>So me and Lois are driving up to Vermont to get this abortion,
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>So me and Lois are driving up to Vermont to get this abortion,
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do you really need both hands to perform an abortion?
no, but if you leave one inside you did not really finish the job.
Can doctors get away with murder?
A clump of cells is not a human, therefore killing it is not murder. Just like how spraying disinfectant on mold in your bathroom isn't murder.
Can I kill you? You're just a clump of cells.
It becomes immoral when the clump of cells grows a consciousness
So anyone who wants to murder an unborn baby can technically be killed since they're a soulless degenerate that has no consciousness. Gotcha!
Cringe post, try making a counter argument next time
project and cope you harder, you cannot.
Embarrassing responses, are you actually anti abortion just to be contraion? At least try a bit harder with your reasons
Take the L
Then do it pussy. Stop talking about it and go do it.
you just outed yourself glowie kek try harder
>anyone who ever does anything besides sitting in front of his computer and seethe impotently is a federal agent
>anyone who does anything besides sitting in front of his computer *without being murdered or arrested* is a glowie
ftfy
this fricking idiot doesn't know the difference between "consciousness" and "conscience"
leftists have no consciousness, can I kill those?
Unquantifiable. An easier way to deduce fetal personhood is EEG, which the fetus begins producing in about 8 weeks from conception
Doesn't really rule you out...
How can you tell when something is conscious or not? How do you prove that?
>I decide what morality is when it suits me
lol get fricked
>when the clump of cells grows a consciousness
Who determines that?
All cells are conscious
You just forget everything as you develop
Full on self-aware sentience? Or just the presence of qualia?
>Anon unwillingly advocates for eugenics and euthanasia of the feeble minded
And a conscience is just a bunch of chemicals going off in your head, right? I freakin’ love science
so you're ok with killing a 2 year old
frick yeah
e-girlng at all these seething republicucks
your going straight under the wheels of a republitruck
>all of these seething and coping replies
In reality most of these anons would be okay with euthanizing vegetables or someone who is braindead.
If someone upset by the termination of a clump of cells that has the "potential" to become a grown child, they may as well be upset everytime that they ejaculate.
how did a fetus manage to find Cinemaphile??
Well it is Summer…
you cannot perform murder
you are just a clump of cells
>Rightcels left speechless
Leftcels can only communicate through greentext like cowards.
I waiting for murderers to start using this excuse in court.
>"You're honor, he was just a clump of cells- not even human."
An adult human is literally a clump of cells and I know for a fact you have no idea how a fetus looks after just 2 weeks of development. The earliest recorded succesfull births occur in the 2nd trimester and well before the 2nd trimester thr fetus has already developed into a noticeably human form - because it's just an unborn human child. It's sentient in the 1st trimester and arguably even sapient that early.
You can dehumanize the fetus as much as you want - you're killing an unborn child. It's a method of eugenics which is why I support abortion as a right winger, but I don't pretend like it's not murdering children for being genetically inferior or a burden on the family. Leftists meanwhile need gold medal tier mental gymnastics to dehumanize what is utterly human instead of being able to accept that killing in itself isn't immoral.
It doesn't matter whether the fetus is a human or not. It is no one's right to use your body without your consent. You can't even donate people's organs after death without their consent. I can't force you to give me a kidney without your consent, and a baby shouldn't force a woman to provide her blood to it.
Then teach women to be not be communal cum dumpsters.
Sorry Muhammad, but here in America we have freedom of choice.
>Then teach women how to use condoms and birth control
>It is no one's right to use your body without your consent.
Duty. Of. Care.
>duty of care is a legal obligation which is imposed on an individual, requiring adherence to a standard of reasonable care while performing any acts that could foreseeably harm others.
The baby is preforming an act that foreseeable harms the mother, i.e. the pain and bodily damage of child birth and the financial strain of raising them.
>a bunch of word salad about how killing someone is allowed if they cost you money
Goodfellas is a lot less interesting now knowing they were operating within the confines of the law
>I can't read more than 5 words without getting confused
>lecturing me about reading comprehension when you can't even spell "performing" correctly
Making a typo doesn't mean he can't spell, and Better Call Saul sucks, Kim is a c**t. I hope she kicks the bucket
Thanks for taking my side, but also frick you for your opinions on BCS and kino Kim queen of Cinemaphile
>not being able to spell doesn't mean he can't spell
brainlets out in full force today
So in other words you have no credible arguments? Thank you for conceding.
An argument against what? Your inane rambling? Literally no one in their right mind thinks it's ok to murder someone because of "financial strain"
You're cherry picking because you can't read more than 5 words without getting confused.
>Literally no one in their right mind thinks it's ok to murder someone because of "financial strain"
I do, vae victis
Where is the Right to Bodily Autonomy enumerated in the Constitution?
Is it just some imagined substantive right?
Just because something isn't in the Constitution doesn't mean it isn't allowed. The Constitution doesn't say anything about jerking off into a tissue, but that's not illegal.
The constitution doesn't define legality you simple minded frick. It defines natural rights you have as a citizen that the government can not restrict. Abortion is not one of them, thus it's legality is left to the states as intended by our founding fathers. Jesus fricking Christ what happened to civics class in this country?
Bro we barely teach math to high schoolers anymore, what fricking civics classes?
That's my whole point with substance due process, you should look it up.
This
But you're essentially pulling it out of thin air. I could invoke some right that acts contrary to the Bodily Autonomy right you're playing up.
Let's call it the "Right to Fetal Wellbeing" which protects a fetus's right to life and wellbeing. Wow, I guess abortion is unconstitutional now on account of this right I just invented off the top of my head. Game over, man.
>But you're essentially pulling it out of thin air
No I'm not, the majority of the country agrees with body autonomy. Seriously search the term "substantive due process" before you reply again because you clearly have no idea what I'm talking about.
posts that tell other people what they think are always the losers of the thread
>you don’t win the argument because that’s secretly not your position! i win!
absolutely delusional and childish, like everything leftists say believe and do
I know what substantive rights are you dumb frick I was the one who brought them up in the first place. My point is that any prospective substantive right can be contravened by a contrary substantive right.
>I was the one who brought them up in the first place.
No you weren't, I was you moron
Clearly, the prolife team should invest in tiny uniforms for fetuses to boost their perceived social value.
>can doctors remove a clump of cells?
I dunno. Do 18 year old mental patients need assault rifles?
yes
did the good guys actually win this one bros...?
God always wins in the end. Satan's rule is only temporary.
I do find it odd how a bunch of aethists are quick to say a lump of cells has no conscious, when it basically goes against their entire idealogy of there being no soul.
moron
i'd respect the pro abortion crowd more if they at least had the balls to just agree that it's a baby they're killing instead of using antinatalist buzzwords like 'clump of cells'. there's no reason to infantalize the act
It's a minority of us. I'm basically a Nazi to them because I'm not stupid enough to realize I'm not advocating for the killing of children because
>Hurrr they magically aren't actually human until they exit the vegana
yeah every argument they have is just moronic i don't know why they just can admit they want to be prostitutes and not have to take responsibility for their actions
>driving to VT for an abortion when you can get them in NJ, MA, NH, NY, Etc.
Every state surrounding VT allows abortion, so does Canada. Why would anyone travel up to VT just for that?
They have pretty good maple syrup for you to eat later while you reminisce on the child that ya murdered
lmao bruh
Wasn't there an episode of the Simpsons where somebody drives to Utah to get an abortion? I remember Bart and some girl were driving out to get an abortion in another state. I swear to god I have an actual memory of this episode. Please tell me I'm not just making this up.
The Simpsons or "New Simpsons"? Pic related "New Simpsons"
Isn’t that a treehouse of horror? Those have always been more gorey than the regular episodes.
There is an episode where Bart and an older girl go to Utah to get married, she was duping him because had got pregnant and didn't want her parents to know.
clarence thomas is a based as heck black man just like thomas sowell and incidentally they are best friends
So you agree with taking away substantive due process, which protects ALL of our constitutional rights including the 1st and 2nd amendments, and other inherent human rights not mentioned in the constitution such as slavery, from government interference and they're ability to take those rights from us? Hello there Vladimir Goldstein.
Slavery was never abolished. It's literally written in our constitution.
I'm saying it wasn't originally mentioned. The 13th amendment was added later with the help of systems like substantive due process. Slavery was abolished, but being punished for a legitimate crime and paying your dept to society through labor was not. Even in prison, they can't force you to labor, and no one is forcing you to do community service, it's an optional alternative to serving time. It's not technically slavery.
this is just a get-out for prison labor moron
Do you even know what substantive due process means
Want to tell me where in the constitution it recognizes abortion as a natural right?
>rightcels: NOOO YOU CAN'T HECKIN ABORT A FETUS THAT'S HECKIN MURDER NOOOOO LIFE IS A SACRED GIFT FROM GOD
>also rightcels: teehee all non straight white men should be killed and also women should have no rights, their lives don't matter 😉
This poster is a homosexual who loves Satan and probably israelites too
Who are you quoting?
>Leftcels: NOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST GENOCIDE THE GENETICALLY AND RACIALLY INFERIOR WE'RE ALL HECKIN EQUAL
>also leftcels: unborn children? OOH KILLEM I don't want to raise a child that's like a lot of money
>2060
>I'm so glad I had those abortions so I can die alone with no family and be taken care of by dominicans in a nursing home GIRL POWER!
>you can't be racist and say the N word!!! freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences!!!!
>uhm what do you mean i should use birth control or be celibate if I don't want children? My body my choice, I shouldn't have to live with the consequences of unprotected sex
why didn’t any leftists reply to this
can they even?
Because it was a false equivalence, but I still agree with the sentiment.
yeah i’m sure that’s why
Yea, I'm sure there are actual lefties that visit this site. You guys realize you're arguing with some fat greasy neckbeard like yourself who is larping as a lefty, right? Lefties hate this place, they may occasionally may visit /b/ or /misc/ to attempt to troll and argue, but they leave within minutes when mods don't immediately ban people for calling them Black folk and trannies. They definitely don't visit Cinemaphile just to argue with your dumb ass.
ouch look at all this cringe and hurt and cope
>we totally have arguments we just don’t say them you evil pissy chud!
That's not at all what I just said you illiterate moron. The people you are arguing with aren't lefties, it's you responding to yourself.
>haha remember that one time where a Black person fricked lois before peter married her? that was hilarious LOL FAMILY GUY BROS THAT'S FRICKING FUNNY HAHA
We should be able to do like they did in the old days and let newborns be left in the woods to die of exposure if the father doesn't want to raise it.
SHE WAS 59 MINUTES, 59 SECONDS, 29 DAYS, AND 8 MONTHS OLD YOU SICK FRICK
lmaoing at all the 30 year old male virgins arguing about women's bodies ITT
wow....just wow..... men, yes MEN, can get pregnant, too, transphobe. that makes it something MEN have input on, okay you crusty old TERF hag???
imagine bullying someone because they have a phobia
none of you actually give a shit about the life or "death" of a baby, stop pretending you do
i'm pro dead babies i'm just anti women's rights
Don’t care about women’s rights just want there to be fewer Black folk. Simple as.
Can you not be racist, please? We don't want to miss out on the future queens
>you didn’t get the abortion?
i'm mulatto.
I support abortion because it kills blacks
If it can feel pain its immoral to kill it you degenerate if you ever killed you'd know that instead your landfill graveyard of a vegana is used as the final resting place of a dismembered human child
>If it can feel pain its immoral to kill it
But it's fine to give birth to some monstrosity with a genetic defect that will be in immense amounts of pain for its entire life? That's causing it pain too, brainlet. It's a mercy killing in some cases, giving birth to a product of rape and not loving the child or giving birth to a deformed product of incest isn't moral either. Sometimes people deserve to die and that means killing them
we both know that's not the majority of cases and not what people are fighting for if its a product of rape or incest there's products that don't require the destruction of a fetus with nerve endings
>we both know that's not the majority of cases
Well duh, most of the time they're just unwanted pregnancies that occur in the 1st trimester. It's essentially the only socially acceptable eugenics program left. You want to pretend most of those babies aren't products of cheating, whoring, or race mixing? The less shitty genes walking the street and chimping out the better
society as a whole needs to behave better if were going to progress that includes controlling yourself
>If it can feel pain its immoral to kill it
Well then, buddy ol' pal, do I have good news for you.
I've seen them squirm in pain while being torn apart are you okay with torturing animals as well?
>I'm only crushing a few thousand infant skulls, why are you so mad
???
I don't care about life or murder, but I love seeing roasties seethe. Based supreme court.