so the angels retrieve lilith, and then what?
do they leave the humans alone?
if so, why not just give lilith's corpse back to the angels
so the angels retrieve lilith, and then what? do they leave the humans alone?
so the angels retrieve lilith, and then what?
do they leave the humans alone?
if so, why not just give lilith's corpse back to the angels
the angels thought it was adam
ASUKA IS BEST GRIL!
FRICK MISATO AND FRICK REI!
wrong
I like Hikari
Shinji with long hair and freckles.
all the best girls are basically just Shinji
what if evangelion was a girl
she is
Made for cute shinji wiener.
>FRICK MISATO
dont mind if i do, Pedo-kun
Then the Third Impact happens and everyone dies
Also SEELE wants all the Angels defeated so that Instrumentality can happen
>Then the Third Impact happens and everyone dies
>Also SEELE wants all the Angels defeated so that Instrumentality can happen
I don't know what that means
>the angels remove lilith and her spawn from the world and populate the world with their own children, as originally intended
Like sentient geometric shapes and shit?
>I don't know what that means
watch the show before you ask stupid questions then
>I don't know what that means
SEELE didn't want the angels around cuz it would interfere with their plans to turn everyone into soup.
Why are you in an Evangelion thread then moron?
this show is awful in that unless you read supplementary materials, it's never clear what is going on
Ignore the stupid replies
i've seen the show twice and it's still unclear.
the only way to understand what's going on is to read wikis
It's not interesting enough to bother
the dude who mentioned soup is close to the truth
>autist fails to understand an introspective personal drama, focuses on details in the background setting
many such cases. cool robots!
It's for pseuds who are enticed by the cellophane symbolism without realizing that there is no deeper meaning other than aesthetics.
youre the pseud if you focus on that and miss what its really about
the lore is not meant to be understood. it's just background noise for the real content: horny teenagers and giant robots
>Read the lore.
>Basic dying alien race of God like power seeded other worlds
Not that hard guys
Angels reaching lilith will seemingly initiate third impact and destroy humanity utterly, at least this is what kaworu seems to imply.
SEELE doesnt want that to happen because (besides the obvious reason) they want to initiate third impact on their own specific terms that they read in their ancient aliens handbook so that they can use it for instrumentality merging all of humanity into lilith.
its not weird that you're confused by it because the show intentionally does not explain much about what's going on, mainly because most of the characters dont seem to actually know what the frick they are truly doing either.
I'd say if there is any hole in the show, its the fact that most people don't seem to question what the angels are, what exactly they wanted, and why the frick the world government had been secretly building giant robots for 15 years to fight them. There really is no "official" explanation for this in the show.
shinji questioned what the angels were, kaji did too and died trying to find out what the truth behind everything was.
That's not what I'm saying, what i'm saying is that nobody else does despite the fact that there is no actual explanation given for any of this.
As far as the show makes it clear, the first episode is the first time an angel attacked humanity and the first time an evangelion unit was actually deployed.
So the angels attack earth out of nowhere and Nerv is very conveniently ready for them having built giant robots and built the geofront (that the angels seem to have an oddly specific interest in) into a super fortress despite there seemingly being no public reason for them to do this.
What exactly did the public and the overwhelming majority of Nerv's own employees think Nerv was actually doing? I will reiterate that the angels were an unknown until the very first episode. the truth of Adam at second impact was known only to a very limited portion of higher ups with the top clearance of the UN.
The coming of the Angels was foretold in the Dead Sea Scrolls. You can bet that governments all around the world had been briefed about it, and that's how come NERV got the funding to build their city base and all the money to set up the Evas. Etc
To add to this - how many "normal" people do you even see in the show? For all we know there are riots around the world after the first angel attacks.
I find it very difficult to believe that SEELE would share the hidden truth of the Dead Sea Scrolls with anyone beyond their own inner circle considering that the Dead Sea Scrolls are what they based their plans for Third Impact and Instrumentality.
Regardless that is still completely besides my point.
Obviously Nerv was created because the UN higher ups (controlled by Seele) knew the truth of Second Impact. The issue is that the truth of Second Impact was a secret known only to these people. The overwhelming majority of people, including Nervs own personnel, were not on this need to know, so what exactly did they think Nerv was for? This is never explained.
They didn't share the whole truth, they shared just enough to get the funding and cooperation needed to advance their plans.
>The overwhelming majority of people, including Nervs own personnel, were not on this need to know, so what exactly did they think Nerv was for? This is never explained.
Anon, it's shown at the first Angel attack in the first episode that Misato, Ritsuko, and Gendo knew the Angels were coming. I'm pretty sure the regular wrench-turning grunt at least knew "hey, we're building these giant robots because some ayyy lmaos are going to come and attack us". If nothing else, at least told them something like "just in case some ayyy lmaos come sometime at some future date, we're building giant robots".
So Nerv is some secret MJ-12 like organization created by the UN after second impact to officially deal with military responses for potential alien threats.
They are given an absurdly massive off the books black budget, because they and the UN governance know the truth about second impact (whereas Seele has ulterior motives). they use this to build evas which are ostensibly for dealing with a "potential" alien threat.
The construction of Nerv's fortress is done under the guise of a new capital city construction which was done for... some reason (make a city safe from another impact event or something?)
The theoretical reasoning for why aliens exclusively attack their base would be, "well... the evas are their main threat on earth." Not very convincing but perhaps good enough to cover for a time.
I suppose this is a somewhat satisfactory explanation
the show tapped into the UFO conspiracy vibe. The Japanese X-files.
Yep pretty much exactly this. Also keep in mind that after the second impact the population is severely lowered, almost a mini-apocalypse, so the world systems and order is very different and the government is pretty much in absolute control, so the general public's opinion doesn't really matter anyway. I also always assumed the world was fricked and weird after the second impact, with the ocean being red and shit like that, where smaller occurrences of supernatural threats would have come up that would warn of coming, bigger ones.
>the ocean being red
thats from the lcl
the ocean didnt actually turn red
i realized this is from the rebuild movie after i typed it my bad
It's weird that Japanese government got both the JSDF (=military) and NERV ( a UN agency), and when the first(anyway) angel attacked, JSDF tried first then left it to UN.
Why would they bother trying, if they are already on board with NERV's plan, and built the big robots for them?
>and built the geofront
they didn't build it, it was left behind by either the black or white moon, its never explicitely stated in the show itself, there they only say they stumbled upon it
the handbook being the dead sea scrolls?
Yes. The Dead Sea Scrolls explain everything about the Angels, the Lilin, Instrumentality, all that shit. SEELE revealed just enough to the governments of the world ("The Angels will come back and we need to be able to fight them.") to get them to cooperate and do what SEELE wanted.
>The Dead Sea Scrolls explain everything
btw how and when and where did they ever come across them? is it ever mentioned?
They're based on the real life Dead Sea Scrolls so I guess they found them in the Dead Sea sometime before Second Impact happened
So the aliens are israelites who wrote Hebrew on human created parchments?
yeah the aliens are basically space israelites
why did they leave a manual around that can foil their plans?
its mentioned at least once through a throw away conversation
and because of that, it didnt seem important at all
it was on a flash drive next to adam in its egg.
>most people don't seem to question what the angels are, what exactly they wanted,
I got so pissed at asuka during my first watch fir shutting shinji down with a "who cares" a second after.
Because I kinda cared b***h I care
>its not weird that you're confused by it because the show intentionally does not explain much about what's going on, mainly because most of the characters dont seem to actually know what the frick they are truly doing either.
If there's one thing NGE lacked that annoyed the shit out of me was none of the characters seeming at total awe specifically over the situation they find themselve in with these alien invaders, the fact that they are an alien's progeny, etc. Not one of them seems perturbed over this specifically and how small humanity is with the knowledge of not being alone in the universe. You could have had that in some form without the expense of everyone bedeviled by their own initimate psychological drama
Japanese writing.
Same on Death Note. They should be suprised Death gods exist.
Speaking of Japanese writing, I think this issue is satirized in other "high school festival" animes.
The drama club would write a play with grandious setting, like genius scientists, evil creation of humans etc. But kids just watch the show for the romance or highschool drama, and take those outlandish setting for granted, despite the stage drama never have the effects to present those ideas like anime and movies
what do you expect them to do, stop and saw wow lillith is our mom?
A sense of disbelief, awe, etc. through even non-verbal behaviour as well as non-expository dialogue (i.e. the opposite of what you act like I am want), a character gazing up in the stars at night but finds horror/foreboding rather than wonder
its hard to do that when those aliens are coming to kill you and your dad doesnt love you
I remember they inserted here and there, lines of dialogue for talking heads like Misato and Ritsuko, that in order to survive people don't mind using monsters, aliens or gods.
They also added that those are hardened people living through Second Impact so nothing bothers them.
and I thought l was moronic
the angels remove lilith and her spawn from the world and populate the world with their own children, as originally intended
jews from all around the world would stop making garillions from high tech weapon sales so this would never happen. They would rather see the whole world burn, just like in the real world
but seele didnt use angel tech to rule the world
in fact, they didnt do anything
They did exactly what they wanted to do, They used NERV/e to bring about the human instrumentality program. They won in the end.
Unless you consider the rebuilds cannon in which case Shinji subverted their will so he could have more wiafus.
The israelites wanted controlled instrumentality where they obtain maximum power and dominance (Tikkun olam)
The show isn't supposed to make sense, why do westerners have to try explain everything
It does make sense though.
The angels would've been the dominant race on earth not humans if it hadn't been for Lilith
How the frick do I watch this show and then threads about it suddenly start appearing on teevee? GET OUTTA MY HEAD
you, like all zoomers, are an ignorant algo-slave
didnt robin williams say he wanted to play shinji in the adaptation?
gendo
he was a big NGE fan. he worked a name drop into one of his movies, but he pronounces it 'evanJELion'
No wonder he killed himself
It was One Hour Photo, there's a scene where he tries to convince a kid to buy an Eva-01 figure that belonged to Robin Williams irl.
Makes you wonder if he watched it for the lore or the breasts or the robots or the robots eating the breasts.
I don't know about him, but I know when I realized that it was a monster-of-the-week kaiju fighting show wearing a bunch of hifalutin religious gobbledyasiatic as a headdress, that's when I realized I loved it.
> Don't let big scary men mess with mom in her bedroom
> bc you want to to weird stuff with her yourself later
There, it's all there is to it
the lore in NGE literally does not matter at all. it was originally supposed to be the lore from nadia (NGE was conceived as a sequel) but they couldn't secure the rights again so they hastily rewrote it into something similar. evangelion is about the characters. the lore is basically irrelevant
I thought Nadia was about a brown girl denying a white man sex and meat
late into the series it reveals that humanity was created by aliens and that the descendants of all of humanity were these giant fricked-up artificial beings called adams that were meant to be servants or whatever. it's basically the same shit.
is this worth watching?
Yeah Nadia is great (although there is some filler on an island that is a bit of a slog to get through).
watch the nautilus story cut if you want a more compact version it's an official director's cut version that trims all the filler out. it was only released on laserdisc but some autists reconstructed it with blu-ray footage
Eva is truly the Bethesda of anime.
Nadia is an incredibly frustrating show because it should have been good, but it's awful. The writing really lets it down, and 90% of the episodes are pointless and go absolutely nowhere.
I remember watching that episode with the singing and the beach or something, wondering why the frick I was watching it. I ended up watching the whole thing because an anon on Cinemaphile told me there were Evangelions at the end
I think that was when the studio had financial trouble and had to add filler ep.
It somehow pulled itself out and delivered the Showdown in Paris.
It feels scary that they just decided to recycle the idea for Evangelion, for 30 years, all the while assuming people will get it because they had delivered the idea in Nadia
Oh man I remember watching it fresh as a teenager and thought about the scene day and night for weeks.
So ruined I was.
as a brown she should know temper her shit testing or the white man will find himself a less demanding yet still higher quality mate
Nadia is s tier what are you talking about
What he didn't mention is that the white man is Fr*nch.
still, while a fr*nchman will frick any animal most will still insist on an aryan wife, or settle for a celtic one if they so must
Nadia is cuter than asuka
jean cannonically fricked Nadia whereas shinji jerked off over asukas comatose body
This sounds like cope for "the lore sucks and doesn't make sense"
the lore is cool but understanding it doesn't matter in appreciating the show.
Third impact is anything crazy that has to do with the angels/lillith as I understand it. The third impact just happened to be human instrumentality in the end of eva.
So it's literally Lost but with whiny angsty teenagers?
I don't think you quite understand how cause and effect work. Mostly because of your brain damage.
There was never a smoke angel.
My favorite was the dirac sea angel, I think I studied physics because I went full into this, I shit you anons not.
Wrong board
Canonically: who cares, it's just a framing to make a mech series
Evangelion is the ultimate Rorschach test for pseuds
>Anno
>Anon
Holy shit guys
You cherry pick one or two quotes and then proudly sit on Dunning Kruger's mount stupid proclaiming you know everything there is to know about a silly tv show. It's deeply ironic.
You can just as easily find quotes where Anno talks about using Christian imagery on purpose, to avoid association with new age Buddhist cults in Japan that just nerve gassed subways. Or where he goes into autistic detail about the distinction between "Neon Genesis" and "Shinseiki" 's meanings in the title.
So he just used a bunch of imagery cuz it looked cool and wasn't wide spread in the culture. Bravo.
That's the other problem with mount stupid, reading comprehension where the quotes don't even mean what they want them to mean.
He didn't say cool. He said complicated. Why would he want it to sound complicated? Maybe there's some thought behind production design.
Nah couldn't be. It's just shit thrown at the wall. You cracked the code.
>It's just shit thrown at the wall.
It literally is. You're completely over thinking dumbass slop. If you didnt figure that out with the dumbass last episodes being a piss-storm of nonsense nothing can save you. Anno is a pseud and he knows it he never fricking shies away from it
Post more Anno quotes
this. Evangelion is the opposite of deep, yet morons think it's somehow a philosophical masterpiece.
When you're 14 and you watch it for the time you mistake angst and random symbolism for deep.
Just because everyone gets swept up in the background framing of a character drama doesn't mean there isn't genuine depth to said character drama or that it isn't enriched by said framing.
I like the stories about him working with Miyazaki on Nausicaa and how Miyazaki borrowed his Walkman without asking, used it to play a single tape over and over until it spawn out and got tangled with the insides, and then was like, "Here, this is broken, you can have it back."
the show everyone pretends to understand and like. Literally the clockwork of anime
Wrong board
Tldr, all life on earth comes from Lilith in the black moon that crashed in Japan, some ancient aliens shit to seed life. But that wasn't the only one for some reason.
By tampering with Adam in Antarctica where a second moon was located they activated a failsafe against a second creation event = Second Impact happens. (All there in the manual)
The show is about what happens afterwards, Seelee/Gehirn figure out how this shit works and want to highjack the process to remake humanity into something new and exciting. The Angels got spawned during Second Impact and are driven towards Lilith to finish the contingency and in the process destroy all life created by Lilith = everything on Earth.
>black moon that crashed in Japan
Lilith was seeded on another planet which collided with earth which was seeded with Adam, the resulting debris formed the moon that is why Rei is always on about it.
What is the failsafe? Does it just undo a creation?
Does it simply flood the land, or does it change space and time and create a new universe, in which the original creatures live? or something?
none of that makes sense, moons aren't eggs, creation event is a nonsensical term without a proper definition, much less would you expect anyone to grasp what a failsafe would be meant to do in these circumstances.
His post made perfect sense, it's not our fault you're a shitposting ESL.
none of that was esl you esl
You got it right.
None of them are properly defined.
At first they said the "Creation event" in "guided evolution" version so we got dinosaur fossils.
But later when they introduced the "reboot", suddenly the creation event becomes conjuring an organism out of no where.
Evangelion exists as a filter. Anyone who says it's deep can rightly be disregarded.
it is deep
Seems I struck a...NERV?
Evangelion exists as a filter. Anyone who says it isn't deep can rightly be disregarded.
wait so the third impact and instrumentality are separate things?
Yes. Instrumentality is the act of all Lilim (humans) forming into a single entity. The Third Impact was what happens when a Lilim encounters the Adam's Seed of Life (nuke that tries to kill all Lilim.)
As far as we can tell
Third Impact = straight up death of all humans (offspring of Lilith)
Instrumentality = all humans returning to Lilith's egg (the black moon) and merging into a single consciousness
Thid Impact is "Angels make contact with Lilith and shit's getting fricked bigly".
Instrumentality is "We can use the destructive forces released by Third Impact to advance human evolution and turn us into immortal goo-gods".
I've watched like 10 episodes of the series and there's hardly any Lilith/angels (yeah, I know the monsters ARE the angels, but at the point I've got to it doesn't seem like there's much deep mythology).
the real shit doesn't kick in until closer to episode 20
Pretty sure this and FLCL is what gave birth to my /ss/ fetish
I fricking knew it, Kaji was in the right to drop this prostitute.
kaji found out about epstein and the clintons and was killed for it.
clearly fake
duh.
you need Cinemaphile Prime to see the real one
The lore doesn't matter. The show is about the characters at its core. I learned all the lore and forgot about it because it really only matters in the context of the characters
https://gwern.net/komm-susser-tod
baste and correct
I want Misato gf
same
So what the frick was her problem?
she was in a bad movie
I completely forgot about the realistic Rei render. The rebuilds were such a fricking shitshow.
Kaworu is best husbando
I'm not an Eva head, only saw it once, but how I understand it is
>Second impact happens
>Seele knows the truth behind it, realize they can use angels to achieve their cultish goal of merging every one, making "We are all one" more material and literal
>Nerv is created by seele out of the military/defence contractors, turning cities into fortresses
>Lilith is found, I guess, or they had Lilith the whole time
>Seele wants to wake up Adam to bring about the third impact, but shinji's dad wants Adam to make a better rei clone (I think).
>Picking Shinji's dad was part of seele's plan, better to use someone with his own motivations and reasons to do the same bidding than to explain to him your cooky elite religion.
>Angels start showing up, seele and nerv knows they are prepared to fight them this time
>It's beat down time
>Karaowuwoow (gay guy) shows up, realizes humanity doesn't have Adam, thus humanity can't do something that the angels were afraid of
>Seele steps in and fricks up nerv so Shinji's dad can't do what he would like to do with Lilith
>Rei is painfully aware of her true purpose the whole show and is relieved at the end of eva bc she's finally doing it, she's finally destroying the world
>Idk how exactly but seele enacts instrumentality, saving all of humanity's selves and memories
>Shinji fricks this all up by separating humanity again with his choice, effectively erasing everyone else as humanity marches into the post apocalypse
How wrong am I?
>Seele wants to wake up Adam to bring about the third impact, but shinji's dad wants Adam to make a better rei clone (I think).
Gendo thought Instrumentality was the only way he could be with Yui again, by making everyone one being with no one being separate.
>Shinji fricks this all up by separating humanity again with his choice, effectively erasing everyone else as humanity marches into the post apocalypse
He's left with the choice of either leaving everyone merged as one or being able to bring everyone back. Initially he only brings Asuka back (whether he consciously did this or not isn't clear) but eventually he brings everyone back, leading to the Rebuild movies. No I don't care if people like them, they are canon.
I haven't seen rebuild, didn't plan on watching them, but it takes place after eva? Do shinji and asuka frick and then thousands of generations later they re emerge?
It takes place an undisclosed but presumably short time after End of Eva. Basically Shinji, who is in control of Instrumentality, brings everyone back to life but no one has any memories of what happened, and things repeat mostly the same as they did in the series. So the Third Impact of the show is the "Second Impact" of the Rebuilds, because they have no memory of there being a third.
So do people start appearing out of thin air, and shinji and asuka just get amnesia?
Maybe I gotta see rebuild
We don't know exactly how it works, we just know they all came back and no one had any memories of what happened in the series. Except for Kawaru, who seems to understand what is happening to some degree.
Was the original second impact truly a "third impact"?
its impacts all the way down
I like that
did rebuild 3 ever come out? i wasn't very stoked on it after the weirdness of rebuild 2
Rebuild 4 came out even, and now it's over.
They would kill her and basically do what Rei/Shinji did and Tang all of humanity and take over the world.
isn't the whole point that the white moon and black moon were never supposed to end up on the same planet, and that is the impetus for the angel attacks?
Thank you all anons in this thread. you brought me enternainment and joy today.
Let m,e try to contribute without checking the wikis again, bc i am too lazy:
The "creators" send two kinds of seeds into the universe to populate it: seeds of wisdom and seeds of strengh. Fprmer ones with conciousness, latter one pure will.
For whatever failed reason, both land on earth and Lilith (Wisdom) became dominant. Millenia later, humans dug out the strengh seed including Adam activating it, googledogoo-ing everything up and instanciate a fail save program to take over Lithith by Adam. This program are the Angels.
Seele knows about this fromt he dead see scrolls and reveal as much so the UN is on board building EVAs to fight upcoming Angels. Originally, they wanted to build EVAs from Lillith, were EVA 01 comes into play and Gendo's wife got sucked in. The other EVAs are from Adam. Why? Dunno.
Seele doesn't want the third impcat not to happen, they want to use it to become gods over a goo of souls. No one is seperated any longer, all is one. The seperations are the AT field. EVAs have them, but humans too.
Gendo though just want him to be goo-ed together with his wife, period.
Neither Seele nor Gendo, not the Angels are successful. Latter ones mistook Lillith for Adam, didnt know Adams seed was in the Antartic and thought its the one in the geofront.
Lastly Seele was activating the third impact and instrumentality, but they didnt took Shinji into account, who in the end had the ultimate saying due to Rei liking him, with Rei being a clone of Shinji's mum.
Shinji chooses everyone to be human again - bang - now we are in the rebuild series.
BTW if have some issues with rebuild as well, but ultimately, it was a message of making peace and becoming mature. I really liked it. But one has to see the original series first.
You can also completely forget the background and just enjoy the ride.
is rebuild worth watching? I imagine it wont be as raw or animated as well as EVA because of modernization
The animation is better in every way, and I'd argue the soundtrack is as well. I say it's worth watching at least the first two, which are more or less a condensed version of the series. Movies 3 and 4 is where it does a bit wacky but I still think they are good.
>the animation is better in every way
i highly doubt that, I grew up on 90s animes and I haven't seen anything animated better than those since then except for maybe the peak moments of a few animes like Naruto or Bleach. The cleaned up look of modern shit just doesn't look good, and the designs of the angels in the original run were alien and angelic in the truest sense of the words. Show me an angel design from rebuild that is as good as the first angel
>I haven't seen it but I'll disagree with you
Sure thing homosexual.
>The cleaned up look of modern shit just doesn't look good,
Sounds like your problem is with digital anime as opposed to older shot on film anime, not the quality of the animation work.
no the animation does look worse, just compare the bardiel sequence in both
kino
they put a lot of effort into it, so yeah its worth it.
it also is a sequel, not a reboot
NOTHING is worth watching after the series
the movies are just an excuse for anno to fix his mistakes he made with the series
End Of Eva is a masterpeice and while the show didnt need a "fixed" ending the ending EoE establishes is pretty satisfying and if it really bothers you they're both technically canon
EoE did my girl Asuka wrong.
Mass-produced EVA units shouldn't be stronger than full sync Asuka. Frick you, Anno.
He likes to torture her. To frustrate her power.
No.
Where did they get Lilith. You said Lillith is from a millennia ago.
Lilith was always underneath Japan in the Geofront, and they built Tokyo 3 over her on purpose.
evangelion is one of those ip where the fans know awhole lot more than the creator
no one knows
anyone claiming to know are lying
it's a nonsense story
is anything besides the first anime worth watching from this property?
Only the anime and the movie End of Evangelion.
>but the rebuilds
Nope. They're shit.
I would say to watch both, lets just say ff7r pulled a rebuild
how did Seele know about instrumentality
magic israeli scrolls
ah, the israelites truly are the smartest race
seele didnt know anything
nor were any employee of nerv ever scared of being captured by seele
from what i can remember, seele only showed up TWICE in the series
the mass production evas (pic related)
and when they stormed the nerv facility at the end and killed everyone
other than that, they served no threat whatsoever
>other than that, they served no threat whatsoever
They also sent a homosexual into Nerv headquarters
damn, what was it like in there?
pretty gay considering he almost ended the world right then and there
so what do the seele illuminati guys get out of everyone cronenberg merging with the giant jesus alien? Is that what they wanted
for some reason everyone becoming one conscious entity is their idea of heaven, i guess it makes sense if you fear the nothingness of death because it guarantees eternal life however bizarre it would be
every time I read a thread about Eva it makes less sense and I become more glad I didn't watch it
i don't even watch anime and i recommend the original run + end of eva. very cool sci fi concepts in there, with some great animation and very cool imagery (the lasers exploding into crosses is just awesome, i don't require an explanation for it)
I watched it for the giant robots and weird angel monsters (they are really cool and surreal) but I became a huge fan for the insanity of the story as it finally culminated in the last 4 or 5 episodes, the movies are really good too especially End of Evangelion
The og series is good after that, it became a money machine, eoe is good though.
deepfakes are actually looking more convincing now
Farmer Rei
It’s almost like there is no actual meaning and the japs just stole imagery they thought “looked cool”. That’s why watching anime is a waste of time: Whatever meaning you think you derive from it is just a delusion. The people making it are eternal 13 year olds who just put whatever shit they think “looks cool” on screen. No surprise then that 90% of anime ends up being robots punching each other, regardless of whatever seemingly intriguing premise they use to lure gaijins in.
how soon will anno announce that hes making another eva movie
I haven't seen this slop but it makes perfect sense when I read the wiki
>ancient aliens have either intelligent populous life seed (humans) or humongous titanic life seed (angels) and only one should take root in a planet
>adam got here first
>lilith arrived later
>lilith deactivation process failed so adam took the fall despite arriving first
>thousand years later human find adam, wake him up and half the world is gone
>angels born out of adam (somehow? how the frick did this happen and why did they wait millions of years) try to reach their father or what they think its adam to wipe humanity and take the planet that is rightfully theirs
>the illuminati found the alien blueprints and want to make humanity reach the next step in evolution and they need someone to be the host and intiate human liquidification but the angels need to be defeated first
>gendo has their own waifu version of human fusion
>liliths body, pilots mothers and cloning is all involved
>battling every angel slop and pseudo philosophy (this is the part that you see in the show I guess and manages to confuse everyone)
>shinji manages to hijak the entire process cucking the illuminati and his father and then rejects this process reversing it at the end
I honestly don't get what people don't understand about this? It all seems pretty straightforward
Holy shit this is a new low for autistic homosexuals here.
>no I didnt watch it but I read the wiki
Im at a loss for words how much of a total loser you are.
I have no interest in watching giant robot fight giant aliens but watching so many people be completely bewildered at something, most other anime that is famous for being deep doesn't have this many morons trying to make sense out of it. So I had to check the wiki.
Compare it with Lain where no matter how much you read it you won't be able to make sense out of it without watching the show reading about Evangelion was diasppointing.
>I have no interest in watching giant robot fight giant aliens
>but I will read about it and spill out my shit opinion
The audacity for you to call anyone a moron and be haughty about this. Fricking audacity.
Nothing I read was about robots fighting aliens, see how I bypassed the entire thing that didn't interest me
lmao you're actually autistic I get it now. And one of those uppity chrischan type who thinks theyre above everyone else
You can't deny it. The show is 30 years old. If you want new people to talk about it you need the wiki readers
Why did seele want everyone to be goo?
I understand that they wanted humanity to merge as one, but did it have to be goo? What kind of life is goo.
They would be gods. Live forever. As goo, all people are one. No one is unhappy, afraid, lonely, etc. All Anti-Terror fields are gone and people are all together as one being. Shinji is the one who decides he doesn't like that and that living separately is still worthwhile even if it means people having those negative emotions and getting hurt, so he allows people to leave the goo again if they want.
What happened at the end of rebuild?
Multiverse.
Shinji stopped his dad's version of Instrumentslity. Humans, and Asuka and her clones, get to live in the post-impact world, free of monsters or SEELE. (Misato and other classmates died before Jesus so they don't get to live)
For his service Shingji gets to choose to live in another timeline where there were never any aliens. No mysterious base in Antarctica. No Asuka. Nothing suspicious. A couple just look melanin-deficient.
I LOVE ASUKA
patrician
I'm disappointed that I googled this and found nothing so I had to use inferior AI.
Yeah that Adam/Lilith thing sometimes melts like marshmallow. Very true.
>Watch Eva
>Also watch EOE
>Also watch the films
>Also spend 2 nights reading the wiki
>Still barely understand the world and story
Why is it such a cluster frick of ideas? I know they run out of money but the problems are there by a quarter of the way through the run
it should be painfully obvious to you by now that any visual art form is going to care more about style than substance. Hell when has a music video had a decent plot? Manga artists are going to pick elements that make the best visuals, then do their best filling in on what the substance is. At least the Attack on Titan author did a good job of this unlike hacks like mystery box JJ Abrams.
But Eva barely looks good that's the problem
Besides budget problem, the director had to decide whether to spend the movie screen time on his Shinji issue or on the alien conspiracy.
They have decided years ago that people can read the lore from the merch and devoted the movie on the Shinji issue.
Nadia was a great show. Eva lost that balance.
They never planned the story out in the beginning and just made shit up as they went along.
So it's just a big clusterfrick where some nothing throw-away line suddenly becomes crucial to the plot.
Nobody ever showed Shinji even a little fricking bit of love and concern and you expect him to be happy about getting packed into a sardine can to fight diamonds and circles, frickin all kinds of shapes?
Why didn't the eagles simply drop Lilith into Mt. Doom?
Are the rebuild movies worth watching if I only watched the original and EoE?
if youre interested go ahead, but theyre not as good. theyre like the star wars prequels and sequels at the same time
It works like this.
Ayy Lmaos send god like organisms designed to seed planets in giant "moon" ships equipped with fail safe devices known as "Spears of Longinus"
Two hit earth, Adam and Lilith. Each are designed to release an "Anti-AT field" which reduces organic life forms into primordial ooze.
To prevent an endless "lock up" loop of a god nuking all life on the planet every time it encountered the others "children" the Spears would automatically incapacitate one of them.
Lilith's spear was destroyed in its collision, causing Adam's spear to shut him down. Lilith-based life took over.
Humans experimenting with Adam accidentally caused it to produce a weak anti-AT field which caused a massive hit to all life on earth (second impact).
Adam and Lilith are designed with two separate philosophies for the life they create.
Lilith creates life as we understand it on earth, driven by natural selection. Adam instead produces self sustaining super organisms (angels) that have no need to reproduce to adapt.
With Lilith and Adam both active on earth, the two descending forms of life were at odds. The Angels wanted to reclaim Adam to prevent an instrumentality event. Seele's goal was to basically cause instrumentality but then lock it at a certain phase so life would become a singularity.
The angels have no interest in Lilith, them touching Lilith would cause an anti-AT field event just as humans touching Adam did, hence Kawuro basically giving up.
If humanity handed over Adam would the angels have just fricked off to another planet or something? They don't seem like the bad guys in this situation.
The angels seemed to want to eliminate humans. Even the most sympathetic of them seemed to have no free will to not go with the plan.
i fricking love this scene and how long it lingered
>watch the Netflix dub
>Nerv = 'Nairve'
>Seele = seal
easily 10x less cool
I remember the effort i made when i was a teen to comprehend the mess that is evangelion's story, the funny thing is that nowadays i don't remember absolutely anything about it
What a shitshow