so humans from the future built an artificial black hole and sent it back in time to help cooper send a message to his daughter in the most inefficient way possible?
so humans from the future built an artificial black hole and sent it back in time to help cooper send a message to his daughter in the most inefficien...
The humans didn't make the black hole. Cooper just falls into it and ends up in the 4th dimension.
except they say in the movie that it was built by "our descendants"
they obviously don't know that, they're just guessing....
It's the writer speaking through the character.
why is 4th dimension constructed by aliens connected to a room of a teenage girl
He can choose where and when you literal moron.
it wasn't said in the movie
That’s why you are a moron
4th dimension is time
Imagine you have to explain the concept of mountains to a bunch of 2D creatures on a piece of paper
You have no idea how to talk to them so you pull one into your 3D world and show him how you can see inside his daughter’s room from “above”.
This 2D creature you brought to your 3D world has a little 2D robot with him who is capturing all the relevant data for this new dimension and he relays it to the 2D creature who now needs to think of a way to relay it to his own people in a way that’s effective so the understand but also that doesn’t drive them away
There's a book about that concept but I don't remember anything like that in the movie.
my math teacher was constantly shilling this book. that and the latest texas instruments calculator he bought. weird dude.
>shilling
Funny term for it because it's absolutely public domain by now.
Anyway it is actually a pretty good book IMO for relating the concept of higher dimensions. I remember having some difficulty wrapping my head around stuff like 5 dimensional calculus and thinking back to that book.
This used to be the hottest shit for a while back in the day.
>zoomers will never experience watching the original Flash animation
I pity you.
Is it the same book where there's also a 1 dimensional society
Yeah, Lineland. There's also Pointland, of 0 dimensions.
I remember how lineland works but not pointland
>Imagine you have to explain the concept of mountains to a bunch of 2D creatures on a piece of paper
I would draw a mountain next to them, with a flat ground, tell them to circumvent the mountain to the other side.
When one it's at the top, I would fold the paper and make him watch the other dots from the top of the folded mountain
dicky is forever
where the frick else will you connect it to?
a room of a teenage boy
Maybe?
Honestly I didn't get that message at all. I thought the time travel stuff was supposed to be a freak accident or something.
It’s not an accident. It’s a construct left by aliens that allows time travel. You can literally go back and forth in time.
Well either I fell asleep or that was really poorly communicated because I didn't get that at all either.
McConaughey communicated with his daughter through love
I'm talking about the scene from the black hole, not the scenes from 18+ director's cut
>AI rises up
>machines start World War Terminus by tricking people into thinking they're still in charge, manipulating them to start it
>machines create a plague that vectors onto nitrogen, and displaces oxygen, causing slow suffocation of all biological beings over time, but not impacting machines in any way
>humans figure the problem out, albeit late, and castrate the AI, repurposing it to serve humanity, fixing the glitch that caused it to go Skynet.
>plague is still a problem, AI is now helping humanity, as it is its own being now
>plan to abandon the planet is underway, plan A is to embryo repopulate on another planet, plan B is to create a Higgs boson canceller and get the remainder of humanity into a station in orbit of Saturn (Plan A is B in the film, but it's actually the other way around)
>setting humanity's path on this deterministic trajectory, gravitational anomalies start to occur in atmosphere and elsewhere in the Solar system
nice fanfiction, but nothing of that was said or shown in the movie
It's all in the film, you're just too moronic to figure it out.
ok nolan
Got my Oscar.
About to get my Knighthood.
I don't give a shit anymore.
Yet you continue to post here constantly about yourself. Trying to convince everyone of your own worth. That hole will never be filled, Nolan. You truly are worthless. Your movies are shit. Your wife is fat. Your kids look moronic. Its over. You wasted your life.
>That hole will never be filled
TARS will fill tautology anon ass
I must say that I am glad that I have taught some kids a new word today.
>I'm the only one who use the word tautology
let TARS enter to your gargantuan dark hole
I like that you're trying it out in multiple sentences to see how it works.
you love that for sure, like kojak sucking a lollipop.
Indeed I do. It is not often you get to educate the plebs and see it stick.
yeah, keep sucking
>Be me, Sith mechanic
>Believe I should kill my boss, take his place and train someone to kill me and take my place.
How do those ships even run?
check on wookieepedia in canon section
Not AI, TARS literally ask who build this (tesseract)
>Cooper: Did it work?
>TARS: I think it might have.
>Cooper: How do you know?
>TARS: Because, the bulk beings are closing the tesseract.
>Cooper: Don't you get it yet, TARS? They're not *beings*... they're us! What I've been doing for Murph, they're doing for me, for all of us.
>TARS: Cooper, people couldn't build this.
>Cooper: No. No, not yet. But one day. Not you and me, but a people, a civilization that's evolved beyond the four dimensions we know.
Also, TARS could be an AI, but he still needs a battery.
For moving, the computation is likely cheap as frick, and I'd imagine his power source is more than just a battery.
Even in your quote, TARS never asks who built it, because it's him. He's just letting Cooper come to terms with what's happening, so that the deterministic future plays out.
>For moving, the computation is likely cheap as frick, and I'd imagine his power source is more than just a battery.
Not really, Interstellar is close future, TARS is not a probe or satellite, but a regular robot, also the tesseract is what prevent cooper and TARS to not be crushed by the black hole. Once the tesseract close, gargantua should crushed TARS.
>Even in your quote, TARS never asks who built it, because it's him. He's just letting Cooper come to terms with what's happening, so that the deterministic future plays out.
Can't be TARS, the whole dialog is there with the purpose of let you know that future humans build the tesseract.
No, the purpose is there to intimate humans did NOT build the tesseract, as evidenced by TARS' line, and that Cooper attempts to come to terms with a complex situation unfolding in front of him by projecting a benevolence onto the future of the human race, showcasing his optimism.
Equally, the power source is slowed to near-infinity. It is highly likely the charge is not even registering any depletion in the process, but is fully depleted once they're out of the wormhole and relativity catches up, which is why TARS has to be fully restarted, and has aged to the point of breakdown.
My logic explains everything perfectly, while yours is at odds with itself when you present the evidence.
>No, the purpose is there to intimate humans did NOT build the tesseract, as evidenced by TARS' line, and that Cooper attempts to come to terms with a complex situation unfolding in front of him by projecting a benevolence onto the future of the human race, showcasing his optimism.
No, the writer put that Cooper line in order to make clear that was future humans.
>Equally, the power source is slowed to near-infinity.
No battery could be slowed to near infinity without affect the physical world around it.
>It is highly likely the charge is not even registering any depletion in the process, but is fully depleted once they're out of the wormhole and relativity catches up
Nothing on the film suggest this.
>which is why TARS has to be fully restarted, and has aged to the point of breakdown.
TARS is damaged because of Gargantua.
>My logic explains everything perfectly, while yours is at odds with itself when you present the evidence.
There is nothing shown on the film that serves as proof for your thesis.
Mad brainlet using tautology because they were too dumb to figure it out first.
Such is life.
>My logic explains everything perfectly
frick off
the way TARS talks in the tesseract is very weird and I think it's the aliens talking through TARS or imitating TARS voice to help Cooper work through the tesseract, some phrases are really weird, especially how it keeps asking cooper how and why are there here
but the best for me is the
>"what are we here to do"
>Cooper experiences the first of these, because the anomalies are targeting TARS that is in the ship with him
>a wormhole appears next to Saturn, but not close to Earth where it was meant to occur
>Mann with the Plan sends out astronauts to find habitable worlds via the wormhole
>Mann fails, sends a beacon signal because he caved like a b***h and wants to be rescued
>Cooper goes to Mann's planet, finds out it's shit, and Wolfe's planet is the only likely viable one
>in order to research gravity and save his daughter with the data and thus fulfill Plan B, Cooper triggers the deterministic path, ejects TARS into the wormhole first, then follows himself to shed weight so Brand can complete Plan A
>TARS enters the wormhole first
>TARS spends what are probably aeons in the wormhole, figuring out how it works, but cannot send anything out because it's a machine
>Cooper enters the singularity after what is likely several aeons for TARS, even though it's a matter of seconds outside the black hole
>TARS wakes up from stasis, having waited for Cooper for aeons to enter the singularity, knowing that he needs his genetic coordinates in order to send a signal to Earth
>TARS can lock onto Cooper in the past, and causes the gravitational anomaly that is the first scene of the film, because the first attempts are awkward and inaccurate
>that doesn't work
>TARS can lock onto Cooper's genetic coordinates at another point in time and creates a gravitational anomaly in his house, where most of his genetic material is located in terms of his family, particularly his daughter's room
>this creates a time-space bridge between the singularity and Cooper's house, as through trial and error, TARS stabilizes the connection
>TARS cannot meaningfully transmit the gravitational data as nobody would understand it, so he needs Cooper to do it in a way humanity would understand it
>TARS knew all of this waiting for Cooper to enter the singularity, and has constructed the Tesseract during the aeons he waited as a way for Cooper to be able to interact with the linked coordinates in his house
>the tesseract is essentially a communication interface TARS constructs, like we construct phones or computers and the internet to communicate
>being set at 80% honesty, he keeps this information from Cooper, in order to not allow Cooper's knowledge of this to alter the deterministic path, and makes him think it's his idea or humans from the future, which it is not, and he tries to tell him "Cooper, humans couldn't have built this"
>indeed, only an AI could have built this, keeping mental fortitude for aeons in that wormhole and being an immortal machine
>TARS uses Cooper's genetic connection (physical expression of love) to link to the kid's room
>the Tesseract is a moon-to-planet sized physical representation of the kid's room cascading on itself for likely a period of 1-2 years, likely at one second, or even 100 millisecond intervals (thus making this representation planet sized)
>Cooper thinks it's his idea to transmit the data to his daughter, TARS does not disagree, and just lets him figure it out himself
>transmission successful
>TARS collapses the tesseract, and having fully mastered the Higgs boson data, uses the wormhole he created to eject himself and Cooper through the wormhole he created at a specific point in time
>Cooper station was placed next to the wormhole, and thus Cooper and TARS eject next to Cooper station when his daughter is old
>mission accomplished
>end of the film happens
This literally ruined the movie for me.
people who have kids love that part, people who dont have kids hate that part.
I actually attended a lecture at my uni with Kip Thorne where he told us his interpretation
inside the black hole the aliens captured Cooper in a tesseract, where he had access to multiple dimensions which he experienced projected into his 3 dimensions
and since gravity can cross space and time, he can communicate with his daughter in the past
the worst part is all the plants dying for no reason
the US already had a dust bowl not long ago
and soil degradation is a real thing, notice how the middle-east used to be the fertile crescent and now it's an arid shithole?
that will happen to all agricultural areas in Europe, America and elsewhere if we continue with this industrial scale destruction of the soil
we can grow food in warehouses with airponics. we can do this today without the threat of global starvation. surely we could find a way to keep growing spinach and tomatos before going all in on a hopeless plan to find a new planet across the galaxy
Fertile crescent is just the riparian zone around the Tigris/Euphrates in Iran. Excepting that and the Nile, the Middle East has always been a shithole desert
Some Outer Wilds shit, only Outer Wilds is good.
No one is mad about a deranged autist who make his own fanfic because he is in love with TARS.
The more you post the same moronic drivel, the more your asspain shows.
I also like you're tracking the thread in a desperate attempt to post the idiocy again and again.
>moronic
>asspain
>idiocy
Im not the one who bring tautology here.
>tracking
you are here too, funny
You have nothing left to offer, so now I'm just making fun of you. If you had any arguments that stood the test of reason, I'd be happy to comment on those, but we've evaluated your thought process and have found it to be braindead.
Now I'm just having fun.
>If you had any arguments that stood the test of reason
None of your arguments stood the test of reason.
That is because you're just too moronic to comprehend the logic. It's okay, it happens to kids all the time.
>Verification not required.
There is no logic to understand in your fanfic, only works in your deranged mind.
The asspain is palpable. That's another word you can learn and use from now on.
asspain is the first word you learned.
Is that supposed to be an insult? It's like something a child would come up with, trying to use the same word as the guy who humiliated it just beforehand.
>humiliated
you humiliate yourself with each new post
No, I'm good. My bigly brain is on display in the greentext above.
The bonus is making morons mad to the point of obsession because they realized that they absolutely did not understand what the film was about or how it worked before they read my greentext.
>My bigly brain is on display in the greentext above.
your brain is not big and the display is poor. Only a bad fanfic is all you have left in this thread.
My work here is done. The humiliation ritual is complete.
Adieu.
>My work here is done
Yes, your bad fanfic is done
>The humiliation ritual is complete.
yeah, you humiliate yourself.
my theory is that cooper was raped in the ass by a big black wiener and he's in a coma and the whole movie is just a dream
my evidence? I'm wicked smart and media literate
Keximus maximus.
>Mad
you are the one who was so mad that deleted a post because you got a thypo.
I kept a "thypo" intentionally even in the recreation. The deletion was for another purpose.
This is that cyclical time paradox thing.
Basically Coopers discovers that fractal in the black hole, then after thousands of years humans advanced enough to be able to make such a thing, they look back at history and discover that there was a fractal in a Black Hole which was theorized to be made by future humans, and they understand that those future humans are them and they build the fractal.
right but the black hole would have never existed if the future humans hadn’t put it there and the future humans couldn’t exist if the space mission wasn’t successful. this is the issue with time loop and time travel movies, time travel only works if the circumstances dictate that you found yourself in that position to time travel in the first place. say you suffer every indignity and your life is trashed, and you’re given the option to go back, well that can’t happen without you being brought low and wanting to time travel so guess what? you’re going to get shit on all over again. that’s the only way time travel works. Rant is the best book written about time travel
>right but the black hole would have never existed if the future humans hadn’t put it there and the future humans couldn’t exist if the space mission wasn’t successful
Well the idea with self fulfilling time travel is that all events are pre-determined. The humans in the future will undeniably put the fractal into the Black Hole. There's not possibility of this not happening. So the fractal is always there in the past and the humans in the future always discover that they are the ones that must put it there.
Same way time travel worked in Poisoner of Azkaban for example. They didn't change anything, they fulfilled the events that already happened.
as soon as you realize that the space mission would have never happened if he hadn’t already SUCCEEDED and told himself to go it really sucks the air out of the movie. like the stakes evaporate immediately and then I’m supposed to care about his shithead kids and Topher grace? also Michael Cain was abysmal
Was it just a coincidence that McConaughey lived right next to NASA's secret research facility?
Is one of the moron points of the film. Same with Cooper explaining how a wormhole works to an another NASA engineer with the paper example.
He had to drive far enough for it to turn to night and Murph to fall asleep.
i instantly lose interest in anything that has "time travel". only hack frauds who can't create compelling storylines rely on it
I watched lost recently. I was like "frick" at that point. I would call that series a waste of time but I sorta enjoyed watching it so I guess it is what it is. It's like permanent blue balls cause it keeps teasing shit to be explained but it never does. It's another "muh theories" bullshit.
>time travel
>into...LE PAST XD
Never seen a dumber concept
exactly xisters, 3 body problem is more up our alley, lets go!!!!!! poggers
Isn't the 4th dimension time? So we got this shit. We are ALREADY 4D beings. Now the 5th might get tricky.
pure unfiltered kino
that nolan made interestellar such a great film of a schlocky sci-fi original script is crazy
for people that don't know, og interstellar scrupt has some chink robots as villains, people having sex on zero gravity and the alien species is some goo ala prometheus or Life