>high school level
Have you seen high school drawing and paintings ?! Some wankers use heated nail polish get the even spread and solidity, that's how dedicated they are. Pam's work look at most middle school.
women think their existence is a reason to be praised in of itself
this behavior gets reinforced from puberty until they hit the wall, after which they experience cognitive dissonance
it’s part of the reason they seethe at muh representation while believing they don’t need to put any effort in representing themselves. Society is always at fault, men are always at fault, but not me. To be at fault you have to actually do something substantial first. Women are devoid of substance, they’re pure appearance in a metaphysical sense.
He isn't entirely wrong. Even if we're to ignore an appeal to nature argument, nurture is obvious enough. From birth we teach girls that merely doing things "while being a girl" is cause for celebration. First girl to do this or that etc. That it's somehow momentuous that they're doing well in school or getting a job or really anything because "being a girl is hard." It's really not, the entire system is feminized and designed to support them, the end result being that boys are more challenged and end up well rounded and humble while women are prideful and entitled.
You won't see this behavior from women in harsher places like India. They're more like men, humble and accountable.
yet normies, especially women still believe you are given the keys to the world when the doctor sees you have a penis. They are blind to the droves of men dying, committing suicide or just living in quiet desperation. They think every guy is a CEO.
>yet normies, especially women still believe you are given the keys to the world when the doctor sees you have a penis
When I tried to kill myself during a psychotic breakdown after my twin sister died, my doctors and coworkers told me the best solution was for me to work more and go on dates
"WORK FOR THE GOY AND GIVE WOMAN ALL YOUR MONEY NO MATTER WHAT"
You're talking about India before 2014. >53.2 per cent rape cases filed between April 2013-July 2014 false, says DCW
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/north/story/false-rape-cases-in-delhi-delhi-commission-of-women-233222-2014-12-29
Sometimes you read a post and you think it's total bullshit, but you read through it and you think to yourself: jesus he is right. That's called the red pill my friend, and you just took your first step in it.
Female attention is effortless, they don't need to entertain, they are the ones being entertained to.
When a guy wants attention it means we need to entertain and make an effort.
The post wall Stacy losing her only asset and realizing she was never interesting is what makes a Karen. Classic tale as old as time. It's why they're so upset that nobody worships the ground they walk on, to them, being spoken to like a normal person is insulting and they lash out in anger in what they feel is an indignity.
Because the greatest way for a woman's life to progress is by getting social attention. We've all heard stories of woman getting plane tickets, help with rent, basically free food for a month, easier placement into jobs, or otherwise savior from debt simply because a men finds them sexually attractive. Should a woman work 200hrs+ to afford her 3rd out of country vacation that year or shake her ass in the direct of a 6'2 engineer?
Women do moronic art courses and other degrees with low earning potential because at the end of the day they know they’ll be bailed out. Either by some poor beta schmuck or their family. My greatest fear is some parasitic arthoe attaching itself to me.
But she decided she didn't want it anymore, and quit the art school. Then she tried to be a salesman, failed miserably, and scammed her way into being an "office administrator". She failed it too, and only Dwight taking pity on her allowed her to keep this position.
this. Pam wasn't only a loser with no ambition who couldn't complete anything, but she was such a c**t that she didn't want Jim to improve as well.
Imagine dropping out of art school.LMAO
This. Seemed really strange, since if I recall he was living alone anyway. Never had a woman try to get between me and what I do with my money in a past relationships. Even in marriage, where it would be somewhat more acceptable for a woman to give her opinion.
My favorite part is where she has him quit as partner in his successful highly lucrative new company he founded just because she wanted to stay working in an office with him her whole life, then when she felt guilty she went behind his back and secretly negotiated with his friends and business peers to be made partner again. Forcing him to quit was his awful enough but to infantilize him by going to his friends and making the career he actually earned ‘her little gift to him’ has got to be the most narcissistic thing of all time. And now instead of just being a badass who founded a company and won because he deserved it, his entire job is now a ‘special surprise’ his wife made herself in charge of getting him, fricking destroying and rebuilding his life behind his back, and subordinating Jim to his friends and business partners because now his career is something they and his fricking wife ‘let him have’, as a sweet kind thing to do. Frick this
7 months ago
Anonymous
This is why I don't understand how anyone can buy sympathetic towards Pam, she's genuinely the worst person in the show.
She cheated on her partner and acted like a domestic abuse victim when he got upset at her.
>DUMB ASS FRICKING LIBERAL WANTING PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT.
But seriously if you're born middle class or lower you only a few serious options any more.
You realize you can't do this, get a real job, stick to a schedule, and practice, practice, practice unless you're in the 99th percentile of talent in your hobby or have a vegana
When I was in college that's what I noticed. Women usually major in memes studies and have plans after college to life the van life or whatever. Men major in practical things and we know we'll have to get a real job after we finish school. I have my sisters have quit their jobs once they got a BF so they can travel and little and then they usually take a stress free low paying job.
This is why there are fewer conservative artists as well. It that sort of "protestant work ethic" thing. It's not like conservatives lack the capacity for creativity, they're just busy being a plumber or welder or getting an MBA because their f150 driving football loving father would give them shit for "wasting time" with art.
I'm willing to accept this is any and all computed generated art is also dismissed including CGI, non hand-drawn animation, and any other homosexual shit you nerds do.
Once you get a complex prompt full of shit only you know about you can monitor every AI thread on 4chin for 3 days and see nothing getting close to "your style".
See
I don't know about the artistic ability about the guy who did this OC but he is undoubtedly top tier at trolling.
I've seen it in a few threads and it presses all the right buttons every single times kek.
>he is undoubtedly top tier at trolling.
It's literally the worst attempt at baiting I've ever seen. You must be a seething art gay, you can't be serious.
AI art can certainly look very pleasent of the person knows how to manipulate the program. I certainly couldn't create an image like this; it's more than trial and error. But obviously act pen and paper artists are many times over superior skill. I don't know why this basic statement causes so much controversy.
is a photographer lesser than a painter because he "just presses a button"? do you think you have what it takes to take beautiful photographs? Do oyu have the tech knowledge to operate a camera to its full potential and the eye see what's worth capturing?
YOu can't be against AI art and think that film, photography or even producing music are valid
He was a decent artist and he was right to be butthurt about not being a "current thing" artist. Even though I like German Expressionism he got shit on because his love of german culture and architecture wasn't cutting edge enough in the eyes of the school. If he drew people in a grotesque fashion they would have let him in.
you submitted a solid portfolio, went to school, and then started drawing degenerate crap. Even perverts like Egon Schiele had better fundamentals than Hitler, if you looked at what they were painting as teenagers
>imagine how much time and money I can save by not even having to teach this student... rubs hands
it's not even always tribalism, the chutzpah goes even deeper.
The failed artist cope is such a weird argument. Sure, the guy didn't get to art school, but he did manage to make himself a dictator of his own country.
he didnt meet requirements. not enough portraits. he was exceptional architectural art and could draw/paint from memory without reference. he was recommended to go into architect school instead, but couldnt attend or afford it or some such. but he was never bad or considered some failed artist for it.
Its not bad, but it looks more like practice than completed pieces. Her still lifes are boring and dull and her buildings look like they came from an architectural survey. The cup is the only one that seems like she attempted something, and the use of color is somewhat interesting. This is supposed to be an exhibit where you display your best works and hopefully sell one, and she shows up with crinkly pieces of printer paper. Michael Scott bought the building for a couple hundred. Which one would you buy and for how much?
>>Its not bad, but it looks more like practice than completed pieces.
Why? Are you sure you aren't confusing the medium of watercolor for "amateurish" because you grew up on moronic conceptart.org digital "oil" paint style?
No it's because she's water painting on PRINTER PAPER which is soaking up the liquid and wrinkling as a result.
It's part of the joke that she's using paper from work. But if she did even just 5 minutes of research she would have found out you need a specially treated canvass that can soak up the paint.
So it's blatantly amateur practice.
>But if she did even just 5 minutes of research she would have found out you need a specially treated canvass that can soak up the paint.
Why? Let me guess, your favorite "artist" Youtuber told you that and even left a link to it in the description?
You require a youtuber to explain common sense to you?? What a fricking broccoli head.
What's next a youtube video to tell you how to use a fork? Lmaaaooooo
>amateur doesn't buy specialized supplies >this means it is invalid
You're like a director saying cheap widely available cameras are bad because they mean anyone can make a movie
Using proper paper for wet media is actually very important. Not using the right paper would be like driving around town with 4 spare tires on your car.
This has to be bait but I'll bite
You can literally buy all your water color supplies for less than $10 and a canvas for $5 and they're at EVERY craft store in any Podunk town. This is specialty supplies this is basic supplies.
You wouldn't start building a bird house out of paper mache and gum and complain that you didn't have access to specialty tools when it falls apart in the rain would you?
When you're a beginner you use the right tools for the job and only when you're confident with the basics do you "experiment" with alternative supplies and methods. Pam wasn't too poor to afford a canvas she just didn't understand.
7 months ago
Anonymous
It's probably a manga style wannabe artist that copies shit from deviantart on printer paper and was brushed off from a local community gallery so they have a beef with Fine Art.
I think she was going for a medium thing. The subjects of the paintings are objects from her printer paper selling life, so they are painted on printer paper. It's still shit though. If she was a real artist she wouldve just printed stock photos on printer paper. Better yet, bring the printer along and encourage people to take copies as an interactive piece of art.
it looks like art made by a person learning how to use the tools.
it's passionless and souless. I see a stapler there. what of it? bland background, bland framing. really does look like a drawing made by somebody learning perspective.
would you pay 2 dollars for it? I wouldn't pay anything for it
wtf no
what the hell. where did scat fettish twitter trannies came from? >why does this matter
because she's selling it. I'm asking you a question would you buy? clearely no.
Lmao. What a leap in logic! The drawings look amateurish and with minimal effort put in (as the other anon said regarding the paper used) yet this b***h believed the office staff should've praised her for this mediocre trash? Gimme a break.
What's the problem exactly? Ask ChatGPT to write your argument maybe?
>>Its not bad, but it looks more like practice than completed pieces.
Why? Are you sure you aren't confusing the medium of watercolor for "amateurish" because you grew up on moronic conceptart.org digital "oil" paint style?
>But if she did even just 5 minutes of research she would have found out you need a specially treated canvass that can soak up the paint.
Why? Let me guess, your favorite "artist" Youtuber told you that and even left a link to it in the description?
What would you pay for and why does this matter? So only art is the scat fetish shit you pay for to Twitter trannies?
Pam will NEVER frick you!!!
SHE WILL NEVER TOUCH YOU
SHES NOT WATCHING YOU BRO
SHES NOT IMPRESSED
WHAT ARE YOU DOING??
They're actually decent attempts at model paintings for a beginner but the issue is Pam did a thing once and believed herself deserving of immense attention because of it, which is exceptionally common among woman. They're so used to excessive praise just for existing that woman lack the self-awareness to actually accomplish something.
That was his specialty. It's weird how no one knows this. He didn't regularly draw pretty flowers or vistas or whatever the frick. He was interested in architecture. Also he didn't have brown eyes. They were green.
This plotline was pretty good, actually. Provided Michael a good character moment when he buys her art, but was also a realistic depiction of someone who has dreams but not the talent to realize it. Pam gave up on this and embraced being a corporate cog, moving from reception to salesperson. Other more modern shows would be like “Pam is a genius artist” and there’d be some bizarre one-off rich character who would spend millions on it
You're spot on, I also think it's a jab at delusional people who dream about fame before they put in the work.
Pam wants to do "art", she wants to take an art course, and does this grand gesture of having an entire gallery up of all her work and all it shows is that she hasn't put in enough time.
But she's incapable of self reflection, to realize she's not putting in enough practice time, yet she still rented out a gallery to sell her paintings.
It reeks of someone who wants fame, but doesn't understand the commitment it takes to stand out. Her interest in water color art is passing at best.
And in this moment she doesn't think her art is worth selling to even Michael because she realizes she didn't take her art seriously enough to be worth selling to anyone. That's why she gives it up.
Pam is just like any other millenial who see creative hobbies as methods to fame and riches. Instead of using them for self actualization - creative expression, she's just using it for her ego and for money.
>and does this grand gesture of having an entire gallery up of all her work and all it shows is that she hasn't put in enough time.
it was a show put on as part of the art class she was taking, presumably all of the students were showing their progress and it was an event for family and friends.
pay attention next time and maybe you wont embarrass yourself
My mistake but I've witnessed these student art galleries in person at college. And you can really see the disparity between someone who only doodled in class and reached the level of a beginner gamer webcomic telling relatable jokes.
Vs seeing awesome concept art that will go on to be used in Hollywood and video games.
>practice time
lol
the talentless genuinely believe that more time will make them less talentless
Talent is just having an eye for detail, an inherent knowledge of what works and what doesn't. But even then they still need to practice. Pam doesn't have talent nor did she practice. She's not actually serious about her art hence why she's never gotten past this amateur level.
The joke was that her work was below average. It wouldn't have made sense she was a world renowed artist. But her being a comically bad artist would have been to predictable and fallen flat.
The joke works because her art is nothing special.
Why did Michael Scott only buy her unframed A4 printer paper painting of the Dunder-Mifflin building and not her completely off-perspective paintings of a stapler and a mug?
>actually getting offended and enraged at someone else's sincere effort >Someone fictional no less
Why are you all so full of resentment and rage? It's disturbing
People have been discussing office characters for a decade because they're well written people with lots of depth. But they're all with issues and we can see an actual person inside.
Pam is a reflection of a person everyone knows, or understands.
A bit of Pam's personality is in all of us.
She hates where she is in life but can't see an exit strategy so she wants something that will help her escape
She takes on a creative outlet, which is great because many people need one. But she does what every person understandably does, which is let a fantasy take over.
"Imagine I get so good at art i can quit my job and live off my art!! Then I'll be rich and interesting!"
Everyone has this idea. It's not bad but it's self indulgent. Most people realize it's unrealistic to quit their job and take an expensive college course. It's not like college courses actually teach real art, it's the worst scam next to gender studies.
Pam's art is understandable, we've all been there. In this criticism I'm not saying she's dumb, I'm not saying I'm better. I'm saying I get it. it tells an important message about how people view art, not as a method of expressing feelings or some other gay shit, it's that millenials view art as a means to an end, to escape working and to become an interesting person.
At least millennials have a fricking dream. Boomers literally just watch TV while their house goes up in value and zoomers are too soulless to feel anything from looking at or making art.
I would like to dig out your eyes with a spoon and frick start your brain, you moron. 100iq average thinkers like you are the problem with humanity. Fricking woman.
Most people in the thread just want to dunk on artgays. I don't even think the premise was "a joke." It was played for character development and to have a sweet moment between her and Michael. Her art isn't terrible, it's just obvious she is new. This is also a pivotal time where you have to accept that you suck and push through to get better. If anything it shows that her instructors are pieces of shit for not telling her to matte and frame her artwork and telling her to ditch the stapler and coffee mug and just stick with the other 4. If her school was worth a shit they would have had a student show where everyone is basically at a similar level and the expectation of the show is that it's for the class and they are new artists. The sad part is that she gives up after barely trying.
>Most people in the thread just want to dunk on artgays.
I dont know when and why this became a thing here. It's so weird.
Is this the new "owning the liberals epic style"? Looks the same to me.
It's just humans being shit as always. It's the same thing when you're walking with someone and they start attacking the style of some car driving down the street, or some stranger's outfit. Offloading petty cruelty in a quick burst.
Artgays started.
Every time we started posting or talking about AI art, artgays would seethe infinitely and demand the thread to be deleted and everyone involved to be banned. that's it.
now I'm happy when artgays lose their jobs
Cinemaphileners hate people, more news at 11. But nah, I don’t think it’s dunking on artgays, it’s dunking on insincere positivity which seems to predominate the art world. Criticism can be useful, and if you push past your ego being temporarily bruised and continue working despite the a real critical reception, that’s often the best way to improve. It’s the first trial by fire that people face when pursuing their passions and developing them into strengths, and in order to seem more compassionate (emphasis on SEEM rather than be) we’ve collectively tried to eliminate trials by fire. But trials by fire are usually the best way to burn away mere hobbyists and bring out real artists.
>Most people in the thread just want to dunk on artgays.
I dont know when and why this became a thing here. It's so weird.
Is this the new "owning the liberals epic style"? Looks the same to me.
Artgays are as useless as homeless people but with more pretension
I was hanging out with a prominent retired heart surgeon who is a ceramic artist just yesterday afternoon when I was at the studio. You get distracted by all the post modern hipsters with doodle tattoos. Artists come in all types and flavors. Most of those liberal artgays dont' actually make art after their overprices artschool.
Because you are born talented or you don't. You can't work your way to become a visionary person, and without that you arent really a artist, just a guy that can make decent drawings or whatever.
It's that attitude why people hate artists. ANYONE can be visionary and creative unless they have some serious disability, and that doesn't even stop everyone.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Not true. You are probably creative, that's why it seems like it's natural. Most of people have no creativity at all in their body.
I don't want some homosexual visionary painting post modern abstract depictions of his buttplug collection. Give me a nice painting of the Battle of Fort McHenry, or of a Saturn V rocket on that launch pad, or the Wright brothers flying. I can even tolerate impressionism.
I've always wondering how much a commission for a large oil on canvass would be.
there!
that is the reason why people hate artist.
this is some maximum copium ovgerdrive to belive you're so special nobody could do what you do. you're the chosen one!
it is a skill! like writing or throwing a rock, that definetly can be mastered and improved. some people can pick it up quicker or have a unique approach but it's just a skill, it isn't god given
it takes 2 seconds to google famous artista who started late in life
she's like 30
she really felt confident enough to post that shit when she's clearely just a student?
these characters aren't real, I don't want to go in a stupid in depth analisys because the writers didn't waste their times coming up with every single Pam's brain cells synapses
Pam isn't doing art because she enjoys art. Shes using it as a vehicle to escape wageslaving as a secretary.
She's not skilled enough to make it through art school because she sees her effort compared to people who are serious and genuinely interested in pursuing art no matter what.
And the reason she quit doing art is because she never cared about it to begin with, it was always a means to an end.
Just like so many people want to be actors because it comes with fame and riches. But directors aren't picking out any random guy off the street. They're looking at people who work in theatre on stage who enjoy the process even if there's little to no money involved. That's where art stems from, a genuine enjoyment of the process and creativity.
Well, I'll reword it. She's not going to make it after 1 year of effort. But as
She gives up before she ever really started. It's actually incredibly common. I had a life drawing class and there was this girl there who was struggling and being self deprecating like it was a reflection of her character. You're taking ONE class and you expect for everything to just click in a couple of months? People give up from fear rather than a lack of talent. Every few art classes are like that. People beat themselves up and just give up entirely because they think you have to be a natural.
Says it takes time. Pam just gives up because she wanted an easy escape. She "could" theoretically keep doing art and make money but she'll be old by then.
Why can't she just keep doing art without the prospect of being paid? If she truly enjoyed art she'd be doing it regardless if it made her any money. But we know that's not Pam's intention.
>Pam isn't doing art because she enjoys art. Shes using it as a vehicle to escape wageslaving as a secretary.
These are both true and stated explicitly multiple times in the show. The point being that she wants a job she enjoys and is passionate about, rather than being a secretary which has no meaning.
I find it really psychologically interesting that you're claiming otherwise. I mean you had to ignore large chunks of the show to write this deranged rant. Seems like you have some issues you need to work out.
First off, you didn't need to write "psychology" before saying my statement was interesting.
And your first statement contradicts your second. You're saying I'm right and that my point is stated multiple times throughout the show, but now you're saying I'm staying otherwise?
I think you just lack reading comprehension... and generally any English comprehension. My impression is that you're must young.
>he "could" theoretically keep doing art and make money but she'll be old by then. >Why can't she just keep doing art without the prospect of being paid?
What do you imagine the correlation between "doing art" and "being paid" is lmfao?
Because she quit her fricking job moron. She banked her future on being able to live off her art. She really thought she'd go to art school and immediately start making cash when she graduated.
People with brain cancer have better media literacy than you.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Incel screed didn't read, now answer my actual question.
7 months ago
Anonymous
If my answer wasn't sufficient can you rephrase your question for me
7 months ago
Anonymous
What is the function between making art and getting paid, draw a graph of the correlation that you're imagining between those two actions/properties in your head.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Your question just moronic, same with your moronic life. What a pointless time waster you are.
7 months ago
Anonymous
She didn't quit her fricking job, "moron". It's becoming more and more obvious that you've never seen the show with every post
7 months ago
Anonymous
What do you call someone who leaves a job, is replaced.
>Pam isn't doing art because she enjoys art. Shes using it as a vehicle to escape wageslaving as a secretary.
These are both true and stated explicitly multiple times in the show. The point being that she wants a job she enjoys and is passionate about, rather than being a secretary which has no meaning.
I find it really psychologically interesting that you're claiming otherwise. I mean you had to ignore large chunks of the show to write this deranged rant. Seems like you have some issues you need to work out.
She gives up before she ever really started. It's actually incredibly common. I had a life drawing class and there was this girl there who was struggling and being self deprecating like it was a reflection of her character. You're taking ONE class and you expect for everything to just click in a couple of months? People give up from fear rather than a lack of talent. Every few art classes are like that. People beat themselves up and just give up entirely because they think you have to be a natural.
This. People project a lot into art, which is ironically the point lol.
At least millennials have a fricking dream. Boomers literally just watch TV while their house goes up in value and zoomers are too soulless to feel anything from looking at or making art.
That's some military grade seething. Projecting onto boomers when nobody mentioned them? Your post is basically off topic.
And millenials are far worse than boomers when it comes to art. It's just a medium for income to the . I think most millenials were more struck with delusions of fame than any previous generation before them.
I went to the school she supposedly goes to. Its so weird because the only talented and later prominent artist I met there dropped out (Anna Park)
>the only talented and later prominent artist I met there dropped out (Anna Park)
It's a delusional fantasy to think art school will make you an artist. It's a scam. Like straight up, joining a club or watching Bob Ross wil provide more fundamental knowledge than some grifters asking for thousands of dollars hand over fist to show you YouTube tutorials.
It all comes down to the quality of the professors. Some professors are really cool and there is value in having someone there to share experience just like anything else. The price of the school though isn't a guarantee. A painting teacher at a community college might have a lot more wisdom and be a better mentor than some dipshit at a prestigious university. Art education is just really fricked up in general but it's not totally useless or invalid.
Did Jenna Fischer do all of it herself? That would make more sense for why they wouldn't get a professional to shit out some watercolors in an hour or two.
i know you're speaking about the painting in OP, but the building itself and the interior sets are so damn comfy. comfiest before Jim goes to Stanford, but still comfy after the merger. when Jim get his own office it gets way less cozy
troony psyops won't work. The chud power couple has been depicted, billions will be inspired. The white race will be preserved, the west will be saved.
Yes, this is a common occurrence among artists, especially since it's a difficult industry to get in hence why her work is good, but nothing special and she realizes this over several seasons. Did you even watch the show or do you have the IQ of a kindergartner and missed the point?
i see why he was rejected from art school. look at the perspective on the woman on the bottom right. move her 10 feet closer to the building and her head would be reaching the 2nd floor window
Him being rejected doesn't so much had to do with the quality of the work on his postcards, everyone understood that he was a young man on the grind. The issue is that that's all he had going for him. Oh here's a picture of a castle in Bavaria, here's a street in Vienna, the berlin reichtag, etc. Meanwhile other artists are doing genuinely crazy shit like pic related and actually exploring what art even was on a fundemental level. Hitler got so assblasted by this fact that he seethed about it for the rest of his life.
No. Its something you learn about at like age 10. You don't need to go to some fancy vienna school to learn about perspective. Its literally just drawing lines to one or more vanishing points and that helps you line things up windows properly and making sure the size of people make sense. While Hitler was sitting around struggling to even do that shit Dali, at age 6, was painting stuff like pic related.
This is garbage though why would you post this as though it's some 6 year old stunting on people. It rightfully looks like it was painted by a child lmao
okay dwight
>watercolors on printer paper so the paper gets all fricked up and crinkled
Why is she so dumb
you FOOL!! she uses stock from WORK!!!
>i did something and therefore need to be rewarded
Quintessential women and post-millenial mindset. Why did we end up in this fricking timeline.
you guys are rude to her, i don't understand why you guys would treat me like that 🙁
YWNBP
>why did no one want to look at my highschool level shit that took 15 minutes each max
stupid c**t
>high school level
Have you seen high school drawing and paintings ?! Some wankers use heated nail polish get the even spread and solidity, that's how dedicated they are. Pam's work look at most middle school.
women think their existence is a reason to be praised in of itself
this behavior gets reinforced from puberty until they hit the wall, after which they experience cognitive dissonance
it’s part of the reason they seethe at muh representation while believing they don’t need to put any effort in representing themselves. Society is always at fault, men are always at fault, but not me. To be at fault you have to actually do something substantial first. Women are devoid of substance, they’re pure appearance in a metaphysical sense.
jesus dude
i didn't read what he said but i know he's right
He isn't entirely wrong. Even if we're to ignore an appeal to nature argument, nurture is obvious enough. From birth we teach girls that merely doing things "while being a girl" is cause for celebration. First girl to do this or that etc. That it's somehow momentuous that they're doing well in school or getting a job or really anything because "being a girl is hard." It's really not, the entire system is feminized and designed to support them, the end result being that boys are more challenged and end up well rounded and humble while women are prideful and entitled.
You won't see this behavior from women in harsher places like India. They're more like men, humble and accountable.
yet normies, especially women still believe you are given the keys to the world when the doctor sees you have a penis. They are blind to the droves of men dying, committing suicide or just living in quiet desperation. They think every guy is a CEO.
>yet normies, especially women still believe you are given the keys to the world when the doctor sees you have a penis
When I tried to kill myself during a psychotic breakdown after my twin sister died, my doctors and coworkers told me the best solution was for me to work more and go on dates
"WORK FOR THE GOY AND GIVE WOMAN ALL YOUR MONEY NO MATTER WHAT"
You're talking about India before 2014.
>53.2 per cent rape cases filed between April 2013-July 2014 false, says DCW
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/north/story/false-rape-cases-in-delhi-delhi-commission-of-women-233222-2014-12-29
jesus dude
is he wrong?
we all have roles in this world
men take action
women are acted upon
both carry many burdens
he's entirely correct
Sometimes you read a post and you think it's total bullshit, but you read through it and you think to yourself: jesus he is right. That's called the red pill my friend, and you just took your first step in it.
What about fat or ugly women?
Also, at what point in your life did you realize women didn't care for you?
A fat woman lives a way better life socially than the average man. I've certain the 200lbs slag has gotten laid 3x more than me.
This isn't entirely woman's fault. Men need to stop giving massive rewards to useless women.
>has gotten laid 3x more than me
incel revealed himself
kek your world view is entirely based on you not getting any kek
I know this is pasta but some women write pretty solid stories, like Hiromu Arakawa or Robin Hobb.
unironically, why would women even want attention? shits annoying
Female attention is effortless, they don't need to entertain, they are the ones being entertained to.
When a guy wants attention it means we need to entertain and make an effort.
The post wall Stacy losing her only asset and realizing she was never interesting is what makes a Karen. Classic tale as old as time. It's why they're so upset that nobody worships the ground they walk on, to them, being spoken to like a normal person is insulting and they lash out in anger in what they feel is an indignity.
Because the greatest way for a woman's life to progress is by getting social attention. We've all heard stories of woman getting plane tickets, help with rent, basically free food for a month, easier placement into jobs, or otherwise savior from debt simply because a men finds them sexually attractive. Should a woman work 200hrs+ to afford her 3rd out of country vacation that year or shake her ass in the direct of a 6'2 engineer?
>interpreter
>not about me
Nah people just depend on you to fricking survive and communicate. What a fricking cow
read this in chuck's voice
formerly heard it in saul's handwriting
Women do moronic art courses and other degrees with low earning potential because at the end of the day they know they’ll be bailed out. Either by some poor beta schmuck or their family. My greatest fear is some parasitic arthoe attaching itself to me.
Wow imagine wanting to live your life around things you want to do instead of planning everything around muh stem or muh trade.
But she decided she didn't want it anymore, and quit the art school. Then she tried to be a salesman, failed miserably, and scammed her way into being an "office administrator". She failed it too, and only Dwight taking pity on her allowed her to keep this position.
this. Pam wasn't only a loser with no ambition who couldn't complete anything, but she was such a c**t that she didn't want Jim to improve as well.
Imagine dropping out of art school.LMAO
My favourite part was when Pam took offense to Jim's buying a house in secret from his own money.
This. Seemed really strange, since if I recall he was living alone anyway. Never had a woman try to get between me and what I do with my money in a past relationships. Even in marriage, where it would be somewhat more acceptable for a woman to give her opinion.
Did you even watch the show? She loved that.
My favorite part is where she has him quit as partner in his successful highly lucrative new company he founded just because she wanted to stay working in an office with him her whole life, then when she felt guilty she went behind his back and secretly negotiated with his friends and business peers to be made partner again. Forcing him to quit was his awful enough but to infantilize him by going to his friends and making the career he actually earned ‘her little gift to him’ has got to be the most narcissistic thing of all time. And now instead of just being a badass who founded a company and won because he deserved it, his entire job is now a ‘special surprise’ his wife made herself in charge of getting him, fricking destroying and rebuilding his life behind his back, and subordinating Jim to his friends and business partners because now his career is something they and his fricking wife ‘let him have’, as a sweet kind thing to do. Frick this
This is why I don't understand how anyone can buy sympathetic towards Pam, she's genuinely the worst person in the show.
She cheated on her partner and acted like a domestic abuse victim when he got upset at her.
Didn't she choose a weird art school where they mostly worked with digital art and she didn't know any of the software they used?
Yeah. Imagine being rational and realistic.
>DUMB ASS FRICKING LIBERAL WANTING PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT.
But seriously if you're born middle class or lower you only a few serious options any more.
Like what?
You're a grown man who lives with his mom. That isn't rational or realistic. She'll die someday and you'll be homeless.
You can't live your life around things you want to do if you have no income and the things you want to do don't bring in any income for you
You realize you can't do this, get a real job, stick to a schedule, and practice, practice, practice unless you're in the 99th percentile of talent in your hobby or have a vegana
Don't worry. I don't think that will happen to you.
When I was in college that's what I noticed. Women usually major in memes studies and have plans after college to life the van life or whatever. Men major in practical things and we know we'll have to get a real job after we finish school. I have my sisters have quit their jobs once they got a BF so they can travel and little and then they usually take a stress free low paying job.
This is why there are fewer conservative artists as well. It that sort of "protestant work ethic" thing. It's not like conservatives lack the capacity for creativity, they're just busy being a plumber or welder or getting an MBA because their f150 driving football loving father would give them shit for "wasting time" with art.
is this better or what
At least there's some emotion in the Jim paintings and not just random office shit that happens to be nearby
Bwo that's my high school portfolio
>tfw I've created over 100 images more unique and beautiful in under an hour by typing a few words
lol
You didn't create shit though
I'm willing to accept this is any and all computed generated art is also dismissed including CGI, non hand-drawn animation, and any other homosexual shit you nerds do.
seething twitter "artist" detected
It is art, you just did not create it
Once you get a complex prompt full of shit only you know about you can monitor every AI thread on 4chin for 3 days and see nothing getting close to "your style".
See
Someone made this unironically. Grim
>unironically
What makes you think that? I read it and immediately thought it was made by someone who wanted to troll inkcels.
holy shit get a grip
I don't know about the artistic ability about the guy who did this OC but he is undoubtedly top tier at trolling.
I've seen it in a few threads and it presses all the right buttons every single times kek.
>>I don't know about the artistic ability about the guy who did this OC
>37:59
Okay he's not trolling, he's actually delusional
>he is undoubtedly top tier at trolling.
It's literally the worst attempt at baiting I've ever seen. You must be a seething art gay, you can't be serious.
why put a disgusting face on her?
some teenage crush he's still simping over or something?
AI art can certainly look very pleasent of the person knows how to manipulate the program. I certainly couldn't create an image like this; it's more than trial and error. But obviously act pen and paper artists are many times over superior skill. I don't know why this basic statement causes so much controversy.
is a photographer lesser than a painter because he "just presses a button"? do you think you have what it takes to take beautiful photographs? Do oyu have the tech knowledge to operate a camera to its full potential and the eye see what's worth capturing?
YOu can't be against AI art and think that film, photography or even producing music are valid
>I've
it was the AI you fricking idiot
>it was the paintbrush you fricking idiot
lel
Doubly would
damm those are by hitler?
Yeah that was considered "bad" at the time for a 16 year old high school student.
college back in the day was the equivalent of a grad school program now
standards have fallen
>Source: Dude trust me
>The current state of Cinemaphile
(And its based)
>the israelites desperately try to claim hitler was a failed artist
>in reality he BTFO any ~~*modern artist*~~
no wonder the hated him
He was a decent artist and he was right to be butthurt about not being a "current thing" artist. Even though I like German Expressionism he got shit on because his love of german culture and architecture wasn't cutting edge enough in the eyes of the school. If he drew people in a grotesque fashion they would have let him in.
you submitted a solid portfolio, went to school, and then started drawing degenerate crap. Even perverts like Egon Schiele had better fundamentals than Hitler, if you looked at what they were painting as teenagers
>imagine how much time and money I can save by not even having to teach this student... rubs hands
it's not even always tribalism, the chutzpah goes even deeper.
hitler's application was rejected by a gentile
The failed artist cope is such a weird argument. Sure, the guy didn't get to art school, but he did manage to make himself a dictator of his own country.
>ure, the guy didn't get to art school,
he didnt meet requirements. not enough portraits. he was exceptional architectural art and could draw/paint from memory without reference. he was recommended to go into architect school instead, but couldnt attend or afford it or some such. but he was never bad or considered some failed artist for it.
qrd?
On Van Gogh's first try, he drew the hands of the peasants.
The origins of Hitler
The middle office painting actually looks like something Hitler would have painted since the perspective is so off
>the perspective is so off
How?
kitsch
The joke is that her art is all Hitlerian.
that art is the best art of all art
they really did my boy roy dirty
>i must bully this fictional character to feel accomplished
kek
>defending that trash "art"
she's not gonna sleep with you, bro
pam and jim were the worst characters in the show
Looks great to me, what's the problem?
Its motel art.
What's the problem exactly? Ask ChatGPT to write your argument maybe?
Meaning, real art takes courage, okay? And honesty. Those aren't Pam's strong points.
Sounds like israelite brainwashing.
Its not bad, but it looks more like practice than completed pieces. Her still lifes are boring and dull and her buildings look like they came from an architectural survey. The cup is the only one that seems like she attempted something, and the use of color is somewhat interesting. This is supposed to be an exhibit where you display your best works and hopefully sell one, and she shows up with crinkly pieces of printer paper. Michael Scott bought the building for a couple hundred. Which one would you buy and for how much?
>>Its not bad, but it looks more like practice than completed pieces.
Why? Are you sure you aren't confusing the medium of watercolor for "amateurish" because you grew up on moronic conceptart.org digital "oil" paint style?
No it's because she's water painting on PRINTER PAPER which is soaking up the liquid and wrinkling as a result.
It's part of the joke that she's using paper from work. But if she did even just 5 minutes of research she would have found out you need a specially treated canvass that can soak up the paint.
So it's blatantly amateur practice.
>But if she did even just 5 minutes of research she would have found out you need a specially treated canvass that can soak up the paint.
Why? Let me guess, your favorite "artist" Youtuber told you that and even left a link to it in the description?
Yes :3
You require a youtuber to explain common sense to you?? What a fricking broccoli head.
What's next a youtube video to tell you how to use a fork? Lmaaaooooo
>amateur doesn't buy specialized supplies
>this means it is invalid
You're like a director saying cheap widely available cameras are bad because they mean anyone can make a movie
Using proper paper for wet media is actually very important. Not using the right paper would be like driving around town with 4 spare tires on your car.
This has to be bait but I'll bite
You can literally buy all your water color supplies for less than $10 and a canvas for $5 and they're at EVERY craft store in any Podunk town. This is specialty supplies this is basic supplies.
You wouldn't start building a bird house out of paper mache and gum and complain that you didn't have access to specialty tools when it falls apart in the rain would you?
When you're a beginner you use the right tools for the job and only when you're confident with the basics do you "experiment" with alternative supplies and methods. Pam wasn't too poor to afford a canvas she just didn't understand.
It's probably a manga style wannabe artist that copies shit from deviantart on printer paper and was brushed off from a local community gallery so they have a beef with Fine Art.
I think she was going for a medium thing. The subjects of the paintings are objects from her printer paper selling life, so they are painted on printer paper. It's still shit though. If she was a real artist she wouldve just printed stock photos on printer paper. Better yet, bring the printer along and encourage people to take copies as an interactive piece of art.
it looks like art made by a person learning how to use the tools.
it's passionless and souless. I see a stapler there. what of it? bland background, bland framing. really does look like a drawing made by somebody learning perspective.
would you pay 2 dollars for it? I wouldn't pay anything for it
What would you pay for and why does this matter? So only art is the scat fetish shit you pay for to Twitter trannies?
wtf no
what the hell. where did scat fettish twitter trannies came from?
>why does this matter
because she's selling it. I'm asking you a question would you buy? clearely no.
Lmao. What a leap in logic! The drawings look amateurish and with minimal effort put in (as the other anon said regarding the paper used) yet this b***h believed the office staff should've praised her for this mediocre trash? Gimme a break.
Ayo! Stevie Wonder posting on Cinemaphileagain
Pam will NEVER frick you!!!
SHE WILL NEVER TOUCH YOU
SHES NOT WATCHING YOU BRO
SHES NOT IMPRESSED
WHAT ARE YOU DOING??
They're actually decent attempts at model paintings for a beginner but the issue is Pam did a thing once and believed herself deserving of immense attention because of it, which is exceptionally common among woman. They're so used to excessive praise just for existing that woman lack the self-awareness to actually accomplish something.
In the show, I don't think they're supposed to be anything but mediocre or amateurish. They're rejected or ignored by everyone except Michael Scott.
The Dunder mid building picture reminds me of hitlers early works. I feel this was intentional. As was the turtle neck
I was thinking this too.
god he was such a shit artist
Hitler was probably better suited for architecture
That was his specialty. It's weird how no one knows this. He didn't regularly draw pretty flowers or vistas or whatever the frick. He was interested in architecture. Also he didn't have brown eyes. They were green.
Why didn't he just apply for architecture school instead? Was he stupid?
Yeah
He did... The academy in vienna had an architecture program.
Thats why art school should have let him in. He needed to be taught.
>thinks they actually teach anyone in artschool
I hate the office/boss worship of the U.S Office.
This plotline was pretty good, actually. Provided Michael a good character moment when he buys her art, but was also a realistic depiction of someone who has dreams but not the talent to realize it. Pam gave up on this and embraced being a corporate cog, moving from reception to salesperson. Other more modern shows would be like “Pam is a genius artist” and there’d be some bizarre one-off rich character who would spend millions on it
You're spot on, I also think it's a jab at delusional people who dream about fame before they put in the work.
Pam wants to do "art", she wants to take an art course, and does this grand gesture of having an entire gallery up of all her work and all it shows is that she hasn't put in enough time.
But she's incapable of self reflection, to realize she's not putting in enough practice time, yet she still rented out a gallery to sell her paintings.
It reeks of someone who wants fame, but doesn't understand the commitment it takes to stand out. Her interest in water color art is passing at best.
And in this moment she doesn't think her art is worth selling to even Michael because she realizes she didn't take her art seriously enough to be worth selling to anyone. That's why she gives it up.
Pam is just like any other millenial who see creative hobbies as methods to fame and riches. Instead of using them for self actualization - creative expression, she's just using it for her ego and for money.
>and does this grand gesture of having an entire gallery up of all her work and all it shows is that she hasn't put in enough time.
it was a show put on as part of the art class she was taking, presumably all of the students were showing their progress and it was an event for family and friends.
pay attention next time and maybe you wont embarrass yourself
My mistake but I've witnessed these student art galleries in person at college. And you can really see the disparity between someone who only doodled in class and reached the level of a beginner gamer webcomic telling relatable jokes.
Vs seeing awesome concept art that will go on to be used in Hollywood and video games.
Talent is just having an eye for detail, an inherent knowledge of what works and what doesn't. But even then they still need to practice. Pam doesn't have talent nor did she practice. She's not actually serious about her art hence why she's never gotten past this amateur level.
Anyone can make art if they put in the time and effort.
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
>sorry your midiclorians are too low to paint sir.
>My mistake but I've witnessed these student art galleries in person at college
take it to soc
>pay attention to this episode that aired a decade+ ago.
come for the king better not miss
>practice time
lol
the talentless genuinely believe that more time will make them less talentless
>less talentless
Stfu esl
did she frick Michael?
The joke was that her work was below average. It wouldn't have made sense she was a world renowed artist. But her being a comically bad artist would have been to predictable and fallen flat.
The joke works because her art is nothing special.
>below average
So you can do better?
I hate that gay homosexual Oscar for talking shit. I'd literally kick his homosexual ass if he talked like that to my girlfriend
Was soijack based on this specific homie?
Shut up newBlack person
Chudjak yes.
>bring your brother and look at all the art
>Tell Pam her art is the prettiest art
>she gets mad and sulks for 2 weeks
I really didn't like how they did roy in that show. Pam was the one who cheated yet they painted him to be the bad guy.
Pam didn't cheat and Roy actually was kind of a shithead
i would frick pam and make her pregnant
pam represent ever middling, boring late twenties female office worker. go to any corperate office building and you'll find hundreds of them
in real life, they're fat 90% of the time due to a sedentary lifestyle.
true, only fat is an understatement
Even Hitler was better
Why did Michael Scott only buy her unframed A4 printer paper painting of the Dunder-Mifflin building and not her completely off-perspective paintings of a stapler and a mug?
worse than hitler
>actually getting offended and enraged at someone else's sincere effort
>Someone fictional no less
Why are you all so full of resentment and rage? It's disturbing
>Sincere effort
>Painting a mug
A child could paint a mug.
Boohoo you homosexual. Try not to take everything you read on the internet with such breathless seriousness
>what is shitposting for fun?
yes, everytime somebody is criticized is pure passion and pent up anger. How long have you been a gay?
People have been discussing office characters for a decade because they're well written people with lots of depth. But they're all with issues and we can see an actual person inside.
Pam is a reflection of a person everyone knows, or understands.
A bit of Pam's personality is in all of us.
She hates where she is in life but can't see an exit strategy so she wants something that will help her escape
She takes on a creative outlet, which is great because many people need one. But she does what every person understandably does, which is let a fantasy take over.
"Imagine I get so good at art i can quit my job and live off my art!! Then I'll be rich and interesting!"
Everyone has this idea. It's not bad but it's self indulgent. Most people realize it's unrealistic to quit their job and take an expensive college course. It's not like college courses actually teach real art, it's the worst scam next to gender studies.
Pam's art is understandable, we've all been there. In this criticism I'm not saying she's dumb, I'm not saying I'm better. I'm saying I get it. it tells an important message about how people view art, not as a method of expressing feelings or some other gay shit, it's that millenials view art as a means to an end, to escape working and to become an interesting person.
At least millennials have a fricking dream. Boomers literally just watch TV while their house goes up in value and zoomers are too soulless to feel anything from looking at or making art.
>Boomers literally just watch TV while their house goes up in value
or so they think. meanwhile jose from juarez and jamal move into the neighborhood
Juarex and jamal and their 10 million recent fellow invaders are all lowering the overall supply of housing.
I would like to dig out your eyes with a spoon and frick start your brain, you moron. 100iq average thinkers like you are the problem with humanity. Fricking woman.
I'd like to see your midwit take on Pam then. There's no "objective" analysis of characters, we're all perceiving them differently.
why are all those parrots hangin out like that on that building?
Probably licking the salt off the bricks
SOUL
Most people in the thread just want to dunk on artgays. I don't even think the premise was "a joke." It was played for character development and to have a sweet moment between her and Michael. Her art isn't terrible, it's just obvious she is new. This is also a pivotal time where you have to accept that you suck and push through to get better. If anything it shows that her instructors are pieces of shit for not telling her to matte and frame her artwork and telling her to ditch the stapler and coffee mug and just stick with the other 4. If her school was worth a shit they would have had a student show where everyone is basically at a similar level and the expectation of the show is that it's for the class and they are new artists. The sad part is that she gives up after barely trying.
>Most people in the thread just want to dunk on artgays.
I dont know when and why this became a thing here. It's so weird.
Is this the new "owning the liberals epic style"? Looks the same to me.
It's just humans being shit as always. It's the same thing when you're walking with someone and they start attacking the style of some car driving down the street, or some stranger's outfit. Offloading petty cruelty in a quick burst.
Artgays started.
Every time we started posting or talking about AI art, artgays would seethe infinitely and demand the thread to be deleted and everyone involved to be banned. that's it.
now I'm happy when artgays lose their jobs
>low IQ artgay conflates politics with artists acting like pretentious douchebags
Lol k
Cinemaphileners hate people, more news at 11. But nah, I don’t think it’s dunking on artgays, it’s dunking on insincere positivity which seems to predominate the art world. Criticism can be useful, and if you push past your ego being temporarily bruised and continue working despite the a real critical reception, that’s often the best way to improve. It’s the first trial by fire that people face when pursuing their passions and developing them into strengths, and in order to seem more compassionate (emphasis on SEEM rather than be) we’ve collectively tried to eliminate trials by fire. But trials by fire are usually the best way to burn away mere hobbyists and bring out real artists.
Artgays are as useless as homeless people but with more pretension
I was hanging out with a prominent retired heart surgeon who is a ceramic artist just yesterday afternoon when I was at the studio. You get distracted by all the post modern hipsters with doodle tattoos. Artists come in all types and flavors. Most of those liberal artgays dont' actually make art after their overprices artschool.
>Do you accept there is a difference between artgays and artists? Maybe we could agree on that.
I guess
Do you accept there is a difference between artgays and artists? Maybe we could agree on that.
?
I'm not even that other anon, but I'm curious why you think not everybody could be a artist if they tried?
Because you are born talented or you don't. You can't work your way to become a visionary person, and without that you arent really a artist, just a guy that can make decent drawings or whatever.
It's that attitude why people hate artists. ANYONE can be visionary and creative unless they have some serious disability, and that doesn't even stop everyone.
Not true. You are probably creative, that's why it seems like it's natural. Most of people have no creativity at all in their body.
Verification not required
100% false
I don't want some homosexual visionary painting post modern abstract depictions of his buttplug collection. Give me a nice painting of the Battle of Fort McHenry, or of a Saturn V rocket on that launch pad, or the Wright brothers flying. I can even tolerate impressionism.
I've always wondering how much a commission for a large oil on canvass would be.
there!
that is the reason why people hate artist.
this is some maximum copium ovgerdrive to belive you're so special nobody could do what you do. you're the chosen one!
it is a skill! like writing or throwing a rock, that definetly can be mastered and improved. some people can pick it up quicker or have a unique approach but it's just a skill, it isn't god given
it takes 2 seconds to google famous artista who started late in life
The same reason not everyone could be a professional baseball player if they just tried hard enough.
she's like 30
she really felt confident enough to post that shit when she's clearely just a student?
these characters aren't real, I don't want to go in a stupid in depth analisys because the writers didn't waste their times coming up with every single Pam's brain cells synapses
So what? I've taught 75 year old women and even a blind person how to use the pottery wheel.
they felt confident enought to publicize it and sell it?
>haha your art is shit. You should have never tried in the first place if you have no talent
nice crab mentality gays
Pam isn't doing art because she enjoys art. Shes using it as a vehicle to escape wageslaving as a secretary.
She's not skilled enough to make it through art school because she sees her effort compared to people who are serious and genuinely interested in pursuing art no matter what.
And the reason she quit doing art is because she never cared about it to begin with, it was always a means to an end.
Just like so many people want to be actors because it comes with fame and riches. But directors aren't picking out any random guy off the street. They're looking at people who work in theatre on stage who enjoy the process even if there's little to no money involved. That's where art stems from, a genuine enjoyment of the process and creativity.
>She's not skilled enough to make it through art school
Why not?
Well, I'll reword it. She's not going to make it after 1 year of effort. But as
Says it takes time. Pam just gives up because she wanted an easy escape. She "could" theoretically keep doing art and make money but she'll be old by then.
Why can't she just keep doing art without the prospect of being paid? If she truly enjoyed art she'd be doing it regardless if it made her any money. But we know that's not Pam's intention.
First off, you didn't need to write "psychology" before saying my statement was interesting.
And your first statement contradicts your second. You're saying I'm right and that my point is stated multiple times throughout the show, but now you're saying I'm staying otherwise?
I think you just lack reading comprehension... and generally any English comprehension. My impression is that you're must young.
>he "could" theoretically keep doing art and make money but she'll be old by then.
>Why can't she just keep doing art without the prospect of being paid?
What do you imagine the correlation between "doing art" and "being paid" is lmfao?
Because she quit her fricking job moron. She banked her future on being able to live off her art. She really thought she'd go to art school and immediately start making cash when she graduated.
People with brain cancer have better media literacy than you.
Incel screed didn't read, now answer my actual question.
If my answer wasn't sufficient can you rephrase your question for me
What is the function between making art and getting paid, draw a graph of the correlation that you're imagining between those two actions/properties in your head.
Your question just moronic, same with your moronic life. What a pointless time waster you are.
She didn't quit her fricking job, "moron". It's becoming more and more obvious that you've never seen the show with every post
What do you call someone who leaves a job, is replaced.
>Pam isn't doing art because she enjoys art. Shes using it as a vehicle to escape wageslaving as a secretary.
These are both true and stated explicitly multiple times in the show. The point being that she wants a job she enjoys and is passionate about, rather than being a secretary which has no meaning.
I find it really psychologically interesting that you're claiming otherwise. I mean you had to ignore large chunks of the show to write this deranged rant. Seems like you have some issues you need to work out.
She gives up before she ever really started. It's actually incredibly common. I had a life drawing class and there was this girl there who was struggling and being self deprecating like it was a reflection of her character. You're taking ONE class and you expect for everything to just click in a couple of months? People give up from fear rather than a lack of talent. Every few art classes are like that. People beat themselves up and just give up entirely because they think you have to be a natural.
This. People project a lot into art, which is ironically the point lol.
That's some military grade seething. Projecting onto boomers when nobody mentioned them? Your post is basically off topic.
And millenials are far worse than boomers when it comes to art. It's just a medium for income to the . I think most millenials were more struck with delusions of fame than any previous generation before them.
You're the one bringing up millennials you projecting homosexual.
>that stapler
I could do better when I was 5
She is
Move on Pam...
Would
I really don't care enough about this stupid show to argue about this shit
Nobody's arguing, it's just a peaceful discussion. Are you mentally ill or some shit
I went to the school she supposedly goes to. Its so weird because the only talented and later prominent artist I met there dropped out (Anna Park)
Doesn't art come from years of practice? What can be learned at art school that you can't pick up from a few books and youtube tutorials.
Nothing, hence why anon said
>the only talented and later prominent artist I met there dropped out (Anna Park)
It's a delusional fantasy to think art school will make you an artist. It's a scam. Like straight up, joining a club or watching Bob Ross wil provide more fundamental knowledge than some grifters asking for thousands of dollars hand over fist to show you YouTube tutorials.
It all comes down to the quality of the professors. Some professors are really cool and there is value in having someone there to share experience just like anything else. The price of the school though isn't a guarantee. A painting teacher at a community college might have a lot more wisdom and be a better mentor than some dipshit at a prestigious university. Art education is just really fricked up in general but it's not totally useless or invalid.
Did Jenna Fischer do all of it herself? That would make more sense for why they wouldn't get a professional to shit out some watercolors in an hour or two.
ive seen way worse in top tier art schools but to actually put a stapler in an art show is absurd
Those aren't bad but for someone attempting realism they are mediocre.
>office thread on friday
Hell yeah officebros that's so epic
which the office character are you I'm totally Stanley haha
Creed. Go on a diet fatty
Pam is textbook Gen X, but somehow this is a reflection of millennial mindsets.
It's a fine start. Artists like her just need encouragement. It takes tens of thousands of hours to be decent.
In retrospect this show really did encourage mediocrity.
The Dunder Mifflin building is soul.
i know you're speaking about the painting in OP, but the building itself and the interior sets are so damn comfy. comfiest before Jim goes to Stanford, but still comfy after the merger. when Jim get his own office it gets way less cozy
Chud bros, there is hope for us yet.
>tall
>landowner
>defeated the girl's crush (Roy) winning the alpha male status in her eyes
Good luck with those.
troony psyops won't work. The chud power couple has been depicted, billions will be inspired. The white race will be preserved, the west will be saved.
I NEED to FRICK Angela so bad
atleast she did follow her passion #OP unlike you wasting time insulting her!
>Respect Pam.
Yes, this is a common occurrence among artists, especially since it's a difficult industry to get in hence why her work is good, but nothing special and she realizes this over several seasons. Did you even watch the show or do you have the IQ of a kindergartner and missed the point?
Michael Scott is a time traveling who went back in time to stop the next Hitler.
i see why he was rejected from art school. look at the perspective on the woman on the bottom right. move her 10 feet closer to the building and her head would be reaching the 2nd floor window
Him being rejected doesn't so much had to do with the quality of the work on his postcards, everyone understood that he was a young man on the grind. The issue is that that's all he had going for him. Oh here's a picture of a castle in Bavaria, here's a street in Vienna, the berlin reichtag, etc. Meanwhile other artists are doing genuinely crazy shit like pic related and actually exploring what art even was on a fundemental level. Hitler got so assblasted by this fact that he seethed about it for the rest of his life.
and look where all those abstract buttplugs got us, WWIII nice
Isn't that the point of art school so you learn stuff like that?
that's like expecting harvard to teach you arithmetic.
No. Its something you learn about at like age 10. You don't need to go to some fancy vienna school to learn about perspective. Its literally just drawing lines to one or more vanishing points and that helps you line things up windows properly and making sure the size of people make sense. While Hitler was sitting around struggling to even do that shit Dali, at age 6, was painting stuff like pic related.
This is garbage though why would you post this as though it's some 6 year old stunting on people. It rightfully looks like it was painted by a child lmao
you know what an entry test is?
Jenna a CUTE