Should she have been kicked out of her friend group considering how much misery she put them through? Even Sasha considered doing that at one point.
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Should she have been kicked out of her friend group considering how much misery she put them through?
The art style is horseshit lmao
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You first beanmouth zoomer
The start and end of any entertainment that could have been taken from this garbage.
wait, I SEE DOUBLE
Man I miss this
The insane amount of memes that came out of this whole episode and it even upset some fans too if I’m not mistaken
This moment was the peak of any DTVA series. Sadly the illusion must be shattered and 3A dropped the ball hard.
go away shill troll. Some people like amphibia and NO ONE likes your e-girl p0rn fanfiction that you tell everyone amphibia is. Kys.
People only care for the girls, no Amphibia.
To the point I've seen people making comics of the lost continent with the girls instead of the Frogs who needs the most spotlight.
To be fair weren't they also complicit as they took the thing themselves as a group?
So bullyable.
Considering her actions kept their friendship intact no. Without her thoughtless actions they'd all stop being friends in the end.
I mean yeah she did put all their lives in danger and took away any way to contact their families, she is insane.
The only way it could have been better is if one or all of them were raped
>been kicked
Kicked in the chest by them maybe.
You know considering how Aldrich and Andrias were gonna destroy all of Amphibia anyway, was it really that much of a problem that Sasha had the exact same plan twice?
You don't even need to write in Aldrich you could consistently just keep Sasha evil
Honestly, it would have been WAY better if Sasha was the true villain of the series and wanted to take over amphibia. Andrias was cool, but the core was just straight up garbage. They were too cowardly.
Yes
If Anne couldn't bring herself to disown sociopath Sasha, she wasn't going to do it to Marcy either.
Her friends will be her downfall someday, won't they?
Technically yes it was.
I love the look Sasha gives Marcy as she's blabbing about all this, Sasha looks like she's ready to murder her.
She should have been made into the de facto sex toy of the group until they feel like she'd made up for her mistakes. I think that's fairly normal.
Why are Asian girls with big butts so absolutely amazing?
>The day Marcy realized she could make bank selling naked pictures of herself online
Marcy is a filthy filthy creature. Did you notice she didn't even hesitate to eat bugs?
Asians like eating bugs
It's how she makes rent as a webcomic artist
She deserved rape
What happened to Marcy, was worse than rape
But she and we deserved for her to be raped for real
Doesn’t her possession count?
Not raped enough.
That's right, they violated and tainted her mind but we deserved her pussy getting all messed up too
Maybe they do that offscreen?
There is fanfics about it right?
>Should she have been kicked out of her friend group.
I mean, it's like it matters, Marcy doesn't have agency or stuff to do in S3.
Sasha and Anne barely think of her and they just forgive her for pettiness because of thee amount of suffering she got, you know, Girl in a Refrigerator trope.
She was nothing but a goal in S3.
Some people say Marcy getting stabbed was unnecessary but I think the severity of Marcy's actions are why the stabbing happened at all, because it was the only way that Anne and Sasha would be willing to forgive her. I think what the writers were going for with Marcy getting stabbed and possessed was that if she suffers more than both of her friends combined then not forgiving Marcy would've been seen as cruel on their part.
>Some people say Marcy getting stabbed was unnecessary
Yes because Anne doesn't internalize about this moment, instead she just laughs about it with her parents meanwhile Sasha escapes the castle and everything she thinks about is Anne.
this is why people say that the stabbing was unnecessary because the show couldn't do a follow towards it and instead Marcy's situation is talked by Sasha and Anne briefly in S2:B because the show seems allergic to go deeper into it.
You didn't watch the show!!!!!!
That had nothing to do with why they "forgived" her which they didn't really. But you need to watch the show RIGHT NOW.
You really think Anne and Sasha would’ve showed any goodwill to Marcy if nothing bad ever happened to her while they were the ones who suffered?
Yes. Because I watched the show. They don't even know what the frick happened to her. Only thing they saw was her getting stabbed one time, and they never even talk about it when discussing Marcy's crimes. Anne just says that they didn't try hard enough to be good friends to an autist like Marcy. And Sasha just says it would be hard to forgive Marcy and then Anne says that Sasha should at least try because forgiveness can be worth it, and she looks at Hop Pop because that was the biggest forgiveness she ever had to do and their relationship was so worth it.
>didn't try hard enough to be good friends to an autist like marcy
Idk the words for this but maybe I mean they weren't accommodating enough or something? Like they treated Marcy like she was normal, and didn't take any special considerations and Anne thinks that they should have.
But Marcy isn’t autistic, isn’t she supposed to be a competent genius? If anything, Marcy should’ve been the one taking care of Anne and Sasha since Marcy’s the oldest and smartest of the group.
WATCH.
THE SHOW.
She is the most autistic character ever put on television and that's not an exaggeration.
>competent
No in fact one of the only things she ever does in the show is almost die and have to be saved by everybody. This happens constantly whenever she is in an episode.
>genius
Smart maybe, but I would never say genius. She is the autistic kind of "smart". It's very selective, to the point where she just straight up sees the world the incorrect way. Like how she calls things that happen in amphibia and history "worldbuilding" or how she tried to take credit for Sprig. Fricking Sprig, somehow, she thought was something she made happen.
None of that is indicative of autism, she’s just a silly naive child who’s into fantasy. She’s no more immature than Anne and Sasha are
Yes it fricking is. That's the literal definition of autism, most of the time. There are some rarer breeds of it that are slightly different but 99 times out of ten it means being super smart about one or two very specific things, being handicapped when it comes to understanding anything social, and seeing the world in a bullshit way. If you're going to post, at least be correct.
>who's into fantasy
Everyone is, but Marcy straight up thinks it's all like her books and final fantasys. She could be in a serious situation and somebody could have just died and she would still think they're in a fricking isekai. When Marcy says shit like "the worldbuilding here is amasing!!!" it might sound like a joke, but that's really how she sees it.
>no more immature than Anne or sasha
Marcy kidnapped two people and risked their lives(and possibly worse) just because she is obsessed with them. Marcy tried to TAKE CREDIT FOR SPRIG. Think about that, after kidnapping Anne which led to her suffering in filth and agony for months, being malnourished to the point of having to eat bugs every day to survive and still being skin and bones, and nearly getting killed by giant monsters or worse every single day, Marcy then went on to claim that she was the one who GAVE Anne her very best friend ever. Despite the fact that Marcy sees Sprig as nothing more than a toy. despite the fact that Sprig has absolutely nothing to do with any of this shit. Despite never having met Sprig and Sprig only having met Anne by complete chance. A low chance too.
Marcy also makes Anne commit crimes, but unlike with Sasha it's not about control and there are no reasons each time. When Marcy does it it's just because she doesn't fricking care.
Also, Marcy isn't even a little bit worried or creeped out about doing dark magic with Maddie. Like I could go on and on, but Marcy is INSANELY immature. There is no fricking comparison here, Anne and Sasha are like wise old women compared to her.
>there are no reasons each time
Obviously this goes without saying but I know you will bring it up anyway. The music box incident was the exception.
Oh, and since you didn't see the show I should probably mention that the reason why Marcy tried to take credit for Sprig was to pathetically try to get out of trouble after getting found out.
I wouldn’t say it’s pathetic, she was just trying to do damage control like most people would do in her shoes. Marcy didn’t really have any good options on the day she found out she was moving away. She had two options, and both of them were bleak. It was either accept moving away and losing her friendship with Anne and Sasha, and let’s be honest considering how neglectful they were with her they wouldn’t have bothered keeping in touch online, or send them with her to another world to have one last chance to strengthen their bond. Both options were bad for obvious reasons but she chose the lesser evil in her eyes, the fact that her experience in Amphibia was ultimately a disaster for her is beside the point.
>i wouldn't say it's pathetic
Well either you're gay or you're joking. It doesn't get more pathetic than that. Marcy was like too scared to be on her own so she kidnapped the two people(who don't even like her THAT much) who she bullied into protecting and coddling her. And then she immediately proved that she didn't even need Anne or Sasha to survive and that she was just a pathetic scared b***h who was too cowardly to even try. I don't care if I sound harsh, it is the unironic truth. And I don't even hate Marcy like you might think, I'm just calling it like it is.
>losing her firendship with anne and sasha
"friendship" more like. And if they were real friends Marcy would not have had to worry about that, because like phones and other shit. If she really believed that the freindship would end then that means that deep down she knew it was a sham and she chose not to admit it to herself. But what I think is that she was still telling ehrself that they would stay in touch, but she wanted more than that. She wanted her slave, Anne, and not just on the phone. She wanted to be able to see and touch her cute friend Sasha, and no I'm not a fry or a gay, I mean that in a completely hetero way. Like hugs and stuff.
>have one last chance to strengthen their bond
That was never Marcy's intention. even she knew that kidnapping wouldn't do that. She just wanted to trap them.
>lesser evil in her eyes
I disagree with you. I think she knew it was worse.
>Anne and Sasha are like wise old women compared to her.
True, and yet for some reason Matt thinks Marcy and Sasha looked down on Anne, which makes no sense since Marcy was like a little sister her friends had to babysit.
That makes perfect sense though. Marcy sees the world in an incorrect way, like I have already discussed. That's a thing with autism. It's not always looking down on others, but sometimes it is. Marcy looks down on Anne because she's smarter than her, and because Anne basically acts as a slave to them. Marcy unironically thinks she is better than Anne but I doubt that's something she would ever admit, especially to herself. It's not exactly a conscious thought. And "looking down on someone" doesn't always mean the same thing. Just bullying someone can count as looking down on them, I have definitely seen people use the phrase that way before. And Marcy definitely bullies Anne. And of course Sasha does too, that's like a big deal in the story.
>marcy was like a little sister
What little kids you know who don't think they're better than their older siblings?
>oldest
Isn't Sasha the oldest?
>smartest
About like architecture and biology and chess, but nothing else.
>shouldn't she be taking care of the others
Watch the show, Marcy couldn't take care of a goldfish. Marcy set herself on fire thirty times in the show, and just about fell to her death at least twenty times. And Marcy is essentially a fricking background character so those numbers are way worse than they sound.
Sasha is the strongest. Of course it's Sasha's job to take care of the others. In fact Sasha willfully chose that job. Even if Marcy was the smartest and even if she was like a couple months older, that stuff would be irrelevant.
>But Marcy isn’t autistic, isn’t she supposed to be a competent genius?
Hell fricking no. Stop looking at out of context fan content outside the show
She's smart, but she's absolutely no Jimmy Neutron.
She should have been in on the evil plot with Andrias. Like for different, maybe not as evil reasons, but still.
initially no, she didn't know the box would actually work, so I don't think it's fair to blame her for that
however she could have done more to bring the three of them back together instead of just larping and waiting for Sasha and Anne to either show up or die
and her going along with Andrias' idea of them staying and travelling to other places to keep her isekai fantasy going was moronic of her and she got off too easy
>stabbed then possessed
>got off too easy
>she didn't know it would actually work
What a bullshit "argument". The whole reason she made Anne steal the box was so that she could kidnap them.
>could have done more to brin gthe three f them together
Why would she or should she have done that? That's not her responsibility. How is it that to you the kidnapping isn't a crime but then you DO consider it a crime when the victims escape? JK I know why, because you're a e-girl p0rnagr0phy shill.
>waiting for them to die
What show did you watch?
>marcy doing adrias plan was moronic
It was autsistic, there's a slight difference.
>got off too easy
You are literally insane.
Not agreeing with that other anon, but nothing you said came off as anymore autistically hostile. Take a chill pill. It's better to say Matt isn't such a great writer as people thought he was. He wanted like two different shows at the same time when he should have just made all three girls live among frog people, that's it.
It’s kinda hilarious how by the end of this show it ends up with Sasha being the least shitty person of the trio.
Anne is just a generally all around butthole who will constantly learn moral lessons about how to be better and then by the next episode she’s breaking those same morals again. For being the “Heart” of the group she was an extremely self centered person the majority of the show, with her bullshit antics constantly fricking over those she was close to.
And then Marcy is just the overall moron who thought entrapment was the best recipe for keeping lifelong friends. Then she gets fridged for 90% of Season 3 for the honestly terrible Core plot line. So she gets the absolute bare minimum of character development to solve her issues.
Meanwhile Sasha started out as a massive c**t, kept being a massive c**t for a good 60% of the series, and then when shit finally hit the fan because of her constantly c**tery, she actually made the effort to change herself for not only her own betterment but her friends as well. It’s so crazy how Sasha genuinely might have the least screen time of the 3 girls (because of that slew of Marcy featured episodes in Season 2) but her development felt the most fleshed out.
All of them are asses.
God this show was ugly. Like that's supposed to be an emotional scene, full of impact and pathos, it has gorgeous shading and fine detail worked into everything from the color pallette on up and then you get to the character design and it looks like total dogshit and the whole fricking thing falls apart.
It’s because the main 3 characters are literally balls glued to stickman bodies.
>She is super autistic, not insane. You're insensitive.
call it whatever you want, in the end she is a dangerous maniac no matter her diagonistic
Something is wrong with the spoilers. I tried to spoiler the "ensitive" part.
Core already did the punishment for me by mindraping her for months, and she's moving abroad in a couple of weeks anyways. They didn't just go back to school like always, significant change happened between that betrayal and after the show. So it's fine, I can let it slide because of that specific situation.
Marcy confirmed best character.
She seems unhinged but aparently their like 13(?) so that would make more sense. To me they come off as much older than that but remember their just little kids makes this seem like something you would expect an autistic little girl to come up with without thinking how it would seem from other peoples perspective or understanding just how close she was to getting her friends killed had they not been lucky.
>She seems unhinged but aparently their like 13(?) so that would make more sense.
Tbf that's just a happy little accident by Disney forcing Matt to make them younger to appeal to a younger demographic, because they were originally suppose to be 16 year olds.
It makes no difference either way you drone. Learn how to fricking think.
Hostile much? I was just pointing out what Matt was going for initially, before it was changed, but explains why you originally thought they seemed older, because they were designed as such, just stated to be in middle school instead. No need to bent out of shape it.
>why (you) originally thought they were older
So you don't know what the frick is going on
Some "people" don't even know that Marcy was a bully. These "people" need to watch the actual show. I don't mean out of context cherry picked edited clips from pooptube that are only there to show her "le heckin' quirky" side. I mean the actual whole entire real show.
Sasha used charm and manipulation to bully people, Marcy just used Manipulation to bully Anne. But Marcy also had Sasha to back her up.
Like Sash, Marcy would make people(usually Anne) do things they didn't want to do, but not with physical force. They made the person do the thing themselves with mind bullying. Marcy was in on all of Sasha's shit, and we even see Marcy bullying Anne herself in the flashback to the big prank at school. And of course Marcy made her steal the music box and didn't even care that it was a crime. And Marcy had ALWAYS feigned being a helpless creature for attention and was cool with Anne and Sasha feeling like it was their responsibility to coddle her. Which is ironic because they clearly did too much coddling to Marcy as a sort of accommodation to Marcy's exaggerated condition, but meanwhile not enough accommodation for her real condition, which was autism. They didn't try to understand her autism or how they should treat her differently than other people, they were just there and kept saving her life and shit, but more or less just being in the same room as her. It's fascinating really.
Marcy would also sometimes use Anne to make Sasha do some minor shit that she didn't want to do. Marcy was of course too pussy to try this with anything major, because it's Sasha. But she did do this for minor, petty things. Like Making Sasha play nerdy tabletop games by having Anne convince her to. Anne would essentially act like her and Sasha owed Marcy their time, but like I said before it was more like they just thought they had to be there all the time, instead of actually BEING there, you know?
If they owed her anything, it would have been understanding or patience, but they never really tried that before the end of the show. They went through the motions. Which is why even though Sasha would always go the sleepovers with the lord of the rings movies and always play the nerd games with her, Marcy was always left unsatisfied and wanting more. Because Sasha was never REALLY with her. That's why she kidnapped Sasha(and to a lesser extent Anne), because she felt an unsatiable thirst for companionship that would only get more irritated each time Sasha acted uninterested despite physically being there. Marcy may have been socially handicapped but even she can tell when someone is looking on their phone with a bored expression then they're not really trying.
>to a lesser extent Anne
What I mean by this is that Anne clearly felt more bad for Marcy than Sasha did, and was a more constant companion to her and was easier to manipulate. So Marcy was less "thirsty" for Anne. Also, she liked Sasha better.
This could just be my opinion, but Marcy has very little reason to like Sasha. If she liked Sasha more I guess it could be because Sasha was a challenge for her whereas Anne already gave Marcy everything she wanted in regards to affection. Now that I think about, when Marcy told Anne that she was jealous of her social skills, part of the reason for that could be because Anne effortlessly got along better with Sasha than Marcy did.
For real bro.
Sasha is intimidating and not a pushover like Anne. Anne is basically her slave, which just makes Sasha look better in comparison. but the intimidation aspect doesn't really have to do with Anne. I think there is just a lot of things to Sasha that makes Marcy feel like she's more of a peer than Anne. Anne is like a doll to her. Raggedy Anne more like. You think Sasha underestimated Anne? Marcy, just like Andrias, was way worse.
But I have to disagree with your first point because even without the whole challenge/peer aspect there are still other things. For one, Sasha is prettier, smarter, and stronger. She might be richer. She's more, idk, premium? Oh and she's cooler. And the whole school loves her. And those were just personality/status traits. If we're including other things like actions, one very good and simple reason for Marcy to like Sasha is that Sasha is kind to her. And she protects her from bullies, ironically. And I think one of the biggest things is that Sasha claims to be Marcy's friend, so Marcy feels owed affection. But I guess that is also more of the challenge thing.
>Marcy told Anne that she was jealous of her social skills, part of the reason for that could be because Anne effortlessly got along better with Sasha than Marcy did.
I never noticed this before. Very insightful, anon.
>anne already gave marcy everything she wanted in regards to affection
Did she though? Or did Anne just try really hard but it wasn't enough, and Marcy was too embarrassed/ashamed to ask for more? Even Anne wasn't really THERE, you know what I mean? But she put a whole lot of effort into the "going through the motions" or whatever. Marcy didn't want to make herself look bad by demanding even more from Anne. Right now she can act like it's normal that, or that she doesn't know that, she is such an inconvenience to Anne. But when Anne is already clearly physically giving Marcy so much of her time, Marcy can't then ask for more. Because then you've reached a point where you're no longer pretending, you're demanding. The deal is that Marcy acts like a moron who is constantly in mortal danger and needs to be coddled constantly, and then Anne out of guilt does just that. It's an unspoken thing. But when you bring these things up it suddenly becomes real, and (you) become the butthole. I mean, you are anyway, but not if you can pretend you're not.
>exaggerated condition
What I mean by this is that even if it was 100% real at first, it still wasn't because normal people would have at least tried to get better so their friends wouldn't have to keep saving their lives constantly. And Marcy proved that she can, but she never even tried to until she physically had to. She was cool with the status quo despite the major inconvenience to her friends(mostly Anne). Intentionally choosing to never get any better when you easily could counts as an exaggeration. In fact we never see this, but I bet she probably got even worse through carelessness(and still didn't give a shit).
I'm sure the thought crossed Anne and Sasha's minds.
Marcy deserves to be a comfort woman for the frog army
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All things considered, would she have gone to Juvie? Obviously she should have, but like ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, you know?
Like, would it be too much of a hassle for them to track down the owner of the store and stuff?
Would it screw up father's new job or something?
Would they have to find some weird way to charge her for kidnapping even though they're trying to make it look like amphibia doesn't exist? (which I don't get. Why did they think they needed to "cover up" the invasion?)
Rape Marcy's ass
What if?
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kys
No, but she should have been the one to sacrifice her life instead of Ann imo.
Stop bullying Marcy!
yeah, we should start bullying Amity, bring the two shows together in our shared love of bullying
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