So i'm supposed to believe none of the criminal elite actually bothered to hire a superpowered villain like Rhino or Sandman to stop Frank?

So i'm supposed to believe none of the criminal elite actually bothered to hire a superpowered villain like Rhino or Sandman to stop Frank?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They fear him.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a better question is why didn't Captain America or Nick Fury just arrested him

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think they have before, I mean they killed him right before he got turned into a Frankenstein right?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Funny enough it was Norman Osborn during Dark Reign. He finally got fed up of Castle's fricking with him and turned all of HAMMER on him. Then he just told Daken, who was relatively new and Frank weirdly assumed he had no powers, to cut his shit up. So technically for once the government proved it could curb stomp Frank if it felt like it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Whether this is actually true, or Frank is just fricking with him, this is the explanation given in their rematch.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't remember it well but I think they more or less copied how MAX Kingpin tore up all Castle's shit so he had no where to go. But yeah "I MEANT to die and come back like this" is an all timer even for Frank.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nick Fury rends to use guys like him and Cap has done it but putting Frank in prison is like putting a fox in a hen house

      a better question is why doesn't this pussy ass b***h go after supervillains like Leader or Goblin. You know, the guys who kill THOUSANDS of people?

      Because they just get resurrected or saved by the heroes

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      a better question is why doesn't this pussy ass b***h go after supervillains like Leader or Goblin. You know, the guys who kill THOUSANDS of people?

      Boneheaded questions with boneheaded excuses for answers.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm pretty sure those are all sarcasm, it's simple, plot, he's not in jail due to plot, he's not dead due to plot, just like how even after murdering a thousand thugs the guy didn't made any difference. It's just a stupid comic that makes no sense.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because street level gangs that Frank deals with is beneath Nick Fury's paycheck

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nick fury has also worked with the punisher on several occasions
        he might just turn a blind eye to the punisher

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      didn't they? in DDevil: End of Days he's prison but it's like a what-if graphic novel

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fury kept Frank as part of his back-up plan for Latveria. Drop him off at one end, Hulk at the other, and let them meet in the middle.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To be fair, the Russian with the big titty new body was strong enough to knock out Spider-Man.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a better question is why doesn't this pussy ass b***h go after supervillains like Leader or Goblin. You know, the guys who kill THOUSANDS of people?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He does.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because when you take the bigger picture into account almost every comic story starts falling apart. Therefore solo runs should be treated as separate universes with occasional cameos

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Superhero comics are milked so dry that they're really stupid at this point

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The funny thing is that like 95% of Spider-Man's villains can get a bullet to the head from a sniper and that'd be it. It doesn't happen because comics have to keep going and superheroes can't look ineffective next to some guy with a rifle.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Any villain who's not impervious to bullets would be immediately shot dead by the police.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And the heavier ones like Rhino would get a drone strike by the National Guard. Considering what we've seen what some cheap ass drones are doing in Ukraine to tanks, the only villains that would be relevant would be those that are practically demigods or have crazy magic or tech to defend from things like that.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I think Rhino might survive that, he's fought the Hulk and shit.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Huge difference between getting punched by the Hulk and getting hit by something like a shaped charge made to penetrate multiple inches of armor. Spider-Man can take an open palm swat by Hulk and have it not be fatal, but if he gets shot in the head by a 9mm, he's dead as frick, concentration of energy in a much smaller area can make all the difference in the world.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I think Rhino might survive that
                unless his internal organs are made of steel hes dead.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the rhino suit is explictly able to dissipate concussive force because his guts arent imploded by punches from the hulk
                this one is fairly believable because of how thick the rhino suit is, you can imagine its just lined with a fictional low-density, high-strength material that can dampen blast waves

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, he was given superhuman wienertails, like most people in animal costumes.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And the heavier ones like Rhino would get a drone strike by the National Guard. Considering what we've seen what some cheap ass drones are doing in Ukraine to tanks, the only villains that would be relevant would be those that are practically demigods or have crazy magic or tech to defend from things like that.

            Marvel version of the US goverment works in mysterious ways, when facing Spider-Man villains they got nothing but old ass revolvers, when dealing with the mutant hobo with frog powers they can send an army of giant robots

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Doesn’t work on
          >Sandman
          >Rhino
          >Electro
          >Hydro-Man
          >Swarm
          >Lizard
          >Spot
          >Shocker
          And that’s just speaking if they just stand there to take the hit. Other Spidey rogues can easily handle someone with a gun…

          You’re better off making this complaint with Daredevil villains

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Doesn’t work on
            >Rhino
            >Electro
            >Lizard
            >Spot
            >Shocker
            Why not?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I seriously need to explain those?

              Actually
              >Sandman
              >Water Bullets

              >Rhino
              >Bigger Bullets

              >Electro
              >Rubber Bullets

              >Swarm
              >Kosher Bullets

              >Lizard
              >Any bullet

              >Spot
              >Bullets big enough to fill up a hole without going through

              >Shocker
              >Just a generic bullet everyone forgets about until it's time to fire the gun at Shocker who's still alive until this bullet is fired

              bullets work

              Oh frick off

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you could use mind bullets for that

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't agree with that anon on Rhino. but Electro has magnetic field control and that's a free pass against bullets. Lizard has shrugged off small arms fire before and could feasibly recover from whatever limited damage a sniper round did to him if it wasn't followed up with confirmatory shots. Spot respawns elsewhere if you kill him. Shocker's suit is designed to detect and negate high-speed impacts.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Electro has magnetic field
                He can't keep it on forever.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's used wireless recharging before. Not to say Frank couldn't disable that before taking the shot, but there's really no reason a sufficiently prepped Electro couldn't stay bulletproof indefinitely.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Electro has magnetic field control and that's a free pass against bullets.
                Given the velocity, it wouldn't be enough to slow it down to the point where it wouldn't splatter his brains, unless it was powerful enough to destroy his surroundings.
                >Lizard has shrugged off small arms fire before and could feasibly recover from whatever limited damage a sniper round did to him if it wasn't followed up with confirmatory shots.
                A 50 cal could arguably frick his shit up. Follow up shots would most likely be taken if the aim is to kill.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, Lizard's a viable kill if you can get a couple extra shots in, but we both know Marvel's magnetic fields don't cause any problems that the person manipulating them doesn't want to cause. Magneto exists.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't agree with that anon on Rhino. but Electro has magnetic field control and that's a free pass against bullets. Lizard has shrugged off small arms fire before and could feasibly recover from whatever limited damage a sniper round did to him if it wasn't followed up with confirmatory shots. Spot respawns elsewhere if you kill him. Shocker's suit is designed to detect and negate high-speed impacts.

                Getting his head exploded could definitely kill Lizard even as a regenerator I'm sure, comics forget that follow up shots are a thing, and that if they really wanted to make sure, high explosives are an option.

                Whether this is actually true, or Frank is just fricking with him, this is the explanation given in their rematch.

                This sequence showed that regenerators in general would also not be as big of a threat as they're depicted as because unless they have Hulk-tier durability to back it up or are also much too fast to hit reliably with guns, they can still be taken out of a fight relatively easily and would still have to take time to get back to fighting form even if they could heal from the damage. Even without the benefit of super strength as Frankencastle, he was fricking with Daken the whole fight by using traps and other conventional means, something he didn't have the benefit of the first time around.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Daken is also more of an assassin then a straight up fighter like his father

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Even then, Wolverine would only be a marginally higher threat than Daken because he'd still be vulnerable to high explosive weaponry and rounds heavy enough to rip off ligaments through sheer kinetic force. His bones being coated with metal don't matter if he's getting turned into dog food with a .50. Up close, Frank would be fricked, but that's the only place Daken or Wolverine have the advantage.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Actually
            >Sandman
            >Water Bullets

            >Rhino
            >Bigger Bullets

            >Electro
            >Rubber Bullets

            >Swarm
            >Kosher Bullets

            >Lizard
            >Any bullet

            >Spot
            >Bullets big enough to fill up a hole without going through

            >Shocker
            >Just a generic bullet everyone forgets about until it's time to fire the gun at Shocker who's still alive until this bullet is fired

            bullets work

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          99% of all capes would be vulnerable to a sniper. Hell hide a team around police hq in Gotham & every time the bat signal goes up tell em to be ready & it's byebye Batman

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'll wait until later to kill the only thing in the building that can potentially stop me
        No you idiot. You kill him NOW
        Dumbass super villains.
        This isn't even a Doctor Doom or Magneto situation where someone like Frank is so far beneath their notice they don't even differentiate between him and the rest of the rabble. Otto should know better.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's stupid.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Punisher is not very good actually, he gets his ass kicked by the stronger villains so he always goes for the easy targets.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because he's a stupid character that doesn't fit in with the rest of the Marvel universe.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How would Frank even find the Leader

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Look for the green fricker with the fivehead.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >or Goblin.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like Frank would absolutely frick up both Rhino and Sandman

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't see a guy whose only power is guns easily defeating two guys who are basically immune to guns.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Spiderman weapons are webs and punching and he defeats those two often.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, webs and punching and lifting 10 tons and oreditcting danger and inventing gizmos to counter specific villians

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what if frank uses a fire hose

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Does he know how, what's his intelligence level?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Spider-Man is a supergenius with a reaction time 15 times faster than the average human and can lift a bus plus a sixth sense.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think anon was making the point that Spider-Man's kit shouldn't be good enough to deal with a guy much tougher and stronger than him, or a guy that that's immune to anything that isn't water.or intense heat. For the first case, bring a bigger gun, for the second, bring a fire hose or a super science gun that fires beams hot enough to turn sand into glass, it's not like Marvel is lacking in super science firearms or devices.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, you have the bright idea to hire Rhino because you're afraid of Frank. What are you actually ordering him to do? Protect you personally?
    >Frank kills off all of your lieutenants
    Protect your high-value operations?
    >Frank kills you
    Hire Rhino AND Sandman so your entire operation is protected?
    >Frank destroys whatever operations weren't valuable enough to get a supervillain bodyguard and terrorizes your rank-and-file until you can't recruit
    Send all of the supervillains you hired off to track him down and kill him?
    >He's already been evading the entire US government and most superheroes for years. Your boys aren't going to do any better at finding him.

    Frank's on the offensive. Even if you DO hire enough supervillains to protect all of your operations, he can go frick with anyone else while you get bled dry by your defense budget. You're the one under zugzwang.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    heaven literally tried to kill him and they failed

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    plot armor, Punisher does not make sense in the Marvel universe, just like the X-Men

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The X-Men make perfect sense in the MU.

      Punisher is trash and also happens to not make sense.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        see

        [...]
        Marvel version of the US goverment works in mysterious ways, when facing Spider-Man villains they got nothing but old ass revolvers, when dealing with the mutant hobo with frog powers they can send an army of giant robots

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Read more comics?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >coming at Wolverine with a knife
      Is this homie serious?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's Daken but the point still stands. I'm going to say he's not moronic, just Italian.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        IIRC he was already being run down by the authorities and was running low on weapons, so the knife was all he had left.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Norman wanted Frank dead and sent Daken. Of course Frank was supposed to die and do that while Frankencastle thing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So in 50 years of character publication this happened exactly once and in the 10s?
      Lol

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >AIIII PETER SAVE ME

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when Frank and Pete went to Moses Magnum's death camp and killed multiple people?

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t care what you believe Anon, I just want to see a guy with a big chin and a skull on his shirt shoot up gang bangers snd costumed weirdos with an unregistered AR-15
    Is that really so much to ask?

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frank isn't allowed to kill main characters.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frank is gone for current year reasons.

    The new Punisher is more in the 'super hero' universe than he was but still relies on plot armor.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean Frank is gone? There's a new punisher?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        His wife was brought back to life as a Fisher Queen by ninjas so he had to be the head ninja to be with her but actually she hated him the entire time they were married and had cucked him when she died and all of the other Marvel Heroes teamed up to beat Frank up and then they cast a magic spell to let his wife go free and she sold all of his secret hidden assets so he could never fund his war on crime again and kept half of the money to have sex with hot men on the beach and gave Frank's half of the money to charity and then Frank committed magic suicide because he is now canonically a coward with no sense of honor and he's in the war dimension as a samurai rescuing orphans for the rest of time as a way of atoning because he has renounced his evil gun-owning ways. Deal with it, chud.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As i read your post i thought
          >Who can write such nonsensical garbage? Is it Aaron
          And yeah it is Jameson Aaron! I'm not sure why this man is so fixated on ruining every character he touches

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He will retcon everything then retcon his own retcons with new retcons.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but actually she hated him the entire time they were married and had cucked him
          >and kept half of the money to have sex with hot men
          Calm down incel, that never happened

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you want the panels of her driving away in a convertible with the duffel bags and the positive pregnancy test, too?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Post the panel where she cucks him
              >Pregnancy test
              That's usually what happens when you sleep with your husband (which happened on panel)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The priestess explicitly said that Maria was infertile as part of the spell. For Frank to be the father, they would've had to frick after Strange showed up and imprisoned him and released Maria from the initial magic (allowing her to hate him). It just doesn't check out. You could maybe cope and say that the priestess lied, but why would she lie about something that would become obvious in a matter of months and could only improve their hold over Frank? Maria is single and immediately mingled and there's no other way to look at it.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I honestly don't think Frank can come back from this.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is the type of moronic shit that happens when you're using the same character for 50+ years. I hate capeshit so much. You can't have something fun without some moronic writer fricking everything up.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Current Punisher is a retired S.H.I.E.L.D. assassin that pulled a John Wick, but then his wife got blown up and he's looking for revenge thinking his cover got blown. Everyone assumes it's the Punisher and he just goes along with it. His old S.H.I.E.L.D. suit just happens to look like the Punisher skull.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Punisher has been targeted by supervillains. He just hasn’t died to them

    If you’re random mob boss, it’s really not worth it to pay Rhino to try and kill the punisher. Spider-Man would stop it happening anyway

    Only someone like Fisk is good enough to do it and not get killed by Frank after

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Hood was smart.
    First he resurrected canon fodder to go after Frank.
    Then he hired Daken to kill the Punisher and succeeded.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man, is Joss Whedon using a bunch of VPNs today?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean?

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i didn't finish the recent daredevil vs punisher, how things are going for them?
    i kind of enjoyed the "origins" part, the family life and the oneshots for the punisher

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He doesn't concern himself with superheroes and superheroes don't concern themselves with him.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Punisher is the biggest fraud in the Marvel Universe. Didn't kill a single big villain and all he has is "uhh I kill maggia and uhhh armed robers and uhhh".
    Pussy ass character.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >So i'm supposed to believe none of the criminal elite actually bothered to hire a superpowered villain like Rhino or Sandman to stop Frank?
    This bait, but green goblin sent sentry after him.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bad writing.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ennis was 100% right to take him out of the shared universe.

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