Skybound Transformers

More Decepticons revealed for the DWJ comic: Soundwave and Laserbeak.
Place your bets on the remaining two. Skywarp or Thundercracker? Rumble or Frenzy?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does it even matter in the end? The same 10 others will just appear later or did they confirm that they will only be five Decepticons?
    I might enjoy the Starscream-only period but that won't last for long. Megatron will appear sooner or later anyway to be the true "surprise" villain.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sure that there will be others like with the Autobots, but these will be the core cast the first arc will center on.

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    More importantly, FIRRIB or FIBRIR?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      He said he's basing his decisions on the 80s show/movie so FIRRIB

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        that doesn't answer shit

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rumble needs to be red so we can keep this funny unintentional Homestar Runner reference

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know they want to keep them recognizable but they couldn't even do a minor redesign? Arcee being the only non earth vehicle is going to frick the shit out of my autism

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      blood is just drawing this after 3P toys he owns, he's an old boomer

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't seem like the artist/writer is a huge TF fan from what I have heard he's probably just copying G1 toys from the 80s that he considers the standard designs. I doubt he knows about most cartoons, comics and toylines.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget that he's also probably taking ideas from Robert Kirkman and Hasbro.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >he hasn't read idw and like dremwave
        >must not be a true fan
        Kys

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          He didn't hint that he watched/read anything at all but the movie, Dreamwave and AHM which was unironically one of the shittest parts of IDW. Besides that his line about DW is also over-rated, he sounded like he meant it half-jokingly and he referred to the art. Art that he's clearly not capable of replicating.

          And yes, actively refusing to engage with series of a franchise you are writing for is a huge red flag, even IDW took ideas from Marvel, Dreamwave and others and newer cartoons get inspired by older cartoons and all kinds of comics. Just ignoring 95% of everything is a sure sign that the content will be generic shit made by someone that doesn't even know much about TF. Expect the story to be 70% human shit.

          I would actually be into the comics if they did anything like DW but I bet my fricking ass that it won't have nothing like it, neither the art nor the story.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >AHM which was unironically one of the shittest parts of IDW.
            Fans of the early Furman part of IDW have reason to dislike it, but the bar was lowered so many times since that people still complaining about AHM and pretending it's the low point of IDW Transformers just isn't a credible point of view anymore.

            >And yes, actively refusing to engage with series of a franchise you are writing for is a huge red flag
            If he's chiefly inspired by the G1 cartoon, it's OK for him to not have read many more modern Transformers comics, and not include any modern characterizations, lore or worldbuilding. We're long overdue for a back to basics approach that just does G1 Transformers instead of trying to reinvent G1.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I love Furman's comics of IDW and I still think that everything but certain cross-over crap was way better than anything in AHM. So yeah, opinions etc. AHM and the cross-overs were the only parts of IDW I had to force myself through. Wouldn't even have done that if they were disconnected from the rest, but IDW1 kinda fricked up with the continuity in general and let it run for way too long, basically making it a universe of vastly different series that even contradicted each other. IDW2 was perfect in that regard at least.
              I wonder if Skybound will give us any mini-comics or parallel series, but I fear the only thing we get will be Joe cross-overs. If they are that eager to remake G1 a Cybertron series would be for the best, but Furman is busy and it seems that Skybound didn't approach any of the popular artists so I doubt there will be more than one TF-only series.

              • 10 months ago
                Boco

                >I wonder if Skybound will give us any mini-comics or parallel series

                They're doing more than just the Energon Universe, or so they say.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                They're relaunching Larry Hama's GI Joe book that continues from the original 80s comic continuity, so it's certainly possible they could continue some old Transformers comics continuity if they wanted to, and thought it would sell.

              • 10 months ago
                Boco

                But no reprints....frick.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Presumably they'll be able to reprint any old Transformers comics (except the late DW stuff where the talent may not have been paid) the same way IDW could, but you can't have everything at once.

              • 10 months ago
                Boco

                Kirkman said they have "no plans" at least for now. Hopefully they change their minds, maybe even continue IDW's reprints of Marvel UK.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I genuinely cannot remember how exactly Marvel ended it was so many fricking issues and I read it ages ago. I only remember liking lore and background shit like the Wreckers story a lot and hating the fricking ads after every four pages enough to contemplated time travel and homicide.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >they could continue some old Transformers comics continuity
                IDW did ReGeneration One to wrap up Marvel's story.
                Skybound doing stuff would make some splinter continuity, the stuff comic book readers love

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >AHM and pretending it's the low point of IDW Transformers

              It's really, really bad. Not just in that it basically ignores existing continuity to the point that IDW/Hasbro could simply have played it off as an alternate line instead of hammering it into the existing stories and destroying the tone, pace etc, but as a story in its own right. Those first 6 issues before they could respond to complaints are just dogshit storytelling. It's a bad piece of writing and it shouldn't exist as a publication. If you want to get down to brass tacks and ask why Devastator is so huge and where Megatron finally got his big push from based off the Furman-established continuity then fine, but even without that, just taking it as another alternate version of the G1 cartoon continuity, it's unjustifiably stupid and trite.

              And this is a comic book. About alien robots who turn into shit and have been at war without respite for millions of years. The bar was not high but Shane McCarthy walked right up to it and started to deepthroat it, fundamentally misunderstanding the challenge.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Based. People shit on Costa and LL but AHM was the worst part of IDW for me by far. Second would be Visionaries or whatever the shit was called as well as that other cross-over about the Talisman. Third would be Optimus Prime or Unicron for the keikaku shit and Optimus bullying but even those series had some good shit besides the mentioned bad points. There wasn't a single scene or character or anything I enjoyed in ahm if I remember correctly.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Record low sales during MTMTE in it's 2nd half and LL.

                Does not help that most of the crazy lesbian cat lady fans would could have added to more sales were just openly pirating every copy come Wednesday ship out all over tumblr. They were a big part of what destroyed their little gay book

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >fans could have added to more sales were just openly pirating every copy
                That's just how it happens with licensed comics.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                They didn't love Transformers, they loved James Roberts message, it was never about a love of robots or toys, it was about themselves and being weirdos.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mean yeah, but was talking about my opinion, not sales. Also, you can find fat cringe fans in all kinds of fandoms, I doubt the G1 fandom of all things is devoid of fatsacks and mentally ill basement dwellers. Nothing against G1, I love Marvel at least.
                >Does not help that most of the crazy lesbian cat lady fans would could have added to more sales were just openly pirating every copy
                That is 100% true, yeah. I am not sure if it's even solely a tumblr issue and not rather a general gen z issue (or whatever generation people in their mid 20s belong to). I am not even as hopeful as you and believe that they pirate and read, I think many of them rather have their knowledge from memes and discussion from discord and prefer listing to youtube "opinions" and the wikia over actually reading comics. This is why they don't even care when something gets cancelled. All they want is some random input they can use for their headcanon stories.

                That said, most of the coolest TF fans and talented artists I know are also MtmtE fans, among other things. But they bought that shit and love to discuss the canon, not some personal ideas (and they also read all of IDW, not just one series that their friends recommended).
                That aside, Cylonus/Paragon >>> Cyclonus/Tailgate, Tailgate a shit. The fact that none of them cared about IDW2 bots confirms their lack of taste.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I get where he's coming from, I consider myself a huge fan tro the point of having a long standing mythos for my ideal TF series in my head since I was 13, but I've been out of the loop with most fiction for the last 10 years either because I've been busy since college or just have no interest. I basically tapped out of IDW after AHM or Maximum dinobots.
            And I say that as someone who's has new TF media since I was 3. There were already people who'd consider themselves huge fans when there was far less media. If you ever talk to older fans, there were people who had whole giant fanfic universes when all we had was the G1 stuff and barely 3 seasons of Beast wars.
            Hell, James Roberts is one of those people since he was mostly just into the Marvel comics and, IIRC, isn't that familiar with any of the shows, especially modern ones.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Dreamwave and AHM which was unironically one of the shittest parts of IDW.
            Dreamwave was a separate company that did TF comics before IDW.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah I know, I also listed the movie. I meant he only knows (or only talked about knowing) the movie, Dreamwave and AHM. The following part was only related to AHM, I should have clarified that.
              I wasn't a fan of everything DW did but the later comics were fricking awesome and this is right where it ended. I will never get over this. I love how JRo has used Megatron Origin as foundation for his pre-war story, but just imagine what DW might have done with it. We will never know. I feel cucked and betrayed, frick Pat.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hope Starscream will become president of Earth this time. Only way to ever make Earth politics interesting.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The Decepticons all work together to help Starscream become the new leader
      >The new leader of the Autobots

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Rumble or Frenzy?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is this Flipsides or Rosanna?
      I can’t tell the two apart.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Flipsides, which would be a crazy choice with tons of dynamic.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder if Laserbeak and the other "beast" cassettes will be able to talk.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I know it's only the G1 cartoon where they don't talk, but it's still always weird to me when they do.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Did you know Ravage was the fourth in command of the first year Decepticons?

        He’s higher rank than Skywarp, Thundercracker, Recflector and the other cassettes.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Strange as that may be, Tech Specs stats don't ever really come up as relevant to Transformers fiction at all though. Once you get past the leader and his inner circle, the rank stats don't really factor into anything much beyond the clearly designated leaders of sub-teams. Nobody ever really wrote anything where Ravage was bossing other Decepticons around because he outranked them.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but if you think about. Just who would be in command if Megatron, Starscream, Shockwave and Soundwave weren’t around during those first few years.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              With nobody like that around to organize and motivate them, the boys get drunk on energon and end up brawling with each other, or having another laser rave.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous
            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'd imagine they'd end up splintering into seperate sub-factions.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I imagine most authors would bring in the tertiary commanders. Your Scorponoks, or Deathsauruses, or Overlords etc

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            IDW Thundercracker is literally what happens when you read his tech spec

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I was talking about stats on Tech Specs, not the bio data. But IDW Thundercracker is what happens when you read the Tech Specs card and take things too far, too quickly. We could have had a lot more of Thundercracker being that one moralgay code of honor guy who's questioning Megatron's plans rather than having him leave and defect.

              If Starscream is questioning Megatron's plans it's because he thinks he has a better idea and everyone would surely make him the new leader if it works.
              If Thundercracker is questioning Megatron's plan it's because it's too evil for him to get on board with.
              If Skywarp doesn't like Megatron's plan AND dares actually tell him, it must be an absolutely moronic plan.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Strange as that may be, Tech Specs stats don't ever really come up as relevant to Transformers fiction at all though. Once you get past the leader and his inner circle, the rank stats don't really factor into anything much beyond the clearly designated leaders of sub-teams. Nobody ever really wrote anything where Ravage was bossing other Decepticons around because he outranked them.

          Well, to be fair, I don't remember when any of those guys tried taking command.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Still not Ratbat tier though.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's Senator Ratbat.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Skywarp or Thundercracker?
    Does it matter beyond which color scheme you like more? I doubt he's gonna reference their IDW characterization and in the cartoon they might as well be interchanable thugs.
    >Rumble or Frenzy?
    The purple/blue one.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Doubt he's gonna reference their IDW characterization
      Shame, IDW's 1 Thunderacker and IDW 2 Skywarper were my favorite characterizations of those two

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are they even bothering with this? It's not like any of the reveals are a surprise, so why the silhoute shit?

    • 10 months ago
      Boco

      Hey, we all expected the Autobots to use Bumblebee, but then surprise! Cliffjumper.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I get he feeling that it's less of a series for longtime TF fans and more like something for new readers that know nothing about it. The writiers probably wants to introduce newbies into TF by trying to replicate the G1 success. I wouldn't expect any meaningful surprises. Chances are high that even Cliffjumper will die and be replaced by Bee soon and that Megatron will return and be the leader 10 issues in.
      Will still be fun watching Starscream rule as long as it lasts.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I understand that, I'm not complaining about the cast, I'm asking why bother with the mystery homies shit.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          So they can get news articles about the same book for 5 consecutive days a week for the Autobot cast, and then do the same again the next week for the Decepticon cast.

          Daily cast reveals like this have been a thing in comic relaunches for years, they're just taking it to the logical next step of having hero and villain cast reveals.

          It's getting more attention and getting people talking about the book for longer than if everything was revealed immediately, that's the point of it.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's getting more attention and getting people talking about the book for longer than if everything was revealed immediately, that's the point of it.
            I am a bit surprised about the timing though. The series starts in October, so I assume they will reveal more to keep the discussions going. Would be weird if they announced the cast before a months long radio silence.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              got to get those pre-orders lined up

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think it'll be interesting to see what a Transformers series from someone who didn't experience IDW will be like considering how much recent media IDW has inspired.
    Of course, so far I don't really see a big twist, but I'm gonna wait and see if there is something.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am worrying a bit about the art. I don't get why new publisher or continuities don't try to get the best of the best, at least for the first year. If it looks bad the majority won't even buy the first issue or not get the second one if the interior of #1 wasn't good. It's such an important aspect of success that I am baffled everytime I see a new start being advertised and hyped and seeing it having cheap art. IDW2 did the same mistake, albeit I wouldn't even call that artist bad, it was just too alien and stiff to get people engaged and most of those I know that read it dropped it because of the art not the story or anything. I thought Skybound would be smarter and at least try to get Figueroa on board who is shilling his TF comic art again, but no.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I am worrying a bit about the art
      you have terrible fricking taste if you don't think DWJ is one of the best comic creators working today

      he's literally the only reason I'm checking out the book.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I never read his stuff, I am talking about the promo artworks I have seen so far and they look pretty bad. They are on the level of the twitter noobs IDW2 hired a few times when the lead artists needed a timeout.
        It don't give a shit about how allegedly good his human comics are, maybe the humans will be well drawn but the promo art for TF looks like shit and the mechas are all I care about in a mecha comic.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          ah I see, you're autistic.

          but that's the transformers fandom for you!

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            You have never seen good art if you call that sloppy shit good and anatomically correct. Hell it's barely even a finished pic, more like a sketch and not one of the good ones. But you sound like an American so you know jackshit about art anyway. That crap will never compete with globally successful comics.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              we already know you're autistic, no need to lay it on

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I have to agree. These promos look like rushed out sketches. I feel like I'm having a stroke seeing people praise these just because of the name attached to them.
          If these were made by no-name IDW artists people would be calling them shit without a second thought.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            you sure do agree with someone who posts a lot like you do.

            I'm not saying you're samegayging, but you might suffer from a shared mental condition.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >you might suffer from a shared mental condition.
              Yeah, it's called "not falling for 'star artist' marketing".
              I can't believe Cinemaphile of all sites is falling for this shit, to the point of calling mediocre art good just because of a name.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cinemaphile has consistently enjoyed his work for years now
                Bendis was hated for over a decade

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Cinemaphile has consistently enjoyed his work for years now
                And? Do you think these promos look good? You can't even concede he was having an off-day when he made them?
                You're just going to reply with
                >THAT'S [Artist's name] YOU CASUAL
                to any criticism?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                American comics are such a tiny industry people are impressed by simple shit like brush inking, speedlines and tones even with a sloppy example like the stuff here.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >because of a name
                People here get hard for cartoon creatures that look like colored blobs with frog eyes, it has nothing to do with the name, anons just call everything art as long as there isn't some Cinemaphilensole war going on.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I saw that too and was honestly surprised. Maybe it's coming from anons that aren't into TF? I guess I would consider the art less rushed and mediocre if this was my first TF comic or at least the first one after Marvel. Also everybody that calls it good seems to bring up the name of the artist, but the name means nothing when we talk about quality. DWJ seems to be capable of drawing panels that look good as long as they star humans, but the TFs look completely wrong and I am like 100% sure everybody would b***h about it if it was anybody else doing the art and drawing like this.

            [...]
            [...]
            >DWJ
            >Being bad at /m/
            Fricking casuals JFC

            That picture looks nothing like pic related, so what are you trying to prove? That he is good as long as he has three months of time to finish an artwork? That won't be the case with an ongoing. The art from OP's post is probably a good sample for how the interiors will look like.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            What gets me is that most legit assumed the new comic would try to do it right from the start. Guidi, Figueroa and Milne were awesome, sure, but the middle part of IDW1 and a huge chunk of IDW2 looked like shit regarding artwork which was one of the main reasons for fans were complaining about them. Because of this I expected the next run to start with some absolute top tier art and there are a good amount of TF artists that are easy choices but instead they trying to attract with names it seems, but /m/ isn't something everybody can draw. It's fundamentally different from drawing human comics or manga.

            you sure do agree with someone who posts a lot like you do.

            I'm not saying you're samegayging, but you might suffer from a shared mental condition.

            I am the second anon that brought it up in this thread so there must be at least two. The anon you respond to isn't me either, I am the drawgay autist.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You have never seen good art if you call that sloppy shit good and anatomically correct. Hell it's barely even a finished pic, more like a sketch and not one of the good ones. But you sound like an American so you know jackshit about art anyway. That crap will never compete with globally successful comics.

          I have to agree. These promos look like rushed out sketches. I feel like I'm having a stroke seeing people praise these just because of the name attached to them.
          If these were made by no-name IDW artists people would be calling them shit without a second thought.

          >DWJ
          >Being bad at /m/
          Fricking casuals JFC

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Bro, I'm just commenting on what I'm seeing.
            If pic related is what I can expect of the comic's inner art, then I'm not impressed.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mate, he's literally done an Evangelion commission

            these look amateur and if you saw these in a random tie-in manga they'd be considered unimpressive. tones are hard carrying the art by making it look more impressive than it really is. Messy linework as an excuse for style.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I am absolutely not impressed either, but that the artwork that the two anon have posted look indeed good or at least good enough. The issue is just that those are commissions showing stills that are drawn on huge sheets of paper. Now the same artist is forced to draw multiple of those for every single comic page, probably with multiple mechas in the same panels that aren't just standing but interacting and fighting and all of that has to be done with a narrow deadline of barely a month AND he has to write the story too on top of that.

              Commissions don't have deadlines like this. You basically do them in peace and have a lot of time to improve and refine them and considering that the artist seems to stick to traditional art he also has a way bigger canvas to work with. Maybe the first issues will be a bit better than the group art we have seen so far since he had more time for them, but it will eventually end up looking like that since I assume he didn't have much time to work on those promos either which is why they look so much worse than the commissions. They are a much better indicator for how the art will look like than fanart or comms.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        He is great yes, but drawing mecha is a whole different skill and not everyone can pull it off. Tell a random artist draw a EVA unit and probably they would suck at it if they didn't learn how to draw mechas.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Mate, he's literally done an Evangelion commission

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cool, than why his promo art doesn't look like your pic? I'm not impressed by his transformers until I see something better.
            Anyway, why are you so defensive of your husbando? An artist can be great but still do a shabby job from time to time. Like, Ezquerra is one of my favorite artists out there but even I wouldn't defend his shitty art when he started to switch to digital coloring.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mate, Skybound's whole strategy so far is get artists and writers who actually mean shit in the industry

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    starscream is going to kill cliffjumper again

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ohhhh, the silhouette was Soundwave. Damn.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really want to see Glit as the Decepticon equivalent to Ratchet.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Bayslop

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >baitslop

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh boy time for Megatron to be lost on earth and Cliffjumper to die and be replaced by Bumblebee.
    AGAIN.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bee is too busy being a family mech.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Buzzsaw always the most non memorable G1 Decepticon?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because Laserbeak was more prominent in the original TV show due to the fact that Hasbro wanted his toy shilled, since Buzzsaw came packaged in with Soundwave so as long as they shilled Soundwave there was no reason to also shill Buzzsaw.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean sure Rumble was shilled hard too, but they made effort to show Frenzy as well.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Rumble and Frenzy could talk though.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well, yeah. Otherwise, they'd just be unchurisimatic bores.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        A similar thing happened with the minibots who were packed with Metroplex, Trypticon, Fortress Maximus and Scorponok. The guys who were packed with Metroplex appeared in about 1 cartoon episode, the rest of the time the cartoons and comics were focused on promoting the big robot, not the little guys packed with him.

        Reflector was also underused due to be dropped from the 1984 toy releases at the last minute. Enough work had already started on the cartoon that he was in it, but they were under instructions not to really do anything with him as the toy wasn't on sale. After the very early episodes he just shows up occasionally as a non-speaking background henchman.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there even a synopsis out?

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people like this artist again? This promotional art is super boring and poorly done

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just looking up random manga scans and finding better, more impressive manga art. Call it generic if you want but it looks better.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bad example. Those robots have 15 years of design refinement on them.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Those robots have 15 years of design refinement
        Anon Transformers predates Brave and most of these designs are just Sunbow style

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Exactly. You should be posting examples of Transformers from 1984-1986 Sunbrow style.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not talking about the design, I'm talking about the finish. The clean linework, the dynamicness of the poses, it all looks better than what I'm seeing so far from this new series.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not him but how is that related? Johnson has the same basis to work with as the recent artists before him, DW and IDW looked good from the start and certainly better than Marvel, without needed 15 years to get there.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Dreamwave wasn't accurate. Everyone was bulked up and got joints that didn't exist originally.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                True, but it looked cool as shit and was colored like a gritty oldschool OVA.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can you tell the source? I can't find it

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gaogaigar vs Betterman, I literally just looked up a a random comic and chapter on a manga website

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am somewhat tolerant with art as long as the story is good and as long as you can tell what's going on, so personally, while not impressed, I am not too pessimistic either. I have to see an outtake of the comic before I decide whether I should look forward to it or not. Will certainly read the first issues regardless. My bigger worry is actually the Earth part tbh. Not even Dreamwave or IDW managed to make Earth content interesting enough for me to read, I skipped almost all of those comics.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just getting kind of sick of G1. Why not do a mainline universe style comic and take inspiration from across the franchise? Instead of just limiting it to just the 80s cartoon.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why not do a mainline universe style comic and take inspiration from across the franchise?
      Because they tried that during IDW and nobody cared.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        DW and IDW have both done something new it they were successful. The series that tried to pander boomers the most was actually WfC and literally everybody hates it.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The series that tried to pander boomers the most was actually WfC
          No, it wasn't. How the hell did you even reach that conclusion? Most of its plot points were plucked from IDW (miner Megatron) or bayformers (Allspark lost) and it ended in a Beast Wars crossover.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      When was the last G1 inspired anything?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think part of the reason people have G1 fatigue is that a lot of modern series have taken heavier influence from G1 even if they aren't outright G1, so it's almost like microdosing on G1 homages. We haven't gotten a straight G1 on Earth reboot since IDW launched(and yes, IDW was launched as a G1 series even if it became different by the end-- all G1 series do that. Look at Japanese G1 or late Marvel G1.)
        People see a G1 style Optimus and just feel burned out, especially since a good portion of this fandom collects the toys and we've gotten so many G1 Optimus style toys.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >evergreen designs is g1
          No. We haven't had G1 in over a decade.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes they are. Unless you want to claim that G1 is toy-accuracy.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >People see a G1 style Optimus and just feel burned out
          I'm there.
          Like, I know Earthspark is doing some different stuff but again Optimus is a boxy robot, red shirt blue pants, turns into a semi and swings an axe.
          Would it be too much to ask to throw in a fire truck every now and then? Evergreen was a mistake.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            A new version could use a logging truck for motif since lumberjacks also use axes.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >IDW was launched as a G1 series even if it became different by the end
          IDW was always different. Simon Furman intentionally wanted it to be because he was burnt out from Dreamwave.
          I mean the first story arc was about the Decepticons secretly infiltrating Earth and creating political unrest. And the Autobot cast looked like this.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Those are all G1 characters anon, with G1 esque designs and their alt-modes were meant to be updates of their G1 looks. Yes, the set up was different, but so were Marvel and Sunbow G1 from each other.
            I get what you're saying but it'd being obtuse when it comes to what people mean when they say they're burned out on G1.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              You can easily understand that Wheeljack and Bumblebee transform differently from the 1984 models just looking at them.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can easily understand that Bumblebee and Wheeljack being there at all is what anon's gripe is

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Again, updates of their G1 selves, but still G1 inspired.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                And as that person earlier said, pretty much every Transformers series other than Beast Wars was G1 inspired. Just that some stick closer to the formula than others.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Even bayformers was G1 inspired just based on the main cast from the first movie. It even made Bumblebee a mainstay.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dark of the Moon in particular had a stupid amount of references to the cartoon. No one is going to argue that.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Keep in mind, at that point in time, we were getting off of 10 years of beast series, then anime. IDW had the option of doing a TF cybertron tie in series but chose to do a G1 based take instead.
                Sure, you can say it's not G1 now, but relative to what people expected from "G1" back then it absolutely was.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, IDW started when the Classics toyline was a hot and fresh idea

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                FIRRIB

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Rumble is blue. No more discussion on that

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I am a cassette racist what was the difference between Rumble and Frenzy again? The colors trick doesn't really work because half of the series have Rumble being the red one IIRC.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Allegedly Rumble causes earthquakes while Frenzy has sonic attacks, but they both get shown quaking anyway. Basically 1 guy among two bodies.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Rumble is blue. No more discussion on that

                GET READY TO CRUMBLE

                BEFORE RUMBLE

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Rumble is blue. No more discussion on that

                but Rumble is red

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Only if you read comic books, own toys, or speak Japanese. In the cartoon the blue cassette robot is called Rumble in English dialogue.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Simon Furman intentionally wanted it to be because he was burnt out from Dreamwave.
            Based. Still disappointed Skybound didn't get him on board. I am actually more interested in his current robot series than the new TF continuity right now, even though his comic isn't even TF.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Define inspired. Technically every TF series is based on or inspired by G1 since they all copy the war and Earth plot, focus on the same central characters besides some mini-comics or way later stories, they copy most of the roles and so on. Even the comic designs are always inspired by G1 just more articulated and detailed to make it better and meet modern standards.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a boomer industry; the people who buy and make this stuff in America are largely boomers.
      There's a ton of zoomer TF fans who probably would love to make their own TF universe, but almost none who would make a comic.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just so you know, this artist is lazy like most indie "superstars" and has never in his life done more than 12 issues in a book (which he only did once, and it was creator owned). So expect heavy delays or fill-in artists, or to watch this die after two years.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >never in his life done more than 12 issues in a book (which he only did once, and it was creator owned)
      Is that true? His human stuff looks good, but I haven't read his series yet.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        His standard is seven issues

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    If it's G1like it would be cool as frick if went full retro and referenced or alluded Marvel content like the Nova Prime comic has done.
    How high are the chances for this? Has the new writer/artist read Marvel?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Won't happen. Not even panels where characters introduce themselves by name and personality, or describing what their weapon/superpower does.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wonder how different/similar it will be to All Spark, which was also a retelling of the original G1 cartoon.
    I loved that manga, but it was never translated AFAIK so I didn't understand everything, my Japanese reading skill is mediocre at best.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      has Allspark been posted online yet?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Could never find it. I just owned an old manga. I think it must be uploaded somewhere since someone has translated the first chapter a while ago (it's on mangadex and mangakakalot), but no idea if they will continue.

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    He said that it would only feature the original bots AFAIK but what does he mean with that?
    If it's really only the cartoon it will be a letdown, but if it includes Marvel too it could be cool as shit. Most of the best TF characters stem from Marvel and the Japanese G1 continuity IMO. I don't expect the latter to be referenced but taking ideas from Marvel would be good enough. It better includes Straxus, Impactor, Thunderwing and the likes since those are the bots that most other series ignore despite being iconic. A series that goes back to the roots would be limited to G1/Marvel so it would make more sense for them to appear.
    >inb4 it's literally just the cartoon shit

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      If it is running only 7 issues like said, then it probably will just end with a shootout where Optimus Prime and a Decepticon get a mutual kill on each other, and then a new person works on it who will use their own tastes, making speculation pointless.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You already know you're just setting yourself up for disappointment

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rumble is blue. No more discussion on that

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      FIRRIB

      But he's obviously purple

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      FIRRIB

      Wasn't rumble the red one? Why they change his color

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sunbrow are color blind.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The toy was the red one but the cartoon mixed it up. Rumble was also slightly more prominent in the show and as such people will stand by him being purple.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sunbow mixed up their names for some reason and since this is trying to appeal to Sunbowgays, well obviously they went with their version.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a veritable rabbit hole
        >https://tfwiki.net/wiki/FIRRIB

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          My favorite is how Earthspark just said frick it and had Frenzy be purple with no Rumble.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Last one will be Sunstorm

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Too good to be true.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sadly no, was confirmed it's only Geewun bots. Sunstorm would my primary choice as well if I was the writer. Especially he comes with his vision shenanigans.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          He was in the first episode. Just didn't have a name or lines, being a generic.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sadly no, was confirmed it's only Geewun bots. Sunstorm would my primary choice as well if I was the writer. Especially he comes with his vision shenanigans.

        I mean it could introduce one of the not main 3 seekers, so they can kill him later

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was always primed to see Frenzy as blue because his 2007 version had blue eyes and a light color.

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would frick Starsream

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    So, apprently a new interview from the writer. Of note.
    >It's going to start with a 6 issue run
    >Some G.I.Joe references but nothing too big
    >No Void Rivals stuff for now
    >DWJ's favorite Decepticon is Skywarp (So, I guess Mystery Seeker confirmed?)
    >Prefers Optimus's head design from the movie vs the show

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder if Skywarp will teleport with a human hostage, then be surprised that humans can't reassemble themselves after being separated on a molecular level for transportation like he can.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I assume you're talking about this interview.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Growing up on TF:

        >was a tf fan as a kid
        >grew up watching g1 reruns and beast wars
        >connected to the japanese designs of the toys
        >would draw movie optimus over and over based on a vhs ad in an old richie rich comic
        >would also pause his vcr for his drawings
        >asked his mom for the masterpiece optimus prime, at the age of 22, for christmas
        >he got it
        >always collected the toys
        >not a fan of bayformers
        >loves 1986 film
        >would buy old marvel back issues as a child
        >had his father drive all over to different stores hunting them down
        >liked marvel generation 2
        >went in and out of idw
        >favorite decepticon is skywarp
        >favorite autobot is optimus prime
        >prefers 86 film optimus head the most

        On his TF:

        >skybound wants a return to form to the "classic vibe"
        >not influenced by idw
        >massive influence from marvel
        >thinks the reveal pieces for his characters looks awful due to him still learning how to draw everyone standing around
        >finders the haters funny
        >hasbro thinks his work looks "too g1"
        >is making transformers for himself and no one else
        >will be about the transformers
        >not much void rivals references
        >a few gi joe references
        >1986 film is his visual bible
        >is doing six issues
        Once again stole this from a discord and didn't watch the video myself yet.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          give me a discord link if it's an open thing, I'm an old boomer and I don't know where people talk transformers anymore

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          his mom for the masterpiece optimus prime, at the age of 22, for christmas
          What-
          >not a fan of bayformers
          That's good at least. Every TF writer should dislike that shit.
          >massive influence from marvel
          Hope that means it will get all those Marvel UK characters and IT and such.
          Did Americans even read Marvel UK?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            they got Man of Iron

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Did Americans even read Marvel UK?
            If they have interested and know where to pirate, they might give it a try.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Did Americans even read Marvel UK?
            It was highly recommended reading in the late 90's and 2000's at least.
            The TF fandom was decent sized but not as big as it is now, and with less media it felt like everyone could mostly catch up on the same stuff. I honestly miss how tight knit the fandom felt in the 2000's before the movie, it was, all things considered, more peaceful and civil.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          his mom for the masterpiece optimus prime, at the age of 22, for christmas
          What-
          >not a fan of bayformers
          That's good at least. Every TF writer should dislike that shit.
          >massive influence from marvel
          Hope that means it will get all those Marvel UK characters and IT and such.
          Did Americans even read Marvel UK?

          I remember after college I honest to god asked my dad for MP Nemesis Prime and Soundwave. I'm in no way proud of that and in fact it's the lack of dignity that put a fire under my ass to just go to work and earn things myself.
          He does model kits and trains himself so he got why I'm into it but god it's so embarrassing just thinking that I was asking for those, not even as a christmas present, at 21 years old. I ended up boxing them away because I couldn't bare to see them. now I have acoustic wave and Fans Hobby Archenemy

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >massive influence from marvel
          OPTIMUS DEPRESSION TIME

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Will Optimus Prime kill himself and get replaced by a version stored on a floppy disk?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >off-brand Circuit Breaker shows up

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >DWJ's favorite Decepticon is Skywarp
      Skywarp bros our time is now!

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dressed like a goth girl, but is a goofy joker.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I guess that means that those issues are just an intro and that Megatron will (re)appear right at the end of the sixth one and then the true serialization starts.
      I wonder if it's made like a comic that you can skip. Not that I want to, but I wonder if new readers will be able to jump right into the next series without reading those six issues first. I assume it takes off right where it ends.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>It's going to start with a 6 issue run
        In other words, DWJ will draw 6 issues and then someone else will step in.

        Couldn't they just take a break then follow up with another run that continues the numbering and repeat?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        they're gonna do a Marvel where the mini ends with a big cliffhanger and the next book will be a continuation of that

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          God, Shockwave is fricking edgy.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>It's going to start with a 6 issue run
      In other words, DWJ will draw 6 issues and then someone else will step in.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I admit that this sounds good. I think that huge franchises like TF should have way more shorter series that focus on different characters and settings. That way you pander to everybody, can make the world more complex and develop characters and lore you wouldn't have the time for in an ongoing about the war on Earth or something.
        It can still have some a mainplot they all refer to and some longer running series, but never-ending continuities with a billion different writers all trying to write their part of the Earth war and end of it doesn't work well and I am saying this as IDW gay. It also tires the people. Even if you love Furman or MtmtE or whatever it's annoying to feel forced to keep up with everything else if you want to know how it truly ends. Think that mini-comics and shorter prequels and side-stories like those IDW2 had are a better choice.

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly surprised no Ravage and Third Seeker, since otherwise we'd basically have the pilot group sans Megatron (probably going to be left for the end as a hook for the next arc) and Reflector (who is really easy to forget)

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frenzy should have such a high frequency he isn't in the visible light spectrum.

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    We use to have a MEGA link with all the Transformers comics and fiction, what happened to that one?

    Sauce?

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Better question:What do we know about reprints? Are they allowed, and if so, when are we getting them?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They are allowed but I wouldn't expect it to happen, at least not anytime soon.
      I personally joined too late myself and regret being unable to buy the IDW1 shit I enjoyed since it was already gone by the time I tried to get, especially for someone that isn't from the US/UK.
      We will sadly never ever get reprints of late Dreamwave I fear which kind of depresses me.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Which is why is something like anon's quesiton here

        We use to have a MEGA link with all the Transformers comics and fiction, what happened to that one?

        Sauce?

        possible

        There use to be a big MEGA link for all the TF fiction and content, now it's gone. Do we have a new one?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just checked, you are right. I didn't look it up since I downloaded all of the comics a long time ago, wonder why it was deleted.
          But if's any help visit getcomics, they should have everything related to Dreamwave and IDW at least. Cannot remember where I downloaded Marvel UK, think I just googled it and found a link in some forum for that.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Looking for some of the obscure stuff they had like translated story pages from G1 Japan in the later years

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Omar said they can't reprint Marvel TF stuff, and that GI Joe has a few hurdles before reprint. I have to only wonder what those are before they get around to reprinting.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Has anyone been reading the Marvel G.I. Joe storytimes being posted here?
          What's killing me is the number of lettering mistakes.
          I can't imagine Hama / DeFalco / Marvel letting them go in the original run which makes me wonder if it was done by IDW or by Marvel before they sent them to IDW.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I highly doubt that Marvel would frick up something like lettering before sending stuff to another publisher

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Also, can you explain what happened with DreamWave to me please? I don't know very much, yet people here say it's based.

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    Anonymous

    I wonder if/when they're gonna put Micronauts and ROM into this universe.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Marvel recently got the rights to Rom and the Micronauts, and I don't think Hasbro really cares about those brands anymore, so I doubt it.

  45. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    As non-good as the DW novels were, I wish more publishers would release TF novels. Just ask Ruckley if you cannot think of anybody else. I feel like a lot of shit would be too particular and special for the comics but I want to know about it regardless. Would love a pre-war novel or a book about one of the other Cybertronian cities, not Iacon.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Perceptor will forever be drawn with a shitty scouter because of IDW
      Just give me happy nerd back you fricks.

  46. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    SOOON

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I sure hope not. Galvatron works better when you have an idea of what Megatron is first.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah sure, but one of the things I preferred of G1 was that Megs later turns to him instead of Galvatron being a separate entity or be ignored altogether. Will probably take ages since it only happens late into the story if the composition is anything like G1.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Depends on how wide the cast net is.
          Because if it's just Sunbow S1+2 and the Movie, unless Time Travel gets involved I could see Galvatron being left for the 'finale' so to speak.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does anyone know which year Hasbro was going to release that discarded Megatron/Galvatron triple changer concept if it went through?

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