So /m/ is the Witch From Mercury bubble bursting? The gunpla sales are tanking and so are the blurays now.
Will we be getting more gundam for true gundam fans now as an apology?
So?
So /m/ is the Witch From Mercury bubble bursting? The gunpla sales are tanking and so are the blurays now.
Will we be getting more gundam for true gundam fans now as an apology?
Can I ask why does Twitter have so much larpers called "Racist Ramba Ral", "anti woke Amuro", and "Based Dozle"
Its just guys with a thin gundam reference throwing in their political opinions who always gain traction its annoying as shit. For the past year these people have been seething over G witch and now act like every little piece of news that fits their world view means the "True" gundam fans won.
Those are probably bots me thinks
The desire to inject your dumbass American politics into anime goes both ways.
It is so annoying as the internet tracking knows im probably racist and more conservatives so these type of accounts are always plastered on my feed. I hate seeing these homosexuals are the reactionary equivalent of tumblr shit like "Trans Sayla" or "Neuro divergent Quess"
>"Neuro divergent Quess"
So just Quess then.
The culture war is its own self-perpetuating entity. I trigger you who triggers me who triggers you again. On and on and on. And new people join the cycle every day.
and they never post gunpla they always post random hot anime takes, posts from Cinemaphile, guns, or political news its pure propaganda
>Can I ask why does Twitter have so much larpers called "Racist Ramba Ral", "anti woke Amuro", and "Based Dozle"
Because Twitter is Cinemaphile for normalgays.
There's some conservative seethe account with Gundam in his youtube name and his crying about [insert trend here] always shows up when I look up "Gundam"
You mean Itsagundam? I'm left wing and I like his (non-Tiktok) stuff wen he pokes fun at wokesters.
ESG scores maybe?
>ESG scores
do people, anyone give a frick about ESG scores?
Companies do, because it's used for investing ratings. Whether you believe it or not, billionaires consumed the koolaid and legitimately believe in social causes, they just individually don't think they're personally responsible for it
Every time I see his channel or similar channels in my feed I'm reminded of my political phase. God I was a massive, joyless homosexual back then.
Now you're just an unironic libtard homosexual, what a downgrade
It would seem you were ahead of the curve.
The curve being the regurgitating /misc/ hot takes from 2016.
he literally did it just to steal the line from Wing. Honestly a really smart marketing move and somehow bandai still hasn't cracked down on it.
He gets a pass by being an actually skilled modeler
Maybe he should embrace bring a hobbyist more
>ew real life uhh uhh i'm a manchild
The internet only got worse once people started bringing """""real life""""" into it.
They're grifters who became involved in politics only after their personal passion like anime, movies and games got messed with. Ultimately they're nerds pretending to be political big brains and it applies to both sides of the political spectrum.
>Racist Ramba Ral
If no one else has that username, I'm taking it for myself
>not bomber Ramba Ral
in my days it was just the zaku i, zaku ii and the gouf......
>In the middle of a lynching, Ramba Ral forgot to lynch
Zeon larpers
>the Witch From Mercury bubble bursting?
What does that even mean.
I'm hoping their bots otherwise it's kinda sad.
>nigs and landwhale reduced into background literal who characters
>gay brocon magically prayed the gay away through the power of pussy and his homohomosexualry was shown to be driving him insane
>Arab character depicted as a terrorist
>Now the interracial lesbian couple - the entire premise of the show - retroactively retconned into just a “friendship” marriage
My god the meme was actually true… Looks like going woke really did make Bandai broke and they’re damage controlling the entire thing.
I don't think they're going to issue an apology for the show that made them more money than any previous point in their history.
>the show that made them more money than any previous point in their history.
You're still spouting this garbage
which is why they're making more SEED content, yes.
Enough of it. There were barely any characters worth a damn.
Does he mean Lycoris? That danced around it even more than Witch
It was confirmed at an event that Kudelia and Atra are married and that was before WFM
oh yeah, but that's like a thing at the tail end of the show, not its genre
this guy is a total homosexual I swear if they notice you use /m/ these are the types who are shown to you its so odd.
>Gunpla sales are tanking
Being unable to sell grunt suits that were in the show for five frames doesn't mean the show bombed.
unfortunately shaddiq was in the show for longer than five frames
Even his potato chip tie-in isn't selling well, so I think that's just people hating Shaddiq, not g-witch gunpla bombing.
Shaddiq is an unpopular character, all his merch shelfwarmed as a result.
Shaddiq is just one of many shit characters in GWitch but I actually like the Michaelis and I'm a bit sad it's reputation is dragged down by having a worthless pilot. It's the Jagd Doga all over again
every pic i've seen of the caliburn is also of stacks of the kit in stock, never empty shelves.
>grunt suits that were in the show for five frames
Even when you defend the show you make it sound worse
>grunt suits that were in the show for five frames
speak for yourself
I'd buy the shit out of this
So, is WfM another SEED situation where the protag's stuits sell like a hotcake but everything else bombed?
>everything else bombed?
Like Kira always landing in the top 10 Newtype characters for years, with no break? Delusional.
No because people also enjoy the other suits.
Like the Druggies gunpla sell well. Same with the Windam.
>Like the Druggies gunpla sell well. Same with the Windam.
[citation needed]
Guel's suits and the demitrainer (lol) sold well too. The only thing I've seen that's bombed are the random grunt suits that never did anything and the Michalis.
Based on going to stores in Japan, Chuchu's Demitrainer is just as unwanted as the Michaelis. Stuff like every grunt suit, the Suletta and Miorine kits, the Beguir-Pente, the Lfrith Ur and Thorn and the Demibarding have also been warming shelves.
How about the Dariblade?
Depends. I didn't see a single one out in the wild outside of The Gundam Base release day until last month, but I saw one or two stores with them stacked up.
They've been warming shelves since they released. Shit like the Dilanza Sol or Zowort Heavy were harder to get.
I've seen the Zowort in equal quantities as the Michaelis, Heindree, and Ticklabang. Been in stock everytime I've check since February or March, and it's in stock on P Bandai, where most unwanted stuff goes. A few people making customs doesn't make it in demand.
>the Suletta and Miorine kits
Surprising. Thought for sure they’d be popular given the audience
>Stuff like every grunt suit
Absolute horseshit the Zowort is still the most popular grunt to be used for customs on Twitter.
the zowort isn't the only grunt suit in the show, anon.
>every grunt suit
people seemed to be fooled that just because a lot of JP people mass-bought them on their first day of release, it means they sold really well when the fact it's just a first-day hype.
Pretty sure at least one show as a Buster Gundam in terms of not selling well.
and then they changed him into being a good guy and his gunpla sold.
Why do so much reactionaries out of spite just straight up ignore gunpla sales or the sales in general.
You are like a liberal who cant accept the facts yet you hide behind being "based" and think a gundam AU is the "fall" of a franchise
>Why do so much reactionaries out of spite just straight up ignore gunpla sales or the sales in general.
Why do the people who like Witch and cite last years sales data ignore that Gundam was already on the rise before last year, or by how much the published highest selling Gundam products were not Witch stuff? Like the Nu and Sazabi stuff
It goes both ways. If you want to use sales data in your points, you actually have to pay attention to how things were trending prior and that actual break down beyond the big number.
>or by how much the published highest selling Gundam products were not Witch stuff? Like the Nu and Sazabi stuff
You imbecile, you fricking idiot. They are the highest selling in profit, not numbers.
A single one of these is the equivalent of two dozen HG Calibarns.
>optional parts
dumb frick
That only makes the difference look worse, you know
>USD$1,350
Why can't you accept the idea of a specific Gundam entry catering to a secondary market?
IPs die if they don't experiment or broaden their appeal. This shouldn't have to erase prior entires on their success. It shouldn't need to be mutually exclusive.
It's reasons like this that I hate the culture war so much. Let one group have their yuri-gundam. Tomino fought for Turn A to be as gay as he could get away with almost 25 years ago and /m/ has worshiped that show since the mid 2000s.
>IPs die if they don't experiment or broaden their appeal
And? Why should I care if an IP survives if it becomes garbage? I've seen tons of things I liked turn to shit for this very reason.
Okay reactionary
Turn A was actually good though
A 7/10 in a sea of 8s, 9s, and 10s pre-IBO.
>ips die if they don’t broaden their appeal
>to less than 1% of the population
Weird way to go for broad appeal
The main difference here is that Turn A was a passion project that Tomino poured his heart in soul into while G-Witch is a poorly written wreck designed to wrack in as much yuri money as humanly possible
You wouldn’t say that today
I am a true soldier of Tomino, I absolutely would. You’d have to be actually moronic to not notice the massive difference in quality between Turn A and G-Witch. Most of G-Witch utterly falls apart if you even bother to think about it for more than 5 minutes, it often fails on the most base level
Yeah okay chud
Slit your throat
Not same-anon and I think the main issues with Gwitch is that Suletta-Miorine, despite being a big focus, feels like a terrible couple.
I think gay couple can be done right hell i'm bisexual but the Suletta/Miorine couple simply feels bland at best and almost abusive at worse.
Want a good couple in Gundam? Take Garrod and Tiffa : Reverse the gender of any of them for the couple to become gay, and it still would be very good, because it's a good couple.
Miorine and Suletta feels like they are written by people who don't understand relationships.
and if you want a better example with a similar dynamic : take Samurai Flamenco.
Masayoshi is like Suletta : MC, a bit dumb, clumsy, socially awkward
Goto is like Miorine : hard working, support character, a bit rude.
Both shows ends with the climax being one loving the other. Yet where Flamenco feels soulful as hell, Gwitch feels dumb. And the relationship in Samumenco ends up much more healthy despite the two characters being fricking weirdos
In the end, Siletta and Miorine both being girls was really the only thing the show had going for it. If either of them were boys I'd bet the show would be bricked financially on account of how little substance it has.
People have been trying to use other established gundam couples to say they’re “up to interpretation” too but like, they fail to understand that those aren’t up for interpretation because they were clear in the story. Sulemio was clear in the story but the buildup was so lackluster that people would rather ship them with others and Bandai knows that and won’t alienate the, because they’re just as important, if not more loyal than Sulemio fans if this is anything to go by.
Asian homosexual
>People have been trying to use other established gundam couples to say they’re “up to interpretation” too but like, they fail to understand that those aren’t up for interpretation because they were clear in the story.
That's the same problem I have with Shiro and Aina as well as Kira and Lacus.
Sulemio is only clear if you go by the holder system. They have zero chemistry together and Suletta is just literally mentally ill and is codependent on Miorine, someone she actually barely knows.
It's hilarious that this is what passes as "good romance" to yuri fans. The first (and one of the few) time they emotionally open up to each other is when Suletta tells her about wanting to open up a school on mercury, and the first thing Miorine does with that information is try to guilt-trip her out of her bullying-induced panic attack to absolutely no avail. Her attempting to separate Suletta with the rigged duel also isn't even what snaps Suletta out of her depression and obedience to Prospera. The only time she actually managed to put Suletta at ease was that pre splat-hug. So that's 1 out of 3 times she actually managed to be emotionally beneficial to her. It's sort of like watching a really bad dog owner who has no idea what the frick they're doing but the dog is too docile to notice
The thing is Shippers these day relied so much on Fanwork to filled the gap of the romance, so they were fine.
This is why you have some cases of fan artist got attacked because one artist prefer different path than theirs
Shippers have always been fricking crazy.
I literally just found that some artist was attacked because she felt MiorineXSuletta romance was lacking and want more explicitly developed romance.
Oh my god yes! I see the beats, i see the big moments. just going by those moments i can buy the two as a couple. Nut everything else inbetween? God no. Subtext can only get you so far when you're fighting for space between other plot points.
Is this what subtle yuri is like? if thats the case I'd take Symphogear's punch you in the face with the gay approach.
I remember a post on a forum somewhere, can't remember which, where they say it will be quite interesting to see the reputation this series has once the hype dies down. This stupid marketing decision by sunrise or whoever the frick shot themselves in the foot here makes me really wanna see what happens when the honeymoon phase is over.
the marketing team put more thought into those two than the writers. that fake vr date or whatever the hell it was a couple months back was a very good idea.
Wtf, garrod fell for tiffa in the first episodd because she is cute, and It was as shallow as "me shonen hero, must get cute girlfriend".
Garrod is the template 90's and edgy kid who gets to pilot the strongest hero machine and scores the qt girlfriend. How the frick is that a good couple? It's just a power fantasy selfinsert for middleschoolers
Garrod gets fricked up multiple times and wisen as the show progress. The relationship between the two is a strong focus, as both Garrod and Tiffa changes quite a bit
Again, the only thing he is interested from start to finish is her looks, she is cute docile and shy, that's what Garrod likes about her. People are discussing Miorine and Suletta relationship talking about much deep stuff like if it is really healthy or it was abuse, the human and emotional interactions between suletta and miorine are far far deeper than any interaction Garrod and Tiffa had, yet these last two kissed on screen. And all that "improvement" Garrod had was standard shonen hero shit like stoping being an irresponsible whinny little shit and upgrating to the XX, literally man up and get the dicky. Shallow as frick compared to all the interactions between suletta and miorine.
I watched the show, I remember the satellite cannon, the main suits, the you are mad because i'm styling on you, the dolphins, all yamil story and motivations, roybea being a good dude and visiting old GF to see if they are alive, yet I don't remember a single good moment between Garrod and Tiffa that is not surface level "the hero must get the dicky trophy", and I like Gundam X pretty much.
And yet Garrod and Tiffa's simplistic little moments still easily triumph over G-Witch's attempt. Because you can at least see they're building to a romance instead of just relying on subtext for the carry.
>People are discussing Miorine and Suletta relationship talking about much deep stuff like if it is really healthy or it was abuse
The best romance is always the one that had it simple and honest.
The fact that you need to discuss about MioSule relationship meant there was uncertainty in how the romance was shown and people needed a form of confirmation from it.
Also most of the time i see the discussion of MioSule outside of /m/ it's always turn into circlejerk and at best the discussion about headcanon rather than the show.
Miorine and suletta are shallow as frick though
All Gundam romances are because that's what Japan likes, fricking Kira and Lacus were one of the most popular couples in anime and that had negative chemistry, people want bland and safe.
>meer has 50% more fan art than lacus
>lacus's voice actress thinks meer is a better character
>even characters in universe think meer is better than lacus
I don't believe for a second that any of the polls that have shown Kira and Lacus to be popular are legitimate.
's voice actress thinks meer is a better character
That sounds hilarious. Got the source? Doesnt sound like the thing she'd be allowed to say.
Yeah, Miorine was kinda awful, and they was so much else the plot needed to do that they barely had any time to justify the pairing. Toxic is the word i know a friend used to describe the pairing, but even that's too strong a word. Toxic implies she was there!
https://ogiuemaniax.com/2023/07/28/anime-central-2023-interview-tanaka-rie/
Thanks.
Anyone think there's going to be a glorious backlash when the honeymoon phase ends?
It was already getting backlash when the ending aired. Granted the sheer amount of shills was still overwhelming but even people who were staunch defenders of the show weren’t too thrilled. This is the proverbial cherry on the shit sundae. People cancelling gunpla and blu-ray orders, swearing off the franchise completely, I saw people on t*itter posting guides on how to send hate mail to Bandai, people talking about how they’ve been betrayed and the show has been sullied now. I think it was already going to start dropping in esteem anyway like most shows do after the gestation period but this will absolutely damage it massively in the long run, even if it’s not even that big of a deal
Anyone posted any of that stuff to Cinemaphile? that sounds hilarious.
And i mean Witch from Mercury not the Gundam franchise altogether
>SEED gets a reevaluation due to the success of Freedom
>G-Witch becomes the second most hated Gundam with a female lead
Everyone wins!
Second worst? Whats the worst again?
Twilight Axis most likely
Twilight Axis becomes much, much more impressive when you take into account the entire short was done by one guy, who animated, draw and directed it, including also directing the VA?
Yeah, I don’t hate it. It’s basically an insane passion project that Bandai just gave the thumbs up for made by a dude who’s expertise lies in animating and not directing, writing, casting, etc. in a way it’s actually very very impressive even if the finished results are an obvious mess.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't a passion project, it was just some random story written by some web novel writer in cooperation with sunrise and the entire thing was a promotion for that web novel. Seems more like a humiliation ritual tbh since the guy's apparently a asiatic and not a nip
Most of it was in the other G-Witch thread that I think 404’d. The one that started out with the OP gloating about the marriage interview in Gundam Ace and then the entire thread doing a total 180 once the online version was released and Bandai issued the apology. If you just search Gundam on Twitter you can find tons of it. Most of it is just people with lesbian flags in their handles having a fit but there’s a lot of ‘cancelling this order, frick you Bandai’
That one exec is probably pulling a 200 IQ move where he intentionally tank the sales just so he can say gay female leads doesn't sell.
>save the sales
Nature is healing
Reject G-witchcraft. Return to SEED.
I think the franchise will be fine
I meant just G Witch’s reception. This will obviously not affect the franchise in the long run and Hathaway plus Freedom will continue to satiate other fans and bring in money but WFM is probably going to have this loom over it forever now. Good, I say.
I think it’ll safely go down as worse than Age and IBO in terms of fan retention as well as merch sales after this. It was already falling off but this just made it nose dive.
Ok I keep hearing about the merch sales, but is it true? i heard they had trouble keeping even their candy in stock.
It's not true but that anon thinks repeating it over and over again will make it real though.
A series sales dropping off after it finishes airing isn't a conspiracy? That's usually what happens if it isn't consistently pushed afterwards.
Feel like posting all those failing merch numbers then?
No, I don't actually
Understandable, have a nice day then.
You too man
The problem with everyone talking about merch sales is that both sides only have anecdotal evidence. Only Bandai really has the complete picture.
>People are discussing Miorine and Suletta relationship talking about much deep stuff like if it is really healthy or it was abuse, the human and emotional interactions between suletta and miorine are far far deeper than any interaction Garrod and Tiffa had, yet these last two kissed on screen.
Let me explain. Romance isn't deep, it's primal and simplistic in nature.
Complex 5D interactions aren't romance (by themselves at least). Garrod and Tifa want each other so they kissed. Suletta and Miorne obviously care about each other, but there is no sexual attraction between them, so they didn't.
G-Witch as a show is pretty damn sterile in that regard in general.
>Let me explain. Romance isn't deep, it's primal and simplistic in nature.
It is simple in shonen and porn, not in real life. People, and especially teenagers, don't know wtf are they doing and they come with a lot of insecurities and baggage. Suletta and Miorine don't go much further than hugs because they are not allowed by Bandai simple as, so saying there is no sexual interest, when it's clear they did it as ambiguous as possible because corpos orders, is stupid.
Frick Cinemaphile tourists, twitter obnoxious gays, and western imbeciles, this show had good designs and the main couple was cute, the only problem is that the pacing is attrocius and the show ends doing nothing interesting with all the momentum they build in the first half. This show needed either better pacing or 50 episodes. The main couple is not the reason this show ended like shit or that western twitter users are moronic scum.
>The main couple is not the reason this show ended like shit or that western twitter users are moronic scum.
It is because the atrocious pacing was caused by needing to give them drama. The complaints about them not being sexual or any more physical doesn’t work well because even the moments where they are physical it doesn’t ever feel like romance. Guel’s proposal to Suletta was more romantic than anything Miorine ever did with her which is fricking absurd to say. Miorine never actually came off as caring about Suletta’s affection at all, throughout the show it just looked like she wanted to monopolize her attention to get her away from others without actually being interested in her past being the only person she depended on. Suletta’s talk with El4n’s ghost had more emotional impact than Suletta talking to a wall, only after fighting a duel because she doesn’t believe Miorine will take her back unless she has the pristine status of holder. The two of them could have had more moments showing their care for each other but they thought the holder system and outside marketing was enough to sell the ship and they were right. No one cares about the actual relationship, just what other people say about the relationship and the promotional material it gets outside of the show itself.
I disagree with your opinion
That’s perfectly fine, have a nice day.
You too
It's simple in real life as well.
I'm not saying there isn't stuff around it that complicates it. I'm saying that it's ultimately driven by lust. As soon as you go outside of that, you might find yourself in the territories of friendship, familial and other kinds of bonds.
Suletta and Miorne are driven by obligation though, not lust.
Btw, there is a lot of ways to show casual intimacy outside of hugs and kisses.
The work itself > everything else. If there's zero eroticism, the romance is simply shit. Excuses don't change that.
No it's true for real life as well. Sex and sexual attraction is a part of romance. To claim that they aren't is to admit that you've never been in a relationship before.
This, the most romantic moment they had was the hand thing they did when they reunited, they really should have at least hugged there.
I don’t like them at all but I was pissed when they did all that buildup of Miorine walking to the door just for it to be a hand hold. If they had leaned into each other while doing it to imply an off screen kiss, that would have been the best but not even a fricking hug? Their relationship is just stale bread. It looks fine until you try and actually do something with it.
That's an anime problem even with straight couples, physical contact is WRONG, remember the only on screen sex scene in Gundam is Kira/Flay which showed that sex is an awful filthy thing used to control another person, thank god Lacus saved Kira and showed him true romance is separate beds.
That doesn’t work cause there are still plenty of other couples that do a better job of showing just through words alone and the fee times that they do touch. Miorine’s gestures towards Suletta feel inconsiderate of what Suletta actually wants a lot of the time and it just doesn’t come off as two girls in love, especially not two teenage girls in love.
and yet even with Lacus's inhuman untouchability she actually managed to get a cheek kiss
they didnt even touch palms at all, felt more like a butler pulling his master out a car than something romantic. unironically mogged by rapelan and his shizo gf
They spent so much time on it too. I loved the cope that the two of them fricked afterwards as if there was anytime for it or as if their relationship had ever been that close. I saw someone try and compare it to the Yuri on Ice situation way back but it’s entirely different when you have the guys literally being all over each other. Miorine rarely even felt like she wanted to touch Suletta and Suletta seemed too scared to actually initiate anything at all with Miorine.
>didn’t watch the show
>[male] fell for [female] because she is cute
Is that not normal? I mean throughout the anime Garrod showed his progression to be the man good enough for Tiffa.
X had problems (especially being for how boring shite that was) but their romance was hardly to criticize for.
go back
I'm saying it right now. Turn A was Tomino telling a story he wanted to tell. Warm was some unholy abortion of Utena, Tempest and UC spreading itself out to appeal to as many audiences as it can like an Ameoba. Code Geass actually almost managed to accomplish that, but it's clear now that Okouchi wasn't the man responsible for it.
>The main difference here is that Turn A was a passion project that Tomino poured his heart in soul into while G-Witch is a poorly written wreck designed to wrack in as much yuri money as humanly possible
And don't forget that Turn A wasn't expected by Bandai to make much money: it barely got model kits. It was mostly a favor to director Tomino due to his influence by both the company and the TV station.
I would, and you know why? There have been five G-Reco movies, and none of them got a single new model kit out of them. Meanwhile, some shitty SEED manga gets a fricking MG.
>Tomino fought for Turn A to be as gay as he could get away wit-
>The big gay villain loser who didn't even score.
Several staff walked bc guin was a prancing lala homosexual man
>Tomino fought for Turn A to be as gay as he could get away with almost 25 years ago
That's soulful, mass marketed "yuri" (made subtle enough that they can edit it out of the show for chinese markets) is soulless
People always seem to forget that products get sold in chinese markets too.
Yes CCP hate homosexual.
But their weebs are yuri loving incel
I'm a chink and I dislike yuri. Alot of my friends dislike or at the very least are neutral about them.
You're thinking of SEA people
That makes me curious what chink Gwitch actually looked like
because Turn-A was good
and G-Witch is bad and pandered to the most annoying and b***hy terminally online freaks
It's that easy.
Turn A and the LGBT stuff in it were actually good.
Because we are seeing proof that the pandering is the only thing keeping them in rather than the Gundam parts or associated hobby
It's just an extension the usual saleshomosexualry.
>gay people are mad
>Gwitch sales gets terrible
>season 2 canceled
>SEED becomes the focus yet again and can be pushed in China unlike Gwitch
>Main couple is heterosexual again
>SEEDposting return
what did Bandai meant by this?
Does SEED turn into a harem anime later on like IBO? That stuff usually rubs me the wrong way.
>twitter thread
>The gunpla sales are tanking and so are the blurays now.
And yet here you are still obsessing over it.
>Will we be getting more gundam for true gundam fans now as an apology?
It was truer to Gundam than IBO or the homosexual Gunpla baby shows. Cope.
IBO was truer to gundam simply by the merit of actually having something to say. Even if it's execution is miserable, it's still more commendable than Gwitch, the safest gundam production since seed
>IBO was truer to gundam simply by the merit of actually having something to say.
LOL
So you have no argument.
What makes you think you're entitled to an argument?
Posting under Anonymous on 4chin. You, however, have forfeited the right to have your say by replying with
>LOL
its over for the slanted eyed biggots
>limping around in sales
>when there's SEED FREEDOM , a new 6 episode OVA, and potentially Hathaway 2 + more un-announced stuff like Silver Phantom
homie is moronic
Chinese otakus alone will make more money for Bandai than all western GWtich yuri trannies when the new Sneed show and kits come out next year
>Already arrogant enough to assume their clique has fully taken over the gundam fanbase and has the sway to control the franchise to their will
Kek
I bet you chuds ignore you go woke go broke boycotts huh?
anon I like Gwitch but the guy simply was moronic.
SEED money is no joke
Yet you western shitters complained at seed for years? Don’t ally yourselves with me mother fricket
I like both SEED and Gwitch. You are the one generalizing
>I like both SEED and Gwitch.
Only proves you have no taste. Random question: is there a Gundam show you DO NOT like?
Yes
I don't like Unicorn
shut up you dumb subhuman troony. You freaks always have to sperg out and make yourselves known. have a nice day.
Says the reactionary
I prefer the term counter-revolutionary
has this dr. tom bowers even bought a single kit of any grade?
Iam gonna go out and buy my first build next year to spite this homosexual, I already want to buy a Metal Slug Transformer figure so I might as well dig in.
As a true Gundam fan the only series I've enjoyed since Turn A were Build (s1), G-Reco, and Witch.
Did he win?
The only winners in G witch were the characters that were allowed to die, and maybe Felsi.
>Will we be getting more gundam for true gundam fans now as an apology?
your trying to start something but i don't know what?
Here is a question for you. Why would a Japanese show give a frick about western politics? I don't think it does at all and I don't know enough about how LGBTs are treated in Japan to care.
Who are their top investors? Blackrock or Vanguard?
JP Morgan is their 3rd largest investor
I work here and it's ultra-gay. Leftists don't have a fricking leg to stand on, JP's support of progressivism is not lip service, they diversity hire until it literally starts hurting the company.
>Vanguard
Please don't tell me there are other companies like Blackrock, I am pic related.
Vanguard is worse than Black Rock
>Vanguard is worse than Black Rock
welp shit.
They're both bad, and both in cahoots.
They even both own shares in one another to drive this point home
>I don't know enough about how LGBTs are treated in Japan to care.
Japan doesn't care as long as it's in fictional media. We've seen plenty of yaoi/yuri series and characters across their mediums without issue.
Outside of fictional works though, Japan is still somewhat socially conservative in regards to LGBT; skewed towards the 30+ being more against it in a disappointed sort of way while the younger generation is ok with it. In fact, they recently passed a bill to try and "understand LGBT", but it does not include protections or full benefits, and same-sex couples are still not given full legal benefits as a married hetero couple. According to polling (which was biased towards the younger generation, I might add), roughly 70% support LGBT to some degree; but only insofar as being given equal legal benefits as a married hetero couple.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/16/asia/japan-lgbt-bill-passed-intl-hnk/index.html
At the same time, with the declining birth rates, Japan is encouraging same-sex couples to have children via surrogates, and a few extremists in the government want to make it mandatory for same-sex couples.
Mecha without causal aggressive misogynistic can hardly be called mecha.
>The gunpla sales are tanking
Proof?
>blurays
lol
Whenever I see Gwitch threads on /m/ I feel like I'm looking into a bizzaro world.
If the yuri was too explicit you homosexuals would call it overbearing lgbt propaganda, and if it's too subtle you'll say it was underwritten.
The yuri was underwritten and they're still calling it overbearing lgbt propaganda, anon.
It is subhuman propaganda spread by pedophilic clowns and everything in GWitch written like shit, no contradictions here
>JP Morgan is funding a Mobile Suit Gundam show to turn kids gay
So now that gay marriage isn't real what reason could there be for someone to watch G-Witch instead of something better like 00? I mean, fricking Escaflowne this wasn't. If you didn't like the romance idea there is nothing else for you here.
Show evidence of tanking
It's moronic that they backpedalled on the yuri when it was so evidently obvious, but I genuinely despise the " modern " twittertard audience they were supposedly pandering to. A lot of these twittergays are crowing about how they won't be watching anymore Gundam or buying/supporting through gunpla and I say great. I hope this sort of schizo overreaction to one magazine makes Sunrise recognize that appealing to autistic twittergays was a mistake and these newhomosexuals get out of Gundam permanently
even reading at the Twitter storm most of the complaints come from the Japanese though
Cool horseshit bro
just read Black person
Only Cinemaphile will defend corporations when they simp for your political ideology
I don't have a political ideology moron, I just utterly despise tourists who trash the place.
Anon you better not be talking about all of us, cause if a corporation started simping for my ideology which is "frick politics of any side, give me something good" I still wouldn't trust them, because all they want is money from my wallet.
Which is why I pirate shit.
Considering Gundam Caliburn is not really selling well. WfM is just FOMO without long-term sustainability. I think the gunpla will perform like AGE ~ G-Reco
>Gundam Caliburn is not really selling well
it's doing pretty good, only beaten in the models department of Amazon by the MG Zeta and Aerial Rebuild
What’s with all the Dragonflies? Bug repellent?
no fricking idea https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Oniyanma-Repellent-MINGLONG-Dragonfly-Decoration/dp/B0BBTJTJTY/ref=zg_bs_g_10391353051_sccl_1/358-8885425-7152214?psc=1
That's only because amazon ran out of preorder slots for Build Metaverse and MGSD kits
The only SEED kit that ranked for the past monrh was the Strike Freedom after the movie announcement, aside from that it’s been all G-Witch and UC, generally with more G-Witch than UC
Note that it’s also sold out, it usually outsells the Aerial
The Strike Freedom is an MGEX, if it actually ranked, then Bandai is doing great.
Yeah it was because of the Seed movie announcement, it ranked for like a week and then went back to oblivion
Anon, you do realize that MGEX are fricking expensive, right?
It was the 2.0
There is no MG Strike Freedom 2.0. thats the MGEX.
Not him, but that's really just semantics. It's essentially just a 2.0 that is upmarked. If we were still in the era of gunpla we were in durning the late 2000s/early 10s it would have been listed as such and probably half the price.
You moron, MGEX means that an actual 2.0 wouldn't have that much gold.
No anon, you are the moron. The only thing that makes it any different from a normal kit is the photo etched parts. We have had plenty of kits with coatings before.
Anon, you're truly stupid. Claiming that "it's just an MG" is the top cope around here.
It's alright anon, I know you weren't around for the golden age of gunpla but there is no need to show it off.
Anon, they put the EX because it is costlier than a regular MG. You denying that it costs more than a regular MG because of its different types of gold parts is disingenouous to the question.
You were saying that the movie boosted the sales, but ignore that this is not a commonly bought item, like a regular HG release.
Do you not remember the MG Full Burst Strike Freedom, which in addition to coated parts actually came with effect parts, remember when bandai didn't israelite out on that and charge extra for that sort of thing? When it came out it retailed for 7000 yen, as opposed to twice that for this kit. The only difference between the new kit and a normal MG is the photo etched parts and the upcharged price.
>You were saying that the movie boosted the sale
Like I said, not him.
Except for the MGEX, I doubt they will be doing a regular release. In fact, I can see them doing a P-Bandai MGEX with the Voiture Lumiere and effectparts for Full-Burst.
Yes, I'd agree with that. But that's less about the kit itself and more about modern bandai's policies than anything else.
It also comes with an extra Lacus figure.
I'll post an anecdotal evidence to just share information. My mom is currently in Japan and bought to me a Callibarn.
My mom is a normie, so is most probable she was on some normie place to buy gunpla.
There, of the 3 itens I asked her to buy (the Calibarn, the Swarzette and the Mirasoul flight unit), she only got to buy the Calibarn, and it was the last one. So at least in Japan, I think it's selling rather well in stores right now. I'll also say that somehow, it was discounted too, so maybe that is a factor.
Anime staff vs. Executives. The only Gundam rivalry that's more classic than Amuro vs. Char.
So is my takeaway of
>The entirety of the show's production was making it overtly yuri
>The one saying it's not yuri is a studio exec trying to downplay it because they're either an old dumbass or scared of mainstream reception
accurate?
>The entirety of the show's production was making it overtly yuri
They didn't do a good job at it
>The one saying it's not yuri is a studio exec trying to downplay it because they're either an old dumbass or scared of mainstream reception
They didn't say it wasn't yuri just that they couldn't say marriage for some reason either for political or marketing purposes we don't know.
That's what I mean when I say that, the hot button issue (of the hour) is whether the main couple actually got married, which is pretty blatant from watching the show but then you've got some suit desperately trying to reword things for the press release.
Basically, it seems kind of silly because they make it very explicit in the end so unless they plan to push it in China they'll have to edit out all signs pointing towards their marriage in the epilogue.
The entire plot of the series is structured around the engagement and thus, ultimately, marriage of Mio and Suletta. It just feels very ill-conceived to have even let the show get this far to get cold feet now, and reeks of some dipshit executive having a last-minute panic attack over it.
>The entire plot of the series is structured around the engagement and thus, ultimately, marriage of Mio and Suletta
Maybe the first season but not the second
even in that Miorine kickstarted the plot because she cared for Suletta too much
>kickstarted
Her actions didn't move the plot at all it was all Prospera who did the heavy lifting and orchestrated the events that unfolded. Hell the entire marriage plot is just a sham that had nothing to do with anything other than to get Suletta to the Academy. G-Witch is ultimately about the how the actions of parents effect their kids and the main start and end to the conflict was Prospera and Suletta it had nothing to do with Miorine.
>the main start and end to the conflict was Prospera and Suletta it had nothing to do with Miorine
this is just a stupid way of looking at it it was Suletta and Miorine working today that stopped Prospera and Quiet Zero
>this is just a stupid way of looking at it it was Suletta and Miorine working today that stopped Prospera and Quiet Zero
Except Miorne didn't really do much of anything and it was Suletta who ultimately stopped her mother
you're fricking ungodly moronic and it was Miorine that turned it off because her mother gave her the password in a very roundabout way
Cinemaphile is that way yuritroony
Okay? We're saying that it was Suletta who ultimately stopped Propsera's plot for revenge. Miorne didn't do anything.
>Miorne didn't do anything.
why are you trying to die on this hill specifically? seems like you didn't even watch it
Miorine's contributions get undone right after the cliffhanger at the start of episode 24, lmao. The last thing Miorine and Suletta's relationship accomplishes is getting Miorine out of her hobo mode in that wierd foot fetish scene and from then on its strictly Suletta/Prospera/Eri (plus Elan's wifi ghost) as far as the end of the central narrative goes.
>then on its strictly Suletta/Prospera/Eri (plus Elan's wifi ghost)
again this isn't true
It is.
nope
Yep. And just because you disagree doesn't make you right
you were never correct in the first place
Still not right anon
I wonder how far you're willing to drag this out before asking me to grace you with the knowledge
Why would I need to grace anyone with anything? You can just watch the show which you haven't to come to the same conclusion
accusing others of not having watched something you evidently haven't yourself is a bad look
No it makes you look bad because you clearly haven't watched it
such a puzzling hill to die on when what Miorine did in the climax wasn't subtle nor was it supposed to be
>when what Miorine did in the climax wasn't subtle nor was it supposed to be
Yeah she did nothing the fact that you struggle to defend this makes me believe you shouldn't be here at all.
so you truly didn't watch it after all
That's what everyone has been saying to you and you haven' proven otherwise
I knew you would ask me to grace you with knowledge sooner or later
she announced she was selling Benerit group assets to Earth which was what made SAL call off their attack against the Group
don't talk about shows you haven't watched next time
>she announced she was selling Benerit group assets to Earth which was what made SAL call off their attack against the Group
Wrong
I accept that you talk about shows you never watched like a big brain boy
Are you talking about yourself sis?
do you get off to anonymous people on the internet calling you moronic?
>Suletta and Miorine working today that stopped Prospera and Quiet Zero
No it wasn't. It was just Suletta. Even Miorine's words didn't stop Prospera and she Suletta needed to convince her to stop.
This
If you treat the plots as wholly separate, divided by season I can see the argument, but as a whole the full story is too strongly rooted in that aspect to ignore.
not related but it's weird how people on social medias all talks about Okouchi but never about Hiroshi Kobayashi. Who was the actual director of the show.
Okouchi is the bigger name
Who's a bigger selling point? The writer of Code Geass or the director of Kiznaiver?
>director of Kiznaiver
without Miorine Suletta wouldn't have considered stopping her mom, this line is even after she had known her for a while
>The gunpla sales are tanking
Source?
>inb4 some twatter screencap with a nobody canceling some hlj backorder
So we all still agree Mio x Suletta sucked as a romance?
yeah
Sure, but that undersells the problem of them being underdeveloped characters with no proper emotional weight behind their actions. They act the way the plot requires them to act basically.
So we all still agree that Mio sucked Suletta?
No, most people aren't voregays.
How do we go about solving that?
Frick, not again.
Bro just delete and start over.
Sulleta is still barely a character and Guel's development is wonky as frick, even though he was one of luckier characters in that regard.
It could’ve been better, though.
Well, personally, I think Guel deserves better at least. Either going through a bit of heartbreak or by finding someone who understands him/his struggles and can push his buttons better. Perhaps both.
But, well, if you're self-inserting yume, I'm not going to stop you. This ship goes well for that purpose.
I agree. I guess that ship is good for a romcom but I don't think they're what each other need.
Since they keep wanting to pander to the self-insert crowd I guess that's why Guel never got a proper love interest though.
Guel deserves and has Lauda.
Well sir, it’s a simple answer.
I like the ship, that’s all.
Guel gets Cecelia working under him at his workplace. Probably going to end up having filthy boss and secretary sex with Cecelia on top.
Conclusion: Get some to learn to do model modding on. Take advantage of low costs of HG shelf warmers in order to improve modeling skills.
Gotta love this rambling, poorly written schizophrenic wall of text that has been added to the Wikipedia page and still hasn’t been deleted. In fact people keep adding to it.
This reminds me of the people who freaked out about AMAIM and kept making it seem like there was some controversy
tfw fishing (you)s from this thing in Gwitch thread on Cinemaphile
The second coming of our Lord and saviour is upon us. Gundam profits will be fine for the next 10 years.
Is it true that this series undersold completely and it was originally supposed to be full length?
unless you think Bandai was lying for whatever reason it brought a big surge of profits for them
No it was only planned as 24 from the start because they didn't want to pre-committ to multiple year projects like Amain in-case it flopped. I wonder if anyone got fired or demoted for thinking funding Amain beyond the initial anime and merchandise was a good idea.
>I wonder if anyone got fired or demoted for thinking funding Amain beyond the initial anime and merchandise was a good idea.
It's getting a second show, Anon. Apparently in about a week or so.
No, it's not at all. It's been stated time and again with past anime director interviews that the episode count is settled early on, because it's cheaper to negotiate the time slots and financial cost up-front than with a surprise second season. Only if they're making bank early on would Japanese companies usually begin negotiations for a sequel. Especially as the cost of production, marketing, and merchandising has only gone up. Besides, this isn't the first Gundam with 24-25 episodes; Gunpla Builders had about the same, Try while listed as sequel, is basically another standalone just in the same setting and also has the same number of episodes. Same for Divers, and ReRise. Hell, ReRise completely shifted the tone and most of the setting after Divers mixed reception.
>The gunpla sales are tanking
Both Aerials and Calibarn were sold out in all the stores I went to last weekend.
>Pander for the entire show
>Chicken out at the finish line
For what purpose? Now no one is pleased.
Sorry our Chinese overlords are watching, please understand.
>Exec see show ending and fan responses still bad
>Exec panic
>Exec make things worse
Like clockwork.
While the anime was airing you couldn't even talk about Guel or praise him in Cinemaphile without a Yurishitter screeching, having a meltdown and complaining about Guel. So while I also support Sulemio, I'd say frick the Yurishitters. They deserve every single bit of pain they are feeling since yesterday.
You're forgetting that that was punishment for Guelgays getting uppity when he had the bait-proposal at the beginning of the show. His fans got ahead of themselves and started screeching in every thread how he was the clear endgame if anybody mentioned SuleMio. You are complaining that what those gays were doing was done to them in turn.
You’re a dumbass for not realizing Sulemiogays were doing it from day one, of course people aggravated at that would shoot back the moment they had ammo to moron.
>N-no, you don't get it, the yurigays were doing it from the start before any other pairings existed for them to be doing it to! IT HAS TO BE THEIR FAULT SOMEHOW!
You are completely fricking insane.
>there were no other pairings!
Black person there werent ANY pairings at the beginning. SuleMio was non-consensual and forced as hell. Thats what made you yurigays so fricking annoying. While the rest of us were fricking horrified by the Holder System and its implications (to the world, story, and characters), you morons were overjoyed.
Sulemio gays were doing it from the start and shitting on any possibility of Suletta entertaining the boys at all. They literally set the stage for the environment to be toxic from the start. They have no one else to blame but themselves. You don’t see GuelSule and ElanSule being at each other’s throats the way SuleMio gays are at everyone else’s. Don’t start shit if you can’t handle it.
>GuelSule and ElanSule
would be doing the exact same thing if their pairing was given validity.
Hence why Bandai didn’t want to comment on it at all and get the SuleMiogays even more uppity. Regardless of canon or not, some ships will always be toxic to each other but GuelSule and ElanSule would probably be chill with one another even under those circumstances because evidently, canon doesn’t matter to them. They like the dynamics and leave it at that unlike SuleMio gays who don’t want anyone else to have fun.
>muh yuri
Don't care, I'm here for the cool robots. Now where's my FM Caliban and Schwarzette?
Shit setting
Shit writing
Shit designs
Shit gaybait
G-Slop can hopefully be forgotten soon enough
I sure as frick hope so. Regardless that it was an official Yuri show, the characters were trash and the MS designs were so generic and soulless it’s like they were made by a moronic AI.
At this point I’d even take a Wing sequel over more of this stuff. Even Age had a better premise than WFM.
Japan thinks Gundam Seed is the best looking Gundam series so they honestly have no taste.
Aesthetically the mobile suit looks great but how the characters was drawn looks like they have down syndrome
When has any Gundam show not been gay?
What are these gays complaining about?
so does anyone have any genuine complaints about this show outside of the yuri stuff? Because the school duel implementation give suletta major light novel protagonist vibes to me for some reason.
>so does anyone have any genuine complaints about this show outside of the yuri stuff?
This must be your first GWitch thread.
No, he does this every thread, pretending he hasn't seen any "legitimate criticism" for it
I barely go on these threads, what are you talking about?
I feel nothing for the characters outside of Guel and Prospera and there was no proper stakes to anything that happened. It was too prrdictable and safe in everything it did.
So what are the chances that SRW will actually make their marriage canon? Or will it be more 'interpretations'?
>So what are the chances that SRW will actually make their marriage canon?
Lmao. Better hope the woke translators make changes to the script.
SRW can't make any change they don't get permission for
I have a feeling this wasn't the in the original script
Wouldn't surprised since X is pretty unambiguous with Ange and Tusk
Wait, i havent seen this, this is a yuri baiting anime with a straight pairing with the main character in universe?
Yuri baiting. Ange fricked a guy for three days and nights. Hilda is gay for Ange though.
It's all but implied Ange gets a harem regardless. Not that it matters much since she'll be stuck with Salako in some form during her reincarnation loops.
If you needed any more proof that yurigays are terrible people.
Theres a bunch of lesbians in Cross Ange, yes. Hilda has it for Ange, the protagonist. Ange though hooks up with Tusk in the end, who according to Tusk in the series they even spent 3 days straight fricking at one point.
A lot of promotional stuff doesn't use Tusk, but his existence makes /u/gays seethe because of his victory.
does swr bring attention to that?
I never finished V, got distracted with other things around that time and haven't gone back to it.
But X, as has been said, Tusk still hooks up with Ange at the end, unambiguously.
To be fair to /u/, no one liked Tusk, he's so fricking boring.
I don't like Cross Ange to begin with, my only direct exposure to it beyond one episode in SRW. I just like Tusk because he makes /u/gays seethe.
I will never be fair to /u/gays again, I have grown to find them way to insufferable and will laugh at them any time. Just like I'm doing now.
This is such a fricked mindset it makes the /u/gays more right than you. You should sit in the corner and contemplate what a fricking waste of cells you are for that to be true.
t. /u/gay
Nah, I'm gonna keep laughing at people I find insufferable.
>laughing
>insufferable
Huh?
/u/gays are insufferable. When they get mad, I will laugh at them.
Laughter is an expression of pleasure, and something is insufferable when it's so unpleasant that it can never be tolerated. It's a paradox.
Bandai probably realized the ESG write off wasn't worth it and the payout wasn't even that much
what?
ESG score is BS. I work in the western gaming industry, almost no one talks about it no matter the type of project.
>I work in the western gaming industry
Thats because you work with actual trannies and gays, they don't need that as a reason. ESG is for higher ups.
Young chink consoomers >>> old israeli investors
Anyone have the deep lore on this "Akemi" person? Some schizo on Cinemaphile is having a meltdown and calling everyone in the thread this.
I'd say check the archives but you'd find like 50 pages of results. I think it's a guy obsessed with this other guy who he thinks is responsible for every post that doesn't support yuri, and became well known in Cinemaphile's Gridman and Lycoris recoil threads
I gather that much. I went there to laugfh in their threads because of all the raids they were doing and I get called Akemi by this schizo. Its fricking great, I love it. I love knowing people like this are out there seething so much.
He's been seething for like 8 years straight, if not 10, it's more like genuine insanity at this point.
Just ignore him. He's delusional to the point it's impossible to engage him in a meaningful conversation or even have fun at his expense and the mods ban everyone involved from the hip when they bother to clean his shit up. Not worth it anyway since he just cycles his router and returns within minutes.
>He's been seething for like 8 years straight, if not 10
11. The fricker said so himself mutliple time and yeah he's a legit autist.
A scumbag’s nemesis.
Does miorine have a skin condition? i saw that crossover promo with her and suletta with kira and lacus, and shes so white that she almost makes lacus look tan!
not even the paler characters in WFM are as white as she is, jeez.
>My local Gundam store had every type of HG WfM and IBO model in stock
Selling well my ass
>Gunpla sales are tanking
Lol what, they've entirely sold out of all of the big name wfm suits on most stores and even the absolute jobber ones are moving
This board is made up of idiots who think something can't be selling well if the shelves in shops are full.
Like the concept of restocking an in demand thing doesn't occur to them
Anon, I haven't seen any HGBF reprints as of the moment because they're being prepped for when Build Metaverse will air. There is allocation, that we know. but Gunpla aren't being reprinted at will. Which means that the remaining stock are just that, remaining.
do you really believe that just because they aren’t reprinting kits from a ten year old show they aren’t reprinting kits at all
They do, but it is strategically done. Just like the BF reprint example. They're going to be reprinted just in time for Metaverse. There are a surplus of G-Witch gunpla right now because the show is fresh off finishing, so I doubt those are restocks.
I saw someone on twitter say OP is a gay
how embarrassing, OP will never recover
That's another big L for LGBTards
Finally...it's over.
I hope it is, but as long as Reddit is a hivemind it won't end for some time.