>so good it's bad
Is Pixar's own reputation fricking them in the ass?
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>so good it's bad
>so good it's bad
Is Pixar's own reputation fricking them in the ass?
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It was a good movie but it's not the kind of movie that would make people run to theaters to see it
the problem is the male lead is a beta feminist simp who spends the majority of the movie crying. Note how they hid this major aspect of his character during the marketing.
>beta
>singlehandedly saves the play-offs
>gets Ember to hold hands
>declares his love in front of his own entire family after a week tops
>WE TOUCHED
He cries alot. But he's no pushover. He stands his ground with Ember and pushes her to be more honest.
Are men afraid seeing another man cry will turn them into homosexuals? It's not even portrayed as pahtetic in the movie, it's just something water people do a lot.
see
, he's the gigaest of chads in any recent disney/pixar movie
>so good it's bad
What?
Pixar fricked its own reputation by using the same formula over and over again and stretching concepts that would make cute 15-30 minute shorts into full length features. I think the last pixar movie I went to see in theaters was The Incredibles 2, and whilst I enjoyed it, it just wasn't as striking or tightly written as the original.
They simply need to learn how to write actual films again, and part of that process is accepting the fact that racebaiting doesn't sell family films.
>was The Incredibles 2, and whilst I enjoyed it, it just wasn't as striking or tightly written as the original
I'm pretty sure Disney pressures them to make sequels and also mandates that too many changes can't happen to the looks of the characters because merchandising needs to sell
The last Pixar film I saw in theaters before Incredibles 2 was Up, and Incredibles 2 is such a shitty movie with a moron plot that I decided to never watch a Pixar product again.
>so mediocre it's bad
FTFY
It's actually one of the better pixar films of the past few years. But it's not a film that justified hundreds of millions of dollars being spent on production and marketing.
Additionally it's not got a strong hook. The romance has to take a backseat to both an immigration storyline AND a disaster scenario. So the romance, that this film was initially advertised on, is barely the main focus.
Also it's full of pixar tropes. The liar revealed, two opposites go on an adventure, what if [BLANK] had feelings? Etc. etc.
This isn't okay for pixar. This is just okay in general.
>So the romance, that this film was initially advertised on, is barely the main focus.
Did we watch the same movie? Wade and Ember had like, three elongated happy sappy "isn't this romantic?" sequences together and multiple small moments of intimate bonding. The hot air balloon ride, the day-of-fun montage, the underwater flower, meeting Wade's family, the hand-touch scene, Wade using a sun glare for the "true love" test, Wade's big speech about how he loves Ember during her dad's retirement party.
How many more scenes did you need?
The romance was a big part, but between the three plot points (fix dam, budding relationship, conflict with dad over store), what the hell is marketing supposed to use as the hook?
They could have used humor and funny character interactions, but there were none. There is nothing about this film that kids would enjoy.
Sure, it had those scenes. But the end of Ember's character arc has nothing to do with romance. It's when she bows to her father and he bows back. Wade isn't even in the shot. There are romantic beats in the film - but the bigger, more important, plot beat revolve around her relationship with her father.
It's a 2nd generation Asian-American story first and a romance second.
What this show actually is, is another entry into the canon of movies conditioning Asian American women to be exclusively for white men
>white men
Doubt, were you even paying attention?
He meant wet men.
>conditioning Asian American women to be exclusively for white men
>implying they need help with that
asiatic women chase white dick like black men chase white pussy
But what about BMAF? Most of the ones you mention are because of proximity (west coast, the south)
Basically non-existent
water people are black coded
>"ELEMENTS CAN'T MIX"
>Fire people get perma-doused if water splashes on them and they need to drink lighter fluid to repair themselves
>Ember's mere presence causes nearby water people to reach boiling points
>Wade and Ember can touch just fine, no evaporation whatsoever
>"OUR CHEMISTRY CHANGED"
>But suddenly in a confined room, Ember boils Wade alive and he evaporates
>But it's okay he didn't actually die, he just turned to steam and decided not to yell for help or anything
>Suddenly they can kiss. Wade doesn't evaporate and Ember doesn't get doused.
This movie feels like it was being made as I was watching it.
>Ember's mere presence causes nearby water people to reach boiling points
I thought this was mostly played as joke. The water guys at the playoff game all look like nerds, so when they see a pretty woman scoot pass them they all are sweating profusely.
She does seem to boil Wade, but only if they physically make contact. He evaporates when they were trapped because well they were in a hearth.
But yeah, that whole "our chemistry changed(???)" shit was just a huge copout.
>I thought this was mostly played as joke
There's the scene when little Ember yells at two troublemaking water teens who are breaking stuff in the store. She infernos up and they start boiling and they physically look like they're in pain while screaming. They run out of the store in fear. A webm of that scene has been posted multiple times but I can't be assed to go into one of the threads and find it right now.
Maybe they didn't intend for the water people to look like they were in pain and they just wanted funny yelling faces, but it certainly looked like "HELP WE'RE BOILING AAAAAHH" expressions.
I could see an explanation that the boiling is a strange scary feeling they've never felt before, but not actually dangerous.
>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW that actually watched this shit and will continue watching every single piece of shit movie Pixar will make indefinitely
Pirating movies is badass!
You can scoop up dogshit off the streets for free too, you know.
I could. But I watched a decent enough movie instead. You wanna think about scooping up dogshit, that's all you.
>food analogy
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.
I'm not sure if people just have much lower standards, but this movie was really bad. If this movie was bad 15 years ago, everyone would be slamming it as an ugly and boring mess. It just feels lazy. Not even touching the "race mixing good" moral its gives which somehow already a dead horse.
>Uhh they spent millions on the visuals
Then they spent millions to make it look bad
It's not bad. It's just generic by Pixar's standards (which we eventually will stop holding them as the gold standard with the shit they've been releasing).
The story is more suited for Hallmark productions than Pixar.
Its not just generic, it's boring. The story is generic and shallow, but you can work with that and make it barrable to sit through. Everyone saying "its just not up to Pixar's standards" really have just had their bar beaten to ground level. Its just a bad movie. It's boring. Its ugly. It has the same tired propaganda tier story, and all of it has been done better.
>which we eventually will stop holding them as the gold standard with the shit they've been releasing
When?
>pixar spending 10x the money on a movie to make it look bad
I hate this movie because it reminds me of how women are evil and make me feel weird when im around them
What was the point of this scene? He didn't have to overcome his fear of sponges at the end.
It's a "mom telling embarassing childood stories in front of your crush" gag
I understand airs interaction with elements the least.
The air people literally get like "blown" away and come back together, when another element accidentally walks through them.
How does that old air woman and the old rock guy date?
She probably gives him blowjobs, and...
I feel like that might be all there is in the relationship...
I'm not sure they can do much else together.
Man what a perfect relationship...
But if your a female dating an air person. I think blowjobs might not work...
I mean obviously it works if your both air people.
Seeing your sports team stomp ass is better than sex. Toot toot.