She killed billions.

See bri is a good character along Cinemaphilelette, Cinemaphilenrad, and even LL give out.
But thing is Bri and a few things could be done on her world like

It's dogshit with whiny fans is what it is.
Bri is ugly. If she had a better design or a less stupid world or preferably both she'd have more art.

, considering it IS just the idea of a Fallout-esque world but about boobs and shit.
I mean her design is good, especially her angered and jojo like designs, it gives one a good vibe, but if we focus on maybe redesigning some Cinemaphile stuff, we could see something

>Bri has the most going on setting wise, but it doesn't pull together in any way, it reads like exactly what it is- a mishmash of shit that was popular at the moment it was made.

Bri's problem was actually more simple than that. An anon claimed to be a girl with big breasts so everyone simped for her and let her be the project manager, and she was bad at the job because she was an idea guy and not someone that could actually do anything themselves.
GG was drawgay driven from the start, so the character designs and setting are more manageable for lazy or burnt out artists to consistently produce.

That's a pretty good sketch.

>muscle mommy madness
Uh huh
>LL
Buddy look at my post

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>Reimagined a suspicious e-girlcon like character whose "petite" and is said to be an adult
I don't see where your going for, but I don't intend for any fricked up e-girlcon shit, I'm not being hypocritical, I'm just thinking it's the best option to do considering it's kinda weird when she LOOKs like a kid.
I mean there is the option to rework the inadequancies, or something.

, I'm thinking of reworking her character

Cool, fanfiction of a dated, ugly, crowdsourced pastiche of of ideas that are dated.
You're gonna fix it for sure, champ. Gonna take right off, especially since you have your inspiration so locked down oh wait you're asking advice in a thread about a character you are pretending ineffectively to moralize about

He means in terms of going from short and sticc to towering amazon, you dumbass.

This single drawing is better than anything that ever was or could be done with Briana.

>I see, well do you think Bri could work as some sort of Desert Nomad with a gun? Less tit possibly?
The core premise was basically Fist of the North Star/ Mad Max which is why the eariiest drafts have Briana look even more like Kenshiro.
Problem is wasteland punk type villains are a pain in the ass to draw and I don't think anyone actually took that into consideration.
So no, the core premise just isn't as artist friendly as capeshit, which is just "put colors on a nude doll and add a cape".
>What about LL? I think she does fine considering her natural as a girl with a load of problems that thinks big and gets the job done.
LL's success is an inexplicable freak accident to me but it's probably for similar reasons. People might claim otherwise for good reason but capeshit is just more accessible.
>Also I deeply dislike GG because she's a e-girlcon character with a style akin to panda delago, and not meaning in a good way what so ever.
I still think it's funny that she's older than Panda and nobody can admit to it, because she's short. Especially since LL is even shorter (pretty sure Marley is legally a little person) *and* flat and somehow doesn't trigger the same ick factor for people. Your opinions are valid but based on an arbitrary made up number, likely heard second hand.

>Actually I read body bags and checking reviews, I kinda came to a agreement that I hate these characters with a justified hatred.
I meant with regards to GG's age. Shitposters claim she's anywhere between 10 and 13, despite the fact that when she was conceived her age was officially "however old Raven is". Even the most liberal estimates say she's gotta be at least 16 for the story's timeline to make any kind of sense, but some people are just real insistent about her being younger than she actually is for various reasons.

No, because 16-ish puts her squarely in high school. 18 is the start of college-age, which is when she becomes Bullion and reaches a more average height.

There are 19 year old high schoolers and sometimes even 20 year olds.

No, because 16-ish puts her squarely in high school. 18 is the start of college-age, which is when she becomes Bullion and reaches a more average height.

There's also the inherent youth implied in sidekicks.

>pedophilia?
I wasn't gonna say it but yeah, If you see a 16 year old and insist she's 10 despite evidence to the contrary that's your wishful thinking at work. That's not on anyone but you.

I'm that anon, so allow me to explain then: I guess it is the vibe they are given, with GG it's obvious with her being a kid with the way she looks but having a adult like asset on her.
With LL it's the way she looks: like a kid, but comes off to be explained as a adult I guess? She really does, in the comics AND offical sketch work, looks like a genuine cute kid hero, but the way the other stuff is, I'm starting to reconsider alot and consider the best of getting her into a reimagined role as a child.

>pedophilia?
I wasn't gonna say it but yeah, If you see a 16 year old and insist she's 10 despite evidence to the contrary that's your wishful thinking at work. That's not on anyone but you.

It's delusional thinking

But a huge chunk of Marley's characterisation comes from the fact that she's a young adult that looks like a child and the feelings of inadequacy she experinces because of it.
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See for yourself:
https://the-conservatory.fandom.com/wiki/A_History_of_/co/_Creations#2023

>Reimagined a suspicious e-girlcon like character whose "petite" and is said to be an adult
I don't see where your going for, but I don't intend for any fricked up e-girlcon shit, I'm not being hypocritical, I'm just thinking it's the best option to do considering it's kinda weird when she LOOKs like a kid.
I mean there is the option to rework the inadequancies, or something.

Totally agree. Really wish these people would stop messing with the character origins and go make their own OC.

But a huge chunk of Marley's characterisation comes from the fact that she's a young adult that looks like a child and the feelings of inadequacy she experinces because of it.

Does /coc/ even produce anything new nowadays or is it all the same decade-old concepts?

See for yourself:
https://the-conservatory.fandom.com/wiki/A_History_of_/co/_Creations#2023

Lovely Ladybug, she's a /co created character

I am, but I'm just saying I thought it was bad less you all get heat

You can't be that stupid. It was done by SaburoX himself. AI would have fricked up the hands big time.
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She's an 18 year old who can't look 18 because of reasons so she looks 13 lawl.

Oh god, one of those? One of those "this child is a 1000 year old dragon" deals? Guys, stop pretending. You like e-girl. This is e-girlcon. Why pretend you don't?

The fricking gall of some people to try and demand changes to the long established characters, with an actual ongoing comic series no less.
>gee, can we change this decade long thing? xitter says it's kinda problematic :/
>I mean, I'm a talentless lazy homosexual who can't offer anything better, but me and my moronic sensibilities would REALLY appreciate it
The worst, the most obnoxious kind of an idea guy.

I dare you to go up to a real-life dwarf and tell them that they're a e-girl.

Alright, I have no clue what this is turning into, I understand then I may have caused a disagreement/devastating discord in this thread, I will say that I have no clue if the setup shit is about me or whatever it is, and don't know with all this shit with OCs.
Look, all I'm saying is people will start talking, especially from twitter which I'm constnatly on and on here from here til night, I don't know what to make of it anymore.

I don't mean anything but I'm just some lost in all of morality tbh.

Ok, how would you push this character to a normal non fetish audience?

...Dude , otaku culture is not prevalent in Japan.
France knows how to be subtle about their jail bait and they have history of wanting to diddle kids.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petitions_against_age_of_consent_laws

How can you have GG without her knockers. She does not have a character beyond her obvious ignorance how bad her breasts are.

A one note character can't be the protagonist.
Dogwelder can't be a main character in his own story.
The Mad Bomber who Bombs at midnight can't be a main character.
GG can't be a main character, because she does not and cannot have anything else to her besides her breasts.

Gwenpool if she did the "sidekick is really the brains of the team" bit.

I don't care for her stories.
I care that the author has locked the character as nothing more then a sex joke and expect to have anything beyond "LOL KIDDIE breasts" to it.

I was just thinking the same thing. That guy hasn't read any of the strips people have made.

Why should I?
Lurk moar if you really care.

I'm going to be real with you. You're wasting your time. Take whatever good idea you had for GG and apply it to something else that wouldn't ruin your career if it got connected to you.

Okay man. When your work inevitably gets linked to you as it does with everybody, just remember some anon on the Internet tried to help you.

>I'm going to be real with you. I don't give a damn. I write stories for fun.
That remains to be seen all I see is bait and b***hing. No actual writing.

Hey uh, if your pattern recognition skills were working right you would be able to tell that this being the general reaction to GG means that people in general aren't comfortable with a 13 year old being used for a breast humiliation fetish?

It's not white knighting it's people being normal compared to you.

Maybe it's because you're trying to shame people on Cinemaphile of all places instead of fricking off somewhere else?
Like really, what are you even trying to accomplish here?

Uh, because it's funny? It's hilarious you've been obsessed with "What if Robin was a 12 year old girl with breasts bigger than her head?" for what now, a decade? The same old "stories" and fetish pics for year after year after year. It's like learning someone spent a decade trying to worldbuild a setting around diaperfurries. It's funny. You're funny.

And now she's twelve. Every time you gays start whining she gets younger and younger in each post. It's hilarious wishing on your part.

Can you at least cool the toxicity down there, fricker?

Cool, fanfiction of a dated, ugly, crowdsourced pastiche of of ideas that are dated.
You're gonna fix it for sure, champ. Gonna take right off, especially since you have your inspiration so locked down oh wait you're asking advice in a thread about a character you are pretending ineffectively to moralize about

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This single drawing is better than anything that ever was or could be done with Briana.

That's alot of shit talk

You yourself got a temper issue bud

nice ESL

I didn't.
I just think it's weird that between Marley, Audrey, and now Hazel, you're demanding a bunch of characters be made younger than they actually are. Not asking, straight up demanding. And when you got told Marley was an adult you go "I'm gonna *reimagine* her as a child and you can't stop me"
Shit's suspect. Kinda sounds like you're begging for e-girls because that's what you actually want.

anon that was me talking about making her a child, and I'm only doing that idea OUT OF FACT BECAUSE SHE LOOKS LIKE A YOUNG GIRL BUT IS OLDER THAN SHE IS.
THAT'S e-girlCON

>go and stay go
supported evidence for how stupid you are

You homosexuals really couldn't just make her 18 to avoid all this? It was just so goddamn important to her that she be jailbait?

This

your xitter shit doesn't belong here, homosexual.

He means in terms of going from short and sticc to towering amazon, you dumbass.

Who drew this?

Finally, a name.
Does he still draw?

I would like to commission this artist. His art is the kind I think of when I imagine GG, and the skill I wish to attain.

Now that i didn't know. Remarkable.

Not that anon but

>At what point is a character a e-girl to you?
When being a child is part of the gimmick and attraction. Like some generic anime jailbait isn't e-girl, because arbitrary designs can be given arbitrary numbers. Oh she's actually 16, not 17/18? It's not e-girl, because people aren't lusting after Lum because she looks like a child, they're lusting after her because she looks hot. You can say "whatever, in this picture she's 18. Why not? Nothing changes at all."

The thing with GG that makes her e-girl is the insistence that she can't be 18. She can't be legal. She has to be an underdeveloped girl with a developed chest. The people that like GG like underaged girls. And there's nothing wrong with being like that so long as they control the compulsion, I don't think they should be jailed or anything, but they need to realize that they like children over adults and that they need to watch themselves.

Read the rest of the post. You fundamentally can't go "she's 18 here" with GG. That's what makes her e-girl.

>White Knighting
Motherfricker, did I say for you to drop your desire to frick kids? No. I just want you to acknowledge it. She's developed breasts on an underdeveloped body. She's a child fetish character. You like visual depictions of kids. You don't need to be punished, you don't need to go to jail, but it's so damn creepy that you try and deny it's e-girlcon.

Yes I'm happy. All I wanted was for you to stop pretending it wasn't.

Honestly, it's pretty much the same faux-high-and-mighty shitposting whenever someone starts a GG thread outside of /coc/.

You already admitted this is a e-girlcon project.

GG has always been a 13 year old e-girl. You're the homosexuals that keep aging her up because she makes you uncomfortable.

>GG has always been a 13 year old e-girl.
That's that wishful thinking projection again. Find me an actual post from her creation that says that. You can't.
I suggest you take your hurt feelings and go.

All you prude gays in this thread saying she was 16 just got owned. I told you she was always 13.

Kisame here. Fine I will defend her. Gen Z doesn't watch cape shit to begin with. They only like Tobey Maguire Spiderman and Christopher Nolan Dark Knight. Gen Z doesn't like grim dark so Audrey is safe cause she's like Miles Morales. Adults watch Spiderverse II and didn't care Miles was a teen. They think P Diddy, Vince McMahon are bigger monsters than Cinemaphile.

I am a millennial with OCD and I didn't become helicopter parent around my three year old nephew. You just want to be paratrooper boomer. Even my fundie pastor doesn't know about my gallon dragon baron days. You're just mad libs are winning

My family already knows about the art I commission as Kisame17. They just see it as cartoons

I don't know what the frick a e-girlcon is. I am a 90s millennial. I argue everything is safety proofed so boomers and zoomers don't injure themselves.

I am currently on Vitamin B12 and Shilajit. I don't think genuine stupidity is permitted. What's a matter? Still mad you're trooning instead of becoming robo boomer?

I'm thinking Nam vet sorta guy that lost an arm and a leg but got muscular metal ones with rocket launchers in them but the rest of his body is flabby and out of shape
or maybe a sound weapon, Boom Box or something

Are billy and Racketeer still around later on?

>Racketeer might not be but no one has decided.
If he does show up I hope its something like:
>Whoever this new crime boss is, he's caused quite the commotion since he's gotten into town.
>Commotion? Or "Racket"?!

18 isn't sidekick age? Man, look, the real creepy thing here is all the hoops you're jumping through to "justify" GG. You're on Cinemaphile, dude. Just come out and admit its a fetish. You want big breasts on a little girl body. It's more respectable that way than to go AKTUALLY SHE'S 14 BECAUSE OF THEMATIC REASONS.

I actually agree with this anon. I love GG's design and gimmick. I like the concept of the the comics code as rewriting the world and characters like Iris and Katya. But it does feel weird how adamant everyone is about her being young. Like its hard to even get people to agree on 16. Most people are dead set on her being 14 and personally, that just feels like a baby to me. And I probably wouldn't even mind that except having big fat breasts IS GGs whole gimmick. I would argue she isn't GG without her big breasts. And most of the jokes are about wardrobe malfunctions or hitting someone with her knockers by accident or tripping over herself. A lot of it comes off as just humiliation porn. And nobody being able to see it isnt subverting it so much as its enhancing it. Comes off as a very "look at this girl fumble around with huge breasts while everyone looks at her like a weirdo." And thats just not what appeals to me about the character. And I wanna write stories for her and draw her but I honestly don't know what to do that isn't retread a tired gag or try to change the character in a way that feels like it's betraying the core appeal. Cuz honestly I wish the age aspect wasn't so integral to the character.

lol imagine if that actually happen to someone lol

Looks like the big titty hapa country guy drew it

>Narrative purposes
Stop pretending. She's under 18 because she stops getting you hot and bothered when he's 18. "Oh 18 year olds can't be plucky, awkward teens" bullshit. That's bullshit and you know it. Lum is 17, legal across several states and countries, and she still has a plucky, awkward, bratty teenager personality.

No, of course not. But being attracted to a 17 year old cartoon is the same as being attracted to an 18 or 28 or 88 year old one. As I posted, people don't like Lum because she's a child, they like her because she's hot. The number assigned to her design is arbitrary. You can assign any age to pic related.

That's not the case with GG. The number assigned to her design is anything but arbitrary to the point people that ask "Can we just make her 18 so it stops being creepy?" are viciously shut down.

By your logic it's okay at 16 because that's also legal in some states.

There's more evidence towards 16 than anything else. Sorry, but you're wrong.

You homosexuals really couldn't just make her 18 to avoid all this? It was just so goddamn important to her that she be jailbait?

If nothing else this thread as demonstrated that the number doesn't matter because anons with hurt feelings are going to say you're lying no matter what.

This is Hana Uzaki. She's a 20 year old college student. We see her, in college, with a part time job, doing 20 year old stuff.
Internet warriors still insist she's twelve, because reality doesn't matter to them. They just want to be mad.

Big difference here. She's officially 20. Golden Girl ranges from 8 to 16 with people desperately wishing 18 was the actual age.

This is Eve from the soon to be released Stellar Blade.
If you care to for some reason, you'll notice this exact same discourse is still around, surrounding the soon to be released Stellar Blade. Eve clearly has signs of post pubescence but because she doesn't have the face of a 40 year old chain smoker? All the gays still salty about gamergate are insisting she looks like a child. Clearly the character pedo bait.

Actual character age and design don't matter.These gays will still be on their bullshit.

So you admit to liking young looking girls then?
(I am being sarcastic if that's not clear)

>Eva is not given an age and even she was she does not have proportions which would make her breasts larger then 99% of her body.
Right. So she's neotenous.

So you're a racist and a pedo.

>GG's age doesn't matter
>Which is why I'm adamant she can only be any number below 18.

>Robins have been about that age since the bronze age.
That's completely wrong, actually.
Tim was 16, as was Steph. Damien's even younger.

Good, can we get 16? Can we at least have that? It's still creepy as frick but at least it's not an 8 year old.

>Good, can we get 16?
That's literally what we have, yes.

>Actually I read body bags and checking reviews, I kinda came to a agreement that I hate these characters with a justified hatred.
I meant with regards to GG's age. Shitposters claim she's anywhere between 10 and 13, despite the fact that when she was conceived her age was officially "however old Raven is". Even the most liberal estimates say she's gotta be at least 16 for the story's timeline to make any kind of sense, but some people are just real insistent about her being younger than she actually is for various reasons.

's pic is canonical.

16 is her most commonly depicted age. you don't even care about GG, you're just some xitter homosexual looking for drama.

>at what point is a character a e-girl to you?
e-girl is 100% body type. The character has to look vaguely pre-pubescent in her proportions. Age is and always will be irrelevant to whether something is e-girl or not. It's how e-girlbaba's and the "1000 year old e-girl" are a thing and why 14 year old characters that have massive breasts, wide hips or ass are generally never e-girl even if they are canonically underage.

This entire discourse has been irrelevant from the getgo since by defacto Golden Girl can't ever be a e-girl (she's not even an Oppai e-girl). Entire thread derailed for nothing.

>e-girl is about the age
It's not, objectively. Brush up on your weebisms

Besides if such a thing were true anyway it would STILL be inaccurate, since the canonical age would have to be prepubescent and Golden Girl is clearly a teenager, by that metric she once again can't be e-girl. But again that's the wrong definition anyway, as that'd make characters like Yoko Littner and Yanagi Uzaki e-girl which is wrong

Gay.

>Almost all of her fan art makes her breasts twice as big as her head, when she has a normal set of big breasts.
To be fair, the FMVs also make her look like this

I already do and I hate every single piece that I produce.

This. Jason Pearson hated his own work so much he killed himself.

Being bad at something is the first step to being good at something.

well, darn

You you'd the wrong post then.

The little golden girl is ours. She will always be our special one.

>Innocent 1950s girl overcome by a secret physical
Nope, she does not overcome it because she is ignorant most of time of it.
The point is "KIDDIE TIDDIES".
Its just glorification of sexualization of Children. And that is pedophiles are existed of the corrution of innocence.

GG is a naive character who does not understand how much of a freak she is and that is the ultimate pedo bait.
A child not understanding how it affect people surrounding it.

How is she not naive to her freak-o size?
Or you just screaming reatard 5 times hoping to summon Chris-chan.

....Oh please, this is the main Joke.
There is only a single person who notices it and that is her class mate.

Spoon feed me because you make 0 sense.

Expect no one expect one of her classmates is able to see her breasts (yes it is as stupid as it sounds). So outside of physical comedy her being a titcow can’t affect other people or be abused

>GG is a naive character who does not understand how much of a freak she is
So now you're just making stuff up.
I mean you always were but I got a handful of comics here that say exactly the opposite of that.

Early SaburoX art. You can see she's smaller here than he draws her years later. About the size of that AI art

Yes and artists draw her from original size to incredibly massive. Get over it.

Take your crusade to Cinemaphile they have like 3 GGs every season.

Move those goalposts!