So it turns out Pup Named ScoobyDoo came out in the 80s not the 90s.
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e-girl velma
is trash
No, that's just your taste.
I want to see her and Daphne in Raisins uniforms.
Boringgay
lurk the panda
It's my panda. I'm trying to bait drawgays.
ToT
Have to ask, is there any decent art of this version of Daphne?
Too cute.
Would
I knew that.
barely
No shit, the intro is 80s as frick.
I have no idea what's the difference between 80s and 90s?
>under-produced children's toy advertisements
>over-produced censor-dodging skit shows
>80s
Heavy use of synth music mixed in with a rockabilly revival
50s retro revival
Appeal to traditional values
Sleak but over-the-top fashion
Heavily concerned with social ills such as drug usage
"America frick yeah" plastered on a lot of things because the Cold War was the hottest it had been since the early 60s
>90s
Alternative rock focus early blending into a pop and rap focus later
60s retro revival
Intentionally pushing things as far as they possibly could
Fashion becomes intentionally pared-down, flannel and blue jeans dominate
Heavily concerned with environmental ills
America's place in the world more openly questioned as the Cold War is over, still patriotic but less "America frick yeah" and more "America... frick yeah?"-
that's a good description , anon
The early part of the 80s in 80-82 was very unlike 88-89.
It's said that a "cultural decade" goes from the middle of one to the middle of the other. Kinda makes sense.
i mean, 1991 and '98 were essentially two completely different eras as well
>80s
still enslaved by gommunism
>90s
freedumb and actually being able to travel anywhere you want and buy food in store
I heard this show was the first to use the name Norville as Shaggy's real name.
It was. Tom Ruegger came up with his name.
Pretty sure it's the origin of all of the full names, Coolsville and Daphne being rich. Maybe a few other things I'm forgetting.
It was the start of Velma being the smart one too (like exclusively the smart one.) If you watch OG Scooby Doo Where Are You?, Fred is pretty much the detective of the group as well as the leader and the muscle.
Funny how the one series they made him smart again (Mystery Inc) was the one people still praise.
If personality was all it took, Be Cool wouldn't be hated with fury of thousand suns despite being a pretty inoffensive take.
MI just has shipper and waifu appeal.
Fred: High WIS
Velma: High INT
Daphne being rich is something the same group of writers introduced in an episode of the New Scooby Doo and Scrappy Doo show (the one where it's traditional Scooby-Doo mysteries but only with Daphne, Shaggy, Scooby and Scrappy). There was an episode where they visit Daphne's parents.
A few things from that series stuck when the writers referred to them in other things, like Daphne being a reporter became "official" when Glenn Leopold wrote it into Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island.
Makes sense seeing as Ruegger was one of the main guys on both that show and Pup.
That would be when I watched it, yes.
>So it turns out
Why were you under the impression that it wasn't? And for that matter why were you under the impression that other people didn't know this? The show fricking screams 1980s from the 50s-throwback pop intro to the animation to the character designs to the premise itself.
I always thought this show was 90s as frick to be honest. I grew up in the 90s partially watching this and it fit right in with other early 90s content filled with "radical dudes" and bright angular shapes on every fricking logo. Now, while it did come out in the very late 80s and bridge the weird transitional culture gap, you could 100% tell me that this show came out in '92 or '93 and I would absolutely believe you.
My perception of 80s cartoons was shit like He-Man and GI Joe - stiff but detailed characters with morals and toy marketing, or like Disney's 80s TV offerings - stuff like DuckTales focusing on adventure and good-hearted characters. Meanwhile, this show was a somewhat sarcastic, slapstick filled show just like most of the 90s classics. While I've known it's an 80s cartoon for a while, if you were to show me A Pup Named Scooby Doo right next to the likes of Tiny Toons and Darkwing Duck I would absolutely still even as an adult 100% think they were all extremely 90s. It has much more in common with 90s cartoons than 80s.
The late 80s was the nice transition period to the 90s, arguably a more creative time before the 90s became known as the Grunge era.
1988-1992 was a strange time. Reagan left office, the Berline Wall came down, the Soviet Union fell, and we as Americans didn't know who we were anymore.
>The Clinton becomes president and the bad guys in our movies go from Commies to US Government Agencies
>And during this time, Evan Dorkin started raping women
>and we as Americans didn't know who we were anymore.
Hedwig reference.
You.
I like you.
> early 90s content filled with "radical dudes" and bright angular shapes on every fricking logo
Name 20.
Battle Toads, Jackie Cha—
There's more blending between the eras than people really remember. You also have to take into account that shifts in style and pop culture trends generally took place on the coasts - New York and L.A. historically - and worked their way inward over a decade or so. So what I, being from the midwest, might consider mid-90's-core, was actually birthed and produced in California at the tail-end of the 80's. Of course, the more prevalent cable television became across the U.S., the more things became homogenized, and the internet has really shifted that dynamic so that it's hard to tell where the next style will come from.
Early 90s was still pretty much the 80s culture wise. The 90s didnt really began until grunge culture and bands like Nirvana became popular
not at all. like, 1991 was very different from '85.
The year my favorite hedgehog was born.
Was just about to say. Sonic really marked a flash point in gaming generations. At least for platforming and the approach to gaming.
>The 90s didnt really began until grunge culture and bands like Nirvana became popular
Anon, that happened in 1991. 1991 is the year that Nevermind, Loveless, Ten, and Out of Time came out. The early 90s had some 80s bleedover, but in terms of what was new that was being made 1991 was already a very hardcore divergence.
>50s-throwback
What WAS it with the American 80s and obsessing over American 50s stuff?
In cartoons, there was the Pound Puppies movie, which was 50s themed, too?
Also early 90s. Rock-A-Doodle, a movie about a chicken Elvis and evil owls, came out in 1991 and Mother Goose Rock 'n' Rhyme came out the year prior.
Cyclical trend
Video rentals of Grease were up I guess
>American 80s and obsessing over American 50s stuff
That was more of a thing in the 70s.
Nostalgia, kinda.
Nostalgia.
According to John K, A Pup Named Scooby Doo was ripping off Bakshi Animation's Mighty Mouse style. That's all kinda bullshit though because all this revived interest in mid-century stuff started with Memphis Group stuff and it leaked into everything else.
Nostalgia.
Same reason 90s-10s is 80s wank and we're just now rolling into 90s love letters.
Like others said, nostalgia, but to give a slightly more detailed answer people that were running the entertainment industry in the 80s were all people who had grown up in the 50s.
Ronald Reagan
Yeah from what I heard in college, it's a 30-year cycle. Dunno how that will work from now on, the 2010s to now were kind of a cultural void.
It tends to skip decades that were shitty. The 2000s for example didn't have 70s nostalgia but jumped straight to the 80s, and similarly there wasn't any 30s nostalgia in the 60s.
>this homie doesn't remember the disco/funk revival
Ok granted but the music was like the only good thing from the 70s, otherwise people just wanted to forget that decade.
>but the music was like the only good thing from the 70s
That 70s Show says otherwise. It sounds like you had a personal bias and probably just listened to nu-metal.
That 70s show was a pretty stand-alone example, I remember being really sick of all the 80s references that peppered the 00s.
>It sounds like you had a personal bias and probably just listened to nu-metal.
Uh no, I hated nu-metal. I was predominantly into progressive and psychedelic rock in the 00s and thought that nu-metal was trying way too hard to appeal to teenagers. What a bizarre thing to assume when I outright said the 70s had good music.
>sick of all the 80s references that peppered the 00s
You mean the 2010s. You know what vaporwave was, right? Or did you hate that too?
nta, but the 2000's had a ton of 80's references starting in 2001/02. It's when all the 80's toy franchises started to get new 80's based merch and things, the first few shows with 80's period piece
Vaporwave was 80's based but not really nostalgia. It's like a hyper-exaggerated take on the 80's based off second-hand knowledge of media.
All nostalgia cycles tend to reach that point. 50's nostalgia was reaching that in the 90's where everything was sockhops, greasers, and cadillacs. 60's nostalgia went from the Wonder years and became all hippies, Beatles, and basically Austin Powers.
No, I mean the 2000s. The fact that it continued into the 2010s was just all the more grating, and I was honestly pretty ambivalent towards vaporwave, could take it or leave it.
The 2000s was when all the 80s being sucked off stuff started anon, one of the biggest criticisms of Family Guy back then was mocking it for being "Hey guys remember that thing from the 1980s?"
>Hey guys remember that thing from the 1980s
I'm pretty sure it references 70s shows more than 80s ones in its original run.
Well, I guess, if we consider Star Wars and Alien as honorary 80s.
There were way more than just that. Dazed and Confused and Boogie Nights come to mind. Also, in the vein of this thread, the live action Scooby Doo movie was probably the most mainstream the franchise had been since the 70s, for better or worse.
In fact Chris Rock originally pitched "Everybody Hates Chris" taking place in the 70s, when he actually grew up. The network changed it to the 80s because there were so many 70s nostalgia shows and movies at the time.
In fact Chris Rock originally pitched "Everybody Hates Chris" taking place in the 70s, when he actually grew up. The network changed it to the 80s because there were so many 70s nostalgia shows and movies at the time.
Oh wow, watching it right now, it wouldn't feel half as relatable. Wonder how things really were.
You didn't know that?
I had it worse. I could have sworn this was from sometime around 1981 or 1982
And...you seem confused. I was there when it was airing on Broadcast in the 80's. Maybe cable fricks finally got it in the 90's, leading to people thinking it was a 90's cartoon?
Cartoon network launched in what 92 and they were playing through the Hanna Barbera catalogue almost from the start.
No idea on an exact date but you can probably easily figure CN was playing a Pup by 93-95 at the latest.
I remember it playing alongside some cartoon about a baby in a playpen that imagines he's a space adventurer on adventures.
Fantastic Max. Aired around 1992 on wtmv 32 here in Tampa, Fl.
I was baffled when I found this out too. I watched it a lot as a kid and always just assumed it was something around the mid to late 90s.
always liked this way more than the original. it actually had clues to follow and multiple suspects.
I just found out the dog can talk. What the frick? Dogs can't talk.
Are the gang schizos or something? Because Son of Sam is what happens when you think your dog is talking.
I believe the OP opened this thread because he believed the "characters turned into kids" shows came out in the 90s like Tom & Jerry Kids and Yo Yogi but the trend started in the 80s
You think that's bad? I just learned the Flintstones Kids debuted in 1986. I thought that one was closer to 1988. PNSD I really thought was 89-90.
In retrospect, Muppet Babies came out in 1984. The rip-off shows should have been coming out much earlier. It should have taken six years to think of Tiny Toons.
wait really?
>duuuuuuuudes.
>duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudes
i never would have guessed.
They should use Red Herring in something
He had a cameo in Mystery Inc
Wait until you find out Inspector Gadget is an 80s show.
>it’s a fred tries to slander Red Herring episode
Honestly if I was red I would have just punched him right in the face
Yeah but then Fred wins
Turns out to you, you mean
I watched it live
>end of the Soviet-Afghan War, Tiananmen Square massacre, Velvet Revolution, Romanian Revolution, German reunification, end of Apartheid, collapse of the Warsaw Pact, disintegration of Somalia and Yugoslavia, US invasion of Panama, and the Persian Gulf War all took place during this show's airing
>only narrowly missed the end of the Iran-Iraq War and the independence of Ukraine by a few days
>that time Daphne dressed behind a curtain, so the audience couldn't see, but the crew totally could from the side
Huh.
Dividing trends into decades is arbitrary. In reality trends overlap.
Only time Velma looked cuter than Daphne
Its funny when you realize this cartoon established a lot of the recurring trends of modern Scooby Doo, such as Shaggy's real name, Daphne being rich and Fred being a moron.
I miss this show. The animation was just fluid enough, and it was light hearted and fun. We could use more of it these days.
It also turns out that it's a soulless attempt at trying to recapture what Nu-Mighty Mouse did.
80's MM is the most overrated thing ever. Yeah I know it has a high pedigree but the show itself is not very memorable or entertaining.
Do people care all that much about it? It tried so hard to look zany in every shot.At least Pup Named Scooby-Doo was fun.
It also snuck in a cocaine joke, which was the best part.
as anon said early 80s was a lot different from decade's end. US economy was in bad recession and things were generally pretty gloomy, a lot of unemployment and Cold War dragged on without end in sight. at end in 88-89 is booming economy and extremely optimistic mood as Cold War was about over.