That's why I said two minutes, moron. It takes at least an hour to caramelize onions.
7 months ago
Anonymous
lmao, holy shit no mate ffs, an hour? what the frick, you are doing everything wrong what this anon said
I've cooked raw onions like that on burgers before. They don't burn because the fat and moisture from the meat prevents them from charing. It's tasty, try it.
if done right it chars lightly caramelizes and is delicious, also no onion takes an hour to fully caramelize thats mental
7 months ago
Anonymous
>put onions in pan >add little bit of water and sugar >cook until they're brown (7-8 minutes) >???
Browned onions are not caramelized onions, you fricking cooklets.
7 months ago
Anonymous
no caramelized >an hour
lmao, I'm a chef mate
7 months ago
Anonymous
I realized that if you know anything about the culinary arts, you will be rejected by the unwashed masses.
7 months ago
Anonymous
aye
7 months ago
Anonymous
It is physically impossible to caranelize onions in 8 minutes. >I'm a chef
Yeah just a medium fry, thanks. And no ice in the drink.
7 months ago
Anonymous
no its very easy you have no idea what you are doing, also brown sugar and a little balsamic in a pan, if you pay attention 5mins on high heat
7 months ago
Anonymous
YWNBAC
7 months ago
Anonymous
tell me where you work so i can never eat there in my life. i dont want to wait an hour for my food.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Doesn't know what a prep cook is
Thanks for confirming you're not a chef. You're not cut out for the kitchen.
7 months ago
Anonymous
LOL! If you think I didn't extrapolate you being afraid of high-heat from taking longer than 5min to caramelize some onions, I don't know what to tell you. I'm glad you're having so much fun learning all the positions of the kitchen.
7 months ago
Anonymous
lol so butthurt, you would cream yourself over some broccoli i made in 5 mins
7 months ago
Anonymous
No, I've had better
7 months ago
Anonymous
>making caramelized onions is easy if you just add sugar and caramelize that on to the onion instead
literally dishonest cooking
7 months ago
Anonymous
its time to stop posting cooklet
7 months ago
Anonymous
kek 'chefs' are pathetic, learn to cook properly instead of trying to trick idiots out of their money as efficiently as possible.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>learn to cook properly
take those words to heart because you are clueless
7 months ago
Anonymous
You think you can't prep caramelized onions.
7 months ago
Anonymous
So you reply to a different anon instead of the other one who BTFO'd you?
LOL! If you think I didn't extrapolate you being afraid of high-heat from taking longer than 5min to caramelize some onions, I don't know what to tell you. I'm glad you're having so much fun learning all the positions of the kitchen.
Typical cooklet. Enjoy working for minimum wage at the bottom tier of your industry for the rest of your life. You will never be able to handle the heat if you can't prep onions on the fly within 5min.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I am not arguing with you for the same reason I do not argue with people who continue to insist that objects fall up. Onions can't be caramelized in 7 minutes. Heat is not a linear quantity where doubling the heat halves the cook time.
7 months ago
Anonymous
he's already admitted that he just fakes it by putting sugar and vinegar in to the pan and caramelizing it on to the undercooked onions, something which CAN be done in a few minutes. It's honestly sad that he has to come in and scream about being the real chef here, maybe someday he'll manage to convince himself it's true.
7 months ago
Anonymous
It is true and I am more based than you. Sorry you can't cook. Hopefully you don't keep everyone waiting too long next time you try.
7 months ago
Anonymous
you never told me how much concentrate you add to stock btw
7 months ago
Anonymous
Go ask your sous chef homosexual
7 months ago
Anonymous
lol if you can't caramelize onions in 5mins on the fly you will never make it, I said I can do large bulk caramelized w/e I want cope and seeth
7 months ago
Anonymous
of course, huh? and lower scale restaurants we do it in advance big trays 3-4 kg each in the oven, at more upscale places you do it on the spot
7 months ago
Anonymous
How much concentrate do you add to your stocks, ""proper"" """"""""chef"""""""?
7 months ago
Anonymous
That's why I said two minutes, moron. It takes at least an hour to caramelize onions.
caramelisation is a component of browning. we generally call onions 'caramelised' when they have reached a certain state of cooked, they're broken down and caramelisation has penetrated beyond the cut surface of the onions, but the reality is they undergo some 'caramelisation' very quickly as the sugars near the surface are exposed to heat.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>put onions in pan >add little bit of water and sugar >cook until they're brown (7-8 minutes) >???
7 months ago
Anonymous
Did you forget to turn on the stove or something?
7 months ago
Anonymous
I just laughed for the first time in a week. Based post. I dont want to go in today bros. I want it to be Monday again.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Just go homie. Itll be monday before you know it.
7 months ago
Anonymous
if you don't I'll be lowkey mean to you rest of the week
7 months ago
Anonymous
FRICK!
7 months ago
Anonymous
retail/office workers will never know this pain. no sick day goes unnoticed. everyone feels it, and they want revenge every time.
your cleaning out the salad bar deep clean next arvo if you do
7 months ago
Anonymous
I'm so glad we don't have salad bars or anything I'd have to clean on the floor, but I'm sure that homosexual garmo is gonna be happy to see me scrubbing his fridge down. Little homosexual. No heat in those garmo c**ts. FRICK!!!!!
7 months ago
Anonymous
make sure you scrub down the corners, you always miss that shit you slacker
7 months ago
Anonymous
retail/office workers will never know this pain. no sick day goes unnoticed. everyone feels it, and they want revenge every time.
I've cooked raw onions like that on burgers before. They don't burn because the fat and moisture from the meat prevents them from charing. It's tasty, try it.
it is literally perfect for a cheese burger for the exact reasons stated, also it adds flavor while not overwhelming the rest of the flavors, if you ever use chedder or something stronger you are doing it wrong
a strong blue lightly crumbled as the pattie is almost done is amazing however thats not the right taste for a classic cheese burger, now try this turkey brie and cranberry, american cheese is still perfect for a classic, which is what he promised to make her
Well, the best high-end American cheese is locally sourced from America.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Where do you even get “high-end” American cheese?
at the actual cheese counter in your grocery store, not the aisle full of vacuum packed kraft dairy product not legally allowed to be called cheese
you get it from your suppliers, idk where you'd get it in a supermarket, you order it from your supplier
i've never seen proper american cheese in a supermarket i have no idea I order it in bulk and yes I already replied to you here [...]
just trying to clarify
Interesting, I’ll try asking about it next time I visit a good upscale supermarket. Never realized American cheese existed outside of the crap that doesn’t actually qualify as cheese.
>Where do you even get “high-end” American cheese?
at the actual cheese counter in your grocery store, not the aisle full of vacuum packed kraft dairy product not legally allowed to be called cheese
Cheddar does not melt in remotely the same way that American cheese melts. Anyone with eyes can tell the difference. You're also a dumb b***h if you put cheddar on a burger
>meat is clearly overcooked and borderline charred >American cheese slices >edges of the slices is charred >onions are charred >blatantly obvious frozen fries
I would eat it, but it would probably give me pause for a few seconds. That's not good cooking.
morons didn't watch the movie and don't understand he's intentionally making the cheapest most greasy and unhealthy all-American burger he can because the customer asked for it, and it finally gave him passion for cooking once again, which the fancy gourmet dishes never did.
European food is shit with the exception of Italian food. Only good food in Europe is the dirty Muslims who open kebab shops that actually season dey food. Name one European dish that America / Asia / rest of the world doesn’t absolutely ass frick in terms of flavor
you are moronic, but that comes with being an american israelite worshiping subhuman. keep shoving down bastardized american versions of european food and your shitty burgers with fake plastic cheese while pretending you know what good food is and what isn't
Cope more. Guess you can’t name any. Go eat your dead seal fermented in ice you euro gays can only hope to have BBQ that makes me fun cum in my pants
7 months ago
Anonymous
american food can be sumorized with 3 things: >european but worse
like taking something wich was good and had soul and turn it into litteral slop like deep dish pizza >heart attack before age 40
comes from all the grease and plastic in your shit food >as big as an americans ego
gotta make up with quantity when the quality is shit > Guess you can’t name any
the shit i just posted mogs anything americans ever invented while being actualy healthy > BBQ that makes me fun cum in my pants
immidetaly starts to cum in his pants over the thought of litteral unhealthy slop, can't make this shit up. you are a walking stereotype of a dumb mutt
7 months ago
Anonymous
Dude you have not been to America. In most of the cities you can get authentic food from any culture. I can get Lebanese food from people thag don’t speak English and smell. You know what I can’t get? European food because it all sucks wiener and balls. Only Italian like I mentioned. Now go eat some snails or fried fish and potatoes you bloody wanker
7 months ago
Anonymous
>authentic
lmao thats were you are making your mistake
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Dude you have not been to America. In most of the cities you can get authentic food from any culture >he unironicaly thinks his slop is authentic
holy frick mutts are low iq, also keep it down you may get a heart attack from al the slop your fatass shovels down. you are not qualified to say what food is good and what isn't because your taste buds have been raped from all the sugar and grease in your slop you call shamelessly "food"
7 months ago
Anonymous
Authentic dude pease go to New York or LA and tell me the food is not authentic. LA has Thai food better than most places in Bangkok. Get real and stay mad. Still waiting on your awesome euro cousin (can’t use Italy they are the only decent euro’s making food)
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Authentic dude pease go to New York or LA and tell me the food is not authentic.
itÄs not you moronic homosexual, they have to add a shit ton of sugar and other trash because of your subhuman tastebuds >LA has Thai food better than most places in Bangkok >it's authentic >no wait it's even better
low iq mutt brain >Still waiting on your awesome euro cousin
schnitzel and rinderroulade or hackbraten are not only healthier than your greasy slop but tsate better aswell, kys and don't forget to tip your local israelite before you do
7 months ago
Anonymous
>goes to big american city >gets food delivered from some chain instead of going to one of the thousands of authentic places because he's a bugman terrified of human contact and doesn't want to have to not tip in person >blames america
7 months ago
Anonymous
you don't get the point you moronic homosexual do you? your shit is NOT authentic. every exotic cuisine especialy in america has to change their recipe to appeal to the locals. your country runs on sugar and grease, if you ever had to actualy eat authetic foraign healthy food you would get the shits because your body can't figure out where the grease and sugar in in the meal you just ate >LOL GERMAN FOOD IS FUKING TRASH
yeah it's trash when you haven't consumed anything but sugar and grease your whole life. your country is unironicaly consuming PLASTIC cheese. that's like some homosexual who only watches adam sandler comdies lecturing people on comedy, get a fricking grip you fat ugly mutt
7 months ago
Anonymous
Stay mad. 0 German places that are popular in any American city. Plenty of Thai, Korean, Italian, even Greek.
No German places because German food sucks
We have the option to cook our own food or go legit eat from people that grow their own stuff. Every good Thai restraunt worker grows most of the shit they need so I don’t know what you’re on about. Don’t need to change recipe unless you’re going for profit like shorty Chinese places. But you can get good China food dim sum etc in big cities.
American is melting pot that has made an amalgam of all cousins to create the best / most choices / delicious places on this planet. There’s a reason most high dining is in America.
Go eat snails in frog land and a baguette
7 months ago
Anonymous
we already made the point that your tastebuds are ruined due to sugar/grease intake since childhood, many of you homosexuals haven't even ever touched a fruit (see asmongold) you can't argue what food is good and what isn't simply on the basis that you never actualy ate anything but sugared grease in your whole life. now go kys mutt
7 months ago
Anonymous
I promise you I could make you a steak that would turn you gay.
I can’t cook many dishes well yet but I use USDA prime (good luck getting that quality for 10$ a steak in euro poor land(
Salt — allow to dry in fridge 24 hours (depending on thickness but I only cook 2inch plus since I can bulk buy at Sams (seethe euro)
High smoke oil or mayo light coat on steak after pat dry
Reverse sear - oven first 15 mins 225 pat dry again.
Cast iron being cast iron to hottest possible while steak is in oven
Sear 30 seconds no longer than 1 minute on each side
Go around edges if cut has fat to render
Finish with butter and baste be quick to not burn butter this is last step (will admit Kerrygold euro butter is better here)
Let rest for 1 - 5 mins and set on WARM plate both important
My taste buds would rape yours
7 months ago
Anonymous
>I promise you I could make you a steak that would turn you gay.
your steak is so bad it turns you into a homosexual? explains why you sound like one >My taste buds would rape yours
my taste buds aren't into homosexual shit sorry, but i am going to sit out your gay-steak bro lmao
7 months ago
Anonymous
Nice cum back. Seethe homosexual go eat your euro slop and don’t ever step to America again (or we will stop funding nato and let daddy Putin inside your hole)
7 months ago
Anonymous
soak it in a combo of good quality melted ghee add fresh cracked black pepper no salt leave for 20 mins before cooking, otherwise not bad,m if no gee use good oil DO NOT USE BUTTER, until frying
7 months ago
Anonymous
Black pepper burns on my cast iron and makes a bitter taste similar to butter I add both afterwards or at the last 10 secs of a sear
I soak in salt to draw water out to give a better crust to sear
Idk ghee can’t compete with mayo or avacado oil I want high smoke on a pan sear to avoid making the entire house Smokey
7 months ago
Anonymous
no no, the pepper properly applied should not burn, also no fricking salt tahts drawing the mostire out of the steak leave that till later, ffs, some garlic cloves stuck into the steak some very tiny ones not crushed just cut and stuck into the steak, why are you trying to draw salt out of your steak by blanching it? stop adding salt, the sear comes from the butter then oil
7 months ago
Anonymous
No it doesn’t look of mallard reaction. Plus this is how they cook it in very high scale places. Look up dry aged beef and cost.
Pepper does burn on a hot cast iron you’re moronic
Garlic is done after the steak and pan deglazed usually with some onions I have in the oven and I set my steak on the bed of clovers and onions not instead like a moron
7 months ago
Anonymous
>pepper does burn
sure if your a moron about it thats why a mix of ghee and black pepper is paramount, neither burns, garlic does char and burn a little thats ok >look up dry aged beef
mother fricker what? I am paid vast amounts of cash to do this just pay attention and stop pretending you know what you are talking about, just take in the information try it you will clearly be surprised at the results
7 months ago
Anonymous
>ghee can’t compete with mayo or avacado oil
in addition this makes me sad and disgusted on a visceral level, do better.
7 months ago
Anonymous
you know that salt absorbs moisture, correct? you only want to salt right before you throw the steak on the pan. you let it sit until it reaches room temperature then pat it down with paper towels and it's dry. cast irons are universally shit with uneven heating, reverse searing is a waste of time, avocado oil is overkill, just sear it in clarified butter, basting is a waste of time if you're not going to de glaze and make a pan sauce
7 months ago
Anonymous
>you know that salt absorbs moisture, correct?
tell us more, mr dunning-kruger
7 months ago
Anonymous
have a nice day, redditor. nobody salts their steak overnight. it doesn't dry the steak it absorbs moisture out of the steak
7 months ago
Anonymous
this, stop pre-salting your steak please just stop
7 months ago
Anonymous
Nope go look up “should I brine my t chicken / turkey overnight”
Salting meat over time is the most classic way to preserve and flavor people
Have been cooking like this for thousands of years go read a book zoom zoom
But I usually only do it 4 hours or less but depends on thickness of meat. You probably only cook with thin poor people steak but some meat is like 4+ inches a lot of tomahawks need a while to de moisturize
7 months ago
Anonymous
ok bud, I don't need to look it up but go on keep fricking up your steak
7 months ago
Anonymous
Lol bet you don’t salt brine your turkey is probably shit (you have no family)
It’s how you get flavor to penetrate cell walls think of salt like the Trojan horse and the castle as your tight boy hole
My Trojan horsey can enter your little gay spot because of salt
It’s so basic that I’m worried for your. Dangerous having morons on the internet. Keep yourself safe
7 months ago
Anonymous
oh, i get it. you're reading directly from those seriouseats articles published a few months ago. it's all youtube cook horse shit
7 months ago
Anonymous
also we don't need to preserve our meat their are much better ways to cook fresh meat, get it? no of course you don't
7 months ago
Anonymous
Not to get a solid crust which is the best part of a steak and then the insides still red like your mother’s used teets after she brought you into this world
7 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
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salting causes meat to retain more moisture as it cooks
you don't have any idea what you are talking about, yep I got it, and more then that you refuse to take on advice that will make your steak so much better but w/e you do you I guess
ok buddy I am paid to do this, you looked it up on google and are soaking your steak in saltwater over night aka brine, you just keep on keeping on. why not try our suggestions at least once? just once? you might be surprised
7 months ago
Anonymous
you're paid to pretend to know how to cook on Cinemaphile?
7 months ago
Anonymous
lol keep ruining your steak do as you will, why not accept advice from professional chefs? is it just arrogance? moronation not sure, tried to help you out but you clearly think the >first result on google
is the right way to go, so go on, keep making dry over salted shitty steaks I guess, enjoy
7 months ago
Anonymous
You can’t comprehend reading
Salt brine is for LARGE meat like a whole chicken Turkey
I am salting the outside of thick meat for 2-4 hours depending on thickness so I can get a good crust on my pan seared cast iron
Maybe you suck dick for money doesn’t mean I want your secrets. Plus if I was s cook at a non Michelin star restaurant I would rope
7 months ago
Anonymous
you said you were doing it for steak clearly you can't keep up with our own shit, moron
7 months ago
Anonymous
Read again homosexual
I salt my meat to draw water out to get a better mallard reaction. Tell me what fast food chain you work at so i can avoid it. I
7 months ago
Anonymous
you make beef jerky steaks and theyre dry as frick. have a nice day. also im gay LOL!!
7 months ago
Anonymous
Nope dry aged tomahawks for 4days is elegant. Enjoy your gross cookings while me and the other chefs enjoy meat from God
7 months ago
Anonymous
you dry age in SALT??? that's a fricking piece of jerky no matter what cut you use. tell those other chefs they're gays and i dont want their food.
7 months ago
Anonymous
it was already pathetic, now we are getting into truly delusional, just stop jerky anon, you are wrong on every level
7 months ago
Anonymous
>I salt my steak to draw out water
goddamn, you just won't accept how fricking moronic you are eh
Cope moron all this shit is common knowledge but autistic morons will forever stay losing
7 months ago
Anonymous
people wash their chicken with soap, doesnt mean it's good practice.
also >allrecipes.com
LOL!! homecooks will continue killing themselves for trends. remember the botulism olive oil trend? you guys ate that slop up.
7 months ago
Anonymous
yea already said you are not only amatueur you are kinda stupid, I have no desire to try your jerky, wtf? stop going to that website lmao, you really thought that was good advice?
7 months ago
Anonymous
took a break from snorting off my phone in the bathroom to say youre fricking gay LOL! also kill me.
7 months ago
Anonymous
NO YOU DONT
Salt draws out the moisture from the meat. And then you wipe it down to get rid of excess salt.
You can Google this man geez so many people LARP as being able to cook without the very most basic understanding of chemistry
LEEE SALT ABSORB WATER
That’s the ducking point moron I am trying to get a good sear and good crust. Go fricking look up how not to be moronic in the kitchen
7 months ago
Anonymous
the point is to get rid of the moisture on the outside, not absorb the juices on the inside which is exactly what you do if you let your steak sit salted over night. how the frick do you think meat is cured? come on, dude
7 months ago
Anonymous
ok bud, I don't need to look it up but go on keep fricking up your steak
this, stop pre-salting your steak please just stop
you know that salt absorbs moisture, correct? you only want to salt right before you throw the steak on the pan. you let it sit until it reaches room temperature then pat it down with paper towels and it's dry. cast irons are universally shit with uneven heating, reverse searing is a waste of time, avocado oil is overkill, just sear it in clarified butter, basting is a waste of time if you're not going to de glaze and make a pan sauce
salting causes meat to retain more moisture as it cooks
7 months ago
Anonymous
Incorrect
I salt the outside. The salt will absorb alot of moisture and then I rub it off after it’s moist on the outside
salting in a water solution aka brine you would be correct. My chicken is so moist after I brined it for 24 hours
Vs my steak has such a nice crust after dating surface and wiping off the moisture
You can legit observe this phenomenon. Just apply large salt (not grated salt) but large salt crystals like for ice cream to the outside of a steak and come back in 1 hour and see if the salt has drawn out moisture
7 months ago
Anonymous
will you gays get a room already
america has plenty of first gen immigrants cooking auntie's duck piss stew in our major cities if you want that, and we also have hyphenated-american slop, fusion, etc. if you want that so there's no reason to argue
7 months ago
Anonymous
You can't get authentic duck piss though. The lack of authentic food isn't because we lack the recipes, it's because we lack the ingredients. You're never going to get an authentic carbonara in America because we lack authentic guanciale and so on.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>america lacks some ingredients >therefore every single foreign dish here is fake and gay
the binary of the autist
7 months ago
Anonymous
>therefore every single foreign dish here is fake and gay
uh yea it is, lol
7 months ago
Anonymous
again, unless you're willing to walk up to every single first gen immigrant cooking literally the same shit with the same ingredients they would have made at home and tell them their shit is fake then it seems that you have no case.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>same ingredients
It's not. American chicken is a different ingredient from Wuhan wet market chicken.
7 months ago
Anonymous
lol, my tikka chicken is better then any indian i've ever encountered I was flown to india to cook for a very high end indian wedding just because my tikka chicken was that fricking good, yes you have no idea what you are talking about, little old indian moms were fawning over me asking how I did it.
7 months ago
Anonymous
who are you even trying to argue with schizo
7 months ago
Anonymous
you obviously, was that unclear somehow?
7 months ago
Anonymous
yet your post has nothing to do with mine. curious.
7 months ago
Anonymous
eh its late or early depends how you look at it, I replied to the wrong person w/e thats not "curious" its just me being a tad druk
7 months ago
Anonymous
WHAT A LIFE
7 months ago
Anonymous
LOL GERMAN FOOD IS FUKING TRASH lived there and studied for 2 years and it’s nasty. Even Germans just cried kebab shops. Thankfully there was some decent Asian food in köln.
Schnitzel - fried breaded chicken no flavor. Koreans make fried chicken 100x better (and I can get it authentically)
Authentic =/= good. Thai food is evolving constantly due to their huge amalgamation of cultures.
You outed yourself as a dirty kraut go eat a brot that’s your only contribution that and bread/pretzels and beer which Americans have made even better with craft beer
I will admit German bread fricks ours but you can go to small shops and get food quality but that’s annoying
7 months ago
Anonymous
>no flavor because no sugar and grease
way to prove the point made earlier
7 months ago
Anonymous
Mmmm yes I love the sweet tase of half of Mendeleiev board in my mouth. Also abaut euro food. >Slavic cuisine >Greek >Austrian
7 months ago
Anonymous
Greek food is delicious, what are you trying to imply?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Wanted good euro food i gave you examples any question?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Oh wasn't the anon you were conversing with, just skimming the thread. Carry on
7 months ago
Anonymous
Greek food isn’t that good sorry dude. It all has the same white sauce that has the same consistency and taste as cum (don’t ask me how I know)
Also their hair falls into it. Went to Greece not impressed. Rome was a fricking trip Italians MOG entire continent of Europe single handedly (whit peopul dun sea son Dey food)
7 months ago
Anonymous
>redditspacing homosexual compares food to cum
Go back
7 months ago
Anonymous
>and taste as cum (don’t ask me how I know) >American >homosexual
No wonder everyfin that is not semen taste like crap for you.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Greek food is the breasts.
7 months ago
Anonymous
greek food takes a huge sht on anything americans ever invented, sorry dude but europe mogs you in terms of food
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Salads that are only dressed in olive oil and vegetable and only have vegetables instead of being loaded in garbage >Americans hate this
Who would have thought
7 months ago
Anonymous
don't forget flavorful goat cheese instead of plastiic cheddar kek
7 months ago
Anonymous
>compares food to cum
I promise you I could make you a steak that would turn you gay.
I can’t cook many dishes well yet but I use USDA prime (good luck getting that quality for 10$ a steak in euro poor land(
Salt — allow to dry in fridge 24 hours (depending on thickness but I only cook 2inch plus since I can bulk buy at Sams (seethe euro)
High smoke oil or mayo light coat on steak after pat dry
Reverse sear - oven first 15 mins 225 pat dry again.
Cast iron being cast iron to hottest possible while steak is in oven
Sear 30 seconds no longer than 1 minute on each side
Go around edges if cut has fat to render
Finish with butter and baste be quick to not burn butter this is last step (will admit Kerrygold euro butter is better here)
Let rest for 1 - 5 mins and set on WARM plate both important
My taste buds would rape yours
>unironic homosexual steak
can't make this shit up, american "cuisine" is for homosexuals
7 months ago
Anonymous
Diaspora gays are always like that. They are so empty in their life that they autisiticaly vling to any identity. See:Irish americans, or BalkanBlack folk in western countries. They see themselfs like some great partiots that remember their roots but only on some holidays then it comes back to beeing a mystery meat mutt.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Gross dude you’re a fking MAP. Stop posting anime girls and go touch your wife’s (male) dick
Velveeta (doesn't even call itself American cheese) or Kraft slices aren't American cheese. Sliced American cheese from the deli - in FL the common premium brand is Boar's Head - is fricking delicious. Full stop.
>meat is clearly overcooked and borderline charred >American cheese slices >edges of the slices is charred >onions are charred >blatantly obvious frozen fries
I would eat it, but it would probably give me pause for a few seconds. That's not good cooking.
He's clearly got a strong sear on it but when he finishes the burger the juices are still running red; if you've overcooked the burger they'd run clear or not at all.
>putting the cheese on the meat while the meat is still on a hot stove
Please tell me no one actually does this. No one could possibly be that fricking moronic, right?
I cook all my meals because I’m not moronic. But when I do go out I can within 10 mins get —authentic tacos, Korean BBQ, hot pot Japanese style, or BBQ. That’s the power of American cousin enjoy your kebabs euro-food-poor
Seasoning meat is for street shitting indians who cant afford refridgerators and have no way of keeping it fresh. Theres a reason why salt is called a pteservative, it literally makes the meat less fresh so it is edible.
Okay you’re just bait or moronic. Salt makes the crust on my steak so fking good I feel bad for you I would cook for you and I promise I wouldn’t cum in it before serving
>So whats the recipe for perfect "greesy fat american cheeseburger"?
Just Put THE MOST unhealthiest ingedients imaginable, cover it in palm oil, and add some chemical for extra flavour(tm) results will come
this movie is israeli and anti-art >everyone is just pretending to like art and all artists are frauds that subconsciously want to make slop >only the lowest class of human being (e.g. prostitutes) actually know what's up because... because they just do >if you think you like art, you don't and you should die >if you even passively engage with what you consider good you should die
>smashburger with only two patties, not even smashed that hard >virtually no toppings >that dogshit looking cheese
garbage burger
Dude you have not been to America. In most of the cities you can get authentic food from any culture. I can get Lebanese food from people thag don’t speak English and smell. You know what I can’t get? European food because it all sucks wiener and balls. Only Italian like I mentioned. Now go eat some snails or fried fish and potatoes you bloody wanker
Authentic dude pease go to New York or LA and tell me the food is not authentic. LA has Thai food better than most places in Bangkok. Get real and stay mad. Still waiting on your awesome euro cousin (can’t use Italy they are the only decent euro’s making food)
>authentic
I don't want your 3rd world Black person food to be "authentic" because "authentic" means filled with parasites and diseases. THe last "authentic" chinese place I went to almost gave me food poisoning with their cold sewer chicken
real american bbq is better than moronic Black person 3rd world shit, especially "stir fry" wok crap
also the fact that you think italian food is even close to the best european food is hilarious too, lmfao
So whats the recipe for perfect "greesy fat american cheeseburger"?
What meat, what cheese, what additions (pickles only?) what sauces?
>What meat
it honestly doesn't really matter since burgers are poor people food. People will tell you it does but it doesn't, just make sure the patties are all equivalent in weight.
bun doesn't matter either as long as it's tough and toasted enough to not fall apart from the sauce/grease on your burger and the right size that the meat isn't hiding inside lol >what cheese
you CAN use american but it's not that great
cheddar or merkt's cheddar spread is better (if it's not spread make sure it's melted) >what additions
if you're putting bacon on it you can have it with fewer toppings
otherwise >lettuce >onions >tomato >mushrooms >pickles/relish
and other such things
if you're having it with bacon you can drop the lettuce and tomato, and use fried onions instead >what sauces?
ketchup, mayonaisse, mustard, maybe bbq sauce if you're having it with bacon hate me if you want but I occasionally mix them all together with general tso's and/or bang bang sauce
Name it. Outside Italy and Greek it’s all shit. Just cope harder no one is opening up a Norwegian diner here nor a German one nor an English one nor…get the picture moron?
a lot of your shit straight up has european origin you moronic mutt including the burgers you fat israelite worshiping mutts shovel down your throats
7 months ago
Anonymous
My argument exactly. America is the melting pot of all culinary art distilled into something unique but still all seperateo. Best food on the planet because of authenticity and variety
7 months ago
Anonymous
>authenticity
no lmao, you're a simpleton for believing any of that shit is authentic >variety
yes
7 months ago
Anonymous
Definitely is but you need to find a city with high population of what you’re looking for. Miami has authentic Cuban food and if you disagree you’re objectively wrong.
>this much projection
lmao read the rest of my post
I'm an american moron, tired of you coastie homosexuals talking about authentic food when literally all the best sushi here are the rolls invented in america for americans >euro food is trash
you've never been to europe lol
the european food here moggs all the "authentic" third world Black person food too, at least when it comes to sit-down places
tacquerias are good but only on-par with the white-owned burger or chicken places
is just pretending to like art and all artists are frauds that subconsciously want to make slop
that part is half true. People only pretend to like art, but the frauds that make it just want clout and prestige, very few of them have an actual creative urge or they would exercise it >>only the lowest class of human being (e.g. prostitutes) actually know what's up because... because they just do
also true, but rendered laughable considering they cast the worst actress imaginable to portray an unpretentious normal person. b***h doesn't even look like she could pass for human >>if you think you like art, you don't and you should die
true, anything that can't be described more specifically than 'art' is trash and if you are the kind of person who needs to pretend to enjoy it, the world would be a better place without you >>if you even passively engage with what you consider good you should die
you couldn't think of enough greentext lines so you added this one as filler, it's a meaningless statement
Not engaging with you, you're israeli and anti-white
Yes I have been. Italy is the only decent cuisine I guess Greek if you like hair in all your salads
You’re not an American you’re a homosexual. Even the euro trash have better insight than you moron. Leee sushi is best. It’s raw fricking shit I can make it with 0 skill and it taste the exact same way. Muhhhh mouth feel much presentation. Go get some tuna and cook some rice there 99% of sushi rolls go have a nice day weeb loving gayboy
is just pretending to like art and all artists are frauds that subconsciously want to make slop
that part is half true. People only pretend to like art, but the frauds that make it just want clout and prestige, very few of them have an actual creative urge or they would exercise it >>only the lowest class of human being (e.g. prostitutes) actually know what's up because... because they just do
also true, but rendered laughable considering they cast the worst actress imaginable to portray an unpretentious normal person. b***h doesn't even look like she could pass for human >>if you think you like art, you don't and you should die
true, anything that can't be described more specifically than 'art' is trash and if you are the kind of person who needs to pretend to enjoy it, the world would be a better place without you >>if you even passively engage with what you consider good you should die
you couldn't think of enough greentext lines so you added this one as filler, it's a meaningless statement
Ironically the most pretentious part of the movie. People who know nothing about culinary arts that are writing, directing and acting to portray high cuisine as pretentious and a burger as true righteous food. They think a fricking cheeseburger is what truly makes artistically driven chefs happy and fulfilled. It’s unbearably pretentious
Artistically driven poeple, especially chefs, are some of the hardest working people in the world. Someone who knows nothing about cooking calling it pretentious is in itself extremely pretentious
I think physical labor (of any kind) is actually harder than being a narcissistic drug addict with shitty tattoos overreacting to someone ordering a grilled cheese.
The work required to become a chef of high standing is enormous, routinely working triple what a labourer would do. Being a chef is a notoriously strenuous job
Have you ever had a real job? Trying being low man as a plumber or concrete worker, frick, even garbage collectors.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah… shifts and no responsibility sounds real hard. That’s why they’re all athletes. I’m not saying they’re easy, but driven chefs put way more work in and its also physically demanding
7 months ago
Anonymous
not as physically demanding as tiling a roof in the summer
7 months ago
Anonymous
Not all places on earth have horrible summers, and most kitchens are hotter than a summer roof
7 months ago
Anonymous
>chef burns a dish >customer gets upset
>concrete laborer fricks up a pour >Bridge collapse, 50 are killed
Yeah, no real responsibility there
7 months ago
Anonymous
>idiot druggie not watched over by real chef fricks up order >kills customer with food posioning
uh huh
I'll tell you a real story I knew a californian guy who was japanese grew up in that state, he did ok their and then tried to opened a restaurant in aus melb, his sushi was pretty brilliant really damn good stuff also amazing presentation, he had been running for 6 months, one day he catered to a school faculty all the teachers, very high end private school the guy also had a food truck, he didn't really understand 40+ degree weather we get in summer, he fricked up his rice went bad in the heat and he poisoned the entire faculty not only did he ruin any chance of his business working, he got sued of course 2 teachers nearly died all of them were hospitilized and he was deported, lost everything, because the dumb frick didn't understand that leaving rice out in 40 degree heat with raw fish was a bad fricking idea. literally over a million lost and lives ruined in a single afternoon
7 months ago
Anonymous
i've worked as a concrete pourer, now that shit is insane, you ever poured a pool? absolutely mental, thats the only job I coudl equate to doing what I do
No, you dumbass. Cooking for art killed him inside. A simple meal he cooked at his first job reminded him of why he tried to perfect his craft in the first place. Frick you. It would've been anything. Cheeseburger jobs are very common though, and it's an iconic food to americans. So, frick you.
Yikes post. Nothing is stopping him from still cooking burgers or casual foods. Most upscale places have a casual restaurant attatched to them where the chef can scratch both itches professionally, sounds like he was just a bad organizer and businessman.
>sounds like he was just a bad organizer and businessman.
uh yea that was also in the movie, he was he pursued a dream of only cooking the greatest quality ever and found it hollow
He was! Everything thing you said was correct! He's a moronic antagonist! He doesn't have to be a fricking stand-in for every single working member of the culinary high-arts. Fricking Christ! You're a yikes post! Learn to watch movies again without the global commentary whitenoise interfering with everything you're seeing.
You’re justifying the pretentious unrealistic story with the internal motivation of an equally pretentious and unrealistic character. My point being a person like that wouldn’t require cooking a cheeseburger to remember why they worked 100 hours this week, let alone why they loved cooking.
Eating cheeseburgers and cooking them 12 hours a day are very very different. No one in their right mind would enjoy it if they actually knew what it was like
This one single individual happened to become so self-obsessed that, for him, cooking a cheeseburger WAS a reminder why they loved cooking. Fricking hell. They explain this in the movie.
did you miss that he and his staff had, had a complete mental breakdown? also its a satire jfc
Nah it’s reverse pretentiousness. All artists that achieve greatness are quite mad, they throw their lives away to achieve greatness. It’s extremely pretentious to write cooking a cheeseburger as a revelatory moment like that, only a person who has never cooked a professional meal in their life could write this, and THAT is a pretentious. Had they simply satirised the over-the-top high cuisine that would have worked, but the moment they suggest a cheeseburger as the antithesis to pretentiousness, is the moment the film disappears up its own colon
>and THAT is a pretentious.
Oh, you're moronic. I didn't realize it when we started this conversation.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>reverse pretentious
oh sorry didn't realize your an idiot
>pretentious: attempting to impress by affecting greater importance or merit than is actually possessed >cooking a cheeseburger can make a professional chef reevaluate their motivations beyond what they already know
It’s typical gay Hollywood hamfisted pretentiousness. Again I say, not a chef in the entire world has ever gotten anything out of making a cheeseburger except a greasy apron
7 months ago
Anonymous
>I speak for all chefs and cooks around the word
your neurosis is no-ones problem but your own
7 months ago
Anonymous
I simply did what the films’s writers did, which is provide a realistic take on the revelations of cooking a cheeseburger :^)
7 months ago
Anonymous
lol you really didn't get the movie at all did you?
Couldn't agree more. I had the same issue in Pig when he went to that upscale restaurant concept, and he portrayed all 7 to 9 course chef tasting concepts as pretentious and conceited, and then mocks him for none of it "being real". I do not deny that there are pretentious concepts like that, maybe 10 Madison or something would fit that bill. But most of them are not, and what you are paying for is a chefs knowledge and expertise in crafting an unforgettable experience you simply cannot get anywhere else. You are paying for their artistry. A place like Canlis, Little Pearl, or Fat Snook has given that to me, and they are designed to go there once a year for special occasions, and I feel bad for anyone who not only has never experienced that, but judges it.
you completely misunderstood that scene, he could cook at that level, the idiot could not thats why he was saying why didn't you just open your own pub? you can't do this right
>the idiot could not
No, he obviously could, since he was making a complicated seawood foam and scallop dish. Cage never bashes him for the food being bad, he bashes him for not pursuing his previous dream. What the scene fails to realize is that dreams, and passions change. Who is Cage to tell that man that the young pasta cook who used to work for him, still held the same dreams and beliefs he did back then? And again, there is no reason he can't run an upscale concept, and a pub at the same time. Most restaurant groups have upscale and casual in their restaurant portfolio, and if he's running a popular upscale joint, he must be in a redtaurant group. It was bad writing, my least favorite scene in the movie. It was pretentious on behalf of the writers to assume so much.
and he was bad at it and not making the dishes right, the pretentious idiots paying for that didn't know because they really had no idea what the dish made right would taste like, however the idiot did and just pretended it was ok even though he knoew he couldn't do it right thats why nick eviserated him like that, he wasn't confident in the shit he was serving and kept telling himself >this is what people ant its a successful restaurant
seriously how did you not get that?
You're making assumptions that aren't true, just like Nic cage did. Your whole reply was just what Cage said to him, but the movie doesn't show or protray any of that. They tried to frame Nic Cage's character as some sage man of simplicity but he was the most judgemental and pretentious person in the whole movie.
7 months ago
Anonymous
he didn't make assumptions he tasted what the chef was serving first and found it wanting, you really didn't any attention at all did you?
Nothing about it was pretentious, every experience at those places I went to I will remember forever. It wasn't just the food, it was the atmosphere of enjoyment and celebration from everyone in the restaurant, the amiable and genuine service, and sharing unique and delicious food and wine with people I love. You sound so, so bitter. Maybe one day, you'll understand.
now imagine if the food was actually cooked correctly how much better that would've been
7 months ago
Anonymous
He didn't say the food was wanting. Here's a transcript od their conversation:
This is the kind of cooking you like?
It’s cutting-edge, it’s very exciting.
Exciting.
Uh, I mean, everybody loves it.
You like cooking it?
Absolutely.
Derek, what was it you always used to talk about opening?
Wasn’t it a pub?
Every-everyone loves it here.
It’s a… this is a huge success.
Why didn’t you open your pub?
I… I don’t… I don’t know that I… I really wanted, uh, I mean… I mean, it’s such… that was such a long time ago.
When I fired you, I asked you what you wanted to do.
You said you have a few rooms upstairs, a real English pub.
That… did I… I say that?
Yes.
Nobody wants pubs around here.
It’s a… that’s-that’s-that’s a terrible investment.
What was going to be your signature dish?
Liver scotch eggs with a honey curry mustard.
- then he goes on to mock him and say none of it is real. I did watch the scene, and he never says the food was wanting. He was just making the assesment that the chef was fake and not wanting any of it.
7 months ago
Anonymous
format your fricking posts reddit, insta-hide seeing all that space
7 months ago
Anonymous
I simply provided you a documentary proof to the contrary. I'll accept your taking issue with my format being 'reddit' as a concession and apology for having misinterpreted the scene.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I love the scene, I'm saying you need to shrink that down into a greentext next time. Redditboy.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I copy and pasted it from another website. I was not going to take the time to add greentext formatting for some one who I already knew did not understand the scene like he claimed to. You, not me, either unintentionally misunderstood the scene, or doubled down on your lie once you were caught in it. And now you're making ad hominem attacks when I don't use reddit. People like you, who lie and attack others instead of habing civil and adult-like conversations, are the problem with this site.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not OP. Why would I automatically HAVE to be OP? Have you ever used this website in your life? Jesus fricking christ. I've been arguing for the scene this entire thread. I've been dunking on the cooklets for not understanding how to caramelize onions because they're pussies. Why do you insist on me being the moronic OP and his defenders? Please, sir, we are on the same side here. You're reddit as frick and you cannot post without being reddit. Stop while you're ahead.
7 months ago
Anonymous
yep correct I was the anon you were replying to btw, also before that he did test the dish, and clearly found it lacking infact the look on nicks face could only be characterized as disappointment
format your fricking posts reddit, insta-hide seeing all that space
he said it was a transcript, its not reddit spacing in this particular instance
this homie's actually paid hundreds of dollars for some pretentious millennial who unironically liked anthony bourdain to put a spoonful of brown rice on a plate and smear some sauces around it
Nothing about it was pretentious, every experience at those places I went to I will remember forever. It wasn't just the food, it was the atmosphere of enjoyment and celebration from everyone in the restaurant, the amiable and genuine service, and sharing unique and delicious food and wine with people I love. You sound so, so bitter. Maybe one day, you'll understand.
Rice is generally a cheap filler food at low quality restaurants, most upscale tasting menu joints don't use rice. No where I ate had rice in any of the courses.
7 months ago
Anonymous
yes I know, they use shitty rice replacements for the poorest people in asia instead, and charge a ludicrous amount for it
7 months ago
Anonymous
If you're going to.mock tasting menu joints, do it properly: everyone uses local ingredients at those restaurants, not imported.
When Nic Cage's character in Pig says "None of this is real", he's specifically referring to the rat race of attempting to run a high end restaurant at the behest of trends and food critics, and abandoning the dreams you used to have, specifically because he's talking to an old student of his who he knew for a fact dreamed of opening a pub and serving greasy food. He's telling him that life's too precious to care about chasing prestige above all else, which is why he moved out in the woods to begin with. He's not calling modern cooking a sham, but rather saying that it's an artifice that you can choose to leave
a mcdonalds cheeseburger will be like 50% of this "experience." a really good meal from like kfc will be 90%, a dine in restaurant 100% the experience exists only in your ego larp and yeah it is pretentious. "uhh yea i spend 500 for my artisan steak" ive been to these high end artistry larp restaurants they taste the same it only feels different cuz ur ego jerking off yourself the whole time. the menu is about ego death and him blowing up himself and the other rich people's egos (via s'more degradation) so that they could be authentic and stop larping over nonsense.
good luck bro, hope you dont get robbed at gunpoint. look into a quick-release button for your truck that shuts it down if you're in a bad position. they save lives.
When they did the whole 'oh the guys will play hide and seek part' was when I 100% mentally checked out of this film. Given that opportunity, every single guy there should've just ran into the woods, banded together, picked up a rock, and then collectively bashed in the fricking brains of whoever came after them. So stupid. A woman or homosexual moron wrote this movie.
It's my real life experience. I watched what happened at a very rich wedding when a vape pen exploded in a waiter's pocket. It was like Lord of the Flies on crack. Every single man and women for themselves.
It sounded like a bomb went off. Grown men launching themselves out of their seat and hauling ass while their families struggled to rush in the general direction of the crowd. It 100% destroyed the evening and the dancefloor was the cringiest shit in the world once they got everyone back inside.
Why are chefs so beautiful? I've never seen an ugly chef. Even the less symmetrical ones have this air about them that is just so incredibly attractive. I just don't get it. Is it knowing what they provide that tricks my brain into wanting to lock that down?
It's hilarious how threads on Cinemaphile about the bear are filled with anons seething about people taking cooking too seriously and threads on Cinemaphile about the menu are filled with anons seething about caramelized onions.
Are you the grifter "chef" who fakes caramelized onions and STILL seething about being called out on it?
It's okay anon, we can't all be real cooks. I understand you work in a kitchen and have to take shortcuts to succeed in tricking rich snobs out of their money because they have the patience and self-control of toddlers.
It's not seething to point out that caramelizing the sugars inside of onions is not the same thing as caramelizing some brown sugar on to the exterior of onions. I'm not the one stupid enough to pay for your fake cooking
it's certainly more acceptable than sweetening onions with sugar, coloring them with balsamic vinegar, and calling them caramelized onions knowing that your moronic customers will eat up whatever slop you serve them and call it manna from heaven just because it's so overpriced
I can get real caramelized onions in about 20 minutes in the pan if I don't care about getting some burnt bits - and I usually don't, burnt onions taste perfectly fine.
I'm one of the anons who knows how to properly caramelize onions but this irony wasn't lost on me. I was expecting that chefjak to be posted next to a quote of one of my comments at any time.
this movie was fricking god awful trash. the film equivalent of a 10 paragraph long reddit post tirade about some gay bullshit nobody cares about, that goes on and on and on and ultimately says nothing
The thing about cooking is that most people do it, which makes it different from e.g. roofing or policing. You can chime in on stealth Cinemaphile thread without professional experience.
>you don't get the point you moronic homosexual do you? your shit is NOT authentic. every exotic cuisine especialy in america has to change their recipe to appeal to the locals. your country runs on sugar and grease, if you ever had to actualy eat authetic foraign healthy food you would get the shits because your body can't figure out where the grease and sugar in in the meal you just ate >>LOL GERMAN FOOD IS FUKING TRASH >yeah it's trash when you haven't consumed anything but sugar and grease your whole life. your country is unironicaly consuming PLASTIC cheese. that's like some homosexual who only watches adam sandler comdies lecturing people on comedy, get a fricking grip you fat ugly mutt
"Authentic" food is a myth, ingredients are always changing.
Virtually every cuisine in the world uses New World ingredients in their """traditional""" recipes (tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, etc)
As much as non-American homosexuals love to pretend Nana's special meatcake has been in the family for a million generations, if you really went back more than a century you'd find the food of your country or culture to be unrecognizable. Bitter pill to swallow, I know.
Another extremely bitter pill - sometimes hybridized foods resulting from migration or cultural synthesis result in better dishes than the "traditional" version. Example - I don't like the "original" Chinese black bean noodles from Shandong and vastly prefer the Korean-Chinese version. The Korean version is probably over 100 years old at this point, who gets to say that it's not "traditional" or "authentic?" Go back far enough and no food would end up being "authentic."
i'm looking it up to see if this guy had any truth to what he's saying and it does appear to be some sort of argument for salting your steak for 24 hours. we'll see, i'll give it a try. i honestly don't see how much better i can get a sear and how much crispier i can get my duck skin with this technique
nom
>burns your onions
>burns your cheese
>caramelizes your onions
>sears your cheese to perfection
ftfy
>Caramelize onions in 2 minutes
Impossible. They're burnt.
you think you are seeing it in real time? its takes more then 30secs to cook a pattie dumb dumb
That's why I said two minutes, moron. It takes at least an hour to caramelize onions.
lmao, holy shit no mate ffs, an hour? what the frick, you are doing everything wrong what this anon said
if done right it chars lightly caramelizes and is delicious, also no onion takes an hour to fully caramelize thats mental
Browned onions are not caramelized onions, you fricking cooklets.
no caramelized
>an hour
lmao, I'm a chef mate
I realized that if you know anything about the culinary arts, you will be rejected by the unwashed masses.
aye
It is physically impossible to caranelize onions in 8 minutes.
>I'm a chef
Yeah just a medium fry, thanks. And no ice in the drink.
no its very easy you have no idea what you are doing, also brown sugar and a little balsamic in a pan, if you pay attention 5mins on high heat
YWNBAC
tell me where you work so i can never eat there in my life. i dont want to wait an hour for my food.
>Doesn't know what a prep cook is
Thanks for confirming you're not a chef. You're not cut out for the kitchen.
LOL! If you think I didn't extrapolate you being afraid of high-heat from taking longer than 5min to caramelize some onions, I don't know what to tell you. I'm glad you're having so much fun learning all the positions of the kitchen.
lol so butthurt, you would cream yourself over some broccoli i made in 5 mins
No, I've had better
>making caramelized onions is easy if you just add sugar and caramelize that on to the onion instead
literally dishonest cooking
its time to stop posting cooklet
kek 'chefs' are pathetic, learn to cook properly instead of trying to trick idiots out of their money as efficiently as possible.
>learn to cook properly
take those words to heart because you are clueless
You think you can't prep caramelized onions.
So you reply to a different anon instead of the other one who BTFO'd you?
Typical cooklet. Enjoy working for minimum wage at the bottom tier of your industry for the rest of your life. You will never be able to handle the heat if you can't prep onions on the fly within 5min.
I am not arguing with you for the same reason I do not argue with people who continue to insist that objects fall up. Onions can't be caramelized in 7 minutes. Heat is not a linear quantity where doubling the heat halves the cook time.
he's already admitted that he just fakes it by putting sugar and vinegar in to the pan and caramelizing it on to the undercooked onions, something which CAN be done in a few minutes. It's honestly sad that he has to come in and scream about being the real chef here, maybe someday he'll manage to convince himself it's true.
It is true and I am more based than you. Sorry you can't cook. Hopefully you don't keep everyone waiting too long next time you try.
you never told me how much concentrate you add to stock btw
Go ask your sous chef homosexual
lol if you can't caramelize onions in 5mins on the fly you will never make it, I said I can do large bulk caramelized w/e I want cope and seeth
of course, huh? and lower scale restaurants we do it in advance big trays 3-4 kg each in the oven, at more upscale places you do it on the spot
How much concentrate do you add to your stocks, ""proper"" """"""""chef"""""""?
caramelisation is a component of browning. we generally call onions 'caramelised' when they have reached a certain state of cooked, they're broken down and caramelisation has penetrated beyond the cut surface of the onions, but the reality is they undergo some 'caramelisation' very quickly as the sugars near the surface are exposed to heat.
>put onions in pan
>add little bit of water and sugar
>cook until they're brown (7-8 minutes)
>???
Did you forget to turn on the stove or something?
I just laughed for the first time in a week. Based post. I dont want to go in today bros. I want it to be Monday again.
Just go homie. Itll be monday before you know it.
if you don't I'll be lowkey mean to you rest of the week
FRICK!
your cleaning out the salad bar deep clean next arvo if you do
I'm so glad we don't have salad bars or anything I'd have to clean on the floor, but I'm sure that homosexual garmo is gonna be happy to see me scrubbing his fridge down. Little homosexual. No heat in those garmo c**ts. FRICK!!!!!
make sure you scrub down the corners, you always miss that shit you slacker
retail/office workers will never know this pain. no sick day goes unnoticed. everyone feels it, and they want revenge every time.
I've cooked raw onions like that on burgers before. They don't burn because the fat and moisture from the meat prevents them from charing. It's tasty, try it.
This, but I hate it. Mcdonalds does that shit nowadays, at least in austria.
I prefer them completely raw.
Based raw onion enjoyer. I prefer the cronch and the eyewatering sting
I love raw onion on burgers. But as I've gotten older, raw onion makes my tummy hurt. I have to cook my burger onions now 🙁
>raw onion makes my tummy hurt
No food is worth this kind of suffering.
I've heard that if you soak sliced onion in cold water for a few minutes it prevents the stomach upset, but I haven't tried it yet.
Good food is not for the weak
~t. horseradish enjoyer
Mcdonalds microwaves everything what are you talking about lmao
that's Burger King and they haven't done this in quite a few years
>american cheese
Never fails to make me kek
it is quite the experience
it is literally perfect for a cheese burger for the exact reasons stated, also it adds flavor while not overwhelming the rest of the flavors, if you ever use chedder or something stronger you are doing it wrong
>four slices
extra slices does nothing to detract from the taste of the meat, thats one of the many reasons its perfect for this exact kind of burger
Blue Cheese and Feta are both superior
a strong blue lightly crumbled as the pattie is almost done is amazing however thats not the right taste for a classic cheese burger, now try this turkey brie and cranberry, american cheese is still perfect for a classic, which is what he promised to make her
>American cheese is perfect for a classic
This. But always use a good quality American cheese.
well yea obviously you can't use cheap shit
>good quality American cheese.
Contradiction in terms. Like American chocolate, it means low quality.
Wrong. Americans are based. Everywhere else is trash. The french cant cook.
I like to mix blue cheese into the ground beef with an equal part of real bacon bits.
Where do you even get “high-end” American cheese? Kraft Singles are the only name brand of the stuff I can think of.
Well, the best high-end American cheese is locally sourced from America.
Interesting, I’ll try asking about it next time I visit a good upscale supermarket. Never realized American cheese existed outside of the crap that doesn’t actually qualify as cheese.
>Where do you even get “high-end” American cheese?
at the actual cheese counter in your grocery store, not the aisle full of vacuum packed kraft dairy product not legally allowed to be called cheese
you get it from your suppliers, idk where you'd get it in a supermarket, you order it from your supplier
i've never seen proper american cheese in a supermarket i have no idea I order it in bulk and yes I already replied to you here
just trying to clarify
thats utter shit btw, almost a plastic cheese, thats not good quality merican cheese
You can make it yourself. It's basically just stuff like cheddar melted down in milk with some emulsifier. It's very easy.
Swiss is also acceptable
how do you know it is not cheddar?
cause it’s not orange
Cheddar does not melt in remotely the same way that American cheese melts. Anyone with eyes can tell the difference. You're also a dumb b***h if you put cheddar on a burger
Are you a moronic moron that doesn't understand how to make a good cheeseburger or something?
morons didn't watch the movie and don't understand he's intentionally making the cheapest most greasy and unhealthy all-American burger he can because the customer asked for it, and it finally gave him passion for cooking once again, which the fancy gourmet dishes never did.
exactly which has already been explained iit multiple times but for some reason it really triggers the cooklets
they don't care about the movie the whole thread is a bunch of virgins attempt to goad each other
>i made it bad on purpose
Burgermutts seething
European food is shit with the exception of Italian food. Only good food in Europe is the dirty Muslims who open kebab shops that actually season dey food. Name one European dish that America / Asia / rest of the world doesn’t absolutely ass frick in terms of flavor
you are moronic, but that comes with being an american israelite worshiping subhuman. keep shoving down bastardized american versions of european food and your shitty burgers with fake plastic cheese while pretending you know what good food is and what isn't
Cope more. Guess you can’t name any. Go eat your dead seal fermented in ice you euro gays can only hope to have BBQ that makes me fun cum in my pants
american food can be sumorized with 3 things:
>european but worse
like taking something wich was good and had soul and turn it into litteral slop like deep dish pizza
>heart attack before age 40
comes from all the grease and plastic in your shit food
>as big as an americans ego
gotta make up with quantity when the quality is shit
> Guess you can’t name any
the shit i just posted mogs anything americans ever invented while being actualy healthy
> BBQ that makes me fun cum in my pants
immidetaly starts to cum in his pants over the thought of litteral unhealthy slop, can't make this shit up. you are a walking stereotype of a dumb mutt
Dude you have not been to America. In most of the cities you can get authentic food from any culture. I can get Lebanese food from people thag don’t speak English and smell. You know what I can’t get? European food because it all sucks wiener and balls. Only Italian like I mentioned. Now go eat some snails or fried fish and potatoes you bloody wanker
>authentic
lmao thats were you are making your mistake
>Dude you have not been to America. In most of the cities you can get authentic food from any culture
>he unironicaly thinks his slop is authentic
holy frick mutts are low iq, also keep it down you may get a heart attack from al the slop your fatass shovels down. you are not qualified to say what food is good and what isn't because your taste buds have been raped from all the sugar and grease in your slop you call shamelessly "food"
Authentic dude pease go to New York or LA and tell me the food is not authentic. LA has Thai food better than most places in Bangkok. Get real and stay mad. Still waiting on your awesome euro cousin (can’t use Italy they are the only decent euro’s making food)
>Authentic dude pease go to New York or LA and tell me the food is not authentic.
itÄs not you moronic homosexual, they have to add a shit ton of sugar and other trash because of your subhuman tastebuds
>LA has Thai food better than most places in Bangkok
>it's authentic
>no wait it's even better
low iq mutt brain
>Still waiting on your awesome euro cousin
schnitzel and rinderroulade or hackbraten are not only healthier than your greasy slop but tsate better aswell, kys and don't forget to tip your local israelite before you do
>goes to big american city
>gets food delivered from some chain instead of going to one of the thousands of authentic places because he's a bugman terrified of human contact and doesn't want to have to not tip in person
>blames america
you don't get the point you moronic homosexual do you? your shit is NOT authentic. every exotic cuisine especialy in america has to change their recipe to appeal to the locals. your country runs on sugar and grease, if you ever had to actualy eat authetic foraign healthy food you would get the shits because your body can't figure out where the grease and sugar in in the meal you just ate
>LOL GERMAN FOOD IS FUKING TRASH
yeah it's trash when you haven't consumed anything but sugar and grease your whole life. your country is unironicaly consuming PLASTIC cheese. that's like some homosexual who only watches adam sandler comdies lecturing people on comedy, get a fricking grip you fat ugly mutt
Stay mad. 0 German places that are popular in any American city. Plenty of Thai, Korean, Italian, even Greek.
No German places because German food sucks
We have the option to cook our own food or go legit eat from people that grow their own stuff. Every good Thai restraunt worker grows most of the shit they need so I don’t know what you’re on about. Don’t need to change recipe unless you’re going for profit like shorty Chinese places. But you can get good China food dim sum etc in big cities.
American is melting pot that has made an amalgam of all cousins to create the best / most choices / delicious places on this planet. There’s a reason most high dining is in America.
Go eat snails in frog land and a baguette
we already made the point that your tastebuds are ruined due to sugar/grease intake since childhood, many of you homosexuals haven't even ever touched a fruit (see asmongold) you can't argue what food is good and what isn't simply on the basis that you never actualy ate anything but sugared grease in your whole life. now go kys mutt
I promise you I could make you a steak that would turn you gay.
I can’t cook many dishes well yet but I use USDA prime (good luck getting that quality for 10$ a steak in euro poor land(
Salt — allow to dry in fridge 24 hours (depending on thickness but I only cook 2inch plus since I can bulk buy at Sams (seethe euro)
High smoke oil or mayo light coat on steak after pat dry
Reverse sear - oven first 15 mins 225 pat dry again.
Cast iron being cast iron to hottest possible while steak is in oven
Sear 30 seconds no longer than 1 minute on each side
Go around edges if cut has fat to render
Finish with butter and baste be quick to not burn butter this is last step (will admit Kerrygold euro butter is better here)
Let rest for 1 - 5 mins and set on WARM plate both important
My taste buds would rape yours
>I promise you I could make you a steak that would turn you gay.
your steak is so bad it turns you into a homosexual? explains why you sound like one
>My taste buds would rape yours
my taste buds aren't into homosexual shit sorry, but i am going to sit out your gay-steak bro lmao
Nice cum back. Seethe homosexual go eat your euro slop and don’t ever step to America again (or we will stop funding nato and let daddy Putin inside your hole)
soak it in a combo of good quality melted ghee add fresh cracked black pepper no salt leave for 20 mins before cooking, otherwise not bad,m if no gee use good oil DO NOT USE BUTTER, until frying
Black pepper burns on my cast iron and makes a bitter taste similar to butter I add both afterwards or at the last 10 secs of a sear
I soak in salt to draw water out to give a better crust to sear
Idk ghee can’t compete with mayo or avacado oil I want high smoke on a pan sear to avoid making the entire house Smokey
no no, the pepper properly applied should not burn, also no fricking salt tahts drawing the mostire out of the steak leave that till later, ffs, some garlic cloves stuck into the steak some very tiny ones not crushed just cut and stuck into the steak, why are you trying to draw salt out of your steak by blanching it? stop adding salt, the sear comes from the butter then oil
No it doesn’t look of mallard reaction. Plus this is how they cook it in very high scale places. Look up dry aged beef and cost.
Pepper does burn on a hot cast iron you’re moronic
Garlic is done after the steak and pan deglazed usually with some onions I have in the oven and I set my steak on the bed of clovers and onions not instead like a moron
>pepper does burn
sure if your a moron about it thats why a mix of ghee and black pepper is paramount, neither burns, garlic does char and burn a little thats ok
>look up dry aged beef
mother fricker what? I am paid vast amounts of cash to do this just pay attention and stop pretending you know what you are talking about, just take in the information try it you will clearly be surprised at the results
>ghee can’t compete with mayo or avacado oil
in addition this makes me sad and disgusted on a visceral level, do better.
you know that salt absorbs moisture, correct? you only want to salt right before you throw the steak on the pan. you let it sit until it reaches room temperature then pat it down with paper towels and it's dry. cast irons are universally shit with uneven heating, reverse searing is a waste of time, avocado oil is overkill, just sear it in clarified butter, basting is a waste of time if you're not going to de glaze and make a pan sauce
>you know that salt absorbs moisture, correct?
tell us more, mr dunning-kruger
have a nice day, redditor. nobody salts their steak overnight. it doesn't dry the steak it absorbs moisture out of the steak
this, stop pre-salting your steak please just stop
Nope go look up “should I brine my t chicken / turkey overnight”
Salting meat over time is the most classic way to preserve and flavor people
Have been cooking like this for thousands of years go read a book zoom zoom
But I usually only do it 4 hours or less but depends on thickness of meat. You probably only cook with thin poor people steak but some meat is like 4+ inches a lot of tomahawks need a while to de moisturize
ok bud, I don't need to look it up but go on keep fricking up your steak
Lol bet you don’t salt brine your turkey is probably shit (you have no family)
It’s how you get flavor to penetrate cell walls think of salt like the Trojan horse and the castle as your tight boy hole
My Trojan horsey can enter your little gay spot because of salt
It’s so basic that I’m worried for your. Dangerous having morons on the internet. Keep yourself safe
oh, i get it. you're reading directly from those seriouseats articles published a few months ago. it's all youtube cook horse shit
also we don't need to preserve our meat their are much better ways to cook fresh meat, get it? no of course you don't
Not to get a solid crust which is the best part of a steak and then the insides still red like your mother’s used teets after she brought you into this world
you don't have any idea what you are talking about, yep I got it, and more then that you refuse to take on advice that will make your steak so much better but w/e you do you I guess
First result in google:
https://thesteakcoach.com/how-to-properly-salt-a-steak-the-dos-and-donts-of-salting-your-steak/
Stay mad & wrong manlet
ok buddy I am paid to do this, you looked it up on google and are soaking your steak in saltwater over night aka brine, you just keep on keeping on. why not try our suggestions at least once? just once? you might be surprised
you're paid to pretend to know how to cook on Cinemaphile?
lol keep ruining your steak do as you will, why not accept advice from professional chefs? is it just arrogance? moronation not sure, tried to help you out but you clearly think the
>first result on google
is the right way to go, so go on, keep making dry over salted shitty steaks I guess, enjoy
You can’t comprehend reading
Salt brine is for LARGE meat like a whole chicken Turkey
I am salting the outside of thick meat for 2-4 hours depending on thickness so I can get a good crust on my pan seared cast iron
Maybe you suck dick for money doesn’t mean I want your secrets. Plus if I was s cook at a non Michelin star restaurant I would rope
you said you were doing it for steak clearly you can't keep up with our own shit, moron
Read again homosexual
I salt my meat to draw water out to get a better mallard reaction. Tell me what fast food chain you work at so i can avoid it. I
you make beef jerky steaks and theyre dry as frick. have a nice day. also im gay LOL!!
Nope dry aged tomahawks for 4days is elegant. Enjoy your gross cookings while me and the other chefs enjoy meat from God
you dry age in SALT??? that's a fricking piece of jerky no matter what cut you use. tell those other chefs they're gays and i dont want their food.
it was already pathetic, now we are getting into truly delusional, just stop jerky anon, you are wrong on every level
>I salt my steak to draw out water
goddamn, you just won't accept how fricking moronic you are eh
https://www.allrecipes.com/article/why-salt-meat-in-advance/
Cope moron all this shit is common knowledge but autistic morons will forever stay losing
people wash their chicken with soap, doesnt mean it's good practice.
also
>allrecipes.com
LOL!! homecooks will continue killing themselves for trends. remember the botulism olive oil trend? you guys ate that slop up.
yea already said you are not only amatueur you are kinda stupid, I have no desire to try your jerky, wtf? stop going to that website lmao, you really thought that was good advice?
took a break from snorting off my phone in the bathroom to say youre fricking gay LOL! also kill me.
NO YOU DONT
Salt draws out the moisture from the meat. And then you wipe it down to get rid of excess salt.
You can Google this man geez so many people LARP as being able to cook without the very most basic understanding of chemistry
LEEE SALT ABSORB WATER
That’s the ducking point moron I am trying to get a good sear and good crust. Go fricking look up how not to be moronic in the kitchen
the point is to get rid of the moisture on the outside, not absorb the juices on the inside which is exactly what you do if you let your steak sit salted over night. how the frick do you think meat is cured? come on, dude
salting causes meat to retain more moisture as it cooks
Incorrect
I salt the outside. The salt will absorb alot of moisture and then I rub it off after it’s moist on the outside
salting in a water solution aka brine you would be correct. My chicken is so moist after I brined it for 24 hours
Vs my steak has such a nice crust after dating surface and wiping off the moisture
You can legit observe this phenomenon. Just apply large salt (not grated salt) but large salt crystals like for ice cream to the outside of a steak and come back in 1 hour and see if the salt has drawn out moisture
will you gays get a room already
america has plenty of first gen immigrants cooking auntie's duck piss stew in our major cities if you want that, and we also have hyphenated-american slop, fusion, etc. if you want that so there's no reason to argue
You can't get authentic duck piss though. The lack of authentic food isn't because we lack the recipes, it's because we lack the ingredients. You're never going to get an authentic carbonara in America because we lack authentic guanciale and so on.
>america lacks some ingredients
>therefore every single foreign dish here is fake and gay
the binary of the autist
>therefore every single foreign dish here is fake and gay
uh yea it is, lol
again, unless you're willing to walk up to every single first gen immigrant cooking literally the same shit with the same ingredients they would have made at home and tell them their shit is fake then it seems that you have no case.
>same ingredients
It's not. American chicken is a different ingredient from Wuhan wet market chicken.
lol, my tikka chicken is better then any indian i've ever encountered I was flown to india to cook for a very high end indian wedding just because my tikka chicken was that fricking good, yes you have no idea what you are talking about, little old indian moms were fawning over me asking how I did it.
who are you even trying to argue with schizo
you obviously, was that unclear somehow?
yet your post has nothing to do with mine. curious.
eh its late or early depends how you look at it, I replied to the wrong person w/e thats not "curious" its just me being a tad druk
WHAT A LIFE
LOL GERMAN FOOD IS FUKING TRASH lived there and studied for 2 years and it’s nasty. Even Germans just cried kebab shops. Thankfully there was some decent Asian food in köln.
Schnitzel - fried breaded chicken no flavor. Koreans make fried chicken 100x better (and I can get it authentically)
Authentic =/= good. Thai food is evolving constantly due to their huge amalgamation of cultures.
You outed yourself as a dirty kraut go eat a brot that’s your only contribution that and bread/pretzels and beer which Americans have made even better with craft beer
I will admit German bread fricks ours but you can go to small shops and get food quality but that’s annoying
>no flavor because no sugar and grease
way to prove the point made earlier
Mmmm yes I love the sweet tase of half of Mendeleiev board in my mouth. Also abaut euro food.
>Slavic cuisine
>Greek
>Austrian
Greek food is delicious, what are you trying to imply?
Wanted good euro food i gave you examples any question?
Oh wasn't the anon you were conversing with, just skimming the thread. Carry on
Greek food isn’t that good sorry dude. It all has the same white sauce that has the same consistency and taste as cum (don’t ask me how I know)
Also their hair falls into it. Went to Greece not impressed. Rome was a fricking trip Italians MOG entire continent of Europe single handedly (whit peopul dun sea son Dey food)
>redditspacing homosexual compares food to cum
Go back
>and taste as cum (don’t ask me how I know)
>American
>homosexual
No wonder everyfin that is not semen taste like crap for you.
Greek food is the breasts.
greek food takes a huge sht on anything americans ever invented, sorry dude but europe mogs you in terms of food
>Salads that are only dressed in olive oil and vegetable and only have vegetables instead of being loaded in garbage
>Americans hate this
Who would have thought
don't forget flavorful goat cheese instead of plastiic cheddar kek
>compares food to cum
>unironic homosexual steak
can't make this shit up, american "cuisine" is for homosexuals
Diaspora gays are always like that. They are so empty in their life that they autisiticaly vling to any identity. See:Irish americans, or BalkanBlack folk in western countries. They see themselfs like some great partiots that remember their roots but only on some holidays then it comes back to beeing a mystery meat mutt.
Gross dude you’re a fking MAP. Stop posting anime girls and go touch your wife’s (male) dick
Velveeta (doesn't even call itself American cheese) or Kraft slices aren't American cheese. Sliced American cheese from the deli - in FL the common premium brand is Boar's Head - is fricking delicious. Full stop.
>frozen crinkle cut fries
the best
europe is such a shit hole
>more cheese than meat
Do americans really!?
it's called a cheeseburger, not a burger topped with cheese
>meat is clearly overcooked and borderline charred
>American cheese slices
>edges of the slices is charred
>onions are charred
>blatantly obvious frozen fries
I would eat it, but it would probably give me pause for a few seconds. That's not good cooking.
'charred' is not a bad word when it comes to burgers
its called perfectly seared how would you know if its overcooked? you can't see inside the pattie the outside is seared perfectly
>perfectly seared
>literally black with charring
Ah yes, cancer meat, my favorite
>doesnt want cancer
erm, cringe?
so you are also unable to distinguish colors? got it no wonder you suck at this
He's clearly got a strong sear on it but when he finishes the burger the juices are still running red; if you've overcooked the burger they'd run clear or not at all.
YOU BURNT THE CHEESE YOU FOOKING MUPPET
>putting the cheese on the meat while the meat is still on a hot stove
Please tell me no one actually does this. No one could possibly be that fricking moronic, right?
I put cheese on an egg while it's still in the pan right after I flip it.
>freely admitting to being moronic
Why would anyone do this?
by not being a moronic homosexual who can't control his grill
What's the problem? It gets the cheese gooey and the cold cheese kills the heat on top of the egg so it doesn't get overcooked.
oh god how stupid are you, yes thats what you do
Seasoning meat is moronic and dries it out.
LOL. Salt brings out moisture necessary for a good sear on a steak / beef you can’t cook for shit or think for shit. Google is your friend you moron
You eat frozen shit. Theres a reason why Five Guys doesnt season their meat because it is high quality a delivered on the day from the producer.
who said they were eating fast food goyslop?
The meat in five guys isnt the same as mcdonalds.
I cook all my meals because I’m not moronic. But when I do go out I can within 10 mins get —authentic tacos, Korean BBQ, hot pot Japanese style, or BBQ. That’s the power of American cousin enjoy your kebabs euro-food-poor
I would like to meet american cousin he sounds like a cool dude
YOU KNEW WHAT I MEANT PLEASE DO NOT CORRECT MY GRAMMAR//SPELLING AGAIN. (You have been warned)
but the merican cousin who is he? sounds like a chill guy
HAHHAA (funnier the second time) just like your mom’s hairy c**t
their is nothing funny about my mums hairy c**t, that shit is lovecraftian levels of wrong
Y r u gey?
no I just thought your cousin sounded like a cool guy to hang with, why? you looking for someone to bum you?
Seasoning meat is for street shitting indians who cant afford refridgerators and have no way of keeping it fresh. Theres a reason why salt is called a pteservative, it literally makes the meat less fresh so it is edible.
Okay you’re just bait or moronic. Salt makes the crust on my steak so fking good I feel bad for you I would cook for you and I promise I wouldn’t cum in it before serving
There might be an argument for seasoning the fat for a better sear but keep it away from the lean at all costs
bad bait
how many layers of moronation do you have to go through to arrive at this opinion
Do you work for five guys by any chance?
I did 2 years ago now I make 40k banging your mom on onlyfans
Zoomer burn. Zoomer spotted. Zoomer alert. Vaping homosexual alert.
You mean his mom makes that much on onlyfans, ain't no one subscribing for your ugly ass lol
So whats the recipe for perfect "greesy fat american cheeseburger"?
What meat, what cheese, what additions (pickles only?) what sauces?
>So whats the recipe for perfect "greesy fat american cheeseburger"?
Just Put THE MOST unhealthiest ingedients imaginable, cover it in palm oil, and add some chemical for extra flavour(tm) results will come
>american "cheese"
>american "wine"
>american "food"
>seeds on the bun
You blew it!
this movie is israeli and anti-art
>everyone is just pretending to like art and all artists are frauds that subconsciously want to make slop
>only the lowest class of human being (e.g. prostitutes) actually know what's up because... because they just do
>if you think you like art, you don't and you should die
>if you even passively engage with what you consider good you should die
>smashburger with only two patties, not even smashed that hard
>virtually no toppings
>that dogshit looking cheese
garbage burger
>authentic
I don't want your 3rd world Black person food to be "authentic" because "authentic" means filled with parasites and diseases. THe last "authentic" chinese place I went to almost gave me food poisoning with their cold sewer chicken
real american bbq is better than moronic Black person 3rd world shit, especially "stir fry" wok crap
also the fact that you think italian food is even close to the best european food is hilarious too, lmfao
>What meat
it honestly doesn't really matter since burgers are poor people food. People will tell you it does but it doesn't, just make sure the patties are all equivalent in weight.
bun doesn't matter either as long as it's tough and toasted enough to not fall apart from the sauce/grease on your burger and the right size that the meat isn't hiding inside lol
>what cheese
you CAN use american but it's not that great
cheddar or merkt's cheddar spread is better (if it's not spread make sure it's melted)
>what additions
if you're putting bacon on it you can have it with fewer toppings
otherwise
>lettuce
>onions
>tomato
>mushrooms
>pickles/relish
and other such things
if you're having it with bacon you can drop the lettuce and tomato, and use fried onions instead
>what sauces?
ketchup, mayonaisse, mustard, maybe bbq sauce if you're having it with bacon
hate me if you want but I occasionally mix them all together with general tso's and/or bang bang sauce
SEEEEEEETHE
Euro food is trash Italian and someone said Greek which I would give not my personal indulgence
But yeah 2 small shit holes and the rest of your entire continent has shit. You would rope once living in a major US city
>all good food in US is just exotic foreign food from immigrants
keep being proud of that lmao, europe has that too + their own good authetntic food
Name it. Outside Italy and Greek it’s all shit. Just cope harder no one is opening up a Norwegian diner here nor a German one nor an English one nor…get the picture moron?
a lot of your shit straight up has european origin you moronic mutt including the burgers you fat israelite worshiping mutts shovel down your throats
My argument exactly. America is the melting pot of all culinary art distilled into something unique but still all seperateo. Best food on the planet because of authenticity and variety
>authenticity
no lmao, you're a simpleton for believing any of that shit is authentic
>variety
yes
Definitely is but you need to find a city with high population of what you’re looking for. Miami has authentic Cuban food and if you disagree you’re objectively wrong.
>which I would give not my personal indulgence
ESL moment, frick off Pablo
>this much projection
lmao read the rest of my post
I'm an american moron, tired of you coastie homosexuals talking about authentic food when literally all the best sushi here are the rolls invented in america for americans
>euro food is trash
you've never been to europe lol
the european food here moggs all the "authentic" third world Black person food too, at least when it comes to sit-down places
tacquerias are good but only on-par with the white-owned burger or chicken places
Not engaging with you, you're israeli and anti-white
>Not engaging with you, you're israeli and anti-white
I except your concession
>made the israelite cry so hard he couldn't spell "accept"
Yes I have been. Italy is the only decent cuisine I guess Greek if you like hair in all your salads
You’re not an American you’re a homosexual. Even the euro trash have better insight than you moron. Leee sushi is best. It’s raw fricking shit I can make it with 0 skill and it taste the exact same way. Muhhhh mouth feel much presentation. Go get some tuna and cook some rice there 99% of sushi rolls go have a nice day weeb loving gayboy
you can't even write in proper english, and yet you think you're an american and I'm not
lmfao stay brown, ugly
is just pretending to like art and all artists are frauds that subconsciously want to make slop
that part is half true. People only pretend to like art, but the frauds that make it just want clout and prestige, very few of them have an actual creative urge or they would exercise it
>>only the lowest class of human being (e.g. prostitutes) actually know what's up because... because they just do
also true, but rendered laughable considering they cast the worst actress imaginable to portray an unpretentious normal person. b***h doesn't even look like she could pass for human
>>if you think you like art, you don't and you should die
true, anything that can't be described more specifically than 'art' is trash and if you are the kind of person who needs to pretend to enjoy it, the world would be a better place without you
>>if you even passively engage with what you consider good you should die
you couldn't think of enough greentext lines so you added this one as filler, it's a meaningless statement
YOU'RE AN INANIMATE FRICKING OBJECT!
I apologized for that, now apologize about my c**t fricking mom, thats over the line mate
>plastic cheese and grease
>no veggies because americans can't stomach anythyng remotely healthy
peak american cuisine right there lol
>all these gayots (probably from ck) seething
hilarious they are literally pic related
youre right, jerky anon is a homecook with no skills who larps as chef online. it's not based.
It was poisoned
*takes one tiny bite*
>"Omg I am so full now"
Was gonna say. knowing her figure, that's probably the only bite of a burger she ever ate. Maybe she spit it out afterwards.
You can eat a truckload of food and still be skinny if you don't eat for the next two days or so
Her eyes are bigger than her stomach.
ZING hahahaha
Who the frick keeps casting the alien from E.T
Ironically the most pretentious part of the movie. People who know nothing about culinary arts that are writing, directing and acting to portray high cuisine as pretentious and a burger as true righteous food. They think a fricking cheeseburger is what truly makes artistically driven chefs happy and fulfilled. It’s unbearably pretentious
>artistically driven chefs
Artistically driven poeple, especially chefs, are some of the hardest working people in the world. Someone who knows nothing about cooking calling it pretentious is in itself extremely pretentious
>Artistically driven poeple, especially chefs, are some of the hardest working people in the world
I think physical labor (of any kind) is actually harder than being a narcissistic drug addict with shitty tattoos overreacting to someone ordering a grilled cheese.
The work required to become a chef of high standing is enormous, routinely working triple what a labourer would do. Being a chef is a notoriously strenuous job
yes the high status jobs of rich babymen are notoriously all much harder than actual work. It must be true; the rich babymen on tv all say so!
lol go back to the wash station fricking dishy's
They go through the bridage morons, most have worked 30 years as dishys, preppers lines stations and sous. They run exclusively on cocaine
Chefs delegate literally all their work and don't do shit. They promptly forget how to actually be proficient at cooking, too.
Have you ever had a real job? Trying being low man as a plumber or concrete worker, frick, even garbage collectors.
Yeah… shifts and no responsibility sounds real hard. That’s why they’re all athletes. I’m not saying they’re easy, but driven chefs put way more work in and its also physically demanding
not as physically demanding as tiling a roof in the summer
Not all places on earth have horrible summers, and most kitchens are hotter than a summer roof
>chef burns a dish
>customer gets upset
>concrete laborer fricks up a pour
>Bridge collapse, 50 are killed
Yeah, no real responsibility there
>idiot druggie not watched over by real chef fricks up order
>kills customer with food posioning
uh huh
I'll tell you a real story I knew a californian guy who was japanese grew up in that state, he did ok their and then tried to opened a restaurant in aus melb, his sushi was pretty brilliant really damn good stuff also amazing presentation, he had been running for 6 months, one day he catered to a school faculty all the teachers, very high end private school the guy also had a food truck, he didn't really understand 40+ degree weather we get in summer, he fricked up his rice went bad in the heat and he poisoned the entire faculty not only did he ruin any chance of his business working, he got sued of course 2 teachers nearly died all of them were hospitilized and he was deported, lost everything, because the dumb frick didn't understand that leaving rice out in 40 degree heat with raw fish was a bad fricking idea. literally over a million lost and lives ruined in a single afternoon
i've worked as a concrete pourer, now that shit is insane, you ever poured a pool? absolutely mental, thats the only job I coudl equate to doing what I do
No, you dumbass. Cooking for art killed him inside. A simple meal he cooked at his first job reminded him of why he tried to perfect his craft in the first place. Frick you. It would've been anything. Cheeseburger jobs are very common though, and it's an iconic food to americans. So, frick you.
Yikes post. Nothing is stopping him from still cooking burgers or casual foods. Most upscale places have a casual restaurant attatched to them where the chef can scratch both itches professionally, sounds like he was just a bad organizer and businessman.
>sounds like he was just a bad organizer and businessman.
uh yea that was also in the movie, he was he pursued a dream of only cooking the greatest quality ever and found it hollow
He was! Everything thing you said was correct! He's a moronic antagonist! He doesn't have to be a fricking stand-in for every single working member of the culinary high-arts. Fricking Christ! You're a yikes post! Learn to watch movies again without the global commentary whitenoise interfering with everything you're seeing.
Yikes, you seem unwell
based non-engagement after being proven wrong
great tactic, very yikes
You’re justifying the pretentious unrealistic story with the internal motivation of an equally pretentious and unrealistic character. My point being a person like that wouldn’t require cooking a cheeseburger to remember why they worked 100 hours this week, let alone why they loved cooking.
Eating cheeseburgers and cooking them 12 hours a day are very very different. No one in their right mind would enjoy it if they actually knew what it was like
This one single individual happened to become so self-obsessed that, for him, cooking a cheeseburger WAS a reminder why they loved cooking. Fricking hell. They explain this in the movie.
Nah it’s reverse pretentiousness. All artists that achieve greatness are quite mad, they throw their lives away to achieve greatness. It’s extremely pretentious to write cooking a cheeseburger as a revelatory moment like that, only a person who has never cooked a professional meal in their life could write this, and THAT is a pretentious. Had they simply satirised the over-the-top high cuisine that would have worked, but the moment they suggest a cheeseburger as the antithesis to pretentiousness, is the moment the film disappears up its own colon
>and THAT is a pretentious.
Oh, you're moronic. I didn't realize it when we started this conversation.
>pretentious: attempting to impress by affecting greater importance or merit than is actually possessed
>cooking a cheeseburger can make a professional chef reevaluate their motivations beyond what they already know
It’s typical gay Hollywood hamfisted pretentiousness. Again I say, not a chef in the entire world has ever gotten anything out of making a cheeseburger except a greasy apron
>I speak for all chefs and cooks around the word
your neurosis is no-ones problem but your own
I simply did what the films’s writers did, which is provide a realistic take on the revelations of cooking a cheeseburger :^)
lol you really didn't get the movie at all did you?
>reverse pretentious
oh sorry didn't realize your an idiot
did you miss that he and his staff had, had a complete mental breakdown? also its a satire jfc
You're right anon, the person youre replying to either didn't watch the film or just skimmed through the wiki plot.
Couldn't agree more. I had the same issue in Pig when he went to that upscale restaurant concept, and he portrayed all 7 to 9 course chef tasting concepts as pretentious and conceited, and then mocks him for none of it "being real". I do not deny that there are pretentious concepts like that, maybe 10 Madison or something would fit that bill. But most of them are not, and what you are paying for is a chefs knowledge and expertise in crafting an unforgettable experience you simply cannot get anywhere else. You are paying for their artistry. A place like Canlis, Little Pearl, or Fat Snook has given that to me, and they are designed to go there once a year for special occasions, and I feel bad for anyone who not only has never experienced that, but judges it.
you completely misunderstood that scene, he could cook at that level, the idiot could not thats why he was saying why didn't you just open your own pub? you can't do this right
>the idiot could not
No, he obviously could, since he was making a complicated seawood foam and scallop dish. Cage never bashes him for the food being bad, he bashes him for not pursuing his previous dream. What the scene fails to realize is that dreams, and passions change. Who is Cage to tell that man that the young pasta cook who used to work for him, still held the same dreams and beliefs he did back then? And again, there is no reason he can't run an upscale concept, and a pub at the same time. Most restaurant groups have upscale and casual in their restaurant portfolio, and if he's running a popular upscale joint, he must be in a redtaurant group. It was bad writing, my least favorite scene in the movie. It was pretentious on behalf of the writers to assume so much.
and he was bad at it and not making the dishes right, the pretentious idiots paying for that didn't know because they really had no idea what the dish made right would taste like, however the idiot did and just pretended it was ok even though he knoew he couldn't do it right thats why nick eviserated him like that, he wasn't confident in the shit he was serving and kept telling himself
>this is what people ant its a successful restaurant
seriously how did you not get that?
You're making assumptions that aren't true, just like Nic cage did. Your whole reply was just what Cage said to him, but the movie doesn't show or protray any of that. They tried to frame Nic Cage's character as some sage man of simplicity but he was the most judgemental and pretentious person in the whole movie.
he didn't make assumptions he tasted what the chef was serving first and found it wanting, you really didn't any attention at all did you?
now imagine if the food was actually cooked correctly how much better that would've been
He didn't say the food was wanting. Here's a transcript od their conversation:
This is the kind of cooking you like?
It’s cutting-edge, it’s very exciting.
Exciting.
Uh, I mean, everybody loves it.
You like cooking it?
Absolutely.
Derek, what was it you always used to talk about opening?
Wasn’t it a pub?
Every-everyone loves it here.
It’s a… this is a huge success.
Why didn’t you open your pub?
I… I don’t… I don’t know that I… I really wanted, uh, I mean… I mean, it’s such… that was such a long time ago.
When I fired you, I asked you what you wanted to do.
You said you have a few rooms upstairs, a real English pub.
That… did I… I say that?
Yes.
Nobody wants pubs around here.
It’s a… that’s-that’s-that’s a terrible investment.
What was going to be your signature dish?
Liver scotch eggs with a honey curry mustard.
- then he goes on to mock him and say none of it is real. I did watch the scene, and he never says the food was wanting. He was just making the assesment that the chef was fake and not wanting any of it.
format your fricking posts reddit, insta-hide seeing all that space
I simply provided you a documentary proof to the contrary. I'll accept your taking issue with my format being 'reddit' as a concession and apology for having misinterpreted the scene.
I love the scene, I'm saying you need to shrink that down into a greentext next time. Redditboy.
I copy and pasted it from another website. I was not going to take the time to add greentext formatting for some one who I already knew did not understand the scene like he claimed to. You, not me, either unintentionally misunderstood the scene, or doubled down on your lie once you were caught in it. And now you're making ad hominem attacks when I don't use reddit. People like you, who lie and attack others instead of habing civil and adult-like conversations, are the problem with this site.
I'm not OP. Why would I automatically HAVE to be OP? Have you ever used this website in your life? Jesus fricking christ. I've been arguing for the scene this entire thread. I've been dunking on the cooklets for not understanding how to caramelize onions because they're pussies. Why do you insist on me being the moronic OP and his defenders? Please, sir, we are on the same side here. You're reddit as frick and you cannot post without being reddit. Stop while you're ahead.
yep correct I was the anon you were replying to btw, also before that he did test the dish, and clearly found it lacking infact the look on nicks face could only be characterized as disappointment
he said it was a transcript, its not reddit spacing in this particular instance
this homie's actually paid hundreds of dollars for some pretentious millennial who unironically liked anthony bourdain to put a spoonful of brown rice on a plate and smear some sauces around it
Nothing about it was pretentious, every experience at those places I went to I will remember forever. It wasn't just the food, it was the atmosphere of enjoyment and celebration from everyone in the restaurant, the amiable and genuine service, and sharing unique and delicious food and wine with people I love. You sound so, so bitter. Maybe one day, you'll understand.
but how was the spoonful of some stupid shitty grain grown in one region of india because the soil is too shitty for a real grain like wheat or rice?
Rice is generally a cheap filler food at low quality restaurants, most upscale tasting menu joints don't use rice. No where I ate had rice in any of the courses.
yes I know, they use shitty rice replacements for the poorest people in asia instead, and charge a ludicrous amount for it
If you're going to.mock tasting menu joints, do it properly: everyone uses local ingredients at those restaurants, not imported.
your bait is boring
When Nic Cage's character in Pig says "None of this is real", he's specifically referring to the rat race of attempting to run a high end restaurant at the behest of trends and food critics, and abandoning the dreams you used to have, specifically because he's talking to an old student of his who he knew for a fact dreamed of opening a pub and serving greasy food. He's telling him that life's too precious to care about chasing prestige above all else, which is why he moved out in the woods to begin with. He's not calling modern cooking a sham, but rather saying that it's an artifice that you can choose to leave
a mcdonalds cheeseburger will be like 50% of this "experience." a really good meal from like kfc will be 90%, a dine in restaurant 100% the experience exists only in your ego larp and yeah it is pretentious. "uhh yea i spend 500 for my artisan steak" ive been to these high end artistry larp restaurants they taste the same it only feels different cuz ur ego jerking off yourself the whole time. the menu is about ego death and him blowing up himself and the other rich people's egos (via s'more degradation) so that they could be authentic and stop larping over nonsense.
t. didn't watch the movie
Do you often go into threads and complain about movies you didn't watch?
i just opened a food truck bros wish me luck
good luck bro, hope you dont get robbed at gunpoint. look into a quick-release button for your truck that shuts it down if you're in a bad position. they save lives.
i live in texas, no one steals in fear of getting shot
When they did the whole 'oh the guys will play hide and seek part' was when I 100% mentally checked out of this film. Given that opportunity, every single guy there should've just ran into the woods, banded together, picked up a rock, and then collectively bashed in the fricking brains of whoever came after them. So stupid. A woman or homosexual moron wrote this movie.
Have you met a rich person before? They're terribly selfish and don't like to work together as equals.
Bad cope
It's my real life experience. I watched what happened at a very rich wedding when a vape pen exploded in a waiter's pocket. It was like Lord of the Flies on crack. Every single man and women for themselves.
kek, what they thought it was a gun or something?
It sounded like a bomb went off. Grown men launching themselves out of their seat and hauling ass while their families struggled to rush in the general direction of the crowd. It 100% destroyed the evening and the dancefloor was the cringiest shit in the world once they got everyone back inside.
Reminds me of ISIS poseidon.
the chefs outnumber them and probably have access to better weapons if necessary
Damn it Favreau, it's just a cheeseburger.
>american cheese is the best cheese for burgers bec-
It's not even cheese and it tastes sour.
real american cheese not that shit you are buying at your local supermarket
>american "cuisine"
That's positively cute
Sorry we can't all eat euroslop.
>euroslop
britain left the EU, that's bongslop now
for me its, Boars Head the most expensive american cheese you can buy
>pasteurized process
Goyslop cheese 🙁
Same Goyslop cheese on a 30$ burger 🙂
what are you having for dinner tonight lads?
making a cottage pie me
making a huge pot of hearty chicken soup because im lazy but want to practice my knifework. lots o veggies going in this one tonight.
Why are chefs so beautiful? I've never seen an ugly chef. Even the less symmetrical ones have this air about them that is just so incredibly attractive. I just don't get it. Is it knowing what they provide that tricks my brain into wanting to lock that down?
Chefs are all dumb ugly homosexuals, including you. Stop sucking your own dick
>entire thread is autists arguing about onions
It's hilarious how threads on Cinemaphile about the bear are filled with anons seething about people taking cooking too seriously and threads on Cinemaphile about the menu are filled with anons seething about caramelized onions.
Are you the grifter "chef" who fakes caramelized onions and STILL seething about being called out on it?
It's okay anon, we can't all be real cooks. I understand you work in a kitchen and have to take shortcuts to succeed in tricking rich snobs out of their money because they have the patience and self-control of toddlers.
Yeah that's me. I camp out on Cinemaphile waiting for these threads so I can spread my message. Problem?
>who fakes caramelized
still seething?
It's not seething to point out that caramelizing the sugars inside of onions is not the same thing as caramelizing some brown sugar on to the exterior of onions. I'm not the one stupid enough to pay for your fake cooking
I just throw the onions in a slow cooker for 12 hours with some butter. Kino or bino?
it's certainly more acceptable than sweetening onions with sugar, coloring them with balsamic vinegar, and calling them caramelized onions knowing that your moronic customers will eat up whatever slop you serve them and call it manna from heaven just because it's so overpriced
>caramelizing onions takes hours
lol stay seething
I can get real caramelized onions in about 20 minutes in the pan if I don't care about getting some burnt bits - and I usually don't, burnt onions taste perfectly fine.
good lad, some char on the edges is what you want
I'm one of the anons who knows how to properly caramelize onions but this irony wasn't lost on me. I was expecting that chefjak to be posted next to a quote of one of my comments at any time.
That boorger looks like shit. If a chef made it for me, I'd spit in his face.
this movie was fricking god awful trash. the film equivalent of a 10 paragraph long reddit post tirade about some gay bullshit nobody cares about, that goes on and on and on and ultimately says nothing
You mean like you're doing right now?
for cheap goyslop burger I put cheese on the pan and flip it when the sides bubble up then lift it out with the top bun
These threads are funny because suddenly it's revealed that Cinemaphile was actually filled with professional-level cooks and chefs
The thing about cooking is that most people do it, which makes it different from e.g. roofing or policing. You can chime in on stealth Cinemaphile thread without professional experience.
>go see this movie with my friend
>come home for dinner
>mom made burgers
Comfy memory
Just clocked in chef bros. Kill me LOL!!!!
its been 5mins anon are you ready for service yet? get your fricking hustle on
>make shitpost before work
>250 replies
incredible
I remember How i've mad a thread on Cinemaphile abaut some dumb DOOM kiddie spinoff. Got close to 300
>you don't get the point you moronic homosexual do you? your shit is NOT authentic. every exotic cuisine especialy in america has to change their recipe to appeal to the locals. your country runs on sugar and grease, if you ever had to actualy eat authetic foraign healthy food you would get the shits because your body can't figure out where the grease and sugar in in the meal you just ate
>>LOL GERMAN FOOD IS FUKING TRASH
>yeah it's trash when you haven't consumed anything but sugar and grease your whole life. your country is unironicaly consuming PLASTIC cheese. that's like some homosexual who only watches adam sandler comdies lecturing people on comedy, get a fricking grip you fat ugly mutt
Chat I tried an empanada once now I wish I had an argentinian wife to make them for me
plastic cheeseburger is the peak of american cuisine, sad but it's true and reflected in the movie
>WOULD
I WOULD THAT FRICKING CHEESEBURGER
"Authentic" food is a myth, ingredients are always changing.
Virtually every cuisine in the world uses New World ingredients in their """traditional""" recipes (tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, etc)
As much as non-American homosexuals love to pretend Nana's special meatcake has been in the family for a million generations, if you really went back more than a century you'd find the food of your country or culture to be unrecognizable. Bitter pill to swallow, I know.
Another extremely bitter pill - sometimes hybridized foods resulting from migration or cultural synthesis result in better dishes than the "traditional" version. Example - I don't like the "original" Chinese black bean noodles from Shandong and vastly prefer the Korean-Chinese version. The Korean version is probably over 100 years old at this point, who gets to say that it's not "traditional" or "authentic?" Go back far enough and no food would end up being "authentic."
>300+ posts arguing abaut food
Maybe...Eat what you like?
You could never cook what I like. Cooklet. Brainlet. Frick you.
What if you like eating young boy wiener?
Jeffery thought exactly like you.
i'm looking it up to see if this guy had any truth to what he's saying and it does appear to be some sort of argument for salting your steak for 24 hours. we'll see, i'll give it a try. i honestly don't see how much better i can get a sear and how much crispier i can get my duck skin with this technique
you should try dungcakes too, i hear theyre very easy to make if you live near cows.