Since they're rebooting DC anyway, will they take the opportunity to change his name to "The Captain"?
Since they're rebooting DC anyway, will they take the opportunity to change his name to "The Captain"?
Since they're rebooting DC anyway, will they take the opportunity to change his name to "The Captain"?
>certified fresh
lol
Gunn is never using shazam again. it's too mainstream and not obscure enough so people might actually have expectations.
Meanwhile in reality his first movie is Superman. Not exactly an obscure property.
only because he HAS to.
It's pretty clear he doesn't want to do Superman since he's shoving in 20 other DC superheroes into this "solo" movie.
>Gunn is never using shazam again
Peter Safran might. I think it'll depend on the performance of the new dc.
HOWEVER, I personally think Shazam might be better suited for television. but that's just me
Well, it wouldn't be television. It would be streaming.
>too mainstream
>not obscure enough
His first movie is Superman.
>never using shazam again
Shazam happened because Cereal Lord has his filthy paws on the til at the moment, and in addition to wanting to score some cash to fix his roof at the time, he had also been wanting to push his stupid canon as THE canon. All he has to show for it now is a a Failure Upward production company that has mostly resulted in cancellations and a stack of unproduced scripts so he's now back to making funny books.
David Goyer, after his set of failures has been more able, surprisingly, to get the stench of Snyder off his fat ass and conned the Oracle nepo baby (someone with access to the Apple excess pile of cash) that he's competent and knows genre science fiction.
Peter Safran doesn't care that much, he was just a producer because someone had to be, not because he was personally interested in the project and brought it to WB/New Line - it was the other way around, he was ASKED.
And yes, the DISCO suits people aren't interested in streaming shows with high budgets and loads of CGI, the days of that are GONE for all of you people who b***hed about the DCW.
Unless someone pitches something and Netflix or Prime will underwrite and pay for it, NO streaming DC content is going to happen that can't be done cheaply unless Gunn is willing to go to bat for it, like he will for Creature Commando.
this isn't entirely accurate; Johns is long gone for one thing
Shazam happened because of New Line Cinema, which made such cinematic greats as Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings trilogy and Son of the Mask (2005)
in 2007, New Line signed Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, a wrestler with little by way of acting experience outside of what were effectively stuntman roles and the awful 2005 Doom movie, to play Shazam (as the character had been marketed since acquisition by DC Comics in 1972) in a screenplay by John August (BIG FISH, CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY, CORPSE BRIDE); August later wrote that his script was on indefinite hold by 2008, while Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson held one excruciating press conference about it in late 2007 after signing, in which he clearly knew nothing about the character or story
in 2008, New Line was shut down by Warner Bros., which owned it as a separate studio since 1996 (having bought it from Ted Turner, who bought it in 1994)
the reasons for this were never openly stated - founder Michael Shaye and long-time associate Michael Lynne stepped down in what was certainly unrelated to making intentionally bad movies as tax breaks and definitely not related to stalling the production of Jackson's Hobbit movie(s) by refusing to pay royalties on merch to the actors from LotR by claiming that the trilogy never made a profit
thereafter New Line became a banner - a name-only studio - at Warner Bros. and its contracts became WB contracts; sometime in the death-spiral of the DCEU someone tried to resurrect the Shazam contract with now-huge The Rock, but because they couldn't afford him for Shazam or felt he'd aged out of the role or whatever other reason, he was recast as Black Adam, and the rest as they say is history
Doubtful. Right now there's another comic that refers to him as "Shazam" so I doubt his new name is going to stick after Waid eventually leaves the title.
What if it ends up being an iconic run that is so popular that it sets the tone for all future runs, like The Dark Knight Returns?
The book’s good but let’s be real, basically nothing coming out of DC right now is getting enough buzz to be called a new classic in the mainstream.
I wish, but right now, only Waid, and I guess the Amazons Attack book, seems to be calling him Captain, I do hope it catches on tho, I very much prefer it over Shazam.
>Right now there's another comic that refers to him as "Shazam"
I assume you mean Justice League vs Godzilla vs Kong, right?
With some luck, the current book will start influencing other DC writers to call him Captain.
Just do 'Captain Marvel' in the movie itself. Call it 'The Powers of Shazam' or whatever.
Also really hoping they actually rebooting it at some point.
Fantastic Beasts: The Powers of Shazam
>Just do 'Captain Marvel' in the movie itself.
pretty sure that won't get past marketing given that they'd want to sell toys
also no, you can't trademark generic terms
a bunch of near-clone toys show up the moment you release your movie, all called "The Captain" and you can't do shit about it
This, just use the Captain Marvel name, Shazam has always been the franchise name anyway.
How did they go from the best DCEU movie to whatever that sequel was, with the same creative team? Will we ever find out who fricked it up?
My theory? David Zaslav. He took over WB a couple years ago and the quality of DC films has plummeted sharply since then. He has been making a nonstop parade of baffling decisions with how to run the company.
>plummeted
Remember we had BvS, Suicide Squad, Aquaman and Justice League before him.
Well, Aquaman 1 was pretty good and the quality plummeted with the recent sequel. It was like, 2018 - 2019 we were getting some good DC movies, and then Zaslav came in and that was the end of that.
I enjoyed the first Aquaman but it wasn't a good movie. It's just that James Wan is a good director so he managed to make something watchable out of that fricking mess of a script and actors that didn't belong together on the screen.
Hm, really? I thought it had everything I wanted to see in a superhero movie. Lighthearted tone but it still treated the setting seriously instead of feeling like a farce where the characters constantly have to comment on how silly the situation is. Comic accurate costumes, which feels like it almost never happens. And I don't even like Amber Heard but I still admit she had good chemistry with Momoa. It felt like an Indiana Jones or National Treasure movie but with Aquaman.
Movies take several years to make and, even for all his bullshit, Zaslav has nothing to do with the quality of DC movies.
I'll be honest, I want to see a behind the scenes look at how the handling for the DCEU was mismanaged this fricking badly.
It wasn't managed at all; they asked "Who wants to make a Superman movie?" and absolutely no one raised their hand. Then after silence, way in the back, some jr exec said "My husband would probably do it".
So they made him Supreme Commander of this whole dubious enterprise, and everyone below the CEO breathed a sigh of relief that they weren't going to be held responsible. The Superman movie went sideways, made Superman Returns money not TDK money, but Marvel was printing more and more and more cash with each movie, so they told the guy "Hey, do what they are doing".
And after a few films they realized that not only was it NOT working, it was gonna eat up billions of dollars not making billions.
still convinced MoS got made and Snyder specifically picked to do it because of the failure of Watchmen to make any money despite 2/3 of critics saying it was fine
when they started production WB didn't own 50% of the rights and probably couldn't have made a profit on it without a runaway hit, but literally months before release they got that 50% back and then it actually did make a profit, partly because they'd effectively spent 50% more on it than it cost to make, which was purely down to DoD and Marvel refusing to work together (over who SHIELD answers to! fricking ridiculous!) and DoD wanting to spunk its remaining soft power marketing budget over some willing movie so that it wouldn't lose that amount from the following year's budget and be unable to market careers in the National Guard to rednecks and show off predator drones and other real-world high-tech soft power/force projection shit to China in the same movie
they just had no idea why people were watching it and rather than try to figure it out got panicked by SDCC being weeks later with nothing to announce, since they were planning to go into that without a panel because they wanted it to fail so they wouldn't get hit with lost earnings suits on top of everything else
Only the most moronic companies would ever hire Snyder after that, the guy weaponized a literal personality cult to pressure the company into wasting billions of dollars through boycotts and defamation campaigns just to make the guy richer and one thousand people on twitter happy. A guy who by own words disliked DC ever since he was a kid.
I think Rebel Moon got good viewership so Netflix isn't regretting it...for now.
it's Star Wars for people who find Star Wars hard to follow because of all the high concept stuff and quality acting
Snyder wasn’t even the first choice. The other guys they wanted didn’t want to do it.
I think the studio wouldn’t allow him to use Mr Mind or Tawny. As to why? I have no idea
They discovered the box office range of Shazam is 300 million to nothing, they will not be producing anymore Shazam movies. DC has a hundred characters that can make 300 million to nothing (Blue Beetle recently).
They are looking for another Batman.
They're not going to get another Batman with any character until WB stops being incompetent.
What do you want from Captain Marvel (SHAZAM!) series?
Hot teens!
>Since they're rebooting DC anyway
Don't get too excited, it won't last for long.
How many reboots does Shazam have anyway?
And why do they keep rebooting?
Not if they don't want Toni Tennille suing them
How powerful is he supposed to be like?
Just call him Captain Thunder at this point
>Just call him Captain Thunder at this point
Fricking this. They used that name in Flashpoint. Why are they so apprehensive to use it anywhere else?
because the Spanish-language market is the second largest audience American movies are sold to, and there's already a comic book Capitan Trueno, who had a movie as recently as 2011
so it's unlikely they can get that trademark either, which makes regionalization a pain