Why are this thing's stats so goddamn ridiculous for an early neo zeon war era MS? No wonder they haven't bothered gaining the rights for Sentinel since this thing is ludicrous even compared to Unicorn suits.
Like, in canon it what reason would there be for AE to shelve it or the zeta line or theta?
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>expecting logic from a fanfic
lmsoooooo
It was literally a Sunrise sanctioned project
Sentinel as a work doesn't seem to have paid much care to UC as a setting, and it resulted including units that still outdo those in use nearly a century later on multiple fronts. The Ex-S is nearly twice as fast as the Victory Gundam, for instance. Or the fact that the beam smartgun is like, the second most powerful beam weapon mounted on an MS in the entire setting except it's rapid fire and doesn't need to aim beyond pointing it within 20 degrees of something. The most egregious example is probably a single line about aiming millions of miles in a setting with Minovsky particles widely used, and mobile suits built specifically to operate in them and with sensors and weapons that concentrate on short to mid range combat for the most part. It's only a single line, and outside that line the story sticks to ranges in unspecified units, but it still sticks out like a sore thumb regardless.
Maybe sensors just became a lot better since OYW or maybe Minovsky particles need active diffusion for it to be really disuptive. I don't know.
>including units that still outdo those in use nearly a century later on multiple fronts. The Ex-S is nearly twice as fast as the Victory Gundam, for instance.
Anon, sentinel finished 5 years before victory started.
so it should be excused?
All numbers and figures in Gundam are moronic. Why don't you go fricking complain that the Gundam's reactor is weaker than the engines of an Apache helicopter?
How was the guy that wrote sentinel supposed to know the v gundam's stats as a reference?
>the second most powerful beam weapon mounted on an MS in the entire setting
What's the first, the Beam Magnum?
Actually thinking about it it might be fourth most powerful since the FAZZ HMLs and ZZ forehead cannon exists, but yeah I had the beam magnum in mind.
I don't know if I should count the Dendrobium cannon and the Deepstriker cannon though
>since this thing is ludicrous even compared to Unicorn suits.
how exactly
armor, energy output, MW rating on armaments and armament capabilities in general, acceleration, modularity, I-Field, quasi-psycommu, transformability, reflector INCOMs, terminator autopilot with waifu included, etc.
Shit is like fanfic-tier put as much bullshit into it as you can without resorting to newtype hax or something like that.
>Armor
It's the same armor material as anything else made around the same era - gundarium gamma. At best it's maybe composite construction so it's not a single homogeneous slab, but it's not crazy or anything.
>energy output
Weaker than the base model ZZ Gundam.
>MW rating on armaments
The only one that's notable is the beam smartgun. Everything else is comparable or on par with ZZ and CCA era stuff.
>armament capabilities in general
>acceleration
>modularity
>transformability
Yes, true. Then again, it is a prototype. All of these end up being shelved for about 60 years until grunt MS are advanced enough to start approaching this level of specifications and technology from a more efficient standpoint. It's less that the technology shouldn't exist at this point in time, but none of it is suitable for mass production combat models that get by just fine without it.
>I-Field
>reflector INCOMs
Rare, but not unheard of even at this point in the timeline. Psyco Gundam Mark II and some other machines share the tech in a notably compact form.
>quasi-psycommu
Does not exist on the Ex-S nor the S Gundam.
You need a quasi psycommu to operate INCOMs anon
I thought ALICE being there was the reason why the S and Ex-S didn't have a psycommu or quasi-psycommu like the Gundam Mark V did. As far as I know, none of the background info ever mention a quasi-psycommu for it.
Ryou wasn't even aware ALICE was there for most of the photonovel. Sure ALICE took the reins for most of the story but for verisimilitude's sake there had to be ways to control armaments that he knew were there. And afaik INCOMs practically require a quasipsycommu
However, the incoms on the S Gundam are reflector types, meaning they're not actually weapons that the pilot would intentionally specifically use or command to attack a target. They're there to supplement and enhance the rest of the weapons on the suit, by giving them unexpected angles of attack and bigger effective firing arcs.
*In my headcanon* It'd be possible to program them in a way where the pilot doesn't need to manually direct them, but maybe for example even though the enemy went behind a wall or an asteroid, all dumbfrick Ryu knows is that the screen in front of him still says "target locked" or "firing solution ready" and that if he pulls the trigger, the firing computer will point the gun toward the reflector incom and bounce the beam into the target for him.
There's still the beam incom mounted on the head, and in my understanding it'd be simpler to have a quasi psycommu in it anyway as compared to just leaving it to drone computers. Lots of oldtypes were already using wired remote weaponry during that era
The S Gundam does not have reflector incoms. It has a beam gun incom.
The Ex-S Gundam does have two reflector incoms.
Reminder that ALICE killed herself
If she hadn't purged the EX-S gear she could've made it as I'm pretty sure the G-Cruiser can reentry. Correct me if I'm wrong
EX-S parts were still damaged from fighting the Mk.V, didn't get fielded for the last dance. What got ejected was the whole ass wienerpit
those stats are kind of bullshit to begin with - the average mobile suit weighs about as much as a jet fighter for instance. Even though modern jet fighters and mobile suits are about the same size, mobile suits are built for the stresses of grounded combat and would realistically need to weigh a lot more to do what they do.
Also see G-Saviour - if we go by literal interpretation of stats G-Saviour can outmanuever every mobile suit that has ever existed in the Universal Century.
Aren't mobile suits built for space?
Even most space suits can handle basic ground combat, they might just not be optimized for it.
Stats don't matter to Bandai or Sunrise, the GP03 is faster than the fricking F91.
>for an early neo zeon war era MS
>I haven't watched zeta and double zeta the post
t.waiting for p.bandai to make my doven wolf MG to go with my zz
>in canon it what reason would there be for AE to shelve it or the zeta line or theta?
because it's very expensive and highly experimental? Feds want to mass produce the Zeta, but that alone is a financial nightmare for them. The Z+ line is less of a mass production one and more here's a handful of suits for aces
this is an AE goofing off making something stupid that's way out of the original scope of the project which can and will happen multiple times
There's actually an ungodly number of Zeta Plus units. Someone did the math and came out with around 80 since theres so many variants
I hope we see some of them in Hathaway part 2
If the Hathaway movies acknowledge fan fiction then they will be nothing but a failure.
if it sells kits it's canon, this is the way of the world
sentinel has been making bank on plastic crack since the 90's
cope, have sex, seethe and dilate
Don’t forget the fact that the ai was something that higher-ups canonically wanted shut down , so...
The reason Sentinel shit seems so buffed is because Gundam and UC in general is really strange about powerlevel and tech scaling with regard to time. Second Neo Zeon War to Laplace incident is just a little under a decade and OYW to Laplace a little under a score but were meant to take it that multiple suit generations happen in that short span. Realistically you'd still see Gryps era shit being used so long as it has Gundarium and effective weaponry, just look at how the F15 and the Abrams are from the 70s and how the F22 is 25 years old.
There really shouldn't be any realistic difference when you pit Second Neo Zeon war era suits to Hathaway era shit except on the cutting edge but since we base our understanding off of what is animated and what is animated shows that suits that are just two to three years younger have a big advantage then that is what we're left with.
Forgot to mention Anaheim and their seemingly infinite resources
EFF probably gave them a blank check once Axis Zeon started their attack overall.
At least AE aborted both the Deep Striker and Hummingbird since they were too excessive. And with Deep Striker being too well put together might have some people in high command wonder if AE was going to start releasing info about the GP-Program
>caring about powerlevels
its sensors are dogshit primitive compared to later MS
How do you figure? Is it on the wiki or something?
yes, check the Japanese wikis. Its sensor range is worse than the best MS during the 2nd Neo Zeon war and only slightly better than the Geara Zulu's
Pretty incongruous with the role the S Gundam variants are supposed to play no? What with big frick off guns at standoff range. Though I guess it's just more Sentinel inconsistency
no, it had the better sensors of its time but time moves fast. also its rival the Mk.V had pretty basic grunt tier sensors
All stats for gundam ms are complete horseshit, but its worth noting that in real life stats don't show the entire picture, and newer tech doesn't always beat older tech in every stat.
For example, the F35 is slower and shorter ranged than many fighter jets that came before it but it could blow most of them out of the sky because of the absurd increase in the quality of its armaments and its stealth capabilities.
18 part OVA when?
You could literally tell all of Sentinel's story in 1 movie.
With glorious hand drawn 80s animation and none of that CG drawn shit.
I love Ex S Gundam so much bros. My favourite Gundam for sure.
RG Ex-S is going to happen. I know it.
I really like the AI used for the S Gundam in Sentinel
A.L.I.C.E. was one of my favorite things about Sentinel, and it felt right that a pilot would need help with the things they needed to do in a mobile suit.
I wish AI-assisted mobile suits were in other Gundam series, maybe we will see more of it since AI is trending a lot more in real life
How would they explain no AI in late UC then?
All GMs have copies of the Gundam's learning computer data anyway, the AI is there it's just not being trained continuous like on the Gundam.
I mean Aerial is pretty much confirmed to be sentient, so you might get A.L.I.C.E 2
>muh specs
Can't wait till you wander over to the 0080 page on MAHQ and make another crypost about specs