Even without their prior history together, Emma x Kitty has major grooming undertones. It's not like Wolverine and Kitty, where it's a gruff dad/rebellious daughter sort of thing.
But actually including their prior history, it's definitely a "Emma just wants to manipulate and hurt Kitty for fun" scenario.
Murderer, manipulator and mind rapist, more than willing to do any of these to children, irredeemable crimes. The fact she currently sits on the same table as people like Storm and Nightcrawler forever taints the X-Men into the future and just makes the point that mutants really are all deviants interested only in covering for their own
She is a murderer, she frequently orders people killed, or ordered back in the Hellfire club days, she tried to raise her own assassin. And yes, Xavier and Jean are also bad people for messing around with people's brains
>she frequently orders people killed
Zero evidence of this, Wolverine is more a murderer than she could ever be
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She was trying to raise Firestar as an assassin loyal to her (mini Firestar from 1986), what do you think assassins do? What do you think she and the Hellfire Club needed/wanted a personal stealth assassin? If you want to be technical you can say it doesnt prove they've killed people before, which is a leap to make for an evil organization in the business of training assassins to move their goals, there's the on-panel reference of her saying she'd wipe Storm's mind leaving her as a vegetable, which is pretty much a telepathic equivalent and arguably worse than just straight up letting her die, because she's a cruel b***h
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Storm's crime to deserve being mentally killed? Trying to escape from the prison Frost put her and the X-Men in, which was an unprovoked trap sprung while they were just chatting with Kitty Pryde trying to recruit her
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Emma Frost at this point is literally like 19 or 20, coming out of an extremely loveless family and trying to find her way in the world, being manipulated by Sebastian Shaw, and generally just trying to protect her group from an enemy.
Every person Wolverine ever disemboweled had friends and family, Captain America gunned down a lot of enemies on Normandy beach that had worried mother's back home, are they "evil" too?
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I don't care what excuse you make, at this time period she was shown to be a ruthless cruel b***h who was acting in concert with Shaw, she was one of the Hellfire's leaders for gods sake, she had total agency over deciding to perform her despicable actions, and shaw's not the telepath so if she really was "groomed" she still had agency to be able to resist it, unlike those whose brains she alters. You can't change that with all the childhood sob stories in the world. Magneto went through the fricking holocaust as a child and even that doesn't excuse crimes
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According to her still canon flashback solo, Emma didn't even join the Hellfire Club, and as an employee rather than a member, until she was partway through college. At the earliest possible estimation you could put her at her mid-20s but that would still clash with the histories of other characters related to the Hellfire Club. If she were 19 in that panel she'd be several years younger than the O5, and be an age cohort to The New Mutants.
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>If she were 19 in that panel she'd be several years younger than the O5
You think she'd ever allow herself to be older than Jean?
>building Inhuman hunting Sentinels
Literally nothing wrong with this, Emma was put in an us or them situation and she choose her own people, she acted more admirably than most of them
Time and again Emma has been shown to be a fundamentally good person, flawed like any real character, who isn't given a fair shake by those around her despite repeatedly risking life and limb on their behalf.
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Except she wasn't put in that situation she put the X-Men in that situation mind controlling people's actions to go exactly as she wanted them to in order to give herself justification for her own actions the only activated those Sentinels after Medusa destroyed the mist which was sacrificing their own future for the mutants present which I would like to remind you the mutants had destroyed vaccines that gave people the choice of no longer being a mutant before calling genocide. And may I remind you it was probably Emma's choice to decide to go to war against the humans and then capture and destroy the mist when it was made Solid instead of going to the Inhumans when they had a device to make the mist solid and not decide to give that an end the problem.
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So in other words the Inhumans were killing mutants off, couldn't care less, and Emma took action to protect herself and her own people while the other "heroes" around her were more concerned with looking virtuous than safeguarding the race of people they're meant to protect and who have been almost entirely wiped out over the course of a few years. Wow what a villain, she practically Aunt May tier, call in Thor for this one.
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The mist was killing the mutants not Inhumans themselves and it was gone when EmmaI activated those sentinels.And it was very pretty clear in multiple comics series got the Inhumans did care about what was happening to the mutants probably more than their own governments.And how long did the X-Men plan do assault on Inhuman Island and had the device get turned missed into crystals and not tell the Inhumans about that and let other mutants died so they be ready at the point it went to Total War;. I wonder how much Emma's Mind raping people affected the X-Men decision not to tell the Inhumans about the solution to problem but instead use it and then make the situation worst. Any Inhumans have never been involved in any attempt to wipe out the mutants and no executive bad day screwing over X-Men in favor of the Inhumans which happened before the push does NOT count.
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The mist was only a problem because of the Inhumans, and the Inhumans made solving it more difficult than it needed to be because they were fine with mutants dying. Emma wasn't, and good for her.
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>and the Inhumans made solving it more difficult than it needed to be because they were fine with mutants dying.
How exactly did the Inhumans make it more difficult to deal with? The number one problem was Emma mine Powers deliberately committed actions to get both sides into a race warriort that was necessary for either of them. Are you complaining that they reacted when the city-state was getting attacked and Inhuman vs X-Men without ejaculation of war or any commentary on why they would do it. And the mutants only solution for it they came up with would have been the solution did humans would have been like wait avoid step 3 destroyed it just make it solid again because knowing Inhumans complain when Maximus was going on about doing the exact same thing he built a giant robot because he's nuts instead and they try to send him to Super space prison after that.
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I can't believe I've met the one unironic black boltigan inhuman shill on earth. They made it more difficult to deal with by reacting violently to any attempt to move or contain or remove this ridiculous poison gas that was killing off an already endangered species. Cyclops was right, and so was Emma.
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>They made it more difficult to deal with by reacting violently to any attempt to move or contain or remove this ridiculous poison gas that was killing off
Except people reacting to Emma's mind raping them exactly the way she wanted them to is not reacting violently to every attempt. And mutants are not a dangerous species because they are not a species they are genetical condition. Not to mention they needed and wanted it made into Crystal in order to make new In humans on Earth.
And that Cyclops was a fake made specifically to die.
You must know it's coming. Eventually there will be an MCU X-Men, and there will be a canon reset in the comics to align with it same as any other time we get a movie, and they'll need to do more work than normal thanks to all the Krakoa shit and probably needing to turn Wolverine black.
The timeline has not been reset once outside of battle world l but that barely counts for anything and they're not going to have Canadian Wolverine suddenly become black.
>Kitty Pryde
Who?
>Kitty Pryde
>Who?
My Slavewife.
Evo Kitty was a nice era
Didn't Emma try to abuse (non-sexually, but still) Kitty as a child? Including twisting her mind?
Yeah, so there's some solid foundation for it now. You know Kitty thinks about that from time to time when she's alone.
yeah she might want to frick Emma, but not be in a couple with her
Even without their prior history together, Emma x Kitty has major grooming undertones. It's not like Wolverine and Kitty, where it's a gruff dad/rebellious daughter sort of thing.
But actually including their prior history, it's definitely a "Emma just wants to manipulate and hurt Kitty for fun" scenario.
Emma likes to groom teenage majority religious girls
based emma
They definitely hooked up on orgy island before Nimrod fricked everything up
Emma should bully Kitty
Leni Loud
Emma trained the girls well
Does she train them to be part of Cyclops harem with her as the alpha female?
A normie friend of mine (female) told me she was sick of seeing gay couples everywhere in the media.
They're waking up, bros.
Two women eating each other out isn't gay really
Your female friend is a homosexual. Imagine not enjoying lesbian kino as a woman.
>Your female friend is a homosexual.
She's bi, actually.
Bump
No one who's supposed to be a hero should be a couple with Emma Frost because she's a terrible person and irredeemable, and Kitty should be straight
Nothing wrong with Emma
Murderer, manipulator and mind rapist, more than willing to do any of these to children, irredeemable crimes. The fact she currently sits on the same table as people like Storm and Nightcrawler forever taints the X-Men into the future and just makes the point that mutants really are all deviants interested only in covering for their own
She hasn't murdered anyone, everyone manipulates to some degree, and she's no more a mind rapist than anyone else like Jean or Xavier.
She is a murderer, she frequently orders people killed, or ordered back in the Hellfire club days, she tried to raise her own assassin. And yes, Xavier and Jean are also bad people for messing around with people's brains
>she frequently orders people killed
Zero evidence of this, Wolverine is more a murderer than she could ever be
She was trying to raise Firestar as an assassin loyal to her (mini Firestar from 1986), what do you think assassins do? What do you think she and the Hellfire Club needed/wanted a personal stealth assassin? If you want to be technical you can say it doesnt prove they've killed people before, which is a leap to make for an evil organization in the business of training assassins to move their goals, there's the on-panel reference of her saying she'd wipe Storm's mind leaving her as a vegetable, which is pretty much a telepathic equivalent and arguably worse than just straight up letting her die, because she's a cruel b***h
Storm's crime to deserve being mentally killed? Trying to escape from the prison Frost put her and the X-Men in, which was an unprovoked trap sprung while they were just chatting with Kitty Pryde trying to recruit her
Emma Frost at this point is literally like 19 or 20, coming out of an extremely loveless family and trying to find her way in the world, being manipulated by Sebastian Shaw, and generally just trying to protect her group from an enemy.
Every person Wolverine ever disemboweled had friends and family, Captain America gunned down a lot of enemies on Normandy beach that had worried mother's back home, are they "evil" too?
I don't care what excuse you make, at this time period she was shown to be a ruthless cruel b***h who was acting in concert with Shaw, she was one of the Hellfire's leaders for gods sake, she had total agency over deciding to perform her despicable actions, and shaw's not the telepath so if she really was "groomed" she still had agency to be able to resist it, unlike those whose brains she alters. You can't change that with all the childhood sob stories in the world. Magneto went through the fricking holocaust as a child and even that doesn't excuse crimes
According to her still canon flashback solo, Emma didn't even join the Hellfire Club, and as an employee rather than a member, until she was partway through college. At the earliest possible estimation you could put her at her mid-20s but that would still clash with the histories of other characters related to the Hellfire Club. If she were 19 in that panel she'd be several years younger than the O5, and be an age cohort to The New Mutants.
>If she were 19 in that panel she'd be several years younger than the O5
You think she'd ever allow herself to be older than Jean?
I will never forget engineering a race war with the Inhumans and building Inhuman hunting Sentinels. That's Emma by the way.
>building Inhuman hunting Sentinels
Literally nothing wrong with this, Emma was put in an us or them situation and she choose her own people, she acted more admirably than most of them
Time and again Emma has been shown to be a fundamentally good person, flawed like any real character, who isn't given a fair shake by those around her despite repeatedly risking life and limb on their behalf.
Except she wasn't put in that situation she put the X-Men in that situation mind controlling people's actions to go exactly as she wanted them to in order to give herself justification for her own actions the only activated those Sentinels after Medusa destroyed the mist which was sacrificing their own future for the mutants present which I would like to remind you the mutants had destroyed vaccines that gave people the choice of no longer being a mutant before calling genocide. And may I remind you it was probably Emma's choice to decide to go to war against the humans and then capture and destroy the mist when it was made Solid instead of going to the Inhumans when they had a device to make the mist solid and not decide to give that an end the problem.
So in other words the Inhumans were killing mutants off, couldn't care less, and Emma took action to protect herself and her own people while the other "heroes" around her were more concerned with looking virtuous than safeguarding the race of people they're meant to protect and who have been almost entirely wiped out over the course of a few years. Wow what a villain, she practically Aunt May tier, call in Thor for this one.
The mist was killing the mutants not Inhumans themselves and it was gone when EmmaI activated those sentinels.And it was very pretty clear in multiple comics series got the Inhumans did care about what was happening to the mutants probably more than their own governments.And how long did the X-Men plan do assault on Inhuman Island and had the device get turned missed into crystals and not tell the Inhumans about that and let other mutants died so they be ready at the point it went to Total War;. I wonder how much Emma's Mind raping people affected the X-Men decision not to tell the Inhumans about the solution to problem but instead use it and then make the situation worst. Any Inhumans have never been involved in any attempt to wipe out the mutants and no executive bad day screwing over X-Men in favor of the Inhumans which happened before the push does NOT count.
The mist was only a problem because of the Inhumans, and the Inhumans made solving it more difficult than it needed to be because they were fine with mutants dying. Emma wasn't, and good for her.
>and the Inhumans made solving it more difficult than it needed to be because they were fine with mutants dying.
How exactly did the Inhumans make it more difficult to deal with? The number one problem was Emma mine Powers deliberately committed actions to get both sides into a race warriort that was necessary for either of them. Are you complaining that they reacted when the city-state was getting attacked and Inhuman vs X-Men without ejaculation of war or any commentary on why they would do it. And the mutants only solution for it they came up with would have been the solution did humans would have been like wait avoid step 3 destroyed it just make it solid again because knowing Inhumans complain when Maximus was going on about doing the exact same thing he built a giant robot because he's nuts instead and they try to send him to Super space prison after that.
I can't believe I've met the one unironic black boltigan inhuman shill on earth. They made it more difficult to deal with by reacting violently to any attempt to move or contain or remove this ridiculous poison gas that was killing off an already endangered species. Cyclops was right, and so was Emma.
>They made it more difficult to deal with by reacting violently to any attempt to move or contain or remove this ridiculous poison gas that was killing off
Except people reacting to Emma's mind raping them exactly the way she wanted them to is not reacting violently to every attempt. And mutants are not a dangerous species because they are not a species they are genetical condition. Not to mention they needed and wanted it made into Crystal in order to make new In humans on Earth.
And that Cyclops was a fake made specifically to die.
Its obviously Jean and Emma.
Yes
They shouldn't even be friends.
After the timeline reset to accomodate the movies, yes.
>After the timeline reset to accomodate the movies
WHAT?
You must know it's coming. Eventually there will be an MCU X-Men, and there will be a canon reset in the comics to align with it same as any other time we get a movie, and they'll need to do more work than normal thanks to all the Krakoa shit and probably needing to turn Wolverine black.
The timeline has not been reset once outside of battle world l but that barely counts for anything and they're not going to have Canadian Wolverine suddenly become black.
I thought they were already
They're scissor friends, but not a full couple.