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Should directors be banned from using zoom?
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kino
uncanny garbage
see, this is done stylishly with 3 cuts
not a plain zoom
not a zoom
smash zoom 3x aka sam raimi style
Why would a Star Wars movie use a totally immersion-breaking shot like this?
episode 2 did it first with the clone war cause lucas wanted it to be realistic and gritty, even though everything looked like a PS2 cutscene
It looked good when it came out look up 35mm.
Attack of the Clones is not a Star Wars movie.
what?
The shaky snap zooms were also done in MOS, almost ruined the first flight sequence
this one works because the camera is also rotated during the zoom for a perfectly framed shot
Somebody post that Avengers flying truck
why lucas why
frickin lucas
the thing is he knows the rules and restricted camera movement and zoom in all his films, but he deliberately broke them on AOTC cause of saving private ryan
why lucas why
He just keep doing it bros!!
Looks like the opening to mech warrior 2 mercenaries from 1996
Soul
Dishonest filmmaking
I hate how every soldier is a clone, even those operating tanks and artillery, we shouldve seen at least some kind of human alien mixed useless army failing to give a reason why clones are used
the Republic didn't wanted to use real people against battle droids. mass prpduced meat puppet vs mass produced metal puppets.
it's pottery by Sheev
You mean like the Jedi that just got their asses kicked in the arena?
Why are the guys inside the laser tank thing wearing full body armor? Isn't that waste of resources that would be better handed out to ground stompers?
The real answer is that it's 2002 and it was much easier to do a decent looking CG trooper in full body armour than have a dozen either CG or composted in maori in it.
In universe, resources aren't a challenge and each individual clone represents a nontrivial investment of not just money but time. A few more credits on protection for the crew could be a major net benefit over time.
Same reason you see full armour inside the Death Star...
This is based because it implies that the camera crew would be on the ground and looking into the sky.
For force awakens the camera crew would be floating in the sky and looking into a dark hole?
You can look into my dark hole
No thanks u gay.
You’re the one looking.
That's impossible, no light can escape a black hole to reach my eye.
maybe they're implying its a computer game
i don't mind it here. helps sell the disorientating nature of war
The Genosis battle was based off Vietnam war footage, like how Lucas had based OT battles off WW2 footage. The drop ships are akin to Hueys and the zoom in is evocative of what Vietnam camera crews did. For Lucas the clone wars are akin to the Vietnam war in that it was the direct bridge between the supposed peaceful idyl of the republic and the ushering in of the evil empire. It doesn't make sense without context but Lucas was trying to equate his shots with historical parallels.
Abrams and other modern hacks just use it because they think le zoom is exciting artful film making.
The zoom was clearly done so you could focus on two different subjects. In TFA you already see everything in the shot, making the zoom completely pointless.
Nice trizzips. If anything it makes the alluminum falcon look slow as frick.
Kino.
Shitty cinematography and direction courtesy of israelite israelite.
it's supposed to be war footage you dumbass
I like these.
This is to show which ship you're supposed to pay attention to
>those 3 ships just appear from no where
>ok lets zoom in on the 3rd one for... reasons
looks like shit
It's the one with Padme on board you cretin
This one is good because it zooms from the foreground where the Jedi actors are to the background which is all cgi. It helps sell the scale and make it not feel like your in a room full of blue boxes.
All the zooms in this thread are better than the Star Wars shit
Fulci would like to have a word with you.
Shaky cam and zoom is the sign of either an amateur or a hack.
Zoom can be kino
Too shaky
this is definitely not kino
static and well framed shots beat the shit out of shaky cam and zoom
What video game is this from?
I think it's Battlestar Galactica?
>handheld shaky cam effect
>in space
>kino
That’s a no from me chief
BSG used it well because it was a consistent stylistic choice to ground the audience's perspective in the setting, as well as a necessity for certain shot compositions.
The Expanse would also use it extensively because there really wasn't any other way to dynamically frame combat across such long ranges.
based
>Vipers launch from the tubes while the Galactica bellyflops
>The massive vacuum as the air rushes back into the space the ship occupied
Absolute fricking kino.
>something falling out of orbit straight downwards
>kino
lol
lmao
Based moron. It's not falling out of orbit, it performed an FTL jump directly into atmosphere. Jumps in BSG don't preserve the momentum from the object's previous travel or trajectory. It does the same thing when it jumps out at the end of the webm.
The fleet is generally operating in deep space rather than in immediate proximity to stellar bodies so I don't think the show ever went too much into how maintaining or establishing orbits post-jump works.
Not a zoom, only cameras zoom. That’s a scale.
Didn't show his craziest zoom, the sniper woman in Full metal jacket which was a 70s kung fu sharp zoom
Real zoom? Kino
Digital zoom? Garbage
BSG has a lot to answer for. Making the 'track with shakycam then zoom' method popular has been a blight on the industry ever since.
it worked there because the whole series. was shot on handheld cameras, kinda like some on the field military documentary and "the panicking camera man frantically following the action" added to it.
nowadays it is used to hide bad action or cheap cgi
When did it get popular?
I watched Avatar as a kid and the zoom was something new ( at least to me) and thought that was a cool little trick
it can be kino when used correctly
I always thought it breaks the 4th wall
>Rewatching this again
>Nothing about the whole encounter even feels exciting because the camera work is basically all inside a CG program
>No part feels like they're in danger
>Only 2 tie fighters
The scene where one tie explodes and then scavengers run in to salvage stuff is good. Star Wars needed more of that like Rey making her space bread. Everything that isn't that is just the same old shit we already went through with a New Hope.
It's also the only scene where the aspect ratio changed in IMAX. As if it was shot on with IMAX cameras and not all effects work. They even put this image out to try to fool us.
1/3
2/3
You'll notice that all of the shitty zooms in this thread are shakey and zoom quickly to the new focus, either evoking the feeling of a hand cam recording or matching the zippy movements of camera on something like a gimbal pod. They immediately direct us to consider how and why such a shot is possible rather than the subject of the shot itself, because they resemble types of non-fiction footage we have seen before. Even if your suspension of disbelief prevents these questions from distracting you, or perhaps even from forming as conscious thoughts, the disturbance exists at a fundamental level that cannot be remediated even by a forgiving viewer. The slower zooms, or those presented as cuts, purposefully do not skirt too close to reality or amateur camera work because the viewer's brain does not care if a shot is unlikely or impossible to recreate, the camera is our window, not of the world we are watching. There does come a point where a shot is so creative or unnatural that it's distracting (extreme close ups, between the legs, upside-down) but even when they distract it's usually to provoke thought from the viewer. It's the sledgehammer approach to getting people to ask "why," but they will never once care about "how" as they would with all these fake found-footage shots. It might be worse because these pastiches of "real" camerawork are all in scenes that are created 100% out of CGI, making the subconscious gap even larger. It's not impossible to do CGI right, it's not impossible to do the zoom right, but the bad ones all seem to be chasing an aesthetic for the sake of it rather than accomplishing something of the director's intent.
It's like "why is there lens flare in a scene that's completely CGI?", something the Star Wars sequels were fond of doing. The filmmakers are trying to trick you into thinking that a real camera is present when nothing about the shot is real at all.
Quite.
>It's Morbin time
>Splatter appears on the screen
What did the director mean by this?
>that line delivery
holy shit
Jar Jar Abrams is such shit.
That really looks stupid when our perspective isn't someone using a videocamera and then using the zoom function like Cloverfield
Are you sure about that?
then they would just use skype, whats the point?
QRD?
dude don't want to pay for the pictures of himself on a ride
He has a good amount of flair, meanwhile the guy next to him has no pieces of flair, tells a whole story there
Isn't that a tracking shot
No. A tracking shot is on a dolly and moves left or right to follow a subject.
OPs shot is a snap zoom, the "camera"'s lens zooms in but the camera itself doesn't move.
But once it zooms in it follows the ships
OP should be banned from thinking.
It's only ok when Lucas does it.
I'd rather they ban fricking shaky cam first.
he's literally me
Why would u do such a stupid useless thing, you're not even enjoying the drinks with ur friends u just wanna get blacked out
It's fake you moron
Headshots on a big movie screen is the worst thing in the world for me. Way to waste all of that space, butthole director!
It's ironic because pic related helps show my feelings of browsing this thread
Movies are not made for technical homosexuals like you and me who know technical film stuff. Get over it.
The Quick and the Dead is filled with kino zooms. Its digital zooms you have issue with, OP.