>show is about gay people
>mocks religion (specifically christianity
>makes lucifer a good guy
>yet woke people hate it
huh?
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>show is about gay people. >mocks religion (specifically christianity. >makes lucifer a good guy
>hell is full of gay people
>has a few banger songs
>lots of cute girls
>Adam is a chud like me
Seems based to me
Woke people hate everything not centered around themselves
I’d say it’s accidentally based.
>it’s accidentally based.
like kelly comics
>Kelly Comics
That’s more a case of “what is happening” than “accidentally based”. I like to think the latter as wokeness spilling the truth about the world through its rigid example. Like say, a comic about the importance of affirmative action because otherwise certain demographics would never even want to go to higher education, let alone have the necessary mental facilities to complete it. Frick higher education without a plan, they just want you in more debt while looking good for being “all-inclusive”
Another good example would be something like how a movie wants open borders and the villain is against it but even the movie shows why open borders is a bad idea despite the “hero’s” empty platitudes.
hell being full of gays isn't based when the show makes hell the good guys
>when the show makes hell the good guys
?
What do "woke," "wokies" and "wokeness" mean?
Nobody in the history of humanity was ever able to define that. Just assume it means "what I personally dislike" when people say that.
Umbrella term for everything connected to frankfurt shcool and general progressivist narrative.
wokies love gaslighting, it's a tactic considered legitimate and justified in their foundational works, see an example:
>I define a buzzword with more buzzwords
You are a moron
YO CAN YOU TALK LIKE A FUNCTIONAL HUMAN BEING?
It's a codeword for the my father never hit me, when he should have crowd.
He hit me with his car but okay
I hope your father hits you some more
>more
>dad can't finish the job the first time
Of course a weak father like this creates a homosexual kid
It means the whiny left and Liberals
by hysterical, projecting right wing cucks that cry about anything everything
Started as a Black person term for someone who's been 'awoken to the truth' of crazy shit like how wypipo steal melanin from black people in hospitals to use as vitamins to stay healthy.
From that it got co-opted by morons who fetishize allying with blacks because of skin color and became synonymous with black apologism.
Then it got mocked into a generic insult for any vague leftist related thing. Think of it as synonymous with chud.
>four different definitions given by four different people
looks like
has it correct
I know what it means and you just wanna see people use slurs. Hope your happy.
For right wingers woke means "whatever I don't like," similar to how "chud" means "whatever I don't like" for leftists. The blithering of whoever uses either term can be safely ignored.
Ay this point, using either one of those terms says more about the user than the use of the actual word.
And that sucks for those who want to be associated with neither.
Annoying levels of "progressivism". In practice they're just loud pussies
So Quakers?
Weaponized Narcissism
The ones who hate fun and are genuine gays that make gays cool
>DAYSJR
The songs are kinda annoying, and I have to skip them, but they seem like effort was put into them. I guess. Writing songs is hard.
The only songs I like from this show is 'Hell is forever' and the one with the Vox and Alaster.
Everything else is either cringeworthy and/or garbage.
Most of the show so far is
>person who cant/shouldn't sing, sings a song
Lucifers end song of ep 5 has The Greatest Showman energy, dragged down by the VA's fratboy douchebag child voice
The funny part is the Vox parts of his song isn't very good and Alaster ruins his parts with cringy 2020s slang. Adam despite the show doing everything in its power to make us hate him still hard carries the series so far, song included.
Adam and Lute are probably only at their worst when they have the masks on (because Vox given them to them to allow them to kill sinners easier by their will). So the twist would reveal Adam’s true personality and feelings when his mask is off in the finale. In other words “show Adam at his worst so the viewers would be forced to love him at his best”.
>The songs are kinda annoying, and I have to skip them
I'm sorry you have such shit taste, anon
>chud likes gay broadway music numbers
Yes, singing is gay. All music with vocals is gay, especially if it's men singing. Especially rock music where the men wear makeup and have long hair.
>woke people hate it
I find that really hard to believe
Just check twitter, woke people are trashing the show lmao
I don't have a twitter account so I can't verify that claim
Episode 4 definitely sparked some drama - dunno if any of the other episodes have.
They do because like in normal writing, the plot doesn't revolve around the characters being homosexual. Angel, Charlie and Vaggie's personalities dont revolve around being homosexuals, and wokes hate it.
She just borrowed names form christian/judaic demonology, Beelzebub, Satan, Belial, Lucifer and the devil are pretty much the same. I mean if she went full christian with Lucifer he would have to be accussing (meaning of satan) humans in heaven in front of God, and would have been shown as a dragon the moment he felt from heaven.
Lucifer and Satan are the same, Jesus refers to the one who fell from heaven as "Satan", the same story as Lucifer. Being exiled doesn't mean he can't visit heaven, as it is seen in the book of Job that he can in fact go and talk to God
>specially christianity
>Jesus isn't even in the show
And for a good reason, heaven dwellers in the show don't know how you end in heaven, in Christianity no one deserves heaven by actions but by accepting Jesus. Also God is not in the show (at least not the Christian one) because that would require "the representation" to be almighthy, omniscient and omnipresent, the court scene would have been with him or entirely unnecesary.
No I don't think Lucifer is the same Satan that was exiled they are different Satan's.
Yeah, totally. He also doesn't exist at all/s
That's not the point.
There's meant to be some sort of a 'Speaker of God' in the show, in rank above the shown Heaven authorities. It's yet to be shown, so the lore seems to be leaning on some sort of an Ultrakill thing - God was there, once, and then he left, leaving his angels to kind of fumble that whole Heaven stuff without his guidance.
>There's even a fcking council of angels
Gabriel Ultrakill Easter egg when
Hopefully somewhere in the next two episodes. He'd fit right in some big fight as a background blink-and-you-miss-our-screamful-pissboy thing.
isn't that basically Diablo lore? Like near identical?
And Ultrakill's, too. It even has the 'Hell is overly full' bit.
I think this is less of an absent god, and more of a sleeping god.
After all, they already mentioned Azathoth and I think I saw the depiction of Good in this setting is a cloud with a closed eye.
>Vaggie
Her entire character revolves around Charlie though.
wokies hate it because they're fricking posers I mean it's hell theres gonna be cannibalism theres gonna be rape and theres gonna be swears so if they can't take the heat then they should go to heav- oh wait I forgot they're suck down there forever!
So i looked up devil and the duck story
(Satan/devil/Lucifer are same?)
So it's a story of a boy that fires slingshot and accidentally kills a duck, and he grieves in pain.
But his sister sees it, so she starts having him do chores, and every time he questions her, why should i do it? She says, remember the duck? And he does it to keep the secret.
In the end the boy goes to his grandma, and says, i killed a duck, i'm sorry, and she says she knows, and she forgave him. She just wanted to see how long he would let his sister enslave him over the secret.
The end.
So, i think Lucifer is a reference to the boy accidentally killing a duck, and maybe the sister is like Lilith, keeping his secret at a price?
https://www.creativebiblestudy.com/the-duck.html
https://www.turnbacktogod.com/story-the-devil-and-the-duck/
>Satan/devil/Lucifer are same?
in the actual bible? nah Satan/Devil is more of a title of someone rebelling from God. The trickster snake who pranked Eve was a Satan but he is not thee Satan as there have been many Devils throughout time. Lucifer was just some mean king guy.
I probably could just look that up, but i think fair to say Satan/devil and Lucifer might be different.
I think it's assumed Lucifer BECAME (changed into?) Satan/devil.
But Lucifer is fallen angel, and Satan devil is evil, in charge of hell.
Hard to say if same or different depending sometimes i think.
Lucifer the king of the tower of babel was a satan and the fallen angel who we do not know the angelic name of is also a satan.
Well ok, that clears things up...
Religion has too many versions man, israeli, old, new, mormon, other stuff?
In Islam, Lucifer (or Iblis as he called in arabic) isn't a "fallen angel" or "king of hell" or whatever bs they made about him. He is jinn who was created before Adam (basically, the jinn were created before humanity). He used to be a worshiper of God until Adam was created. He got jealous of him and saw himself as superior to him because he was created from fire while Adam was created from clay. He got punished after he arrogantly refused an order from God and didn't repent. He was left to live a long life as test for humanity until the judgment day where he and his followers will end up in hell.
His war isn't with God, he actually fear Him. His war is with sons of Adam and he want to see as much as them end up in hell to prove his superiority over humans. He is weak and has no power over anyone unless they allow him to. His followers are legit extremely stupid because they follow someone who hates their gut.
Another thing, there's no such a thing as "fallen angels". All angels are good and incapable of committed a sin. Only humans and jinns can. Also, not all jinns are bad. Most of them are (called demons or shayatens), but there are few who are believers and worshipers of God who will also be granted heaven like humans if God will it.
>autistian
Angels fall, anon, and they literally banged our world to death.
No, they don't. Angels don't and can't commit a sin. They are created from light and all of them are good. They do punish humans when they are ordered from God. For example, Angel Gabriel (peace be upon him) was the one who punished people of Lot for their sin after he was ordered by God.
Kind of. Genie is the singular word for jinn. Aladin was a famous Arabic story to begin with. Way before Disney was a thing.
>Muslism ramblings whinning about his fanfic
There are fallen angels in the bible.
Not in the Old Testament though.
A jinn? Like a genie?
Muslims must find disney's Aladin weird as hell.
Well he did say some jinn are good which means genie from aladin was a good jinn
There are, but they don't grant wishes or anything like that. Only demons who try to trick people lie about doing so. Jinn in general do have abilities that different from humans like traveling fast from one to another, but they don't grant you anything you wish for because they are incapable of doing that.
You know what's funny, i know it's ma rated or shit.
But it's basically a toon for teens/kids, but with swearing, gore, and sex.
But it's still a basic toon.
I feel like what we are doing is like bringing some theoretical physics/quantum mechanics book to a dexters lab thread.
We are going way too deep for this basic show, does nobody see that?
I feel like somebody should see this?
It's like if you ate a meal, and some scientist came up and told you EXACTLY how much of each chemical ingredient was in the food, and EXACTLY how it would effect your fat, muscle, energy, and poop.
And i just want to eat man.
Can we eat in piece?
i don't need to know how to build a car to ride in one.
Surely someone knows what i'm saying?
I know exactly what you're saying. I just wanna chill and talk about the fun show; but these religious zealots keep coming in and arguing about their different fanfic's lores. While interesting to see how much inconsistency is in their fanfic's lores, it just doesn't feel like the discussion is worth their time.
You can take it in the same way we talk about vampires:
> Dracula wasn't actually weak to garlic in the novel
>Or was he ???
Public perception is all lore needs. Vampires are weak to garlic because it's cool. They do not sparkle in sunlight because that's lame. Christianity is no longer the cool religion. Science is far better. Simple as
Tell that to Vivi and her hard on against Christianity.
>Doesn't include the anabaptists
Sad
ooooh boy, wait till you hear about non-monotheist religions. I hears there's at least a couple.
No. Babylon is not Babel.
Babylon, Egypt, and Rome are the broken pieces of Babel.
If we are talking about the Bible, Lucifer, Satan and "The Devil" are all the same person. Satan is more of an appellation as it literally means "accuser". Also Lucifer/Satan is not the ruler of Hell as no one is in Hell yet and Satan will be imprisoned in Hell after the final judgement. Most of the ideas we have about Hell come from Dante's Inferno and some apocryphal books like The Book Of Enoch
Isn't Lucifer as an entity just a mistranslation that was just referring to Venus?
Wasn't virgin also a mistranslation from young woman?
Yeah theres like over 150 mistranslations in most bibles and even the oldest of bibles still intact aren't the same to each other.
If they had you read that in Bible school, no wonder you're a fricked up incel.
This song was really fun
> Lucifer singing "Thanks dad" as a chorus
> Luci reaching for his golden fiddle
> Alastor saying he fixed a clog, and the clog turned out to be Nifty
>Alastor being a petty b***h the moment someone above him doesn't recognize him
I hate how this show made Satan look like and Adam look like
Trying to turn good and evil upside down
Satan and Lucifer are different beings in this show
That trope has been a thing since forever and you're complaining now?
Satan hasn't been shown on-screen, and he's some sort of a buff dragon thing. Lucifer is a fallen angel, and he's thus angelic-looking.
Satan and Lucifer are entirely different individuals you fricking moron
uh source?
>trying to turn good and evil upside down
They've been doing that for hundred of years
Thousands actually.
Fake redpilled tiktok christian doesn't even know what Paradise Lost is, lmao.
Lucifer has been the good guy since King James, chud.
You act like no else on earth can watch wendigoon gay.
I'm cumming.
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>Paradise Lost is
Some homies wack fanfic just like dantes inferno and faust.
Inversion of reality.
Perversion of reality.
Distortion of reality.
The go-to demonic tricks.
Remember demons are only capable of destruction and transformation. They cannot create anything of their own.
But Luci is canonically supposed to look hot as said in the bible lol. Him being a twink isn't too far off
Demons hate it when they get trolled by God. They legit lose their minds and try to twist it back against him.
Your God has a bigger body count than any 'demon'.
By the bride of Christ???
Satan and Lucifer are completely different Angels. And Satan works for God. Go ask any fricking rabbi about Satan and Mastema.
PMS - You're a moron.
>ask any fricking rabbi
it's not about not recognizing him, he's trying to isolate charlie from someone that could support her because he's interested in being charlie's only support to manipulate her (probably to get her soul as a bargaining chip against lilith)
>against lilith
Who owns his soul.
I don't know what woke people think about this show and I don't care, but if you're telling the truth I see it as a sign that there are so many shows with gay people and that mock religion these days that it isn't enough to gain brownie points anymore.
Also, since when is making Lucifer a good guy considered a woke thing? Isn't it a typical "subversion of expectations" thing like in South Park or Veritgo Comics?
Zoomie n00bs who think they have a brand new and edgy take on Christianity don't know shit like this even exists, and homosexuals in-between only know about the Liz Hurley version:
Shit like this has been done before in some form in every generation since day dot though. Nothing new at all.
yeah but this one has clussy
Yeah, but back in its day it was risque and had 60's chicks showing their ankles or whatever the frick was the hot shit back then:
>Bosley Crowther of The New York Times called it a "pretentiously metaphorical picture" which becomes "awfully precious and monotonous and eventually ... gays out in sheer bad taste."
Kek.
>Imagine the next generation saying this, except for Hazbin Hotel
Time flies whether we like it or nkt.
I don't hate it, but the writing is below average especially in it's humor.
>OP makes a post that is low-effort
>doesn't get deleted on-sight by mods for being low-effort
huh?
Mods are asleep at the wheel, or just plain asleep
>Asking a question is low effort
come on now questions are free game!
>Show about gay people
>It takes place in hell
kek
Something's been bothering me about this show for a while and I think I've finally pin-pointed it.
Hazbin Hotel is advertised as mature, but realistically I think it would be more accurate to describe it as Juvenile and Crass.
The story takes place in Hell, but all the nasty edges or complicated angles that could have been used for a story like this have been softened and sterilized.
It earns a mature rating for its over-the-top vulgarity, but the messaging, the themes, and the content is very simple and childish.
Its big mouth
You think? Going by what I heard about it, this show is clearly satanic and you people should avoid it.
That's just all american comedy.
>Hazbin Hotel is advertised as mature
Can we see one of those advertisements?
Almost like maturity ratings are for content like violence, sex and cursing and not depth of themes. Tremendous insight there, anon. It would be wasted if we had years of crass adult comedies for reference, good thing we don't have that.
Are people that watch this show like at all just really fricking dense or is it just one guy making these "I just realized, pin-pointed, come to conclusion" posts every single thread.
agreed. It's a shame, because I do like the more somber elements of the show. The jokes are pretty bad, overall. The pilot was somehow funnier, for all its flaws.
>yet woke people hate it
But those are the only people who watch this dogshit?
Apparently the creator is a zionist for not boycotting McD's
Nobody outside twitter and this hellhole hates this series, its pretty popular on Amazon prime and for what I've seen irl and other social medias normies seem to love it
>Picrelated is the average terminally online gay Who hates the show
Aren't the palestinian boycotters supposed to be boycotting Amazon in general
Always gotta remind people that it's January and it's only popular because there's nothing else to watch right now.
>Opening
>Aka premiere
Cool, now show the rest of the numbers, I'm waiting.
>yet woke people hate it
no they dont
Op spends his day on twitter
>Does the whole "Satan is good" and hell is chill gimmick back in the 90's
They even have him sing Disney princess songs and made him gay because he is in hell
Forgot the image
These sites really need some kind of indicator when you're posting with/without an image. Like colour code the post button or something.
Yeah but the difference is that was the joke. South Park's hell was funny because it became less threatening and more mundane every time we saw it. A ton of things would depict hell with infamous historical figures or historical figures the creator personally didn't like (see: Vatican paintings of hell), but South Park literally threw every big historical figure and dead celebrity ever in there for shits and giggles.
It should also be noted that "Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company" has variations dating back to the Renaissance at least.
There's also the classic "choose your punishment/coffee breaks over" joke where Hell turning out more favorable than one would expect is the set-up and then the punchline is that it's still Hell
I'm only here to post Lute, fist bump other Lute enjoyers, and skim read anon's posts about different religion's lores and fanfics throughout history
shitson coal
The more twitter hates it, the more Cinemaphile likes it. Simple as.
I will remember always as a good time when conservatives had to decide if the next outrage was going to be the right of killing brown children at the border or getting mad at this cartoon mocking christianity
What if Stella arrived at the hotel?
>We need to rush Stolas arc
>But he cheated on his wife and ignored his daughter for so long
>Just make her a massive b***h
charlie x stella would be a nice couple
This show ruined a friend's "relationship" apparently.
>Gay guy transwomyn of power (not poc however and yes they get flack for being white and referring to themselves this way)
>Guy doesn't like toons as much, unless it's action stuff. Troony tunes goes for everything Cinemaphile hates.
>Forced him to sit through the entire Owl House. He got shit faced and confessed to me and another friend he had to force himself to laugh between episodes because he really didn't like it.
>Watched episode 6 and troony demands to know what they think of the plot so far
>"it's okay I guess"
>This was the wrong thing to say and it ended up with an argument about how troony never gets any support from him and how they share nothing in common.
>Heat of moment admits he liked him better when he was a twink instead of some stinky, muffin topped aspie twitterina.
>Leaves to go drinking. Comes back to find all his work clothes soaked in the tub with tuna and a note saying that all his video games were being sold as "punishment" for being salty.
>Apparently the cops were called last night to handle a domestic dispute in their area that ended with someone getting hit with a can of food over the dome.
I'm so glad Vivziepop brought love into this world with her amazing cartoon that I hope get's 10 more seasons.
Barely understood half of what you were describing there or what the frick is going on with these people, but still made me LMFAO.
I mean I get it, these people aren't dealing with reality in the first place so of course they can't even live by their own moronic shit.
Sorry, nursing a few drinks while I'm with a friend listening to the gay guy piss and whine about how their life is ruined over this. Apparently more happened nothing I can say but I can add that it does involve the troony going full psychopath and spending all day on their phone calling people the gay guy knew.
I warned him about dating damaged goods.
how about warning him about avoiding people he has nothing in common with?
Tried that. The dude make's terrible decisions to begin with. Even when we warn him he just goes through with it. Think he never had boundaries established when he was growing up. Never learned from bad mistakes he was supposed to and stuff.
There is no batman level answer to help this guy. He just doesn't wanna be helped.
Have you tried raping him?
Gordon. Not everything can be solved that way. You need to do actual police work.
It's almost like there's a perfectly rational earthly reason for God to hate gays, and why he would tell his followers to stone them. Human beings have enough drama to shit to deal without having to dealing with fricking gay shit melodrama too. It's almost like this happened a long time ago, in a generation far, far, away, and our ancestors figured out how to deal with this shit already.
Just like I don't know how anyone can watch that Amber Heard v Johnny Depp trial and not realise why your ancestors burned witches. Call it 'being possessed by the Devil' or call it 'narcissism' and 'psychopathy', it's all just really about b***hes using lies and sex to cause unnecessary trouble. If Amber Heard got burned at the stake everyone would be better off.
Not sure how much the cartoon can be blamed for that.
Sounds moreso like the troony is just psychologically unstable (wow, imagine that) and a deeply unpleasant to be around (second verse same as the first).
Yeah that was definitely more a straw than a load
>>yet woke people hate it
They do?
I think he means a good amount of the twitterbase got mad at something, but it will die down and everyone will forget about it in 2 weeks, and ultimately be loved by them again.
The show actually sucks.
FRICK YOU LUCIFER
Hell yeah St.Michael
There's no trannies in it so they hate it
Rape jokes in it so they hate it
Gay people in hell as people have mentioned
Too many blonde people. that's racist apparently
>the one straight white male good guy is the devil
Kinda funny tbh
There should be a scene where adam starts torturing emily as sera (her mother) watches in horror, deciding whether or not to let adam kill her daughter or killing adam herself ROTJ style
Because despite the shilling, the show is way too meh to ignore all of its obvious flaws no matter how much Viv virtue signals. Plus, the old fandom will never forget her basically tossing all the staff and voice actors who made her pilot idea fly in the first place. I mean she basically said it, without amazon there would not be a season 2 already in production which says it all.
Is there a single male demon WITHOUT a ribbon on his neck ?
Lucifer has one, he's the king, everybody does what the royalty does. Basic fashion.
Bow ties are cute, go watch some Bill Nye
yes
Some designs don't really scream " HELLSPAWN CREATURES"
Viv thought that she could make the almost universally recognized place of horror, pain ,and suffering cool and trendy and put tons of gays in it and make the father of lies daughter a homosexual and that it would just fly over with no issue. It was absolutely not intentional but hey thats how the cookie crumbles.
Is there a list of things you get from Fujo writers?
> Tall man dressed sharply
> Every relationship has a strong Top/ bottom abuser/abused dynamic
> Hot serial killers / Hot cannibals
> Mom characters / Adult women being the cause of all the problems .
> "Prince and Prince" gay couples.
Fujos are living proof of the Electra complex.
All of them want to be fricked by a hot stand in for their fathers while the 'mom' or 'mother' or 'adult women' characters are the enemies getting in the way.
Ok Freud
I cant wait for Vivzipop to frick it all up as she inevitably will
Knowing her ego? I am surprised she isn't going to do another big event for the last episode or some stupid shit.
The misconception of a being called "Lucifer" came from a mistranslation of Isaiah 14:12, where Nebuchadnezzar II is referred to as both 'morning star' and 'son of the dawn' (which I assume is/are what eventually became 'light bringer').
Is this interpretation accurate?
God doesn’t make mistakes, Lucifer:
> I did the necessary
>And maybe a bit more
>Adam had to literally brainwash himself to kill his own children more effectively at some point.
Oh great.
What gave you that idea?
Look at what Adam and Lute are wearing on their heads and recall the recent events:
>Vox, the former Televangelist, grows in power
>Exterminations somehow are far worse now and every exterminator (Adam, Lute, and co) are wearing LED masks with Vox’s technology style. Adam’s face resembles Vox’s. Lute and the other angel girls have a crossed out left eye, as Vox has a damaged eye.
>Vox affairs Angel protections, which no other overlord offers
>Vox’s technology brainwashes people, an ability that Sir Pentious also has (the character who is killed off in season 1, how suspicious)
>Lute had to put on the mask to showcase her merciless brutality in episode 6. With her personality shifting because of it.
>Adam never takes off the mask in any of the episodes so far, and he acts the most deprived and unstable out of the Extreminators. He needs assistance from others (Sera and Lute), like he’s Joe Biden.
>With her personality shifting because of it.
She hated Angel without mask just fine
It look different.
Also she was having zero problem hating them without the mask.
Vox offers Angel protection,yes, but it's just bullshit that he tries to peddle to the masses.
Have you noticed that we have three seasons and three Vees? What if each season is about taking each one out.
Vivzie said she'd like to give Vs a spinoff, so their non-revival deaths are unlikely
She didn’t say it couldn’t be a prequel.
>Vox’s left hypnotist eye is on the same left uncrossed eye of the exterminator masks.
That is so stupidly clever foreshadowing.
schizo nonsense, Vox has no connection to heaven
viz just thinks that design looks cool
Think about it. The Vees had some of their most famous prostitute performers (Angel Dust) perform symbols to honor Roo. So they are aware of the bigger picture of the world than almost any other character. And to foreshadow Eve’s possession, her Adam would have to be in a similar experience of getting “possessed” under the follower of Roo, Vox. All he needs you to do is stick the technology into your face, and your mind belongs to him. Just like eating the apple of knowledge.
I knew that little frick was evil. All living in his mum's pouch and pulling attention away from Pooh and Piglet. Frick that dude.
He needs:
> A bow tie
> Shark teeth
> Some weird colors
> Random points in the fur
Vox quite literally made up the angel protection on spot. It's just new random crap that won't work, but will absolutely sell, because he's riding the trends
Why would angels, especially these angels, source their personal protection equipment from the tainted trash offered by an overlord - a member of the race that they regularly perform ethnic cleanses against?
Especially when they are an official organization under heaven and could easily requisition assets from trustworthy sources.
You're stretching really far to make your pet theory make sense, and it simply doesn't.
Think about this. Adam is forced to kill his own children over and over again. And he must do so in larger and larger numbers with no hesitation to kill them, even if they were kids. He is also trying to escape his lingering memories of Eve. So Vox’s “apple of knowledge” is meant to take away the guilt, the awful memories, and even the grasping of reality. To make the first man pathetically weak minded and obedient to his own heavenly duties.
I hope you are trolling with this stuff because it is unbearably stupid
It’s Vivziepop, anon. It’s Vivziepop!!!!
It will be stupid! It will make you pissed! It make you lose your mind from its pure stupidity like when Lilith is revealed to be Eve in disguise and Eve is revealed to be posses by Roo.
At least with Adam and Lute, it could be a simple, depressing alcoholic parents metaphor. With Eve, IDK!!!!
The problem being the Extermination was canonically his idea to begin with
Was it? I thought it was Sena’s idea?
No. I think the real proof that the Extermination is more Adam's pet project than anything can be summed up with
"Where is Michael?"
Kicking demon ass whenever Lucifer gets out of line is literally Michael's job yet he's nowhere to be found during the exterminations. If most of heaven were in on the whole "Hell may potentially uprise and attack us" thing, he'd be the first on the scene but he's nowhere to be found because the whole thing is just Adam taking advantage of Sera's paranoia to be a sadist
Michael doesn’t give a damn about Hell. That is literally not in his role at all.
He cares about Israel.
Anon, Michael literally pummeled Satan out of the sky. If there is one angel associated with fighting the Devil, it's him
Michael is the Patron Saint of the Poor Souls in Purgatory. If any of the Angels were to care about redemption, it’d be him.
Purgetory doesn’t exist.
Yes it does.
>Where is Michael
I believe the assumption is that Adam is Michael. LDS church holds Adam and Michael as the same person, so Viv may be going off of that.
I assume it's a shared decision. Adam probably came up with the solution to Sena's problem of Hell and all that comes with it.
>Mormonism
Holy shit yes
I read thinking the same.
I'm not Mormon but I've been to their churches and participated in their services and find their myth quite bizarre and interesting, especially their eschatology which basically says only the absolute worst of the worst would remain in hell since they will go to something like the Hazbin Hotel to learn the errors of their mortal lives and when they've fully accepted righteousness, they'll be allowed into the lowest of three rungs of heaven.
It's one of the few Christian denominations that portrays the Father as pained by the plights of humanity and wants to avoid destruction by offering grace even in death.
Their other stuff, like the Father being from a planet called Kolob and he literally fricks spirit b***hes who literally give birth to literal souls which get implanted into human bodies, is coocoo bananas
>Their other stuff, like the Father being from a planet called Kolob and he literally fricks spirit b***hes who literally give birth to literal souls which get implanted into human bodies, is coocoo bananas
Frickin' hot as shit though
And if you live a good Mormon life, you get to be God of your own planet and frick spirit b***hes for all eternity. Unless you're a woman, then you get to share a God-dick with an infinite number of other spirit b***hes for all eternity and you will never have any say in anything, ever. I get why a dude would be Mormon but I don't understand why any woman would ever choose to become or choose to remain one.
When you're raised in a subservient household and/or culture it can be difficult to tear away from that part of yourself. You get brainwashed into thinking that's your only way of living. I doubt many women, if raised outside of that religion, would willingly choose that lifestyle. Especially if polygamy was/is still wildly practiced and the whole spirit b***h shit. They'd have to have a low sex drive and be ok with polyamory/ethical non-monogamy where they get no action except when their man chooses to have sex with them
>T-this was made by a fujo!!!
Vivi isn't a fujo. The show is filled with yurishit, which fujos hate. If this show was made by an actual fujo it would be ten times better.
There's only one lesbian couple and they don't even kiss on screen .
They act like sisters or close friends.
That's because they have no chemistry and are going to break up so the superior couple can reign Supreme
again, they are like sisters separated at birth.
Incest has been growing popular in recent years
They are like two people who operate on the same wavelength, fully understanding each other on a spiritual level. Charmily has charm and sovl. Chaggie is saggy and done for. Vaggie lied to Charlie and that lie got revealed in the heart of a deeply emotional moment for Charlie. Emily will do everything she can for Charlie and Emirlie will reign Supreme
Most females are asexual or lesbian. Velvette for example is a lesbo. The only straight ship was Chalastor and Vivi is trying to kill it.
Males have 0 presence except for the prostituteboy.
This is Tumblr trash, not a fujo show.
>Most females are asexual
Just like CDawgVA after taking hairloss meds
what
Velvette's a lesbian?
How do you people find out the sexuality of these characters constantly? Alastor I get because Viv has screamed from day one that he's "asexual"(lol) because she hates the idea of him being shipped with Charlie but the rest not rlly
Theres no way Charlie sees Alastor as a father figure
The yuri only exists because of fans demanding it, and it’s so shallow that it’s a non factor. You clearly haven’t watched HB.
unexpected
the scene
I think she's wearing pasties underneath the top
MODS MODS MODS
Anon... those are pasties. Get out of your bedroom and go to a kink club. Go touch ass, with consent
I'M LOSING MY MIND because there are no kink clubs close by
No events on Fet or anything? A munch you could go to? Literally nothing?
Only vague stirrings in the capital, and I don't have a car. I could learn to drive and get one but yeah I've had a problem with motivation all my life
Oof, sorry to hear that. Hope you find something that helps with motivation so you can finally start living the kinky life of your dreams
Maybe a diagnosis and stimulants will fix it, but maybe not since gray market modafinil gives me horrible heartburn. Fun times.
Getting professional help is a good place to start. There are many telehealth services that offer therapy. Even just talking to someone about what ails you can help share the load. Stimulants are good too if there's an imbalance of neurotransmitters.
I prefer utilizing YouTube videos as a substitute for therapy, because I can usually find something to supplement actually going: https://www.youtube.com/live/AiXiyLJz8-U?si=G2pbgDTv-RjzV1vS
Haven't watched that one, but the few videos of his I've watched were pretty good, and it has motivation in the title so it might apply. After a good YouTube video I'll meditate and really think about what's going on. Changing your diet to healthier options can also help your brain because you are what you eat.
Anyway, didn't mean to dump stuff, just hope you find the tiniest but if motivation to try something, because insanity and all that.
Oh I've been doing therapy for almost a year now. Moving more, cold showers, eating better. Doesn't seem to help with motivation, though, which is why I actually started suspecting something else was up. While I want to cut down my internet use, I can't seem to taper it down, even though I've tried several times for months at a time.
Ayy congrats! Sounds like you're on a good path. Motivation is a tough one, I feel it has a lot to do with environment. You're right in trying to cut internet use because, like Vox seeking control, it can kill a lot of our motivation. It's tough though cause the internet is literally a world of possibility at our fingertips.
Have you talked to your therapist about trying stimulants or medication? I can only provide supportive advice and "woo woo" ideas to try like "search for something creative that you wanna invest time in", "meditate", "change your life course onto a path that feels more in line with what your soul wants".
I struggle with motivation as well, but going after small goals helps.
My therapist can't give me anything, but currently I have diagnosis scheduled in february with a clinic and things are slow. Basically I'm at a point where all I can do is wait, keep my body and mind afloat and avoid creative hobbies because forcing them only makes me feel like shit.
Something I've noticed is modafinil is similar to methylphenidate, and half a pill of it made the regular browsing and gaming uninteresting. I mean, they are when I'm sober too, but I can't really do much else either unless it's important. Option paralysis was gone, I could do regular tasks as if they were just regular tasks. The only question is are there any meds that work without just making me dysfunctional in a different way.
>are there any meds that work without just making me dysfunctional in a different way.
Go to /adv/ ?
But i don't really think so.
it depends what side effects your ok with.
Do you want to be sleepy, thirsty, nausea, dizzy some other thing?
https://www.rxsaver.com/blog/mental-health-medication-and-common-side-effects
Sounds based to me. Imagine worshiping a israeli god as a White person haha.
The israeli God is literally superior than all white people.
furry sex with Beelzebub
>Demon
>sparkledog
>covered in sugary shit 24/24
> Her life is among drunk, drugged up people
> While covered in fur
She must smell like a nightmare .
Her pussy produces beelzejuice (the most popular liquor in hell)
I'm not a furry
All he has to do is do the enchantation and he'll be fine
>mocks religion (specifically christianity
based
It is interesting to think about sex works with demons since they have non-human bodies. Do they all have compatible genitalia? Do they have pheromones? Does being a wolf demon or whatever mean you knot?
Yes, and if not they'll make it work
Yes
Yes
>compatible genitalia
You can bet they make it work. Sinners are immoral. They can get destroyed without a care.
Imp and Hellhounds must be very "adaptable"
The show it's just ok, the main problem is the pacing and the continues need to go so hard in drama where there id no buildup and time to breathe thanks to the pacing making everything melodramatic, but it manages to be pretty unique, i am very far right but i don't mind it as it is not a show for children, they can do wathever they want
But there is a lot of sexism and rape too, so by Cinemaphiles standards that evens things out.
The gay stuff is in there for tumblr but I believe people probably would all become much weirder sexually in this version of hell. You wake up as a non-human furry in literal Hell. It's going to get a bit freaky by default
Literally "Corruption of Champions" or "Tales of Androgyny" tier, except we don't get to see all the good stuff
I want to be friends with sir pentious
Would you?
No. Would rail that furry manlet though, we would be unrecognizable after.
Sex with nun Alastor
lankiest ass motherfricker
Why did he flash Al randomly?
Didn't happen. Luci's a b***h.
The radio-demon wendigo whose living with me can't possibly be this cute!
is alastor a virgin????
Yes. But Charlie and Alastor can have their first time with each other.
Never understood his hatred for Lucifer.
>Charlie is going to someone else for help, so Alastor doesn't have a chance to make a deal or have a little fun
>he knows he can't do shit to Lucifer for various reasons: power level, Charlie getting upset, his plans getting foiled, etc.
What's not to understand?
Someone owns Alastors soul, its probably Lilith who owns his soul like how he owns homie Cats soul
That certainly is a pastability
Alastor's cute ears!
I still remember the 'are they hair? are they ears?' debates.
All the musical numbers so far were good/ great. And it's a feat given that there are 2 songs for every episod
Why are there so many stupid fanons about Michael??? He beats up Lucifer in Heaven and in debates on Israeli. Then he defends Israel. That’s it. The Arch-angel isn’t some guy who always deals with Lucifer all day. He only cares about whatever goes into his swamp, which is Israel. Whether man or angel.
While that's the accurate israeli lore. Christian and especially Catholic lore around him typically paints him as God's main general and a general "protector" figure from evil and places specific emphasis on him as the guy who fought Satan, and considering we just got a Catholicism based Saint Peter, it would make sense that that particular depiction of him is what the show would go with.
Will Sera finally join the fun?
>Charlie cucking Vaggie with Emily
boring, lame NTR wish fulfillment
>Charlie collecting angel girlfriends
real, possible, sexier
>Vaggie can't handle the energy of two autistic royals
kek
He'd be decapitated and his head will be impaled on a spike for 10 seconds for all of Amazon to see to piss him off
Will he be in the last episode?
Anyone else annoyed by how obviously evil Adam is and the angels are just like "lol, we did not know"? The guy is a massive butthole and they just realized it now? Hes been in heaven for more than 2000 years and no one stopped and said: wait a second, did Adam just kick that puppy? It makes no sense to me.
butthole doesn't equate to genocidal maniac
Just because someone's an butthole doesn't mean they commit mass murder. Angels probably don't give 2 shits about hell, they wouldn't exactly have any way of being aware of what he's doing
"I never made a single mistake in my life"
--Adam
>Hes been in heaven for more than 2000 years
4854 years is more than 2000 years, yeah.
It makes me slightly respect Viv more, Because the despite the fact that she and me probably wouldn't have overlapping political views if we lived in the same country and were facing the same issues, She clearly does not seem to be a blatant 'political panderer' and a phony. And will make stuff she wants, Even if it offends people on her 'own side'.
Just look at the 'heaven' depicted on her show, Everyone here basically expected her to depict all the Angels and 'winners' in heaven as 'evil chud bigots who need to be killed by the trans girlboss demons' or some other politics-brained word-soup meme. And some of us were pleasantly surprised when she didn't do that. Because it would have such EASY 'pandering' to do that.
Now on twitter, People more towards 'Viv's side' of politics are angry at her because she's not making the israeli desert people in heaven who appeared in the israeli desert adventure book look like enough of a hook nosed wog or smth kek.
And other demented autism about how she should have cancelled her entire show which she spent years working on because of a war in a third-party country which she has nothing to gain or lose from.
>And other demented autism about how she should have cancelled her entire show which she spent years working on because of a war in a third-party country which she has nothing to gain or lose from.
Honestly tiring how polarizing the internet has become. I wouldn't give much of a shit about it but it also heavily infected some of the boards here.
Viv only cares about a few things that I've noticed
1. Everything needs a song no matter how forced it feels
2. She MUST have her broadways stars, even if they can't act
3. She needs to placate her Fujoshi fetish by making everyone gay or bi.
>>2. She MUST have her broadways stars, even if they can't act
who can't act?
Honestly the only one who's been faltering is Vaggie's VA. People are still hung up over Michael and Alastor's original VA but I think Roman Blake proved he earned the role in episode 4.
>Vaggie's VA
yeah she sounds like a man
original was way bettter
rest of the cast is definitely better than the pilot, which really doesn't hold up that well
>yeah she sounds like a man
She sounds like a woman with a moderately deep voice.
nah just sounds like a man, and not in the trans way but just a man
The Pilot VA was miles better. The Brooklyn Nine Nine actress playing Vaggie now is phoning it in. I don't know if she just doesn't care about the show or the voice direction she was given is terrible
People have said it before but even Vaggie's VA seems to be a case of poor direction. She's Mirabel in Encanto among other things
Her being Mirabel is not a positive.
Wasn’t Peter the guy who wanted to be crucified upside down?
I'm no leftist, but I still thought it was an odd choice to have Peter be portrayed straight out of a NSDAP poster book for the Ideal Aryan Male.
But I was also disappointed they had the seraphs morph from their bird-faces into humans with wings. If you're going to commit with featuring galgalim of all things, why humanize the seraphs?
>Vox and Velvette returning to work after a night with Alastor and Carmilla respectively
Is Adam banging his very distant progeny ?
Is Adam killing his own family ?
If Adam is banging Lute then i don't think so, Because Vaggie [and i guess Lute?] apparently bleed green when their cut i don't think their actually even like 'humans who became Angels' or exist in relation to humans at all, But are basically like Vat-grown clone-troopers.
So regarding Adam - there's a piece called The Harrowing of Hell. It depicts Jesus coming down to Hell after his crucifixion to take the most worthy sinners with him back to Heaven, Adam included. What are the chances Vivzie will use that as a plot point?
The problem is that would imply Jesus
The 'Hells greatest Dad' song [Lucifer/Alastor duet] song from Episode 5, Uploaded to Amazon Prime's YouTube channel has passed 2.5Million views in just over 24 hours, And is currently the 7th highest trending video on YouTube as of the time of this post.
Too bad Mimzy ruins it.
>Mimzy
Vivzie stand-in, I'd guess
I thought that was Nifty.
She's female Mineta.
Mimzy is one of Viv's older characters from before she got fat, so I doubt it.
She was originally Alastor's girlfriend before Viv decided to make him Asexual
Wait for You Didn't Know to be officially released on the channel. Easily the best track with Hell's Greatest Dad in second place.
where are the gay birds taking up all the screentime?
The sudden drop-off in the amount of swearing has actually convinced me that someone finally put their foot down somewhere and told Viv to cut it with YaoiFujoShittery and endless swear words.
give sauce fricker
I unfortunately myself don't know, I saved it from here, I WISH i had asked the first anon who posted it what it's from, Same with this one.
frick
i wanna frick the psychotic cyclops and have her bite my wiener off at the end
Charlie LOVES her dad.
Has this show answered the question of what happens to exterminated sinners yet?
they die
And where do they go?
I don't think anyone has considered the magnitude of this question.
If exterminated sinners are dead, as in, gone to the eternal void of non-existence dead, then that completely breaks down the entire point of hell.
Hell is supposed to be eternal damnation, as in, you will suffer forever, for all eternity, never receiving any peace in your afterlife.
If extermination acts as a free way out of that eternal damnation, then why wouldnt a large majority of sinners take it as the free out it is?
Don't tell me sinners would rather suffer in eternal damnation, because that's moronic.
hell is just an unwanted trash heap they have to clense
So in vivs version of heaven and hell...hell is something that was never meant to exist and heaven resents it so much that they would rather free sinners from eternal damnation than allow it to serve its purpose?
Where exactly is god in all this? Does vivs version of heaven even have an active God? or did he just up and frick off?
seems like it but maybe god or the god equivlent will have an answer in a later season
Viv's hell is basically just another earth but with magic. Its the sinners who bring the hell with them.
>Don't tell me sinners would rather suffer in eternal damnation, because that's moronic.
Hell isn't eternal damnation in this show, sinners are dumped in Pride and are given free reign to go nuts.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was because of how short the season is.
>Hell isn't eternal damnation in this show, sinners are dumped in Pride and are given free reign to go nuts.
Oh, well disregard
then, I guess viv just wants her cake and to eat it as well.
so why did they do right into it without redoing the prologue? surely most of the audience has not seen it
I mean, at this point the pilot is the prologue and is worth a watch, but the show works "alright" without watching it. I'd wager more than enough people have seen it already and many more new viewers will take the time to watch it if they're interested enough
Woke people hate it?
The show seems extremely hypocritical with its constant handwaiving of Alastor's awful acts when they arent even needed. Charlie could have called her dad for support at any point and yet she continues to rely on a sadistic soul devourer.
Adam and Lute are perhaps the clearest example of actual villains in the series (Valentino is a bit out of focus at the moment). so they should definitely be given a shot at redemption right Charlie? Right?
>The show seems extremely hypocritical with its constant handwaiving of Alastor's awful acts when they arent even needed.
The problems are the tone and pacing are so off that it becomes really noticeable and quite distracting. All the ideas are there for this to be a solid tv show, but pacing is so bad it becomes like a 6/10 show.
Yeah, Viv should really have pushed for longer seasons. We definitely needed episodes centering Angel Dust's improvement, plus what landed him in hell in the first place, Charlie and why she became estranged from her dad, Alastor and why he now seems to believe in the hotel, out of the blue. And generally, why Hell is so fricking awful. The whole show rests on hell being hell and yet it just seems like a quirky american city. Hell, some sinners seems to be having a grand time there. Where is the misery? Where is the hopelessness? Why is hell even bad other than sinners being buttholes?
She got a second season so that might help things out. Yet its pretty clear she didn't find out until towards the end of production it was greenlit. In other words she had no clue she'd get a second season and she rushed to cram everything in.
Or, she knew from the beginning she was getting a second season, yet because Viv likes to add new concepts and ideas to everything any chance she gets, she fricked the pacing up.
The first option is really depressing. Either tell your story in a shitty way or not tell it at all.
I guess, we still got some banger songs even if everything else is shallow and undercooked.
>make a series based on an already popular thing
>skip the entire story so you can force every single character into it for merchandising and to not make any of the obsessives feel left out because bingus dingus wasn't in it
They skipped MONTHS of extremely important character development between two fricking episodes, how is this okay with them???
What if they will switch places?
>("T...Their all ignoring me?...Talking over me?...Well...Maybe i should start swearing like a sailor as well!?")
>"Listen here homosexualS!"
Maybe he should get over himself
Dr. Suess character looking ass.
>He swore
that would be a genuinely funny moment
wonder if the show would have been better if it didn't take 15 years for it to start
also really doesn't feel like the same world a hellva boss
the priorities are too different
Its funny because Helluva Boss was supposed to have a much smaller scale and yet they have interacted with several big bads in hell while Hazbin Hotel, the main show, seems much more constrained power wise.
what if the real hell was hell all along?
>The next door neighbour to the Hazbin Hotel.
What happens?
He genuinely doesn't care, stays in and watches TV. If they exterminate him, they exterminate him. It don't matter
Charlie would probably be the most pleasant neighbor he ever had. Not that he would care.
He has a good view of Charlie's room especially when Emily and Vaggie sleepover, he'll be fine
>Charlie/Vaggie
Probably gets along absolutely fine with Charlie and Vaggie because their not insane. - If it was just them they'd probably be the best neighbours he could have.
>Niffty
Probably talks to Niffty in the same way he talks to meatwad [i.e. Like a moronic child who he's kinda annoyed at but knows it isn't their fault]
>Pentious
He'd bully Pentious once and he'd look at the floor every time they saw each other after that and never annoy him again.
>Husk
Probably just ignore each other.
>Alastor
>*See's Alastor walking over to his house and flicks all the lights off / locks door and hides behind couch*
>*Alastor tapping on window* "Carl? Carl? Are you home in there chum?"
>("Dear god...go away...Just go away...You fricking monster....dear go-")
>*Alastor teleports next to him in living room*
>"Hello Carl!"
>*exasperated sigh* "Hello...What do you want?"
>Angel Dust
>*Uses Carl's pool without permission*
>"Ok hey...What's going on here Spider...Your doing some sort of outdoors gay-out?...In my pool?"
>"Yes? Isn't that clear?"
>"Isn't it clear that im going to absolutely frick. your. ass. up. if you don't move out of my pool and get over the property line?"
>"Well i guess you can 'Frick. My. Ass. Up.' If you really want to carl..."
>"..."
>*Episode where Carl feeds shake to the Piranhas in the pool*
Angel dust taking the place of shake fits to well
Cultist end up summoning Charlie to earth.
What would happen?
she find verbalase and frick hard
What if he tries to hide
theres no hiding from a horny clown
Missionary sex
So, how much of a chance do Adam and Lute have to survive the season finale?
Lute is confirmed to survive because Viv talked to the VA about her planned arc in season 2.
I genuinely hope they don't redeem her in the area of making her besties with the cast
Lute lovers keep winning
Making hundreds of Nephilim/Titan children with Lute after she's punished for being such a sadist by being thrown to earth, And helping her plot her revenge upon the heavens.
Being a good Christian boy and waiting till marriage for us to have loving missionary sex with the sole purpose of procreation
Lute is for Adam to realize that not all women are bad
Her planned arc of becoming lesbians with Cherri Bomb most likely.
>Cherri Bomb
Eww. Cherri Bomb looks like anthropomorphized herpes.
>Cherri Bomb
No pretty sure she get's snake.
>He doesn't know.
What if the arc is about Adam leaving behind his exterminator role and Lute trying to get used to her new way of life with Adam.
Them having to join the hotel as a condition to rejoin heaven would be peak. But of course all the twittertards would complain about the 'problematic' characters getting redeemed.
>antagonists to allies arc
Please let Viv's innate latino love for DBZ win out on this one.
Twitter doesn't seem to know what they want regarding redemption, do they? If the person isn't problematic, then there's NOTHING TO REDEEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Only approved transgressions are allowed to be redeemed, like murder. Misogynists shall themselves be unceremoniously murdered.
>Misogynists shall themselves be unceremoniously murdered.
This literally doesn’t make sense with Adam since he is more respectful to respectable women than any of the sinners are.
What if Niffty is killing off Vox because Vox attempted to kill Alastor and and co. with his brainwashed “minions”, Adam and the exterminators.
So thematically and arc-wise, Alastor and Sir Pentious tramples over the most respected overlord in hell, Vox.
God I wish Twitter will be obliterated but I doubt it will fix everything in the world, but it just seems that every "no fun allowed decision", every outrage, every "must follow these creeds or else" decrees they come from Twitter. How does anyone even make their own media without the fear of being attacked for every transgression if one even dares to show it? No wonder a lot of Gen Z approves of government surveillance. Please prove me wrong, necause every day it seems like everything is becoming less fun and that suicide is the best option.
Nah. It’s lamer and sadder. Like Adam for some reason just goes to the wilderness of Heaven to reenact Adam and Eve, still struggling to move on, with Lute being unimpressed and losing interest because of how much she prefers and enjoys violence.
If I had no knowledge of spoilers, I'd believe they would be defeated but survive. Their punishment would be being humbled in some way, like being stripped of rank or even banished. Apparently Adam just dies though, which is a bad move if true imo.
>Adam just dies though, which is a bad move if true imo.
Adam is one of the funniest things in the show. And this is a show about redemption. Kinda sucks.
I'm hoping that, being a human soul, he "dies" but just respawns like the sinners do. That would be kind of funny. Him dying forever would be lame.
It's interesting too. As much as people on this board love Lute, she doesn't have much screen presence without Adam to bounce off of as the straight man to.
> she doesn't have much screen presence without Adam
While the two are clearly a pair, not romantically but character wise. Lute has a clear personality distinct from Adam. She is the archetypal zealot who is motivated by hatred. She clearly has a bone to pick with demons and doesnt kid around. She uses the harshest language out of anybody when speaking about sinners. It is interesting that she not only puts up with Adam but actively takes part in his playful buttholery.
I think it would be nice if they were the catalyst for each other's redemption. He teaches her to ease up and maybe be less hateful in general and she makes him take things a bit more seriously, and perhaps curve his misogyny a bit.
>I think it would be nice if they were the catalyst for each other's redemption. He teaches her to ease up and maybe be less hateful in general and she makes him take things a bit more seriously, and perhaps curve his misogyny a bit.
I'm hoping they surprise me with something like this. Adam and Lute have 2 of the strongest characterizations in the show, and they're just plain fun to watch together. I'm expecting the worst though.
Yeah much as it sucks I'm pretty sure Adam is going to die, unfortunately, but frick I hope it doesn't happen
I don’t know about that. When I investigated season 1, I honestly believe that Vox is the true antagonist who will be killed off.
There was apparently spoilers dropped or some shit?
About Vox appearing in the new two episodes.
If you look at the mask Adam and Lite are wearing, they have a Vox vibe going on them. Plus, Vox and the the killed off Sir Pentious in season 1 have the same powerful abilities of hypnosis that has yet to be paid off in this season.
Dude. If Vox can't fricking handle Alastor, why the hell do you think he'd be able to somehow control the extermination?
The exterminators are basically always wearing Vox’s buckets, like King Poseidon and the Bikini Bottom citizens in the spongebob movie. Vox himself is the weakest V member, so he needs to have the strongest minions to control to have a shot at killing Alastor. It also means he is the most fitting true mastermind antagonist for season 1.
>she doesn't have much screen presence
She could command so much respect, we just tend to focus on her and Adam's dynamic because you're right that it works very well.
She cut right into Charlie during their first meeting; she was the first to sing in her and Adam's duet during the court hearing; she could be terrifying on her own but characters work best when bouncing off each other
I think Lute without Adam would be a terror. She's the more fanatically anti-sinner of the two. I think she can carry the antagonist role solo, and is probably more dangerous alone than with Adam to keep her in check with his carefree levity. I wouldn't want their separation to be permanent though, just enough to explore the idea of Lute on her own. They're way too good as a pair.
>She's the more fanatically anti-sinner of the two.
In other words, she's a good Angel and that's bad apparently.
Anon, I mean screen presence. On her own, Lute is a competent and stoic soldier through and through, this is why you can't keep her separate from Adam too long, without him she just becomes a generic stoic villain and without her he becomes a generic butthole villain. The two were clearly designed to bounce off of one another
She's gonna go full psychopath when Adam goes kaput, I'm scared-horny.Don't die Adam
I really hope he doesn't "die" but his name dies as he gets kicked down to hell and has to call himself a different name or hell just hope the leak is wrong. Its such a waste of a character, and Lute being pissed off enough to be the major villain should be more than because he dies but because in her eyes they are defiling him with bad ideas like forgiveness and redemption via Charlie's bleeding heart. Also would fit better because let's face it, her mom probably is the true villain and essentially screwed both Adam and Lucifer. I'm surprised Viv may go this route.
>mocks religion (specifically christianity
I've actually learned more about Christianity just from googling and arguing with you morons than I did from a year of Sunday school.
"Lucifer" isn't even a fricking thing in a bible. It was a mistranslation that got conflated with something in classical mythology, and Romans took it to mean, "Oh, Satan has two names!" It gets weirder when you get into the other Abrahamic religions. Judaism maintains that the serpent in the garden wasn't Satan or Lucifer at all, while Islam says Satan (Iblis) was a jinn, cast out of heaven not for leading a rebellion against heaven, but because he loved God too much to bend a knee to humans, who God said he was to serve.
The idea of the devil is a fluid thing and is more of a paganization than anything. Demonology is only vaguely based on the bible, and given all of the flavor and details by Europeans, who were pagan at their core. Religion was almost a theater, a comic book canon that people could argue over.
Vizzy actually did something clever in separating Satan and Lucifer, that is, separating the heart of darkness from the "rebellious intellectual" in an attempt to show that one does not necessitate the other, and maybe there's truth to that too.
>Religion was almost a theater, a comic book canon that people could argue over
Some things never change
hehe kitty pope
>cast out of heaven not for leading a rebellion against heaven, but because he loved God too much to bend a knee to humans, who God said he was to serve.
yaoi
Don't let the Muslims hear you say that. It initiates the self destruct sequence.
>a bible
Which one?
Wait till the average person learns the anti-christ isn't even a real thing in the bible
Or that human beings dont become angels when they die, in most christian denominations.
Oh that one gets even weirder when you learn about the classical interpretations of the anti-christ, typically viewed more as an era. By all means, if the old Christians saw us now, they'd say we're the antichrist. The Anti-Christ was typically viewed as a time when people would espouse humanist ideals without the idea of a greater god to serve, creating false goodness
Antichrist is literally anything that as the name implies is the opposite of Christ. It could be a person, a government, a false religion etc. What has happened is people at some point started equating "the Beast" and the " man of lawlessness" from Revelation with the term antichrist. Of course movies like "The Omen" reenforced that misconception
Jesus likes eggs so I hate them!
Yeah I don't think that is quite what the term means but OK
Not sure what you mean by this as the greek word that literally translates into "antichrist" appears 5 times in the New Testament.
He is.
In revelations, the anti-christ is denoted with the number 666. This was an actual person at the time revelations was written. 666 is the alphanumeric sum for the name Nero ceaser.
Revelations was possibly not a doomsday prophecy at all, but a Semitic author telling the Romans to frick off and using allegory to avoid retaliation.
Either way, Lucifer works as a name that Satan, which itself is a title meaning Adversary, would use to make himself look like the good guy as it literally means Shining One.
>big deal about not revealing Vaggie is an angel or that the Extermination is a thing
>both get revealed very quickly within 30 seconds of each other
Songs are like pressing 4x on plot progression
I just started watching this show but is Carmilla Carmine supposed to be a fallen angel?
In the sense that only an angel can kill another angel?
She looks pretty similar to Sera
As far as we know she's just a powerful sinner. The big thing about her killing an angel was that they could be killed at all, although Carmilla *possibly* used an angelic weapon to do it.
Can sinners have children? That's kind of fricked up.
>hehe let me give birth to you in Hell that you have no way of escaping
That's like living in India and giving birth to someone.
>Can sinners have children?
No, so either her daughters were adopted after she got there or (more likely) they died and went to hell. Most of Angel Dust's family is in hell, too.
>or (more likely) they died and went to hell
That's crazy to think about. Not one good egg in the family. And her daughters died young too.
The better question would be... does it even matter?
what if it turns out hasbin hotel is a prequel to hazbin hotel?
What if it turns out Alastor is actually Adam in disguise?
Then where's the real Alastor? Mimzy knew him when they were alive.
It was always Adam.
Always?
What if it turns out Alastor is actually Lilith in disguise?
>it's a "Charlie tries to redeem a pedophile episode
>it's a "Charlie tries to redeem Hitler" episode
>it's a "Charlie tries to redeem Ted Bundy" episosde
>it's a "Charlie learns about Buddhism episode and tries it out because all religions are real but then nopes out after finding out she has to spend 1000 years as a wienerroach" episode
>it's a "Charlie tries to explain to an atheist that all religions are real hence the hotel's attempt to fix things, but the atheist continues to believe that none of of this is real or at the very least isn't the result of the divine" episode
>it's a "Charlie learns about Mexican Catholics in a parody of Coco's fame-based afterlife" episode
We knew from the start this show isnt really looking to have any actually tough themes. It had a thing going in the pilot with demons meriting redemption or not but then of course had to have genocidal angels and then all complexity dissapeared
>but then of course had to have genocidal angels and then all complexity disappeared
I mean I could have worked as a way to explore how hollow acting as a good person for an extrinsic reward (going to heaven) or avoiding something bad (getting murdered by angels is and how redemption and being a moral should be something you do for yourself and those around you
I mean, hell already should be bad enough without genocidal angels around but the show's hell isnt really bad in itself, its just full of bad people.
>no Christmas special where Jesus visits the the hotel and wacky hijinks ensue (it’s the only episode that’s not a musical)
>A hazbin Christmas
>Not a musical
No chance. Instead,
>Charlie thinks the story of Christ is a great opportunity to make sinners see the light and seek redemption
>This leads her to trying to have a Christmas festival in Pentagon square (Near Heaven's Embassy)
>First musical number is a mishmash of styles with each resident of the hotel trying to use their own mix of christmas
>Meanwhile in Heaven, Emily hears Adam or another exterminator mention how they're trying to do the festival and how sad/funny it is
>She asks someone off screen if she can go
>He says yes and how he'll come pick her up once it's over
>As the party goes on, sinners end up crashing the party in a turf war or something
>The cast has to keep Emily away from the fighting as the party itself is ruined
>After the fight, a 2nd song about how bad it feels, reprised by Emily singing what the holiday's about, raising everyone's spirits
>Emily thinks of an idea before dragging Charlie off to the side
>A portal opens up as a voice asks Emily if she's ready to leave
>Charlie's eye's go wide in shock as Emily leans in and whispers something
>Voice says sure before a gloved hand emerges, handing Charlie a present
>Emily leaves and the portal closes
>Charlie comes back to the group smiling, holding the gift
>Everyone crowds around confused as she opens it
>A small snowglobe of her + cast, standing around a Christmas tree at the hotel all smiling
>Engraved on the bottom
>"Everyone deserves a second chance"
>Ending shot of it resting next to the bell at the front desk
Probably sprinkle a few smaller songs in there, I dunno
Someone has episode 2 and 4 for download? Thanks.
Why are people saying he dies in the series? Is there some sort of leak?
He dies happy between Cherri thighs.
b***h clearly wants snek dik but is lying about it. Why are women like this?
i want to sex the e-girl cyclopse
Niffty cannot consent because she is brain damaged.
even better
Do you guys think Adam is super straight?
>Heaven Does Not Know What Counts As Being Good Enough to Get INTO Heaven
I mean, it is very clear that is only a thing to make Charlie's weak ass arguments seem better but in the end only devalues heaven. The kicker is that she didnt even need that argument in the first place but the showrunners just wanted her appear more correct by making the opposition look like dumbasses.
He isnt supposed to be evil. Human free will is like a pet project that backfired on him and now he is left with the pieces. Its not even clear if the "fall" is literal or if he is just staying out of heaven by choice. He clearly still holds some power there given that he can get audiences whenever he wants.
It's whatever. "Mass killing happening while the general populace does not know about it" isn't too uncommon of a plot point. Heaven not questioning what exactly allows souls into Heaven because they'd rather enjoy themselves is whatever. I mean, why would they bother looking into it? Name's in the book? You're in. Heaven in media has a tendency to stick to the rules and not question anything. Problem is, there's no God being mentioned anywhere so it looks even worse.
is hotel a prequel to boss?
They're concurrent
It'd be such a waste to kill Adam before giving him a reunion with Lillith and maybe Lucifer. There would be no point in even making the character THE Adam.
The female protagonist is a genuinely likable person and turbo-feminists can't stand for that.
noo dude she has to be le heckin smug girlboss like Rey or Korra dude.
The overlords in the third episode are pretty shitty singers
Amir approves
So does god actually exist in hazbin hotel or is he just perpetually off screen to avoid slaughtering the one sacred cow vivize has left from her religious past
Nothing has been said one way or the other and the first episode opening might imply that the angels are collectively god.
Priests rape more kids than anyone. Why do you support pedos?
Actually public education teachers rape more kids than anyone.
Correction, gay priests rape more kids than anyone. Unironically all you need to do is root out the gays from the church and this issue would resolve itself
And this is actually the truth, female teachers are by far the biggest predators per capita within the public sector compared to priests
I need a /co banner that shows Adam saying “Hot as frick, though” in response to Lute “Their relationship is blasphemous”
Those couple of lines and their delivery have more characterization in them than all the songs put together.
>Wants to frick a member of the opposite sex
>Dies before he can score with her and will be the only significant character that isn't an antagonist to kick the bucket on top of that
What did Viv mean by this?
He’s going to get Vox killed to also fulfill his dream overcome the biggest overlord in hell.
Better to die than be poisoned by virulent strange.
He will never meet his son again…
Lucifer has always been a good guy
I really hope they dont kill Adam. He is one of the best characters in the serie.
>YOU ARE SILLY I AM CHAD
Take that dogshit meme back where you found it.
they went too hard on adam being a shitbag
He's mostly just crass. He respects his lieutenant and his boss. He just really hates sinners and demons.
he's just too dudebro, and i don't really get why they chose adam, not like he's had any interaction with lilith or lucifer or any real reaction to charlie being their spawn
Perhaps under that helmet Adam has on, Adam is like a drugged up Joe Biden. So when it’s taken off, he is no longer a fun character and we see how devastated he truly is. Like how Fizz hides his injuries and true personality (whom shares Adam’s VA).
Man I can't wait for these episodes to come out and kill your Vox fanfiction.
How does episode 2 not foreshadow Vox’s hand over the exterminators that literally wear demonic tron-like helmets that perfectly fit into Vox’s theme of technology and brainwashing?
Vox’s very face embodies brainwashing and his character type is that of a secretive mastermind.
Keep in mind they had this season be an entire self-contained story. So Alastor’s rivalry with Vox seemingly is supposed to be started and ended in this season. With a big and shocking reveal that Viv has hinted towards when she talked about the exterminator masks.
Nah. The “face” is way too unnatural and closed together. Like Vox’s digital face is. And Adam does not fit into the digital theming at all. Adam seemingly has Sera’s tall proportions (a very very long neck).
I think Adam has become a demon. He has demonic teeth and it explains why he doesn't take off his mask.
Adam is most likely one of the saddest characters in the show with Vox being one of the characters that Vivziepop actually hates for being a manipulative jerk that constantly prays on the weak and the weak-minded 24/7 of his existence. Adam doesn’t seek power and doesn’t seem to be happy at all.
I can't imagine that most of heaven is happy with the exterminations since it seems like most people are sent to hell and their loved ones/friends are there. Your friend and sister being stuck living in a bad neighborhood is very different from their souls being obliterated.
Heaven without loved ones is already contradictory in the real world mythology, so I doubt they'll explore that in the show.
Jesus Christ is the loved one.
>Heaven without loved ones is already contradictory in the real world mythology
Lmao, moron. Why do people talk about this without an understanding of any sanddemon theology.
Heaven is a second life in the New Kingdom which is God deciding to do 'new game plus' now without sin.
Or are you talking about the current Kingdom of Heaven which is no humans allowed other than two?
losing your loved ones means less happiness, which is contradictory to a perfect, happy world
or you can just go with the mindmeld everyone is one with god idea that invalidates the original human life
When you go to heaven you go "frick them, if they landed in hell it means they are unworthy and i dont need them in my afterlife, i gonna hang with the rest of heaven people"
It's that simple.
a) you don't get to decide what validates human existence the Skyfather would
b) losing those who lacked faith means nothing in the face of God's love which is essential and eternal
c) it's about starting fresh in a new place not about being rewarded with a paradise of virgins - please get your lore lined up correctly.
Everyone should AT LEAST read REV, one gospel, and GEN before talking about this shit.
You don't have to read the whole thing. We're talking about Hazbin not Umineko but the point still stands.
That's what he means by contradictory. If you remained "you" in heaven then you would be sad if people you loved were not there. But if you are essentially totally changed into a different person by god's presence (some would call that brainwashing, I'm trying to be neutral) then obviously there is a bit of an issue
But you aren't changed. If you didn't want to embrace God's love you wouldn't be allowed into heaven to begin with. It's as exclusive as it is voluntary. Per the new covenant the only REAL requirement to getting in is actually wanting to be there. If you don't want to enter the New Kingdom of Heaven you are free to stay on post apoc earth. If you're a shitter you're getting the torture pit, naturally but if you aren't it's up to you if you wanna go to heaven.
morons don't read scripture. Most churches are against the will of Christ if you read scripture.
Matthew 6:1-8 & 19-23
and that's contradictory to what all the morons preach
you cannot have eternal bliss knowing that those you love may suffer
Okay but legit is Alastar supposed to actually be black or did Viv pull that out of her ass?
It's both. Viv is covering her ass. It's not like any of these characters' human ethnicities actually matter in this show anyway.
what happens when angels/demons die again? Do they go to super hell or super heaven or something? Why are they so worried about being double dead? Their lives are already over. These characters act like they’ve never died in the first place because that’s how most of them end up in heaven/hell to begin with.
probably will just end up being reincarnation
Vaggie hate-fricking Lute with a strapon when?
>“Hot as frick, though”
I wish people still put effort into their screenshots
Oops, forgot the file lol
Saved thanks. Like I said, needs to be a banner one day.
I’m overworked and don’t care. Someone else can make a better screencap with captions.
Anyone got a link to the latest two episodes
why were the seraphim birds for like 3 seconds? was there a less furries mandate from corporate?
Humanoid faces are more welcoming than animal ones. Makes me wonder if sinners can shapeshift back to their human forms as well when they want. Which would be cool to see AngelDust transform back to his human face when he gets redeemed.
Favorite song?
More Than Anything took my favorite top spot from Loser Baby
so is Alastor on a leash metaphorically or literally?
when Niffty's episode?
Unfortunately she's more like a pet than a character, like KeeKee.
curious that vegana's and charlies redesigns coincide with an in universe outfit change to the hotel staff uniforms. maybe there's a pilot redesign charlie somewhere.
What’s the plot reason for Vaggie’s hairline being demolished?
I think Alastor is actually Lilith in disguise.
Alastor is just her boy toy doing her dirty work to clear out the old overlords loyal to Lucifer so she makes a power grab for Charlie and the throne of Hell
And Eve becomes her lesbian b***h according to keikaku.
feels like we're missing two episodes of content that had to be cut or something vox has only has what 10 minutes and alastor while having screentime hasn't really done much with the other characters before the dad episode
Rosie is Lilith in disguise, who is actually Eve in disguise, who is actually Alastor in disguise, who is actually Vox in disguise, who is actually Lilith in disguise again, who is actually Sera in disguise, who is actually Emily from the future, who is Lilith's second daughter somehow and also Lilith in disguise. And "Roo" is just the name of a kangaroo that is not important to the plot whatsoever, but she gets 3 songs.
What goes on in Charlie's panties when Alastor touches her
peepeepoopoo