When they started being pandered to with Korra. Since then they've been extremely entitled and act like they deserve their personal ship to be canon, like with Voltron.
Once it became clear that showrunners will alter their storylines to make ships canon “in the name of queer representation,” the ugliest of ship wars started to happen.
Say what you will about ATLA, it was clear that Kataang was planned from the beginning. Meanwhile Korrasami clearly only happened because Bryke paid too much attention to the fandom.
Shipping motivates some of the most beautiful and cutest fanart and interesting fanworks. Like some of the most gorgeous or craziest or deepest works I’ve seen have been centered around two little characters the artist/writer has a fondness for seeing together. Beyond the enrapturement that the feelings and chemistry between two characters causes, it triggers a lot of thought and a analyzing of every single thing within a character’s makeup and how it blends, compares, and opposes others. It invites deeper thought on the potential transformations of a character’s thoughts and feelings.
It is not something to ignore and deride. It’s a powerful and passionate creative force that should be encouraged, like any autistic obsession.
The only thing is that when people make characters with the intention of shipping, they stop being as shippable. Like somebody who’s actively trying to attract someone by mimicking behaviours instead of being their most authentic and attractive self..
>waifuhomosexualry isn't the same as shipping.
How is it not?
It's worse. Also he shipped her into a story he made up as well as other invented characters he made.
Was the Voltron story about some sick kid who got to see behind-the-scenes stuff on the show and shippers went nuts and threatened the kid online true? I don't watch Voltron, I don't even know what details I'm getting wrong.
Never watched Voltron either, but the story IIRC... >Voltron fan wins a contest or something and gets to tour Voltron studio >Fan sneaks into off-limits areas and snaps photos of spoiler content >Fan then threatens Voltron show runners to meet her demands of making a ship canon or else she starts slowly uploading spoilers on Twitter over the course of days
I think you're confusing the "Sick kid getting threatened" part with the make a wish kid who got to see upcoming Steven Universe episodes early and post about them on Twitter
It was Naruto, hands down the fact that Naruto and Sasuke weren't gays for each other mindbroke so many yaoi fangirls which already no lifed cartoons, they screamed so loud about it you can still hear the echoes sometimes.
>Ben 10
This one gave me migraines. They literally could not stop shipping Ben and his cousin Gwen together, then in Alien Force the homosexuals constantly shipped Ben and Kevin together.
>constantly shipped Ben and Kevin together.
the ironic part is that Ben and Kevin had better chemistry with each other than either of them had with Gwen.
How the frick were they going to explain them traveling together with an old guy without them being related? Why would they even keep hanging out considering how much they pissed each other off early on? Them being stuck in a familial obligation is pretty important to the basic premise of why she's there at all.
Anon said it was a late change though. What was the initial plan? I guess neighbors would have worked but then there's no traveling.
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I never watched the show, but would something like the 2 of them being stuck with extra credit for the summer and the grandpa just being a chaperone have worked?
They were always mentally unstable. Some of the first recorded fanfictions were ship fics about Kirk and Spock.
The reason the term slash even exists is literally because of Star Trek. The slash part iirc refers to the slash symbol between K/S. The first fanzines were about stuff like this. This whole pairing has its own wikipedia page because of how it impacted fandoms. Mary Sue is another term created because of Star Trek fanfic.
I fricking hate Spirk shippers.i get the appeal but I got threatened to be doxxed for saying I shipped TOS Uhura/Spock.
That cute song and her teasing him is so cute. And Nichols is a treasure.
Men will create stories and live lives of being desperately in love with another man, but will deny it’s romance just because they don’t want to buttfrick them.
You’d open yourself to a beautiful understanding if you could realize that being in love doesn’t necessarily go hand in hand with wanting to frick. And newsflash, butt stuff is a filter for many. Girls are probably more flexible because we know it’s not gonna lead to that.
If your heart aches for a man. Wouldn’t it be nice to know it and consciously see him as the special One to you? Your weakness and your strength?
But you can’t acknowledge it (because what you think is the endgame shuts you down) and because then he would think you’re weird and everyone would think you’re weird and it would all be ruined. Like two cups spinning rim to rim, swilling contents occasionally kissing but hastily swishing apart again. If you begin to pour, you’ll lose it all, because you set out no basin to catch and mix these flavors of drink.
It sucks to be a man don’t it, having to hide your heart in a labryinth. But echoes in the labryinth’s empty walls and the challenge of the maze are also part of life’s beauty
>Men will create stories and live lives of being desperately in love with another man, but will deny it’s romance just because they don’t want to buttfrick them.
People who see romance in friendship belie the fact that they've never had an actual friend.
This kind of shit doesn't even surprise me anymore.
Having to make all of their interactions with other people into special bullshit concepts is the only way they seem capable of functioning.
Honestly it wouldn't even be that bad if they'd just stop pushing those concepts on other people.
Shipping motivates some of the most beautiful and cutest fanart and interesting fanworks. Like some of the most gorgeous or craziest or deepest works I’ve seen have been centered around two little characters the artist/writer has a fondness for seeing together. Beyond the enrapturement that the feelings and chemistry between two characters causes, it triggers a lot of thought and a analyzing of every single thing within a character’s makeup and how it blends, compares, and opposes others. It invites deeper thought on the potential transformations of a character’s thoughts and feelings.
It is not something to ignore and deride. It’s a powerful and passionate creative force that should be encouraged, like any autistic obsession.
The only thing is that when people make characters with the intention of shipping, they stop being as shippable. Like somebody who’s actively trying to attract someone by mimicking behaviours instead of being their most authentic and attractive self..
Not that this quote isn't wrong, but friendships between men and women are dramatically different from being friends of the same gender, and they depend entirely on the guy keeping it that way.
>Men will create stories and live lives of being desperately in love with another man
Stopped reading there, I can tell you that you're a femoid by the way in how you completely misunderstand male friendships and tates, men don't even like normal soap-opera romance trash, we want adventure, fights and violence, not this gay shit
>Men will create stories and live lives of being desperately in love with another man, but will deny it’s romance just because they don’t want to buttfrick them. >You’d open yourself to a beautiful understanding if you could realize that being in love doesn’t necessarily go hand in hand with wanting to frick. And newsflash, butt stuff is a filter for many. Girls are probably more flexible because we know it’s not gonna lead to that.
delusional fujo cope. romantic love is predicted on the assumption that sex will be on the table sooner or latter. if it ceases to be sexual, it ceases to be romantic love. also, romantic love isn't the only kind, bros can have a deep emotional bond and just remain bros. if you can't conceive of that possibility, it means you have a terminal case of coomer brain.
>This imposes on me at the outset a very tiresome bit of demolition. It has actually become necessary in our time to rebut the theory that every firm and serious friendship is really homosexual.
>The dangerous word really is here important. To say that every Friendship is consciously and explicitly homosexual would be too obviously false; the wiseacres take refuge in the less palpable charge that it is really—unconsciously, cryptically, in some Pickwickian sense—homosexual. And this, though it cannot be proved, can never of course be refuted. The fact that no positive evidence of homosexuality can be discovered in the behaviour of two Friends does not disconcert the wiseacres at all: “That”, they say gravely, “is just what we should expect.” The very lack of evidence is thus treated as evidence; the absence of smoke proves that the fire is very carefully hidden. [73]Yes—if it exists at all. But we must first prove its existence. Otherwise we are arguing like a man who should say “If there were an invisible cat in that chair, the chair would look empty; but the chair does look empty; therefore there is an invisible cat in it.”
Shippers have always been the most mentally unstable and worst part of any fandom. Vicariously living through the romance of fictional characters whose decisions you can't influence and are decided by their writers is a sign of a severe disconnect from reality. You can easily see it their behavior going back to the earliest shipping groups, they're just deranged broken people who will devour all discussion of a series and replace it with their ships if given even half a chance.
>be yurigay >have to see other yurigays cry about men talking to girls in THEIR cartoons >have to watch as they feed the trolls who call them trannies without an ounce of irony or self reflection >have to watch as they blatantly don't care about whatever show or comic the characters they ship come from >have to watch them get shocked SHOCKED as other hate them for that >Every >Fricking >Time
I love yuri, but I despise yurigays.
>Shippers have always been the most mentally unstable and worst part of any fandom
While objectively true, they also consistently produce the most and usually best OC.
Made worse by the fact that the writers basically LOVED the shipping attention, and what was once a fun, magic world adventure series just turned into 24/7 ship teasing.
For as rabid as Star Vs shipping got I actually don't recall anything other than an entire fandom wiki being dedicated to ships in the show both canon and fanon
Is there even a way to avoid deranged shippers? I think the Voltron writers admitted they deliberately didn't make any of the characters too close in order to avoid shipping wars, and look how that backfired
The Voltron writers intentionally played into every possible ship actually, like that was their MO. They didn't make any characters too close because they didn't want to make any one ship seems stronger than another, but they actively played into it.
The results speak for themselves, the fandom became nothing but utterly deranged shippers. Genuinely some of the most cancerous shipping shit I've ever seen out of a fandom and that's really saying something.
No, there isn't. Transformers is literally a series about asexual robots that was designed to sell toys to small children and it has one of the most vocal shipping fanbases relative to other fans, despite being loved by action movie addicts in the west and perverted male otaku in the East.
The less shipping comparable a series is, the more it's seen as an invitation/challenge to create ships.
Avoiding shipteasing or mentions of romance doesn't work. People will come up with their own ideas anyway. They'll have more freedom to create their ships according to their own preferences.
However, a big chunk of shippers might get a little bit discouraged if you officially set up some characters as couples (or even make them married and/or let them have kids together). Shippers tend to find established couples and their relationships boring. They often just ignore the existence of characters who are officially hooked-up and unavailable. They prefer single/unmarried characters with unresolved sexual tension and the "will they, won't they" dance. If the character is already married, the only way to ship them with someone else is NTR, but I don't think most people are into that.
>However, a big chunk of shippers might get a little bit discouraged if you officially set up some characters as couples
This doesn't do shit anymore, look at My Hero Academia fangirls, despite the gravity girl pretty much just exists to be set up as the hero's girlfriend. It's still all yaoi shipping.
>shippers might get a little bit discouraged if you officially set up some characters as couples (or even make them married and/or let them have kids together). Shippers tend to find established couples and their relationships boring. They often just ignore the existence of characters who are officially hooked-up and unavailable.
Can confirm some of my favorite media having happy married/committed couples dodge the majority of freaks but you still get the "he/she is bicurious the writers are just cowards/bigots" bullshit. I've come to believe many shows nowadays have irrational shippers on the inside poisoning the well of good writing. It can also be said that writers for 50+ years have been milking people(mostly women) with soap opera tier romance teasing and shippers are the consequence of such a age old shitty writing exploit. Think how many shows, movies, and literature are entirely dedicated to relationship baiting for years of time because it keeps consumers of such drivel on a tight leash.
Shipping motivates some of the most beautiful and cutest fanart and interesting fanworks. Like some of the most gorgeous or craziest or deepest works I’ve seen have been centered around two little characters the artist/writer has a fondness for seeing together. Beyond the enrapturement that the feelings and chemistry between two characters causes, it triggers a lot of thought and a analyzing of every single thing within a character’s makeup and how it blends, compares, and opposes others. It invites deeper thought on the potential transformations of a character’s thoughts and feelings.
It is not something to ignore and deride. It’s a powerful and passionate creative force that should be encouraged, like any autistic obsession.
The only thing is that when people make characters with the intention of shipping, they stop being as shippable. Like somebody who’s actively trying to attract someone by mimicking behaviours instead of being their most authentic and attractive self..
He's a schizo but you know he's right. I'd rather have fanart that feels like its drawn by fans rather than grifter Twitter artists trying to sell soulless slop for Patreon subscriptions.
>when people make characters with the intention of shipping, they stop being as shippable
What the hell are you talking about. That's the mentality that got us Marceline, and she's Cinemaphile's favorite AT character.
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Sincere question. I understand your feelings, I've been there before reading Naruto. I just want show recs for stuff that wasn't ruined by bad decision making.
Bit of a loaded question. The only shows I argue that didn't make mistakes are the ones that didn't have room to make any mistakes in the first place. Shows like Kid Cosmic and OTGW were finished before they even aired so they didn't really have any mistakes to make. For shows that fixed their bad decision, I'd argue Regular Show.
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I'm told over and over again that Regular Show sucks after some episode in Season 5. I haven't gotten there myself, though.
Sincere question. I understand your feelings, I've been there before reading Naruto. I just want show recs for stuff that wasn't ruined by bad decision making.
When observed. In a vacuum, friend will talk about weird shit. When in a vacuum and totally anonymous and online people are roleplaying eating each other. I don't give a shit what internet people think of fictional characters. Even when they enter the thread I can continue not giving a shit. I observe countless instances of bullshit, at worst that's all it is to me. You feeling somehow overwhelmed by something on the sidelines is a symptom of some problem you must have.
Shipping is fine if it's done casually, unfortunately some people go absolutely fricking insane with it. Take a look at how most modern fandom discourse is about shipping and how fictional relationships are used to determine someone's morals by chronically online morons.
(me)
To answer your question, it jumped the shark with Voltron. It shouldn't matter if women or gays wanted to see Kirk and Spock frick because they knew it wasn't going to be canon (especially in that time period) and didn't harrass the writers over it. Klance fangirls were fricking insane on all fronts, attacking writers and other fans for shipping things that weren't Klance and calling them pedophiles.
You know, it's weird. There was only one time in my entire life that I ever shipped two guys in a cartoon (and they weren't even humans). I never did it before or after that, all my other ships are very, very straight, and I never became so obsessed that I felt the need to threaten people if they didn't agree with me.
I can't wrap my head around how there are people living in this world that would actually become so invested with a fricking ship that they feel the need to push it on others.
See, the reason why gay ships are prone to obsessive fans isn't solely the shipping itself, it's the political implications.
Ever since Tumblr blew up and social justice became popular, a lot of fujos became convinced that they weren't just shipping 2 guys because it was hot, they were shipping it to support gay people. And if you didn't, you were homophobic.
This is why Voltron was such a disaster. It was no longer about wanting to see 2 characters frick, it was about the importance of representation and if the writers don't make their gay ship canon then it's literally hurting gay people.
The saddest part is that I’m noticing that more and more shows are altering their storylines due to shipping. It’s crazy to me that crew members will go on Twitter and start talking about all their OTPs and how they altered certain storylines or drew storyboard scenes in a way to make their ship valid.
I’m certain that Pearl x Greg was supposed to be the endgame in SU, but the fandom went ballistic over the idea of Pearl dating a man and Sugar panicked.
And the less said about whatever the hell the writers were trying to do with Peridot, the better.
To be honest. Shipping is not normal. Normal behaviour is MAYBE seeing two people and thinking they're good together or that they would be good together and ending it there. Shippers don't do that.
Shippers actively fantasize about someone else's relationship and more than that, they actively try to promote and enforce that fantasy on other people.
Its genuinely fricked that within fandoms shipping has been established as just a "thing you do"
I suspect a good chunk of them deep down want to self insert, but that behaviour is either stigmatized or just not suggested to them. And that's why they constantly act out.
Sorry for my incoherency here, i just came really hard and i'm feeling all fuzzy.
Teen Titans got pretty bad, but ATLA hands down. People are still b***hing about their ships not coming in 15 years later. Like, goddamn. Move on already
>What was the moment they went insane and jumped the shark?
I think the moment of no return was when pic related caused a controversy (somehow). When we started treating horny fangirls the same way we treat marginalized minorities, I knew there was no going back.
I remember this one huge article where a person kept going on about how harmful this story was because THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT WORK OF FICTION FOR WOMEN as if the situation were remotely fricking comparable.
I legitimately don't understand how this story stirred up such a shitstorm, given the fact that it's moral is: >Romanticizing villains can result in your brain normalizing toxic behavior, and get you hurt
I literally identify as a feminist, and I don't see the issue.
Some feminists want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to live out the most stereotypical feminine fetishes imaginable but when you point out that some of them may not be healthy they will yell that its their way to cope through trauma or something of the sort.
Although, if I have to nitpick this specific example. Darth Vader is being portrayed as the sane one here, with his tired face vs the crazed fangirl. Its just a masked moment of men cool, women crazy that pervades a lot of media.
>When we started treating horny fangirls the same way we treat marginalized minorities, I knew there was no going back.
This. Now ship wars have turned into some moral grandstanding nightmare, where fans have to argue why ships they like are progressive and righteous and will save the world while ships they dislike are evil, disgusting, and harmful. You can't just say "Eh, not my thing." or "I don't see how it would work." Now you have to argue that two unrelated characters who are in their 30s would somehow result in a predatory or incestuous relationship.
Once showrunners and crew members stop validating their behavior, unfortunately.
As soon as horny fangirls realized that bullying works and can get the crew to validate their delusions, they realized they could do that for everything and no one would push back against it. A show wrote a pairing you don't like? It's time to accuse them of bigotry and get them cancelled. I have seen showrunners apologize more than once for writing a romance that fangirls didn't like.
They still gave Shiro a random last-minute boyfriend after everyone complained that his ex-boyfriend died off screen
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But that's not pandering to the shippers. That's them half-assing an apology for saying a corpse was gay.
8 months ago
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iirc they also had to apologize for the 'bury your gays' trope.
8 months ago
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Is that a bad thing? They lied on Twitter that some randy was gay. That's like when Ken Penders lied on his forums about Rotor being gay for some random old dude.
I dont know if 'fangirls' is the only problem here. This board, among others, lost their mind and continues to lose their mind when male protagonists dont end cartoons with giant harems.
>Once showrunners and crew members stop validating their behavior, unfortunately
Take it a step further and force the showrunners and crew to stop interacting with the fanbase beyond specific in person appearances like Cons and Meet and Greets. Stop talking to c**ts on Twitter
>don't moderate properly >everything goes to shit >can't moderate now because if you do then muh freeze peach
8 months ago
Anonymous
I wish Musk would just delete it and force everyone to move to a platform that's better moderated. It's the only way I can see things getting better.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Twitter and Facebook are unironically the worst inventions mankind has ever made since the Nukes but unlike the Nukes they (or most likely their successors) actually MAY spell the doom for mankind
8 months ago
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moronic tag
it will always ever be a two sided problem. one on the companies end for not enforcing their own rules and one on the community side for not shutting down homosexuals before they get out of hand.
but this is the future you wanted. chris chan is literally the most perfect evidence that this is what you 4tards want in the world.
I wish Musk would just delete it and force everyone to move to a platform that's better moderated. It's the only way I can see things getting better.
>i wish musk, the largest and most egregious twitter homosexual, would willingly deplatform himself just to shut all the other twitter homosexuals up
you have a better chance of going to live with musk on mars as his personal onahole than him shutting down twitter
8 months ago
Anonymous
Hey, I hate Musk too. I just wish he could do one damn good thing for once and delete it.
8 months ago
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>rich person >do something good
8 months ago
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>moronic tag >it will always ever be a two sided problem
The human mind was not evolved to deal with or understand Twitter, it and Facebook have had a marked detriment on society as a whole all around the world. >on the companies end for not enforcing their own rules
Companies are about profit first, enforcing rules when you're that big are a detriment to getting as much engagement as possible. This site is the perfect example, how often have you seen blatant rule violations just allowed because they they're getting huge engagement. And when they DO crack down on violators they run the risk of homosexuals screaming about "bias" and whatabouting even going so far as to get politicians involved >on the community side for not shutting down homosexuals before they get out of hand.
When the frick has this ever worked, Cancellation has always made the Cancelled stronger
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tag >tag
i don't even know what i was trying to say here
Agreed. It’s deeply embarrassing when we learn crew members’ ships on Twitter. Either it’s canon and doesn’t need an explanation or just shut up and let the fandom ship what they like.
>When we started treating horny fangirls the same way we treat marginalized minorities
You joke but a lot of societies problems can be traced back to when white women somehow wormed their way into minority status
I was introduced to shipping, and the insanity of shipping at the same time. It was two Gaara x Rock Lee fan girls in anime club.
Very "my headcanon is THE canon" types.
>All straight ships are fine unless your that Katata/Zuko homosexual.
>Gay ships with females are shit unless it's two characters who are on opposite factions and are outright hostile to one another, resulting in hatefricking. There is beauty in watching two characters deny they are develop to have feelings for their enemy.
>Gay ships with males are vile because there's no actual romance behind it, it's just fujo fetishism.
>Overall shipping is moronic but a fun guilty pleasure once in a while, but a lot of the hate is honestly justified
>There is beauty in watching two characters deny they are develop to have feelings for their enemy.
Stop coping, you just think lesbian hatesex is hot.
>two characters who are on opposite factions and are outright hostile to one another, resulting in hatefricking
I hate this shit because nobody has the balls to take it to it's logical melodramatic end. I want the hatefricking to be so good it causes them to compromise their position and make enemies of their allies. I want the fricking to be so good that they have to suffer for it
Yes and I hate how people don't understand how effective Romeo and Juliet was/is. What's the point in having two enemies frick if there's no angst in it, why even have them be enemies in the first place if it doesn't matter
When everyone realized they could draw porn of whatever pair, trio, or group of characters you wanted to ship and it would start a chain reaction with them wanting to push that same ship
Probably became a bigger thing once social media became a thing
That's not a realistic expectation and you know it.
Also I don't think there's ever been an anime where that kind of character ever wins the MC. It's like if there were TWGOK fans expecting Dokuro to get Keima.
Has there even been big shipping drama since Voltron? I feel like you don't hear about that anymore. The only controversies in fandoms that blow up nowadays are about whitewashing and "drawing ethnic features correctly"
small effect by shippers compared to everything else but RWBY got fricked by yang/blake, the show itself is shit but it managed to get worse when the loud audience got obsessed by the idea of these two fricking. the original creator of the show who died by season 3 never intended for this, blake already had a romantic interest that was developing all the way to season 5 before they swapped him for yang.
throwing gasoline on a dumpster fire is no big deal really but the worst part of it really is how they took a dead man's show and warped it for the sake of attention. they tried to cover it up by saying it's all planned from the beginning however with the writing quality and the coherence of the story its obvious that at most they had a bare bones idea of what they wanted later seasons to be. the VA for yang is an annoying gay that not only likes the pairing but voices it to the deranged fans so she definitely played a part in forcing it from the inside.
i miss when rwby was just an american 3d cartoon imitating anime and being about fighting monsters with people with fun weapons and powers. hell, i miss when roosterteeth was a group that wanted only to create fun and decent shows, now they're just a company bent on producing slop for whatever shekels they can scrape up before RWBY eventually dies off and kills their lifeline.
i'm so tired of the arrogant aloofness on here tbh
like homie have fun
shipping is fun, create something with it
antishippers produce no content, and fandoms need a constant source of content or they stagnate and die
not talking about them, forgot that term was grabbed by them.
i'm talking about the anons on here who will shit on any shipping at all because it's cringe or whatever, and they're so very adult and mature and above all that
Shippers were always empowered by this bullshit essay that they didn't even read. More and more morons with this mentality become writers themselves and allow the shippers or the shipper mindset to write stories. The shipping dynamic meme is the epitome of shippers just treating relationships like a fetish.
Remember when Klance shippers called in bomb threats and threatened to kill everyone working on Voltron for not making the ship canon?
who is klance shippers
>called in bomb threats
you're pitiful and naive. that never happened.
>verification not required
Klance shipper hands typed this post
I know yaoi is the most interesting thing on your mind right now but I'm actually a Plance patrician you dumb homo.
>verification not required
What is this new form of Cinemaphile homosexualry? Like how does not having verify make you any less of a fricking loser?
Cope
I don't recall any bomb threats, but one DID take the script or something hostage and threatened to release it. Studio called their bluff.
Voltron shipping wars preceeds this board and most of the people who post here.
They're talking about Netflix Voltron.
Voltron in any form is still Voltron
They were always mentally unstable. Some of the first recorded fanfictions were ship fics about Kirk and Spock.
Sherlock Holmes was the first instance of stupid shippers, even at those times women with nothing to do went full moron
You could even argue that some Babylonia priestess self inserted hard enough to create an OC in some God mythos based on herself
>roastie priestess makes up Ishtar
>another writer has two giant chads rape and berate her for being such a bawd
Love it
When they started being pandered to with Korra. Since then they've been extremely entitled and act like they deserve their personal ship to be canon, like with Voltron.
Once it became clear that showrunners will alter their storylines to make ships canon “in the name of queer representation,” the ugliest of ship wars started to happen.
Say what you will about ATLA, it was clear that Kataang was planned from the beginning. Meanwhile Korrasami clearly only happened because Bryke paid too much attention to the fandom.
Korra and Young Justice seemed to be the two shows where it REALLY became noticeable to me. Holy shit those fangirls were EVERYWHERE.
Shippers have never been sane, trust me.
Can you you post the worst thing you know that has been done by shippers
IRL consequences? This probably.
One can think deeply, but still be insane.
waifuhomosexualry isn't the same as shipping.
>waifuhomosexualry isn't the same as shipping.
How is it not?
It's worse. Also he shipped her into a story he made up as well as other invented characters he made.
They made Korrasami canon
The Kyoani studio fire?
That was done by a butthurt weeb who hated Abe's "have kids" propaganda.
That was by a genuine schizo who thought Kyoani stole his dogshit generic idea
When they actually started to get pandered to, but besides that they were always mentally ill.
Was the Voltron story about some sick kid who got to see behind-the-scenes stuff on the show and shippers went nuts and threatened the kid online true? I don't watch Voltron, I don't even know what details I'm getting wrong.
Never watched Voltron either, but the story IIRC...
>Voltron fan wins a contest or something and gets to tour Voltron studio
>Fan sneaks into off-limits areas and snaps photos of spoiler content
>Fan then threatens Voltron show runners to meet her demands of making a ship canon or else she starts slowly uploading spoilers on Twitter over the course of days
I think you're confusing the "Sick kid getting threatened" part with the make a wish kid who got to see upcoming Steven Universe episodes early and post about them on Twitter
Women and gays.
But all fanfics are written by women and gays.
It was Naruto, hands down the fact that Naruto and Sasuke weren't gays for each other mindbroke so many yaoi fangirls which already no lifed cartoons, they screamed so loud about it you can still hear the echoes sometimes.
Avatar, Teen Titans, Naruto, Ben 10, that's when the disease truly set in
>Ben 10
This one gave me migraines. They literally could not stop shipping Ben and his cousin Gwen together, then in Alien Force the homosexuals constantly shipped Ben and Kevin together.
>then in Alien Force the homosexuals constantly shipped Ben and Kevin together
that was based tho
>constantly shipped Ben and Kevin together.
the ironic part is that Ben and Kevin had better chemistry with each other than either of them had with Gwen.
That's because they sucked all the personality out of Gwen so people wouldn't ship her with ben
>They literally could not stop shipping Ben and his cousin Gwen together
They being cousins was a later addition.
How the frick were they going to explain them traveling together with an old guy without them being related? Why would they even keep hanging out considering how much they pissed each other off early on? Them being stuck in a familial obligation is pretty important to the basic premise of why she's there at all.
This is the most likely reason for the change.
Anon said it was a late change though. What was the initial plan? I guess neighbors would have worked but then there's no traveling.
I never watched the show, but would something like the 2 of them being stuck with extra credit for the summer and the grandpa just being a chaperone have worked?
That's precisely why they made her his cousin
Cousins are fair game in some states, and incest is easy angst
You fricks aren't thinking back far enough
The reason the term slash even exists is literally because of Star Trek. The slash part iirc refers to the slash symbol between K/S. The first fanzines were about stuff like this. This whole pairing has its own wikipedia page because of how it impacted fandoms. Mary Sue is another term created because of Star Trek fanfic.
I fricking hate Spirk shippers.i get the appeal but I got threatened to be doxxed for saying I shipped TOS Uhura/Spock.
That cute song and her teasing him is so cute. And Nichols is a treasure.
Men will create stories and live lives of being desperately in love with another man, but will deny it’s romance just because they don’t want to buttfrick them.
You’d open yourself to a beautiful understanding if you could realize that being in love doesn’t necessarily go hand in hand with wanting to frick. And newsflash, butt stuff is a filter for many. Girls are probably more flexible because we know it’s not gonna lead to that.
If your heart aches for a man. Wouldn’t it be nice to know it and consciously see him as the special One to you? Your weakness and your strength?
But you can’t acknowledge it (because what you think is the endgame shuts you down) and because then he would think you’re weird and everyone would think you’re weird and it would all be ruined. Like two cups spinning rim to rim, swilling contents occasionally kissing but hastily swishing apart again. If you begin to pour, you’ll lose it all, because you set out no basin to catch and mix these flavors of drink.
It sucks to be a man don’t it, having to hide your heart in a labryinth. But echoes in the labryinth’s empty walls and the challenge of the maze are also part of life’s beauty
Oh god, now the fujo is projecting her yaoi fetish onto real people.
>Men will create stories and live lives of being desperately in love with another man, but will deny it’s romance just because they don’t want to buttfrick them.
People who see romance in friendship belie the fact that they've never had an actual friend.
This kind of shit doesn't even surprise me anymore.
Having to make all of their interactions with other people into special bullshit concepts is the only way they seem capable of functioning.
Honestly it wouldn't even be that bad if they'd just stop pushing those concepts on other people.
Tumblr thinks friendship means friendzone.
Very sad and true.
Women will never understand friendship.
It's a foreign concept to you.
Men want to create stories of adventure, struggle, heroism and triumph.
You want to create stories about people b***hing in their mundane relationships.
How’s your death threat doing to that 12 year old?
Damn the Man is spitting facts
Not that this quote isn't wrong, but friendships between men and women are dramatically different from being friends of the same gender, and they depend entirely on the guy keeping it that way.
I want to inflict physical harm on you for wasting my time with such a fricking disgusting rant. Now I get why Republicans hate your kind.
What never having a friend before does to a homie.
>Men will create stories and live lives of being desperately in love with another man
Stopped reading there, I can tell you that you're a femoid by the way in how you completely misunderstand male friendships and tates, men don't even like normal soap-opera romance trash, we want adventure, fights and violence, not this gay shit
>Men will create stories and live lives of being desperately in love with another man, but will deny it’s romance just because they don’t want to buttfrick them.
>You’d open yourself to a beautiful understanding if you could realize that being in love doesn’t necessarily go hand in hand with wanting to frick. And newsflash, butt stuff is a filter for many. Girls are probably more flexible because we know it’s not gonna lead to that.
delusional fujo cope. romantic love is predicted on the assumption that sex will be on the table sooner or latter. if it ceases to be sexual, it ceases to be romantic love. also, romantic love isn't the only kind, bros can have a deep emotional bond and just remain bros. if you can't conceive of that possibility, it means you have a terminal case of coomer brain.
Shouldn't you be shoehorning Ho Yay entries for every male friendship on TV Tropes?
>This imposes on me at the outset a very tiresome bit of demolition. It has actually become necessary in our time to rebut the theory that every firm and serious friendship is really homosexual.
>The dangerous word really is here important. To say that every Friendship is consciously and explicitly homosexual would be too obviously false; the wiseacres take refuge in the less palpable charge that it is really—unconsciously, cryptically, in some Pickwickian sense—homosexual. And this, though it cannot be proved, can never of course be refuted. The fact that no positive evidence of homosexuality can be discovered in the behaviour of two Friends does not disconcert the wiseacres at all: “That”, they say gravely, “is just what we should expect.” The very lack of evidence is thus treated as evidence; the absence of smoke proves that the fire is very carefully hidden. [73]Yes—if it exists at all. But we must first prove its existence. Otherwise we are arguing like a man who should say “If there were an invisible cat in that chair, the chair would look empty; but the chair does look empty; therefore there is an invisible cat in it.”
Shippers have always been the most mentally unstable and worst part of any fandom. Vicariously living through the romance of fictional characters whose decisions you can't influence and are decided by their writers is a sign of a severe disconnect from reality. You can easily see it their behavior going back to the earliest shipping groups, they're just deranged broken people who will devour all discussion of a series and replace it with their ships if given even half a chance.
yuri shippers are usually the worse ones honestly
>be yurigay
>have to see other yurigays cry about men talking to girls in THEIR cartoons
>have to watch as they feed the trolls who call them trannies without an ounce of irony or self reflection
>have to watch as they blatantly don't care about whatever show or comic the characters they ship come from
>have to watch them get shocked SHOCKED as other hate them for that
>Every
>Fricking
>Time
I love yuri, but I despise yurigays.
>yuri shippers are usually the worse ones honestly
Unironically the worst posters on Cinemaphile and they share a board with DBS and AoT generals
>Shippers have always been the most mentally unstable and worst part of any fandom
While objectively true, they also consistently produce the most and usually best OC.
Delusional artists are top tier
I didn't fallow any drama about Star vs but I heard that the fandom was boarder line insane with their ship wars
Have They done anything crazy ?
Taking over the show
Made worse by the fact that the writers basically LOVED the shipping attention, and what was once a fun, magic world adventure series just turned into 24/7 ship teasing.
For as rabid as Star Vs shipping got I actually don't recall anything other than an entire fandom wiki being dedicated to ships in the show both canon and fanon
Two people who are rivals, hate each other normally getting turned on by one another is a kino trope
Is there even a way to avoid deranged shippers? I think the Voltron writers admitted they deliberately didn't make any of the characters too close in order to avoid shipping wars, and look how that backfired
The Voltron writers intentionally played into every possible ship actually, like that was their MO. They didn't make any characters too close because they didn't want to make any one ship seems stronger than another, but they actively played into it.
The results speak for themselves, the fandom became nothing but utterly deranged shippers. Genuinely some of the most cancerous shipping shit I've ever seen out of a fandom and that's really saying something.
No, but an ugly artstyle can help
No, there isn't. Transformers is literally a series about asexual robots that was designed to sell toys to small children and it has one of the most vocal shipping fanbases relative to other fans, despite being loved by action movie addicts in the west and perverted male otaku in the East.
The less shipping comparable a series is, the more it's seen as an invitation/challenge to create ships.
Avoiding shipteasing or mentions of romance doesn't work. People will come up with their own ideas anyway. They'll have more freedom to create their ships according to their own preferences.
However, a big chunk of shippers might get a little bit discouraged if you officially set up some characters as couples (or even make them married and/or let them have kids together). Shippers tend to find established couples and their relationships boring. They often just ignore the existence of characters who are officially hooked-up and unavailable. They prefer single/unmarried characters with unresolved sexual tension and the "will they, won't they" dance. If the character is already married, the only way to ship them with someone else is NTR, but I don't think most people are into that.
>However, a big chunk of shippers might get a little bit discouraged if you officially set up some characters as couples
This doesn't do shit anymore, look at My Hero Academia fangirls, despite the gravity girl pretty much just exists to be set up as the hero's girlfriend. It's still all yaoi shipping.
>shippers might get a little bit discouraged if you officially set up some characters as couples (or even make them married and/or let them have kids together). Shippers tend to find established couples and their relationships boring. They often just ignore the existence of characters who are officially hooked-up and unavailable.
Can confirm some of my favorite media having happy married/committed couples dodge the majority of freaks but you still get the "he/she is bicurious the writers are just cowards/bigots" bullshit. I've come to believe many shows nowadays have irrational shippers on the inside poisoning the well of good writing. It can also be said that writers for 50+ years have been milking people(mostly women) with soap opera tier romance teasing and shippers are the consequence of such a age old shitty writing exploit. Think how many shows, movies, and literature are entirely dedicated to relationship baiting for years of time because it keeps consumers of such drivel on a tight leash.
Poison the ship with rape, incest or pedophilia implications. They're usually too PC for that.
>Main male character has relationships with mostly women
>The only male character he has a relationship with is his dad who is much older than him
>poison
More like enhance
Shipping motivates some of the most beautiful and cutest fanart and interesting fanworks. Like some of the most gorgeous or craziest or deepest works I’ve seen have been centered around two little characters the artist/writer has a fondness for seeing together. Beyond the enrapturement that the feelings and chemistry between two characters causes, it triggers a lot of thought and a analyzing of every single thing within a character’s makeup and how it blends, compares, and opposes others. It invites deeper thought on the potential transformations of a character’s thoughts and feelings.
It is not something to ignore and deride. It’s a powerful and passionate creative force that should be encouraged, like any autistic obsession.
The only thing is that when people make characters with the intention of shipping, they stop being as shippable. Like somebody who’s actively trying to attract someone by mimicking behaviours instead of being their most authentic and attractive self..
You're absolutely right.
>takes a silly cartoon and turns it into angsty horny art for teenage girls
>"you just don't get it, we're ENHANCING the source material"
you have problems.
Holy frick I hope this is a joke, because it's a fricking good one.
Please be joking.
I won't say that fanfic writers can't be dedicated and produce some good stuff...
But for that love of God don't take it so seriously.
Can confirm
Jack would job on the way of bedding her
He's a schizo but you know he's right. I'd rather have fanart that feels like its drawn by fans rather than grifter Twitter artists trying to sell soulless slop for Patreon subscriptions.
Post breasts
>when people make characters with the intention of shipping, they stop being as shippable
What the hell are you talking about. That's the mentality that got us Marceline, and she's Cinemaphile's favorite AT character.
And the end result is Bubbline. You don't need a degree to know what happened next.
So you'd rather never get absorbed in a show than risk the show making bad decisions?
You can only get absorbed in a show through shipping? Really?
Shows these days aren't written well enough to do so otherwise. There hasn't been a well-written show since OTGW.
No there's plenty of other reasons anon
awful reading comprehension
If the show runs with those bad decisions, then no. That's why I stopped watching Star vs.
Is there a show that never makes mistakes?
Bit of a loaded question. The only shows I argue that didn't make mistakes are the ones that didn't have room to make any mistakes in the first place. Shows like Kid Cosmic and OTGW were finished before they even aired so they didn't really have any mistakes to make. For shows that fixed their bad decision, I'd argue Regular Show.
I'm told over and over again that Regular Show sucks after some episode in Season 5. I haven't gotten there myself, though.
Sincere question. I understand your feelings, I've been there before reading Naruto. I just want show recs for stuff that wasn't ruined by bad decision making.
Some Voltron fans threatening to leak confidential information about the show if the animators dont make a certain fanship canon
When observed. In a vacuum, friend will talk about weird shit. When in a vacuum and totally anonymous and online people are roleplaying eating each other. I don't give a shit what internet people think of fictional characters. Even when they enter the thread I can continue not giving a shit. I observe countless instances of bullshit, at worst that's all it is to me. You feeling somehow overwhelmed by something on the sidelines is a symptom of some problem you must have.
Op here
I just love laughing at shizos and morons on the inyit's not a Big deal anon
Then I'm just correct. They always "jumped thr shark".
Shipping is fine if it's done casually, unfortunately some people go absolutely fricking insane with it. Take a look at how most modern fandom discourse is about shipping and how fictional relationships are used to determine someone's morals by chronically online morons.
(me)
To answer your question, it jumped the shark with Voltron. It shouldn't matter if women or gays wanted to see Kirk and Spock frick because they knew it wasn't going to be canon (especially in that time period) and didn't harrass the writers over it. Klance fangirls were fricking insane on all fronts, attacking writers and other fans for shipping things that weren't Klance and calling them pedophiles.
I love shipping. I have my favorite art and fics on my phone to calm me down when I'm stressed at work. It helps alleviate the pain of being a loser
Based. As long as you are doing it for fun and not sperging out on others, that's totally fine.
Yeah I avoid that completely. I stay in my bubble
Cinemaphile hates friendship even more than Tumblr.
Shippers that make their own fanfic universe that they recognize isn't canon are fine. The ones that DEMAND ships to be canon are fricking insane.
You know, it's weird. There was only one time in my entire life that I ever shipped two guys in a cartoon (and they weren't even humans). I never did it before or after that, all my other ships are very, very straight, and I never became so obsessed that I felt the need to threaten people if they didn't agree with me.
I can't wrap my head around how there are people living in this world that would actually become so invested with a fricking ship that they feel the need to push it on others.
What ship was it?
See, the reason why gay ships are prone to obsessive fans isn't solely the shipping itself, it's the political implications.
Ever since Tumblr blew up and social justice became popular, a lot of fujos became convinced that they weren't just shipping 2 guys because it was hot, they were shipping it to support gay people. And if you didn't, you were homophobic.
This is why Voltron was such a disaster. It was no longer about wanting to see 2 characters frick, it was about the importance of representation and if the writers don't make their gay ship canon then it's literally hurting gay people.
The saddest part is that I’m noticing that more and more shows are altering their storylines due to shipping. It’s crazy to me that crew members will go on Twitter and start talking about all their OTPs and how they altered certain storylines or drew storyboard scenes in a way to make their ship valid.
I'm fairly confident hunter/willow in the owl house only exists because hunter was being shipped with both Luz and Amity by different shippers
I’m certain that Pearl x Greg was supposed to be the endgame in SU, but the fandom went ballistic over the idea of Pearl dating a man and Sugar panicked.
And the less said about whatever the hell the writers were trying to do with Peridot, the better.
Eh, Pearl never really showed any interest in men to me. She seems to be more awkward and uncomfortable around them than women.
Yep they really hated the idea of straight Luz
Why do those people hate the idea of a bisexual girl in a straight relationship?
They feel that is being a traitor, or trying to 'fix' them having feelings for the 'wrong' gender.
I think they were all in on Lumity from the start and hated anything else if Luz/willow was anywhere near as popular they would have hated that too
To be honest. Shipping is not normal. Normal behaviour is MAYBE seeing two people and thinking they're good together or that they would be good together and ending it there. Shippers don't do that.
Shippers actively fantasize about someone else's relationship and more than that, they actively try to promote and enforce that fantasy on other people.
Its genuinely fricked that within fandoms shipping has been established as just a "thing you do"
I suspect a good chunk of them deep down want to self insert, but that behaviour is either stigmatized or just not suggested to them. And that's why they constantly act out.
Sorry for my incoherency here, i just came really hard and i'm feeling all fuzzy.
Zutara
Teen Titans got pretty bad, but ATLA hands down. People are still b***hing about their ships not coming in 15 years later. Like, goddamn. Move on already
>Avatar.
It is multi generational at this point.
>What was the moment they went insane and jumped the shark?
I think the moment of no return was when pic related caused a controversy (somehow). When we started treating horny fangirls the same way we treat marginalized minorities, I knew there was no going back.
I remember this one huge article where a person kept going on about how harmful this story was because THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT WORK OF FICTION FOR WOMEN as if the situation were remotely fricking comparable.
I legitimately don't understand how this story stirred up such a shitstorm, given the fact that it's moral is:
>Romanticizing villains can result in your brain normalizing toxic behavior, and get you hurt
I literally identify as a feminist, and I don't see the issue.
Some feminists want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to live out the most stereotypical feminine fetishes imaginable but when you point out that some of them may not be healthy they will yell that its their way to cope through trauma or something of the sort.
Although, if I have to nitpick this specific example. Darth Vader is being portrayed as the sane one here, with his tired face vs the crazed fangirl. Its just a masked moment of men cool, women crazy that pervades a lot of media.
>When we started treating horny fangirls the same way we treat marginalized minorities, I knew there was no going back.
This. Now ship wars have turned into some moral grandstanding nightmare, where fans have to argue why ships they like are progressive and righteous and will save the world while ships they dislike are evil, disgusting, and harmful. You can't just say "Eh, not my thing." or "I don't see how it would work." Now you have to argue that two unrelated characters who are in their 30s would somehow result in a predatory or incestuous relationship.
Will things ever change? I'm so tired.
Once showrunners and crew members stop validating their behavior, unfortunately.
As soon as horny fangirls realized that bullying works and can get the crew to validate their delusions, they realized they could do that for everything and no one would push back against it. A show wrote a pairing you don't like? It's time to accuse them of bigotry and get them cancelled. I have seen showrunners apologize more than once for writing a romance that fangirls didn't like.
>I have seen showrunners apologize more than once for writing a romance that fangirls didn't like.
When?
But it doesn't work. Voltron never got Klance in the end.
They still gave Shiro a random last-minute boyfriend after everyone complained that his ex-boyfriend died off screen
But that's not pandering to the shippers. That's them half-assing an apology for saying a corpse was gay.
iirc they also had to apologize for the 'bury your gays' trope.
Is that a bad thing? They lied on Twitter that some randy was gay. That's like when Ken Penders lied on his forums about Rotor being gay for some random old dude.
I dont know if 'fangirls' is the only problem here. This board, among others, lost their mind and continues to lose their mind when male protagonists dont end cartoons with giant harems.
>Once showrunners and crew members stop validating their behavior, unfortunately
Take it a step further and force the showrunners and crew to stop interacting with the fanbase beyond specific in person appearances like Cons and Meet and Greets. Stop talking to c**ts on Twitter
Twitter was a goddamn mistake.
>don't moderate properly
>everything goes to shit
>can't moderate now because if you do then muh freeze peach
I wish Musk would just delete it and force everyone to move to a platform that's better moderated. It's the only way I can see things getting better.
Twitter and Facebook are unironically the worst inventions mankind has ever made since the Nukes but unlike the Nukes they (or most likely their successors) actually MAY spell the doom for mankind
moronic tag
it will always ever be a two sided problem. one on the companies end for not enforcing their own rules and one on the community side for not shutting down homosexuals before they get out of hand.
but this is the future you wanted. chris chan is literally the most perfect evidence that this is what you 4tards want in the world.
>i wish musk, the largest and most egregious twitter homosexual, would willingly deplatform himself just to shut all the other twitter homosexuals up
you have a better chance of going to live with musk on mars as his personal onahole than him shutting down twitter
Hey, I hate Musk too. I just wish he could do one damn good thing for once and delete it.
>rich person
>do something good
>moronic tag
>it will always ever be a two sided problem
The human mind was not evolved to deal with or understand Twitter, it and Facebook have had a marked detriment on society as a whole all around the world.
>on the companies end for not enforcing their own rules
Companies are about profit first, enforcing rules when you're that big are a detriment to getting as much engagement as possible. This site is the perfect example, how often have you seen blatant rule violations just allowed because they they're getting huge engagement. And when they DO crack down on violators they run the risk of homosexuals screaming about "bias" and whatabouting even going so far as to get politicians involved
>on the community side for not shutting down homosexuals before they get out of hand.
When the frick has this ever worked, Cancellation has always made the Cancelled stronger
tag
>tag
i don't even know what i was trying to say here
Agreed. It’s deeply embarrassing when we learn crew members’ ships on Twitter. Either it’s canon and doesn’t need an explanation or just shut up and let the fandom ship what they like.
>When we started treating horny fangirls the same way we treat marginalized minorities
You joke but a lot of societies problems can be traced back to when white women somehow wormed their way into minority status
>pic related caused a controversy (somehow)
What was wrong with it?
Fangirls who have crushes on fictional bad guys thought that the comic was making fun of them.
Can't they all be three of those without Shipping Insanity?
I was introduced to shipping, and the insanity of shipping at the same time. It was two Gaara x Rock Lee fan girls in anime club.
Very "my headcanon is THE canon" types.
>Gaara x Rock Lee
They didn't try to kill each other the first time they met.
>What was the moment they went insane and jumped the shark?
South Park's Creek, ugh
Shipper haters are much more insufferable than shippers
homosexual hands typed this
Found the shipper hater
is that fricking kevin spencer?
That's kevin spencer fricking star butterfly alright
Thats cool and all, but wheres the new art?
Pay my rent for me and I could draw more
>All straight ships are fine unless your that Katata/Zuko homosexual.
>Gay ships with females are shit unless it's two characters who are on opposite factions and are outright hostile to one another, resulting in hatefricking. There is beauty in watching two characters deny they are develop to have feelings for their enemy.
>Gay ships with males are vile because there's no actual romance behind it, it's just fujo fetishism.
>Overall shipping is moronic but a fun guilty pleasure once in a while, but a lot of the hate is honestly justified
>There is beauty in watching two characters deny they are develop to have feelings for their enemy.
Stop coping, you just think lesbian hatesex is hot.
>two characters who are on opposite factions and are outright hostile to one another, resulting in hatefricking
I hate this shit because nobody has the balls to take it to it's logical melodramatic end. I want the hatefricking to be so good it causes them to compromise their position and make enemies of their allies. I want the fricking to be so good that they have to suffer for it
Isn't this Romeo and Juliet but with more angst?
Yes and I hate how people don't understand how effective Romeo and Juliet was/is. What's the point in having two enemies frick if there's no angst in it, why even have them be enemies in the first place if it doesn't matter
Right around that magical 2007-ish onward period with Avatar, Homestuck, and probably Superwholock all overlapping with the creation of tumblr.
When everyone realized they could draw porn of whatever pair, trio, or group of characters you wanted to ship and it would start a chain reaction with them wanting to push that same ship
Probably became a bigger thing once social media became a thing
What are the best shows that actually follow through with their shipping drama?
Star vs
Sad that that's a legitimate contender. God I hate that they dropped Jarco and made Starco come off like the worst pairing in the show.
Their was such an easy solution, just make Star the Jarco's unicorn.
"The Jarco's unicorn"?
Star would be their girlfriend
Star only likes Marco.
Yeah but Star amd Jackie are bi so why not?
Because I want Star to get with Janna.
The real pairing should've been Marco and Hekapoo. Given that the latter has qualities of both star and jackie while also being her own character.
Oh yeah I forgot Marco is basically a 30 year old guy stuck in a 14 year old boy
That's not a realistic expectation and you know it.
Also I don't think there's ever been an anime where that kind of character ever wins the MC. It's like if there were TWGOK fans expecting Dokuro to get Keima.
Shippers never jumped the shark because they were insane from the start.
I fricking hate humanity
Who even cares about Voltron at this point? Fandoms move on and create the same drama for another media
Has there even been big shipping drama since Voltron? I feel like you don't hear about that anymore. The only controversies in fandoms that blow up nowadays are about whitewashing and "drawing ethnic features correctly"
That's why we don't have male protagonists anymore
Or if there are male protagonists they mostly have close relationships with female characters
When the incest was too good to let go of it
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For art use e621:
stolas_(helluva_boss) octavia_(helluva_boss) rating:explicit
for fanfics:
just look up the ship or "ArturoWolff" who does a lot of stovia content on AO3 & Wattpad
small effect by shippers compared to everything else but RWBY got fricked by yang/blake, the show itself is shit but it managed to get worse when the loud audience got obsessed by the idea of these two fricking. the original creator of the show who died by season 3 never intended for this, blake already had a romantic interest that was developing all the way to season 5 before they swapped him for yang.
throwing gasoline on a dumpster fire is no big deal really but the worst part of it really is how they took a dead man's show and warped it for the sake of attention. they tried to cover it up by saying it's all planned from the beginning however with the writing quality and the coherence of the story its obvious that at most they had a bare bones idea of what they wanted later seasons to be. the VA for yang is an annoying gay that not only likes the pairing but voices it to the deranged fans so she definitely played a part in forcing it from the inside.
i miss when rwby was just an american 3d cartoon imitating anime and being about fighting monsters with people with fun weapons and powers. hell, i miss when roosterteeth was a group that wanted only to create fun and decent shows, now they're just a company bent on producing slop for whatever shekels they can scrape up before RWBY eventually dies off and kills their lifeline.
i'm so tired of the arrogant aloofness on here tbh
like homie have fun
shipping is fun, create something with it
antishippers produce no content, and fandoms need a constant source of content or they stagnate and die
moron, antishippers are the ones against pedophilia, incest and other problematic ships, they're not against shipping
not talking about them, forgot that term was grabbed by them.
i'm talking about the anons on here who will shit on any shipping at all because it's cringe or whatever, and they're so very adult and mature and above all that
For the anons who prefer straight ships, do you have any exceptions?
never any end goal ships, or anything permanent
If the straight ships suck ass or are better as friendships.
Actual rival frick relationships?
Remember when Naruto made a whole movie about its main couple getting together?
>anon is shipping shippers and the shark
Shippers were always empowered by this bullshit essay that they didn't even read. More and more morons with this mentality become writers themselves and allow the shippers or the shipper mindset to write stories. The shipping dynamic meme is the epitome of shippers just treating relationships like a fetish.
Shipping is mental illness