So did the murders actually happen or not?
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So did the murders actually happen or not?
So did the murders actually happen or not?
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Make a case on why it matters and then we'll talk, otherwise saged and ignored
it matters because I said so
I don't think announcing you've saged a thread is in the rules, buddy...
>replys to question
>"ignored"
I dont think that word means what you think it means
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Black person
meanie
I think it's important that they happened because him getting away with it is part of the point. People cleaned up after him and ignored obvious signs because they're too caught up in their own lives to be bothered.
it was all a dream
I used to read Word Up! Magazine
Birthday's was the worst days, now we sip champagne when we thirstay.
It was literally all in his head. He didn't even work on Wall Street.
Or everyone on Wal Street are shit at remembering names.
Yes, including dropping the chainsaw and drawing it.
He was a CIA experiment, part of project sigma until he went rogue
Though he was delusional, he was a murderer. But the world around him was shallow, superficial, and materialistic, with too many people focused on themselves, so he wouldn’t be held accountable.
what show is this?
hip to be squared
Hip 2 B2
>squared symbol doesn't work
Welp I'm out of this thread
I thought it was a very clever joke, anon
USA Psychic
Problematic American II
Huey Lewis & The News
Murders & Executions
I've heard the homeless guy's death is much more disturbing in the book.
The violence is in general. Bateman describes everything in autistic hyper detail, whether it’s an album, a suit, sex with a prostitute, or a murder. If I remember correctly he stabs him in the eye and his retina detaches
There’s even a part where he talks about stabbing some homosexuals Shar pei and the dog begins to eat its own intestines. He also kills a hooker and gets mad when he bites into her intestines because there’s shit in them. Oh yeah, he sticks a starving rat up another hookers’ c**t which starts eating her and then another hooker he leaves connected to a high powered battery all night
He actually lets the homeless guy live.
but he cuts off his nose, gouges his eyes, and stomps on his dog. He sees him again later, and the homeless man pees himself, which Patrick finds disgusting and leaves him alone
of course not, it's just a movie, stupid.
No he was LARPing just like me
Check em
they didn't. it was just a movie
Every murder prior to FEED ME A STRAY CAT actually happened, the ones after like the old lady, security guard, and the cops were in his head.
i always assumed he killed at least once but then the crazy shit like dropping the chainsaw and exploding the cops was self-aggrandizing fantasies once he started slipping further from reality
its not explicit in the movie though, any of them could have happened in the reality of the film
batman?
Fun fact:
all that matters is these digits happened
It's all in his head
no. He's a delusional narcissist who imagines himself a likable, successful genius who can get away with anything he does. Nobody cares about him because he's an incredibly weird and off-putting person.
Holy shit no one understood this movie
Yes, it all happened.
The conversation at the end with that guy was a revelation but not in the way you mongoloids understood it. The guy didn't know anything.
>"Patrick Bateman? Haha what an idiot. Oh you are Patrick Bateman? Woops. Paul Allen? Murdered? Ha, get a grip I had a lunch with him yesterday."
In American Psycho, it's just a shallow vapid world. Patrick literally spilled the beans and told someone he murders people and the guy is like "ok buddy, leave me alone now". He didn't fricking know who Patrick was and he probably mistook Paul Allen for someone else too.
Reminder that this place is just as filled with morons as any other website or social media app.
test
Scenario 1: at least some of the murders happened, however some of them were exaggerated on screen/part of a psychosis/didn’t happen
In this case the exaggerations would’ve started with Elizabeth (the woman she drugs with the drink) and Christie (the prostitute who was tortured but comes back). He may have actually killed them but what we see on the screen and how he kills them is heavily exaggerated or part of his psychosis. Then everything after that is also part of a psychosis, particularly when he started shooting everyone. He may have actually called his lawyer but that was while he was tripping, there were no police. That would explain why the woman says it isn’t Allen’s apartment and there are no bodies, because he was tripping when all that was happening
As for whether or not he killed Allen. I think he could’ve, and his lawyer is so detached from all of his clients that he doesn’t actually recognize Allen. Everyone in the bank is interchangeable, to the point where people confuse Bateman for other people all the time, no one truly “knows” each other hence why Bateman says whatever is on the inside doesn’t actually matter in the end
I think this is most likely, because the director flat out admitted one of her big regrets was making the ending too ambiguous and making it seem like literally everything was a dream
Scenario 2: Bateman never killed anyone. However he is still a psychopath who has violent fantasies and desires and a misanthropy that no one acknowledges or understands. Because what’s inside doesn’t matter, a psychopath pretending to be human blends in perfectly with the superficial, corporate world Bateman is involved in so he is functionally perceived as indistinguishable from everyone else, whether he commits actual violence or not. This is still, thematically, very similar to scenario 1. I think it’s a bit less likely because the director admitted she never intended to make the entire movie a dream
It doesn't matter. It was all just an elaborate plan to get dubs.
He murdered Paul Allen, but everything else was just fantasy delusions
But the lawyer at the end said he had dinner with Paul Allen in London, so either the lawyer is also a moron yuppie that cant remember faces or he didn't murder Paul and stage it as him leaving.
The lawyer likely doesn’t give a shit about Allen, no one in the bank knows each other, everyone confuses Bateman for someone else constantly too. He probably confused Allen for someone else
The movie keeps making a point that none of these people know who each other are. The lawyer had dinner with someone he thought was Paul Allen.
The whole point of the book is that it doesnt matter if real or not.
No but it didn't matter
Checked.
Not in his head
The film tries to make it more ambiguous unlike in the book where it plainly states that although exaggerated a person like Patrick Bateman must exist.
The book has a lot more murders like killing a kid at the zoo shoving a feral rat in the vegana of a women and so on. So were all these in his head?
So for the film it would be a mix of both the murders happened and his confession is real but the big chase with the explosions were delusions and exaggerated.
Also for the Paul Allen murder he could've just killed some random banker and through his delusions thought it was Paul Allen since they all look the same. Or that the lawyer mistook Allen as someone else in London.
Or that the lawyer was covering for him because he was his client and he can't turn him in without losing his license to practice law.
The end monologue wouldn't make any sense if he didn't.
It doesn't matter. That was the point.
He even says it in one of his internal monologues.
that patrick bateman or paul allen?
Who the frick was Paul Allen
Him
jared leto
>watch the movie with some friends
>suddently there's a thread about it
only morons think the murders happened