I noped out when Caleb's wife berated him for being paranoid and the next scene was someone trying to shoot him so she tearfully said he was correct.
I'm on episode 2 so from what I understand so far humans lost the war and are now getting mind controlled and made to answer to hosts. Also fricking Maeve can now control all technology for some reason.
it's even dumber
In the time skip between season 3 and 4, the humans win the great "robot war" launched after the destruction of the AI controlling the world. I forget the name. Meanwhile, DURING the start of season 4, i think around the first three episodes, Halo-dolores (during another offscreen timeskip) pulls off creating and spreading mind control flies that succesfully take over the world. From there, the plot is completely pointless as nothing matters. What an absolute waste. The show kept going back and forth on its being characters being Dolores and William, forget it, remember it, forget it, remember it, ad infinitum.
I miss when this show was just "Playing GTA is a bit fricked up when you think about it" and "Anthony Hopkins says spooky shit to robots and they gain sentience".
Frick my life I actually ENJOYED season 3 because of the extremely creative and plausable world.
I can understand that. Season 3 is after all a rather substandard adaptation of Nolans later season work on Person of Interest.
That does remind me what a huge disappointment the second season one in regards to what it had set up. Season one clearly ends on a place where it's setting up some kind of mix of jurassic park meets robot resident evil, with William caught up right in the middle of it as he and other park guests survive and fight Dolores (obviously William would be especially suited for it with his skillset).
As it actually was he was on the periphery and the entire season isn't really about that conflict since it's really a sort of needlessly convoluted detective story in the sense that we are just going through flashbacks as Bernard or those corporate stooges try to figure out what happened (it's been a while).
I wonder if the showrunners even themselves understand objectively how bad season 2-4 are and how progressively worse they get.
Season 2 was a fricking travesty in it's waste of potential for exactly the reasons you mentioned.
It was the first time the show started changing it's own rules for story's sake with the toasters suddenly not only completely aware of what is happening to them but able to stand up against squads with p90s. Once it broke internal consistency it was over.
As for why I like 3 there were a lot of really clever ideas that had nothing to do with plot or character which I assume came from talented concept artists like their version of helicopters or the ambulance guys who needed the computer to tell them what to do. It got really fricking silly though
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That's fair. I'm not the biggest fan of the third season but at least it has some interesting concepts. And surprisingly full of cameos from Person of interest.
Season two was also the one that started the bit of clearly retconning characters into being robots out of nowhere, which they kept up in later seasons.
Stubbs was absolutely written in the first season to be a human. When the second season came out Nolan said in an interview he came up with the robot twist pretty right when he wrote it.
I will say, second season has at least got that William centric episode that ends in the shootout in the rain. I don't recall if the third season has any strong standouts like that?
How many times did they regress on Williams plot/character arc?
It was particularly weird how they swept William off the scene in season 3 only to have him replaced by a standin (caleb is pretty much an alternate take on young/pure William, but worse)
Then they kill him off. Only to reveal he's not dead (we alreadyd knew he had been replaced by a robot). And then he dies again (for real this time). And then his robot copy dies again.
how many times does Robot hale die in the final season? It's crazy how little impact anything in the latter half of the show has just because they reuse these lazy plot devices of killing characters off, only to resurrect them next episode. Because guess what. They are robots, not human beings.
This shows central flaw was the subject and plot are too intelligent for the writers. No writer can write a more intelligent person than themselves. This show is about super advanced thinking machines and the men that built them.
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No standouts I can think of. Just decent throughout. Unfortunately decent is a high bar to clear for scifi these days. I guess I enjoyed the Bogdanoff episode.
That's fair. I'm not the biggest fan of the third season but at least it has some interesting concepts. And surprisingly full of cameos from Person of interest.
Season two was also the one that started the bit of clearly retconning characters into being robots out of nowhere, which they kept up in later seasons.
Stubbs was absolutely written in the first season to be a human. When the second season came out Nolan said in an interview he came up with the robot twist pretty right when he wrote it.
I will say, second season has at least got that William centric episode that ends in the shootout in the rain. I don't recall if the third season has any strong standouts like that?
No standouts I can think of. Just decent throughout. Unfortunately decent is a high bar to clear for scifi these days. I guess I enjoyed the Bogdanoff episode.
i feel like you need to put like ten other shows between season 1 and whatever follows after in that rating system before including the other westworld shows
how is anyone still watching this? I gave up halfway through season 2, I don't think Iv ever seen a show drop off in quality so quickly and severely after a fantastic first season
It wouldn't actually have been back in the park. While it would be visually impressive, there is no emotional whatsoever to watching a simulation in order to determine whether humanity is worth saving. Not to mention that not only is humanity doomed to extinction, so are the digital AI people since the machinery will stop working eventually without anyone in the real world to maintain them.
>The toasters are in charge and for some reason they love bullying humans exactly how humans used to bully toasters in season 1
If anyone else is here don't watch season 4. It's absolute utter shit.
What's even going on in the rest of the world? They only ever focus on the one city and I don't remember them even mentioning any other place
Are we just supposed to assume the entire rest of the world is like this too? Did they seriously build one of those towers in every single city across the globe? What about areas where the population isn't centralized? Surely there must be organized human resistance on a massive scale, it just logistically doesn't make sense that the ENTIRE human race would be defeated
But again none of this is mentioned. It's such lazy writing
Mate I just got to the Man-in-Black menaces humans like the humans menaced the toasters in Westworld because apparently the hosts were programmed with revenge and lust and madness and all kinds of shit. The writing is TERRIBLE.
They should've killed her off and put her into another body I can't believe they wrote themselves into a situation where they had to give this terrible actress so much screentime
I hated this so fricking much. I'm not even a racist. It's the lazy writing of making writing a power move like that. I'm glad they killed this fricking show.
yeah, it was absurdly stupid. i noped out when bernard began matrix fighting and saying he was on a mission to save the world
I noped out when Caleb's wife berated him for being paranoid and the next scene was someone trying to shoot him so she tearfully said he was correct.
I'm on episode 2 so from what I understand so far humans lost the war and are now getting mind controlled and made to answer to hosts. Also fricking Maeve can now control all technology for some reason.
Iirc she gained that ability after she took the comedy relief techies hostage and demanded they max out her intelligence
it's even dumber
In the time skip between season 3 and 4, the humans win the great "robot war" launched after the destruction of the AI controlling the world. I forget the name. Meanwhile, DURING the start of season 4, i think around the first three episodes, Halo-dolores (during another offscreen timeskip) pulls off creating and spreading mind control flies that succesfully take over the world. From there, the plot is completely pointless as nothing matters. What an absolute waste. The show kept going back and forth on its being characters being Dolores and William, forget it, remember it, forget it, remember it, ad infinitum.
I miss when this show was just "Playing GTA is a bit fricked up when you think about it" and "Anthony Hopkins says spooky shit to robots and they gain sentience".
Frick my life I actually ENJOYED season 3 because of the extremely creative and plausable world.
I can understand that. Season 3 is after all a rather substandard adaptation of Nolans later season work on Person of Interest.
That does remind me what a huge disappointment the second season one in regards to what it had set up. Season one clearly ends on a place where it's setting up some kind of mix of jurassic park meets robot resident evil, with William caught up right in the middle of it as he and other park guests survive and fight Dolores (obviously William would be especially suited for it with his skillset).
As it actually was he was on the periphery and the entire season isn't really about that conflict since it's really a sort of needlessly convoluted detective story in the sense that we are just going through flashbacks as Bernard or those corporate stooges try to figure out what happened (it's been a while).
I wonder if the showrunners even themselves understand objectively how bad season 2-4 are and how progressively worse they get.
Season 2 was a fricking travesty in it's waste of potential for exactly the reasons you mentioned.
It was the first time the show started changing it's own rules for story's sake with the toasters suddenly not only completely aware of what is happening to them but able to stand up against squads with p90s. Once it broke internal consistency it was over.
As for why I like 3 there were a lot of really clever ideas that had nothing to do with plot or character which I assume came from talented concept artists like their version of helicopters or the ambulance guys who needed the computer to tell them what to do. It got really fricking silly though
That's fair. I'm not the biggest fan of the third season but at least it has some interesting concepts. And surprisingly full of cameos from Person of interest.
Season two was also the one that started the bit of clearly retconning characters into being robots out of nowhere, which they kept up in later seasons.
Stubbs was absolutely written in the first season to be a human. When the second season came out Nolan said in an interview he came up with the robot twist pretty right when he wrote it.
I will say, second season has at least got that William centric episode that ends in the shootout in the rain. I don't recall if the third season has any strong standouts like that?
How many times did they regress on Williams plot/character arc?
It was particularly weird how they swept William off the scene in season 3 only to have him replaced by a standin (caleb is pretty much an alternate take on young/pure William, but worse)
Then they kill him off. Only to reveal he's not dead (we alreadyd knew he had been replaced by a robot). And then he dies again (for real this time). And then his robot copy dies again.
how many times does Robot hale die in the final season? It's crazy how little impact anything in the latter half of the show has just because they reuse these lazy plot devices of killing characters off, only to resurrect them next episode. Because guess what. They are robots, not human beings.
How about that the evil reveal of the park is that it's an immortality project by someone who thinks making a copy of themselves is living on somehow.
I still cant believe they fricking cancelled this show before the hack writers could explain where the shrink ray is and how it works
Why do you think they cancelled it
probably because it was bad
ahh so the train tunnel just shrinks the whole train and then routes it onto the park/table?
It's act same technology in Honey I Shrunk The Kids. It's in the train tunnel on the way in to the park. This is illustrated in the first episode.
should have been a single season tv show.
or did what the terror did. fricked off to another plot.
Season 1 and Season 3 at a push.
yeah it's a big mess. still would've liked to have seen the final season
I dropped this shit in season 3 and I feel bad for getting suckered that long.
First season was decent; season 3 makes the first look like a masterpiece.
This shows central flaw was the subject and plot are too intelligent for the writers. No writer can write a more intelligent person than themselves. This show is about super advanced thinking machines and the men that built them.
1 > 2 > 4 > 3
Pilot > 1 > 2 > power gap > 3 > Ragnarok, revelations, end of world > 4
>NEWEST THING BAD
sad trope, 4 was better than 3
I'd ask you to back up your opinion but your post already outs you as an idiot
4>3 is absolute madness
1>>>>3>>2>4
No standouts I can think of. Just decent throughout. Unfortunately decent is a high bar to clear for scifi these days. I guess I enjoyed the Bogdanoff episode.
i feel like you need to put like ten other shows between season 1 and whatever follows after in that rating system before including the other westworld shows
how is anyone still watching this? I gave up halfway through season 2, I don't think Iv ever seen a show drop off in quality so quickly and severely after a fantastic first season
Oh frick me they just got to the secret westworld
yeah but season 5 back in the park could've been kino
>cold reset but now Dolores is director
It wouldn't actually have been back in the park. While it would be visually impressive, there is no emotional whatsoever to watching a simulation in order to determine whether humanity is worth saving. Not to mention that not only is humanity doomed to extinction, so are the digital AI people since the machinery will stop working eventually without anyone in the real world to maintain them.
It's your fault for watching this shit past season 2
Season 1 was cool
Season 2 it completely fell apart
3 and 4 sound like utter shit
As a whole season 4 was shit.... but the episode where he is on the 'genre' drug was one of the best episodes of the entire show.
>hate all you want, you know I'm right
That's season 3
Holy fricking shit, I had no idea that they had released another season. Good call, oh shit, I'm almost scared to finish it now.
I'm on season 4 episode 3 right now. So far you'd be better just leaving it with the fight club ending.
Season 1 was shit, so I'm assuming seasons 2, 3, and 4 were shit as well.
S01 is so good. S02 gets carried here and there by the mystery and Hopkins. Then you get rest...
Recommend decent sci-fi shows please.
Season 4 is absolute garbage
For All Mankind
>Has Kinoman
but also
>Intercuts moon landing with a heroic girl doing an epic border crossing
No
I've seen farscape several times. If I'm going to go on a nostalgia trip it'll be TNG or SG1.
What did Westworld Season 4 episode 3 35:40 mean by this?
/misc/ get out
Hey remember when the commies got so buttblasted about being BTFO daily they ran away and formed /leftypol/? Kek
This anon lies
I don't believe Ondores lies
Farscape (there are no good new SciFi shows so might aswell go back to the classics)
>Bernard spends 20 years in the machine world where they somehow predict everything including where people are buried
>The toasters are in charge and for some reason they love bullying humans exactly how humans used to bully toasters in season 1
If anyone else is here don't watch season 4. It's absolute utter shit.
What's even going on in the rest of the world? They only ever focus on the one city and I don't remember them even mentioning any other place
Are we just supposed to assume the entire rest of the world is like this too? Did they seriously build one of those towers in every single city across the globe? What about areas where the population isn't centralized? Surely there must be organized human resistance on a massive scale, it just logistically doesn't make sense that the ENTIRE human race would be defeated
But again none of this is mentioned. It's such lazy writing
Mate I just got to the Man-in-Black menaces humans like the humans menaced the toasters in Westworld because apparently the hosts were programmed with revenge and lust and madness and all kinds of shit. The writing is TERRIBLE.
Oh FRICK me Matrix 4 ripped this shit off how embarassing
I'm mad that I even wasted time finishing season 2.
S1 a best, I fast forward through all Mave scenes after her awakening.
You missed this creature becoming the main antagonist and also ruler of the entire human race
They should've killed her off and put her into another body I can't believe they wrote themselves into a situation where they had to give this terrible actress so much screentime
She is trying to do menacing this season and it's fricking hilarious
I can believe it, she's black and the show runners and writers are typical virtue signalling Hollywood liberals
>Black woman rules the world and has revenge on an entire city and bullies them
Sounds about right
Here she is seconds after demanding a CHAIR! CHAIR!
I hated this so fricking much. I'm not even a racist. It's the lazy writing of making writing a power move like that. I'm glad they killed this fricking show.
>Le dancing crowd
>Le bloody fingers piano player
It's so lazy
>watching past season 1
homie what in the frick are you doing
I'm fricking desperate for scifi please help
chinese cartoons
Recommend me some please