especially is like a bad psychedelic trip. Not a good feeling from it at all.
Tony killing Chris and then going off to frick his side piece while giving into his gambling addiction and laughing while it cuts to the asbestos being dumped in a lake while ducks quack is such a visceral scene. There really is no redemption for Tony and soon after we learn that criminals cant benefit from therapy anyway.
season 3 is a good season for me the ones i don't like as much are 4 and 6A, 6A has sopranos home movies and the kevin finnerty stuff which i really like, i'm sure 4 has some really good stuff too but i can't remember off the top of my head
he was working in florida, it occasionally got referenced after he came on
richie was in the can for season 1 and of course the whole cohort that get out in season 5
Because season 3 is where they start to settle in the pattern of:
Everything from last season was meaningless there's no consequences except Tony feeling sad
New antagonist for Tony randomly appears out of nowhere and is treated as though they've always been a major problem for Tony
Meadow ceases to be a vapid spoiled rich prostitute to becoming a hyper competent and serious person literally overnight destroying any drama or difficult for Tony from her making her a superfluous character
AJ just sits around doing nothing creating no strife or headaches for Tony making him a superfluous character
Uncle Junior just sits around content to let Tony seize all power from him
Everyone in the crew no matter how wronged is content to just lap dog to Tony unless it's a one off episode where nothing import happens
It's a comfy show but plot wise the Sopranos is six seasons of nothing happens then Tony randomly gets whacked. There's a lot of wasted time and filler and S3 is where it becomes obvious that's what the show is going to be until it ends.
>Uncle Junior just sits around content to let Tony seize all power from him
he had zero power and zero power base by the beginning of season 2, his loyalists were dead or in jail except for bobby and murph and he was constantly fighting the court battles, and just when that was winding down dementia came into town
Then explain how instead of being a little passive aggressive redditb***h femboy
>Uncle Junior just sits around content to let Tony seize all power from him
he had zero power and zero power base by the beginning of season 2, his loyalists were dead or in jail except for bobby and murph and he was constantly fighting the court battles, and just when that was winding down dementia came into town
So this tough egotistical murderer who wanted the stripes for decades finally gets them and then his nephew annihilates his crew and is living the high life while he is forced to sit at home all day and Junior isn't pissed about that? He doesn't have survivors of his crew that got demoted or lost money and prestige or got friends whacked in the war with Tony's crew that aren't whispering in Junior's ear, everyone just shrugged and was just fine with Tony's aggression and disrespect? A season ago Junior was trying to whack Tony and for the rest of th series he's content to just sit around even though he is having financial problems while his nephew and crew life in palaces?
Why can some of the posts made in this thread be tracked back to some bodybuilding forum word for word?
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=184886423
melfi's character goes from one of the best to trash in season 3, and they never figured out what to do with her after, but they're unwilling to cut her out of the show, always irritates me on rewatches
Her arc also felt kind of weak >Oh, I guess she learns to accept that Tony is a sociopath and she reads some literature that sociopaths can't really be helped by psychotherapy so she works up the courage to tell him she doesn't want to have him as a patient anymore
>and she reads some literature that sociopaths can't really be helped by psychotherapy so she works up the courage to tell him she doesn't want to have him as a patient anymore
The fact that it took that long for her to get the message screams lazy.
Yeah, the arc in itself is fine, this professional woman who thinks she has it all figured out but she is deceived by this charming sociopath, she thinks she can change him. But the way it was executed, it was just dragged across the entire show, she basically had very little development throughout, just a flatline until the end where there's a spike and she suddenly figures it out. Pretty lazy writing.
bump
yeah because it's simultaneously the worst and best season
It was rewritten because Livia died, imbecile.
No Black person. It's just the worst season. PERIOD! Literally just a rehash of the drinkwater storyline from S2.
Rehash of the drinkwater storyline but told in a better and deeper way with a worse actor and less likeable character. See what I mean? There's a give and take. Like how they introduce one of the best characters of the show here (Ralphie) but hadn't nailed his characterization yet, so despite a few good moments he ends up ultimately being just another loathsome VotW, just a pimple in the ass for Tony whom conveniently arrives now that his mother's dead.
It's the "Where do we go from here?" season.
OHHH!
It’s because Jackie Jr was a shit character
I enjoyed watching this show but I remember very little from it.
all I remember is when the one guy in the wheelchair blew himself up. that was pretty dank
>MELFIIIII DON'T GO INTO THE PARKING GARAGE ALONE!!! DIDN'T YOU SEE THAT SHADOWY FIGURE WHO WALKED PAST YOU IN THE STAIRWELL??? MELFIIIIIIIIIIIIII
This.
Enjoyable when watching, but not particularly impactful.
>actor of 2nd most important character died
>they literally had to rewrite everything because the show was written around that character
Its very dark in contrast to the prior seasons. Its kind of like the season 8 of family guy of the sopranos
Season 3 is when the series loses its comfyness and gets really dark and twisted. The direction turn from this sort of post modern look into the American family with the gimmick of it being a mafia family, to a tragedy.
Iirc this is when the series stops focusing on Tonys mommy issues and instead hints at the real source of his misery, his subconcious daddy issues.
Yep, It's primarily a doomer show from there on out
sopranos is a coomer show
Sex
eh, I think season 5 was when it went full doomer
yeah even into season 4 you have some brief moments of positiveness or levity
season 5 is when shit starts getting grim and season 6 is full nihilism
The entire final episode, in particular, feels like one of the nightmare sequences. Or like Tony in purgatory after being shot.
Paulie sitting alone outside the pork shop. (Fun fact, same make and model of Christopher's car drives by and the driver looks like a corpse, really creepy, split-second frame.)
Tony meeting with Agent Harris in the blizzard.
The final meetup with Janice and Junior.
Sh!t is so bleak. But it also has a hint of the "Monotony of life" that Christafu was talking about in like, season 1.
Also definitely agree that media / art / culture has really suffered since then. It's like all the soul has been drained out and "Post-modernist" embalming fluid has replaced it. The culture of the 90s seemed so much more vibrant. Everything now feels so dull and lifeless.
>Sh!t is so bleak. But it also has a hint of the "Monotony of life" that Christafu was talking about in like, season 1.
wallace and grommet.. i mean that weighed like 50 pounds.. how many trees gave their lives for that?? it just goes to the dump!
Some seasons are even weirder..
The final season is the weird one for me. It's just so dark in a we know the 2000s are actually the permanent end to a level of soul in media and it's not coming back sort of way. The Vegas stuff especially is like a bad psychedelic trip. Not a good feeling from it at all.
it's hard to watch, I understand it flips everything over but still.
>The Vegas stuff especially is like a bad psychedelic trip. Not a good feeling from it at all.
Tony killing Chris and then going off to frick his side piece while giving into his gambling addiction and laughing while it cuts to the asbestos being dumped in a lake while ducks quack is such a visceral scene. There really is no redemption for Tony and soon after we learn that criminals cant benefit from therapy anyway.
Yea, you can tell they knew what was coming
Season 3 is fantastic. Really, all the seasons except the first are great.
season 3 is a good season for me the ones i don't like as much are 4 and 6A, 6A has sopranos home movies and the kevin finnerty stuff which i really like, i'm sure 4 has some really good stuff too but i can't remember off the top of my head
Season one was the only good season and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
Ralphie just appeared was he in the can for the first 2 seasons ?
Florida, he's been doing a lot of coke over there.
he was working in florida, it occasionally got referenced after he came on
richie was in the can for season 1 and of course the whole cohort that get out in season 5
Ralphie’s random appearance made way more sense than that animal, Blundetto.
Because season 3 is where they start to settle in the pattern of:
Everything from last season was meaningless there's no consequences except Tony feeling sad
New antagonist for Tony randomly appears out of nowhere and is treated as though they've always been a major problem for Tony
Meadow ceases to be a vapid spoiled rich prostitute to becoming a hyper competent and serious person literally overnight destroying any drama or difficult for Tony from her making her a superfluous character
AJ just sits around doing nothing creating no strife or headaches for Tony making him a superfluous character
Uncle Junior just sits around content to let Tony seize all power from him
Everyone in the crew no matter how wronged is content to just lap dog to Tony unless it's a one off episode where nothing import happens
It's a comfy show but plot wise the Sopranos is six seasons of nothing happens then Tony randomly gets whacked. There's a lot of wasted time and filler and S3 is where it becomes obvious that's what the show is going to be until it ends.
>Uncle Junior just sits around content to let Tony seize all power from him
he had zero power and zero power base by the beginning of season 2, his loyalists were dead or in jail except for bobby and murph and he was constantly fighting the court battles, and just when that was winding down dementia came into town
Youre a pleb who didnt get the show.
Then explain how instead of being a little passive aggressive redditb***h femboy
So this tough egotistical murderer who wanted the stripes for decades finally gets them and then his nephew annihilates his crew and is living the high life while he is forced to sit at home all day and Junior isn't pissed about that? He doesn't have survivors of his crew that got demoted or lost money and prestige or got friends whacked in the war with Tony's crew that aren't whispering in Junior's ear, everyone just shrugged and was just fine with Tony's aggression and disrespect? A season ago Junior was trying to whack Tony and for the rest of th series he's content to just sit around even though he is having financial problems while his nephew and crew life in palaces?
As i said, it's a lot of wasted story telling.
S3 is the best season and the truest to the Sopranos form. S4 is the weird one, if anything.
I went to a strip club after watching this shows and was hoping the girls would like the sopranos girls I was lied to
Why can some of the posts made in this thread be tracked back to some bodybuilding forum word for word?
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=184886423
I'VE SAID MY PIECE CHRISSY
Satanic black magic sick shit
Why did this show pretend Melfi was an important character?
melfi's character goes from one of the best to trash in season 3, and they never figured out what to do with her after, but they're unwilling to cut her out of the show, always irritates me on rewatches
listen to him he knows everything..
Her arc also felt kind of weak
>Oh, I guess she learns to accept that Tony is a sociopath and she reads some literature that sociopaths can't really be helped by psychotherapy so she works up the courage to tell him she doesn't want to have him as a patient anymore
>and she reads some literature that sociopaths can't really be helped by psychotherapy so she works up the courage to tell him she doesn't want to have him as a patient anymore
The fact that it took that long for her to get the message screams lazy.
Yeah, the arc in itself is fine, this professional woman who thinks she has it all figured out but she is deceived by this charming sociopath, she thinks she can change him. But the way it was executed, it was just dragged across the entire show, she basically had very little development throughout, just a flatline until the end where there's a spike and she suddenly figures it out. Pretty lazy writing.
well ya hadda be there