>Michael Jackson is the most famous person ever.
Jesus? Socrates? Alexander? Caesar? Einstein? Hitler? >Tom Hanks>Tom Cruise
Debatable but I don’t think so >Johnny Depp is probably more famous than both
Quite the opposite, both are way more famous than Depp >maybe Robert Downey Jr
Hell nah
MJ is more famous than everyone on that list besides Jesus. maybe Hitler. Muhammad too obvs.
We can take people like Chaplin, babe ruth, elvis and they're icons. no one really knows what they did.
as for the heart throbs, Johnny Depp always got women, he always had real women throwing their breasts and ass at him. DiCaprio got little girls and Pitt got old ladies who knew they were dried up semen sponges and saw him as the ass in the relationship.
Johnny got prime women
>MJ is more famous than everyone on that list besides Jesus >maybe hitler >most famous person EVER
do you know what EVER means? What are you moronic? Do you think the entire world is shartistan? China has 2 billion people and I bet you fricking Confucius is more famous than Michael Jackson there. Jackie Chan for sure is. And that’s just China. >We can take people like Chaplin, babe ruth, elvis and they're icons. no one really knows what they did.
Confirmed fat who lives in a bubble. Did you seriously put babe ruth in the same list as Chaplin and Elvis? For international level fame? I guarantee you nobody knows who the frick what the frick a babe ruth is 10km away from amerikkka's borders.
>China
I shit you not they prob know MJ - if Japan, Korea aren't any different. >Chaplin, Ruth
They're both international literally whos, Chaplin only slightly more known in like europe cuz of the political speech >Maybe Hitler
Yes, you don't comprehend how much time passes and less new generations care about history especially internationally where countries never got involved directly with germany. You really think you'd know someone like Himmler or the Beer Putsch unless they put it in a fricking test?
Only artists, charlatans and that sort have the chance to be recognizable because art and entertainment are culturally spread, economically efficient in transmitting information
I think it's gotta be Michael Jackson as well. I remember watching a video where they show a bunch of stuff to tribal people in the Amazon rainforest. They didn't know about 9/11, didn't recognize Zidane, had never seen the moon landing footage. But they knew who Michael Jackson was.
Cruise is literally the pinnacle of a "movie star". he has an intangible quality to him that makes him seem more than human. With every other celebrity this image is meticulously manufactured and managed, but with Cruise it's just his natural state of being.
>Tom Cruise is the closest thing we have to a Primarch >Pinnacle movie star worth hundreds of millions of dollars >High Charisma with a strangle intangible quality that makes him seem more than human >Adored by millions even after several traitorous scandals >Was involved in a SCIENCE based religious cult. >The Emperor hide him away and erased knowledge of the 11th Primarch because of his inferior height.
>With every other celebrity this image is meticulously manufactured and managed, but with Cruise it's just his natural state of being
You can't possibly think this still especially after all his early 2000s controversies
Cruise literally has psycho Chad energy, he is constantly exuding psychotic vibes. You can see in his eyes that he is simply more, inside. You talk to him and he immediately starts dominating your soul. He does it to everyone, so often he doesn’t even realize he is doing it.
Like what? He said he didn’t like psychiatry and he got very excited on Oprah’s couch for his next A lister slampig, by all metrics that’s not controversial compared to what actors have survived. It was “big” because it was about cruise at all. He could’ve said he loved fricking black women in the top gun jet he keeps in his garage and it’d have been just as wildly discussed. It’s because Tom Cruise said it that it mattered.
You dont help out friends with alcoholism by actively getting them to engage with your activities (not scientology related) and be a bad person.
Even the best of people cant deal with addicts.
We all know how serious cruise is about movies. Pegg would show up drunk to scenes.
Cruise couldve had him gone with a finger wave. Instead, he takes him to the gym. Pegg ends up grateful
That fact alone sets the sails of the cruise ship for me
And frick you if you disagree
He even gave back his golden globes because he thought they were prejudice
Funny you say that. I went to watch Top Gun with my friend and they played a brad pitt movie trailer and my friend asked who was that, cause he saw him somewhere but couldn’t remember where or who it was.
Cruise has an unique face. Brad Pitt looks like a thousand of other blonde blue eyed hunks. Idk Pitt's phenotype feel very common but Cruise's face is unique and unmistakable
>Wayne
I always heard or read from boomers about how this guy was just so famous, as in at the mount olympus of fame, etc. but barely ever saw people talking about his movies themselves. Unlike Chaplin or even Eastwood.
>I have a feeling that's true for you of most things that existed before 2002.
Uhh not really, I literally just gave two examples (Chaplin and Eastwood), its just Wayne
Honestly it’s Depp. multiple films that millennials and zoomers obsess over. X’ers love his actual kino, and now the trial set him over the top. There isn’t any other actor that would be getting this level of worldwide love rn.
No, pajeet is actually right on this one. They cast SRK in literally half of all Bollywood blockbusters in the late 1990s and 2000s. We don’t really have an equivalent in the West for how much this weird lipped dude got spammed
In bollywood watching countries yes. Not in the developed world. I only found out about him when the 7-11 cashier mentioned him one time and I had to ask what he was talking about, thought it was his cousin.
Orson Welles
Errol Flynn
Burt Reynolds
Olivia DeHavilland
Barbara Stanwyck
Ruth Gordon
And of course, the great Nikki Blonsky.
Did I fall for troony bait here?
I would literally kill that troony for making look bad, would sneak up to his apartment one night and drag him to the roof then kick him off, nobody will believe i did it, they’ll be like it’s a troon of course it’s a suicide by mental illnesses case
>His status grew so large and legendary that when Japanese Emperor Hirohito visited the United States in 1975, he asked to meet John Wayne, the symbolic representation of his country's former enemy.[164] Likewise when Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev visited the United States in 1959, he made two requests: to visit Disneyland and meet Wayne.[165] >Wayne is the only actor to appear in every edition of the annual Harris Poll of Most Popular Film Actors, and the only actor to appear on the list after his death. Wayne was in the top 10 in this poll for 19 consecutive years, starting in 1994, 15 years after his death.[169]
John Wayne will be forgotten like the obese racist hack he was
Don’t @ me
2 years ago
Anonymous
And now it comes out. All criticism of John Wayne has nothing to do with the guy himself, you haven't even seen his movies, you just have an idea of him as some stereotypical superchud to direct your hate towards.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dude he's baiting. That being said John Wayne basically got so into his acting he started LARPing IRL thinking he was some top shit gung ho cowboy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>That being said John Wayne basically got so into his acting he started LARPing IRL thinking he was some top shit gung ho cowboy.
What do you mean?
2 years ago
Anonymous
He tried to attack Sacheen Littlefeather who read Brandos acceptance speech at the 1973 Oscars in
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well off the bat I don't see how that's related to what you previously claimed, but I read that viral tweet to. As far as I'm aware, there's no evidence of it or even a reasonable description of the supposed event. He "almost attacked her" from 200 feet away or something?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I mean he thought he was some top shit gung ho cowboy. He even bragged that his acting method was just him being himself. There are many actors that lose their marbles due to fame and think they are the character they portray, he's one of them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I mean he thought he was some top shit gung ho cowboy.
What does that mean though? >He even bragged that his acting method was just him being himself.
He's talked openly about "John Wayne" being a persona he invented (and one that has served him well).
"I figured I needed a gimmick, so I went to work on this Wayne character, I dreamed up the drawl, the squint and the way of moving. I even had to practice saying 'ain't"
"I've found the character the average man wants himself, his brother or his kid to be"
So, what are you talking about?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>He's talked openly about "John Wayne" being a persona he invented
John Wayne wasn't a character he played in a movie though, that was the name he went by as an actor. You proved my point about him LARPing, which is what I stated. He LARPed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That was your point all along? Nothing to do with his personality but just the fact that he used a stage name? Oh man, you really got him there.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I can tell you are a boomer from the fact you seemingly do not understand what LARPing is.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Live-action role-play, which in this case the extent you're arguing is that he used a stage name, which is supposed to make the case that he "thought of himself as a tough shit gung-ho cowboy." What specific movie you even have in mind that you think he's LARPing with, I don't know. He's not exactly Ethan Edwards or Hondo Lane in interviews.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You stated John Wayne was a persona, that was your own argument. I am not disputing that, rather you proved my point. Arguments don't just exist for you to win them, bud. Close the case and move on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Your argument was that he carried a persona he developed for movies into his personal life and became it. As far as I could tell, your example of this was an anecdote about him "almost attacking" someone at an award ceremony (and she was almost raped, too!). Was there anything more to this?
And Beethoven hasn't been active in 200 years but he's still one of the most famous musicians of all time
2 years ago
Anonymous
You ain't comparing John Wayne to Beethoven dog lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
In terms of popularity in their respective mediums, I am. The frick are you even trying to argue now? You don't have to personally like John Wayne to accept that he has longstanding international fame.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I never said he didn't, but if you think people in 200 years will talk about him like people talk about Beethoven now you're a fricking idiot
2 years ago
Anonymous
When people talk about Golden Age Hollywood, of course they'll talk about John Wayne. Again, what are you trying to argue here? >In 200 years, they won't be talking about Beethoven at the BET rap music awards!
Listen to yourself
His actual acting is hit or miss. Sometimes he phones it in, sometimes he really puts in a good performance.
He's not like Steven Seagal though; he always had a good humor about himself.
>cowboy Jackie Chan
Nail on the head. Jackie Chan even makes reference to him in numerous of his films lol. He is well known in parts of the world that had television in the 70s.
He was probably the single most recognized American figure in the world until maybe Michael Jackson, so that has to count for something
In terms of popularity in their respective mediums, I am. The frick are you even trying to argue now? You don't have to personally like John Wayne to accept that he has longstanding international fame.
Nah, in South America (and probably most of the world as well) people don’t know who the frick John Wayne is. People do know Chaplin and Michael Jackson and Tom Cruise though. They are definitely more famous than John Wayne, by far
>just to be polite. Let me tell you something that might be a bit dangerous. I was raised in Japan. I was schooled in martial arts. I was given the title of master. They take a movie “The Last Samurai.” They have a 5-foot-2-inch little guy, whether he was straight or gay, I don’t know. I don’t care. He had never been to Japan. He doesn’t speak Japanese. He has never held a sword. They make him the Last Samurai. We got 450,000 phone calls [laughs]from everybody in the world saying, “That role was perfect for you. How did that happen?” Most of the people I know didn’t like the film and didn’t go see it. It’s just a classic example of Hollywood and the politics.
Cruise is on a whole different level from other actors in terms of image.
If you saw Brad Pitt or Leonardo at the grocery store, you’d be like, “oh shit it’s Brad Pitt, that’s pretty cool.” You can imagine yourself having a beer with those guys.
But if you saw Tom Cruise you’d be genuinely starstruck, like it wasn’t actually happening. The dude doesn’t seem human. He’s managed to keep the mystique that movie stars used to have prior to the advent of the internet and social media.
I actually researched recently a theory that he's the only actor who has been an A-lister for five consecutive decades, which is insane. By the way this doesn't mean he has been in movies for a long time, this means he has been the MAIN STAR of the movie for a long time. From the 1980s to the 2020s he has been the face in the poster of practically all his movies. No other actor comes close. The only other who could ever be considered is John Wayne, who was a star from the 1930s to the early 1970s. But his breakout role was actually Stagecoach in 1939 so the 30s barely count, making it four decades.
The scary thing is that Cruise doesn't seem to be stopping, since Maverick has been the biggest hit of his career 40 years after debuting. And he might genuinely still be making hits in the 2030s.
To me there's no discussion that he's the greatest movie star of all time.
I'll give you until Gran Torino (2008). He hasn't really been an actor (or an A-lister) since then. His work as a director doesn't count. But yeah, Clint is pretty impressive, although his movies aren't really blockbusters on the level and budget of Cruise's.
Harrison Ford was big in the 70s and 80s, then fell to secondary characters in the 90s, and then fell off starting in 2000. Cruise has been the leading man since the 80s.
Sci-fi about the edge of the galaxy/universe/etc Heart of Darkness theme. I know it's overdone and Pitt just did it a couple years ago but I live the story archetype.
Slightly pre midevil. Cruise is on aging prince in line, but has sketch younger brother. The king is old as breasts, but just wont die. Moderate public confidence crisis
Event happens that makes cruise question his ability to lead. He goes on a quest, comes back to see younger brother leading.
Im drawing a blank from where to go from there. Also not sure how long the quest of returning confidence for cruise should take.
Or what the quest should be. Could be outside the kingdom. But i was thinking it should be inside the kingdom
Which would mean maybe cruise never leaves, but instead, because of the earlier said event, he gives up the throne.
With ultimately cruise becoming a changes man and best king
Man, I really thought Tom Cruise was an overrated famous actor and only gets roles for his name alone.. But after watching him in the Last Samurai, Tropic Thunder, and knowing he does all of his stunts I have a lot of respect for him.
But I think there's something wrong with him. I think he's a sociopath.
Literal third worlder here. I agree with OP that it is either Tom Cruise or Charlie Chaplin. >Di Caprio
He might have been the most recognisable during the Titanic fame, but not so much now. >Brad Pitt >John Wayne >Johnny Depp
Literal whos over here. Even RDJ is more famous lmao
I care, cause the general looked and sounded like a complete tard in every scene he was in when he could have been a chad like bill paxton. Definitely a missed opportunity to make a great movie better
what makes Cruise so great to me isn't just that he is a great actor, a huge star or has amazing charisma
to me, what makes him stand out is his passion for the craft. Top Gun Maverick was only as good as I was because Cruise demanded that they film in real fighter jets. He's not just a star but a genuine artiste which is a very rare combo. Brad Pitt is the only one who comes close but Cruise is bigger than Pitt
Scientology is bunk but getting "clear" is the first major milestone, so much so that their jargon includes terms like "preclear" and "post-clear".
You're supposed to get superpowers like levitating and being able to read thoughts and instantly know how to do things and other cool shit. The basic idea is that you're seeing through this bullshit world that Xenu/(read: the Demiurge) has trapped your mind in, and you're seeing the Matrix for what it really is so you can bend shit. Back in the 70's my dad had a friend who fell for it, and this guy wouldn't practice guitar because "once I'm clear I'll know it instantly".
Then come the Operating Thetan levels. You pay to do courses and gain more occult knowledge/enhanced abilities. Certainly, Cruise's career of successfully doing his own stunts is evidence in favor of the whole "clear" business, but who knows. Cruise is currently OT8, last I checked, one of the highest levels that the cult has recognized in any human maybe outside of other select cult leadership. He's certainly their greatest advocate and ambassador, and they know it so they treat him very well. OT levels may go up to 12 or 15 or something like that, I've never looked into it in much detail.
I don't understand why in the final battle, Rita didn't at least take one grenade with her to blow up the alpha in hopes of getting some of its blood on her. Also why the hell did he wake up in the helicopter in the final reset.
ALSO how did Rita know that she lost her power bc you can't exactly test that out without killing yourself. Movie is really good but damn it has a bunch of plot holes
Literally no one, but for most famous people alive he is a competitor with Michael Jackson and Jesus Christ the Savior of Man, that’s how wildly popular Cruise is.
>Brando, Shwarzenegger, and Christopher Lee
Eh.. not really
For sure
I'm 36 and have no fricking clue who that is.
Shit opinion, just picked actors you liked and wanted to be in this thread. I forgive you.
You don't have to be a good actor or be in good movies to be famous. Robert Pattinson is much less popular now that he's doing decent movies. Jennifer Lawrence has zero talent but was probably the most popular actress for a while.
All the low level entertainment people that I've heard talk about Tom Cruise say he's really nice and supportive and not a prima donna. Bryan Callen told a story about talking to him and he said Tom seemed super interested in what he had to say and was really warm and friendly.
The whole western world knows him, the 3rd world love him too. And hes has got the big boys China ( he can even speak chinese ) and India too. Sure most of them probably know him because of WWE but hes an actor so he fits
I agree that the Rock is more popular in the west and also he's been a star for much longer and has already had movie success but its about popularity
The Rock may be more beloved but I believe more people in the world know who Cena is
>but I believe more people in the world know who Cena is
Why? The Rock's movies make frickloads of money internationally, far more than any film where Cena has played the lead.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay perhaps you are right, I didn't realise
https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/movies/how-dwayne-rock-johnson-rules-chinese-box-office-n890916
It's him then Leo and then currently Johnny depp. Leo fricked it by being in that shitty netflix movie last year
He couldn't be helped, after winning the Oscar he had to pay with his ass.
you're braindead
Hi Leo.
Definitely not Depp. I feel like a large, dumb chunk of the population doesn't know who Depp is. His movies also aren't that famous.
you're moronic lol https://youtu.be/0hx1j83pqsc
pitt is bigger than depp.
Charlie Chaplin
young people dont know charlie or jackie.
young people do know tom cruise.
OP said most famous.
I think it's actually Jackie Chan. If just America probably the Cruise.
Lol, yellow hands typed this.
he's right tho. Even in my shithole everybody knows Jackie Chan
Wut
cope
No, most kids today have no idea who Chan is, because it's been well over a decade since he was in anything big.
He technically was in a film so he is an actor.
This. Michael Jackson is the most famous person ever.
Tom Hanks>Tom Cruise. Johnny Depp is probably more famous than both, maybe Robert Downey Jr
>Michael Jackson is the most famous person ever.
Jesus? Socrates? Alexander? Caesar? Einstein? Hitler?
>Tom Hanks>Tom Cruise
Debatable but I don’t think so
>Johnny Depp is probably more famous than both
Quite the opposite, both are way more famous than Depp
>maybe Robert Downey Jr
Hell nah
MJ is more famous than everyone on that list besides Jesus. maybe Hitler. Muhammad too obvs.
We can take people like Chaplin, babe ruth, elvis and they're icons. no one really knows what they did.
as for the heart throbs, Johnny Depp always got women, he always had real women throwing their breasts and ass at him. DiCaprio got little girls and Pitt got old ladies who knew they were dried up semen sponges and saw him as the ass in the relationship.
Johnny got prime women
>MJ is more famous than everyone on that list besides Jesus
>maybe hitler
>most famous person EVER
do you know what EVER means? What are you moronic? Do you think the entire world is shartistan? China has 2 billion people and I bet you fricking Confucius is more famous than Michael Jackson there. Jackie Chan for sure is. And that’s just China.
>We can take people like Chaplin, babe ruth, elvis and they're icons. no one really knows what they did.
Confirmed fat who lives in a bubble. Did you seriously put babe ruth in the same list as Chaplin and Elvis? For international level fame? I guarantee you nobody knows who the frick what the frick a babe ruth is 10km away from amerikkka's borders.
this. I have no idea who she is but she sounds fat
>China
I shit you not they prob know MJ - if Japan, Korea aren't any different.
>Chaplin, Ruth
They're both international literally whos, Chaplin only slightly more known in like europe cuz of the political speech
>Maybe Hitler
Yes, you don't comprehend how much time passes and less new generations care about history especially internationally where countries never got involved directly with germany. You really think you'd know someone like Himmler or the Beer Putsch unless they put it in a fricking test?
Only artists, charlatans and that sort have the chance to be recognizable because art and entertainment are culturally spread, economically efficient in transmitting information
>Michael Jackson is the most famous person ever.
JPII
What does The Lost World Jurassic Park have to do with Michael Jackson?
I think it's gotta be Michael Jackson as well. I remember watching a video where they show a bunch of stuff to tribal people in the Amazon rainforest. They didn't know about 9/11, didn't recognize Zidane, had never seen the moon landing footage. But they knew who Michael Jackson was.
I saw that. Mind blowing.
He went to brazil you moronic homosexual
How does that make it any less impressive, you wienersucking troony?
This is the correct answer. Cruise is big but nowhere near Jackson at his peak.
Cruise is literally the pinnacle of a "movie star". he has an intangible quality to him that makes him seem more than human. With every other celebrity this image is meticulously manufactured and managed, but with Cruise it's just his natural state of being.
He has (super)natural charisma
are you serious
yes and i'm right
digits of truth
Tom Cruise is the closest thing we have to a Primarch
>emperor never mentioned the 11th’s primarch and wiped him from everyone’s mind because he’s a Primanlet
>Tom Cruise is the closest thing we have to a Primarch
>Pinnacle movie star worth hundreds of millions of dollars
>High Charisma with a strangle intangible quality that makes him seem more than human
>Adored by millions even after several traitorous scandals
>Was involved in a SCIENCE based religious cult.
>The Emperor hide him away and erased knowledge of the 11th Primarch because of his inferior height.
Based and Tompilled
>With every other celebrity this image is meticulously manufactured and managed, but with Cruise it's just his natural state of being
You can't possibly think this still especially after all his early 2000s controversies
that proves the point.
He has that status despite the crazy stuff that leaked, because even in that he had crazy charisma.
Cruise literally has psycho Chad energy, he is constantly exuding psychotic vibes. You can see in his eyes that he is simply more, inside. You talk to him and he immediately starts dominating your soul. He does it to everyone, so often he doesn’t even realize he is doing it.
His presence is an astral vortex, people just cant helped but be sucked in.
Like what? He said he didn’t like psychiatry and he got very excited on Oprah’s couch for his next A lister slampig, by all metrics that’s not controversial compared to what actors have survived. It was “big” because it was about cruise at all. He could’ve said he loved fricking black women in the top gun jet he keeps in his garage and it’d have been just as wildly discussed. It’s because Tom Cruise said it that it mattered.
i don't think he's a real person anymore. scientology does things to you
You dont help out friends with alcoholism by actively getting them to engage with your activities (not scientology related) and be a bad person.
Even the best of people cant deal with addicts.
We all know how serious cruise is about movies. Pegg would show up drunk to scenes.
Cruise couldve had him gone with a finger wave. Instead, he takes him to the gym. Pegg ends up grateful
That fact alone sets the sails of the cruise ship for me
And frick you if you disagree
He even gave back his golden globes because he thought they were prejudice
I was completely wrong about this post
But i still whole heartedly defend tom cruise
Brad Pitt
Di Caprio
tfw nobody talks about the movie Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt were both in and played gay vampires
Vampirism is syphilis, in any age homos transmitted the AIDS of their time at a much higher rate, therefore vampirism == syphilis == homosexuality
There are weekly interview threads brother
Brad Pitt, way more famous than Cruise, show anyone both of their faces and chances are they'll recognize Pitt's and not Cruise's more
Funny you say that. I went to watch Top Gun with my friend and they played a brad pitt movie trailer and my friend asked who was that, cause he saw him somewhere but couldn’t remember where or who it was.
Cruise has an unique face. Brad Pitt looks like a thousand of other blonde blue eyed hunks. Idk Pitt's phenotype feel very common but Cruise's face is unique and unmistakable
Brad Pitt is a great actor, forget about his looks.
I think he meant his look as in, facial traits that very few people have, and ones that are specific to a person.
>not cage
Weird but okay
Indian men have been going to barbers to get the tom cruise cut since the eighties
Which one? For me it's the Vanilla Sky cut
Sir, this is one is impossible to get and the slightest wind undoes it.
>haircut impossible
how fricking short is that woman
she legit has to be at least 4'9
>doesn't know Penelope Cruz
a man of taste
Chaplin
Wayne
Eastwood
Cruise
W Smith
That israelite chaplin doesn't deserve to be on that list as he was shit and only succeeded due to his tribal connections.
Chaplin was not israeli
>Wayne
I always heard or read from boomers about how this guy was just so famous, as in at the mount olympus of fame, etc. but barely ever saw people talking about his movies themselves. Unlike Chaplin or even Eastwood.
I have a feeling that's true for you of most things that existed before 2002.
>I have a feeling that's true for you of most things that existed before 2002.
Uhh not really, I literally just gave two examples (Chaplin and Eastwood), its just Wayne
He was shitting out movies at a time when there weren't many, the reason they can't name any is because most weren't good.
Honestly it’s Depp. multiple films that millennials and zoomers obsess over. X’ers love his actual kino, and now the trial set him over the top. There isn’t any other actor that would be getting this level of worldwide love rn.
Brando
Eastwood
DiCaprio
Brad Pitt
Shah Rukh Khan
Charlie Chaplin
Jackie Chan
>Shah Rukh Khan
literally who?
Biggest actor in Asia, billions of people know him he's definitely the biggest star alive
No, pajeet is actually right on this one. They cast SRK in literally half of all Bollywood blockbusters in the late 1990s and 2000s. We don’t really have an equivalent in the West for how much this weird lipped dude got spammed
good morning sir
MAAM
>Shah Rukh Khan
This. SRK is more famous outside America than Tom Cruise
Does he have a significant following outside of India?
In bollywood watching countries yes. Not in the developed world. I only found out about him when the 7-11 cashier mentioned him one time and I had to ask what he was talking about, thought it was his cousin.
>outside America
aka poo in the loodistan and curryland
>a literal who vs Tom Cruise
The rest of the world doesn’t deserve our kino
Whoever that guy is he's unknown outside of India.
t. Non American
>picrel
He said most famous not best, nobody fricking knows about based 'Kinoman' Graham.
Why was he late?
Looks like he took the Alex Jones pill, been smashing those Infowars supplements.
Orson Welles
Errol Flynn
Burt Reynolds
Olivia DeHavilland
Barbara Stanwyck
Ruth Gordon
And of course, the great Nikki Blonsky.
Did I fall for troony bait here?
>Errol Flynn
>Olivia DeHavilland
>Barbara Stanwyck
>Ruth Gordon
>Nikki Blonsky.
who are these people
Nikki Blonsky from HairSpray the movie!
Put some respect’ on Robin Hood’s name.
Errol Flynn is a goddamn legend you heathen zoomer
Was gonna say Welles but I fear youngsters don't know who he is, sad frickin state of affairs.
>Olivia DeHavilland
>Barbara Stanwyck
>Ruth Gordon
>And of course, the great Nikki Blonsky.
Literally fricking who?
i got warned for posting this, but i agree with OP
is that actually >him
no you moron
I would literally kill that troony for making look bad, would sneak up to his apartment one night and drag him to the roof then kick him off, nobody will believe i did it, they’ll be like it’s a troon of course it’s a suicide by mental illnesses case
>that failed tackle
Absolutely brutal.
Low key might be Rowan Atkinson
Mr Bean is famous EVERYWHERE
Fair play, probably this actually. Bean is the fricking man even African grass-folk can probably appreciate that humor.
Actually, it's Michael Jackson but because of his music.
for me it's steve mcqueen
John Wayne is a pretty big contender.
>His status grew so large and legendary that when Japanese Emperor Hirohito visited the United States in 1975, he asked to meet John Wayne, the symbolic representation of his country's former enemy.[164] Likewise when Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev visited the United States in 1959, he made two requests: to visit Disneyland and meet Wayne.[165]
>Wayne is the only actor to appear in every edition of the annual Harris Poll of Most Popular Film Actors, and the only actor to appear on the list after his death. Wayne was in the top 10 in this poll for 19 consecutive years, starting in 1994, 15 years after his death.[169]
this aint the 70s anymore
"Most famous of all time" doesn't mean who's currently trending on TikTok.
then it must include the future which makes it impossible to answer
Nobody gives a shit about some overweight boomer cowboy wannabe
He was probably the single most recognized American figure in the world until maybe Michael Jackson, so that has to count for something
Are you living in 1988?
How long have you been alive? The world didn't start yesterday
John Wayne will be forgotten like the obese racist hack he was
Don’t @ me
And now it comes out. All criticism of John Wayne has nothing to do with the guy himself, you haven't even seen his movies, you just have an idea of him as some stereotypical superchud to direct your hate towards.
Dude he's baiting. That being said John Wayne basically got so into his acting he started LARPing IRL thinking he was some top shit gung ho cowboy.
>That being said John Wayne basically got so into his acting he started LARPing IRL thinking he was some top shit gung ho cowboy.
What do you mean?
He tried to attack Sacheen Littlefeather who read Brandos acceptance speech at the 1973 Oscars in
Well off the bat I don't see how that's related to what you previously claimed, but I read that viral tweet to. As far as I'm aware, there's no evidence of it or even a reasonable description of the supposed event. He "almost attacked her" from 200 feet away or something?
I mean he thought he was some top shit gung ho cowboy. He even bragged that his acting method was just him being himself. There are many actors that lose their marbles due to fame and think they are the character they portray, he's one of them.
>I mean he thought he was some top shit gung ho cowboy.
What does that mean though?
>He even bragged that his acting method was just him being himself.
He's talked openly about "John Wayne" being a persona he invented (and one that has served him well).
"I figured I needed a gimmick, so I went to work on this Wayne character, I dreamed up the drawl, the squint and the way of moving. I even had to practice saying 'ain't"
"I've found the character the average man wants himself, his brother or his kid to be"
So, what are you talking about?
>He's talked openly about "John Wayne" being a persona he invented
John Wayne wasn't a character he played in a movie though, that was the name he went by as an actor. You proved my point about him LARPing, which is what I stated. He LARPed.
That was your point all along? Nothing to do with his personality but just the fact that he used a stage name? Oh man, you really got him there.
I can tell you are a boomer from the fact you seemingly do not understand what LARPing is.
Live-action role-play, which in this case the extent you're arguing is that he used a stage name, which is supposed to make the case that he "thought of himself as a tough shit gung-ho cowboy." What specific movie you even have in mind that you think he's LARPing with, I don't know. He's not exactly Ethan Edwards or Hondo Lane in interviews.
You stated John Wayne was a persona, that was your own argument. I am not disputing that, rather you proved my point. Arguments don't just exist for you to win them, bud. Close the case and move on.
Your argument was that he carried a persona he developed for movies into his personal life and became it. As far as I could tell, your example of this was an anecdote about him "almost attacking" someone at an award ceremony (and she was almost raped, too!). Was there anything more to this?
No but he hasn't been active for like 50 years
And Beethoven hasn't been active in 200 years but he's still one of the most famous musicians of all time
You ain't comparing John Wayne to Beethoven dog lmao
In terms of popularity in their respective mediums, I am. The frick are you even trying to argue now? You don't have to personally like John Wayne to accept that he has longstanding international fame.
I never said he didn't, but if you think people in 200 years will talk about him like people talk about Beethoven now you're a fricking idiot
When people talk about Golden Age Hollywood, of course they'll talk about John Wayne. Again, what are you trying to argue here?
>In 200 years, they won't be talking about Beethoven at the BET rap music awards!
Listen to yourself
braindead
I get Steven Seagal vibes from this guy. Is he actually a good actor or is he just cowboy Jackie Chan
His actual acting is hit or miss. Sometimes he phones it in, sometimes he really puts in a good performance.
He's not like Steven Seagal though; he always had a good humor about himself.
>cowboy Jackie Chan
Nail on the head. Jackie Chan even makes reference to him in numerous of his films lol. He is well known in parts of the world that had television in the 70s.
Incredible actor that made a lot of shit movies bearable or entertaining. Don't listen to the homosexual zoomers here
Nah, in South America (and probably most of the world as well) people don’t know who the frick John Wayne is. People do know Chaplin and Michael Jackson and Tom Cruise though. They are definitely more famous than John Wayne, by far
Nobody under 50 who isn't a huge film nerd knows who he is.
Only the youngest zoomers don't at least know the name "John Wayne"
>just to be polite. Let me tell you something that might be a bit dangerous. I was raised in Japan. I was schooled in martial arts. I was given the title of master. They take a movie “The Last Samurai.” They have a 5-foot-2-inch little guy, whether he was straight or gay, I don’t know. I don’t care. He had never been to Japan. He doesn’t speak Japanese. He has never held a sword. They make him the Last Samurai. We got 450,000 phone calls [laughs]from everybody in the world saying, “That role was perfect for you. How did that happen?” Most of the people I know didn’t like the film and didn’t go see it. It’s just a classic example of Hollywood and the politics.
>literal who gets buttmad
no1 cares
Cruise is on a whole different level from other actors in terms of image.
If you saw Brad Pitt or Leonardo at the grocery store, you’d be like, “oh shit it’s Brad Pitt, that’s pretty cool.” You can imagine yourself having a beer with those guys.
But if you saw Tom Cruise you’d be genuinely starstruck, like it wasn’t actually happening. The dude doesn’t seem human. He’s managed to keep the mystique that movie stars used to have prior to the advent of the internet and social media.
I actually researched recently a theory that he's the only actor who has been an A-lister for five consecutive decades, which is insane. By the way this doesn't mean he has been in movies for a long time, this means he has been the MAIN STAR of the movie for a long time. From the 1980s to the 2020s he has been the face in the poster of practically all his movies. No other actor comes close. The only other who could ever be considered is John Wayne, who was a star from the 1930s to the early 1970s. But his breakout role was actually Stagecoach in 1939 so the 30s barely count, making it four decades.
The scary thing is that Cruise doesn't seem to be stopping, since Maverick has been the biggest hit of his career 40 years after debuting. And he might genuinely still be making hits in the 2030s.
To me there's no discussion that he's the greatest movie star of all time.
Eastwood did 6, 7 maybe with cry macho idk haven't seen it not sure if he was the lead
I'll give you until Gran Torino (2008). He hasn't really been an actor (or an A-lister) since then. His work as a director doesn't count. But yeah, Clint is pretty impressive, although his movies aren't really blockbusters on the level and budget of Cruise's.
He did The Mule in 2018 which was really good and a fairly large budget film
Sylvester Stallone has 6 decades as an A-Lister.
Cruise, Harrison Ford, John Wayne, Chaplin, Brad Pitt, Leonardo diCaprio, Cruise is overall the most successful.
Harrison Ford was big in the 70s and 80s, then fell to secondary characters in the 90s, and then fell off starting in 2000. Cruise has been the leading man since the 80s.
Han Solo and Indiana Jones
Reprising lead in a really poorly received sequel and reprising a now side character in a moderately received sequel.
Plus those were his 2 major films in a 15 year span
>doesn't mention Clark Gable
Spotted the pseud.
Brads Pitt and Tom Cruise yes. Everyone else is literal whos. Maybe DeCaprio but not by much.
>Nolan and Cruise do a movie together with a $200 million budget
What do you want it to be about?
Sci-fi about the edge of the galaxy/universe/etc Heart of Darkness theme. I know it's overdone and Pitt just did it a couple years ago but I live the story archetype.
Slightly pre midevil. Cruise is on aging prince in line, but has sketch younger brother. The king is old as breasts, but just wont die. Moderate public confidence crisis
Event happens that makes cruise question his ability to lead. He goes on a quest, comes back to see younger brother leading.
Im drawing a blank from where to go from there. Also not sure how long the quest of returning confidence for cruise should take.
Or what the quest should be. Could be outside the kingdom. But i was thinking it should be inside the kingdom
Which would mean maybe cruise never leaves, but instead, because of the earlier said event, he gives up the throne.
With ultimately cruise becoming a changes man and best king
Dwayne Johnson lol
Jared Leto
Man, I really thought Tom Cruise was an overrated famous actor and only gets roles for his name alone.. But after watching him in the Last Samurai, Tropic Thunder, and knowing he does all of his stunts I have a lot of respect for him.
But I think there's something wrong with him. I think he's a sociopath.
most movie stars are
Brand Pitt or George Clooney, though it seems like Clooney fell off the map a while back.
Clooney's too busy setting up his orbital cannon to wipe Syria off the map.
No you stupid homosexual.
John Wayne
He's and Tom Hanks are the only actors on the 10 with the highest grossing earnings to have never done capeshit.
Literal third worlder here. I agree with OP that it is either Tom Cruise or Charlie Chaplin.
>Di Caprio
He might have been the most recognisable during the Titanic fame, but not so much now.
>Brad Pitt
>John Wayne
>Johnny Depp
Literal whos over here. Even RDJ is more famous lmao
Michael Jordan and it's not even close.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA it's not 1996 anymore fgt
I think Pele is more well known in america than Jordan is known in Brazil
I need to knowwww nowwww
This guy was really miscast. Should have been more like Quaritch from avatar
who cares, it had bill paxton hamming it up like it was true lies. that alone was worth the price of admission.
I care, cause the general looked and sounded like a complete tard in every scene he was in when he could have been a chad like bill paxton. Definitely a missed opportunity to make a great movie better
Elvis
name a more kino ending
>I NEED TO KNOW NOW
>NEED TO KNOW NOW
what makes Cruise so great to me isn't just that he is a great actor, a huge star or has amazing charisma
to me, what makes him stand out is his passion for the craft. Top Gun Maverick was only as good as I was because Cruise demanded that they film in real fighter jets. He's not just a star but a genuine artiste which is a very rare combo. Brad Pitt is the only one who comes close but Cruise is bigger than Pitt
Once you're post-Clear you can really tap into your full potential and self-actualize. And Cruise has been post-Clear for a long time.
red pill me on being post-Clear scientologist bro
Scientology is bunk but getting "clear" is the first major milestone, so much so that their jargon includes terms like "preclear" and "post-clear".
You're supposed to get superpowers like levitating and being able to read thoughts and instantly know how to do things and other cool shit. The basic idea is that you're seeing through this bullshit world that Xenu/(read: the Demiurge) has trapped your mind in, and you're seeing the Matrix for what it really is so you can bend shit. Back in the 70's my dad had a friend who fell for it, and this guy wouldn't practice guitar because "once I'm clear I'll know it instantly".
Then come the Operating Thetan levels. You pay to do courses and gain more occult knowledge/enhanced abilities. Certainly, Cruise's career of successfully doing his own stunts is evidence in favor of the whole "clear" business, but who knows. Cruise is currently OT8, last I checked, one of the highest levels that the cult has recognized in any human maybe outside of other select cult leadership. He's certainly their greatest advocate and ambassador, and they know it so they treat him very well. OT levels may go up to 12 or 15 or something like that, I've never looked into it in much detail.
John Wayne
I don't understand why in the final battle, Rita didn't at least take one grenade with her to blow up the alpha in hopes of getting some of its blood on her. Also why the hell did he wake up in the helicopter in the final reset.
ALSO how did Rita know that she lost her power bc you can't exactly test that out without killing yourself. Movie is really good but damn it has a bunch of plot holes
John Wayne or Ronald Regan
Literally no one, but for most famous people alive he is a competitor with Michael Jackson and Jesus Christ the Savior of Man, that’s how wildly popular Cruise is.
Since you didn't specify gender.
The answer is Marilyn Monroe.
Most famous recognizable starlette ever.
Infamous for a supposed affair with the president of the United States.
Multiple Biopics brought to screen about her life.
Immortalized in Art ( Warhol Portrait )
Immortalized in Song ( Candle in the Wind - Elton John )
First ever Playboy Centerfold
The answer is Trump.
>Acted in famous movies
>President
>Was on front page of the news for 4 years
>Literally Hitler
The affair never happened.
He’s the actor most obsessed with being a movie star, specifically of the 80s
Nobody's said Arnold yet?
I'd say he's definitely up there.
Compared to Tom, no, Tom's longevity means he is way way more known now
He probably was the number one in the 80s and the first half of the 90s, but his movie career is in the dumps now.
Elvis
Trump is more famous. lol
>Thomas Mapother IV
Fricking kino ending
garbage movie
how?
garbage post
People named "Tom" are unstoppable. It is well-known.
Harry Potter
Donald J. Trump
Brando, Shwarzenegger, and Christopher Lee are very serious contenders.
The only good movies cruise has been in are The Last Samurai and Eyes Wide Shut.
>Brando, Shwarzenegger, and Christopher Lee
Eh.. not really
For sure
I'm 36 and have no fricking clue who that is.
Shit opinion, just picked actors you liked and wanted to be in this thread. I forgive you.
>Brando, Shwarzenegger, and Christopher Lee
What year do you think it is?
>Brando, Shwarzenegger, and Christopher Lee are very serious contenders.
all of their fame is long gone, Cruise still lives on
You don't have to be a good actor or be in good movies to be famous. Robert Pattinson is much less popular now that he's doing decent movies. Jennifer Lawrence has zero talent but was probably the most popular actress for a while.
All the low level entertainment people that I've heard talk about Tom Cruise say he's really nice and supportive and not a prima donna. Bryan Callen told a story about talking to him and he said Tom seemed super interested in what he had to say and was really warm and friendly.
RDJ easily, Tom Holland also has a gazillion followers
the thing is, boomers unironically don't recognize them, my grandparents have no idea who they are but they know who Cruise is.
agreed. I think john cena is a close 2nd.
Top fricking kek.
The whole western world knows him, the 3rd world love him too. And hes has got the big boys China ( he can even speak chinese ) and India too. Sure most of them probably know him because of WWE but hes an actor so he fits
he definitely is in the euro-afro sphere, i think someone like hulk hogan is more international.
The guy can't even headline a movie. The Rock is far more well known.
I agree that the Rock is more popular in the west and also he's been a star for much longer and has already had movie success but its about popularity
The Rock may be more beloved but I believe more people in the world know who Cena is
>but I believe more people in the world know who Cena is
Why? The Rock's movies make frickloads of money internationally, far more than any film where Cena has played the lead.
Okay perhaps you are right, I didn't realise
https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/movies/how-dwayne-rock-johnson-rules-chinese-box-office-n890916
Vin Diesel is in the top 10. The F&F films are massive in many thirdie countries and China.
Figures that low IQ subhumans would love the fast and the furious movies.
>John Wayne
a cultural icon
>Clint Eastwood
also an icon
>Ronal Reagan
known more as a president than a movie star
>Schwarzenegger
>Mel Gibson
>Cruise
Nobody cares about some homosexual actors like Depp, Leo, Pit
You don't need to be a detective to figure this one out.
As if anyone can come close to Buster Keaton
Christopher Miloni of course