Reminder that Shannananan made Chris pay for a babysitter even though she didn’t have a job, just so she could sit in the other room away from her children on social media to ‘network’ and have ‘mommy time’ while Chris was at work.
He made about 70k a year as oil contractor
She took all his money and did all the financial rulings >Incompetent actions include spending tens of thousands on shitty MLM schemes >spending thousand a month on a private daycare for her kids even though she was a stay at home mom lmao >spending thousands and thousands on doctors to try and diagnose their children so she could post on Facebook to get sympathy >bought a McMansion they couldn’t really afford or barely afford
So basically Chris made enough money for his wife and kids to live relatively comfortably but Shannon mismanaged all the money so badly that Chris was basically trapped as a broke wageslave for the rest of his life
no matter what, what Chris did was really fricked up. However, I find it amusing how everyone acts like for mlm shit was benefiting the family and that mlm wasn't totally a scam
The problem is Chris never grew a backbone and just said no. He never put his foot down which meant Shananan thought she wore the pants and could dictate all the finances. Him not manning up was the catalyst towards all this
His favorite show was Psycho Dad. I disagree with your thesis. I don't think Al planned to kill his family but would be pretty much okay with it if it all went down.
>letting the stay at home mcmansion suburb wife manage finances
Bonehead move. The Suburbia middle class yet still living above your means life is a complete toilet.
Visualization board. Its a corny thing middle class women do. They make a board with all their wants written on it and it has some sort of hippie new age magic effect of making it real by "manifesting it"
This small town girl shit is legit more insane and unhinged than like alt girls.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I unironically believe in manifestation but I do it by imagining/fantasizing shit I want while I'm lifting weights or daydreaming or whatever not by making some gay moodboard with cliches and empty buzzwords all over it
5 months ago
Anonymous
Manifestation works in the way that if you really do focus and obsess over something like accomplishing a certain goal, then your brain will be hardwired to focus on achieving it by incremental steps and after a while, you will accomplish it. But thats not how these women treat these boards.
They think that if they write it down on a board in an arts and crafts project, God or the universe will magic it to them for being good people or something.
The secret with women is really keeping them at an appropriate distance. Not too far that you aren't sleeping with them, but not too close that they ever feel safe and secure enough to do shit like that, let alone show it to you.
this is so deranged I don't even know where to start
I do lol at the idea that even when she's impossibly successful she still only sees her parents 1x/yr
When you see this can you really blame him for killing his wife? Any sane man would want to do so. Why he would kill his kids is a mystery to me though. Maybe he saw that they were turning into his wife? And that angered him?
It's the older structure of things. Men would bring home the bacon and women would cook the bacon. Bank hours are such that you can't do your financials as a man working a real job as every bank is long closed before you get off work but are perfect for stay-at-home housewives. And banks set it up like this on purpose so they could frick over dumb housewives.
My parents told me the only woman worth marrying is one that you know you can share an account with. Theyve been married for like 34 years but I dont think Im that lucky
Better advice is separate credit cards. If you get divorced typically you have to split whatever debts you incurred during your marriage 50/50 but if they took on credit card debt in their name alone, they're stuck paying that.
In Chris's case, if that $450k credit card debt (reduced to $70k in the bankruptcy) was all in her name, he'd be standing in a much better financial situation in the divorce. However, as we know from the bankruptcy that they jointly filed, the credit debt was in both their names.
>took on credit card debt in their name alone, they're stuck paying that.
Depends on the state. Some jurisdictions go by the date the debt was accrued (before or after marriage). In Texas, ANYTHING after marriage is considered community property, except gifts or inheritance. But, this is why you go to mediation, so you have an agreement that gets put into the final decree that says hey this debt is her responsibility. The judge will likely split the baby like solomon if you dont have a mediated settlement agreement.
why the frick would you let a woman handle your money? I've met like 2 finance savy women in my life. Every other b***h threw money out and lived paycheck to paycheck like the morons that women are
>Just don’t get married. You can have a GF, just don’t marry her. If she’s got a problem with that, then it ain’t meant to be.
That's actually my plan if I decide to seek out romance & I find "The One."
>Just don’t get married. You can have a GF, just don’t marry her. If she’s got a problem with that, then it ain’t meant to be.
That's actually my plan if I decide to seek out romance & I find "The One."
I'm married and basically my life is pretty much fricked if I get divorced. However my life married is pretty damn good and better than when I was just dating so I guess that's the trade-off.
>Just don’t get married. You can have a GF, just don’t marry her. If she’s got a problem with that, then it ain’t meant to be.
That's actually my plan if I decide to seek out romance & I find "The One."
[...]
I'm married and basically my life is pretty much fricked if I get divorced. However my life married is pretty damn good and better than when I was just dating so I guess that's the trade-off.
Would common law status not screw you just as bad?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Depends where you live. That or just don’t let her live with you.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Depends on the state. If you're dating past 20 years you might as well get married for legal purposes anyway. Trust me you don't want to be in the situation where your gf dies and her family who you hate inherits half of the things in your house.
5 months ago
Anonymous
More or less yes if you choose to live together.
I'm married because I wanted to have kids which I now have and that's the advice I would give to you. You should get married to have kids. Marriage is for creating a family with a mommy and a daddy and a baby (or multiple babies). If you don't want that just don't get married.
>Chris made enough money for his wife and kids to live relatively comfortably >$70k
maybe I'm out of touch but I can't imagine raising a family with this household income
They live in run down apartments in the ghetto/barrio.
5 months ago
Anonymous
The dumb ones.
The smart ones get their baby daddy to buy a house, and not be married to them - then they get section 8 voucher and the government pays for the house entirely, and then pays them to live there after it's paid off.
Meanwhile they get their phone, diapers, food, and oil/heat paid for by YOU the tax payer.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You don't know how section 8 works
5 months ago
Anonymous
I do - get mad
5 months ago
Anonymous
>he doesn't think that black people are being told to divorce their babby daddys and have him buy a house in a predominant white area and then register it as a section 8 eligible apartment and then the black mom gets a voucher well above market value because it's part of Obama era HUD plan to 'diversify overly white areas'
not even joking https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/hud-maps-suburbs-in-new-diversity-project/
They were a 30 min drive from downtown Denver, and paid $400k for the house in 2013. Not exactly peanuts
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11474445/Chris-Watts-600-000-Colorado-house-killed-wife-daughters-sells.html
5 months ago
Anonymous
yeah original anon's point was that that was too much for them, I'm just saying I imagine they could've found something more affordable still within range of his work but idk
5 months ago
Anonymous
The house wasn't a bad decision. The bad decision was racking up $450,000 in credit card debt buying shit they didn't need. Had they not done that, they'd be fine living where they did because they could afford it on the money they were making.
5 months ago
Anonymous
The house wasn't a bad decision. The bad decision was racking up $450,000 in credit card debt buying shit they didn't need. Had they not done that, they'd be fine living where they did because they could afford it on the money they were making.
The article actually mentions their mortgage >In 2015, the couple filed for bankruptcy, according to documents obtained by CBS Denver, after failing to meet their $3,000 monthly mortgage payments.
So $36k a year on housing ALONE, on a $70k gross income. That's over 50%, they set themselves up for failure trying to maintain that.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Assuming it was 30 year mortgage, they would've paid over $1 million on that home? Or was it the 15 year variety.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>spending half your paycheck on where you live
Yes, it's called being an adult. Having a place to live is pretty important which is why it ranks high on your budget, kid.
They fell behind on their mortgage due to their massive credit card debt which wasn't fully absolved in the bankruptcy, and they were late by three months which they paid off by taking out a loan against his 401k holy frick I just realized you have no fricking clue what I'm talking about because you're a fricking NEET with zero life experiences beyond playing World of Warcraft. Please go to a thread about elves where you actually can contribute to the inane discussion they're having there.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You're a fricking moron. Anyone with sense will tell you not to spend more than 36% of your gross income on houring. Even without her insane credit card spending he couldn't afford that house.
Let's say he's walking away with about $50k after taxes and call it $4200 a month. We'll be generous and say his family's health insurance premiums were only $200 a month since I have no idea what that would be in Colorado at that time.
So he's got a $3000 mortgage on a $4000 income, not to mention utilities, HOA fee, and two cars.
That's not being an adult, that's being a fricking idiot. The reason I'm so baffled by his finances is because my wife and I have a combine 300k/y income and we don't even have a 3k/m mortgage because we're not clowns
5 months ago
Anonymous
>"no it's stupid to buy a house and then take out a mortgage that you can comfortably afford if you don't rack up credit card debt"
NEET logic
5 months ago
Anonymous
>yeah bro, it's totally fine to spend 75% of your take home pay on a McMansion in an HOA
t. American dream salesman
you really shouldn't be spending much than 1/3 of your gross income on housing
5 months ago
Anonymous
>on a $70k gross income
In 2013 when they bought their house they had a combined income of $147,256.
5 months ago
Anonymous
So her being a SAHM was a meme?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yes but also no.
From what I can tell she used to work and as time went on as she got pregnant she worked less and less and their combined income decreased as a result while they were simultaneously taking on a ton of credit card debt. Originally she was making almost as much as Chris was but I think she switched from working to doing MLM shit. Chris wound up getting a better job six months before the murders which would have helped out their financial situation.
Honestly, it wasn't a bad idea for them to buy their home. What was a bad idea was her decreasing their income stream while increasing their spending on credit.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Did he get demoted or something? Or was she the one making bank and decided to quit
5 months ago
Anonymous
Damn, he literally could have sold the house and paid for his debts
Probably low cost of living as they're in the middle of nowhere. The whole point of a stay at home parent is you save massive income on childcare. But they still used childcare for some dumb reason
For any anons not in a relationship or a budding one, here’s some simple rules.
1) Have a separate bank account. If you’re splitting bills, agree on the amount you put into a joint specifically for bills/housing funds.
2) Don’t stay with a woman with zero ambition unless your job is $100k+
3) Do not let her spend your personal money if she has a job. If she wants something as a present, YOU buy it.
the Netflix doc made her look like she was a highly successful MLM pusher. for a while I thought she scammed enough people to actually get ahead in terms of profit but apparently not
>what are you gonna do? take my wife's and kid's home lmao?
They will if that shit hasn't been paid off (and it likely wasn't given how much of a money waster his wife was and how mildly moronic he is).
>>debt cleared
haha
not if its student loan debt
not if its certain kind of medical debt
not if its debt the judge decides you shouldn't be cleared of
AND THE LAND OF THEEEEE FREEEEEEE
>He was in massive debt due to her financial mismanagement.
wouldn't that make it better to divorce at that point? what's she gonna take half of, his debt?
>just move to mexico
he wasn't cash rich, he just had a good salary
shanan took all his savings. the moment he left for mexico he'd be broke within a few months. to get residency there you need an address and proof of solvency. He was low IQ, didn't speak Spanish, Nicole the Assdemon had no interest in uprooting her life, she just wanted casual sex.
In all honesty killing Shanaan was the right move but he should have put pills in her wine or arranged some kind of hiking accident. strangling her and burying her at his workplace, in full view of CCTV with the truck GPS turned on, was incredibly stupid.
Killing the kids was just evil.
This is one of the reasons it is a captivating case - Chris was and is a genuinely dumb guy. Not many middle class people are that stupid, and it's fascinating to observe.
Captivating case cos he let things get way out of hand before his only choice is the most extreme? Smarter guys can decide a woman is just using him as ATM machine before having a gaggle of kids, then he can't even call the CPS on her. He did what society expected of him, then couldn't think on his feet exactly what he was living for. Financial counseling, or get legal counsel how to make her hold the bags with some scheming. Killing to end up jailed for life makes himself hold the bag.
Bankruptcy isn't the end of the world which is why he didn't kill his wife over the bankruptcy.
Divorce would have ruined him however as explained in
Let's say they divorce. Here's what Chris would have been in for.
1. Chris makes $5k a month.
2. With three kids, that's $1.1k in child support.
3. In alimony, he's likely be paying another $1k. So now we're at $2.1k.
4. As for their house, they owed $3k a month in mortgage. In all likelihood, the house would have been awarded to Shannan and the kids but remain in both Chris and Shannan's name (and before you think "ah well Chris could sell" the courts would issue an order not allowing him to do so for 18 years, until his unborn daughter was of legal age). The mortgage would be split, so Chris would be paying $1.5k on it a month. So we're looking at $3.6k now. Sidenote: they were behind on payments and Shannan took out a loan against Chris's 401k to pay them which sucks for Chris.
5. They racked up $450k in debt which declaring bankruptcy reduced to $70k. Minimum payments on that would be $1750, and that split in half is $875. So now we're looking at $4.5k a month for Chris.
6. They had zero savings.
7. Chris makes $5k but now owes an estimated $4.5k, leaving him $500 a month for himself to live off of which is insane but this is a common situation for men.
8. In all likelihood he'd be constantly behind on payments just to live with people calling him a "deadbeat dad." Again, sad but common.
9. The best case scenario is he moves in with Nichol Kessinger. Would she have stayed by his side? I'm not so sure. She did cut off ties with him after the murder of his wife and kids, but that's murder. Still, I'm not so sure she'd continue to put up with him.
10. He could move back in with his parents but that would mean giving up his job as they lived nowhere near him. Also the intense shame of moving back in with your parents and them shitting on you for not taking care of your wife and kids.
11. There's a very likely chance Chris would have been living out of his car struggling to make it work and eventually this would break him.
SUMMARY: Chris was fricked.
. The amount he would have owed against how much he would have made is just insane.
Even with a divorce lawyer (that costs money) he's still going to be owing $4.5k a month on a $5k a month salary because that's how fricked their financials are.
Honestly, prison is the better option when the alternative is living on the street in debt. Not that I'm advocating for murder but that's the reality. Of course Chris was a moron who thought he'd get away with it.
>prison is the better option when the alternative is living on the street in debt.
Only the institutionalized and npcs think this. There are thousands of guys working under the table that are living comfortable right now.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You think being a wageslave living in poverty conditions just so you can give 90% of your income to people who actively hate you is better than being in prison. That's an NPC mindset. That's a slave mindset. Forget prison, he's better off fricking dead at that point.
The suicide death rate for divorced men is NINE TIMES HIGHER than it is for divorced women. Gee, wonder why so many men choose death over literal slavery.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Just flee the country, literally anything is better than prison.
5 months ago
Anonymous
people keep saying this but don't think it through
he had no money, no 100k frick off fund, NOTHING
he was living month-to-month
sure, he could go to Guam or Hawaii without getting a foreign visa and probably hide from Shananan's lawyers, but he'd be living in a tent on the beach eating out of bins
I'd probably still choose that over divorce wageslavery or prison, but it's hardly a magic solution
5 months ago
Anonymous
Ok fine glad you agree prison is worse.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Just flee the country
He has no money to do so and even if he did what would he do? He flees to Mexico and then what. Now he's in Mexico with no money and no way to get legal employment. He can't speak the language and he's probably just going to be killed or eventually deported.
The only possible way that could work is if he got some shitty ESL job in like China or Korea for like $1.8k a month, but by 2018 the ESL job market was beyond dead compared to a decade prior when it might have worked for him. And that's a temporary solution because eventually he'd be forced back home when they no longer wish to rehire him due to him when he hits 40. >literally anything is better than prison
Prison isn't as bad as you think it is. Death isn't better. Being a divorced dad living in his work truck slaving away at a job so you can pay tribute to the c**t who ruined your life isn't better.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Prison isn't as bad as you think it is.
That's his life. Thats it. With literally every option there is a chance, however small, that it could work out. There is NOTHING good about prison.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Going to prison beats being Shannan's slave for the rest of your life.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Going to prison beats being Shannan's slave for the rest of your life.
I wouldn't mind being her slave if she shrunk me or something
haha j/k
5 months ago
Anonymous
You think ceding control to others is a justifiable escape from your circumstances. I'd rather be free under my own choices than be told when and where to eat, shit, and walk for the rest of my life.
5 months ago
Anonymous
What freedom do you have forced to wageslave away 90% of your income to the prostitute who hates you? That shit ain't freedom. That's slavery.
>You think being a wageslave living in poverty conditions just so you can give 90% of your income to people who actively hate you is better than being in prison
Prison is quite literally being a slave living in poverty conditions just so you can give 100% of your labour to the State, who hate you
life in prison is pretty much the worst possible outcome he could have chosen.
No, living on the streets is worse than prison. You're safer, you get fed, you have a roof over your head. Depending on the prison you can get a television and even video games. Did you know they make TVs and video games specifically for prison? It's wild.
Right now Chris Watts is in a better situation than he was facing with the divorce.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Priaon is textbook slavery too and theres literally 0 chance of leaving for him why tf is that ao hard for you to understand
5 months ago
Anonymous
The choices are
1) Be Shannan's slave for the rest of your days. Toil in abject poverty just to pay your monthly 90% tithe to the queen b***h who is fricking you in your ass.
2) Go to prison and chill around for the rest of your life. You're better fed and better housed and live a relatively more comfortable life. Don't have to do shit all. He just sits around all day reading the Bible and jerking off to letters and sexy pictures women send to him. No job to go to. No work. It's basically the NEET life.
5 months ago
Anonymous
3) go and hide out in hawaii, become a cash in hand waiter/bartender and spend the rest of your life banging teenagers and living in a shack on tropical beach
5 months ago
Anonymous
Hawaii is expensive and he has no money and it's the US so good luck trying to avoid paying your bills in the US and there's pretty much no one who is going to hire him to work under the table and even if they did he'd just get caught and go to prison for that.
You're living in a moronic fantasy world.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>there's pretty much no one who is going to hire him to work under the table
wrong, I know somebody doing this right now. It's easy as long as you're not completely socially moronic. The owner gets to avoid tax and underpay staff, it's a win/win situation. >Hawaii is expensive
So live a simple life in a tiny shack eating rice and beans. You're still on a paradise tier island and not in prison or being financially raped by your ex-wife >he'd just get caught and go to prison for that.
maybe but it's better than going to prison for killing your kids. Men need HOPE, PLAY and DANGER to not be depressed. My solution offers all 3.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Hawaii is expensive and he has no money and it's the US so good luck trying to avoid paying your bills in the US and there's pretty much no one who is going to hire him to work under the table and even if they did he'd just get caught and go to prison for that.
You're living in a moronic fantasy world.
>there's pretty much no one who is going to hire him to work under the table
wrong, I know somebody doing this right now. It's easy as long as you're not completely socially moronic. The owner gets to avoid tax and underpay staff, it's a win/win situation. >Hawaii is expensive
So live a simple life in a tiny shack eating rice and beans. You're still on a paradise tier island and not in prison or being financially raped by your ex-wife >he'd just get caught and go to prison for that.
maybe but it's better than going to prison for killing your kids. Men need HOPE, PLAY and DANGER to not be depressed. My solution offers all 3.
Let's say that moronic plan did work out.
- He'd be paid next to nothing. Minimum wage doesn't exist when you're paid under the table.
- Any tip he gets would go to the owner. "But that's illegal!" Again, working under the table means you aren't protected by labor laws.
- He'd be forced to work the worst hours and do the worst jobs for next to nothing. Again, no labor laws to protect him.
- Hawaii is an expensive place to live and he'd be living off the streets.
- As such, there goes any job as a waiter or bartender because now he's a smelly bum. He'd be forced into below minimum wage poverty manual labor.
- Eventually he'd wise up to the fact that he can make more simply panhandling. Why is he even in Hawaii to be a homeless beggar?
- Living on the streets is dangerous. He's going to get beaten up, mugged, and potentially murdered.
- No girl is going to frick him. The only sex he'll get is when another homeless man rapes him.
- To cope with the pain of his life, he'll resort to drugs and alcohol.
- Eventually he'll die in a pool of his own failure.
Versus just sitting around in prison and exercising and reading the Bible.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'd rather be a homeless man on a tropical beach than in federal prison. You sound really dumb so I can't be bothered to debate much with someone who unironically thinks life in prison is worse than being a beach bum on a tropical island. >- No girl is going to frick him. The only sex he'll get is when another homeless man rapes him.
the most pussy I ever got in my life was when I was living like that after graduating, before I could bring myself to get a job. Girls don't give a shit how much money you have when it's a casual vacation frick. They only think like that with relationships. Chris was ripped, white and the ideal age to bang party bawds rebelling against their boring middle class families on vacation.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I'd rather be a homeless man on a tropical beach than in federal prison.
And now you're arrested for loitering and tossed into a jail cell where you get raped. Meanwhile, Chris Watts is rape-free in his NEET cell.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Didn't they find out him and another man were fricking each other?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yep. Chris was raping a dude in prison so they put him in lockdown. He's now in 23 hour lockdown.
John Gotti got the shit kicked out of him and he was in solitary
John Gotti had powerful people paying off prison guards to frick with him. Chris doesn't. Only people who give a frick about Chris are weirdos like you who make these threads every day obsessing over him, and desperate women who think they can fix him by fricking him.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Well yeah, it wouldn't work if you're a pushover homosexual
5 months ago
Anonymous
It wouldn't work because it's a dumb plan.
But it'd be funny to see a moron like you try. It'd be funny to see you walk into some Hawaiian bar and demand to be paid $1000 an hour illegally to bartend when you have no bartending experience and you're some weird asocial autist whose lips have never touched a drop of alcohol. Doesn't matter how assertive you think you are, you'd just be laughed at.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>It'd be funny to see you walk into some Hawaiian bar and demand to be paid $1000 an hour illegally to bartend when you have no bartending experience and you're some weird asocial autist whose lips have never touched a drop of alcohol. Doesn't matter how assertive you think you are, you'd just be laughed at. >demand to be paid $1000 an hour
no, $10 will do it >when you have no bartending experience and you're some weird asocial autist whose lips have never touched a drop of alcohol.
I have experience, I'm quite good looking and make freinds easily and I'm a functioning alcoholic. In fact I'm drinking rum and sprite right now. >Doesn't matter how assertive you think you are, you'd just be laughed at.
people laugh with me, not at me
cope
5 months ago
Anonymous
They won't even pay you ten bucks, you're lying about yourself, and I'm laughing at you right now because you're making shit up on Cinemaphile in a Chris Watts thread in a desperate attempt to appear cool while saying you would work for a meagerly ten bucks an hour.
5 months ago
Anonymous
See
They won't even pay you ten bucks, you're lying about yourself, and I'm laughing at you right now because you're making shit up on Cinemaphile in a Chris Watts thread in a desperate attempt to appear cool while saying you would work for a meagerly ten bucks an hour.
You're spending your time (on NYE mind you) shitposting in an off-topic thread on Cinemaphile. You're no better than any of us lmao
5 months ago
Anonymous
>rum and sprite
lmfao
5 months ago
Anonymous
Why do I have to be the nerfed character you made up in this situation?
5 months ago
Anonymous
You are in PRISON you fricking idiot, youre grossly overestimating how chill it is
5 months ago
Anonymous
Prison is pretty fricking chill. You think it's like Oz because you're a moron. Dude is on 23 hour lockdown. It's just him in his room all day, which is your life except he exercises and reads the Bible.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Dude is on 23 hour lockdown
Thats not chill, it's maddening. Youre fricking delusional, and possibly an actual NPC if you think thats preferable in any way to roughing it out
5 months ago
Anonymous
He spends all day reading the Bible, exercising, finding God, reading letters from horny women, jerking off to the pics they send him, writing them back, reading the Bible some more, eating, sleeping, shitting, pissing, and showering.
He doesn't have to worry about a job. He doesn't have to worry about a family. He doesn't have to worry about where he'll sleep the next night or what/when his next meal will be. He doesn't need to worry what people will think of him. He doesn't need to constantly watch his back and worry that some kids or whatever will decide to beat the shit out of him and steal his money and rape him because he's homeless and an easy target. He is quite literally care-free.
That's a very peaceful existence.
5 months ago
Anonymous
If that sounds like "life" to you, youre not gonna make it my man. Good luck
5 months ago
Anonymous
I've already made it anon. Don't worry about me. Worry about yourself.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>He doesn't need to constantly watch his back and worry that some kids or whatever will decide to beat the shit out of him and steal his money and rape him
yeah prison is real safe like that
5 months ago
Anonymous
23 hour lockdown is safe as frick.
5 months ago
Anonymous
John Gotti got the shit kicked out of him and he was in solitary
5 months ago
Anonymous
he spends all day in mental agony at the thought of Nicole fricking some black guy off eharmony while he sits alone in a concrete box the size of my spare bathroom until he eventually gets cancer or heart disease and will be buried and forgotten in a prison cemetary. He will never go for a walk in the woods, feel the breeze rippling his shirt, try a new restaurant, have sex with a woman, feel affection or meaningful connections with other humans ever again.
It is a fate worse than death and you are a fricking moron
5 months ago
Anonymous
>He will never go for a walk in the woods, feel the breeze rippling his shirt, try a new restaurant, have sex with a woman, feel affection or meaningful connections with other humans ever again.
You are describing your own life, anon, except Chris had sex and you didn't. Chris has women writing to him and sending him nude pics and you don't. Chris has God and you're godless.
Face it, kid: Chris won.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sitting in my beachfront apartment, which I own outright, while my girlfriend is out buying ice and drinks for tonight. I will spend the rest of today drinking, having fun conversation with my gf's family, playing with the dog and watching the sun set.
Sure 'Chris won', you low effort troll
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm sitting in my beachfront apartment, which I own outright, while my girlfriend is out buying ice and drinks for tonight. I will spend the rest of today drinking, having fun conversation with my gf's family, playing with the dog and watching the sun set.
Pure fantasy.
You're sitting in a cramped basement to a house your mom owns spending all day jerking off on Cinemaphile. You're basically in a prison of your own making except unlike Chris you don't have fanmail, you're a virgin (with rage), and you don't have Jesus.
When Chris dies, he will go to Heaven if he truly has accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior, which is what it looks like. By all accounts, he's found religion. Meanwhile, Shannan, his kids, and you will be burning in Hell because you have not found God. I hope unlike Shannan and his kids you do find God and can stand beside Chris in God's Glorious Kingdom, but considering your life so far, I doubt it.
Basically, in life and in death, Chris has already won.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>all that text
lel
5 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't expect you to read it because it's the truth and you're clearly trying to reject the truth and live in a fantasy world.
5 months ago
Anonymous
didn't read, stay mad homosexual
5 months ago
Anonymous
Keep hiding from the truth. You'll face the consequences in the end. Jesus is our Lord and the only way into Heaven is accepting Him as such.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I read it and found Christ. My new years resolution is to now attend traditional latin masses every Sunday
5 months ago
Anonymous
>(he will never) have sex with a woman, feel affection or meaningful connections with other humans ever again.
Me neither, but at least I'm not in prison.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>He doesnt need to constantly watch his back
Unless he's in protective custody, he absolutely does. This lame is 100% greenlit for having killed kids
5 months ago
Anonymous
You think CW would have gotten much more sympathy from the public if he only killed his wife?
5 months ago
Anonymous
The public is irrelevant, prison gangs kill you if you have charges involving harm to children
5 months ago
Anonymous
He's in 23 hour lockdown now and nobody is going to fork out money to hire a hitman to get him so no he doesn't.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I agree with you that it's not like tv where you have to cork your butthole to avoid being surprise raped but the loss of freedom is a real b***h to put it lightly you can do anything it drives you crazy.
5 months ago
Anonymous
*Can't do anything.
5 months ago
Anonymous
That still sounds awful.
5 months ago
Anonymous
If he can't post on Cinemaphile from prison, what kinda life is it?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Either he's memeing or he really thinks living in a smelly concrete box for the rest of your life being served shitty food by the state, forced inspections, and forced labor is the way to be. If it's the latter, he needs to commit a big crime asap to win that sweet prison life.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>forced labor
Chris Watts doesn't do forced labor. He's on 23 hour lockdown with 1 hour out for exercise. He just sits in a room all day then goes out an hour a day to exercise. So in other words he's like you except for the part where he goes out of his room and exercises.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>You think being a wageslave living in poverty conditions just so you can give 90% of your income to people who actively hate you is better than being in prison
Prison is quite literally being a slave living in poverty conditions just so you can give 100% of your labour to the State, who hate you
life in prison is pretty much the worst possible outcome he could have chosen.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Prison is quite literally being a slave
You weren't there, how'd you know? lmao
>He was too embarrassed to admit he told her that and she and the kids immediately attacked him. Self defense
Somebody should make a movie about a normal family man who starts to suspect his wife and young kids are plotting to murder him. Like they've been possessed or replaced by changlings or something.
wives kill their husbands often.
they usually get away with it because they slowly poison them and everyone goes bloo bloo boo hoo for muh crying widow.
FINE!
I'm gonna take the kids, take all your past, current, and future earnings, the house, your truck and raise the kids to think their father is a worthless, ass drunk bum.
Bruh look at his eyes, he 100% murdered them all in a fit of (ass)drunken rage. Also I assume all these threads are being made by the dreading YouTube guy so you can say "look at all these trolls saying shannan deserved to get killed".
I honestly believe he killed them because he didn't want to damage his whole nice guy persona. During the interogation when they ask why should they believe he didn't murder his family he goes off about how people view him as a calm and trustworthy guy. Literally the only time he breaks down crying is when he realizes his coworkers will find out about the murders at the site.
SMASHING THROUGH THE BOUNDARIES, LUNACY HAS FOUND ME
CANNOT STOP THE BATTERY
POUNDING OUT AGGRESSION, TURNS INTO OBSESSION
CANNOT KILL THE BATTERY
CANNOT KILL THE FAMILY, BATTERY IS FOUND IN ME
BATTERY, BATTERY
>lose 25% of income to child support >lose another 25% for alimony, >turn over house to wife and kids and move into a shitty 1 bedroom apartment because that's all you can afford >moron wife moves new bf into your house to raise your kids >work hottie leaves because you're financially fricked for the rest of your life
Yep, divorce is the way to go
The courts only rule against you in a divorce if they think you won’t fight.
My father faked and illness, got himself fired from his 6 figure position and lived with his parents while suing his own lawyers
Courts reduced everything lol. You just can’t look like a pay pig
Because the vast majority of blacks can't or won't get married while most of the ones that do are usually pretty conservative and don't believe in divorce.
Also, black women are brutish and ogrely while white women are overly entitled and think that everything belongs to them
Because the vast majority of blacks can't or won't get married while most of the ones that do are usually pretty conservative and don't believe in divorce.
Also, black women are brutish and ogrely while white women are overly entitled and think that everything belongs to them
common law will consider you defacto married if you simply live together long enough
t not a lawyer
this is unironically true where I live, I share an apartment with my gf of 1 year and she would be legally entitled to take half my shit if we broke up. Luckily I have offshore accounts and a foreign passport but in general this law holds true, and it's pretty insane
The fat b***h managed to make the man plan the assassination of his current gf to go back with him
Idk if he was assdruk
He pretended a car problem on a fast road and his ex ran over her
he snitched on her and later on himself days later
massive moron
Chris Watts honestly had no choice. Put yourself in his shoes. his girlfriend would literally spread her big brown poop hole and get it nice and stretched out so he could lube his weiner up with her butt cream and she would plop it down on that weiner and ride it till it made a fart vacuum in her butt cavity that literally would suck the sperm juice from his balls. He was so ass drunk after that he killed his family with his smelly poop wiener in his pants
because she was a narcisstic c**t who thrived off of humiliating and insulting Chris even as she spent every dollar of his salary
she was also in a feud with Chris' family, who hated her guts
You dont get it. If you are getting prime pussy (or girl bussy in this case) from a hot 20 something bawd it changes a mans mind. After that theres no way a man is going to deal with some mid life b***h wife, especially if she brings nothing to the table but problems.
>stay at home wife, so no extra income >doesnt even take care of the kids
She was a net drain. Im not at all saying she deserved to be murdered, but this whole episode highlights how horrible the modern middle class American family has devolved.
idk why it's taken like 6 threads of lurking throughout the year to finally see this again.
Original anon who wrote this was a genius at simplicity and I hope he's doing well this holiday weekend
did anyone watch that hour long youtube doc someone mad on the anal bawd recently that seems to imply she had a role in the murder? i have it on the backburner so havent seen it yet but i parused the comments and they all seem convinced she's complicit in what chris did. it's pretty wild, i didnt think there was too much known about her
Shanaananan got pregnant again and when Chris killed her she shit her pants so much she gave birth and the bloody foetus was dangling out of her pussy as Chris dragged her downstairs. The kid saw this happening, so she had to be killed too
Let's say they divorce. Here's what Chris would have been in for.
1. Chris makes $5k a month.
2. With three kids, that's $1.1k in child support.
3. In alimony, he's likely be paying another $1k. So now we're at $2.1k.
4. As for their house, they owed $3k a month in mortgage. In all likelihood, the house would have been awarded to Shannan and the kids but remain in both Chris and Shannan's name (and before you think "ah well Chris could sell" the courts would issue an order not allowing him to do so for 18 years, until his unborn daughter was of legal age). The mortgage would be split, so Chris would be paying $1.5k on it a month. So we're looking at $3.6k now. Sidenote: they were behind on payments and Shannan took out a loan against Chris's 401k to pay them which sucks for Chris.
5. They racked up $450k in debt which declaring bankruptcy reduced to $70k. Minimum payments on that would be $1750, and that split in half is $875. So now we're looking at $4.5k a month for Chris.
6. They had zero savings.
7. Chris makes $5k but now owes an estimated $4.5k, leaving him $500 a month for himself to live off of which is insane but this is a common situation for men.
8. In all likelihood he'd be constantly behind on payments just to live with people calling him a "deadbeat dad." Again, sad but common.
9. The best case scenario is he moves in with Nichol Kessinger. Would she have stayed by his side? I'm not so sure. She did cut off ties with him after the murder of his wife and kids, but that's murder. Still, I'm not so sure she'd continue to put up with him.
10. He could move back in with his parents but that would mean giving up his job as they lived nowhere near him. Also the intense shame of moving back in with your parents and them shitting on you for not taking care of your wife and kids.
11. There's a very likely chance Chris would have been living out of his car struggling to make it work and eventually this would break him.
SUMMARY: Chris was fricked.
Something people dont consider with a stay at home mom in a divorce situation is that the court will award her half of what you made based on the idea that she helped and "earned" that half by taking care of the home while you worked. This happens basically no matter what, even in cases where they still payed for a daycare because the mother was too lazy to take care of her own children, or if they hired a maid to clean the home ect.
Ah yes, moving back in with mom and pop and having to hear them gripe at you some is basically just as bad as quadruple homicide. Yes, he really had no choices here.
Ironically his mom hated Shannan since day 1. If he'd moved back home and left her, his mom would have had him stay as long as he liked and fully funded his divorce no question. Chris made the wrong step at every turn, it's wild.
He'd be getting that cash from a job where they're garnish his wages if he failed to pay. Otherwise he's forced to turn to illegal methods of getting money such as selling drugs which will just lead to prison time anyway. Or you're asking him to become homeless and beg for a living which means he gets raped and killed on the streets by another crazy hobo. Maybe not even in that order.
I don't know, a peaceful life in a prison cell alone reading the Bible and finding God sounds much better than the alternatives.
It's obvious now but he should have just stayed married and raised his son. Could have told his wife he was cheating. She'd be mad but eventually accept it
just have seperate accounts but split most things. I don't see how this isn't obvious. I pay half the rent, every other grocery shop, half the utility bills etc. It comes out of my account or hers, and then we give each other cash or transfer money.
I don't get why everyone doesnt' do this.
It's fricking moronic to share a bank account with another human being
People get married because the other person is just there once they reach their late 20s/early 30s. That’s it, that’s why shit like this happens. I think marriage has always been like this to some degree, but people used to do it knowing that that’s what it was, and it was a contractual/utilitarian way of a man and woman relying on each other. Now people think it’s only about “love” when they don’t even have that and some of these couples genuinely don’t even like each other.
Marriage in non western cultures was typically the result of a power dynamic where the man had complete authority over the family, life and death kind of stuff. This was an incredible deal for the man, you take all the responsibility/consequences for the actions of your family/families and you have the ability to rein them in. Honor killing wasnt really common in the west and multi generational dwellings were necessary so there would be less power dynamics at play. Think about it this way, you are still living with your parents and brothers maybe cousins too and you have to bring a new family into your settlement/urban dwelling so you wouldnt have the total authority that a non western man would since its a shared property. This also means that you cant just marry someone your whole family hates because you are adding them to the larger family structure. America is an anomaly of men having very little authority, families not living together, and marriage being an individual decision rather than a collective decision. Individuals make short sighted choices and theres very little either partner can do to change the marriage outside of divorce because they lack authority.
Tldr: bring back honor killings and arranged marriages and chris watts never would have happened
Absolute power corrupts. In theory men in control need to own their mistakes. They don't if they can help it. Which is how the cycles of abuse led to feminism. Action begets reaction.
Secular marriage only exists these days to make women and gay people feel special
If you don't plan on having kids I say don't even bother getting married, and even if you do have kids it is essentially the same thing legally even with a prenup.
I don't understand why these guys don't plan out the murder better, they always cut their wife into pieces or strangle them and drag their corpse out of the house.
Literally go to a drug dealer and get some painkillers, crush a small amount into her food and drinks for a month, once it's rooted in her system put a shitload and make her overdose.
Wait till she's in the bathtub, wear a thick jacket so she can't claw at your arms and then just hold her underwater and say she drowned.
this, killing Shanaan was the correct decision. Strangling her with your bare hands until she shits out her unborn kid and then driving her to your workplace with the GPS on while your neighbour films you... not so smart
While we're on the topic of husbands who killed their wives, I recently looked into the Scott Peterson case.
Did you guys know that there was absolutely no physical evidence tying him to his wife's death and he never admitted guilt, he was basically convicted because he was having an affair and the jury figured if he's having an affair he's a bad man.
When I was a kid and that case was going on the media painted him as this evil frick who definitely did it, it's total bullshit.
I had an uncle who was on death row, he didn't seem to mind it (although he was like 250lbs of muscle so he didn't have to worry about rape) he would always call us and sound so excited about trivial things like how they had his favorite flavor of ice cream in the commissary one time.
Breaking up is hard, i've been stuck in a relationship i want out of for almost 6 months now because chains of moments when "it'd be fricked up to break up during" keep popping up, from birthdays to weddings to family members of her dying.
Being married is gotta be even harder, i'm started to understand why going full Benoit can start to seem tempting as an out tbh.
I've been there where you're like stuck in a dead relationship but also it's hard to properly break up, but ultimately it was for the best that we did.
In Chris's case however, he would have been better off staying with Shannan if he had that option. Even just financially, despite the fact that she's why they're in debt, divorcing a woman with three kids is a worse option. Thing is I don't know who initiated the divorce talks. I'd assume Shannan did because it's usually the woman who does, and she may have even known about the cheating. But I also think he initiated it because he thought he could move forward with his affair. And if that's the case he was just dumb because she would have taken him to the cleaners in court and he'd be in an even worse financial and living situation.
I know people love to villainize Shannan but reality is he was better off just staying with her.
>you can't brutally murder your wife and children because >because you just can't ok?
As the man of the house, he had the power of life and death over them. That's the social contract of marriage and fatherhood. If they didn't want to get stuffed in a barrel then they should have picked a better man or made him happy.
Previous generations understood this.
"Shannon, get a fricking job - working at McDonalds is a brighter future than blowing my money on bullshit no one wants to buy on facebook from you when if it was a product people actually purchased, it would be sold on amazon or their own website you fricking moron. also police those chicken nugget throwing fricktard children'
how hard was that?
He couldn't just simply divorce her because she doesn't have a job and hasn't had one and they would give her custody and half his paycheck or more for the rest of his life
He should have plead not guilty due to insanity. Seriously, what were his lawyers doing? He had multiple concussions and measurable cranial bleeding as a result of chicken nuggets getting hurled at his head every day. He developed memory loss and early onset dementia. Give him a break.
While many don't know this, many institutions have a separate wing allocated to mental disorders caused by food fight related injuries. There is precedent for them being released early once they are around people who decide to put food in their mouth instead of lobbing it at others. It's very effective treatment. He would have been out in a few years and could get on with his life.
What if they just had a very smart dog who could also drive? Why didn't the police investigate if the dog did it? The dog was clearly the most suspicious.
In massive financial debt and would have had his life destroyed by child support payments anyways.
Honestly he may have had the support of a jury for what she did to the family if he only dealt with her and not the kids. That's where he fricked up. It's also kind of hard to understand why he did that.
The lesson here is never marry an extrovert. Marry that introvert girl whom no one will notice that she's missing until months later.
Wasn't it that she didn't call or something despite having an appointment? But I believe it.
Yeah, but people miss those all the time. Shannan told her friend about the appointment and that friend called the office to see if she'd arrived before she called the police. They were also selling the house, and the realtor noted Shannan not answering messages too.
He was in massive debt due to her financial mismanagement. There was no escape for him
It's insane how financially fricked over she made them. Dude was too much of a pussy to tell her to get a real job
Reminder that Shannananan made Chris pay for a babysitter even though she didn’t have a job, just so she could sit in the other room away from her children on social media to ‘network’ and have ‘mommy time’ while Chris was at work.
qrd
He made about 70k a year as oil contractor
She took all his money and did all the financial rulings
>Incompetent actions include spending tens of thousands on shitty MLM schemes
>spending thousand a month on a private daycare for her kids even though she was a stay at home mom lmao
>spending thousands and thousands on doctors to try and diagnose their children so she could post on Facebook to get sympathy
>bought a McMansion they couldn’t really afford or barely afford
So basically Chris made enough money for his wife and kids to live relatively comfortably but Shannon mismanaged all the money so badly that Chris was basically trapped as a broke wageslave for the rest of his life
no matter what, what Chris did was really fricked up. However, I find it amusing how everyone acts like for mlm shit was benefiting the family and that mlm wasn't totally a scam
>spending thousand a month on a private daycare for her kids even though she was a stay at home mom lmao
OKAAAY KILL HER
>Harry? You're alive!
>and you're a horrible shot!
Sheeeesh
I would lose my shit too, but this thing must have been for years, he was too dumb and pussy to get the hang of it.
The problem is Chris never grew a backbone and just said no. He never put his foot down which meant Shananan thought she wore the pants and could dictate all the finances. Him not manning up was the catalyst towards all this
>The problem is Chris never grew a backbone and just said no
The homie killed his wife and children. Do you have the backbone to do that?
He grew his backbone at the wrong time.
Then why aren't more men killing their families? overspending into debt hell is not special.
>Then why aren't more men killing their families?
Not every dude is a narcissist and a dimwit.
thousand a month on a private daycare for her kids even though she was a stay at home mom lmao
MASTER OF PUPPETS I'M PULLING YOUR STRINGS
Al Bundy would never kill his family, for shame
His favorite show was Psycho Dad. I disagree with your thesis. I don't think Al planned to kill his family but would be pretty much okay with it if it all went down.
If he only had killed shanaan and I would have though it was a fair murder.
>letting the stay at home mcmansion suburb wife manage finances
Bonehead move. The Suburbia middle class yet still living above your means life is a complete toilet.
but why kill the kids?
they were witnesses
if you kill your wife it'll 99% always get found out so that's a moot point. could just tell them you were wrestling with mommy and she sleepy.
It’s possible they weren’t even his.
the true story is they walked in on him moving the body of the mom. they saw her dead and started screaming
I am me tho
What the frick is this?
Visualization board. Its a corny thing middle class women do. They make a board with all their wants written on it and it has some sort of hippie new age magic effect of making it real by "manifesting it"
This small town girl shit is legit more insane and unhinged than like alt girls.
I unironically believe in manifestation but I do it by imagining/fantasizing shit I want while I'm lifting weights or daydreaming or whatever not by making some gay moodboard with cliches and empty buzzwords all over it
Manifestation works in the way that if you really do focus and obsess over something like accomplishing a certain goal, then your brain will be hardwired to focus on achieving it by incremental steps and after a while, you will accomplish it. But thats not how these women treat these boards.
They think that if they write it down on a board in an arts and crafts project, God or the universe will magic it to them for being good people or something.
a red flag
Why are women like this? Sincere question. Do they really believe this or is some kind of cope mechanism?
imagine being a grown up b***h with children and having a magic wall like this.
The secret with women is really keeping them at an appropriate distance. Not too far that you aren't sleeping with them, but not too close that they ever feel safe and secure enough to do shit like that, let alone show it to you.
this is so deranged I don't even know where to start
I do lol at the idea that even when she's impossibly successful she still only sees her parents 1x/yr
once you see the depth that these kinds of self-help schemes go it's a truly psychotic rabbit hole
When you see this can you really blame him for killing his wife? Any sane man would want to do so. Why he would kill his kids is a mystery to me though. Maybe he saw that they were turning into his wife? And that angered him?
so where does this "let the wife do your finances" meme come from?
What?
It's the older structure of things. Men would bring home the bacon and women would cook the bacon. Bank hours are such that you can't do your financials as a man working a real job as every bank is long closed before you get off work but are perfect for stay-at-home housewives. And banks set it up like this on purpose so they could frick over dumb housewives.
are you japanese
you fricking fascist
best advice my pops ever gave me - get separate bank accounts
They had separate bank accounts. Both were completely empty.
My parents told me the only woman worth marrying is one that you know you can share an account with. Theyve been married for like 34 years but I dont think Im that lucky
Better advice is separate credit cards. If you get divorced typically you have to split whatever debts you incurred during your marriage 50/50 but if they took on credit card debt in their name alone, they're stuck paying that.
In Chris's case, if that $450k credit card debt (reduced to $70k in the bankruptcy) was all in her name, he'd be standing in a much better financial situation in the divorce. However, as we know from the bankruptcy that they jointly filed, the credit debt was in both their names.
>took on credit card debt in their name alone, they're stuck paying that.
Depends on the state. Some jurisdictions go by the date the debt was accrued (before or after marriage). In Texas, ANYTHING after marriage is considered community property, except gifts or inheritance. But, this is why you go to mediation, so you have an agreement that gets put into the final decree that says hey this debt is her responsibility. The judge will likely split the baby like solomon if you dont have a mediated settlement agreement.
why the frick would you let a woman handle your money? I've met like 2 finance savy women in my life. Every other b***h threw money out and lived paycheck to paycheck like the morons that women are
women dont understand money or saving.
Cinemaphile & /misc/ see this & still say "ANON, YOU STILL NEED TO GET MARRIED & HAVE KIDS! ... Because you just do, OKAY?!?!?!
Just don’t get married. You can have a GF, just don’t marry her. If she’s got a problem with that, then it ain’t meant to be.
>Just don’t get married. You can have a GF, just don’t marry her. If she’s got a problem with that, then it ain’t meant to be.
That's actually my plan if I decide to seek out romance & I find "The One."
I'm married and basically my life is pretty much fricked if I get divorced. However my life married is pretty damn good and better than when I was just dating so I guess that's the trade-off.
Would common law status not screw you just as bad?
Depends where you live. That or just don’t let her live with you.
Depends on the state. If you're dating past 20 years you might as well get married for legal purposes anyway. Trust me you don't want to be in the situation where your gf dies and her family who you hate inherits half of the things in your house.
More or less yes if you choose to live together.
I'm married because I wanted to have kids which I now have and that's the advice I would give to you. You should get married to have kids. Marriage is for creating a family with a mommy and a daddy and a baby (or multiple babies). If you don't want that just don't get married.
>He made about 70k a year as oil contractor
In Colorado with a mortgage for a $600k house with two kids and another one on the way. After taxes it's like $50k
His house was like 500k when she disappeared - he most likely bought it for 400-450
>Chris made enough money for his wife and kids to live relatively comfortably
>$70k
maybe I'm out of touch but I can't imagine raising a family with this household income
You are.
>blacks and mexicans making no money have 5 kids each and live very comfortably
gee golly!
>very comfortably
They live in run down apartments in the ghetto/barrio.
The dumb ones.
The smart ones get their baby daddy to buy a house, and not be married to them - then they get section 8 voucher and the government pays for the house entirely, and then pays them to live there after it's paid off.
Meanwhile they get their phone, diapers, food, and oil/heat paid for by YOU the tax payer.
You don't know how section 8 works
I do - get mad
>he doesn't think that black people are being told to divorce their babby daddys and have him buy a house in a predominant white area and then register it as a section 8 eligible apartment and then the black mom gets a voucher well above market value because it's part of Obama era HUD plan to 'diversify overly white areas'
not even joking https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/hud-maps-suburbs-in-new-diversity-project/
weren't they in bumfrick suburban colorado? can't exactly have been bay area cost of living
They were a 30 min drive from downtown Denver, and paid $400k for the house in 2013. Not exactly peanuts
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11474445/Chris-Watts-600-000-Colorado-house-killed-wife-daughters-sells.html
yeah original anon's point was that that was too much for them, I'm just saying I imagine they could've found something more affordable still within range of his work but idk
The house wasn't a bad decision. The bad decision was racking up $450,000 in credit card debt buying shit they didn't need. Had they not done that, they'd be fine living where they did because they could afford it on the money they were making.
The article actually mentions their mortgage
>In 2015, the couple filed for bankruptcy, according to documents obtained by CBS Denver, after failing to meet their $3,000 monthly mortgage payments.
So $36k a year on housing ALONE, on a $70k gross income. That's over 50%, they set themselves up for failure trying to maintain that.
Assuming it was 30 year mortgage, they would've paid over $1 million on that home? Or was it the 15 year variety.
>spending half your paycheck on where you live
Yes, it's called being an adult. Having a place to live is pretty important which is why it ranks high on your budget, kid.
They fell behind on their mortgage due to their massive credit card debt which wasn't fully absolved in the bankruptcy, and they were late by three months which they paid off by taking out a loan against his 401k holy frick I just realized you have no fricking clue what I'm talking about because you're a fricking NEET with zero life experiences beyond playing World of Warcraft. Please go to a thread about elves where you actually can contribute to the inane discussion they're having there.
You're a fricking moron. Anyone with sense will tell you not to spend more than 36% of your gross income on houring. Even without her insane credit card spending he couldn't afford that house.
Let's say he's walking away with about $50k after taxes and call it $4200 a month. We'll be generous and say his family's health insurance premiums were only $200 a month since I have no idea what that would be in Colorado at that time.
So he's got a $3000 mortgage on a $4000 income, not to mention utilities, HOA fee, and two cars.
That's not being an adult, that's being a fricking idiot. The reason I'm so baffled by his finances is because my wife and I have a combine 300k/y income and we don't even have a 3k/m mortgage because we're not clowns
>"no it's stupid to buy a house and then take out a mortgage that you can comfortably afford if you don't rack up credit card debt"
NEET logic
>yeah bro, it's totally fine to spend 75% of your take home pay on a McMansion in an HOA
t. American dream salesman
doofus alert
https://www.chase.com/personal/mortgage/education/financing-a-home/what-percentage-income-towards-mortgage
you really shouldn't be spending much than 1/3 of your gross income on housing
>on a $70k gross income
In 2013 when they bought their house they had a combined income of $147,256.
So her being a SAHM was a meme?
Yes but also no.
From what I can tell she used to work and as time went on as she got pregnant she worked less and less and their combined income decreased as a result while they were simultaneously taking on a ton of credit card debt. Originally she was making almost as much as Chris was but I think she switched from working to doing MLM shit. Chris wound up getting a better job six months before the murders which would have helped out their financial situation.
Honestly, it wasn't a bad idea for them to buy their home. What was a bad idea was her decreasing their income stream while increasing their spending on credit.
Did he get demoted or something? Or was she the one making bank and decided to quit
Damn, he literally could have sold the house and paid for his debts
Probably low cost of living as they're in the middle of nowhere. The whole point of a stay at home parent is you save massive income on childcare. But they still used childcare for some dumb reason
They lived in Colorado springs iirc
No it was Frederick colorado
>t.colorado springs loser
>But they still used childcare for some dumb reason
It was probably a Shananananana idea to look successful on Facebook.
For any anons not in a relationship or a budding one, here’s some simple rules.
1) Have a separate bank account. If you’re splitting bills, agree on the amount you put into a joint specifically for bills/housing funds.
2) Don’t stay with a woman with zero ambition unless your job is $100k+
3) Do not let her spend your personal money if she has a job. If she wants something as a present, YOU buy it.
ok, it wasn't just the buttbawd offering herself to him, im kinda relieved about that, but still, poor kids.
the Netflix doc made her look like she was a highly successful MLM pusher. for a while I thought she scammed enough people to actually get ahead in terms of profit but apparently not
you know the crazy part the nga actually made money its just she was a fricking blackhole
>hey goverment I file for bankrupcy, what are you gonna do? take my wife's and kid's home lmao?
>debt cleared
>you're now a free man
>what are you gonna do? take my wife's and kid's home lmao?
They will if that shit hasn't been paid off (and it likely wasn't given how much of a money waster his wife was and how mildly moronic he is).
>>debt cleared
haha
not if its student loan debt
not if its certain kind of medical debt
not if its debt the judge decides you shouldn't be cleared of
AND THE LAND OF THEEEEE FREEEEEEE
>He was in massive debt due to her financial mismanagement.
wouldn't that make it better to divorce at that point? what's she gonna take half of, his debt?
no, she would take 50% of his future income, his truck, his kids, any uncrystallised investments or pensions, and his house
lmao just move to mexico for a bit, who fricking cares
>just move to mexico
he wasn't cash rich, he just had a good salary
shanan took all his savings. the moment he left for mexico he'd be broke within a few months. to get residency there you need an address and proof of solvency. He was low IQ, didn't speak Spanish, Nicole the Assdemon had no interest in uprooting her life, she just wanted casual sex.
In all honesty killing Shanaan was the right move but he should have put pills in her wine or arranged some kind of hiking accident. strangling her and burying her at his workplace, in full view of CCTV with the truck GPS turned on, was incredibly stupid.
Killing the kids was just evil.
This is one of the reasons it is a captivating case - Chris was and is a genuinely dumb guy. Not many middle class people are that stupid, and it's fascinating to observe.
Captivating case cos he let things get way out of hand before his only choice is the most extreme? Smarter guys can decide a woman is just using him as ATM machine before having a gaggle of kids, then he can't even call the CPS on her. He did what society expected of him, then couldn't think on his feet exactly what he was living for. Financial counseling, or get legal counsel how to make her hold the bags with some scheming. Killing to end up jailed for life makes himself hold the bag.
Bankruptcy is not the end of the world kek. It actually protects you from most creditors. Dude was a moronic pussy
Bankruptcy isn't the end of the world which is why he didn't kill his wife over the bankruptcy.
Divorce would have ruined him however as explained in
. The amount he would have owed against how much he would have made is just insane.
Get a divorce lawyer and go to mediation to hammer that shit out instead of letting the judge just split everything as they want.
Even with a divorce lawyer (that costs money) he's still going to be owing $4.5k a month on a $5k a month salary because that's how fricked their financials are.
Honestly, prison is the better option when the alternative is living on the street in debt. Not that I'm advocating for murder but that's the reality. Of course Chris was a moron who thought he'd get away with it.
>prison is the better option when the alternative is living on the street in debt.
Only the institutionalized and npcs think this. There are thousands of guys working under the table that are living comfortable right now.
You think being a wageslave living in poverty conditions just so you can give 90% of your income to people who actively hate you is better than being in prison. That's an NPC mindset. That's a slave mindset. Forget prison, he's better off fricking dead at that point.
The suicide death rate for divorced men is NINE TIMES HIGHER than it is for divorced women. Gee, wonder why so many men choose death over literal slavery.
Just flee the country, literally anything is better than prison.
people keep saying this but don't think it through
he had no money, no 100k frick off fund, NOTHING
he was living month-to-month
sure, he could go to Guam or Hawaii without getting a foreign visa and probably hide from Shananan's lawyers, but he'd be living in a tent on the beach eating out of bins
I'd probably still choose that over divorce wageslavery or prison, but it's hardly a magic solution
Ok fine glad you agree prison is worse.
>Just flee the country
He has no money to do so and even if he did what would he do? He flees to Mexico and then what. Now he's in Mexico with no money and no way to get legal employment. He can't speak the language and he's probably just going to be killed or eventually deported.
The only possible way that could work is if he got some shitty ESL job in like China or Korea for like $1.8k a month, but by 2018 the ESL job market was beyond dead compared to a decade prior when it might have worked for him. And that's a temporary solution because eventually he'd be forced back home when they no longer wish to rehire him due to him when he hits 40.
>literally anything is better than prison
Prison isn't as bad as you think it is. Death isn't better. Being a divorced dad living in his work truck slaving away at a job so you can pay tribute to the c**t who ruined your life isn't better.
>Prison isn't as bad as you think it is.
That's his life. Thats it. With literally every option there is a chance, however small, that it could work out. There is NOTHING good about prison.
Going to prison beats being Shannan's slave for the rest of your life.
>Going to prison beats being Shannan's slave for the rest of your life.
I wouldn't mind being her slave if she shrunk me or something
haha j/k
You think ceding control to others is a justifiable escape from your circumstances. I'd rather be free under my own choices than be told when and where to eat, shit, and walk for the rest of my life.
What freedom do you have forced to wageslave away 90% of your income to the prostitute who hates you? That shit ain't freedom. That's slavery.
No, living on the streets is worse than prison. You're safer, you get fed, you have a roof over your head. Depending on the prison you can get a television and even video games. Did you know they make TVs and video games specifically for prison? It's wild.
Right now Chris Watts is in a better situation than he was facing with the divorce.
Priaon is textbook slavery too and theres literally 0 chance of leaving for him why tf is that ao hard for you to understand
The choices are
1) Be Shannan's slave for the rest of your days. Toil in abject poverty just to pay your monthly 90% tithe to the queen b***h who is fricking you in your ass.
2) Go to prison and chill around for the rest of your life. You're better fed and better housed and live a relatively more comfortable life. Don't have to do shit all. He just sits around all day reading the Bible and jerking off to letters and sexy pictures women send to him. No job to go to. No work. It's basically the NEET life.
3) go and hide out in hawaii, become a cash in hand waiter/bartender and spend the rest of your life banging teenagers and living in a shack on tropical beach
Hawaii is expensive and he has no money and it's the US so good luck trying to avoid paying your bills in the US and there's pretty much no one who is going to hire him to work under the table and even if they did he'd just get caught and go to prison for that.
You're living in a moronic fantasy world.
>there's pretty much no one who is going to hire him to work under the table
wrong, I know somebody doing this right now. It's easy as long as you're not completely socially moronic. The owner gets to avoid tax and underpay staff, it's a win/win situation.
>Hawaii is expensive
So live a simple life in a tiny shack eating rice and beans. You're still on a paradise tier island and not in prison or being financially raped by your ex-wife
>he'd just get caught and go to prison for that.
maybe but it's better than going to prison for killing your kids. Men need HOPE, PLAY and DANGER to not be depressed. My solution offers all 3.
Let's say that moronic plan did work out.
- He'd be paid next to nothing. Minimum wage doesn't exist when you're paid under the table.
- Any tip he gets would go to the owner. "But that's illegal!" Again, working under the table means you aren't protected by labor laws.
- He'd be forced to work the worst hours and do the worst jobs for next to nothing. Again, no labor laws to protect him.
- Hawaii is an expensive place to live and he'd be living off the streets.
- As such, there goes any job as a waiter or bartender because now he's a smelly bum. He'd be forced into below minimum wage poverty manual labor.
- Eventually he'd wise up to the fact that he can make more simply panhandling. Why is he even in Hawaii to be a homeless beggar?
- Living on the streets is dangerous. He's going to get beaten up, mugged, and potentially murdered.
- No girl is going to frick him. The only sex he'll get is when another homeless man rapes him.
- To cope with the pain of his life, he'll resort to drugs and alcohol.
- Eventually he'll die in a pool of his own failure.
Versus just sitting around in prison and exercising and reading the Bible.
I'd rather be a homeless man on a tropical beach than in federal prison. You sound really dumb so I can't be bothered to debate much with someone who unironically thinks life in prison is worse than being a beach bum on a tropical island.
>- No girl is going to frick him. The only sex he'll get is when another homeless man rapes him.
the most pussy I ever got in my life was when I was living like that after graduating, before I could bring myself to get a job. Girls don't give a shit how much money you have when it's a casual vacation frick. They only think like that with relationships. Chris was ripped, white and the ideal age to bang party bawds rebelling against their boring middle class families on vacation.
>I'd rather be a homeless man on a tropical beach than in federal prison.
And now you're arrested for loitering and tossed into a jail cell where you get raped. Meanwhile, Chris Watts is rape-free in his NEET cell.
Didn't they find out him and another man were fricking each other?
Yep. Chris was raping a dude in prison so they put him in lockdown. He's now in 23 hour lockdown.
John Gotti had powerful people paying off prison guards to frick with him. Chris doesn't. Only people who give a frick about Chris are weirdos like you who make these threads every day obsessing over him, and desperate women who think they can fix him by fricking him.
Well yeah, it wouldn't work if you're a pushover homosexual
It wouldn't work because it's a dumb plan.
But it'd be funny to see a moron like you try. It'd be funny to see you walk into some Hawaiian bar and demand to be paid $1000 an hour illegally to bartend when you have no bartending experience and you're some weird asocial autist whose lips have never touched a drop of alcohol. Doesn't matter how assertive you think you are, you'd just be laughed at.
>It'd be funny to see you walk into some Hawaiian bar and demand to be paid $1000 an hour illegally to bartend when you have no bartending experience and you're some weird asocial autist whose lips have never touched a drop of alcohol. Doesn't matter how assertive you think you are, you'd just be laughed at.
>demand to be paid $1000 an hour
no, $10 will do it
>when you have no bartending experience and you're some weird asocial autist whose lips have never touched a drop of alcohol.
I have experience, I'm quite good looking and make freinds easily and I'm a functioning alcoholic. In fact I'm drinking rum and sprite right now.
>Doesn't matter how assertive you think you are, you'd just be laughed at.
people laugh with me, not at me
cope
They won't even pay you ten bucks, you're lying about yourself, and I'm laughing at you right now because you're making shit up on Cinemaphile in a Chris Watts thread in a desperate attempt to appear cool while saying you would work for a meagerly ten bucks an hour.
See
You're spending your time (on NYE mind you) shitposting in an off-topic thread on Cinemaphile. You're no better than any of us lmao
>rum and sprite
lmfao
Why do I have to be the nerfed character you made up in this situation?
You are in PRISON you fricking idiot, youre grossly overestimating how chill it is
Prison is pretty fricking chill. You think it's like Oz because you're a moron. Dude is on 23 hour lockdown. It's just him in his room all day, which is your life except he exercises and reads the Bible.
>Dude is on 23 hour lockdown
Thats not chill, it's maddening. Youre fricking delusional, and possibly an actual NPC if you think thats preferable in any way to roughing it out
He spends all day reading the Bible, exercising, finding God, reading letters from horny women, jerking off to the pics they send him, writing them back, reading the Bible some more, eating, sleeping, shitting, pissing, and showering.
He doesn't have to worry about a job. He doesn't have to worry about a family. He doesn't have to worry about where he'll sleep the next night or what/when his next meal will be. He doesn't need to worry what people will think of him. He doesn't need to constantly watch his back and worry that some kids or whatever will decide to beat the shit out of him and steal his money and rape him because he's homeless and an easy target. He is quite literally care-free.
That's a very peaceful existence.
If that sounds like "life" to you, youre not gonna make it my man. Good luck
I've already made it anon. Don't worry about me. Worry about yourself.
>He doesn't need to constantly watch his back and worry that some kids or whatever will decide to beat the shit out of him and steal his money and rape him
yeah prison is real safe like that
23 hour lockdown is safe as frick.
John Gotti got the shit kicked out of him and he was in solitary
he spends all day in mental agony at the thought of Nicole fricking some black guy off eharmony while he sits alone in a concrete box the size of my spare bathroom until he eventually gets cancer or heart disease and will be buried and forgotten in a prison cemetary. He will never go for a walk in the woods, feel the breeze rippling his shirt, try a new restaurant, have sex with a woman, feel affection or meaningful connections with other humans ever again.
It is a fate worse than death and you are a fricking moron
>He will never go for a walk in the woods, feel the breeze rippling his shirt, try a new restaurant, have sex with a woman, feel affection or meaningful connections with other humans ever again.
You are describing your own life, anon, except Chris had sex and you didn't. Chris has women writing to him and sending him nude pics and you don't. Chris has God and you're godless.
Face it, kid: Chris won.
I'm sitting in my beachfront apartment, which I own outright, while my girlfriend is out buying ice and drinks for tonight. I will spend the rest of today drinking, having fun conversation with my gf's family, playing with the dog and watching the sun set.
Sure 'Chris won', you low effort troll
>I'm sitting in my beachfront apartment, which I own outright, while my girlfriend is out buying ice and drinks for tonight. I will spend the rest of today drinking, having fun conversation with my gf's family, playing with the dog and watching the sun set.
Pure fantasy.
You're sitting in a cramped basement to a house your mom owns spending all day jerking off on Cinemaphile. You're basically in a prison of your own making except unlike Chris you don't have fanmail, you're a virgin (with rage), and you don't have Jesus.
When Chris dies, he will go to Heaven if he truly has accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior, which is what it looks like. By all accounts, he's found religion. Meanwhile, Shannan, his kids, and you will be burning in Hell because you have not found God. I hope unlike Shannan and his kids you do find God and can stand beside Chris in God's Glorious Kingdom, but considering your life so far, I doubt it.
Basically, in life and in death, Chris has already won.
>all that text
lel
I didn't expect you to read it because it's the truth and you're clearly trying to reject the truth and live in a fantasy world.
didn't read, stay mad homosexual
Keep hiding from the truth. You'll face the consequences in the end. Jesus is our Lord and the only way into Heaven is accepting Him as such.
I read it and found Christ. My new years resolution is to now attend traditional latin masses every Sunday
>(he will never) have sex with a woman, feel affection or meaningful connections with other humans ever again.
Me neither, but at least I'm not in prison.
>He doesnt need to constantly watch his back
Unless he's in protective custody, he absolutely does. This lame is 100% greenlit for having killed kids
You think CW would have gotten much more sympathy from the public if he only killed his wife?
The public is irrelevant, prison gangs kill you if you have charges involving harm to children
He's in 23 hour lockdown now and nobody is going to fork out money to hire a hitman to get him so no he doesn't.
I agree with you that it's not like tv where you have to cork your butthole to avoid being surprise raped but the loss of freedom is a real b***h to put it lightly you can do anything it drives you crazy.
*Can't do anything.
That still sounds awful.
If he can't post on Cinemaphile from prison, what kinda life is it?
Either he's memeing or he really thinks living in a smelly concrete box for the rest of your life being served shitty food by the state, forced inspections, and forced labor is the way to be. If it's the latter, he needs to commit a big crime asap to win that sweet prison life.
>forced labor
Chris Watts doesn't do forced labor. He's on 23 hour lockdown with 1 hour out for exercise. He just sits in a room all day then goes out an hour a day to exercise. So in other words he's like you except for the part where he goes out of his room and exercises.
>You think being a wageslave living in poverty conditions just so you can give 90% of your income to people who actively hate you is better than being in prison
Prison is quite literally being a slave living in poverty conditions just so you can give 100% of your labour to the State, who hate you
life in prison is pretty much the worst possible outcome he could have chosen.
>Prison is quite literally being a slave
You weren't there, how'd you know? lmao
Imagine being so mindfricked you actually think divorce is worse than spending your entire life in jail for murdering your own family.
he is a bisexual junkie moron. its why this happened.
He was too embarrassed to admit he told her that and she and the kids immediately attacked him. Self defense
>He was too embarrassed to admit he told her that and she and the kids immediately attacked him. Self defense
Somebody should make a movie about a normal family man who starts to suspect his wife and young kids are plotting to murder him. Like they've been possessed or replaced by changlings or something.
>Like they've been possessed or replaced by changlings or something.
Or they're just female.
wives kill their husbands often.
they usually get away with it because they slowly poison them and everyone goes bloo bloo boo hoo for muh crying widow.
he was assdrunk, wasn't acting rationally
>Then I tell everyone you abuse me and raped me. Have fun in jail enjoying BBC
- DIVORCE HAHAHAAHAH
Idk why thus made me laugh
>Like.....Shannon like er (pause) like I don't love you anymore like we should er......er.....like divorce and things of that nature
dont explain the logic of assdurk
Honestly should've just taken his frick buddy and left in the middle of the night to a new state
The police aren't gonna be looking for some deadbeat dad.
FINE!
I'm gonna take the kids, take all your past, current, and future earnings, the house, your truck and raise the kids to think their father is a worthless, ass drunk bum.
Pretty hard when you are under fire
>incel's defend this murdering psychopath
frick y'all.
>ya'll
Think you might of got lost on your way to reddit
Spoken like a man who's never had to endure a relentless chicken nuggies firefight.
Bruh look at his eyes, he 100% murdered them all in a fit of (ass)drunken rage. Also I assume all these threads are being made by the dreading YouTube guy so you can say "look at all these trolls saying shannan deserved to get killed".
We’ve had “Chris Watts did nothing wrong” threads for years dude, probably longer than dreading has been making videos
I honestly believe he killed them because he didn't want to damage his whole nice guy persona. During the interogation when they ask why should they believe he didn't murder his family he goes off about how people view him as a calm and trustworthy guy. Literally the only time he breaks down crying is when he realizes his coworkers will find out about the murders at the site.
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honestly he should have just divorced her, and fled the state.
*Listens to Metallica once*
>Kill your wife and kids
>YEAH YEAH
SMASHING THROUGH THE BOUNDARIES, LUNACY HAS FOUND ME
CANNOT STOP THE BATTERY
POUNDING OUT AGGRESSION, TURNS INTO OBSESSION
CANNOT KILL THE BATTERY
CANNOT KILL THE FAMILY, BATTERY IS FOUND IN ME
BATTERY, BATTERY
TAKEN MY KIDS
TAKEN MY WIFE
People who don't understand Chris' actions never inserted their penis in a woman's welcoming butthole.
This was the plan. The chicken nuggies sent him over the edge.
>hello buttgirlfriend have you heard the news? my wife and kids moved away forever. let’s party
was this really the plan to ride off into the brown sunset
Despite everything covered thus far, this all could have been avoided if Shannon offered up her butthole every now and then
Just go on vacation and say they died in the country you visited
>Her eyes filled with blood; as she looked at me and she died. I knew she was gone when she relieved herself.
>tfw ryan murphy was an accomplice
>commits crime
>neighbor has already solved the case and immediately ready to present all evidence to the police and have them take you away
Real life is always the best kino.
Now that's what I call poultry in motion!
>snaps after years of getting chicken nuggets thrown at him
THEY DREW FIRST BLOOD, NOT ME!
>lose 25% of income to child support
>lose another 25% for alimony,
>turn over house to wife and kids and move into a shitty 1 bedroom apartment because that's all you can afford
>moron wife moves new bf into your house to raise your kids
>work hottie leaves because you're financially fricked for the rest of your life
Yep, divorce is the way to go
Why are only black people smart enough to escape this hell?
The courts only rule against you in a divorce if they think you won’t fight.
My father faked and illness, got himself fired from his 6 figure position and lived with his parents while suing his own lawyers
Courts reduced everything lol. You just can’t look like a pay pig
If you aren’t going to pay, they give up
Because the vast majority of blacks can't or won't get married while most of the ones that do are usually pretty conservative and don't believe in divorce.
Also, black women are brutish and ogrely while white women are overly entitled and think that everything belongs to them
And people still wonder why nobody is getting married in this age
I'm too ugly to attract women, my relatives are polite enough to not bring it up at family affairs.
common law will consider you defacto married if you simply live together long enough
t not a lawyer
this is unironically true where I live, I share an apartment with my gf of 1 year and she would be legally entitled to take half my shit if we broke up. Luckily I have offshore accounts and a foreign passport but in general this law holds true, and it's pretty insane
The fat b***h managed to make the man plan the assassination of his current gf to go back with him
Idk if he was assdruk
He pretended a car problem on a fast road and his ex ran over her
he snitched on her and later on himself days later
massive moron
Bottom girl never gave it up while fatty was always ready to go and probably moaned a lot when they were screwing so he felt like a king
Simple as
every woman i ever be w ith a moaner,= im black
wtf
>have a wife with sexy feet
>kill her
I fricking hate normies
>Shannan, I do-*THWAP* -n't lov- *SPLAT* -e you anym *WHAP*
How the FRICK could get manage this when being terrorised by ballistic nuggies?
I frequent this sub more than two months now and keep seeing that face more than often. You guys care to explain what MOVIE is that guy related to?
The Nuggeting
pretending to be moronic is not big and it's not clever
Although many are more familiar with the Danish remake "Assdruk"
Here you go. Any other questions?
The erotic assdruk movie.
this is the TELEVISION and Film board. This documentary is on TELEVISION. And we don't have SUBS here. Now frick off back to R eddit.
Anyone got pics of the wife to dump? I need to goon
is being assdruk a national epidemic?
Wypipo are generative AI that randomly goes beserk and starts killing everyone.
>A family collapses
>Two survive
I feel like Dieter "The Dachshund" Watts gets off easy in these discussions.
Do you think it's possible he was in on it?
Chris wanted a fresh start with Nicole but was he planning on bringing Dieter along?
He would've been far easier to kill than Shannan
post the one with his kid, i know it's fricked up but it makes me laugh
Now don't laugh at this next part.
reddit
Chris Watts honestly had no choice. Put yourself in his shoes. his girlfriend would literally spread her big brown poop hole and get it nice and stretched out so he could lube his weiner up with her butt cream and she would plop it down on that weiner and ride it till it made a fart vacuum in her butt cavity that literally would suck the sperm juice from his balls. He was so ass drunk after that he killed his family with his smelly poop wiener in his pants
why not just keep cheating on your wife instead of killing her
you have no idea how serious poop possession is
because she was a narcisstic c**t who thrived off of humiliating and insulting Chris even as she spent every dollar of his salary
she was also in a feud with Chris' family, who hated her guts
You dont get it. If you are getting prime pussy (or girl bussy in this case) from a hot 20 something bawd it changes a mans mind. After that theres no way a man is going to deal with some mid life b***h wife, especially if she brings nothing to the table but problems.
>stay at home wife, so no extra income
>doesnt even take care of the kids
She was a net drain. Im not at all saying she deserved to be murdered, but this whole episode highlights how horrible the modern middle class American family has devolved.
"girl boy pussy" is lame. Women's buttholes are female for the organs it's attached to.
The theory is that the wife found out and threatened to ruin his life
>The theory is that the wife found out and threatened to ruin his life
And both she and he succeeded.
idk why it's taken like 6 threads of lurking throughout the year to finally see this again.
Original anon who wrote this was a genius at simplicity and I hope he's doing well this holiday weekend
it's literally in every thread. I make sure of it.
well you took too long on each one then fricking bastard!!
Please change "ass drunk" to "ass druk" the next time you post this.
Thanks,
Anon that enjoys copypastas
did anyone watch that hour long youtube doc someone mad on the anal bawd recently that seems to imply she had a role in the murder? i have it on the backburner so havent seen it yet but i parused the comments and they all seem convinced she's complicit in what chris did. it's pretty wild, i didnt think there was too much known about her
No.
Shanaananan got pregnant again and when Chris killed her she shit her pants so much she gave birth and the bloody foetus was dangling out of her pussy as Chris dragged her downstairs. The kid saw this happening, so she had to be killed too
Let's say they divorce. Here's what Chris would have been in for.
1. Chris makes $5k a month.
2. With three kids, that's $1.1k in child support.
3. In alimony, he's likely be paying another $1k. So now we're at $2.1k.
4. As for their house, they owed $3k a month in mortgage. In all likelihood, the house would have been awarded to Shannan and the kids but remain in both Chris and Shannan's name (and before you think "ah well Chris could sell" the courts would issue an order not allowing him to do so for 18 years, until his unborn daughter was of legal age). The mortgage would be split, so Chris would be paying $1.5k on it a month. So we're looking at $3.6k now. Sidenote: they were behind on payments and Shannan took out a loan against Chris's 401k to pay them which sucks for Chris.
5. They racked up $450k in debt which declaring bankruptcy reduced to $70k. Minimum payments on that would be $1750, and that split in half is $875. So now we're looking at $4.5k a month for Chris.
6. They had zero savings.
7. Chris makes $5k but now owes an estimated $4.5k, leaving him $500 a month for himself to live off of which is insane but this is a common situation for men.
8. In all likelihood he'd be constantly behind on payments just to live with people calling him a "deadbeat dad." Again, sad but common.
9. The best case scenario is he moves in with Nichol Kessinger. Would she have stayed by his side? I'm not so sure. She did cut off ties with him after the murder of his wife and kids, but that's murder. Still, I'm not so sure she'd continue to put up with him.
10. He could move back in with his parents but that would mean giving up his job as they lived nowhere near him. Also the intense shame of moving back in with your parents and them shitting on you for not taking care of your wife and kids.
11. There's a very likely chance Chris would have been living out of his car struggling to make it work and eventually this would break him.
SUMMARY: Chris was fricked.
Something people dont consider with a stay at home mom in a divorce situation is that the court will award her half of what you made based on the idea that she helped and "earned" that half by taking care of the home while you worked. This happens basically no matter what, even in cases where they still payed for a daycare because the mother was too lazy to take care of her own children, or if they hired a maid to clean the home ect.
Ah yes, moving back in with mom and pop and having to hear them gripe at you some is basically just as bad as quadruple homicide. Yes, he really had no choices here.
Ironically his mom hated Shannan since day 1. If he'd moved back home and left her, his mom would have had him stay as long as he liked and fully funded his divorce no question. Chris made the wrong step at every turn, it's wild.
>Chris was fricked.
Nah, just do what black people do and not pay, not give a shit. Live on cash alone.
>just become a Black person
A fate worse than death.
More meaningful existence than a smelly incel /misc/chud
>Black person
>meaningful existence
Holy hell. Do you people actually exist on this board?
Even the worst /misc/gay is better than any Black person.
He'd be getting that cash from a job where they're garnish his wages if he failed to pay. Otherwise he's forced to turn to illegal methods of getting money such as selling drugs which will just lead to prison time anyway. Or you're asking him to become homeless and beg for a living which means he gets raped and killed on the streets by another crazy hobo. Maybe not even in that order.
I don't know, a peaceful life in a prison cell alone reading the Bible and finding God sounds much better than the alternatives.
Then seize your assets. Blacks only do that because they have nothing to begin with.
LOL. I knew them in moor county, before they moved. total junkie pillheads. she was all hugged up on Black folk and the methadone clinic morons.
he was bisexual, and had sucked Black folk from gaines street off for pills.
Is the documentary good?
It's obvious now but he should have just stayed married and raised his son. Could have told his wife he was cheating. She'd be mad but eventually accept it
Shannann constantly went on "work trips" for Thrive and was probably catching plenty of strange herself.
She and the children would still be alive if divorce laws and child custody laws were fair.
just have seperate accounts but split most things. I don't see how this isn't obvious. I pay half the rent, every other grocery shop, half the utility bills etc. It comes out of my account or hers, and then we give each other cash or transfer money.
I don't get why everyone doesnt' do this.
It's fricking moronic to share a bank account with another human being
do you think chris is versatile
>murder your wife and children
>become a gay in prison
Guy is literally possessed by a demon
People get married because the other person is just there once they reach their late 20s/early 30s. That’s it, that’s why shit like this happens. I think marriage has always been like this to some degree, but people used to do it knowing that that’s what it was, and it was a contractual/utilitarian way of a man and woman relying on each other. Now people think it’s only about “love” when they don’t even have that and some of these couples genuinely don’t even like each other.
I could see it as a contract for raising kids, but once they're grown that shit is over
Marriage in non western cultures was typically the result of a power dynamic where the man had complete authority over the family, life and death kind of stuff. This was an incredible deal for the man, you take all the responsibility/consequences for the actions of your family/families and you have the ability to rein them in. Honor killing wasnt really common in the west and multi generational dwellings were necessary so there would be less power dynamics at play. Think about it this way, you are still living with your parents and brothers maybe cousins too and you have to bring a new family into your settlement/urban dwelling so you wouldnt have the total authority that a non western man would since its a shared property. This also means that you cant just marry someone your whole family hates because you are adding them to the larger family structure. America is an anomaly of men having very little authority, families not living together, and marriage being an individual decision rather than a collective decision. Individuals make short sighted choices and theres very little either partner can do to change the marriage outside of divorce because they lack authority.
Tldr: bring back honor killings and arranged marriages and chris watts never would have happened
Absolute power corrupts. In theory men in control need to own their mistakes. They don't if they can help it. Which is how the cycles of abuse led to feminism. Action begets reaction.
Secular marriage only exists these days to make women and gay people feel special
If you don't plan on having kids I say don't even bother getting married, and even if you do have kids it is essentially the same thing legally even with a prenup.
I don't understand why these guys don't plan out the murder better, they always cut their wife into pieces or strangle them and drag their corpse out of the house.
Literally go to a drug dealer and get some painkillers, crush a small amount into her food and drinks for a month, once it's rooted in her system put a shitload and make her overdose.
Wait till she's in the bathtub, wear a thick jacket so she can't claw at your arms and then just hold her underwater and say she drowned.
this, killing Shanaan was the correct decision. Strangling her with your bare hands until she shits out her unborn kid and then driving her to your workplace with the GPS on while your neighbour films you... not so smart
That's what happened though, then she killed the kids
true
She didn't want a divorce
While we're on the topic of husbands who killed their wives, I recently looked into the Scott Peterson case.
Did you guys know that there was absolutely no physical evidence tying him to his wife's death and he never admitted guilt, he was basically convicted because he was having an affair and the jury figured if he's having an affair he's a bad man.
When I was a kid and that case was going on the media painted him as this evil frick who definitely did it, it's total bullshit.
He was FISHING. There's no justice in this country, I tell ya!
He should have just sold the house on the downlow and then disappeared to Mexico or some shit.
I had an uncle who was on death row, he didn't seem to mind it (although he was like 250lbs of muscle so he didn't have to worry about rape) he would always call us and sound so excited about trivial things like how they had his favorite flavor of ice cream in the commissary one time.
I love that any thread about this stays for hours but actual threads about movies and tv gets you banned
I wonder how many Watts threads have been created on this board since the crime occurred. Surely it's in the thousands at this point
One of you homosexuals should just penpal him and ask him all the questions you ask ad nauseum on these types of threads
Frick up homosexual they’re funny
Breaking up is hard, i've been stuck in a relationship i want out of for almost 6 months now because chains of moments when "it'd be fricked up to break up during" keep popping up, from birthdays to weddings to family members of her dying.
Being married is gotta be even harder, i'm started to understand why going full Benoit can start to seem tempting as an out tbh.
I've been there where you're like stuck in a dead relationship but also it's hard to properly break up, but ultimately it was for the best that we did.
In Chris's case however, he would have been better off staying with Shannan if he had that option. Even just financially, despite the fact that she's why they're in debt, divorcing a woman with three kids is a worse option. Thing is I don't know who initiated the divorce talks. I'd assume Shannan did because it's usually the woman who does, and she may have even known about the cheating. But I also think he initiated it because he thought he could move forward with his affair. And if that's the case he was just dumb because she would have taken him to the cleaners in court and he'd be in an even worse financial and living situation.
I know people love to villainize Shannan but reality is he was better off just staying with her.
>you can't brutally murder your wife and children because
>because you just can't ok?
As the man of the house, he had the power of life and death over them. That's the social contract of marriage and fatherhood. If they didn't want to get stuffed in a barrel then they should have picked a better man or made him happy.
Previous generations understood this.
"Shannon, get a fricking job - working at McDonalds is a brighter future than blowing my money on bullshit no one wants to buy on facebook from you when if it was a product people actually purchased, it would be sold on amazon or their own website you fricking moron. also police those chicken nugget throwing fricktard children'
how hard was that?
He couldn't just simply divorce her because she doesn't have a job and hasn't had one and they would give her custody and half his paycheck or more for the rest of his life
Them kids drew first blood
This, chicken nuggies are no joke, if he had a good lawyer they could have successfully argued self defense.
she has that psychotic mcmansion dwelling suburban cumskin glare down to a t
He should have plead not guilty due to insanity. Seriously, what were his lawyers doing? He had multiple concussions and measurable cranial bleeding as a result of chicken nuggets getting hurled at his head every day. He developed memory loss and early onset dementia. Give him a break.
Being institutionalized is worse than prison but it was very clearly premeditated murder so it's a moot point.
While many don't know this, many institutions have a separate wing allocated to mental disorders caused by food fight related injuries. There is precedent for them being released early once they are around people who decide to put food in their mouth instead of lobbing it at others. It's very effective treatment. He would have been out in a few years and could get on with his life.
Is it possible to start a correspondence with him? Show him all the memes and such..
What if they just had a very smart dog who could also drive? Why didn't the police investigate if the dog did it? The dog was clearly the most suspicious.
In massive financial debt and would have had his life destroyed by child support payments anyways.
Honestly he may have had the support of a jury for what she did to the family if he only dealt with her and not the kids. That's where he fricked up. It's also kind of hard to understand why he did that.
Is it possible theory that SW killed her own kids like CW told LE?
that fake smile baring of fangs and psychotic eyes. when you see that look in a person, run.
God Chris is such a fricking prick. I (and likely many other anons on this board) would kill to have a woman be that in love with you
If you knew anything about Shanann, no you wouldn't.
>Shanananananan hadn't posted some inane shit on social media for a couple of hours
>This was enough for her friend to know that something was wrong
Wasn't it that she didn't call or something despite having an appointment? But I believe it.
The lesson here is never marry an extrovert. Marry that introvert girl whom no one will notice that she's missing until months later.
Yeah, but people miss those all the time. Shannan told her friend about the appointment and that friend called the office to see if she'd arrived before she called the police. They were also selling the house, and the realtor noted Shannan not answering messages too.
I bet those lips gave insane head in college